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KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/12 21:00:28


Post by: Hoarmurel


Hello there

Zenit Miniatures (makers of the Nemesis wargame) have done a preview of their next project. This is a wargame set in the medieval Japan, so it's a historical one. At least, as far as i know...
I post this here because i think the minis could be interesting for some people.

Link of Zenit Miniatures: http://www.zenitminiatures.es/en/

They have showed some miniatures on a gaming store of Granada, in Spain:






The models are made of resin and have 30 mm. in size.

There were showed many more miniatures, and there are more pictures, so if someone would like, you can see some of them in this link.

No details about rules or anything else. However this is only a preview. In the website of Zenit, they say that the official launch for Kensei will be in another Spanish event, by the end of April.

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Update:

KENSEI is now up to pre-order.

They have also a new website with info about the game, some fluff and soon downloadable rules. Is this link: http://kensei.zenitminiatures.es/index.php?lang=en

The pre-orders can be found in the new Zenit Miniatures online store, on this link: http://shop.zenitminiatures.es/




I hope this could be interesting





KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/12 21:02:43


Post by: ph34r


Those models look pretty good. Are those 30mm bases?


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/12 21:04:32


Post by: Hoarmurel


Honestly, i don't know. I think the bases are 25 mm. ones, judging by the size of the models (they say 30 mm. so...)


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/12 21:53:22


Post by: MightyGodzilla


Nice to see some model not in heroic scale. Those things look really nice. I bet those are the same scale as the LOTR minis. 25mm I think. Anyways, nice paintjobs on nice minis makes me wanna spend.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/12 22:12:53


Post by: infinite_array


I hope the english version of the ruleset comes out quickly. I've already got my wallet out and ready!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/13 02:25:44


Post by: kenshin620


Looks pretty neat. Comes with some warrior monks too!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/13 02:32:30


Post by: darknightwing


A new game to use all those old L5R minis.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/13 03:44:26


Post by: krazynadechukr


ooooohhhh......Nippon Army will become reality for me finally? Me thinks YES!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/13 14:40:08


Post by: Void_walker


krazynadechukr wrote:ooooohhhh......Nippon Army will become reality for me finally? Me thinks YES!


My thoughts exactly or a TK terracotta army


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/16 00:59:20


Post by: Hoarmurel


So, it seems that i was wrong.

This is a fantasy game after all.

New info from this blog (in spanish)

I did it my best trying to translate it from spanish to english, but languages knowledge is not one of my great skills... So here it is, if somebody would like and know both languages, could check the upper link and correct the things that are wrong or could be misunderstood :



Kensei is a wargame of battles, inspired in the feudal Japan, but set in a fantasy world that will be revealed in a future. In the first launch of the game there won’t be magic or creatures, due to time requirements and to try to draw up the battles system for the game. For those that like historical battles, they can use these miniatures, because they are designed to fit the feudal Japan era.
In this game there will be three different factions: Kuge, Buke and Sohei. Each one will have their own units and common units that will be available for all the three factions.
About the rule set, the first thing to be released will be a beta that we expect to develop with the aid of the players. We hope it will grow with your help and contributions. It will be for download as a pdf file in a short time on the Zenit website.

The starter set for Kensei is due to be released on the 15th to 20th of May, and the preorder will be on the Zenit Miniatures website one month before.
This starter set will come with 21 miniatures: 5 ashigaru spearmen, 5 samurai with katana, 5 ashigaru with bows, 5 samurai with bows and 1 kensei. Only in the online orders made by the web will be included a free extra hero for the desired faction.



I hope this could be interesting


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/16 05:26:54


Post by: infinite_array


As I said over on Warseer, still very interesting.

The starter set is intriguing, and I like the online preorder. I wonder what the 3 factions will be like? One can only hope for a ninja faction.

So the game's definitely going to be unit based, probably ranked (square bases).

Maybe it'll be around the same conflict scale size as Wargods of Aegpytus?


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/16 06:27:51


Post by: Breotan


L5R had a pretty large range back in the late 90s. Not enough people played to sustain it though. Hope this company fares better.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/16 21:26:37


Post by: Kroothawk


Good thing Spanish miniature companies post their information in Spanish and ... Spanish. Like they are not interested in international customers. With a decent distribution, the Spanish sculptors could dominate the tabletop scene, but most don't care. Still hoping the best for these guys.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/16 23:54:45


Post by: Hoarmurel


Kroothawk wrote:Good thing Spanish miniature companies post their information in Spanish and ... Spanish. Like they are not interested in international customers. With a decent distribution, the Spanish sculptors could dominate the tabletop scene, but most don't care. Still hoping the best for these guys.


Well, I think you are being a bit unfair here.

Is my 'fault' to bring this info here, but the company only have spread this new on the spanish sites. It occurs the same with english or american small companies, that never will post their info in any other language than english... If somebody from other country (like myself in some cases) is interested in their models or games, he has to make all the things for himself, contact with the company in english, buy their models and pay a lot for the shipping cost and etc.

