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Post by: SirAngry
Hi everyone, not too sure if this is going into the right thread / topic area but it seemed as good a place as any. Just wanted to let everyone know that Sarissa Precision are doing a new range of HDF futuristic scenery suitable for use in modern skirmish games such as Infinity or Necromunda, but I can seen uses in other game systems too such as 40k for some of it. I'm in no way affiliated to Sarissa Precission, you can find more info on my blog here:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8538
and you can find Sarissa's website here:
http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/
Thanks
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Post by: Fafnir
Hmmm...
Could be useful...
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Post by: Mutley
Oh this looks good. Do want.
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Post by: Captain Jack
These look great! I really glad that they didn't go the Blue route and produce something indistinguishable at first glance to a Micro version (yeah that was a dig, he he he). Adam at Maelstrom has been promised a board for his Infinity intros, and I and a few others have been quite keen to see how these come out. Colour me very impressed, nice shapes with lots of thought gone into the design and extra elements to increase variety. I can't wait to see it all in person and find out if reality matches the images!
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Post by: SirAngry
Captain Jack wrote:These look great! I really glad that they didn't go the Blue route and produce something indistinguishable at first glance to a Micro version (yeah that was a dig, he he he). Adam at Maelstrom has been promised a board for his Infinity intros, and I and a few others have been quite keen to see how these come out. Colour me very impressed, nice shapes with lots of thought gone into the design and extra elements to increase variety. I can't wait to see it all in person and find out if reality matches the images!
Well you'll be getting some photo's in reviews over the next few days. Are you near the Maelstrom? If so I might be tempted to bring some of this stuff down there so you can see it in the flesh.
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Post by: Aduro
Could be good. Hoping it's not disappointingly expensive like some of the other HDF stuff that's been advertised.
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Post by: Erasoketa
The 15mm WW2 buildings and the movement trays are very interesting...
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Post by: Necros
They're stuff is really great. I got a few of their heroic wild west buildings for my game and they work great. They snap together pretty easily, you could take them apart for transporting if you want but I decided to glue mine together. They're a good deal and they ship fast too, even to the US
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Post by: Captain Jack
SirAngry wrote:Well you'll be getting some photo's in reviews over the next few days. Are you near the Maelstrom? If so I might be tempted to bring some of this stuff down there so you can see it in the flesh. 
Yup, just down the road really. Am planning to have a trip up there tomorrow, and hope to start going to the Thurs pm Infinity nights when I'm not on shift. One of the guys that I have chatted to has a lot of the Micro art stuff and that is nice, but I prefer the less slabby shape of the Sarissa bits. Though the walkway looks like it could be a pony to get minis between the legs, but there are always solutions to be had. Cheers for the offer and I look forward to having a better look!
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Post by: Kroothawk
Frontline Gamer wrote:World Exclusive: Sarissa Precision 'System ∞'
27th December, 2011
You know what? Sitting on a world exclusive isn't very easy you know. Especially when it's something a little bit exciting. Sure, so I'm not about to break the news on a new race in 40k, or tell you the 8th race in Warpath. Neither am I about to show you the profiles of the 0-12 forces in Infinity. But, hey I'm only a little blog and any world exclusive is a big deal for me alright! It's also my first so yeah... I'm milking it baby! No, what I'm about to show you is the latest efforts of those lovely chaps at Sarissa Precision. You know the people behind all that Old West scenery I've reviewed and used for my games of Malifaux of late. I'm a fully signed up fan of their Old West scenery and indeed laser cut HDF scenery in general. I really do think it's the future of scenery as it's strong, versatile and affordable what's not to love?
So imagine my delight when a fair few months back now I got an email off of Steve at Sarissa Precision asking me if I'd look over some new concepts for them. Stuff with a more futuristic 'slant'. I was only too happy to oblige and feedback my comments. This back and forth has gone on past a fair few emails and months now, and all the time I had to keep my big gob shut about how cool their stuff was. Not able to say a thing on pain of death, and trust me as somebody who just loves talking hobby and letting others know about cool stuff, it has very nearly killed me. I've been bouncing off of walls with anticipation, because I'm genuinely interested to see what other gamers think of it, and what you think of it. However, I can now break the silence and let you see what I've been looking at for quite a while now, and that is a really cool fully modular set of futuristic HDF terrain, suitable for many types of future war skirmish games, such as Infinity.
It is with Infinity that I really see this stuff taking off. Sure we've got Micro Art producing their admittedly really nice looking buildings and walkways, but as of right now there isn't really that much variance with what's on offer in that range. I'm sure that variance will come with the Micro Art stuff, as they've promised it will. But, what Sarissa Precision are starting with is a full set of buildings that offer you that versatility and difference, with it's own unique style and look. That ability to shape your battlefields the way you want to. And I'm bloody excited about it! The other really good thing about the Sarissa Precision stuff is cost, the Old West scenery was all extremely well priced and This range is no different with prices for buildings starting at £12. So this really could break down one of the two remaining barriers, that I think are stopping Infinity really taking off as a game system, and that is a suitable, quick and cost effective way of building up a board full of well made scenery. The other issue I'll be touching on soon in a series of articles.
So just what the hell have those lovely chaps at Sarrissa Precision got in store? Well over all I think the look and feel of their 'System ∞' stuff is more of a sci-fi outpost, or a colonisation town, a temporary settlement and intransigent in nature. The first settlement in a new region of some recently discovered planet, if you will. I suppose the best way to describe it would either be industrial prefab units or maybe even the Wild West in space! In short it's a very different feel and vibe to what we've seen from other companies, the frontier town ambiance should see people create different types of board, or at least I hope it will, I suppose I'm looking at a kind of Wild West town in space kind of look, mixed in with research outpost... yeah this means I'll be doing a board with this stuff. So I'll be doing work in progress articles of that for you too. Currently I'm looking at doing a Haqq Islam desert outpost settlement with some medical research facility attach. Lots of sand and palm trees, but what have Sarissa Precision got to help me achieve that look?
Walkways and Gantries
Well, we've all seen recently how cool walkways and gantries can be, some people may even have mercilessly 'borrowed' another companies design (you know who you are!). And yes I'm trying to be polite about it. However, we already have Micro Arts urban looking walkways, so I don't see the point in a company following that design or trying to 'emulate' it, the market has already provided that. So praise the lord that Sarissa also saw no point in going down that same route. Yeah, sure they're walkways, but nobody owns the right on walkways and gantries, besides Sarissa have gone for a more utilitarian and industrial looking set of walkways. They look like they belong in a frontier town in space, or an iron works, or a petrochemical factory, not some futuristic social housing estate. They wear their functionality on their sleeves, not that they actually have sleeves, look it's a turn of phrase. Oh here look at some pretty pictures:
They are also bloody versatile. Not content with making one type of walkway, Sarissa have developed a veritabe gaggle of options with their walkways, we have the standard walkway sections with open sides and top, in two heights high and low. But they've also produced various add on kits such as the nifty looking 'Gantry Rail Lighting' kits complete with laser cut acrylic lights. Swanky. Or my personal favourite add on kit the 'Gantry Canopies with Lighting' I can just see so many possibilities and uses for them in the games that I have played in Infinity. Genuinely when I saw the covered canopies there might have been an audible girlish squeal of delight emminating from my vicinity... OK I'm a wargames geek and I'm easily pleased! I think these few options alone would have been enough to keep this gamer happy creating walkways in the sky...
