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MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/10 20:16:44


Post by: Buzzsaw


Beasts of War has posted information that Mantic's line of Orcs has gone on pre-sale;



They have links to Wayland Games' pre-order page; they're offering two sets, 30 Orcs for $40 (before discount), and 15 Orcs for $22.50 (again, before discount). Both boxes include command.

That said, I haven't found anything on Mantic's site about this, so I'm not sure how far out all this is, what else is in the range, etc. If anyone else has some info I'd love to hear it.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 00:00:07


Post by: rich1231


We were given codes, preview information and consent to launch. You might notice that we at Wayland have worked at promoting Mantic since they launched. So we only tend to reveal informaiton when we have the "go" from theose guys up north.

The Orc greens look fab as does some other stuff.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 02:00:22


Post by: AlexHolker


There are apparently two sprues: one of three Orcs in light armour, and one of two Orcs in heavy armour, which are compatible.

Personally, I'm just waiting for the humans.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 02:44:28


Post by: Scottywan82


I LOVE that mantic does multi-part plastics. I just wish they'd branch into sci-fi sets. I would love to see some competition for 40K figures done multi-part plastic.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 02:47:55


Post by: AlexHolker


Scottywan82 wrote:I just wish they'd branch into sci-fi sets.

They're apparently planning on doing so, with the first releases somewhere from August onwards. I am also waiting for those humans.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 03:59:35


Post by: Scottywan82


Humans, aliens... I don't care, I just can't wait to see them. I want to see something new and fun to assemble not from GW, but nothing beats mutli-part plastics. I just get annoyed with metals now and all their crappy static positions.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 04:27:42


Post by: yakface



I'm also very excited to see Mantic's Sci-fi line.


On the Orcs, I'm a little surprised to see that first mock-up. From the design art I thought they were going to go for a much more bestial looking Orc...which is highlighted in the drawing by the very small distance between its snout and its mouth.

But that first model pic shows a much more 'GW' style Orc face, where there is a ton of space on its face between its nose and its mouth. I'm actually a bit disappointed by this, as I was hoping to see a bit of a different perspective on the Orc, but perhaps when we see the entire model the uniqueness of the Mantic Orc will be more apparent.



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 04:42:55


Post by: Mad4Minis


Scottywan82 wrote:Humans, aliens... I don't care, I just can't wait to see them. I want to see something new and fun to assemble not from GW, but nothing beats mutli-part plastics. I just get annoyed with metals now and all their crappy static positions.



Agreed. Also a paint to work with if you want to convert/customize something.

So far Im loving Mantics work. Im not looking to get into any more games that need full armies, but I will be picking up a copy of their board game when it comes out.

Who knows, maybe a couple of those heavy armor Orcs just to build and paint.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 05:34:28


Post by: kenshin620


Hmm would of liked it better if we had some new pics. The orc fig is at least half a year or so old


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 07:36:12


Post by: Ouze


I'm going to want to see a lot more before I get stoked. For all I know they will be 30 unipose Orks. I'm cautiously optimistic, but that's my default policy.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 08:16:21


Post by: Buzzsaw


yakface wrote:On the Orcs, I'm a little surprised to see that first mock-up. From the design art I thought they were going to go for a much more bestial looking Orc...which is highlighted in the drawing by the very small distance between its snout and its mouth.

But that first model pic shows a much more 'GW' style Orc face, where there is a ton of space on its face between its nose and its mouth. I'm actually a bit disappointed by this, as I was hoping to see a bit of a different perspective on the Orc, but perhaps when we see the entire model the uniqueness of the Mantic Orc will be more apparent.


Yeah, personally I'm hoping for a line much more in keeping with the illustration; I've little interest in GW style "wacky" orcs. But I'm willing to wait and see.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/02/13 08:57:25


Post by: Mr. Burning


Buzzsaw wrote:
yakface wrote:On the Orcs, I'm a little surprised to see that first mock-up. From the design art I thought they were going to go for a much more bestial looking Orc...which is highlighted in the drawing by the very small distance between its snout and its mouth.

But that first model pic shows a much more 'GW' style Orc face, where there is a ton of space on its face between its nose and its mouth. I'm actually a bit disappointed by this, as I was hoping to see a bit of a different perspective on the Orc, but perhaps when we see the entire model the uniqueness of the Mantic Orc will be more apparent.


Yeah, personally I'm hoping for a line much more in keeping with the illustration; I've little interest in GW style "wacky" orcs. But I'm willing to wait and see.


+1

I want to see something different, more bestial. Brian nelson did a lot of good with Gw's Orc and Ork appearance and I hope Mantics sculpters make something that is really identifiable as a 'Mantic Orc'.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/02 17:13:29


Post by: Buzzsaw


Beasts of War has added to their coverage of the Mantic Orcs by posting painted versions of the 3-ups.

Seeing them painted, they do seem less cartoon-y then GW's Orcs, but a far cry from the "realism" in the LotR orcs.

We've still only seen a very small number of the sculpts, so it's hard to get a real feel for the line as a whole so far.




MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/02 17:22:53


Post by: The Dwarf Wolf


Nice... i like Mantic a lot, i kind see them as the "resistance". Im anxious about this sci fi range, and i expect they come in a "new but friendly" style...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/02 17:28:02


Post by: RiTides


Mantic is tempting me so much... I think if I eventually do give in to the temptation to start another warhammer army, it will be via Mantic's models. Either VC, TK, or O&G...

Also have to second (third/fourth?) the sentiment above, that I hope they are more bestial looking than GW's orcs (as the artwork looks to be, but not so much the model). This is a wide open niche, as GW's are so comical... the black orcs, and to a lesser extent the new savage orcs, are the most appealing to me as they actually looking intimidating. Especially for fantasy, the comedic orc is not welcome...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/02 19:38:23


Post by: DefQonOrk


Reckless


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/02 21:14:37


Post by: porkuslime


Looks a bit top heavy.. and if he is as large as implied, will he be able to fit on mantic's 20mm square base or will they have a new base size?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/02 21:43:58


Post by: Ozymandias


With GW's stealth price increase on the regular Orc Boyz, I can see these being really popular as an alternative.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/02 21:45:07


Post by: AlexHolker


porkuslime wrote:Looks a bit top heavy.. and if he is as large as implied, will he be able to fit on mantic's 20mm square base or will they have a new base size?

The Orcs are on 25mm bases.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/02 21:52:12


Post by: Da Boss


Glad to hear that- if any come with spears, I'll be getting some to paint up.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/03 13:27:51


Post by: SkaerKrow


Thanks to several Skull Pass and bargain buys, I have the groundwork for a good Orc and Goblin army sitting in my miniatures closet right now. All I'm really missing are a nice chunk of Orcs to go with the Night Goblins, Black Orcs, Spider Riders and Boar Boyz that I already have. Though I wasn't planning on spending any more money on WHFB, Mantic's Orcs may just be enough to convince me to finish off the army.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/03 13:50:19


Post by: Pacific


I'm not completely sold on the new GW savage Orcs. I kind of liked the older more comedic range, before the game and GW took itself too seriously (applies to 40k also).

And you could argue that if Mantic made some more 'comedic' orcs they would be at contrast to what GW is currently producing. The new Savage orcs look so full of rage, that it looks like their mouths will turn around and eat their own head, then repeat it over and over again until it resembles some kind of optical illusion.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/03 17:10:49


Post by: RiTides


Despite their "rage", the savage orcs are still somewhat comical... or maybe cartoony is the right word.

A more "bestial" look would be awesome, to me!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/03 19:26:06


Post by: Dez


I didn't like the 3-up, until I saw it painted! I was considering trading off my OnG, but may reconsider once I get a better gander at the Mantic Orcs


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/03 19:44:36


Post by: Some_Call_Me_Tim?


Not to into the 3-up. His eyes really pop out of his head, and he looks like he has chronic back pain or something. Still, the "snotling" is pretty cool!

_Tim?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/03 21:42:26


Post by: Cosmic


I really like it!

EDIT: Just had a crazy moment.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 18:40:24


Post by: Buzzsaw


More information posted at the indispensable Beasts of War (really, how did I not know about these guys for so long, they're great!);








Many more images at BoW.

I'm not sure what to say, these new orcs looks much more like the savage-style that I was expecting... maybe the angle is just off on the earlier pics?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 18:43:47


Post by: agnosto


Wow, that's some nice work.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 18:54:11


Post by: Buzzsaw


Oooh, and one more thing I just noticed, nosing around BoW;



This "Sneaky Goblin" is a limited edition that comes from Mantic if you order enough to qualify for free shipping.

Me likey.

Damn Mantic, they may get me to buy that damned hardcover O&G book! Blarg!

Edit: According to the front page on Mantic's site, the mini is free with free postage, which is 25 pounds, 35 Euro or $50.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 19:10:54


Post by: AgeOfEgos


Strange----the original Orc displayed looks Games Workshop-----while the boar rider looks like the concept art.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 19:17:47


Post by: Slinky


Oooh, that's luvverly!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 19:53:06


Post by: Buzzsaw


AgeOfEgos wrote:Strange----the original Orc displayed looks Games Workshop-----while the boar rider looks like the concept art.


Some of the pics are making me more confused... check out this standard bearer; he's clearly an on-foot model.



That aesthetic looks much closer to the concept art then GW's style. If it's derivative of anything, it looks more like the huge shouldered Orc of WoW. Definitely more my style then the GW style, but I want to see more before I'm in the buying state of mind.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 19:55:09


Post by: RiTides


I love the standard bearer. I really hope that's the style of most of 'em!

Also, no matter where I look I don't see a boar rider, and it's also not listed as part of the large army deal that the standard bearer pic is shown at...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 20:11:18


Post by: Buzzsaw


RiTides wrote:I love the standard bearer. I really hope that's the style of most of 'em!

Also, no matter where I look I don't see a boar rider, and it's also not listed as part of the large army deal that the standard bearer pic is shown at...


For the pictures of the boar riders check out the link to Beasts of War (that first pick I posted is a close-up of the boar rider, I didn't want to just copy all of their pictures over here).



Seriously though, give the good folks at BoW a click, they do good stuff.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 20:22:32


Post by: KingCracker


Very cool stuff, I get more and more interested in playing their stuff. Now that their Orcs are looking pretty nice....hmmm.....I may jump into that soonish. I also think their prices are nice. Thats a gak load of minis for the price they ask. What would a similar mini count fantasy army cost?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 20:29:27


Post by: NAVARRO


Good stuff! Is there any plans for goblins or its just orcs?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 21:09:45


Post by: Mad4Minis


RiTides wrote:I love the standard bearer. I really hope that's the style of most of 'em!


Agreed. Like its been mentioned its got a WoW style to it, and I like it. If thats what the armored Orcs are going to look like I may have to grab a couple/box when they come out.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/17 21:24:42


Post by: Buzzsaw


KingCracker wrote:Very cool stuff, I get more and more interested in playing their stuff. Now that their Orcs are looking pretty nice....hmmm.....I may jump into that soonish. I also think their prices are nice. Thats a gak load of minis for the price they ask. What would a similar mini count fantasy army cost?


Difficult to say, since I'm not sure what you would compare exactly to. The best deal (which is always the largest) from Mantic is the Orc Warrior Bundle (102 Orcs for $129.99/75 pounds).

Below that, Orc warriors are offered in 30 ($45) and 15 ($25) orc bundles.

What one compares that to from GW is open to debate;

Orc and Goblins Brigade; 109 miniatures, but these are all sorts of things (38 Boys, 10 black orcs, 40 night goblins, 10 goblin spider riders, 10 wolf riders and a boar chariot) in this kit, $190. I dunno if that's a fair comparison, since I have no idea if that's a useful selection of models. Certainly it's not if you're looking to make a black orc army.

If you want to compare to just orcs, then;

100 savage orcs: (10 10-man boxes at $29.99) $299.90.