It's the same with small companies from other countries, if somebody from other country likes their models or games, i think they should do the things for themselves, and not demand too much... I think it's enough that, in most of the cases, those foreigner customers can contact the small companies in english, and They will be answered. I wonder what would happen, if me or another spanish customer, would contact any english or american small company in spanish... Probably they didn't even read those mails... So...

Besides that, Zenit is really a very small company, and with their other game, Nemesis, they didn't had the success they would have expected, despite they have an english edition (i think)...

So i think is fair to have a certain patience with them, and try to support them if you really like their work, if many people do that, i have not any doubt that with time they will launch their products in english and pay more attention to their international customers.

Only my opinion, i hope my english has been understandable enough


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/17 10:16:02


Post by: Kroothawk


Even small Polish companies try to get someone with basic English knowledge to make their website or ebay shop. That's how they finally grow and stop being small.
Just saying that Spanish companies could make lots of money if they just find someone with basic English knowledge to do their website. If they only want to sell to the Spanish speaking market, okay.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/17 11:54:22


Post by: Agamemnon2


Kroothawk wrote:Good thing Spanish miniature companies post their information in Spanish and ... Spanish. Like they are not interested in international customers. With a decent distribution, the Spanish sculptors could dominate the tabletop scene, but most don't care. Still hoping the best for these guys.


Frankly, why try to fly before you can crawl? The market's already jam-packed with half-baked ideas and johnny-come-latelys. I'm all right when them staying in their tiny local pond until they actually have a product to show the world.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/17 12:19:57


Post by: GBL


Agamemnon2 wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Good thing Spanish miniature companies post their information in Spanish and ... Spanish. Like they are not interested in international customers. With a decent distribution, the Spanish sculptors could dominate the tabletop scene, but most don't care. Still hoping the best for these guys.


Frankly, why try to fly before you can crawl? The market's already jam-packed with half-baked ideas and johnny-come-latelys. I'm all right when them staying in their tiny local pond until they actually have a product to show the world.


It would cost them very little to have website translations available for people overseas. You dont lose money by selling things overseas. In fact the extra revenue could help them generate their product. Seems win-win to me.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/17 14:10:30


Post by: Ahtman


infinite_array wrote:The starter set is intriguing, and I like the online preorder.


Preorder? What preorder? Didn't see it on the link given above.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/18 19:54:15


Post by: Kensei


Hello

I´m from Kensei. I hope this will close the discussion jeje.

Kensei miniatures are 30 mm, the bases are 25mm.

We will take out the game in May and you can preorder the basic case in April in http://www.zenitminiatures.es/es/. It will have 5 yari ashigaru, 5 katana samurai, 5 bow ashigaru and 1 kensei, if you order it in the web you will have one faction heroe free. The Nanigata monks, the No-dachi samurais and the teppo ashigaru will come out in June.

The game will be a fantasy battle game inspired in the medieval Japan. There will be three factions: Kuge, Sohei and Buke. The ninjas will be in the Kuge faction. The monks in the sohei. The game will be in english at the same time that it comes out, it will be on free discarge at zenit web site. This game will be a beta, becouse we have a lot of things to prove, there will be a limitated number of units and the creatures and magic will not be on it. The final game will have more units. We want to know the players opinion to change things that doesnt work.

We hope you will like it.

Excuse me for my english jeje and see you soon.



KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/18 21:19:54


Post by: paulson games


I love samurai stuff and so totally hard for this.

They'll fit in perfectly with my Okko minis.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/18 21:35:18


Post by: Erasoketa


GBL wrote:
Agamemnon2 wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Good thing Spanish miniature companies post their information in Spanish and ... Spanish. Like they are not interested in international customers. With a decent distribution, the Spanish sculptors could dominate the tabletop scene, but most don't care. Still hoping the best for these guys.


Frankly, why try to fly before you can crawl? The market's already jam-packed with half-baked ideas and johnny-come-latelys. I'm all right when them staying in their tiny local pond until they actually have a product to show the world.


It would cost them very little to have website translations available for people overseas. You dont lose money by selling things overseas. In fact the extra revenue could help them generate their product. Seems win-win to me.


Ahtman wrote:
infinite_array wrote:The starter set is intriguing, and I like the online preorder.


Preorder? What preorder? Didn't see it on the link given above.


The latest link provided before your comments, leads to a particular Spanish gaming blog, not to the company website. In the OP you can find the company website link. Also, one month before May is April, so I guess it's natural not having much more info about the preorder being in March


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/18 23:35:29


Post by: Kroothawk


Kensei wrote:Hello
I´m from Kensei. I hope this will close the discussion jeje.
Excuse me for my english jeje and see you soon.