But not Sarissa. They decided they needed to offer more options, some of the criticisms gamers have leveled at the Micro Art Walkways is that they are open, well so far the pictures of the walkways I've shown you are also open. Well, you've got options now. There are 'Low Enclosed Gantry Signage Rails' and 'High Enclosed Gantry Signage Rails', both of which offer you as a gamer sturdy solid cover, at varying heights. Bloody fantastic option if you ask me. However, Sarissa haven't been content to stop there, oh no, they also give us the exceptionally cool looking (well I really like them) 'High Enclosed Gantry Tech Rails', in short they've given us gamers all the possible options we could desire. So there is absolutely no way in the world any of you guys could complain about what is on offer here, unless of course you're just a whinger.
The final type of walkway has only actually very recently been passed under my nose! Yeah, that's right, hot off the press. It was an option that I wasn't expecting, and didn't even known was something I might actually want... but again it's a fabulous option. They're called 'Gantry Walls' and they provide a solid wall of complete line of sight blocking terrain. They provide you with the option of building an enclosed military compound, or maybe a secure high tech research facility or industrial zone. They can be linked on the internal walls side with the other walkway systems, and also the rather cool looking 'Outpost Watch Tower'. There is also the 'Gantry Wall Gate', which actually has doors that can open and close. So where are the pictures I hear you cry? Well Sarissahaven't put them on sale yet and I don't want to spoil every surprise now do I? You'll just have to wait for these. The options are a little bewildering at first, but also really liberating. They really do give you all the options you need, and the best bit is that as they're sold seperately you only need buy the options you want so there's no wastage and you get the perfect layout you were after. They're off to a good start with these walkway options, they really are!
Pods and hab units
These will be the meat and veg of the 'System ∞' modular terrain sets. They offer a really cool way of constructing your own outpost frontier space town. As such there are a fair few options to hand, all of which allow you easy access to their interiors. We have the nice small, but perfectly formed 'Habitation Pod Explorer' Great for stacking smaller units on top of bigger units. Or even for creating small, narrow back street warren type environments. Next up we have the slightly longer version of the this pod, the 'Habitation Pod Settler'. It has the same neat hexagonal 'tube' like shape, but offers a more substantially sized construction. Again the possibilities for building your own frontier town are opened up with this building, with the ability, in conjunction with those walkways to 'stack' these in interesting configurations and create your own unique habitation block units.
Building on the length of 'Habitation Pod Settler' we then get the positively huge 'Habitation Pod Family', I guess the clue is in the name, it doubles or thereabouts the width of the 'Habitation Pod Settler' while retaining that length. You know, not that size matters or anything. This wider pod also introduces some standard internal detailing to the mix, in the shape of some 'structure frames', they add a nice utilitarian functionality to the interior of the building. The Habitation Pod Family also has the rather neat feature of these big open panel type windows, that come supplied with the shutters 'down' look, but can be removed, and I'm also told that at a future date there will also be some laser cut acrylic 'windows' made available. A variation on this particular theme is the 'Plaza - Pod', looking suspiciously like the Habitation Pod Family, you'll actually see that it has a 'porch' type area to the front of it. Offering yet another subtle variance for us wargamers to use. Pretty much all of what I have said about the largest Pod also rings true about the Plaza - Pod.
But just like the walkways, Sarissa Precision have also got some nice conversion and add on kits to bring to the base units as well. From nice details such as the 'Pod Tech Panel' accessory kit that will allow you to add some extra surface details to your Pods, such as numbers or various service panel hatches, a simple idea but a welcome one. There are also the 'Pod Trade Signage' options, to attach at the front roof sections of those pods to turn them into commercial looking units, again a simple idea, but a again very useful, not just aesthetically but also for breaking up any high vantage points Line of Sight, and providing some cover. You want more? What about some 'Pod Roof Access Ladders'? Yep, you'll have a cool looking sets of steps designed to grant easy access to those roofs, again something Infinity players have been begging for. There are also A variety of 'Elevation Supports' for raising those pods higher off of the ground, either at 'high' or 'medium' elevations that match up with the gantry options. Cunning! Yet more splendid options.
However, that's all external stuff right? Well yep, and external stuff is great no question, but in my games of Infinity invariably we end up going inside buildings to get away from the withering hail of bullets. So it is great that all of these pods allow really quick and easy access to the internal structures, just like they do with their Oldwest range. Even better is the fact that there will be 'Pod Interior Wall' kits to subdivide the interiors up. Yeah they really have thought of everything, these internal walls will allow you to section off parts of the internal sections into rooms, with doors and everything. I very nearly wet myself when I saw that, OK maybe that was too much information, but hopefully all of you Infinity gamers are just as excited about all of this as I am, because now we can create workable realistic buildings quickly and cost effectively. I've always wanted to have a shoot out in a kitchen / dinning room, with a few bits of decent resin internal details my dream can now be turned into reality. Thanks Sarissa.
Industrial units
There are plenty of us gamers out there who want to create Industrial looking boards. Replete with shipping containers, warehuses and storage silo's. Up until now if this is the look you were going for you had to be a dab hand with the old scratch built scenery. Or have been lucky enough to have tracked down some AT-43 shipping containers, which are rarer than rocking horse poo! However, my main issue with the AT-43 shipping containers, apart from their scarcity, is the fact they don't actually look all that 'modern' or 'futuristic'. Maybe in a couple hundreds of years shipping containers will look as they do today, or maybe they'll look a little bit more sleek and more like these shipping containers from Sarissa. The way they interlock in nice straight lines and retain a nice space between the upper and lower sections just looks modern to me. Yeah OK, so that gap might be considered wasted shipping space, but in the future we'll all be hedonistic, decadent consumers, so what's a little wasted space between containers? Besides these fit better with the sleek anime look of Infinity.