100 orc boys: (10 10-man boxes at $29.99) $299.90.

100 Black Orcs: (10 10-man boxes at $33.00) $330.00.

So, the Mantic bundle is much, much cheaper then the GW equivalent, but my guess, looking at the other, established, Mantic armies is that there will be different deals coming out with more diversity of models.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/18 16:50:32


Post by: Scottywan82


AgeOfEgos wrote:Strange----the original Orc displayed looks Games Workshop-----while the boar rider looks like the concept art.


Yeah, hopefully we'll see more of that! I love their concept art Orcs. They look amazing. Wish the infantry had more of that aesthetic.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/18 18:23:44


Post by: Some_Call_Me_Tim?


Scottywan82 wrote:
AgeOfEgos wrote:Strange----the original Orc displayed looks Games Workshop-----while the boar rider looks like the concept art.


Yeah, hopefully we'll see more of that! I love their concept art Orcs. They look amazing. Wish the infantry had more of that aesthetic.


Agreed, their basic Orc infantry is...not so good. The shield shape is distracting, and the teeth look a bit wimpy. Still, that BSB is amazing!

_Tim?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/18 18:38:17


Post by: Scottywan82


No lie! On all counts, sadly. I was one unhappy guy at seeing their initial plastics release. These new ones look like the old Rackham Orcs I loved to much.

Are those boar riders plastic? Because that would be the hotness.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/18 19:07:17


Post by: filbert


KingCracker wrote:Very cool stuff, I get more and more interested in playing their stuff. Now that their Orcs are looking pretty nice....hmmm.....I may jump into that soonish. I also think their prices are nice. Thats a gak load of minis for the price they ask. What would a similar mini count fantasy army cost?


I have both their Undead and Elf bundles which cost £99 each and allow me to make around a 2500 point army without the need for anything else. I will be ordering the Dwarf and Chaos Dwarf bundles at the end of this month - these are more expensive (£150 each) but are larger.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/18 21:17:46


Post by: Kroothawk


Buzzsaw wrote:
This "Sneaky Goblin" is a limited edition that comes from Mantic if you order enough to qualify for free shipping.

Just to avoid confusion:
This Goblin is not part of the Ork range but of the Abyssal Dwarfs, as a nod to the sneaky gits of Chaos Dwarves. Was planned as part of the HQ retinue.



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/18 21:53:12


Post by: Buzzsaw


Kroothawk wrote:Just to avoid confusion:
This Goblin is not part of the Ork range but of the Abyssal Dwarfs, as a nod to the sneaky gits of Chaos Dwarves. Was planned as part of the HQ retinue.



Alas, now I'm more confused! Is the Sneaky Goblin available in some way other then the free shipping thing? Hmm... must dig through their website...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/18 22:38:40


Post by: Kroothawk


Nope.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 16:39:31


Post by: Scottywan82


Wow, MORE awesome concept art! Can we get those figures in sweet, sweet plastic?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 16:49:25


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


The Standard Bearer and the Gore Rider are sculpted by forgot his first name Mcvey (of Studio McVey) which explains the sheer awesomenessness.





MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 17:27:59


Post by: filbert


Mike McVey?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 17:56:06


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


That's the chap
thanks Filbert

A jolly fine sculpter imho


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 18:05:51


Post by: CT GAMER


yakface wrote:
I'm also very excited to see Mantic's Sci-fi line.


On the Orcs, I'm a little surprised to see that first mock-up. From the design art I thought they were going to go for a much more bestial looking Orc...which is highlighted in the drawing by the very small distance between its snout and its mouth.

But that first model pic shows a much more 'GW' style Orc face, where there is a ton of space on its face between its nose and its mouth. I'm actually a bit disappointed by this, as I was hoping to see a bit of a different perspective on the Orc, but perhaps when we see the entire model the uniqueness of the Mantic Orc will be more apparent.



I am liking the similarity to GW ork facical characteristics as I am excited to have a source for new head bits I can use with my 40K orks...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 18:49:16


Post by: Da Boss


The orcs look good, but not a big fan of the boars. I'd have prefered a more original mount, for one, and they look too similar to the older, crappier, GW boars.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 18:53:48


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


They are GORES not boars

I like wild boars splendid beast, so I don't mind tbh.
It just looks a tad small for the hulking great orc on his back poor porcer


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 18:59:45


Post by: Scottywan82


Da Boss wrote:The orcs look good, but not a big fan of the boars. I'd have prefered a more original mount, for one, and they look too similar to the older, crappier, GW boars.


See, this is exactly why I LIKE the boars. The new GW ones look awful, and the old ones looked solid and nasty. Go figure.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 19:04:56


Post by: CT GAMER


Scottywan82 wrote:
Da Boss wrote:The orcs look good, but not a big fan of the boars. I'd have prefered a more original mount, for one, and they look too similar to the older, crappier, GW boars.


See, this is exactly why I LIKE the boars. The new GW ones look awful, and the old ones looked solid and nasty. Go figure.


+1.

The new "pumba" style boars are silly.

I like the armour detailing on these...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 19:06:31


Post by: Scottywan82


I just want to see more of the Orc range for Mantic. So far BSB and hero look the sex. The warrior looks the blah.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 19:39:52


Post by: Da Boss


I reckon the GW boars suffer from "over highlighted skin itus" like the minos and stuff.
Agreed on wanting to see more! What options they have, especially!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 21:20:47


Post by: Cosmic


yakface wrote:
I'm also very excited to see Mantic's Sci-fi line.


I am very intrigued also. I was speaking to one of the dudes from Mantic and he said that the first two Sci-fi races were going to be Orcs and Dwarfs. Many people - apparently - have remarked upon the Dwarfs' rifles resemblence to Lasguns. I also asked whether or not the Dwarfs would get any tanks and such. He said he couldn't say. Expect to see ALLOT from Mantic this year!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I kind of think that their current Elves look slightly sci-fi too. I'm really hoping for Space Undead!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 21:27:17


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


I am really liking the boars, provided there is some variety and poseability with them.

They remind me of the boar mounts from WAR which are far better than the GW ones.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 21:55:59


Post by: Kanluwen


You're likely to be SOL on the poseability and variety, MGS.

Mantic's stuff is nice, but it's pretty limited pose-wise.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 21:57:43


Post by: RiTides


I will likely be purchasing one of the large Orc deals, but not pre-ordering it... have to get the funds together first. I agree about the boars especially looking nice... looking forward to seeing the armored orcs!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/19 22:27:40


Post by: Griever


AgeOfEgos wrote:Strange----the original Orc displayed looks Games Workshop-----while the boar rider looks like the concept art.


My thoughts exactly. I hope it's more like the latter. GW's Orcs (and the Mantic 3up) are lame IMO, they look cartoonish and stupid. The guy on the boar however looks fantastic.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/20 02:04:24


Post by: AlexHolker


Cosmic wrote:I am very intrigued also. I was speaking to one of the dudes from Mantic and he said that the first two Sci-fi races were going to be Orcs and Dwarfs. Many people - apparently - have remarked upon the Dwarfs' rifles resemblence to Lasguns. I also asked whether or not the Dwarfs would get any tanks and such. He said he couldn't say. Expect to see ALLOT from Mantic this year!

I kind of think that their current Elves look slightly sci-fi too. I'm really hoping for Space Undead!

I've heard that rumour too, but I really hope you're wrong. Not only because I'm still not interested in buying Orcs or Dwarves or any of the other races Mantic has made to date, but also because the use of plastic/metal hybrids instead of new kits will make the new game twice as expensive.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/20 02:12:39


Post by: Griever


Why would anyone preorder that army deal when you can't even see what the "40 plastic armoured orcs" are?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/20 02:47:34


Post by: Grot 6


I want to see some more and a couple of gunlines before I call it.

You got those Orks with Spears? Axes? Whats thier weapons loadout?

The Ork 3 up was nice, but how does that models appearence compare to the rest of the army? Are they all that same look? How do the armored ones look in a unit?

No comments on THAT snotling, but how about bringing back the one thats flipping you off. I always liked that one the best.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/20 05:04:33


Post by: kenshin620


Griever wrote:Why would anyone preorder that army deal when you can't even see what the "40 plastic armoured orcs" are?


Agreed

Mantic recently has been a bit spotty with their reveals. It took at least x2 weeks before the abyssal dwarves were fully revealed and yet still took preorders when we only had x2 painted figs up and concept art


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/20 05:09:12


Post by: Cryonicleech


Seriously waiting for the rest of the models... sigh. I mean, 1 sculpt is cool, but I'd really like to see some units.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/21 12:45:36


Post by: SkaerKrow


I'm hoping that they'll be able to be built with more than just shields. If I can build these guys up with additional hand weapons then my Orc army will be set. If not...well, I'll have to fiddle around with some conversions before I know if they're right for me.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/21 13:26:07


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I do hope Mantic's sci-fi range includes human sci-fi civilians. Good non-medieval civilian models are like diamond dust...


MeanGreenStompa wrote:I am really liking the boars, provided there is some variety and poseability with them.

They remind me of the boar mounts from WAR which are far better than the GW ones.


Exactly what I was thinking. That War Boar rider, and his armour and everything, reminds me a lot of the brutal looking Orks from the Warhammer Online high-res movies they made to advertise the game.

And that's a good thing.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/21 13:30:39


Post by: filbert


Loving the Mantic Orcs personally, both the preview sculpts and the stuff that is going into production. I couldn't care less if there is slightly less room for pose dynamics than GW stuff - the price of the Mantic stuff more than compensates for that.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/21 19:22:05


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Free delivery + 15% 0ff orders over £50 until tomorrow night
the deal inclused some freebies too
http://www.manticgames.com/home.html

As you may already know we are already giving away a free Goblin Sneek with every order over carriage paid – and a bagful of hobby extras for orders over £50 (including Paint brushes, army painter flock and clippers).

But that simply isn’t enough to celebrate a landmark birthday – so as a big birthday bonanza – I thought we would plunder the special treat box!

So until midnight tomorrow we are giving you 15% off* everything on our website! We mean everything, nothing is excluded. So head over to our webstore now!




MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/21 19:53:15


Post by: Da Boss


Damn my empty wallet! All that drinking over paddies day has left me unable to take advantage of this sweet, sweet deal.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/21 19:54:14


Post by: agnosto


This sucks. If they would just make an army that I give a damn about.....


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/21 20:01:56


Post by: Da Boss


I suppose 2000 points of Chaos Dwarves is your limit, then?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/21 20:18:21


Post by: agnosto


Da Boss wrote:I suppose 2000 points of Chaos Dwarves is your limit, then?


Not really but the new ones wouldn't really match the old ones too welll.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/26 02:02:01


Post by: Buzzsaw


Whoa, with the excitement of Infinity week I totally missed this gem; Beasts of War has a video of the Orc sprue! Things are much more advanced then I had thought.




These sprues are apparently newer then-new, just out of the machines on the test runes, to hear Andy say it in the video.

This production run seems (to me, anyway, in the very limited view from the video) more like the Orcs that we first saw, closer to the GW style then the later boar rider Orcs.

Interesting...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/26 02:22:11


Post by: RiTides


It may look more like the first, but it still looks good.

Is the army deal such a good buy simply because it's a pre-order? I'm looking at their abyssal dwarf stuff, and it seems like the orcs are a better deal... over 100 for 75 pounds!

I got the Mantic email with the Berserkers for the Abyssal Dwarfs (probably one of the next things in line after the Orcs, due out at the end of May with a limited number available in army deals) and am now being tempted in that direction.

Either way, my next army will be Mantic, though!