Welcome! And good to see you posting here ... and in English. Now, after some googling, I know that jeje is Spanish for lol
Looking forward to the warrior monks with naginatas.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/19 00:00:52


Post by: Erasoketa


"jeje" is the way we write "hehe". Just that


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/19 07:04:25


Post by: Mastiff


Love the proportions and positions of the models. Great to see a strong historical flavour to the modeling, rather than heroic. They still have a lot of personality.

Thanks for sharing the pics here!


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GBL wrote:
It would cost them very little to have website translations available for people overseas. You dont lose money by selling things overseas. In fact the extra revenue could help them generate their product. Seems win-win to me.


Not much point if they don't have a reliable distribution in place. Opening up to new markets without being prepared just means negative press when they can't make potential customers happy. You absolutely can harm a business by expanding beyond your means, because it sets up unrealistic expectations.

Give 'em a chance to find their feet. It's a good-looking product, it should be around for a while.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/19 13:23:15


Post by: Talarn Blackshard


Kinda hope this gets a strong local following ... liking those minis so far ... might even buy those models once i get all moved into my house ... indeed ...



KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/19 16:09:29


Post by: Grot 6


Thats some good Bueno, right there.


I would like to get some of these factions, when will they be available? any way to get some comparison shots with other Oriental Fantasy/ midevil ( he he, Je Je) sculpts?

I can think of quite a few other games that the figures would work great with alongside.


Amazing first faction, BTW. I for one am vary interested.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/19 18:20:14


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Grot 6 wrote:I would like to get some of these factions, when will they be available? any way to get some comparison shots with other Oriental Fantasy/ midevil ( he he, Je Je) sculpts?

I can think of quite a few other games that the figures would work great with alongside.

Seconded. Used to play Clan War and still have my armies, so I wonder if the Zenit figures will be a reasonable match. (Have some of the old Ral Partha 25mm historical samurai and they are dwarfed by the CW minis.)

At the moment, the sohei faction interests me. Have plenty of samurai already, so playing sohei and yamabushi will be a nice change.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/20 05:25:41


Post by: Ouze


Kroothawk wrote:Looking forward to the warrior monks with naginatas.


That sounds awesome. I love this theme and am very excited about these minis.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/03/20 16:36:28


Post by: Shrapnelsmile


a bit of interest in this in my area, myself included, but only if the units are actually about 5 or 10 men strong at most. More than that we'll work on our War of the Rings armies.

a bit of a concern: the message translated into English (I don't have a quote right at the moment) talked about still working and hashing out the rules. they are awfully close to release to be in such dire straights. Is this going to be another system were your minis club or game group has to tweak the rules to make it playable properly? hopefully not.

Figs look good in our eyes. I enjoy that they are not super detailed ... base coat and a dip in Quick Shade strong tone should do the trick nicely.

keep the info coming






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a bit of interest in this in my area, myself included, but only if the units are actually about 5 or 10 men strong at most. More than that we'll work on our War of the Rings armies.

a bit of a concern: the message translated into English (I don't have a quote right at the moment) talked about still working and hashing out the rules. they are awfully close to release to be in such dire straights. Is this going to be another system were your minis club or game group has to tweak the rules to make it playable properly? hopefully not.

Figs look good in our eyes. I enjoy that they are not super detailed ... base coat and a dip in Quick Shade strong tone should do the trick nicely.

keep the info coming



KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/05 20:54:01


Post by: Hoarmurel


Some little news about this wargame and minis.

First about minis, in the Hispania Wargames event last week, the Zenit people showed some new models for Kensei (or i think they are...). Mainly the Kensei itself.

From this link: http://tabladelavarwargames.blogspot.com.es/2012/05/zenit-miniatures-previews-nuevas.html





And about the release date, it seems that the miniatures finally will be made of metal. Info from the same link (translated to english, or attempt of... ):

I'm writing to you to inform you that the release date of the game and miniatures has been delayed. We are going to change the production from resin to metal, so we will take time to get ready the release of this game. But we are doing this to be able to offer more affordable prices and so we can manage the expectations we have created. Besides that, the beta version of the game rules will be soon ready to be released.


I hope this could be interesting


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/06 06:22:20


Post by: Kilkrazy


I'm glad the figures will be in metal.

IMO resin is acceptable for a small skirmish but does not have the structural strength for thin parts when there are lots of models on the table to get caught up with.

I think they look great.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/06 06:38:43


Post by: Groundh0g


Love the Sohei models. The rest are nice too, but i prefer Perry's.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/06 09:26:19


Post by: Fenriswulf


Those Sohei look awesome. Very well done.

Might have to pick some of these up.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/06 19:06:05


Post by: kendoka


Amazing stuff, cannot wait to see them IRL.

The only disappointing mini is the Hero for the Kuge.
He has obviously never held a sword before in his entire life - and is doing the worst attempt on a hasso no kamae I have ever seen...
I will degrade that imposter to standard bearer

Edit: Upon examining the rank and file there are some "no clue on what I am supposed to do with this weapon-thingy"-minis also... - such as a samurai in a Christopher Lambert-esque pose and the archer with the horizontal bow (with the arrow on the wrong side).