The other great staple of Industrial designs that I've seen, apart from the utilitarian gantries already covered elsewhere in this article, are those silo type structures. I mean come on, admit it, we've all tried the Pringles tube silo. Haven't we? Sure some of us have probably achieved better success with it than others, but if your 'Pringle silo's' are anything at all like mine they're a weak structure that eventually breaks down and need re-doing from the ground up. So when I saw the 'System ∞ - Silo' there may have been a hallelujah moment. They look cool, offer your snipers decent positions with which to pop heads, and also provide great ground cover. The standing up silo's will also get a great accessory set in the shape of the 'Silo Ladders', that will hopefully stop snipers sitting on top of them killing people with impunity, unless they're smart enough to bring some antipersonnel mines with them. The second accessory offered with for the silo's is the 'Silo Horizontal Support Frame', which allows you, rather obviously, to put those Silo's horizontally, to add to this there will also be some 'Silo Horizontal Side Ladders. Again versatility seems to be the watchword here... and I like it
I have however saved the best till last. During one of my many emails to Steve at Sarissa, mentioning the sorts of things I think us gamers might like to see, I may have mentioned that we'd all like to to see a warehouse type structure. Sure enough a few days later I got this image I know, totally fracking awesome right, RIGHT? The 'Industrial - Warehous Unit' has to be my current pick of the bunch, I mean look at it and tell me you don't want at least one of them right now! On your gaming board, completed, and ready to play games over. They'll provide a nice big internal space that you'll be able to stack boxes and crates inside, hell maybe you might even be able to fit a resin sci-fi vehicle in there from somewhere like Antenocitis Workshop. Now wouldn't that look ace, and wouldn't that just be a brutally cool piece of scenery to fight over? Just look at the possibilities all of this Industrial looking scenery now affords us as gamers. There's not too much you can't do with this now is there? Go on build yourself a future warehouse / industrial sector... there may even be a rather huge center piece office / factory / research facility building I'm not showing you yet. I know I'm mean aren't I.
Street furniture
Finally, but by no means least comes the street furniture. It's something that many of us I'm sure mess up or neglect on our own boards. Many of us are good at getting the big square blocks of buildings done, although if you're like me recently you might even be a bit poor at getting those done! So street furniture isn't always the highest of priorities, trust me I know. So it's great Sarissa have also provided a few options in this department as well. Although it's not quite classed as street level clutter, there will be a 'Roof Clutter' set, that will provide you with a solar panels and AC unit to put onto building roofs. There will also be the very hi-tech looking 'Satellite Ariel Array', which sure could end up on top of roofs, but there's no reason why they couldn't be at street level, they'd look ace amongst a temporary looking street market, Ghost In the Shell Stylie! Ah yes, shoot outs amongst melons. They've also decided to provide us all with some street lamps, it's the one thing that is always missing from my own urban boards and totally ruins the illusion of a street. Well no more, I have a solution for that now. There's even the 'Street Canopy with Lighting', which looks a bit like a bus shelter, or maybe one of those 'smoking shelters' that have sprung up at workplaces all over the UK since the smoking ban. Either way it will have its uses in helping to create a frontier town. There will be some 'High' and 'low' street walls made available, so that's most of the bases I can think of well and truly covered.
Conclusion
I know this has been a mammoth article, and a huge amount of information for you to digest, but hopefully you all think it has been worth it. I know I'm super excited by all the stuff Sarissa Precision have shown me over the last month or two, and I've been itching to get my hands on it and game test it all... and now I have! I also want to work out cool configurations and build a cool looking Haqqislam military outpost / research facility out of it all, I even have a colour scheme and basic plan in mind. Although when I look at this stuff I see endless possibilities for Infinity, it also has scope outside of Infinity. There is no reason why this stuff couldn't be used to make a Tau outpost in 40k or maybe a futuristic looking shanty town for Dark Age or Eden. Hell It would even make some utterly fab looking Necromunda terrain. Obviously I'm sure my enthusiasm and excitement for this range comes through loud and clear. It's just yet another great scenery option for us wargamers to choose from, and choice is a good thing right? What I now want to know, having broken the story to you all, is what do you think of it? Please jot your comments down below, I'm sure the guys at Sarissa would also love to hear what you have to say about it all as well. I'll be posting an Interview with Steve Cumming of Sarissa Precision tomorrow and doing some reviews throughout the week... oh and did I mention when this stuff goes on sale? I didn't? Well guess what, it goes on sale on January 2nd. Not long to wait is it? Peace out!
http://thefrontlinegamer.blogspot.com/2011/12/world-exclusive-sarissa-precision.html (with some mre pics)
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Post by: SirAngry
@Kroothawk, thanks for posting my article in its entirety.
@Captain Jack, not too sure when I'll be next down the Maelstrom as I'm in the West Mids. BUT, next time I am I'll drop you a PM and let you know.
Just so you know, I've dropped an interview with Steve Cummings of Sarissa Precision up on my blog. More importantly it has pictures of some of the buildings in it. They're all dry assembled. No glue. Ceers.
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Post by: BrookM
Added to my faves, the cityblock kits in particular are looking mighty interesting with my 7TV ambitions.
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Post by: AesSedai
Great the price point right and you'll have a horde of customers. Stuff looks great, I'll keep an eye on future developments.
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Post by: SirAngry
AesSedai wrote:Great the price point right and you'll have a horde of customers. Stuff looks great, I'll keep an eye on future developments.
Sadly I won't be getting any customers. I'm not affiliated with Sarissa Precision in any way. I just gave them some feedback during the design process.
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Post by: BrookM
SirAngry wrote:AesSedai wrote:Great the price point right and you'll have a horde of customers. Stuff looks great, I'll keep an eye on future developments.
Sadly I won't be getting any customers. I'm not affiliated with Sarissa Precision in any way. I just gave them some feedback during the design process.
He should give you freebies then!
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Post by: SirAngry
http://thefrontlinegamer.blogspot.com/2011/12/review-system-habitation-pod-explorer.html
First review. It's the small pod, or to give it its proper title the Habitation Pod - Explorer. Cheers.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Looking really good. Do we have a price point yet?
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Post by: Ouze
This feels right, to me, like the perfect terrain for an Aliens-themed board. It just has a xenomorph scenery feel - I love it.
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Post by: Necros
One thing about their kits, or at least the ones I ordered, is they'll make your place smell like a campfire for a good week or so  I guess it's from the laser beams burning the wood and stuff.
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Post by: scarletsquig
Looking good!
I'm loving all the MDF stuff that is coming out lately, we need more of it!
Edit: Ah, these are the same guys who made the awesome, and insanely cheap wild west buildings.. this is gonna turn out really well, I think.
I like how the individual models are stackable, so you can create your own unique buildings on the fly:
They've got some renders of how this will work on their site, and it's looking pretty good, something like this would be great for necromunda:
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Post by: BrookM
Necros wrote:One thing about their kits, or at least the ones I ordered, is they'll make your place smell like a campfire for a good week or so  I guess it's from the laser beams burning the wood and stuff.
Haha, I had the same with my MicroArt buildings. The shopkeep who put them away for me couldn't find them in his store until he tracked them by scent. Good smell innit. Guess that seals the deal for me, once I have some space to spare that is.
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Post by: Kroothawk
lord_blackfang wrote:Looking really good. Do we have a price point yet?
