In recent times where we have seen the changes to distribution to Oz etc, Facebook debacle, resin swith + price hike, WD subscription change and other general price increases. I would like to hear your predictions of what pure gold strategies we have to look forward to?
I was thinking of some kind of built in 'Pay Per Roll' meter installed in all Realm of Battle (Clatter) boards. This, combined with a retrofit to only allow GW models to stand up on them (not on any other surafce), would mean you would be charged everytime you roll the dice. The more models you use the more it would cost.
This would be an excellent way to nerf IG etc, couild you afford those 40 man Powerblob units?, kiss goodbye to Hydra spam!
bolo wrote:They will not only charge up to 25% more for their "finecast" resin models, but they won't even remove them off the sprue! (unlike PP who do).
Oh wait, it's already happened..
You want them to charge even more for that service level then?
bolo wrote:They will not only charge up to 25% more for their "finecast" resin models, but they won't even remove them off the sprue! (unlike PP who do).
Truth be told, I'd rather see them on the sprue than loose.... Particularly with the longer, thinner parts. I got a set of Menoth Exemplar bastions a while back and they were severely warped.
They will switch all their produce to rapidly degenerating plastic so they only actually last a month before disintergrating, forcing you to buy new replacement models.
If you run a non GW sanctioned tourney you may not release any photos the event if they contain GW IP, so no minis, rulebooks, letters G and W together etc
That'll teach them there freeloaders!
GW will offer their customers even more value by reducing the points cost of all items in the next 40k release by 15%.
There will be no more errata, GW do not make mistakes.
You may only paint your miniatures using GW paints. The red shirts will all be given specially developed chemical testers just make sure. Further you may only paint and assemble your GW miniatures while facing the direction of the corporate home office. Failure to do will result in charges being pressed by the GW legal department.
Also white dwarf will change its name to lawsuit weekly so we can read about all the people getting taken to court over not using the right paints.
Dakkadan wrote:Also white dwarf will change its name to lawsuit weekly so we can read about all the people getting taken to court over not using the right paints.
That probably won't happen - where will they put all the adverts for GW stuff?
Dakkadan wrote:Also white dwarf will change its name to lawsuit weekly so we can read about all the people getting taken to court over not using the right paints.
That probably won't happen - where will they put all the adverts for GW stuff?
I fully expect them to send a Red Shirt to the home of every customer that they have an address for (from shipping details on their website). The representative will then personally pee in his or her breakfast cereal or coffee (the customer's choice as the customer is always right and they value their opinion!). The falls in line with the mindnumbing idiocy of their recent decisions.
Really? If you hate this game and hate the company and hate the community so much, go find another game. You're obviously not willing to roll with the punches of a luxury commodity's adaptation to a difficult economy. Whining about stuff won't make things better. Why not do something to be part of a solution than the problem?
A price increase next year despite any inflation etc, stop selling to internet retailers if they offer a discount or write new business terms limiting said discount to so little then you might as well buy direct from GW...
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Really? If you hate this game and hate the company and hate the community so much, go find another game. You're obviously not willing to roll with the punches of a luxury commodity's adaptation to a difficult economy. Whining about stuff won't make things better. Why not do something to be part of a solution than the problem?
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Really? If you hate this game and hate the company and hate the community so much, go find another game. You're obviously not willing to roll with the punches of a luxury commodity's adaptation to a difficult economy. Whining about stuff won't make things better. Why not do something to be part of a solution than the problem?
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Really? If you hate this game and hate the company and hate the community so much, go find another game. You're obviously not willing to roll with the punches of a luxury commodity's adaptation to a difficult economy. Whining about stuff won't make things better. Why not do something to be part of a solution than the problem?
Go play solitaire....
The new game we can play is .. "Who stole my chill pills?"
A completely new game mechanic meaning all codecies are updated and rewritten. You require a super quantum laser gizmo to play the game, but because it's built by nasa, it will cost you £1000. Enjoy!
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Really? If you hate this game and hate the company and hate the community so much, go find another game. You're obviously not willing to roll with the punches of a luxury commodity's adaptation to a difficult economy. Whining about stuff won't make things better. Why not do something to be part of a solution than the problem?
Go play solitaire....
Love the game hate the company, the community is full of decet people. Go find another game? not that easy when you have been playing/collecting for 13 years and all other companies minis are (imo) boring looking, the games dont look half as much fun as 40k and WHFB and its gaining new friends or convincing others to join a new game.
As to being part of the solution and not the problem what is the solution? buy direct from GW and spend more money? no that is no solution, the solution is lower prices be more of a competative company, lower prices people buy more, new people will start the game and not be put off by insane high prices, you wont lose your long time supporters and most of all you keep your customers happy. An unhappy customer wont be your customer for long.
SilverMK2 wrote:They will switch all their produce to rapidly degenerating plastic so they only actually last a month before disintergrating, forcing you to buy new replacement models.
GW sues Privateer Press, Fantasy Flight Games, Hasslefree Miniatures, Reaper Miniatures, and Sodapop Miniatures for infringing on their copyright of "35mm scale wargaming figures for futuristic space combat."
Maybe wargear cards that would need purchasing seperately? £8 per powerfist? £5 per power sword, certainly nerf those OP Banshees....