In total (ignoring the peasants in warrior gear) they look ace though.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/07 23:40:19


Post by: MightyGodzilla


Lovin 'em! Gonna buy some. Will definitely check out the rules too. Very excited for this company to take off. Good luck guys!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/07 23:55:28


Post by: Commander Cain


Very nice indeed! The models themselves are very detailed and full of character. I feel that the arms look a little skinny compared to the legs but perhaps this is just the result of the armour?


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 00:33:38


Post by: MightyGodzilla


Commander Cain wrote:I feel that the arms look a little skinny compared to the legs but perhaps this is just the result of the armour?

Yeah, it's the armor. The pants (hakima) were made for movement and very puffy (kind of like MC Hammer back in the day). That's what's throwing you. A lot of great detail in this line.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 00:46:14


Post by: evolvingeye


Really cool models, I can think of tons of uses for these. Glad to know its not a historical game since the Samurai in the first pic has a Ninja-to instead of a Katana.. To a samurai the katana was not only his weapon but a status symbol, to use a peasant sword instead would be pretty shameful.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 01:45:38


Post by: Groundh0g


evolvingeye wrote:Really cool models, I can think of tons of uses for these. Glad to know its not a historical game since the Samurai in the first pic has a Ninja-to instead of a Katana.. To a samurai the katana was not only his weapon but a status symbol, to use a peasant sword instead would be pretty shameful.


<minor quibble>The origin of the ninja-to is not peasant swords, it's Ninja movies</minor quibble>

(sorry, as someone who has read more Japanese history books than any sane person should, 'ninja' is a four letter word.)


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 02:48:17


Post by: evolvingeye


Weather or not Ninjato actually existed is debated since all there are are replicas from the period, however regardless of origin that sword is not a katana or wkizashi so it just looks odd to me.

Not sure why ninja is such a bad thing for you. Sure they are portrayed in movies nothing like they actually were, they none the less did exist.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 04:23:43


Post by: Groundh0g


evolvingeye wrote:Weather or not Ninjato actually existed is debated since all there are are replicas from the period, however regardless of origin that sword is not a katana or wkizashi so it just looks odd to me.

Not sure why ninja is such a bad thing for you. Sure they are portrayed in movies nothing like they actually were, they none the less did exist.


"Ninja" did exist, but only if you use the word as it is *meant* to be used - a verb. Like "Viking". A farmer sent to spy on another town/city, a warrior riding ahead to scout the opposing forces, these are all acts of ninja. So to would a clan of Iga samurai who specialise in doing all these things.

A guy in black pyjamas throwing shurikens and disappearing in a puff of smoke is Edo-period (at earliest) fantasy, and has no place in a discussion of the Sengoku Jidai or earlier.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 04:26:33


Post by: deleted20250424


Shhhh, your realism is messing up my playing with toy soldiers.




Personally, I think they all look pretty great.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 09:21:51


Post by: Sir Motor


They looks awesome.

Metal is good. because Its heavier!

And I (Japanese)approve these models.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 13:01:21


Post by: Kroothawk


Groundh0g wrote:"Ninja" did exist, but only if you use the word as it is *meant* to be used - a verb. Like "Viking". A farmer sent to spy on another town/city, a warrior riding ahead to scout the opposing forces, these are all acts of ninja. So to would a clan of Iga samurai who specialise in doing all these things.

A guy in black pyjamas throwing shurikens and disappearing in a puff of smoke is Edo-period (at earliest) fantasy, and has no place in a discussion of the Sengoku Jidai or earlier.

Quick, tell Osprey that they released a book on something that doesn't exist! They might be interested


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 15:42:48


Post by: Grot 6


Anyone have any of the game books or models, yet? How do they look IRL?

I needs me some of those non- Ninja's for Pulp City.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 20:03:51


Post by: evolvingeye


Groundh0g wrote:
evolvingeye wrote:Weather or not Ninjato actually existed is debated since all there are are replicas from the period, however regardless of origin that sword is not a katana or wkizashi so it just looks odd to me.

Not sure why ninja is such a bad thing for you. Sure they are portrayed in movies nothing like they actually were, they none the less did exist.


"Ninja" did exist, but only if you use the word as it is *meant* to be used - a verb. Like "Viking". A farmer sent to spy on another town/city, a warrior riding ahead to scout the opposing forces, these are all acts of ninja. So to would a clan of Iga samurai who specialise in doing all these things.

A guy in black pyjamas throwing shurikens and disappearing in a puff of smoke is Edo-period (at earliest) fantasy, and has no place in a discussion of the Sengoku Jidai or earlier.