See here.
The other really good thing about the Sarissa Precision stuff is cost, the Old West scenery was all extremely well priced and This range is no different with prices for buildings starting at £12.
Ouze wrote:This feels right, to me, like the perfect terrain for an Aliens-themed board. It just has a xenomorph scenery feel - I love it.
Yeah, no skullz
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Post by: Death By Monkeys
So, how does the HDF stuff paint up?
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Post by: BrookM
If it's like MicroArt's stuff, easy enough.
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Post by: SirAngry
Death By Monkeys wrote:So, how does the HDF stuff paint up?
Not too bad. As it's in effect wood you can paint straight onto the surface. However, the stuff is essentially dryer than Gandhi's flip flops!!! So I find either using a big tank brush and some ink or watered down acrylic paint to prime them works wonders. Don't waste any spray primer on them because it'll just soak it up!
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Post by: Necros
For the wild west buildings I was doing, I had an awesome plan to use all GW washes to paint & stain them, but that didn't work well. The washes are just too light. So I got some small cans of water based wood stain from my local hardware place and that worked much better. The wood will suck up anything wet, so if you want to paint it like a normal model, I'd use a spray primer first. Go to the hardware store and get some paint thats good for wood, but apply it sparingly so you don't fill in the details.
I read tutorial where I guy used ink and colored sharpie magic markers and got some great weathering effects that way, but I never tried it. can't find the link now :(
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Post by: Noir
Necros wrote:One thing about their kits, or at least the ones I ordered, is they'll make your place smell like a campfire for a good week or so  I guess it's from the laser beams burning the wood and stuff.
I don't see that as a bad thing.
The kit look good, being looking at the City Block Bundle, myself.
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Post by: SirAngry
Necros wrote:For the wild west buildings I was doing, I had an awesome plan to use all GW washes to paint & stain them, but that didn't work well. The washes are just too light. So I got some small cans of water based wood stain from my local hardware place and that worked much better. The wood will suck up anything wet, so if you want to paint it like a normal model, I'd use a spray primer first. Go to the hardware store and get some paint thats good for wood, but apply it sparingly so you don't fill in the details.
I read tutorial where I guy used ink and colored sharpie magic markers and got some great weathering effects that way, but I never tried it. can't find the link now :(
Wood stain would work fine but honestly using a spray primer is big waste of time. It just really eats into spray primers and is a massive waste of money. Much better to buy some standard acrylic paint in a big tub water it down a little and brush it on. Also a standard ink as opposed to a glaze or wash stains the buildings nicely too. On my Old West buildings from Sarissa I used Coat d Arms inks. I've painted enough HDF buildings to know that spray primers get eaten alive by this stuff... and yes I am talking from very costly experience!!! lol.
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Post by: LunaHound
Reminds me of the Portal 2 cryo pods.
Any painted pics?
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Post by: Aduro
How fine is the detail on the sides of those? Would they take to a drybrush or are they going to get filed in when you basecoat it?
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Post by: Savnock
I really can't wait to see what their bundle offers are going to be like.
Also, the MAS buildings are really killer for airbrushing. I'm thinking that these might be a less-expensive set to practice that art on.
Also, looking forward to seeing these and the MAS sets side-by-side. A few of each could make for a really killer board.
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Post by: Necros
I don't have any of the sci fi stuff yet, but here's a mostly painted pic of one of the wild west heroic buildings... still gotta do the lettering up top for the store name.. I was thinking of something like "Custom Outhouses by U. P. Frehley"
I didn't prime it at all, I just did heavy drybrushing of shadow gray on all the walls, and the trim was slopped-on bleached bone followed by a rough drybrush of skull white. I wanted the wood color to show through. I think the sci fi buildings will paint up nice, just be ready for the wood to absorb a lot of paint, so it might take an extra coat or 2.
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Post by: Captain Jack
How would a thinned out coat of PVA do? Would it prevent the paints from soaking in so much?
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Post by: sonofruss
There are two things that will stop it ether clear coat or a wood sealer should do nicely I really want a pro airless sprayer for large buildings like this.
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Post by: notprop
Captain Jack wrote:How would a thinned out coat of PVA do? Would it prevent the paints from soaking in so much?
This is exactly what you should use. You can buy mdf/wood sealers but its just watered down PVA glue (thats white/wood glue to yanks) that you are generally buying probably with a little white paint to take base coats.
Either way it should solve any paint soaking up issues.
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Post by: SirAngry
LunaHound wrote:Reminds me of the Portal 2 cryo pods.
Any painted pics?
These were literally put into my hands hot off of the laser cutter late on Christmas Eve. I have only really been able to dry assemble them for the blog and get a few games in with them for the reviews and write ups I've done. Don't worry though I fully intend to paint all of these up and get a few articles up on the blog about what they're like to paint etc. and I plan on doing a desrt outpost board with them.
Aduro wrote:How fine is the detail on the sides of those? Would they take to a drybrush or are they going to get filed in when you basecoat it?
A normal base coat won't fill the detail, and I used ink to stain my Old West buildings and then drybrushed those to get a nice grained wood effect so I don't think these will be any different. But looking at them I'm tempted to base coat them a colour maybe highlight sections with my airbrushes and then use watered down paint to run into the groves for shadding and let the natural capillary action do all the hard work.
Savnock wrote:I really can't wait to see what their bundle offers are going to be like.
Also, the MAS buildings are really killer for airbrushing. I'm thinking that these might be a less-expensive set to practice that art on.
Also, looking forward to seeing these and the MAS sets side-by-side. A few of each could make for a really killer board.
I'll be doing some comparison shots it an article soon comparing the MAS and SP buildings so hopefully you'll find that useful. I actually think from a gaming perspective the SP buildings probably work out better as a set on the board because there are way more options. However, chuck a few MAS buildings between them and I think you'll have a really cool little gaming board for something like Infinity. Sorry I don't know what the bundle deals are, although I can tell you the prices of some of the main stuff I've already put up on the blog:
Habitation Pod Explorer - £12
Habitation Pod Settler - £16
Habitation Pod Family - £20
Warehouse £22.50
Silo's - £7.50
Supply Container - £7.50
All the various base gantry options will cost £5 per section and you'll be able to buy 5 sections for the price of 4, i.e £20, which obviously works out at £4 per section. Hope that helps.
Captain Jack wrote:How would a thinned out coat of PVA do? Would it prevent the paints from soaking in so much?
I've used watered down PVA glue to stick my Old West buildings together and where I sploshed a bit onto the walls it did effect how the ink flowed but not the drybrushed paint over the top and it wasn't too noticeable. I know somebody who used clear spray varnish to seal some of the Micro Art Urban buildings and they said that worked well, but again I worry about the wood just soaking it all up.
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Post by: BrookM
I use skull white primer for my MDF buildings, works like a charm.