(Edit: I may have answered my own question about the costs, it looks like Abyssal dwarfs are plastic/metal hybrids, so I imagine that ups the cost a bit over just plastic)


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/26 04:19:24


Post by: AlexHolker


RiTides wrote:(Edit: I may have answered my own question about the costs, it looks like Abyssal dwarfs are plastic/metal hybrids, so I imagine that ups the cost a bit over just plastic)

That's correct. Mantic's plastic/metal hybrids are about the same price as GW's plastics, for both 10-man boxes and Battalions, while their plastics are half that price.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/26 04:24:19


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Why did they do that anyone please?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/26 04:54:30


Post by: warpcrafter


How do the Mantic Orcs compare size-wise to GW Orcs?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/26 11:23:08


Post by: Da Boss


Disappointed that there's no spears or additional handweapons on the sprues, but they are looking good.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/26 13:58:05


Post by: winnertakesall


They do look nice, I think I may pick up a sprue to have a look.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/26 14:39:52


Post by: kenshin620


They look interesting although there are even less bodies than normal so things are going to look samey after a while. time will tell if they'll hit or miss. These will appeal a lot more than wf ones though

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Why did they do that anyone please?


The abyssal dwarves? I guess becuase for a infamous army in warhammer, its a niche of a niche and they dont think its too profitable to make a whole new plastic line.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/03/26 15:30:45


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Thanks Kenshin
Guess that is correct, though I don't follow the logic if it is the reason.

ie the manufacturers' logic not yours

Don't wish to take the thread OT with that discussion again so will leave it at that
Thanks again


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 05:32:57


Post by: Buzzsaw


More information on the boar... err, I mean, Gore riders (Mantic Blog, Beasts of War);


I have to admit, I am puzzled at the different images we're seeing...

Some (like what now appear to be the command sprues) look great to me, while this... ehhh.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 06:03:46


Post by: AlexHolker


Buzzsaw wrote:I have to admit, I am puzzled at the different images we're seeing...

Some (like what now appear to be the command sprues) look great to me, while this... ehhh.

I feel the same way. The protruding upper jaw makes the face look more like a "Green Peril" caricature of an orc than it does an orc.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 09:51:15


Post by: Scottywan82


Yeah, what the heck? Why does the hero ROCK while this one sucks hard?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 10:10:06


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


May be way off beam, but have a feeling that the hero was sculpted by Mike McVey, whereas the rank and file are sculpted by A.N. Other.

This doesn't look like a Mcvey piece to me. But stand to be corrected.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 10:26:53


Post by: Scottywan82


Maybe, but even then, sad that they didn't get it all looking consistently awesome.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 12:43:09


Post by: RiTides


Ah, I echo the feelings of the above... will reserve judgement until seeing them come out, but the heroes look SO much better :-/


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 12:45:44


Post by: kenshin620


Ah yes, the reoccurring problem of mantic has arisen of having their new lines being hit and miss


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 13:04:30


Post by: agnosto


The terror of the fantasy world, the wasp-ork....look at the tiny waist on that thing.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 18:03:18


Post by: Buzzsaw


From Beasts of War today, the Kings of War army list for Orcs!


I haven't really paid attention to the overall Kings of War rules system, so I have no idea how to evaluate this. I'm personally waiting to see all of the models before making any decisions on these Orcs.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 18:18:00


Post by: Lukez


Personally I'm disappointed in the Mantic orcs, they are really lacking in the (sculpt)quality the rest of the range has.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 18:33:34


Post by: Buzzsaw


From the Mantic blog;
Goblin monster handlers, and the corresponding monsters...










MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 18:35:08


Post by: Da Boss


That, I could be convinced to buy!

Edit: Looking at the rules, the Orcs seem to be straight up brutal. They deal heavy damage but don't have especially high nerve or scads of special rules. They also look slightly limited in what they can take, at present.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 18:35:13


Post by: NAVARRO


BLOODY GREAT!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 19:12:38


Post by: Scottywan82


And then again with something awesome! What the hell, Mantic!?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 19:25:48


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


The Goblins and monster!


superduper
those monsters eat the DE beastie woozies for breakfast!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/05 20:22:53


Post by: notprop


Not too keen on the Orc, was hoping for better when I saw the original green.

The Boar rider from what I can see looks much more the real deal.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/06 09:35:26


Post by: sonofruss


I already have fen wolves and then someone puts out this, not fair not fair at all.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/06 10:11:05


Post by: greenskin lynn


i rather like the goblins and heros..but the normal orcs...i hate the faces


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/06 13:06:46


Post by: notprop


Yeah, they look like they are gurning.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 00:37:11


Post by: kenshin620


Some newish pics from TMP

command frame and assemble orc ax





MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 00:45:56


Post by: Scottywan82


Well... Helmeted is an improvement at least.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 01:03:24


Post by: kenshin620


Bah, I looked on mantics site, got the frames wrong. The thing I posted was the ax sprue. This is the command



another helmeted orc



This makes me wonder what they'll do with their supposed "Armored Orcs" These ones are already pretty well armored. Still I'm not going to like that we only have 3 poses. I'll reserve final judgment until we see the full range


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 02:48:42


Post by: Cyporiean


Note: The bases on the Orcs are wrong, they should be on bigger bases. I kinda lost the ones Ronnie gave me...




MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 11:49:20


Post by: kenshin620


I just woke up so my eyes could be deceiving me but is that some kind of bent top hat the middle one is wearing? silly


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 13:23:48


Post by: Dez


Scale pics! Thanks Cyporiean, any chance you have a regular Fantasy Orc Boy or prehaps a Goblin to take a scale shot with?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 16:26:14


Post by: Da Boss


Yeah I'm not liking that top hat look. No. Do not want.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 16:34:07


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


[mechicxanaccent]Eeef you no like heem een a top haat then you can alwayz geev heem a sombrero![/mechicxanaccent]



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 16:34:30


Post by: TheHammer


They look like they are somewhere in between the goofy GW Orc and the more "evil" looking LotR Orc. I like both of those types but the in between look just doesn't work for me.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 17:06:19


Post by: Cyporiean


Dez wrote:Scale pics! Thanks Cyporiean, any chance you have a regular Fantasy Orc Boy or prehaps a Goblin to take a scale shot with?


sure, just gotta dig out them out. I'll try to get them posted today.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/07 20:41:01


Post by: SkaerKrow


If they had more weapon options (two choppas... ) I would buy these in a heartbeat. As it stands, they're nice, but not a priority at the moment.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/09 13:54:01


Post by: Cosmic


Here we go:



I'm biased in this case because I love what Mantic does. However, to expand upon this, I think they've really gone for their own look, and I respect them for this. The top hat guy looks much better painted, and the bigger bases are very intimidating. Let's hear some opinions, and please give reasons to justify them.


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MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/09 14:29:03


Post by: AlexHolker


The orc with a top hat does not look like a unit champion. He looks like an orc that got hit in the head one too many times that the other orcs keep around to laugh at. The long upper jaw, weak lower jaw, horned top hat and gak-eating grin ensures that this is not an orc you can take seriously.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/09 14:33:36


Post by: Cosmic


AlexHolker wrote:The orc with a top hat does not look like a unit champion. He looks like an orc that got hit in the head one too many times that the other orcs keep around to laugh at. The long upper jaw, weak lower jaw, horned top hat and gak-eating grin ensures that this is not an orc you can take seriously.


That made me laugh. He kind of reminds me of a crook or something that hangs around in dark places. Quite sinister in that sense. Here's better pictures.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/09 14:38:08


Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle


Orc Honest John
Hi diddle dee an orcish life for me!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/12 19:28:14


Post by: Cosmic


We know Orc week has officially ended, but we thought a sneak peek at the Greatax sprue was too good not to share with you all!



As you can see, this is a planning layout shot, the sprue is already with Renedra and we will get the plastics back soon, which is exciting.

The Greatax have been designed so that they are fully interchangeable with the Ax Orcs, so you can mix and match to add that variety to your hordes.

Both the Greatax and Ax Orc sets are great value base kits, we intend to continue to build upon these solid foundations to provide new units and much more variety. We already have a number of projects being worked on, which at the moment already sees at least 6 new unique heads included as well as a significant number of other components.

If you want more details on these you will need to keep checking this blog!


I didn't want to start off another Mantic thread, so I'll put it here. This is really good news, and for those who were not content with the number of heads on the sprues: see above. My guesses are that the "six heads" will be for the "Morax" orcs troops, so that means that we'll get a box set for Ax, Greatax and Morax Orcs! If it is true of course. Unless we get a box set for the Gore riders. They could be resin-plastic though. Anyway, this is News and Rumours so, keep checking the Mantic Blog for more!

(Edited to fix the linky)


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/12 19:41:28


Post by: Worglock


Meh. Not interested. They look like a cross between GW Orcs and Warcraft Orcs, which were just lifted from GW anyway.

Who writes the Mantic rules again?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/12 20:49:19


Post by: Cosmic


Worglock wrote:Who writes the Mantic rules again?


Alessio Cavatore!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/14 15:07:32


Post by: ronin1973


Buzzsaw wrote:From the Mantic blog;
Goblin monster handlers, and the corresponding monsters...


now these are very nice Mantic

the orcs look so much better in a unit. nice one too!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/14 21:30:44


Post by: Drake_Marcus


Gross. The only halfway decent model is the boar (and I can't even stand the rider).

Their heads look like the old Gorkamorka plastics.

So is Beasts of War finally resigned themselves to the fact that they're now a glorified media arm of Mantic.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/14 22:21:17


Post by: Buzzsaw


Drake_Marcus wrote:Gross. The only halfway decent model is the boar (and I can't even stand the rider).

Their heads look like the old Gorkamorka plastics.

So is Beasts of War finally resigned themselves to the fact that they're now a glorified media arm of Mantic.


I don't wanna resort to "haters gotta hate" but...

BoW had an "Orc Week" that focused mainly on (shockingly) GW's newly released Orc Army book, with relatively scanty references to Mantic's (then still unreleased) Orcs, followed by the superlative Infinity week followed by Grey Knight Week...

Put another way, to apply this "logic" to Dakka, Dakka has clearly become a "glorified media arm of", say, Battle Foam*.




*Note, in the interest of being clear-on-the-internet(TM), I am not actually suggesting that Dakka is a media arm of Battle Foam, merely that D_M's thought process seems suspect.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/14 22:52:23


Post by: The Dwarf Wolf


Mantic, as always, is doying a great work.

And Buzzsaw, haters always gona hate, except when it is GW, in that cases they hate in the first weeks, but buy anyway for the rulez

Long live to Matic and Kings of War...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/15 21:49:03


Post by: adamsouza


They look great. They're orks, WTH does everyone want them to look like ? GW and WOW define what Orks look like for like 90% of the population, who don't have any other image of an Ork to reference.

That said, the first thing to came to mind when I saw them was the Gorkamorka Yufs. They have a more human like posture than the GW adult orks, very WOW like without the slowed purple armor.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/16 05:10:57


Post by: AlexHolker


adamsouza wrote:They're orks, WTH does everyone want them to look like ?

We want them to look inhuman, not subhuman.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/16 08:16:01


Post by: Cosmic


AlexHolker wrote:We want them to look inhuman, not subhuman.


I respect your opinion sir, but what does that mean that Orcs are supposed to be? Do Orcs look like Orcs? Was the first Orc ever thought of meant to look like an Orc? I don't know, maybe it's like saying that a Sphinx looks like a cat. I think that GW's Tau look subhuman. So do Beastmen and Ogres to an extent. If it's humanoid it's going to look subhuman. Inhuman is alien - think Tyranids.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/21 17:16:37


Post by: Pacific


Has anyone got a scale shot of these guys alongside regular WFB orcs? I actually like the WoW conception of orcs, which these seem to resemble more, and might take this guys as a choice considering they are so reasonably priced.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/21 18:17:59


Post by: AlexHolker


Cosmic wrote:I respect your opinion sir, but what does that mean that Orcs are supposed to be?