Exactly my point.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/08 23:50:29


Post by: Groundh0g


Kroothawk wrote:Quick, tell Osprey that they released a book on something that doesn't exist! They might be interested


I haven't read Turnbull's ninja book, but from what I've heard it's actually not so bad and he apparently does specifically rule out the black pyjamas... while Osprey's artist didn't get the memo it seems.

Turbull's samurai Osprey books in general are a very mixed bag and he has a habit of repeating the same information in just about every book he releases. The books by Anthony Bryant are far, far better (and his sengokudaimyo.com site is a pretty incredible resource too).


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/22 22:08:19


Post by: kendoka


Kroothawk wrote:
Groundh0g wrote:"Ninja" did exist, but only if you use the word as it is *meant* to be used - a verb. Like "Viking". A farmer sent to spy on another town/city, a warrior riding ahead to scout the opposing forces, these are all acts of ninja. So to would a clan of Iga samurai who specialise in doing all these things.
A guy in black pyjamas throwing shurikens and disappearing in a puff of smoke is Edo-period (at earliest) fantasy, and has no place in a discussion of the Sengoku Jidai or earlier.


Quick, tell Osprey that they released a book on something that doesn't exist! They might be interested


Not sure what you are implying, Kroothawk - but the "black clad secret assassins"-style ninja is nothing more than a myth, exactly as Groundh0g was stating.
No more real than tengu, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Men in Black, Santa Claus, Vikings with horned helmets, Marco Polo doing all of his adventures himself, Jesus making wine from water, etc.
Sorry if this crushed some illusions.

As for Osprey getting their facts wrong - they obviously sacrified truth for profit.
I have that book and it is full of contradictions - as if they couldn't go all in with the lies.

See also:
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/store/Zombies_9781849083959

Even Turnbull (who, among historicans, is a bad joke) admits that "ninja" is just a hoax (although one that earns him some serious bucks).


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/22 23:41:45


Post by: kenshin620


kendoka wrote:
No more real than tengu, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Men in Black, Santa Claus, Vikings with horned helmets, Marco Polo doing all of his adventures himself, Jesus making wine from water, etc.
Sorry if this crushed some illusions.


Lets please not go there

Although has there been any actual news recently on this?


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/22 23:47:37


Post by: Empchild


OMFG I want to run samurai now again for next years WAB tourney at adepticon... MUST HAVE!!!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/05/24 20:56:43


Post by: krazynadechukr


Does anyone have a clue when these come out?



Woops.....got my answer....

From their announcement:

"I'm writing to you to inform you that the release date of the game and miniatures has been delayed. We are going to change the production from resin to metal, so we will take time to get ready the release of this game. But we are doing this to be able to offer more affordable prices and so we can manage the expectations we have created. Besides that, the beta version of the game rules will be soon ready to be released."


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/06/06 22:28:34


Post by: krazynadechukr


August - November 2012... In a direct email I got from them....


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/06/07 00:59:33


Post by: carlos13th


The black pajamA thing in Reguards to ninjas come from japanese theatre as the would use stage hands to fulfil a ninja like role, the audience would be so used to ignoring stage hands that they would not see the assassin coming.

But yeah ninja as we think of them have no evidencethat they existed. It is pretty safe to say they would have employed some kind of spy.

Other option is that ninja wereso good that they left no proof :p

Also really looking forward to these and plan to re order.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/06/07 14:09:00


Post by: Grot 6


Any of the ninja guys up and ready yet?

Theres a few over at Pulp City that need some reinforcements.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/08 22:02:00


Post by: Kroothawk


Seems like they are about to make the full release. The website is prepared and already sells the first two characters:
http://shop.zenitminiatures.es/category.php?id_category=20





An army box deal is announced, but not yet live.


On their facebook page you see a lot of official pics, here a selection:
https://www.facebook.com/OficialKensei










KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/08 23:07:01


Post by: RandyMcStab


Sweet

I like the nearly Toshiro Mifune..


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/08 23:23:58


Post by: thesilverback


Get looking figures, have to see how the rules are and if not a Nippon is on the way.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/09 00:28:33


Post by: Aerethan


I don't even care about the rules or game, but I must have those models.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/09 01:05:14


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


RandyMcStab wrote:Sweet

I like the nearly Toshiro Mifune..
Agreed. Such a great ronin figure. And the mounted samurai is excellent. Still mainly interested in sohei though ...


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/09 01:15:59


Post by: Commander Cain


They are some seriously nice looking models! I especially like the mounted fella, very good posing!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/09 02:33:41


Post by: Fenriswulf


Welp, as soon as they are released they've got a sale pretty much. Their figures are excellent. Especially the mounted Samurai. Must have one of those.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/09 02:52:25


Post by: Thunderfrog


I can't seem to figure out what scale these models are in.


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KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/09 03:08:17


Post by: Groundh0g


Really impressed by those latest pics - the heroes and mounted samurai in particular. Beautiful. Sounds like 30mm is going to make them a poor mesh with other ranges though.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/09 04:47:40


Post by: Fenriswulf


I am hoping the scale isn't too much of a problem. The bases they are on are 25mm, so they don't look too bad to be honest.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/09 15:49:34


Post by: Valhallan42nd


Aerethan wrote:I don't even care about the rules or game, but I must have those models.