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Post by: SirAngry
BrookM wrote:I use skull white primer for my MDF buildings, works like a charm.
Is that he spray can undercoat or brush on?
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Post by: BrookM
SirAngry wrote:BrookM wrote:I use skull white primer for my MDF buildings, works like a charm.
Is that he spray can undercoat or brush on?
Spray.
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@ SirAngry
This stuff looks absolutely marvelous. You have a customer right here
Please can you advertise when you will be doing a "showing" at Maelstrom, I go there alot, and would be interested to see these in the flesh! If possible maybe you can bring some down to be purchased....I'm pretty sure I'll buy on the spot!!
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Post by: SirAngry
Delephont wrote:@ SirAngry
This stuff looks absolutely marvelous. You have a customer right here
Please can you advertise when you will be doing a "showing" at Maelstrom, I go there alot, and would be interested to see these in the flesh! If possible maybe you can bring some down to be purchased....I'm pretty sure I'll buy on the spot!!
If I go down to the Maelstrom I'll drop any time soon I'll drop it down here when I'll be there. Sadly I won't be able to sell you any because I don't actually work for Sarissa Precision. lol. You can however purchase them direct from Sarissa Precision from 2nd Jan.
http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/
@BrookM, hmm I might have to go into a GW and pick some undercoat up. Perhaps the primers I use aren't suitable for wood and I should have been using cheap ass undercoat all along!!! Typical. lol.
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Post by: BrookM
Mind you, I use them on MicroArt studios kit, maybe Polish wood has different qualities than British wood used.
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Post by: Nephilim
I use Halfords Grey spray primer on MDF all the time and it works like a treat.
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Post by: Necros
I have 2 adobe buildings to paint, I have some generic Kyrlon white primer, so I'll prolly use that, but I'll use plain ole wood stain for the floor and roof.
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Post by: jedi76
Oh my! I thought I had my board planned out and this happens.
Got to have that big garage building...once my wallet recovers from Christmas.
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Post by: SirAngry
Heya guys,
Just to give you a quick update, but Sarissa have put their stuff up on their webstore to buy:
http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/store/system8/
Also the gantries aren't quite ready yet as they're making some last minute adjustments based on some feedback they've had. They'll be added at some point this week though and I'll be doing my reviews of them too. I hope you all had a great New Years Eve!
Cheers
Frontline Gamer
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Post by: -Loki-
The timing on this seems perfect. I'm just getting into Infinity, and I was looking for predone urban terrain.
Question though - the etched lines, are they cut into the wood, or just burned lines? If they're just burned lines, it's doing to make them look a bit dull when they're painted.
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Post by: malfred
SirAngry wrote:
Habitation Pod Explorer - £12
Habitation Pod Settler - £16
Habitation Pod Family - £20
Warehouse £22.50
Silo's - £7.50
Supply Container - £7.50
These prices are amazing. Automatically Appended Next Post: Question: Will these only be available on their site, or will there
be US distribution?
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Post by: Necros
And don't quote me but I think I read if you spend more than £30, shipping is free.. or maybe it was 50, but still. Dunno if it was a limited thing, but I ordered 4 buildings and got free shipping to the US
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Post by: malfred
It's £30.
http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/store/shipping/
Hot damn. Now I need my budget to open up!
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That sold me on using them without painting them.
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Post by: BrookM
Caved in and ordered some solar panels and AC unit for my MicroArt building along with a nifty cityblock series 64 model, type 5 with an extra floor for added height. I'm looking forward to these with muy gusto.
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Post by: Alpharius
I'm hoping to hear reports on how well they do paint up, and how best to prime/prepare them for painting.
Once we know all that - I'm in!
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Post by: BrookM
Oh aye, I hope that these are as receptive to primer as the MicroArt studios kits, because if so, Sarissa will be seeing a lot of my money this year.
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Post by: Necros
Really looks great all built up like that.
I'd imagine that the usual spray primers out there will be fine for these though.
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Alpharius wrote:I'm hoping to hear reports on how well they do paint up, and how best to prime/prepare them for painting.
Once we know all that - I'm in!
This
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I've just dropped £150 on a selection of bits, once it's here I'll try and get some pics up with it undercoated.
Hey Captain Jack - I still have that CD of photo's for you !
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Post by: SirAngry
Yep it's a great little series of terrain and I'm just glad I was able to get the news out there to everyone. I'm currently planning a table based around this stuff and I'll post pics and links when I start on it here for peeps.
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
I'd love to see how they'd look with one coat of thinned-down black ash woodstain. Not sure when I'll be able to afford some myself though.
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Post by: notprop
This looks really good and am very tempted, looking at the website it's nice to see the multibuy deals I think a bundle like old west and cityblock ones would be hard to resist.
Can anyone who has handled this stuff comment on the hand rails seen on allot of the items. Looks like tHey could be a bit fragile, I'd like to know thats not the case?
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Post by: nkelsch
I need to see the scifi stuff painted. Nothing looks 'odder' than when metal looks like wood.
MDF makes good stone but not so much metal, especially with washes, so I would love to see someone paint some of these because the designs are cool and the price is right.
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Post by: Captain Jack
notprop wrote:This looks really good and am very tempted, looking at the website it's nice to see the multibuy deals I think a bundle like old west and cityblock ones would be hard to resist.
Can anyone who has handled this stuff comment on the hand rails seen on allot of the items. Looks like tHey could be a bit fragile, I'd like to know thats not the case?
It isn't gonna be as strong as metal, but if you glue them in place they won't be much more fragile than plastic equiv. You'll still have to be fairly careful, as at the end of the day they are small pieces. Repairs to wood with pins etc should be fairly simple too.
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Post by: Darkwynn
nkelsch wrote:I need to see the scifi stuff painted. Nothing looks 'odder' than when metal looks like wood.
MDF makes good stone but not so much metal, especially with washes, so I would love to see someone paint some of these because the designs are cool and the price is right.
If you want the metal look on mdf there is a nice little way. I did it with this product called plasticdip. Took a foam brush and went over the Mdf. After it dried just primed and painted it was good.
It basically gave it a plastic coat to make it work. I was using it more along the lines to protect the MDF.
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Post by: Pacific
Darkwynn, do you mean this stuff? (3rd and 4th option http://www.plastidip.co.uk/ ) ?
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Post by: scarletsquig
Thanks for the tip!
I'd never heard of plastic dip before, would be really interested in seeing the kind of finish it gives.
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
Wouldn't plastidip hide too much of the detail? I've not used it, but I know a few LARPers who use it to patch holes in the latex covering on their LARP weapons and so on. I get the impression it's quite thick.
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Post by: Necros
How about coating the wood with watered down white/pva glue? Just brush it on and it'll soak in, but leave the coating on top. That's what I did for the joints in on my wild west buildings, and I noticed wood stains don't really work when I hit those areas with it, so I had to go over those spots with normal paint.