It means that Orcs should look like you can take them seriously. A row of small, even teeth protruding from the upper or lower jaw makes the plastic Orcs look like they've got gak-eating grins. A horned top hat makes the plastic champion look like a clown. A prominant upper jaw and weak lower jaw makes them look dopey. The boar-rider's protruding upper jaw and mouth-breathing expression makes him look like a racist caricature.

The metal standard bearer shows one way to avoid this: he looks more like a noble savage in the WoW tradition than the doofuses he leads. Or you can go the opposite direction and look to creatures like the viperfish, making the Orc's jaw look like it is built to kill things, whether by crushing bones, tearing flesh or just swallowing things whole.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/21 18:22:57


Post by: Ozymandias


They look a lot better on larger bases. The small bases made them look kind cramped which exaggerated the skinny waist.

Still better than GW basic Orcs, but I don't see a lot of Orc players jumping to use normal Orc Boyz when Savage Orcs are so good!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/24 03:25:20


Post by: Buzzsaw


Looks like Mantic is sweetening the deal for the Easter holiday;
22/04/11: Free Orc Sprue/Bank Holiday Shipping Notice
22 April 2011 17:45
We wanted to let you know that as there are a large number of bank holidays over the next 2-3 weeks, some orders may take a little longer to come through as our postal and collection companies take some time off – we’ll still be packing orders, but if there’s something you want, we recommend placing your order early to get it in good time!

Celebrate Easter with a free sprue!
With the boxes for the egg-cellent new Orcs are in and they begin shipping on Monday! We’ve been massively egg-cited by this release – they’re shaping up to be our best range yet and with more in the pipeline, you’d have to be bunny hopping mad not to follow what we’re up too!

Puns aside, we’re are very proud of the Orcs – so proud in fact, we want everyone to see what we’re up too so we will be putting an Orc Ax Sprue into every post free order!
Orc Ax Troop Sprue – Free in all post free orders




MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/24 13:07:31


Post by: Cosmic


Aye, very cool. Definately worth it.

@AlexHolker: Studio McVee has done a fantastic job with the Orc command units. Mantic's style is a tad on the comical, which is a very good thing, IMO. The two clash, but I think that Mantic's plastic Orcs are more true to their own style rather that the initial concept art. I believe that Mantic is going in the direction that GW should have gone with their miniatures line, or at least they're taking the tree branch that GW ignored.

*edited for the "plastic Orcs" part.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/25 01:20:07


Post by: greenskin lynn


i might have to try and snag one of those sample sprues, and then see how they look with a head swap


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/25 03:13:40


Post by: RiTides


I think they'd look great with a head swap... or perhaps some of these "six new heads" on the great axe sprue will fix the problem (as I think these are excellent, except for the head)...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/25 12:26:36


Post by: greenskin lynn


RiTides wrote:I think they'd look great with a head swap... or perhaps some of these "six new heads" on the great axe sprue will fix the problem (as I think these are excellent, except for the head)...


same here, i like the models, except for the heads, most of which kinda look like they came from one of those old disney cartoons they aren't allowed to show on tv anymore


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/25 12:37:09


Post by: scarletsquig


There will be 12 different heads in total for you to mix and match, with plenty of spares... so it should be very doable to not use the ones you don't like.

I personally prefer the helmeted orc heads, they look a lot more brutal.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/25 16:26:04


Post by: RiTides


Good to hear! Is that 12 different heads in the standard orc sprue, or (I'm assuming) throughout the various different sprues? I.e., what would you need to buy to get the different heads?

(I'm not sure if you know all that, but figured it doesn't hurt to ask )


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/25 16:44:59


Post by: AlexHolker


RiTides wrote:Good to hear! Is that 12 different heads in the standard orc sprue, or (I'm assuming) throughout the various different sprues? I.e., what would you need to buy to get the different heads?

Between three different regiments, there are supposed to be a total of 12 heads. Since the first two regiments only have six between them, the third one is getting more to make up for their mistake.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/25 16:52:54


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


Think I can just buy bulk of the mantic orcs and then GW orc heads from a bits supplier and it's a win/win.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/28 19:55:11


Post by: scarletsquig


New paintjob is up, the models look so much better with a proper paintjob on them.. I especially like all the detail on the armor.



Also, first look at the greatax sprue. Looks really solid, I like the embossed chestplates, they're nice and 80's in style.



I'm much more convinced that these are going to be an actually good buy after seeing these pics... if only they'd done this to start with and not messed around with the goofy goggle-eyed paintjob! The reception would have been a lot better I think.

Oh, and there will be a new metal head sprue too.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/29 00:33:55


Post by: kenshin620


Still not 100% convinced to buy but the new paintjob does make them more menacing. Kinda a shame the great ax sprue is ghoul sized, might get very repetitive if you dont get normal orc sprues

another angle





MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/29 02:17:30


Post by: greenskin lynn


well, the more i see, the better i like them, and so far most of the heads are looking better then that first one i saw


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/29 11:20:34


Post by: Black Nexus


Kinda a shame the great ax sprue is ghoul sized, might get very repetitive if you dont get normal orc sprues

I think that's why the Army Deals are such great deals - because you get all the frames and can mix and match between them. also, looks like they're including an additional set of metal Morax in the new army deal, which would increase variety no end and for £150 for 120 figures (20 of which are cavalry figures and those gorgeous command units) you can't really go wrong! Placing my order for this today - can't wait!

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Orcs/Army-Deals/Product/Garlaks-Monstrous-Horde.html


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/29 16:18:23


Post by: RiTides


Dam, that does sound like a much better deal now that I see them with paint.

Red eyes on the orcs? (At least mostly it seems) YES. Makes them look soooo much better!

The unit looks quite scary all together like that



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/04/29 16:46:40


Post by: filbert


As a confirmed Mantic fanatic, I am most definitely looking forward to this release. I have all the Mantic army deals so far and can vouch for their excellence and value for money (the Dwarf deal is a great case in point - £150 buys you a 3000 point army or thereabouts). For me, the aesthetic is all the better for not being GW - I'm glad Mantic have had the balls to follow their own path rather than mimic GW's sculpts.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/03 18:57:42


Post by: Mr Morden


Quite cool looking Boyz Found their undead plastics pretty good with plenty of extras.

Although I am hoping eventually for some non human skeletons and zombie units


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/03 23:49:05


Post by: Cosmic


Mr Morden wrote:Quite cool looking Boyz Found their undead plastics pretty good with plenty of extras.

Although I am hoping eventually for some non human skeletons and zombie units


Perhaps Mantic could specialize more in the necroMantic haha! (See what I did there?) Oh forget it...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/04 04:46:55


Post by: Buzzsaw


New images posted at Beasts of War, painted versions of the "Kudger's Gang". I'll post the banner bearer, but you gotta click them for the other (they do good work!);



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/04 10:07:39


Post by: Cosmic


That is amazing!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/13 18:53:42


Post by: scarletsquig


Plastic Orc Greatax, the second sprue:



Think they're starting to get a handle on these sculpts, the head on this one is much better and doesn't look goofy.

It reminds me of a good old citadel sculpt from the 80's, only sculpted better and in plastic.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/13 21:40:55


Post by: Da Boss


I like it I suppose, but the hands look a bit goofy. Still getting used to the "snout".


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/13 22:06:44


Post by: Cosmic


They really are awesome models. Their units look so chunky and large when all grouped together. Golem have done a fantastic job with painting this green beastie! They might be repetetive like before, but hell do they look good.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/16 20:48:23


Post by: Cosmic


I know that I post here allot, but I was just browsing through the Mantic site, and...





I found these really cool pictures! They are in the background section of the new Orc hub. To quote an interesting paragraph:

"Orc War Stories are constantly updated as new Orc units and warmachines are released from Mantic Games.

Could this be the "Fight Wagons" and Chariots listed in the Orc KoW Beta list, or possibly a hint of new artillery units?

To quote an even more interesting paragraph:

"Their minds are narrow and as ugly as their faces; their greatest preoccupation being the invention of ever-greater torments for the innocent and good. Humans and Elves alike (the Dwarfs know better) mistake their inability to concentrate and propensity to sudden, mindless violence as stupidity, but Orcs are far from stupid. From their father god Garkan the Black they have inherited an affinity for making; and though their creations are crude and ugly to others’ eyes, they are strong. Orcs are capable of awesome feats of smithying and engineering when inspired - the might of their war machines and weapons is surpassed only by the twisted ingenuity of their instruments of torture."

So could this mean that we might get some more really cool things for the Orcs in the future?

It's "Orc Week" on the Mantic Blog at the moment, and time's almost up for the competition that they're running for their new upcoming Undead cavalry unit.

I expect to see more pictures of the Orc Greatax Warriors as the week unfolds!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/16 23:46:46


Post by: Kroothawk


As this is the currently active Mantic thread, just a small update that the Abyssal Dwarf Berserkers are available for sale:

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Abyssal-Dwarfs/Elite-Units/Product/Abyssal-Dwarf-Berserkers-5-Figures.html


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/16 23:49:16


Post by: RiTides


I LOVE those berserkers! Now if only the exchange rate wasn't so terrible lately, taking away some of the savings for me...



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/19 17:00:35


Post by: scarletsquig


More pics of the greatax regiment are on show on their orc hub page, here's one of them:



This second set is much better than the first.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/19 21:55:30


Post by: Cosmic


Well, I have to say that their faces are very different from the Ax Warriors... but they look so very good! At first glance, I am not seeing any obvious model repetition amongst their ranks. Now I look harder I can begin to see it. This is a good thing, however!

+1 Mantic!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/19 22:03:00


Post by: AgeOfEgos


Kroothawk wrote:As this is the currently active Mantic thread, just a small update that the Abyssal Dwarf Berserkers are available for sale:

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Abyssal-Dwarfs/Elite-Units/Product/Abyssal-Dwarf-Berserkers-5-Figures.html



Well, I was debating buying a Scibor Chaos Dwarf Army in my "No money for GW this year" mode. I think this sent me over the edge---considering they will fit in nicely with his range. Awesome job Mantic---I think you nailed this one.

Thanks for the update Kroot, as usual, you rock.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/19 22:06:22


Post by: kenshin620


Greatax's look much more meaner (aka better) than the previous set. Guess I'll have to give them a look over. Any plans for a Warhost/Army set? Those are very good deals


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/19 22:29:37


Post by: Baragash


kenshin620 wrote:Greatax's look much more meaner (aka better) than the previous set. Guess I'll have to give them a look over. Any plans for a Warhost/Army set? Those are very good deals


There is one £150 and two £99 Orc army deals up on their site


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/19 22:34:26


Post by: LunaHound


Normally i dont like Dwarfs , but i love Mantic Dwarfs , especially the abyssal ones.

Its like Chaos Marauder mixed with dwarfs!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/19 22:59:03


Post by: kenshin620


Baragash wrote:
kenshin620 wrote:Greatax's look much more meaner (aka better) than the previous set. Guess I'll have to give them a look over. Any plans for a Warhost/Army set? Those are very good deals


There is one £150 and two £99 Orc army deals up on their site


I know those exist but I was mainly referring to the smaller box deals


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/21 06:25:11


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


Just a quick heads up, Mantic are having another warehouse clearance sale, not much on offer but the prices are very attractive

Here's the relavent bit of the newsletter:

Well it is real fun times here at Mantic Towers.

First, while some (ahem!) companies are raising their prices – we are selling a few overstock items cheap! Selected lines are on sale for over 50% off! During the warehouse move we discovered a few piles of stock that we realised we have more than we need. Click here to have a look what we have on offer! Get them while you can though – because when they are gone they are gone!!


Here's a run down of what's currently on offer:

Mantic Clippers: £2.50
Army Painter Plastic Glue: £1.50
Mantic Brush: £1.50
Elves Spearmen Troop: £4
Elves Scout Patrol Troop: £4
Elves Bowmen Troop: £4

I've just grabbed enough spearmen to make a horde (already had a command box hanging around), not sure what I'll do with them beyond having a nice painting project at the moment but I might give Kings of War a try in the future.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/21 10:04:15


Post by: warspawned


Thanks for that!