Absolutely. Astoundingly beautiful sculpts, and the fact that I'm playing Legend of the Five Rings currently is totally sealing the deal.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/10 06:23:26


Post by: YELLOWBLADES


These look amazing! the scuplts are great, even though im building an infinity terrian board im sure i could put a bit of cash towards a battleforce


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/10 11:41:55


Post by: Kavish


I had an idea years back to make "Samurai Space Marines". If these are in the same scale, I'll have the parts I need.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/10 14:31:59


Post by: Kroothawk


Kavish wrote:I had an idea years back to make "Samurai Space Marines". If these are in the same scale, I'll have the parts I need.

Puppet's War is working on power armour samurai heads.
Kromlech already has released these:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Kromlech-Cyber-Samurai-Heads-/150654434534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2313b43ce6
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Kromlech-Cyber-Samurai-Backpacks-/160642891996?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25671000dc
And Wargames Factory has cheap plastic samurai and Ashigaru as bits sources.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/10 16:28:46


Post by: Valhallan42nd


To add to that, I know that at least one bitz seller is selling back banners from the wargames factory set on the bay of e. Now, which one it is escapes me, as I bought them months ago...


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/10 18:23:16


Post by: Kroothawk


Hoard o'Bits, as usual.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/11 10:51:35


Post by: Kavish


Hey Thanks! Oooh! Power sword katanas!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/07/13 14:09:37


Post by: Fenriswulf


Kensai is up for pre-order. I might wait until more Sohei are on offer, as well as the mounted guy. Don't really need the army box right at this moment.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/08/06 13:23:17


Post by: Sikil


Hoarmurel wrote:
[...]
I'm writing to you to inform you that the release date of the game and miniatures has been delayed. We are going to change the production from resin to metal, so we will take time to get ready the release of this game. But we are doing this to be able to offer more affordable prices and so we can manage the expectations we have created. Besides that, the beta version of the game rules will be soon ready to be released.

[...]
I hope this could be interesting



SOLD! I liked the minis from the start, but I have my doubts on resin... With the production going over to metal I am all in!!!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/08/06 14:06:24


Post by: Hoarmurel


Ooops totally forgot this thread, i'm really sorry

I'll edit the first post to keep the info up-to-date.

BTW, the army box (starter box) is up to pre-order, as well as a website for the game, some useful links:

Kensei: http://kensei.zenitminiatures.es/index.php?lang=en

Zenit online store (makers of Kensei): http://shop.zenitminiatures.es/

Army Box pre-order: http://shop.zenitminiatures.es/product.php?id_product=114 - This contains 21 metal models. Pre-ordering the army box will cost 39 € until August 30th, the release date is September 15th.








KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/08/07 07:24:32


Post by: RogueRegault


Hmm. Kind of disappointing that the game seems to take place pre-Sengoku era. Would love to see hero figures for Oda Nobunaga, Date Masamune, and Akechi Mitsuhide. Also means no Tanegashima Ashigaru.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/09/26 19:30:21


Post by: Hoarmurel


New miniatures. These are the Teppo Ashigaru, if i'm not wrong:



http://tabladelavarwargames.blogspot.com.es/2012/09/zenit-miniatures-ashigaru-con-mosquetes.html

And the official rules for Kensei are now up to download. In spanish on this link:

http://kensei.zenitminiatures.es/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=6&id=216&Itemid=114&lang=es




KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/12/04 16:22:27


Post by: kenshin620


News about this game is quite small, only some minor tibits for the past few months

Anyways the rules are now free in english!

http://kensei.zenitminiatures.es/descargas/Kensei_Rulebook.pdf


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/12/04 16:30:57


Post by: Kroothawk



Blog has been removed.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2012/12/16 20:40:51


Post by: Kroothawk


December releases: http://shop.zenitminiatures.es/?id_lang=1

KUGE: TEPPOTAI (ASHIGARU WITH TEPPO)

Kuge families do not hesitate in sacrificing the people's religion in order to get foreign weapons. In exchange of the new weapons brought for beyond the seas, they let the namban to preach in their lands. Peasants learn faster to use an arquebus than a bow, so they have armed their servants with this dishonorable weapons which enable a heinin to kill a samurai from a distance.




BUKE: NO-DACHI SAMURAI (SAMURAI WITH DAI-KATANA)

This special unit of buke samurai is armed with a sword of large dimensions. These are chosen among the best warriors in the clan, sons of the great lords, and they are trained to brandish these huge swords.