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Post by: The Infinite
I cannot really express how glad I am that you posted this.
It's the scenery set that I've always wanted, at a price that won't break the bank.
Just the one item ordered so far, I want to see for myself how they are to assemble and paint before I fill my 8x4 board with them (yes, Necromunda needs that size table to be enjoyed properly).
Thank you.
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Post by: AgeOfEgos
The best metal affect I've found is simple spray paint.
Prime black
Spray Army Builter Platemail lightly
Do 'dry brush' or 'light spray' black and rust areas
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Post by: scarletsquig
@The Infinite - I can see exactly where you're coming from with wanting a whole massive board packed with this stuff.
Mordheim is my specialist game of choice, so if one of these HDF companies ever makes a medieval ruins set, I will be buying into it in a BIG way.
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Post by: The Infinite
scarletsquig wrote:@The Infinite - I can see exactly where you're coming from with wanting a whole massive board packed with this stuff.
Mordheim is my specialist game of choice, so if one of these HDF companies ever makes a medieval ruins set, I will be buying into it in a BIG way.
It may be entirely moot, but I found a great way of simulating roads (especially cobbled ones) for Mordheim boards was to use textured wallpaper. Either laid directly onto the board in strips or as part of modular terrain.
You can get a load of patterns that would look like paved streets or cobblestones really easily in most DIY stores (if they have an off-cut bin even better, you don't need much).
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Post by: Pacific
Just received my Sarissa Warehouse in the post today!
First of all, build quality is excellent and very accurate - most of it can be assembled without glue, although I will go back and glue most of it except for the lid (which is easily removable).
The big garage doors either end and one small door are held in place with small tabs, which again can be easily removed, and give you the choice in terms of having it completely closed up or with some access points.
Scale is perfect for Infinity, and as a large, LOS-blocking terrain with roof access (provided by 2 neat little ladders) it is ideally suited to it. I also see no reason why it could not be used for 40k, or indeed any other future or near future sci-fi setting.
The only negative thing, the panel design you see on the photo is not actually etched into the wood, leading me to believe that if I paint it you are going to lose that aspect. That's a shame, as the Micro-Arts buildings have a slight indentation to their pattern (is that correct?) Although, it's nothing some masking tape can't solve in terms of spraying/painting.
Overall though it is an excellent model, very finely detailed and well made, hopefully will great on the battlefield when it is painted up!
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Pacific wrote:Darkwynn, do you mean this stuff? (3rd and 4th option http://www.plastidip.co.uk/ ) ?[/quote
Yes that is the stuff.
That being said it is very thick and I would thin it down with paint thinner or Naptha is what they ask for to do it. IF you use a foam brush though you can control the flow and thickness pretty easy.
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Post by: adhuin
Any word on when the walkways will be released?
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Post by: Nephilim
Walkways are due end of this month - if the remodelling work goes as planned.
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Post by: SirAngry
Bit of thread necromancy (how very current) as some of you were keen on the articles I did. I've written a review of the Gantry System finally as Sarissa have got them all sorted out now:
http://thefrontlinegamer.blogspot.com/2012/01/review-system-gantry-system-sarissa.html
As always I hope you find it useful.
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Post by: Captain Jack
Good review, in fact I agree with all the points brought up in it. I managed to get my lazy behind to Maelstrom again last night, and now that they have got their 'intro' board set up properly it looks stunning (no pics this time, sorry. Phone was dead because I forgot to plug in my charger while listening to music in the car  ), and it means that I am definitely going to get some of this gear!
Just to clear up something with regards to the detail on the different sections, it is scored deep enough so that as long as you don't go overboard with thick paint you will be able to keep the details visible, Personally I'm going with White/Bone interiors and Space wolf grey highlighted up for the exterior colours.
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Post by: Pacific
Awesome stuff mate, will probably get some of those on the strength of that review.
I should say that what I perceived to be a negative in a previous post (i.e. that the detailing would be obscured by a coat of paint) isn't true!
They are actually very fine indentations into the wood, and still show after coating with a layer of very watered-down PVA, varnish, followed by Tamiya grey surface primer:
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Post by: Nephilim
I have posted up a painting blog with some pictures of my Sarissa building and a quick guide to salt weathering them as well if anyone is interested.
http://civildead.blogspot.com/
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Post by: Necros
Nice rust effect.. always been meaning to try that myself
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Post by: adhuin
Great rust monster on a stick! Nice work.
I went with lazier "let wood shine through" rusting effect:
Simply sprayed space wolf coat and started picking details. The lines look much more clearly on nature. Even on the red door.
I'm really happy with the product.
Can't wait for the walkways!
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Post by: BrookM
Damn, seeing those painted pods makes me wish they'd hurry up with my order.
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Post by: Balance
Is that an army of Ood in adhuin's image?
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Post by: Pacific
A quick review of a completed Sarissa Warehouse kit, which hopefully should help people fence-sitting make up their mind if they want one or not!
I've made it as a Taxi garage/workshop for the Acontimento board I'm constructing at the moment. I've also got a 'sci-fi car' from Antenociti's workshop, which will be painted up as a taxi and can be placed in or around this warehouse (in fact it fits quite neatly on the driveway).
The entire kit is glued with the exception of the roof piece, which can be easily removed and then slotted back into place, making it ideal for fighting in or around the building (and for hiding Krazy Koalas inside  )
The control panel is a resin terrain piece from Antenociti's Workshop, you get 20 in a pack which is very reasonable. They come with a small array of screen designs which you can just cut out and stick on, I think they will be a great way of introducing a unifying element between terrain of different styles (this, MAS and scratch-built stuff)
As you can see, the etching on the panels shows through after spray painting. I added some detail of weathering, and the small warning signs dotted around it are printed from HubbaHubba's excellent poster sheet from his blog in the Arcologies section (on the Infinity forums)
One of the great things about this kit is the doors are easy to remove or just keep in place. I've made both the front door back door so they can be opened/closed. I haven't finished it yet. but I've attached a small rare earth magnet to the other door, so it can be in closed/open position, and the front door/rear garage door.
I did toy with the idea of painting up the inside, having a garage ramp and workbenches etc. but a couple of things put me off. I think you will always need a level of abstraction from the game when constructing a gaming table, and nothing hits that home more than having badly scaled or incomplete internals of buildings. For the second reason, I think while this is achievable, it's more of a time issue. I would love to make a table with tiny tool racks and computer terminals inside, but have to balance this against getting a table full of terrain completed! I may come back to it.
If anyone has any questions about the kit I would be happy to answer, but for now it definitely gets a big thumbs up as easy to make and affordable.