I just got bought 30 Elves, glue & a brush for £15 to give to my brother.

In other news...Mantic to sci-fi?

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=33328 - April Fool (I didn't look at the date - but still)

http://www.beastsofwar.com/kings-of-war/leaked-mantic-sci-fi-pictures/comment-page-2/#comments



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/21 11:17:20


Post by: scarletsquig


^The first link is an old April fool's joke, the second one is news, though.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/21 11:50:30


Post by: warspawned


^The first link is an old April fool's joke, the second one is news, though.


Duly updated. Thanks


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/22 02:27:14


Post by: KingCracker


Man these Mantic minis are looking pretty good. Im seriously thinking of getting into there game and give GW a nice vacation from my table.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/27 04:56:51


Post by: Buzzsaw


Finally, the Ork horde video from Mantic (they do seem to have a sense of humor about them...)





Hat tip to Beasts of War!

FYI, for those hoping that this meant that BoW had resolved their YouTube problems, note that this was posted in Mantic, rather then BoW's account.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/27 20:27:51


Post by: frozenwastes


Cosmic wrote:


I found these really cool pictures! They are in the background section of the new Orc hub. To quote an interesting paragraph:


The Orc Gore is exactly what I wanted to see from Mantic. I'm going to be getting those for sure.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/27 21:27:27


Post by: Cosmic


A very handsome offer for loads of Mantic Elves from Warlord Games:

Warlord Games wrote:Elf and Safety


Mantic models are pretty inexpensive compared to some other manufacturers. And with other companies increasing their prices they're even better value. And to top it off we thought we'd knock a couple of quid off too.

So here you go, this is our Elf and Safety offer. The name's awful but we think the saving's enough for you to forgive us.

This deal includes: -

Stormwind Cavalry Box
Elf Lord on Dragon
2x Bolt Throwers
Palace Guard
Bowmen Regiment
Seaguard Regiment
Shieldwall Detachment
Scout Patrol

That's £136.94 worth of Elves for a bargain £100. And if that's not enough there's a big cherry on the top - you can also choose a FREE Paints of War or Tools of War boxed set.


A link to their website can be found here:

http://store.warlordgames.co.uk/elf-and-safety-6375-p.asp

Have at it folks!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/28 23:06:37


Post by: Cosmic


Ooo look - I'm posting on this thread again! Well, have yourselves a look at this.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/28 23:31:56


Post by: kenshin620


Cosmic wrote:Ooo look - I'm posting on this thread again! Well, have yourselves a look at this.


Let the speculation begin!

The first unknown looks a lot like a spear elf imo. The second looks like a shorter figure possibly but I dotn know. Some type of pointed hat/nose?. IIRC the current rumors for additional factions is a human faction and/or another evil faction


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/28 23:34:42


Post by: filbert


Funny how the one's that do link, link to the Orc hub...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/28 23:43:17


Post by: kenshin620


filbert wrote:Funny how the one's that do link, link to the Orc hub...


The only pages that are up are orcs and abyssal dwarves. The other ones arent done yet apparently. Although why they link is weird


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/28 23:57:43


Post by: LunaHound


kenshin620 wrote:
filbert wrote:Funny how the one's that do link, link to the Orc hub...


The only pages that are up are orcs and abyssal dwarves. The other ones arent done yet apparently. Although why they link is weird


Im hoping it to be some sort of goblin prodder. for some "mushroom hopper" units.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/29 01:11:59


Post by: Saxon


LunaHound wrote:
kenshin620 wrote:
filbert wrote:Funny how the one's that do link, link to the Orc hub...


The only pages that are up are orcs and abyssal dwarves. The other ones arent done yet apparently. Although why they link is weird


Im hoping it to be some sort of goblin prodder. for some "mushroom hopper" units.


Not a mushroom hopper but very cool...

http://www.manticblog.com/?p=3293



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/29 02:28:18


Post by: kenshin620


Saxon wrote:

Not a mushroom hopper but very cool...

http://www.manticblog.com/?p=3293



Wait, that goblin looks exactly like the silhouette

I guess that means they're making a Goblin faction


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/29 02:40:54


Post by: AlexHolker


kenshin620 wrote:The first unknown looks a lot like a spear elf imo. The second looks like a shorter figure possibly but I dotn know. Some type of pointed hat/nose?. IIRC the current rumors for additional factions is a human faction and/or another evil faction

The first one is a plastic/metal hybrid Dark Elf. The second is a (metal?) Goblin packmaster. Apart from those two, the other rumoured factions are Ogres and Humans.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/29 09:45:03


Post by: LunaHound


Good job mantic... i already ordered 110 skeleton off you guys 2 days ago if only i knew you have goblins out....
( i rather have gobbos T-T )

Now im going to tell myself NOT to buy it, if for example comes out in metal or resin :'P

but if it comes out in plastic and whole units....

:'< nooooooooooo


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/29 09:52:24


Post by: Cosmic


Hey Luna, Mantic's Undead is in the place. I don't know about their Gobbos, though, but I know what you mean!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/29 09:55:20


Post by: LunaHound


Im so mad.... i think i drank too much and came home with a hellghast helmet , but not the game -_-


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/05/29 09:56:59


Post by: Cosmic


I can't say I've heard that phrase before!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/06/02 19:55:05


Post by: AlexHolker


So everyone knows, the guys from Mantic are going to be announcing some things on Beasts of War's Turn 8 video today. Current rumours are that they'll be announcing the release of the rule set for their sci-fi game, Warpath, and the first four armies (Space Dwarves, Space Orcs, Space Elves and Space Humans).


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/06/28 19:03:32


Post by: Kroothawk


Mantic blog wrote:June 27th, 2011
Coming soon to a store near you!

It’s the last Monday of the month and you all know what that means… June’s new releases are now shipping!

This release is a real corker for all of you Undead players who can now add Wraiths, Vampire Soul Reavers and a new Undead Elites Army Set to your collection.



The new Wraiths are plastic resin and come complete with a variety of weapons. These ghostly warriors used to be produced in metal, but by switching them to Plastic Resin, we’ve managed to double the quantity you get in the box at no extra cost!

The Soul Reaver Vampire Knights on the other hand are a Plastic Resin/Metal hybrid kit with a brand new Vampire champion in the unit. This figure is also available seperately.



Finally, there’s the brand-spanking new Undead Elites Army Set – the perfect companion to any Undead Army Set or a great way to start an Undead army all on it’s own. With 10 Plastic Resin Revenant Knights and 5 new Plastic Resin Wraiths, the kit also contains Ghouls, Revenants and a catapult!

So there you have it – the black clouds are rolling in and the warehouse is full of purple lightning, which I guess must mean the first boxes have been packaged up and are leaving the warehouse, no doubt being carried away to a store near you by some devilish winged postman (we call him Igor).

http://www.manticblog.com/?p=3815


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/06/30 19:27:14


Post by: kenshin620


Less than 24 hours till the Warpath beta is out


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/06/30 19:43:08


Post by: Alpharius


News releases about what they are about to release?

I guess there are a lot of ex-GW employees over at Mantic!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/20 03:40:53


Post by: kenshin620


I once again shall use older topics! The new Orc Morax (get the joke?) hybrid kit is up for preorder. Not really into the orcs but they look alright

If the new edition of Dwarf King’s Hold wasn’t green enough (Orcy likes to remind us it features Orcs), our Orc range is about to be bolstered by the Morax. These fearsome warriors aren’t content with wielding just one axe oh no, they need to have more, and now you’ll be able to field these excellent models in your Orc army. Morax do not usually carry the shields favoured by lesser Orc warriors, instead they carry two huge weapons, one in each hand. These chunks of metal are too heavy to be wielded by a man, but Morax are capable of raining down a flurry of punishing blows upon their enemies.

A metal hybrid kit, those of you who own our Abyssal Dwarfs will provide testimony to how well the kits go together and paint up, and these Morax add a swathe of new heads and weapons to our ever-expanding Orc army, as well as being very capable of dishing out the damage in Kings of War (don’t believe us? Check out the Army List).

These figures are now available to pre-order (and don’t forget you’ll get a free Journal if you spend over £50) and, as ever, drop us a comment below, let us know what you think and maybe we’ll show you the Gore Riders…

This Set Includes:
2 x Plastic Orc Ax Sprues (6 Figures)
2 x Plastic Orc Greatax Sprues (4 Figures)
1 x Metal Morax Heads and Axes Set
1 x Plastic Orc Command Sprue
10 x 25mm Bases




MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/20 04:01:56


Post by: lord marcus


There is also an orc army deal up at the moment which basically nets you the included morax regiment (20 orcs) for free.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/20 08:05:25


Post by: gicks30


lol! Love the baby thing on the banner


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/21 03:00:55


Post by: lord marcus


gicks30 wrote:lol! Love the baby thing on the banner


Technically called an orcling by Mantic.

They could be used as snotlings or, if your particularly interesting with conversions, grunts/grotz


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/22 02:34:54


Post by: Lork Skystompa


Just seen on BoLS http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/07/exclusive-mantic-unveils-orc-gore.html
New Orc Gore Riders ! I really like these ones .


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/22 03:21:45


Post by: kenshin620


Image for you're convenience



These will be the same material as the Revenant Knights

£19.99 for 10


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/22 13:00:40


Post by: bbb


kenshin620 wrote:These will be the same material as the Revenant Knights

£19.99 for 10


That sounds too good to be true... Are you sure it's not £19.99 for 5?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/22 13:18:07


Post by: agnosto


bbb wrote:
kenshin620 wrote:These will be the same material as the Revenant Knights

£19.99 for 10


That sounds too good to be true... Are you sure it's not £19.99 for 5?


He's right, it's 10 for $34.99 (USD)

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Orcs/Elite-Units.html


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/22 14:06:52


Post by: AgeOfEgos


Those look terrific painted up---and that price seems to be a bit cheaper than GW. Nice job Mantic.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/22 15:30:51


Post by: kenshin620


Another update, it seems that they're gonna update KoW before Warpath comes out which includes including in some new units such as Orclings



One of the things that’ll be hitting big before Warpath hits towards the end of this year (and it’ll hit like a Greatax’s two handed halberd) is the updated Kings of War rules and Army Lists. Part of this will be adding in the existing units we make that don’t have rules (like the Soul Reavers or Dwarf Rangers for instance), and one of these units will be the Orclings. We’ve actually made it possible to have a couple of bases of Orclings in our new Orc Army Set, in addition to the 30 Ax, 20 Greatax and 10 Gore Riders of course, and these characterful blighters look as good on their own base as they do perched on top of a loping Orc Ax Warrior. Orclings are great little pieces for adding even more character to a Mantic Unit so we’re looking forwards to seeing what it is you guys do with yours!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/22 21:18:51


Post by: adhuin


kenshin620 wrote:Image for you're convenience



These will be the same material as the Revenant Knights

£19.99 for 10


Any word on when these are going to be released?
I think I need about 50 of them. Simply awesome porks! (and riders are ok too)


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/23 12:03:03


Post by: Murdock129


I do believe adhuin that you can buy them or at least preorder them already

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Orcs/Elite-Units/Product/Orc-Gore-Riders-10-Figures.html


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/23 14:24:04


Post by: scarletsquig


kenshin620 wrote:

Any word on when these are going to be released?
I think I need about 50 of them. Simply awesome porks! (and riders are ok too)


They start shipping August 29th.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/23 14:45:33


Post by: gicks30


lord marcus wrote:
gicks30 wrote:lol! Love the baby thing on the banner


Technically called an orcling by Mantic.