SOHEI: NAGINATA SO HEI (MONKS WITH NAGINATA)

Beyond the walls of the gentle temples of the Dragon's Lands, the monks are trained in the art of the naginata, willing to defend their beliefs from what they consider the decadence of the samurai class. With their characteristic cloths, they cover their faces and hide their armor. They do not hesitate in waging war to defend the weakest against the abuses of the samurai class.




SHINOBI [Basic Hero]

The shinobi is a ninja specialized in hiding. He acts alone to move more easily among enemy troops and he is able to kill a great hero, or even the general, before anyone can avoid it.




GEISHA [Basic Hero]

The geisha is a living work of art. Since a very early age, she is trained in all the arts to satisfy men. Her presence captivates those worthy of her. She is an expert in arousing desire in the men's hearts and in taking them to submission. In these dark days, some of them have been trained to work as assassins for their clan.



KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/01/22 05:31:24


Post by: kenshin620


More releases





KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/01/23 03:06:41


Post by: Kensei_staff


Hi guys i am any like the "community manager" of this game.

If you have any question, i'm here for help you guys X)!!


See you!!

-> I love that ninjas, i'm waiting for them!

Guys in this pick you can see the true scale of our miniatures


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/01/23 04:05:06


Post by: cincydooley


How many models are typical in this game?


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/01/23 04:12:06


Post by: Kensei_staff


For an usually game?

It's depends but around 20-40 X)

But you also can play with a high number of miniatures.

In the game exists "diferents level" of match.

I help you cincydooley?


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/01/23 04:50:31


Post by: cincydooley


 Kensei_staff wrote:
For an usually game?

It's depends but around 20-40 X)

But you also can play with a high number of miniatures.

In the game exists "diferents level" of match.

I help you cincydooley?


Yeah, thanks! I may get a box or two to paint. Big fan of the naginata Sohei and, of course, the ninjas.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/01/23 12:49:09


Post by: Kensei_staff


 cincydooley wrote:
 Kensei_staff wrote:
For an usually game?

It's depends but around 20-40 X)

But you also can play with a high number of miniatures.

In the game exists "diferents level" of match.

I help you cincydooley?


Yeah, thanks! I may get a box or two to paint. Big fan of the naginata Sohei and, of course, the ninjas.


The ninjas are in a diferent army than the Nanigata Sohei D:
Ninja -> Kuge
All with sohei in his name -> Sohei (; D?)

One of the best things of the game it's that all the "armys" use the same basic troops (Ashigaru with spear/bow/sling, Samurai with katana/bow, the basic cavalry).

I'm happy about you will get an army box, that means that i'm doing my job (?)


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/01/30 08:43:20


Post by: Kensei_staff


We are working in a "quick start rules", a fast rules to start playing this game, with the most basic rules.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/22 23:28:14


Post by: Kroothawk


March releases:


The Kensei is a duelist who over many years of practice and dedication has reached spiritual perfection through use of the sword. He is a master of the tea ceremony and other arts like handwriting. The Kensei spends many hours in meditation and has reached the point where he is almost considered a Saint and only kills when absolutely necessary, without resentment or pain.



Samurais are trained in the use of the bow from an early age. This make them excellent archers.


Fukei offers simple affordable plastic/resin terrain designed for Kensei games:
http://www.plastcraftgames.com/es/59-fukei-designed-for-kensei













KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/23 01:38:39


Post by: Mathieu Raymond


Oh those houses are scratching an itch... I wonder if I could just have a few for a Malifaux board.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/23 02:16:21


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I love that terrain. Maybe I could make a temple with some of them and a couple of foo dogs from Reaper or Bushido...



KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/23 11:11:05


Post by: Kroothawk


Concerning terrain for Kensei, here are two other sources:

John Jenkins Design http://www.johnjenkinsdesigns.com/japan.htm





Hovel's http://www.hovelsltd.co.uk/oriental25.htm



KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/23 10:47:12


Post by: Fifty


This thread is making my wallet edge away from me nervously...

I think that rather than get one or two bits now, I might just wait, then go on an insane splurge when I get back from my expensive summer holiday to Australia..


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/28 19:34:27


Post by: Kensei_staff


Hello guys, sorry by my afk time ! but now i return to dakka dakka with a great announcement !

In April we will start our first indiegogo. ¿Why? To make fantasy creatures for KENSEI! And now some pictures






KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/28 20:20:56


Post by: Kroothawk


I would suggest trying to get a US bank account and do a kickstarter campaign. You usually get twice or more because of the greater popularity of kickstarter. Raging Heroes went the same way, even if it took a while to get it going.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/28 20:45:41


Post by: Commander Cain


Kroot is correct. Kickstarter will make you heaps more money! Whatever you decide to do however I wish you the best of luck.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/28 21:01:03


Post by: kenshin620


Ooh fantasy kensei, I'd love to see a unit of oni! Though I get the feeling there may only be 1 model


Also I could be wrong but dont Japanese Dragons have 3 toes instead of 4?