Turning codicies into an exclusively online resource along with the FAQs that require a monthly subscription to access.
Ow I could actually see them doing that.....(in a few years)
Agreed, I was actually serious about that one while the one I made earlier about peeing in cereal wasn't. WOTC is doing something like that already with their D&D line but you still have access to the physical copy in most cases (although I believe I read that some of this years planned releases were turned into digital only offerings). As small, powerful devices like tablets and even some cellphones get more ubiquitous, the cheaper distribution method of just sending electrons down the internet directly to the consumer instead of paying middlemen like printers/shippers/retailers becomes more appealing to some companies.
1) Gamesday being by invitation only and only if you can prove that all your purchases come from their stores.
2) Special paint scanners at competitions to make sure that only GW paints were used to paint minis.
3) Models (regardless of weapons) that are more than 5 years old are banned. Only new models allowed.
4) Lie detector instore to check if you have been posting complaints about GW online. If you have you will be shot. But will still be obliged to buy models from their store afterwards.
5) Quietly ejected from Gamesday for voicing your opinions about the high prices.
Slipstream wrote:1)
3) Models (regardless of weapons) that are more than 5 years old are banned. Only new models allowed.
The last one I believe will happen.
Number 3 is actually very easy to implement unfortunately. They simply need to publish a line in their tourney packet that says only current in-print models or conversions based on them are allowed... that's it.
They will add crack dust to the new resin fine cast mini's, meaning you get more and more addicted with every purchase you make.....making more and more money until eventually they will become some sort of Shadowrun conglomerate, intent on ruling the world with thier army of crack addled hobbyists......
Players going to a GW store will be required to produce a receipt for all of their models, proving they did not get them from eBay or an online discounter.
Breotan wrote:Players going to a GW store will be required to produce a receipt for all of their models, proving they did not get them from eBay or an online discounter.
Scary thought there. Kind of 'Big Brother' for geeks.
Note: NOT the terrible and happily defunct show on C4, rather the Orwellian freaky future kind.....
Aside from next weeks price increase, I expect them to charge admission to go into the hollowed halls of the Battle Bunkers, cover charges and Doormen at the GW shops, and a audit for players who come in and actually buy things in there.
In the marketing front, I heard it on source that GW is moving production material from Resin... to gold.
Rules will still be sketchy, but there will be one of the new FAQ's that addresses real life combat modifiers, and armor saves. Your models will be replaced by contractors from Blackwater.
I also predict that The Second Coming will show us that it there really is an Emperor who the price increase was demanded from.
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Really? If you hate this game and hate the company and hate the community so much, go find another game. You're obviously not willing to roll with the punches of a luxury commodity's adaptation to a difficult economy. Whining about stuff won't make things better. Why not do something to be part of a solution than the problem?
The current array of bad news in regards to GW seem to be affecting nearly all aspects of the GW hobby (embargo, price, WD etc).
I predict GW's next “wacky” decision would be gradually phasing out production on more older armies such as Chaos Space Marines and Eldar. I can see GW’s justification as damage control in the form of pushing more SM releases.
candy.man wrote:The current array of bad news in regards to GW seem to be affecting nearly all aspects of the GW hobby (embargo, price, WD etc).
I predict GW's next “wacky” decision would be gradually phasing out production on more older armies such as Chaos Space Marines and Eldar. I can see GW’s justification as damage control in the form of pushing more SM releases.
Mat Ward's favourite dream: Every single Xenos race becoming an Ultramarine.
And every single Chapter and Legion. And Hive Fleet.
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Really? If you hate this game and hate the company and hate the community so much, go find another game. You're obviously not willing to roll with the punches of a luxury commodity's adaptation to a difficult economy. Whining about stuff won't make things better. Why not do something to be part of a solution than the problem?
Go play solitaire....
Just leave GW alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry it took me so long to post on this, I spent most of the day laughin that he actually called plastic toys a "luxury commodity". Son, a luxury commodity is gold or pearls or hell, even high-grade coffee, it is NOT plastic toy soldiers.
This:
Is not the same as this:
Please slap yourself repeatedly until the GW koolade you've been drinking wears off.
A GW licence will be required to play. When you make a purchase you will be obliged to to send the correct addresses of gaming locations at which they will be used. GW will have Detector Vans trolling around just to make sure. (Black Shirts just became very sinister)
Fanboys will write to WD's, "Points of View" letters page (Renamed LoS as GW never steal other bod's concepts): "Dear Terry, The game I played last night was way cool dude. The licence fee is worth every penny!! I would gladly pay £5,000 for the licence. Yours sincerely, Marcel Bootlick"
The next generation of figures will only be available from GW's website as printable PDFs, which, to be legal, must be printed on fine quality citadel papers, also available from the website.
You might laugh but what better way to help GW customers with the price than to issue GW store cards, this way you can buy the miniatures you cant afford and pay the money back at a measly 47% interest.
I can actually see this happen as it's so common with large retailers in the UK
GW will tattoo a barcode onto your forehead which will be scanned with every purchase not just taking cash directly from your bank but a piece of your soul as well. (minus the tattoo this already happens)
Make random and illogical business decisions causing the share price to collapse. Knee jerk reaction of the owners to sell their holdings short of their true value allowing GW to buy back thier busisness at a knock down price.....