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Post by: adhuin
IMPORTANT THINGS FIRST:
GANTRIES ARE HERE (in feb 6th)
EDIT: first review and pics of gantries:
http://thefrontlinegamer.blogspot.com/2012/01/review-system-gantry-system-sarissa.html
and a pic shamelessly borrowed from above blog:
Looks like there's new pre-releases for February 6th:
GANTRIES or walkways.
http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/store/system8/ (at the bottom of the page)
All 5 pounds, if not said otherwise:
3 different stairs
ground to 1st floor (pod roofs, etc)
ground to 2nd floor (2 pods high)
1st floor to 2nd floor
127mm long Gantry, either 1st floor or 2nd floor height
214mm long Gantry, either 1st floor or 2nd floor height
124mm long gantry bridge, either 1st floor or 2nd floor height. models can go under the bridge (no extra support beams crossing)
60x60 mm size gantry that can be 2 way corner or 3 to 4 way crossing. either 1st floor or 2nd floor height . X2 (contains 2)
Rail light kit. Contains 4 Pairs of lightpoles with light blue acrylic lights (also fit pod roofs)
Canopies for gantry with light in each corner. Short length X2 (contains 2)
Canopies for gantry with light in each corner. long length.
Alternative rails:
3 different kinds, low, high and no-gap size, solid sight blockers. Each has 4 of each size, short, long and corner.
High tech rails, with detailing. It has 2 of each size, short, long and corner.
Pod supports: You can raise pods to 1st or 2nd floor!
Explorer 1st or 2nd floor
Settler 1st or 2nd floor
Family/plaza 1st 7,5 pounds
Family/plaza 2nd 10 pounds
Gantry - Walkway:
ground level gantry. Height is the floor level of normal pods. Can also placed higher between pods or silos mounted on the Horizontal Stands. x2 (contains 2)
PLUS: there's group discount. 5 non-pod-supports for price of 4 ( 5 pound discount)
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Jaw simply dropped!
So pre-ordered.
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earlier jabbing:
That Taxi-garage and Those decals look awesome
! It's nice to see how small things can change the look totally different.
I've been eyeing those Antenociti stuff earlier and your garage has convinced to get them for my sarissa buildings. They give nice high tech detail and complexity that you can't get from simple MDF.
BALANCE: I call them Zoidberg bros. I made them way before seeing any Doctor Who, so any similarity is just coincidental.
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Post by: SirAngry
Hello everybody (in my best Dr Nic voice)
I've been asked to do some comparison shots of the MAS stuff and the Sarissa Precision stuff so I've popped an article up on my blog:
http://thefrontlinegamer.blogspot.com/2012/01/micro-art-and-sarissa-precision.html
@Adhuin, you can shamelessly borrow pics from my blog if you like. It's what it's therefore, to spread the news. I have no problem with it.
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Post by: piperider361
Somewhat on topic,
I order the sample pack of one of each 15mm WW2 building. This stuff is NICE. By far the nicest 15mm terrain I have ever seen in person. I might be a LITTLE on the fragile side, but not too bad. I have assembled 5 of the buildings I go so far, and thus far have only had two missing pieces. I have not yet began to paint them, but I'm sure it will be fine with an airbrush and some very thin paint to not obscure the engraved details.
Highly recommend!
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Post by: BrookM
Got my order today after nearly a month of waiting and I am less than pleased to say the least. While the AC unit and solar panels look nice, if a bit simple, the building I ordered not only has the WRONG building type for the main structure, but also the wrong window inserts for the extra floor. I ordered a type five building and instead I got a type 2 building. As I said, less than pleased. First I had to wait a month to get the goods and now I'll have to go through the tedium of getting the right parts.
Update.
After sending them a polite email I've been promised both a replacement kit and proper inserts for the wrong building.
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Post by: BrookM
Negative last post aside, here are some pics of their stuff applied to other kits. I ordered three items: An AC unit, a pack of solar panels and a regular old city building. I mounted one solar panel unit along with the AC unit on my Micro Art District 5 building: The door of the AC unit was rather flimsy and easily snapped off, so I had to fix that with some extra reinforcements from the interior. I mounted the other solar panel unit on my Micro Art radar station, which I also added two sets of Tamiya 1:48 sandbags to to make it look extra military like: Here's the building as it is right now. As you can see the ground and first floor both lack proper windows and the top floor, which is the type of building I ordered, is the only part right about this set. Other than that, it looks about right for true-scale 28mm, though it's a good thing I used flat bases and not bevelled ones like GW uses, otherwise the minis would've been too tall for most of this stuff. And here are the door / window panels they got me, while the right style, don't fit the building as it is now: Hopefully the replacements won't take a month to reach me, there's a deadline looming.
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Post by: winnertakesall
It does look pretty nice, although the packaging problem you got can be very annoying. I think the AC unit is probably the better of the two buildings.
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Post by: BrookM
Got the proper kit and parts today, so here are the two buildings built:
Type 3 on the left, type 5 on the right.
Chances are I'll probably build in lights at some point and cover up the windows with thin coloured plastic, though this is far, far off as of right now.
Final verdict on the company: Packing and shipping mishap aside, which was quickly and cordially fixed, I will buy from them again, as the building kits are decent, easy to build and provide effective models for a decent price. I can see myself buying more of these building sets for that city table I'm planning on doing later this year.
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Post by: Druidic
I got an upcpose look at Maelstrom at the weekend, and thought I'd post
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Post by: BrookM
I spy a new tower in the background.
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Post by: adhuin
There's also a toilet-box (or whatever) on the right.
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Post by: BrookM
adhuin wrote:There's also a toilet-box (or whatever) on the right.
That's their AC unit.
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Post by: Death By Monkeys
BrookM wrote:adhuin wrote:There's also a toilet-box (or whatever) on the right.
That's their AC unit.
Why does it have a door, then?
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Post by: BrookM
Death By Monkeys wrote:BrookM wrote:adhuin wrote:There's also a toilet-box (or whatever) on the right.
That's their AC unit.
Why does it have a door, then?
How the hell should I know? All their site says is..
System ∞ Air Con / Access Door in laser cut MDF. Kit supplied unassembled and unpainted, gluing may be required on some parts. Solar Panel unit in picture not included but available separately.
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Post by: Necros
It has to have a door so the HVAC guy can get in there to fix it when it breaks.
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Post by: Von Skyfury
scarletsquig wrote:
Mordheim is my specialist game of choice, so if one of these HDF companies ever makes a medieval ruins set, I will be buying into it in a BIG way.
A bit of necro but didn't felt like starting a new post. They have a new range for medieval thingies, don't know if it suits your needs
http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/store/darkages/
And by the end of the week, the System ∞ range should get updated with new stuff
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Post by: Alpharius
Von Skyfury wrote: scarletsquig wrote:
Mordheim is my specialist game of choice, so if one of these HDF companies ever makes a medieval ruins set, I will be buying into it in a BIG way.
A bit of necro but didn't felt like starting a new post. They have a new range for medieval thingies, don't know if it suits your needs
http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/store/darkages/
And by the end of the week, the System ∞ range should get updated with new stuff
Definitely keep this thread running then, please!