They could be used as snotlings or, if your particularly interesting with conversions, grunts/grotz


So does strapping an orcling to your banner count as child abuse?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/07/23 18:36:36


Post by: adhuin


No that's just proppa child-rearing for an orc ma.



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/03 17:52:41


Post by: Kroothawk


Here a video with the 3-year plan of Mantic

Mantic wrote:August 3rd, 2011
Kings of War – The 3-Year Plan

So, as promised, we bring you today’s video on the 3-Year plan for Kings of War – and Warpath of course. Over to Ronnie, filmed with a back-up after Orcy ate the Flip Cam. So there you have it, this coming year will all be about balancing the new army lists, which (cheekily) we’ve just seen preview copies of – of course, you’ll get your hands on one of the three new army lists on Friday, only so long as you are signed up to our newsletter – get on it now!

Check back tomorrow for more Kings of War goodness!





Yesterday's blog:

August 2nd, 2011
Kings of War gets new units, upgraded rules and even more death!

Funnily enough we like the Kings of War rules, and 1 year of playing and gaming with them has only made us like them more. We believe they are a clean, simple rules set that encourages strategic play, varied and interesting army selections and – lots of Death!

We also believe it needs more army lists – and while our community has been fantastic at writing some great fan lists (see them all at Wikipedia) we know we need to make some more. So we have asked the irrepressible Alessio Cavatore to do two things:

1) Update the first 5 army lists. The first three army lists were written as we first produced the rules, and when Mantic had a much smaller range of models available. Since then we have released lots of new boxed sets, and all these need rules to accompany them. We have also had loads of great ideas about sets we will produce in the future – some soon, some further down the line. These army lists are all being updated with both the units we have released, and some we intend to (creating some great modelling opportunities until then!).

2) Write some new army lists. While updates to existing armies are all well and good there is nothing as exciting as some new ones. We have now produced three complete new army lists that are all tournament legal – and while Mantic don’t have models for all these ranges – we will in the not too distant future – so keep your eyes peeled for whole hordes of Goblins and the evil and vicious Twilight Kin.

All this means that over the next few weeks nearly 100 new units will become available for your favourite new, mass-battle fantasy wargame.

Of course, what would Mantic be without some teasing, so we’re putting one of the three new army lists exclusively in Friday’s newsletter – you must be signed up if you want to get it first, so make sure you tell your friends and get signed up!

Check back tomorrow for when Ronnie gives us the breakdown of Mantic’s three year plan – not a video to be missed!





MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/03 19:27:47


Post by: RatBot


Telling us what they intend to do for the next three years!? The fools! How will the keep interest in their games now? Everyone knows the proper way to build excitement is to not say anything at all until a week before the product is released!

OK, so it's not detailed minutiae about every release, but I had wondered if they planned on releasing something like a rulebook with more fluff. Too bad it won't be for another couple years.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/04 06:12:51


Post by: Chimera_Calvin


RatBot wrote:Telling us what they intend to do for the next three years!? The fools! How will the keep interest in their games now? Everyone knows the proper way to build excitement is to not say anything at all until a week before the product is released!




To be fair, its only for the next 18 months (we're in the middle of year 2 now), but its still nice to be kept informed by people who want my money (and to be honest will be getting it ).

Interested to see this year's 'mini rulebook' and how much more depth the advanced rules will bring. Glad they are revising and expanding all the army lists as well. Wonder what army list we'll get on friday? Goblins or Twilight Kin would be the obvious as they both have imminent model releases, but the human list is the one people really want and if it's already written (as it would seem from Ronnie holding the book which its going to be in - could be a mock-up though I suppose) it would be nice to see.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/04 09:21:09


Post by: Azazelx


I hope they mix things up a little in the next Morgoth's boxed set. Maybe keep the undead and swap something else in for the dwarfs.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/04 09:24:07


Post by: Baragash


scipio.au wrote:I hope they mix things up a little in the next Morgoth's boxed set. Maybe keep the undead and swap something else in for the dwarfs.


The main purpose of changing the set is to provide two armies of equal points so people can play fair games straight out of the box, so I suspect they won't swap out the Dwarves.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/04 12:17:30


Post by: deejaybainbridge


Just for a little note to anyone in the York area of England. A store called Boys now stocks Mantic figures. Making York well stocked with it's own GW store, Pirateer Press being sold in the comic shop Traveling Man, and now Mantic in Boys on Goodramgate.

As a result I may be investing in some of the Ork figures.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/05 21:46:10


Post by: Azazelx


Baragash wrote:
scipio.au wrote:I hope they mix things up a little in the next Morgoth's boxed set. Maybe keep the undead and swap something else in for the dwarfs.


The main purpose of changing the set is to provide two armies of equal points so people can play fair games straight out of the box, so I suspect they won't swap out the Dwarves.


I did some checking - it appears that the boxed set is almost identical, except you get a slightly nicer rulebook for a 10UKP price increase....

MHORGOTH RISING £39.99
1x Kings of War rulebook

1x Dwarf Army
20x Dwarf Ironclad Warriors with Command
10x Dwarf Ironwatch
10x Dwarf Shieldbreakers
1x Dwarf Ironbelcher with crew

1x Undead Army
20x Undead Skeletons with Command
10x Undead Revenants
10x Undead Ghouls
15x Undead Zombies
1x Undead Balefire Catapult with crew

1x Dwarf Poster Guide
1x Undead Poster Guide

MHORGOTH'S REVENGE £49.99
1x Kings of War rulebook

1x Dwarf Army
25x Dwarf Ironclad Warriors with Command
20x Dwarf Ironwatch
1x Dwarf Ironbelcher with crew

1x Undead Army
20x Undead Skeletons with Command
10x Undead Revenants
10x Undead Ghouls
15x Undead Zombies
1x Undead Balefire Catapult with crew

1x Dwarf Poster Guide
1x Undead Poster Guide


5 fewer dwarfs and some of the dwarfs being slightly different models/units, nicer rulebook, 25% price increase...

...and so it begins?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 00:09:36


Post by: AlexHolker


scipio.au wrote:5 Extra dwarfs and some of the dwarfs being slightly different models/units, nicer rulebook, 20% price increase...

...and so it begins?

5 less dwarves, actually. The new, £50 one's Mhorgoth Rising, not Mhorgoth's Revenge.

...and it's a 25% price increase.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 00:56:29


Post by: The Dwarf Wolf


It looks like

And it is annoying.

I start to wonder what will be the price of warpath models (they seem to be spending lots of money in it).

This and they politics of "we have some forge fathers models ready, but we prefer to keep the pics a secret for non brittish/north american public" are annoying me a bit...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 01:22:29


Post by: Reecius


Wake up GW, this is your competition! 3 years developing rules, free to download with player feedback. They're undercutting your prices and you're leaving the door wide open.

It is so painfully, obviously the correct way to do things.

Kudos for the KoW crew for doing things right.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 01:29:24


Post by: AlexHolker


The Dwarf Wolf wrote:I start to wonder what will be the price of warpath models (they seem to be spending lots of money in it).

Since Mantic has decided to make essential units (like vehicles and heavy weapon troopers) in restic instead of plastic, the price per model is looking to be twice as high as KoW (55 + artillery + buggy vs. 95 + 2 * artillery).


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 02:12:57


Post by: The Dwarf Wolf


Vehicle will be done in resin? Thats a bit sad, sounds like they will be "solid blocks".

Heavy weapons troopers too? Thats i bit more sad, as poseability will probably be affected.

I hope the increase in price per model dont raeach twice the KoW price, i expect a increase (the game seens to have smaller model count) but not so much.

If 10 models in Warpath cost 28 U$, that will be almost the same price of marines (in retailer stores). I dont believe mantic would do something like that.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 03:41:27


Post by: Azazelx


AlexHolker wrote:
5 less dwarves, actually. The new, £50 one's Mhorgoth Rising, not Mhorgoth's Revenge.
...and it's a 25% price increase.


Point and fixed. Thanks. I shouldn't do these things when I'm half asleep.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 04:18:23


Post by: djphranq


Nice video! I love their stuff. I haven't bought anything yet though... still unsure what army to get... leaning towards dwarfs.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 06:50:42


Post by: Kingsley


Reecius wrote:Wake up GW, this is your competition! 3 years developing rules, free to download with player feedback. They're undercutting your prices and you're leaving the door wide open.

It is so painfully, obviously the correct way to do things.

Kudos for the KoW crew for doing things right.


The problem is that the rules themselves aren't that solid. They look and feel extremely "40k lite" and lack basic mechanics. What I would really like to see is GW's rules and design studio coupled with Mantic's marketing department.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 07:00:50


Post by: scarletsquig


Fetterkey wrote:
Reecius wrote:Wake up GW, this is your competition! 3 years developing rules, free to download with player feedback. They're undercutting your prices and you're leaving the door wide open.

It is so painfully, obviously the correct way to do things.

Kudos for the KoW crew for doing things right.


The problem is that the rules themselves aren't that solid. They look and feel extremely "40k lite" and lack basic mechanics. What I would really like to see is GW's rules and design studio coupled with Mantic's marketing department.


That's basically what you have already. Alessio Cavatore and Jake Thornton do the game design for mantic.

Alessio wrote the 5th edition 40k rulebook. How much more GW do you want things to get?

Unless you'd like to get Matt Ward in on this as well? :p


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 11:06:30


Post by: Kroothawk


scarletsquig wrote:Unless you'd like to get Matt Ward in on this as well? :p

Only for writing the background
To attract 5 year old gamers


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 11:11:41


Post by: AlexHolker


Kroothawk wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:Unless you'd like to get Matt Ward in on this as well? :p

Only for writing the background
To attract 5 year old gamers

I'd rather have him on the team that goes to conventions.

He goes in the dunking booth. Dunk the idiot, win a Forgefather.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 13:57:38


Post by: Kingsley


scarletsquig wrote:
Fetterkey wrote:
Reecius wrote:Wake up GW, this is your competition! 3 years developing rules, free to download with player feedback. They're undercutting your prices and you're leaving the door wide open.

It is so painfully, obviously the correct way to do things.

Kudos for the KoW crew for doing things right.


The problem is that the rules themselves aren't that solid. They look and feel extremely "40k lite" and lack basic mechanics. What I would really like to see is GW's rules and design studio coupled with Mantic's marketing department.


That's basically what you have already. Alessio Cavatore and Jake Thornton do the game design for mantic.


Alessio isn't exactly highly regarded by most players. He's responsible for a lot of silly things and oversimplifications (Kill Points were his doing, for instance), though his record certainly isn't all bad. Unfortunately the Warpath rules suffer from this to a crazy degree. The game is so simplified that there aren't rules for casualty removal-- not really my thing. The only real thing Warpath has going for it is that all the streamlining means games can go by really quickly-- but this comes at the price of detail that I, as well as most others I've discussed the rules with, would prefer to have in game. I'd certainly love for Warpath to be a great game, but I'm currently failing to see where the company can really go with the rules as they stand.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 14:10:18


Post by: kenshin620


Fetterkey wrote:
The problem is that the rules themselves aren't that solid. They look and feel extremely "40k lite" and lack basic mechanics. What I would really like to see is GW's rules and design studio coupled with Mantic's marketing department.


Hmm after seeing a years worth of You Make Da Call, I think I'd rather have some other rule set than GW's


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 14:24:00


Post by: piperider361


Did they lower the amount of Revenants in the Morgoth's Revenge set at some point? Because mine came with 20...

Otherwise that's even fewer models you get now.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 16:19:58


Post by: Duncan_Idaho


Alessio isn't exactly highly regarded by most players. He's responsible for a lot of silly things and oversimplifications (Kill Points were his doing, for instance), though his record certainly isn't all bad. Unfortunately the Warpath rules suffer from this to a crazy degree. The game is so simplified that there aren't rules for casualty removal-- not really my thing. The only real thing Warpath has going for it is that all the streamlining means games can go by really quickly-- but this comes at the price of detail that I, as well as most others I've discussed the rules with, would prefer to have in game. I'd certainly love for Warpath to be a great game, but I'm currently failing to see where the company can really go with the rules as they stand.