AndrewC wrote:Make random and illogical business decisions causing the share price to collapse. Knee jerk reaction of the owners to sell their holdings short of their true value allowing GW to buy back thier busisness at a knock down price.....
Nah, thats almost sensible.
Cheers
Andrew
Share price is climbing and has been since they announced dividends....that's what shareholders like (me included). Now if the dividends stop and it's attributable to these business decisions.....that's another story but it won't happen until the next 1/2 year report, if then.
agnosto wrote:Share price is climbing and has been since they announced dividends....that's what shareholders like (me included). Now if the dividends stop and it's attributable to these business decisions.....that's another story but it won't happen until the next 1/2 year report, if then.
Can they really afford to pay dividends? After all, doesn't Kirby own a fifth of them, all he's doing is paying himself. If anything that should set off alarms not give stock holders confidence.
Can they really afford to pay dividends? After all, doesn't Kirby own a fifth of them, all he's doing is paying himself. If anything that should set off alarms not give stock holders confidence.
Welcome to CEOs. Stocks crumbling 2 years later matters not if you made your billions
Howard A Treesong wrote:
Can they really afford to pay dividends? After all, doesn't Kirby own a fifth of them, all he's doing is paying himself. If anything that should set off alarms not give stock holders confidence.
Yep. I'm getting dividends soon; it was announced last month and I should see mine any day now. Granted it's only 20p (pence) per share but hey, free money's always good and the bump in stock price lately is an added bonus. I'll probably sell next week and buy again after the stock slumps in the fall (my guess).
Want to know some things about Kirby?
Tom H. F. Kirby served the Chief Executive Officer of Games Workshop Group PLC from September 2000 to December 3, 2007. Mr. Kirby joined Games Workshop in April 1986 as General Manager and led the management buy-out in December 1991. Prior to joining Games Workshop, he worked for six years for a distributor of fantasy games in the UK and was an Inspector of Taxes. He has been Chairman of Games Workshop Group plc since September 2000. From 1998 to 2000, he served as Non ... Executive Chairman of Games Workshop Group plc. He serves as an Executive Director at Games Workshop Group plc. Mr. Kirby is Visiting Professor of Business and Management to the Derbyshire Business School at the University of Derby. Total Calculated Compensation 438,000 GBp
I really want this guy's job. He's earning that much to run a toy soldier business into the ground? Sign me up!
Howard A Treesong wrote:Is that £483K before the dividend payout that someone mentioned on another thread bagged him well over £300K?
Strewth, and this company has been laying people off.
He's making 393,000pounds before stock and other compensation; the total is 438k.
Wells makes 280k.
Rountree makes 163k
Yeah, overpaid; especially when you consider the President of Toyota only makes about 1million (USD)/year and runs a company that's easily 300% larger.
My predictions:
#1. All of the current plastic production will switch over to Finecast resin.
#2. GW will sell official GW dust masks once it's revealed that the new Finecast resin does indeed cause cancer. They won't change the formula because, "that would compromise the artistry of the models."
#3. GW will continue to protect their IP by publishing 5 'official' pictures of each model in different stages of painting. Any other pictures violate the IP, and will result in legal action threatened.
#4. Cease & Desist letters get handed out like candy at Easter/Halloween.
GW are set to release new versions of the basic troop types:
In each boxed set there are enough components to make one soldier and equipment to kit them out any way you choose.
For example the new Space Marine box set will come with:
2 head variants.
Torso.
2 leg variants.
Set of arms.
Scope.
2 Combat Knife variants.
Holstered pistol
Auspex.
Grenades.
Purity seals, parchments, scrolls & Terminator Honours.
and plastic foliage and rocks to texture its base.
1 x round plastic base.
At £6.97 per set this new product will offer exceptional value for money.
Howard A Treesong wrote:Introduce a GW store card with a 40% APR.
Scrap Specialist Games for good.
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agnosto wrote:Share price is climbing and has been since they announced dividends....that's what shareholders like (me included). Now if the dividends stop and it's attributable to these business decisions.....that's another story but it won't happen until the next 1/2 year report, if then.
Can they really afford to pay dividends? After all, doesn't Kirby own a fifth of them, all he's doing is paying himself. If anything that should set off alarms not give stock holders confidence.
I can see them scrapping Specialists Games.
BFG: The rules are too characterful and fun. SCRAPPED.
Blood Bowl: Too much zany silliness. Whoever heard of a skeleton with a chainsaw? SCRAPPED.
Epic/Warmaster: We buried the master moulds under a mountain of cocaine and space marines. SCRAPPED.
Inquisitor: Giant space marines? Ha! SCRAPPED.
Necromunda: Not enough space marines. SCRAPPED.
Mordenheim: Matt Ward can't find Mordenheim on a globe so ... SCRAPPED.
In addition to the current "point of sale" model for their miniatures, GW will move to a subscription model for their rules and game. You will no longer be allowed to use their figures in games and events other than your local GW hobby store, including "friendly games" that may or may not take place in your private residence.
Breotan wrote:In addition to the current "point of sale" model for their miniatures, GW will move to a subscription model for their rules and game. You will no longer be allowed to use their figures in games and events other than your local GW hobby store, including "friendly games" that may or may not take place in your private residence.