I am looking forward to seeing what new stuff they come up with for their System ∞ Range!
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Ye, I knew someone was manufacturing Mass Effect terrain for Infinity. If only it wasn't so expensive.
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Post by: BrookM
I keep hoping for expansions to their City Block range of buildings.
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Website Update - We’re in the process of working on a new website on a different platform. This will make updates easier for us and also allow us to use some cool new features. During this update we’ll also be working through all the images on the website and adding multiple product shots of our ranges. It’s at an advanced stage and should be good to go soon.
Couple of new stuff. Much later than expected but still awesome =)
A new range and some additions to the System ∞
http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/
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Post by: adhuin
Von Skyfury wrote:Website Update - We’re in the process of working on a new website on a different platform. This will make updates easier for us and also allow us to use some cool new features. During this update we’ll also be working through all the images on the website and adding multiple product shots of our ranges. It’s at an advanced stage and should be good to go soon.
Couple of new stuff. Much later than expected but still awesome =)
A new range and some additions to the System ∞
http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/
Those connector-pods look great! Massive complexes, here I come!
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Post by: Alpharius
There are some nice new additions in there - nice find, and thanks for sharing!
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Post by: Von Skyfury
Will post pictures when I receive mine =)
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Post by: SirAngry
If you guys want to see what the link pods look like in the flesh I have some pics here on my Blog:
http://thefrontlinegamer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/sarissa-precission-system-update-post.html#comment-form
Cheers
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Post by: Alpharius
Nice review - it is always good to see Sarissa's stuff 'in the flesh', though to be honest, they never disappoint!
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Post by: Grot 6
How do these buildings take to paint?
Do they warp when you base them?
Are they build and play, or do you have much prep work with them?
All in all they are almost exactly what I'm looking for for some of the Infinity stuff I'd like to do.
Really good looking stuff at some good prices.
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Post by: SirAngry
Grot 6 wrote:How do these buildings take to paint?
Do they warp when you base them?
Are they build and play, or do you have much prep work with them?
All in all they are almost exactly what I'm looking for for some of the Infinity stuff I'd like to do.
Really good looking stuff at some good prices. 
I think the buildings take paint pretty damn well actually. However as they are MDF buildings they are pretty 'thirsty' and suck up paint like it is going out of style. I choose to seal mine with a coat of hairspray first, then paint straight over that. If you want to see what somebody who can paint can do with them though you might want to check these out:
http://maxvond.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/system-infinity-colour-test/
I've found virtually no prep work is required. Most of the pieces are clip together, and I've heard of a few people who flat pack them after games to save on storage space. They are simply clip together. But things like the hand rails need to be treated with kid gloves because they are very, very delicate.
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Post by: Pacific
Grot 6 wrote:How do these buildings take to paint?
Do they warp when you base them?
Are they build and play, or do you have much prep work with them?
Here is a topic mate about the issue of this type of building drinking paint http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/478142.page#4950294
I gave them a think layer of varnish first before spraypainting in white, but TBH I'm not sure how necessary it is as they are quite thin HDF (I think?) and therefore not likely to suck up that much paint. Think I gave mine 2 coats of paint and then that was it.
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Post by: SirAngry
Pacific wrote: Grot 6 wrote:How do these buildings take to paint?
Do they warp when you base them?
Are they build and play, or do you have much prep work with them?
Here is a topic mate about the issue of this type of building drinking paint http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/478142.page#4950294
I gave them a think layer of varnish first before spraypainting in white, but TBH I'm not sure how necessary it is as they are quite thin HDF (I think?) and therefore not likely to suck up that much paint. Think I gave mine 2 coats of paint and then that was it.
Well I went straight to painting my Oldwest buildings without coating them Pacific and they devoured the paint and ink like it was going out of style. I've subsequently coated every HDF and MDF building I've ever brought since. It would be too expensive not too!
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Post by: adhuin
If you want even surfaces, listen the poster above.
If you're happy with uneven / weathered look, then straight-up spraypainting them is good:
You can see the brown wood color bleeding partially through the paint. Bit like it's been out in the wilderness for a while.
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Post by: Alpharius
SirAngry wrote: Pacific wrote: Grot 6 wrote:How do these buildings take to paint?
Do they warp when you base them?
Are they build and play, or do you have much prep work with them?
Here is a topic mate about the issue of this type of building drinking paint http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/478142.page#4950294
I gave them a think layer of varnish first before spraypainting in white, but TBH I'm not sure how necessary it is as they are quite thin HDF (I think?) and therefore not likely to suck up that much paint. Think I gave mine 2 coats of paint and then that was it.
Well I went straight to painting my Oldwest buildings without coating them Pacific and they devoured the paint and ink like it was going out of style. I've subsequently coated every HDF and MDF building I've ever brought since. It would be too expensive not too! 
Coated them with what?
We need to know!
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Post by: BrookM
I'm guessing PVA glue.
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Post by: SirAngry
Alpharius wrote:SirAngry wrote: Pacific wrote: Grot 6 wrote:How do these buildings take to paint?
Do they warp when you base them?
Are they build and play, or do you have much prep work with them?
Here is a topic mate about the issue of this type of building drinking paint http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/478142.page#4950294
I gave them a think layer of varnish first before spraypainting in white, but TBH I'm not sure how necessary it is as they are quite thin HDF (I think?) and therefore not likely to suck up that much paint. Think I gave mine 2 coats of paint and then that was it.
Well I went straight to painting my Oldwest buildings without coating them Pacific and they devoured the paint and ink like it was going out of style. I've subsequently coated every HDF and MDF building I've ever brought since. It would be too expensive not too! 
Coated them with what?
We need to know! 
I mentioned above in one of my earlier posts, but yeah I should have been clear here too, I actually use good old fashioned hairspary. The sort Duran Duran would use to back comb their hair!
BrookM wrote:I'm guessing PVA glue.
I haven't actually tried watered down PVA glue, but for sure it works when sticking them together. I guess it would work as a seal although I personally haven't used it so I'm unable to vouch for it as a method myself.
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Post by: Alpharius
I still can't get over using Hairspray on them first!
Any particular brand/type?
Good will ol' cheap Aquanet do the trick?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Anything should do,
all it does if gives a quick drying coat to block up all the pores in the wood sp stuff doesn't sink in
Varnish works too (and is probably a bit harder wearing if they're gamed with a lot)
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Post by: SirAngry
Alpharius wrote:I still can't get over using Hairspray on them first!
Any particular brand/type?
Good will ol' cheap Aquanet do the trick?
lol.
I know, but actually hairspray is an insanely useful 'tool' to have around when painting. I use any old crappy hairspray the cheaper the better. Just don't end up using the other half's expensive stuff... Jesus will I not do that again. You'd think I'd killed a puppy!!!
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