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/28 21:15:24


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Typically Japanese Dragons have 3 toes

their tradition is Dragons are Japanses, as they leave Japan they grow more toes

Chinese ones can have

3 (considered common or animalistic, anybody could use they symbolically),
4 (considered more intelligent, noble, brave etc, and only the nobility were able to use them symbolically)
5 (an imperial dragon, only the emperor was allowed to use this symbol, especially in gold)

their tradition is Dragons are Chinese, as they leave Shina they loose toes



KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/29 11:55:14


Post by: Kensei_staff


Thanks guys, but we try to do the account, but we have some problems.

Maybe in the future. Who knows?

The picture in black, of today, in 2 days this crazy run starts!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/29 12:14:09


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


I want Kappa!!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/29 14:42:50


Post by: Kensei_staff


Brace Yourselfs Kappas are cooming !


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/29 15:00:55


Post by: Jehan-reznor


keep the oni's japan like, any chance of an musashi miyamoto figure? i want to see kitsune! Onibaba! and Tengu of course!

Any plans of releasing this also in Japan?


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/29 17:45:35


Post by: Kensei_staff


Some Shops in Japan sells our products, i will search who, give me some time to ask to the Daimyo.

Tengu's, Joromugo, kappa's... we will try to make, about 40 diferent models!.

And a present for dakka dakka :




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 Jehan-reznor wrote:
keep the oni's japan like, any chance of an musashi miyamoto figure? i want to see kitsune! Onibaba! and Tengu of course!

Any plans of releasing this also in Japan?



This shop sells our products

http://www.hobbymetal-iconoclasm.com/


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/30 04:50:23


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Please find a way to do this as a Kickstarter. I'm in for at least a dragon, but if you can do this as a Kickstarter, it will be much easier for me to adjust my pledge upwards.


...and hide that fact from the wife.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/30 10:21:24


Post by: Kensei_staff


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Please find a way to do this as a Kickstarter. I'm in for at least a dragon, but if you can do this as a Kickstarter, it will be much easier for me to adjust my pledge upwards.


...and hide that fact from the wife.


We can´t do this like a kickstarter this time, maybe in the future if we need another crowdfunding we will try again to make a kickstarter.

Today picture!

"Death Omnyouji"


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/30 10:30:05


Post by: Jehan-reznor


Oh, iconoclasm is where i buy most of my stuff, will ask him the next time i go there


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/31 12:01:04


Post by: Kensei_staff


Today our campaing of crowdfunding starts!

Help us to take the fantasy for Hymukai!


http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/kensei-fantasy-creatures--2


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/31 12:06:06


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


 Kensei_staff wrote:


And a present for dakka dakka :





Groovy!


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/31 14:52:20


Post by: Janzerker


 Kensei_staff wrote:
Today our campaing of crowdfunding starts!

Help us to take the fantasy for Hymukai!


http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/kensei-fantasy-creatures--2


Just let me say. THOSE PERKS ARE A STEAL!

As a matter of fact, some calculations show the next:

Taisho -> 195€ , Retailer Price -> 342,90€ ( 50% discount) for a total of 92 miniatures + 2 scenery terrain buildings

Daimyo -> 275€ , Retailer Price -> 454,80€ (more than 60% of discount) for a total of 110 minitures + 4 scenery terrain buildings

AND WORLDWIDE SHIPPING FOR FREE. (honestly, Northamerican companies could learn from this)





KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/31 15:00:07


Post by: Cyporiean


It'd be great if there was some sort of '2 Player' bundle option


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/03/31 15:48:05


Post by: Kensei_staff


 Cyporiean wrote:
It'd be great if there was some sort of '2 Player' bundle option


Some of our packs, could be used by 2 players, for example, the "Taisho" perk.

It have :
Heros
1 Mounted Daimyo/Taisho/Busho
2 Daisho Samurái
Basic units:
2 Yumi Samurai Box
2 Katana Samurai Box
2 Yari Ashigaru Box
2 Yumi Ashigaru Box
special& Elite units:
4 Yari Kiba Musha
Kuge:
1 Ninja Box
2 Teppo Box
Sohei
2 Banigata Sohei box
Buke
2 No-Dachi Samurai Box

With all this and a few heros, you can make 2 o 3 armys, 1 Kuge army, 1 Sohei army and 1 Buke Army.
It isn´t a 2º player perk, it is a perk for 1-2-3 players !


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/04/01 12:09:25


Post by: Kensei_staff


I will ask all your questions guys!
The indiegogo ¡STARTS!



KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/04/01 12:54:14


Post by: Kroothawk


It is good tradition to start a separate thread for indiegogo/kickstarter campaigns, so that this thread is kept clean from all those "I am in" / "Only 200$ till next stretch goal" / "have got my parcel" spam posts.


KENSEI - Wargame of feudal Japan - Official Rules for download [P. 3] @ 2013/04/01 12:58:40


Post by: Jehan-reznor


Talked to my retailer and he has it, just have to talk about the price