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the obvious strategy:
All models will be sold in unmarked packaging with no way to tell what is in the package. All packages will cost the same as the highest priced item available and there will be no refunds or returns allowed. Furthermore all figures will be one to a package.
Steelmage99 wrote:I think GW will simply refuse to sell to online-only stores as it "hurts The Hobby".
They kind of do this in the US. US online stores aren't allowed to sell GW stuff via a shopping cart. Many get around this by going through a distributor or other methods.
agnosto, call me cynical if you want, but did GW's shares not rocket when they released the LoTR range? Well the next installment is coming along isn't it?
Now the last couple of years, GW hasn't been that free with its money preferring to use it to clear some of the debt and make itself cash rich to withstand any drop in retail sales and allow it to survive.
Create a couple of lean years for itself through trade embargoes and above inflation price rises, watch their shares drop, purchase on the cheap and if/when they get the Hobbit licence their value rockets again.
Yeah I know cynical, but don't be so quick to sell those shares.
They will drop their prices to $5 a kit with free accessories with every order and they will give me free stuff to repay me for all the money I paid them.
LordofHats wrote:They will drop their prices to $5 a kit with free accessories with every order and they will give me free stuff to repay me for all the money I paid them.
You aren't taking this thread seriously
any more nonsense about price reductions and GW giving stuff away in recompense will leave me no other option but to alert the mods.
I have a few predictions I feel are quite realistic.
1: annual price rises will continue but cover less of the range at once. vehicles one year, flyers and small units the next, finecast after that, etc.
2: even more furious protection of the IP. small companies can be issued C&D orders but 3d printing will eventually be available to the public at office depot or something and gw will have problems with basic parts and mods being made. more savvy companies can even dodge the lawyers with generic products.
3: specialist games will be gone soon, rulebooks may be available direct only for a while though.
4: the hobbit will make a smaller lotr bubble to give the executives a false sense of accomplishment for a few years.
5: lotr ranges discontinued to boost sales of the struggling hobbit game as the aforementioned bubble bursts.
6: (this is getting 5-6 years ahead and is far less likely to be accurate) global economic changes and shifts in buying patterns put gw in hard times and it is bought out/taken over by a chinese corporation/international toy company.
LordofHats wrote:They will drop their prices to $5 a kit with free accessories with every order and they will give me free stuff to repay me for all the money I paid them.
You aren't taking this thread seriously
any more nonsense about price reductions and GW giving stuff away in recompense will leave me no other option but to alert the mods.
call me cynical if you want, but did GW's shares not rocket when they released the LoTR range? Well the next installment is coming along isn't it?
Now the last couple of years, GW hasn't been that free with its money preferring to use it to clear some of the debt and make itself cash rich to withstand any drop in retail sales and allow it to survive.
Create a couple of lean years for itself through trade embargoes and above inflation price rises, watch their shares drop, purchase on the cheap and if/when they get the Hobbit licence their value rockets again.
Yeah I know cynical, but don't be so quick to sell those shares.
LordofHats wrote:They will drop their prices to $5 a kit with free accessories with every order and they will give me free stuff to repay me for all the money I paid them.
You aren't taking this thread seriously
any more nonsense about price reductions and GW giving stuff away in recompense will leave me no other option but to alert the mods.
Now stop being silly!
Although it is a jolly good idea!
No, see, the $5 thing will happen. Only it'll be when GW is spiraling out of control and is slashing prices across the board so the Execs can grab bit more cash.
Furthermore, you will only be able to find these prices at the GW brick and mortar stores.
And the Red Shirt is required - by company rules - to kick you in the crotch as you leave.
AndrewC wrote:agnosto, call me cynical if you want, but did GW's shares not rocket when they released the LoTR range? Well the next installment is coming along isn't it?
Now the last couple of years, GW hasn't been that free with its money preferring to use it to clear some of the debt and make itself cash rich to withstand any drop in retail sales and allow it to survive.
Create a couple of lean years for itself through trade embargoes and above inflation price rises, watch their shares drop, purchase on the cheap and if/when they get the Hobbit licence their value rockets again.
Yeah I know cynical, but don't be so quick to sell those shares.
Cheers
Andrew
You may be right. I was thinking more short term, as most stocks drop a bit after a dividend payout and the short concerns take their money elsewhere. I may hang on to my shares a bit and see what happens. I've taken a beating here recently since Citibank did their reverse stock split...ick, talk about ill-advised.
2 years, GW introduces Eavy Metal Masterpieces. Many of the characters you love that are produced in "finecast" will be availible in white metal at a very reasonable collectors price.
5 years from now when everyone own 3d printers, GW will release Space marine templates that will only print 10 marines using GW's Printcast resin. Then Mareens v mareens until the end of days.
snurl wrote:The next generation of figures will only be available from GW's website as printable PDFs, which, to be legal, must be printed on fine quality citadel papers, also available from the website.
I would like to see this as I like paperhammer....
They will close all Local retailers and Gw stores. The only way to get Gw is to travel first class to Nottingham, while juggling landmines, and drinking turtle piss.
Automatically Appended Next Post: They willalso add a blow dryer to every paint pot, so as soon as you open it, it starts to dry, forcing you to paint crappy models, and buying more. Plus it makes their armies look better.