That´s news to me. Most gamers that know how GW works, do know how "boxed-in" designers at GW are. And most stuff ascribed to the designers is actually managment decissions that more or less aim for profit and not playability.

Warpath is the pure core of the game and it is Beta and at the moment we are playtesting it.

So instead of complaining you better get some games under your belt and tell Alessio and Mantic what they could do better.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 19:22:36


Post by: Kingsley


Duncan_Idaho wrote:So instead of complaining you better get some games under your belt and tell Alessio and Mantic what they could do better.


Oh, I have been. I'd love to see Warpath succeed-- more competition in this field is definitely a good thing. Unfortunately, they seem pretty committed to not having casualty removal, which is sort of a dealbreaker for me, but so it goes.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 19:25:08


Post by: BrookM


Casualty removal is most likely omitted from the games because when you have a painted army of minis it would be a shame to remove them oh-so quickly due to casualties. That and Alessio likes to write fast rules that work with chess clocks. His company sells those.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 19:42:18


Post by: Agamemnon2


Duncan_Idaho wrote:So instead of complaining you better get some games under your belt and tell Alessio and Mantic what they could do better.


There's only a limited amount of ways to sugarcoat "Scrap everything and try again from scratch" in my experience.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 21:05:46


Post by: lord_blackfang


Agamemnon2 wrote:
Duncan_Idaho wrote:So instead of complaining you better get some games under your belt and tell Alessio and Mantic what they could do better.


There's only a limited amount of ways to sugarcoat "Scrap everything and try again from scratch" in my experience.


"And this time really start from scratch instead of taking 40k and removing bits until it fits on 12 pages"


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/06 22:36:37


Post by: Kingsley


BrookM wrote:Casualty removal is most likely omitted from the games because when you have a painted army of minis it would be a shame to remove them oh-so quickly due to casualties.


This works pretty well in their WHFB-lite ruleset, where block regiments clash (since these games are scaled where each guy represents 10, removing models to form un-unified blocks, as with WHFB, is actually unfluffy), but IMO is unsuited for a sci-fi skirmish game on the same scale as 40k. I for one find it basically intolerable, especially since it makes the game a lot more "swingy" and luck-based.

BrookM wrote:That and Alessio likes to write fast rules that work with chess clocks. His company sells those.


Haha, I didn't know that angle...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/07 01:09:17


Post by: RiTides


Agreed, that casualty removal being ommitted might actually work OK for a fantasy-like ruleset (KoW). Not sure if it'll translate to 40k, but I'm a fantasy player atm so I can't really comment on that...



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/07 06:34:02


Post by: Azazelx


piperider361 wrote:Did they lower the amount of Revenants in the Morgoth's Revenge set at some point? Because mine came with 20...

Otherwise that's even fewer models you get now.


It's supposed to come with 10, but some seem to come with an extra 10 "bonus" Revenants.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/07 08:04:49


Post by: siamtiger


Exclusive preview on the forgefathers artillery artwork

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=41792


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/07 09:14:49


Post by: shasolenzabi


I used to play 40kRT w/o removing minis, just laid them down where they got wounded/killed.

Hmmm, Thudd-Guns with a seat and tracks!
http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=41792 Can't wait to see how they work, and what they can do.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/07 10:05:33


Post by: Kroothawk


I posted the pics and text in the special Warpath thread.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/07 11:15:42


Post by: Baragash


Warpath is not a skirmish game, though because it copies so much of the basics from 40k it's trapped as one at the moment.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/07 14:35:18


Post by: Kingsley


shasolenzabi wrote:I used to play 40kRT w/o removing minis, just laid them down where they got wounded/killed.


I did too (albeit not in RT), but this is different-- it's not that you don't remove miniatures from the table, it's that there aren't mechanisms for removing models from units at all, and units die in an all-or-nothing fashion.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/09 07:42:16


Post by: ChocolateGork


But 40k is exactly the opposite.

There is no way to represent damaged and wounded men. Someone either dies or is perfectly capable. Which is silly. Also armour saves happen after wounds WTF?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/09 15:43:50


Post by: kenshin620


The Dwarf Hub is now up and running

http://www.manticgames.com/Fantasy/Dwarfs.html

And theres a preorder for a Dwarf Mega Army

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Dwarfs/Getting-Started/Product/Baldrs-Armoured-Battalion-Mega-Army.html


This Set Includes:
1 x FREE 56 page full colour 2nd Edition Rulebook
8 x FREE Army Lists including 3 new armies, 5 special characters and over 75 new units
1 x Metal Dwarf King
1 x Metal Berserker Lord
40 x Plastic Dwarf Ironclad with Command Groups
30 x Plastic Dwarf Ironwatch
20 x Plastic Dwarf Shieldbreakers
20 x Plastic/Metal Dwarf Rangers
5 x Metal Ironguard with Command
2 x Plastic Dwarf Ironbelcher with Crew
1 x Plastic/Metal Dwarf Flame Belcher with Crew
Mantic Guide
Loads of Mantic Points
£99.99


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/09 17:01:49


Post by: scarletsquig


^ Just to do the maths on that for everyone:

£135 of dwarfs for £99.

Plus the new 56-page rulebook.

Pretty good deal, made even cheaper by the fact that it will be available to independent retailers, so you can get some extra discount on top of that.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/10 13:12:08


Post by: ChocolateGork


Get two and you have a very big collection.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 14:37:05


Post by: Buzzsaw


By way of Beasts of War: painted Forgefather for Warpath:


I have to admit, while the whole "beards in space" deal is a little off-putting to me, I do like the details. I actually like the proportions rather more then GW's space marines... I could easily see using these to make a Space Marine army, depending on what the other weapons look like.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 14:45:06


Post by: kenshin620


Doesnt look.....half bad actually. I require more pics of more minis though! I dont really want to buy any forgefathers, meh. Cant fit them in any of my collections

Buzzsaw wrote:I could easily see using these to make a Space Marine army, depending on what the other weapons look like.


Arent you a little short to be a Space Marine


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 16:44:34


Post by: bbb


I'm not blown away, but I don't dislike it either. I think it bodes well for the future of the line.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 16:45:12


Post by: Eilif


Buzzsaw wrote: I actually like the proportions rather more then GW's space marines... I could easily see using these to make a Space Marine army, depending on what the other weapons look like.


That's what I thought when I saw it on the other thread. Besides, SM's in game arent' nearly as heroic as the fluff would suggest. Squats might be a better match for the current SM stats.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 16:52:09


Post by: Manchu


I like it. I hope they have some with actual beards because as it stands I'm not thinking "space dwarf" so much as stubby robot. I'm not a big Mantic fan but I'm crossing my fingers over this one.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 16:58:43


Post by: Aramus


Gimme! That's all.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 17:16:05


Post by: Buzzsaw


In the interest of being comprehensive, I figure I might as well shamelessly swipe the alternate paint scheme that scarletsquig posted in the other thread "(courtesy of max jet on warseer)";



MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 17:48:48


Post by: Scottywan82


WOW! Looks pretty sick, actually! I'd get a squad, assuming they have several poses.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 17:57:08


Post by: Polonius


It's been my experience with Mantic that their models (elves aside) look notably better in person and well painted than online.

The elves are a little off no matter what you do, unfortuantly.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 17:58:20


Post by: SilverMK2


Not really feeling it at all unfortunately.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 18:07:03


Post by: Necros


Was a tad underwhelmed when i first saw him, but he's growing on me a little. I like the photoshopped one much better than the original. Have they said what other armies they plan to launch with? or will it just be dwarves at first and then adding others later on? I liked the sketches I saw for their human army


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 18:10:21


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


Basically I need to see Moar!

There is a little promise here mind, and although I have not been interested in their fantasy stuff, at all. Their Sci-fi range might hook me in.

I always felt GW's early stuff was dominated by a much more interesting and nicer looking 40K range. Maybe Sci-fi stuff is easier on the eye?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 18:22:27


Post by: nkelsch


Looks good to me.

I wonder if this will be a static pose model or a line of interchangeable multi-part models?

I look forward to some neat 'counts as' armies with these. This might be the first mantic product I might buy.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 19:46:21


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


If the have mech suits of some sort they could be a cool alternaTAU.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 20:06:34


Post by: Thorne


Mantic have really nailed this one on the head with a resounding thump. As someone who is currently making a imperial guard themed squat force I couldn't fit these in with my current theme. That said it wouldn't stop me from getting a small force to proxy as inquisitors and sending them to war with my EXO armoured troopers.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 20:08:02


Post by: kenshin620


I know everyone is on the warpath buzz but anyways the rest of the KoW mega army deals are out http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Getting-Started/Mega-armies.html


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 20:11:50


Post by: Tronbot2600


Wow, I wasn't really feeling much of the concept art, but I love this guy...he just oozes personality.

Glad to see they didn't totally rip off GWs art style.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 20:15:05


Post by: adhuin


Buzzsaw wrote:In the interest of being comprehensive, I figure I might as well shamelessly swipe the alternate paint scheme that scarletsquig posted in the other thread "(courtesy of max jet on warseer)";



What separate parts does this have?

Are Legs and torso separate or combined? Head swappable?


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 21:02:17


Post by: lord marcus


neither. This heavy weapons trooper has posable arms


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 21:11:11


Post by: kenshin620


lord marcus wrote:neither. This heavy weapons trooper has posable arms


Not too surprising, mantic is usually very limited on their poses





MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 21:25:23


Post by: Polonius


kenshin620 wrote:
lord marcus wrote:neither. This heavy weapons trooper has posable arms


Not too surprising, mantic is usually very limited on their poses


Which works fine for fantasy, but will be interesting to see how it translates into sci-fi.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 21:32:22


Post by: scarletsquig


This heavy weapon model will be one of their resin plastic models, since it's a more elite unit.

The basic forgefather troops will be plastic and should have a bit more kitbash potential.

The weapon that the model is holding is a "heat-cannon".. so either a meltagun or multi-melta equivalent.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 21:34:42


Post by: notprop


Buzzsaw wrote:In the interest of being comprehensive, I figure I might as well shamelessly swipe the alternate paint scheme that scarletsquig posted in the other thread "(courtesy of max jet on warseer)";



The photoshopping does make this look better, but now I see this closer up I'm not too taken with the beak-beards (are they still looking for people to name this stuff, I think I'm on to a winner ).


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 21:36:52


Post by: NAVARRO


I kind of like it, good job mantic!
It has some old school flavor to it and should be nice to paint up.
Wow the prices of the army deals are incredible good!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 21:36:54


Post by: RatBot


I like it, but I don't know how much. I need to see more to make a real assessment.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 21:38:02


Post by: Target


I kind of want to use these for servitors in my inquisitorial retinue...hmmm


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/11 23:44:15


Post by: The Dwarf Wolf


Why the discussion about this news have ben moved for here? Oh well...

Here we go, now my pace Dwarves (not squats) count as marines army will be real... it look amazing (without the golem studios paiting).