Gw will, upon purchase of models, administer testicular clamps, and clip the chain to their cash register. every time someone else buys a model before you do, the drawer will open, and the "tug" will remind you to shell out money.
this process will be repeated until you've relenquished your jewels, or they run out of clamps and let you go.
oh, that's easy. it will be a five pronged attack:
1) they'll raise the price of models, i'll have go to ebay and fellow dakkanauts to buy them.
2) they'll produce a low grade paint that dries up in a matter of a few months, so I'll go to cote d'arms (which never dries up) and vallejo for a quality product.
3) they'll start charging 30-50 dollars for a 12 dollar codex, so i'll download or buy used any reading materials i want.
4) ???*
5) Profit
*I think ??? indicates people paying full retail for the above three products, then coming on the internet to bitch about it.
You won't be able to buy models without first taking out an annual subscription to WD.
If you cannot subsequently prove you are already subscribed...
tough bubbies pal.
I am starting to get concerned that GW could be reading this thread and thinking, "ooo nice idea."
and then we will only have ourselves to blame for the pain.
Well in that case... gw will then try to tame a nest of african killer bees in every shop. To be store manager they must place said nest in underpants for a day. They will also drink the juice from elephant crap. And burn their expert painted armies. Now those are GOOD ideas!
Trouble is they are only the messengers, Midnight.
I have heard that for a company to be successful the CEO and his managerial chumsters should dance naked in a busy road on the night of a full moon. Having smeared chilli paste and mustard all over themselves.
This is guaranteed to raise share prices by at least 500%
Picaddily Circus or Marble Arch would be ideal venues.
They will put sensors in their models so if you use anything non-GW to convert they will burst into flames. Also, Matt Ward will find your mom and punch her in the face repeatedly until you only have SM armies.
No home-made terrain allowed. From now on all games must use GW sanctioned terrain.
-no shoe boxes
-no foam board
-no non GW buildings
-no getting out of the store without a brain slug that monitors you for hat wearing & unsanctioned terrain.
-if you use homemade buildings, terrain, or tables and the brain-slug finds out(he reads thoughts) as stormtroopers squad will storm the home, confiscate all models, burn terrain to cinders, and bill you for the fuel costs of the chopper.
-If you use models non-GW for 40k or FB purposes see above punishment.
Their next masterstroke? Painting services, with "high quality, 'eavy metal members" doing the deed. You put in an order for a box of _____________, and pay a gakload more to get them barely painted with the right-ish colors sloppily applied by some factory worker/machine, and receive the models 12 weeks later. Oh, and only one color scheme per model. And space marines are ultramarines. No exceptions.
The super secret game to be released this Fall is an updated version of Trolls in the Pantry. The cassette will be replaced with a CD so you can hear the silly songs in high fidelity.
spaceelf wrote:The super secret game to be released this Fall is an updated version of Trolls in the Pantry. The cassette will be replaced with a CD so you can hear the silly songs in high fidelity.
Genius, I look forward to it
I suspect they will soon shut down their website completely and announce new releases via a village bill board in the Outer Hebrides.
What will happen:
1. Continuing annual price rises
2. Cheaper and cheaper manufacturing processes which take the overall quality of the product further and further down.
3. People will continue to pay to have their back doors smashed in
4. People will continue to complain about it
What I want to happen:
1. GW raise their prices
2. Customers finally decide, as one, to show GW what they think of their practices and go else where taking their money with them
3. GW's revenue quickly dries up
4. GW pulls it back from the brink and start treating their customer base like human beings again
5. GW and customers live happily ever after
INB4 whiney git: I bought my army at discount, from ebay or second hand - Onlly buy supplies from GW. Even then I feel like I'm being kicked in the balls.
1. Plastic infantry boxes drop from 10 men to 5. Boxes do however include all the unit options. Price per model increases with the added bits used as the justification.
2. 6th edition 40k recommends a 8'x4' table and 2500 points per side.
3. 6th edition codexes complete transition to vehicle squadrons becoming the norm, and almost all units requiring a transport to be effective. Tank prices hiked.
4. LotR re-pushed with the release of the Hobbit.
5. All 40k/LotR/WHFB tournaments must be GW sanctioned. This means an IP policeman will be on hand to make sure all models are 100% GW. Tournaments must pay for this policeman, driving up ticket prices. Units must be the most recent version.
Medium Term:
1. All codexes and rulebooks move to digital format. Rules regularly updated to ensure the best army / best units change so people have to keep buying different models. Pay £10 a month to receive updates. Allows GW to easily insert new units into codexes for you to buy. Codexes include adverts for new models. You can pay £20 to have a codex printed and bound online, but that codex will be outdated in a few months.
2. Starter sets include pre-painted pre-assembled models. Troops units for all armies made available pre-painted. Prices for non-pre painted units increase as they are 'Customisable for the true hobbiest'.
3. More aggressive pursuit of video game adaptations and the released of a 3D animated kids TV show.
4. All online retailers must charge at least GW's RRP to ensure 'it's fair to brick and mortar stores'.
5. Facebook app to allow bragging about your army is in fact advertising in disguise.
Long Term:
1. 3D printing means units are printed to order in GW stores. Massive price hike for this 'amazing new technology'. All models have serial numbers printed on them so recasts can be traced back to the original for prosecution. (serial number printed across model's face so it cant be removed without ruining the model)
2. Pay more for units with special / heavy weapons. Pay more for unique poses. Pay more for hair styles. Pay less for ultramarines symbols.
3. Printed units come with a unit card required for play that includes their rules. Wanting to change their wargear requires a whole new unit to be printed.
4. Results of a game can be fed into a website, and your unit cards get reprinted to show the unit's history and to show how a unit has improved if they survive. (for a modest fee)
5. GW stores no longer staffed, completely automated.
6th edition 40k will nerf vehicles, forcing the use of larger footslogging armies
melta will also be nerfed, and plasma will be buffed, forcing another change
all GW products will be sold as 'Bitz' of 1.50 a bit, puting online bit stores out of buisness and driving up model cost, that lone imperial gaurdsman you wanted, he now costs £7.50
GW will buy out all the websites that have forums like this, close them down, and simply redirect views to their main site for all the latest to the minute price increases in the future.
Also, all domain names even remotely related to their IP will be bought and become their property, thus making any future website address for GW related hobbies something along these lines:
Any use of the following will be contested by GW as infringing its IP:
War Hammer 40 K Fantasy Battles Terrain and all terms pertaining to tabletop terrain such as trees, walls, hedges etc Codex Army Book and so on and so forth.
Noone has done that one before, so its a new one. How about a 25% price rise on all price rises to account for raising standards of production by moving to resin which is 25% better quality. Makes sense doesnt it.
GW increases Finecast prices by 25% across the board next year, because they've found a way to make their detail EVEN MOAR AMAZING!! Models remain exactly the same.
GW sues the internet. All of it.
Tired of their LGSs and their "free-riding", GW only sells product via their website and retail stores. Retail outlets continue to close.
We know how much you value our wonderful unique and exciting world. So you will now have the amazing chance to get greater value. As well as paying for the model, you will now also pay for EVERY SKULL on each model, as every SKULL adds to the Games Workshop gaming experience you love so much.
Expect even MORE exciting SKULLZ on your favourite, cool Games Workshop models for even more tabletop fun!
Orlanth wrote:How about a price rise, on a price rise.
Noone has done that one before, so its a new one. How about a 25% price rise on all price rises to account for raising standards of production by moving to resin which is 25% better quality. Makes sense doesnt it.
I think you meant to say the second price rise is to cover the cost of the staff changing the prices on the boxes from the first raise.
I'm guessing the stats for all units will be removed from the army books and replaced with packs of sealed, random, stat cards (CCG style) and you need a separate stat card for each unit in your army.
raincity wrote:I think we can expect the same thing to happen to 40k as what happened to whfb, rules will be changed to increase product sales.. unit sizes will increase, points will decrease, gws terrain will have effects and the game will become less about planning and tactics to win games and more about whoever has bought the most to win..
Too late, already happened, its called 8th edition.
raincity wrote:I think we can expect the same thing to happen to 40k as what happened to whfb, rules will be changed to increase product sales.. unit sizes will increase, points will decrease, gws terrain will have effects and the game will become less about planning and tactics to win games and more about whoever has bought the most to win..
Too late, already happened, its called 8th edition.
Um read the post at all?? He already mentioned 8th ed and is expecting it to carry over onto 40k
Pre painted plastics would be corporate suicide. Then again, GW has had numerous accounts of corporate suicide over the years and is still alive (and probably will continue to do so, even after the embargo and FailCast nonsense).
Perhaps, as a corporate entity, GW is unliving? Me thinks we need to vote with a shotgun rather than our wallets.
candy.man wrote:Pre painted plastics would be corporate suicide. Then again, GW has had numerous accounts of corporate suicide over the years and is still alive (and probably will continue to do so, even after the embargo and FailCast nonsense).
Perhaps, as a corporate entity, GW is unliving? Me thinks we need to vote with a shotgun rather than our wallets.
Actually, no. Prepaints wouldn't be that bad. Prepaints of troops like goblins or skaven would be a stroke of genius. Of course, it's a matter of price. My guess would be that cheaper PPs with less details would sell like a blowjobmachine that prints money. The original, unpainted ones should stay, of course. And you should stay away from anything bigger than the mass troops...
Anyway...my predictions?
Another two or three 10-20% rises until 2013.
Removal of metal bits packs.
Putting down the SGs entirely.
A bunch of campaign books 30€ a pop for The Hobbit, Re-Re-Re-Release of the fellowshop and Gandalf and Aragorn No. 12, both of which will cost 17,50€/1.
candy.man wrote:Pre painted plastics would be corporate suicide. Then again, GW has had numerous accounts of corporate suicide over the years and is still alive (and probably will continue to do so, even after the embargo and FailCast nonsense).
Perhaps, as a corporate entity, GW is unliving? Me thinks we need to vote with a shotgun rather than our wallets.
Actually, no. Prepaints wouldn't be that bad. Prepaints of troops like goblins or skaven would be a stroke of genius. Of course, it's a matter of price. My guess would be that cheaper PPs with less details would sell like a blowjobmachine that prints money. The original, unpainted ones should stay, of course. And you should stay away from anything bigger than the mass troops...
Anyway...my predictions?