Really, the guy from golem studios seens to paint very well, at least he use tecniques i wanted to know, but he never work properly on the colors. WHY blue and gold? It Would look aweome in the red/orange/brass colors from the fantasy dwarves...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 00:38:18


Post by: Gornall


Personally I love the model and am seriously debating building an army of them. However my wife took one look and said:

"Looks like a techno-Santa Claus"


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 01:30:41


Post by: nkelsch


Gornall wrote:

"Looks like a techno-Santa Claus"


I totally want to paint him red and white now. Robosanta!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 06:46:32


Post by: Chimera_Calvin


Necros wrote:Was a tad underwhelmed when i first saw him, but he's growing on me a little. I like the photoshopped one much better than the original. Have they said what other armies they plan to launch with? or will it just be dwarves at first and then adding others later on? I liked the sketches I saw for their human army


First two armies will be Forgefathers (Dwarfs) and Marauders (Orks) - below is the full list of races for Warpath with a brief description but after the first two I have no idea about the order. I would assume Corporation is number 3 simply because of how integral they are to the background (a la IoM in 40k)



Corporation (humans) - Turn up at an alien world and want to trade, but soon have bribed the local officials, smeared or assassinated their opponents and take over completely. Resistance is met with military force. Model wise they are going for a cross between real-world modern troops and IG (with a rumour of uber-elite power armoured shock troops to come). Think of a sinister galactic version of the East India Company, Weyland-Yutani corporation and The Alliance from Firefly.

Rebs (humans with Alien Auxiliaries) - Believe everyone should be able to do there own thing, have been joined by lesser alien races that have become refugees or genocide survivors from Corporation purges. Think of the Browncoats from Firefly, Terran rebels from Starcraft, etc.

The Plague (mutant humans) - A Corporation biological warfare experiment gone wrong, some people died, some were turned into mindless violent zombies, some mutated horribly. Those that retain intelligence become leaders and scavenge weapons and supplies. Think of Resident Evil, Firefly Reavers, 28 Days Later, etc with some GW Chaos mutation chucked in the mix.

Marauders (orx) - A savage and primitive race earmarked for extermination were saved by a Corporation general who had an idea to use them as shock troops. They were taken away for indoctrination and training but eventually rebelled and now work as pirates and mercenaries. More like the old Rogue Trader-era GW orks than the current version.

Forgefathers (dwarfs) - An old and highly advanced race that the Corporation have been unable to subdue. They are elite forces with good armour and a lot of heat based (flamer/melta) weapons and large caliber, high ROF guns. They are miners and smiths whose society is built on an elite core of prospectors who find candidate planets, the bulk of the population who then take out the valuable material and an underclass of more primitive scavengers who work as rag-and-bone men, scrap-metal merchants, etc but who are tough and violent (berserkers in space )

Asterians (elves) - Responsible for a lot of mysterious disappearances of ships and colonies and are often sighted near black holes. <no more information as yet...>

The Zz'or (bugs) - Presumably a Tyranid/Aliens/Starship Troopers Bugs clone, there is a BoW backstage video if anyone has seen it?

The Eighth Race (??) - The first rule of Warpath is, you do not talk about the Eighth Race. The second rule of Warpath is, you do not talk about the Eighth Race. I have no idea, assuming its something of their own design that they are keeping tightly under wraps for now.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 08:54:54


Post by: Baragash


Corporation are number 3 around Jan/Feb.

8th race is number 4, the popular rumour is that that'll be the robotic/cyborg/terminator/necron/cybermen etc style race


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 13:25:15


Post by: ChocolateGork


I will make an imperial guard army out of the dwarfs. Those quad cannons can be hydras and the heavy weapon troopers can be veterans.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 14:43:14


Post by: greenskin lynn


well, there goes more of my money to mantic.......


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 14:51:26


Post by: Kirasu


I hope the forgefathers dont get all eaten by Mantics version of the tyranids!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 14:52:39


Post by: Necros


Baragash wrote:Corporation are number 3 around Jan/Feb.

8th race is number 4, the popular rumour is that that'll be the robotic/cyborg/terminator/necron/cybermen etc style race


I thought no one was supposed to talk about the 8th race?

Guess I'll wait and see what the guard wannabe's come out like.. or maybe the rebels. I'd like to find some good models to use as conscripts. I have this crazy idea where I wanna make a totally full platoon with all the squads.. so that means 50 conscripts, but I don't wanna use any of the regular guard models for them, been looking for something different, more like civilians that got a lasgun thrown at them and told to run out and kill stuff.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 15:26:29


Post by: scarletsquig


The "not-necrons" rumour is entirely an internet fabrication from wishlisters filling in the blanks from GW's range of armies.

Mantic has said nothing about the 8th race, at all, anywhere. There are no rumours, only wishlists.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 15:31:18


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


Gornall wrote:Personally I love the model and am seriously debating building an army of them. However my wife took one look and said:

"Looks like a techno-Santa Claus"



Thats not as cute as it sounds.






Someone's made the naughty list!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 15:43:08


Post by: The Dwarf Wolf


Lets hope so scarletsquig...

It nice to see this list, we have so many races that are not "GWish", but have use on GW games as tottally diferent things: rebs, plague, forgefathers... 3 Races wich are concepts that GW dont use anymore, or never touched at all.

And there is no Space Marines clone!!!

As we can clearly see, Mantic will try to sell those for 40k gamers, for count-as, but their game will not be a 40k clone at all...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 17:11:07


Post by: Duncan_Idaho


It´s really just wishlisting...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/12 22:42:35


Post by: The Dwarf Wolf


Twilight Kin have an Army list. You can find it here: http://manticgames.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=e62f0c35454fa3ba687404d69&id=7a2dadb13e&e=f701682e2a

I dont have looked at the list deeply, but the tips on "rule changes" are all great. Remember that somethings here will probably be added to existing list too.

The "new" nerve rule is great, the same thing but discomplicated. Its now very easy to know how much wounds a unit can take before it go in trouble...

Hidden is a nice rule, but a see it beying changed in future, right now it is a deep strike who dont scatter.

Apparently, lots of "regular options" of Heroes got an option for mounts, that sounds great, and maybe it happens with other armies too. I mean, the typical General, Army Champion and Standard Bearer all can have mounts on twilight kin, maybe the other armys got the same for their ones.

About the "miniatures", nothing is out but the fluff and unit names pretty suggest great new minitures, specially winged things, and "things from the darkness". I liked it...


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 03:51:21


Post by: kenshin620


E-figures apparently has details on the first few releases/prices for Warpath. Looks like separate Forgefathers wont be seen for a whole month

October

Warpath Orx Section (10) $24.99
Warpath Orx Platoon (20) $34.99
Warpath Orx Hero $13.99
Warpath Orx Starter Army (40+2v) $74.99

November

Warpath Paint Set $24.99
Warpath Game Orxs vs Dwarfs $74.99

December

Warpath Forgefathers Steel Warriors Section (10) $24.99
Warpath Forgefathers Grizzlers Team (5) $24.99
Warpath Forgefathers Steel Warriors Platoon (20) $34.99
Warpath Forgefathers Hero $13.99
Warpath Forgefathers Army $74.99

The Warpath game box will include
55 Models, 2 vehicles, dice, rules and Mantic Points

10 Forgefathers Steel Warriors, 5 Grizzlers, 1 Big Gun
30 Orx, 10 Heavy Weapon Orx, 1 Trike


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 07:47:25


Post by: lord_blackfang


I see the prices are rapidly approaching GW.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 08:14:04


Post by: bolo


lord_blackfang wrote:I see the prices are rapidly approaching GW.


Not even close.

20 Ork Boys from GW = $96.00AUD

20 Orx from Mantic = $33.60AUD


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 08:41:01


Post by: Vain


bolo wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:I see the prices are rapidly approaching GW.


Not even close.

20 Ork Boys from GW = $96.00AUD

20 Orx from Mantic = $33.60AUD



Yeah but that is at our stupid Oz prices right? Still a decent gap but not as large as that for our 'merkin friends.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 08:59:23


Post by: bolo


If I could buy GW Orks at American prices I'd have used American prices.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 13:37:29


Post by: TechMarine1


Buzzsaw wrote:In the interest of being comprehensive, I figure I might as well shamelessly swipe the alternate paint scheme that scarletsquig posted in the other thread "(courtesy of max jet on warseer)";



SQUATS!!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 14:17:02


Post by: Hexol


Vain wrote:
bolo wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:I see the prices are rapidly approaching GW.


Not even close.

20 Ork Boys from GW = $96.00AUD

20 Orx from Mantic = $33.60AUD



Yeah but that is at our stupid Oz prices right? Still a decent gap but not as large as that for our 'merkin friends.


It's $29USD for 10 Ork Boyz, which is only $4 more than the 10 Orx. But it would cost $58USD for 20 Boyz vs $35USD for 20 Orx. Also the Orx vs Dwarves is $25 cheaper than Assault on Black Reach. Looks like Mantic will only push the savings when buying in bulk. Another issue for us 'merkins could be the weak USD, I don't really know how the Mantic price changes relate in GBP. And TBH, I'm more interested in the armor pricing, since that's where GW really screws you.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 14:46:43


Post by: kenshin620


Hmm yes I must admit just like getting a fountain drink at a convenience store, it is much more favorable to get larger units. Heck those starter armies are pretty much giving you the vehicles for free


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 18:07:43


Post by: lord marcus


Mantic said on thier facebook that the prices quoted are innaccurate.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 18:23:23


Post by: kenshin620


Oh, huh well thats a bummer I suppose


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 20:31:44


Post by: Dez


It could be less, which I'm hoping is the case.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 20:38:16


Post by: lord marcus


Dez wrote:It could be less, which I'm hoping is the case.


same here.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 20:50:59


Post by: lord_blackfang


lord marcus wrote:
Dez wrote:It could be less, which I'm hoping is the case.


same here.


I honestly doubt anyone is hoping they'll cost more.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 20:55:51


Post by: Eilif


lord marcus wrote:
Dez wrote:It could be less, which I'm hoping is the case.


same here.


Agreed,
The prices formerly listed (especially the larger quantities) are lower than GW. However not that much lower. Compare the base set of 10 forgefathers at 25 to 10 GW guardsmen at 30, and the difference isn't much. Further, even if Mantic institutes more posabillity than they have in the KOW line, you're still looking at a GW kit that probably has alot more pieces for not much more $.

A price difference as small as that is going to lead alot of folks to choose pay a bit more for a GW army that comes with a built-in player base rather than the Mantic alternative.

As a final note, compare also to Wargames factory which offers 18 multipose troopers for 20 bucks!


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 22:02:57


Post by: Toreador


Except that mantic is selling SPACE DWARVES!! and old school RT era looking orx.

Did I mention dwarves in space? The game is interesting to play so far as we have done. But I think quite a few people will buy the Forgefathers just to have them. Depending on how the Orx look they are something that could be bought and used in old school like RT era games too.

But really, even if you have more options, when you don't make something that competes there are more reasons to buy. The dwarves fit this realm. Not so sure about the rest, but I keep hearing "counts as" 40k armies. So I think in that situation being a little cheaper will help as people find alternative model options that GW doesn't have.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/16 23:53:19


Post by: Eilif


I totally see your point and as for myself, I would much rather buy forgefathers than another GW army. I'm in for Forgefathers with the only thing to be decided is whether to buy a warband or an army.

Still, I think that most folks looking for a new game or considering a second army will require a bigger price break than the one listed above to start in with a game that hasn't got a fraction of the gaming community that 40k does. If I were a new gamer, the price difference wouldn't be enough to entice me.

Of course this may all be moot if the prices end up being less or the quantities end up being more.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/17 12:09:57


Post by: Azazelx


If the prices are that close to GW's I'll probably just pick up the base box or maybe just a space-Dwarf-plastic-army box if they do the same thing they did with KoW, use them as "counts as" for a small 500-pt force of IG once they're supplemented with vehicles and heavies from elsewhere and that'll be it.

I've got ani-GW pathological need to jump on board with the next Warzone with both feet. I'm still in the (slow) process of turning my piles of old Warzone models into IG.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/17 12:34:51


Post by: Gitzbitah


If their prices are truly that close to GW, then Mantic's sales may be low for a year- then GW's prices will be 30% higher, and things will be as they are now.


MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68) @ 2011/08/17 12:39:22


Post by: lord_blackfang


So when will they unveil the sprues? The main thing I'm interested in is whether there will be enough options to make the Forge Fathers useful for Necromunda Squat gangs.