Another two or three 10-20% rises until 2013.
Removal of metal bits packs.
Putting down the SGs entirely.
A bunch of campaign books 30€ a pop for The Hobbit, Re-Re-Re-Release of the fellowshop and Gandalf and Aragorn No. 12, both of which will cost 17,50€/1.
PPP Troops would be a good idea, in theory.
However, you know what they say about the difference between Theory and Practice.
GW would propably make the PPP more expensive than the regular kits and then wonder why they didnt sell like hot cakes. Perhaps they would sell when players are rushing a Tournament list, but I cannot see any need for these myself.
It would then be typical GW to phase out the regular kits, leaving ONLY PPP, in order to drive sales of the more expensive box.
candy.man wrote:Pre painted plastics would be corporate suicide. Then again, GW has had numerous accounts of corporate suicide over the years and is still alive (and probably will continue to do so, even after the embargo and FailCast nonsense).
Perhaps, as a corporate entity, GW is unliving? Me thinks we need to vote with a shotgun rather than our wallets.
Actually, no. Prepaints wouldn't be that bad. Prepaints of troops like goblins or skaven would be a stroke of genius. Of course, it's a matter of price. My guess would be that cheaper PPs with less details would sell like a blowjobmachine that prints money. The original, unpainted ones should stay, of course. And you should stay away from anything bigger than the mass troops...
Anyway...my predictions? Another two or three 10-20% rises until 2013. Removal of metal bits packs. Putting down the SGs entirely. A bunch of campaign books 30€ a pop for The Hobbit, Re-Re-Re-Release of the fellowshop and Gandalf and Aragorn No. 12, both of which will cost 17,50€/1.
PPP Troops would be a good idea, in theory.
However, you know what they say about the difference between Theory and Practice.
GW would propably make the PPP more expensive than the regular kits and then wonder why they didnt sell like hot cakes. Perhaps they would sell when players are rushing a Tournament list, but I cannot see any need for these myself.
It would then be typical GW to phase out the regular kits, leaving ONLY PPP, in order to drive sales of the more expensive box.
Oh, this is gonna give many nightmares.
If they do that then a fair few of their buyers are goin to move onto other games as painting and modelling can be a big part of the hobby for them.
Step 1. Go back to metal, tell to use some kind of new and super improved casting process and double the prices. Leave some of the Finecast products to be available, change the name to Finestcast and triple the price.
Step 2. Stop retail sell completely. Nobody is allowed to see or touch products without buying them. Get the prices up more because of the lost sales.
Step 3. Release one figure per year, costing one trillion pounds. Needs only one customer and no need of any service, sales folks or web sites. Lay off all staff expect one. Get stock people very happy.
Slipstream wrote:
4) Lie detector instore to check if you have been posting complaints about GW online. If you have you will be shot. But will still be obliged to buy models from their store afterwards.
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Surviving Family members will be offered(reguired to purchess) FineCast Resin Coffin or Urn in one of two stylish designs.* The 40K "UltraMarine" or the WFB "Ultra Empire Marine". "Purity Seals" will be an additional cost (minimum 1). To aviod Legal action the family must purchess the decesed (pre death) weight in FineCast minitures in addition to the Coffin/Urn purchess.
GW will release a Kindel/Nook device with propietary software making amazon/B&N/other book/word programs unsusable on their device. All Codexs will be required, auto charged downloads at the resonable cost of $35 per download. This includes updates, errata and FAQ's. BL will have a similar device, the two devices will NOT be compatable. The BL device can (MUST) be upgraded to play the BL Audio novels for a small fee. The required "Mecanicum Audio Imersion!" headphone set will be avaliable for purchess soon,you cant listen to BL audio books without it (Literaly no other headphones will fit the jack plug)! Keep a look out for our shipping anouncement soonish!
Nicorex wrote:Surviving Family members will be offered(reguired to purchess) FineCast Resin Coffin or Urn in one of two stylish designs.* The 40K "UltraMarine" or the WFB "Ultra Empire Marine". "Purity Seals" will be an additional cost (minimum 1).
Each GW online store order of $100 or more will now come with a free dead puppy, along with a "before" photo and a piece of the bat used to smash its brains in.
Slipstream wrote:
4) Lie detector instore to check if you have been posting complaints about GW online. If you have you will be shot. But will still be obliged to buy models from their store afterwards.
.
Surviving Family members will be offered(reguired to purchess) FineCast Resin Coffin or Urn in one of two stylish designs.* The 40K "UltraMarine" or the WFB "Ultra Empire Marine". "Purity Seals" will be an additional cost (minimum 1). To aviod Legal action the family must purchess the decesed (pre death) weight in FineCast minitures in addition to the Coffin/Urn purchess.
GW will release a Kindel/Nook device with propietary software making amazon/B&N/other book/word programs unsusable on their device. All Codexs will be required, auto charged downloads at the resonable cost of $35 per download. This includes updates, errata and FAQ's. BL will have a similar device, the two devices will NOT be compatable. The BL device can (MUST) be upgraded to play the BL Audio novels for a small fee. The required "Mecanicum Audio Imersion!" headphone set will be avaliable for purchess soon,you cant listen to BL audio books without it (Literaly no other headphones will fit the jack plug)! Keep a look out for our shipping anouncement soonish!
*(A TRUE Hobbiest would get both!)
Don't forget, the Australian version costs twice as much, and the New Zealand version thrice.
- Lawsuit against Mantic.
- 5 model boxes for everything, priced at £20-25.
- Everything metal converted to finecast. Issues with miscasts do not improve.
- White Dwarf up to £5
- Army books up to £25-£30.
- All battleforces/ battalions raised to £70, with £80 worth of models in them.
- Banning independent retailers from selling at a discount from RRP.
- Specialist Games removed from sale.
I decided to keep my list realistic because it's scarier that way.
scarletsquig wrote: - Lawsuit against Mantic.
- 5 model boxes for everything, priced at £20-25.
- Everything metal converted to finecast. Issues with miscasts do not improve.
- White Dwarf up to £5
- Army books up to £25-£30.
- All battleforces/ battalions raised to £70, with £80 worth of models in them.
- Banning independent retailers from selling at a discount from RRP.
- Specialist Games removed from sale.
I decided to keep my list realistic because it's scarier that way.
Damn straight, I reckin 2-3 years out we'll see 90% of this..
scarletsquig wrote: - Lawsuit against Mantic.
- 5 model boxes for everything, priced at £20-25.
- Everything metal converted to finecast. Issues with miscasts do not improve.
- White Dwarf up to £5
- Army books up to £25-£30.
- All battleforces/ battalions raised to £70, with £80 worth of models in them.
- Banning independent retailers from selling at a discount from RRP.
- Specialist Games removed from sale.
I decided to keep my list realistic because it's scarier that way.
Damn straight, I reckin 2-3 years out we'll see 90% of this..
They will change the world RRP to reflect Australian and NZ prices
They will not sell to any internet seller, anywhere, only theirs
They will abolish paper books and codex... and deliver all on eBook... the new GW eBook reader (5 inch screen, B&W, and not compatible with any other style)
And yes, I agree, they will be a BL eBook reader... not compatable with the GW one
scarletsquig wrote: - Lawsuit against Mantic.
- 5 model boxes for everything, priced at £20-25.
- Everything metal converted to finecast. Issues with miscasts do not improve.
- White Dwarf up to £5
- Army books up to £25-£30.
- All battleforces/ battalions raised to £70, with £80 worth of models in them.
- Banning independent retailers from selling at a discount from RRP.
- Specialist Games removed from sale.
I decided to keep my list realistic because it's scarier that way.
You forgot something triple the price of paint pots.
I reckon there's a good chance paint will hit £3.00 a pot next year, they always trump out rising oil prices as a reason for price rises so I'm guessing they just haven't figured out that both the pots and paint are made from oil lol
GWHQ will declare itself a sovereign nation and the company that is GW will be declared "Emporer for life".
GW will attempt to sue the Vatican for the inquisition because it was not sanctioned by GW.
In addition, they will microchip their models and require you to register with the GW store you bought them at upon purchase. This way, if at anytime they find the models are in a different location without the proper transfer forms filled you will be taken to court for being in direct competition with GW and their stores.
All transfer forms can be acquired with a purchase of $1500 or more at a GW store. Failure to purchase enough for a transfer form will result in an arrest warrant, in your name, for "possession with intent to resell".
raincity wrote:I think we can expect the same thing to happen to 40k as what happened to whfb, rules will be changed to increase product sales.. unit sizes will increase, points will decrease, gws terrain will have effects and the game will become less about planning and tactics to win games and more about whoever has bought the most to win..
Too late, already happened, its called 8th edition.
Um read the post at all?? He already mentioned 8th ed and is expecting it to carry over onto 40k
It already DID, it was called 3rd ed.
2nd was more a skirmish game, 3rd pushed the armies to double or triple in size by massively dropping the points costs(and a LOT of options).
Upon the invention of the time machine, GW uses it not to go back and fix their mistakes, but rather to go to ancient times and register copyrights on roman numerals, chevrons, greek alphabet, and skulls. Especially skulls.
GW realises that they are not capitalising on the Tape Measure market nearly enough, and decides that all new games are to be written using High Gothic Inches - the approximate diameter of a bolter round, and markets a line of measuring instruments accordingly.
Also, GW continues to fight off ebooks by making their codexes increasingly difficult to use. Instead of units having rules on two or three pages, GW splits each codex into three books. The stats book has every units S on one page, T on the next, etc etc. Points costs are revealed upon retina scan and are spoken aloud so they do not end up in print. They ignore the fact that annoying to read books are very simply pasted together in Acrobat.
SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Really? If you hate this game and hate the company and hate the community so much, go find another game. You're obviously not willing to roll with the punches of a luxury commodity's adaptation to a difficult economy. Whining about stuff won't make things better. Why not do something to be part of a solution than the problem?
Go play solitaire....
Just leave GW alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry it took me so long to post on this, I spent most of the day laughin that he actually called plastic toys a "luxury commodity". Son, a luxury commodity is gold or pearls or hell, even high-grade coffee, it is NOT plastic toy soldiers.
This:
Is not the same as this:
Please slap yourself repeatedly until the GW koolade you've been drinking wears off.
That is all.
I clicked on this and thought this was another price rise thread, hmm I wonder if GW models actually cost the same as their own weight in gold...
