So.. anyone see the blurb from WGF on Facebook showing the Shadokesh and touting them nearing production?
"Mark Mondragon of Dreamforge has been hard at work sculpting the Shadokesh, which are the opposing force to the Eisenkern. Here are some sneak previews- they are getting close to heading towards production!"
ski2060 wrote: So.. anyone see the blurb from WGF on Facebook showing the Shadokesh and touting them nearing production?
"Mark Mondragon of Dreamforge has been hard at work sculpting the Shadokesh, which are the opposing force to the Eisenkern. Here are some sneak previews- they are getting close to heading towards production!"
I saw it, it's kind of a funny statement though.
There's 'in production', 'heading towards production'- and this one is 'getting close to heading towards production'.
MrMoustaffa wrote: Hearing that talk about legal stuff kind of makes me surprised that GW didn't try to shut down the Leviathan kit. Although to be fair, when the kickstarter had started we had no idea Knights were on the way.
Would've been pretty crazy to see.
That kit was already in development when GW took a swing at the Blockhead. I made sure it was protected in the agreement with GW, just so they did not come back later with another issue on a kit they had already seen and not objected to. Back then Pro-bono was hard to find. I now know where to go and they are local to me in San Fran.
ski2060 wrote: So.. anyone see the blurb from WGF on Facebook showing the Shadokesh and touting them nearing production?
"Mark Mondragon of Dreamforge has been hard at work sculpting the Shadokesh, which are the opposing force to the Eisenkern. Here are some sneak previews- they are getting close to heading towards production!"
I saw it, it's kind of a funny statement though.
There's 'in production', 'heading towards production'- and this one is 'getting close to heading towards production'.
So, it could be a very long wait.
Yep... They cannot start work on the splits until after the Chinese New Years.... they are still clearing the decks.
As the kits get out into the wilds, some are posting up great work on one of my FB pages. I love seeing what you all come up with. The paint work, the custom builds, etc. are all things I wish I had time for... Just wanted to say thank you to everyone posting here and on FB.
Mathieu Raymond wrote: I wonder if it would be easy to scrape the male face and drop in a female face?
You might need to use a dremel or pin-vice to hollow out the hood.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And I think Mantic's undead kits come with a hollow hood already, although I don't know if a woman's face would fit into it.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: It might be easier to use one as a template to form a greenstuff hood over (so you're not dependant on your sculpting skills)
then put than on to your female head
This seems like a solid idea. Using one of the Black Widow heads designed for a helmet would make decent practice at least.
That is a rather simple, yet effective conversion that Mark showed. I am always amazed by how versatile the DFG kits are.
NoseGoblin wrote: As the kits get out into the wilds, some are posting up great work on one of my FB pages. I love seeing what you all come up with. The paint work, the custom builds, etc. are all things I wish I had time for... Just wanted to say thank you to everyone posting here and on FB.
That head swap makes for an absolutely awsome figure. Looks right at home in the 40k universe as Imperial power armor that is non-Astartes in manufacture, which is something that is actually lacking in GW models.
I love this one. Love it. And since all of my Deathwing wear helmets, I have plenty of hoods to go around.
Inquisitor awesome!
Mathieu Raymond wrote:I wonder if it would be easy to scrape the male face and drop in a female face?
Or bob cut heads?Sisters of Battle!
Way ahead of you. I just need to take a decent picture. And I never thought I'd say this... but I am completely out of bolters. I have 2 left in my whole bitz box.
Now there's some motivation to start doing some of the kitbashing I was looking forward to. I'm very partial to a lot of the flavoured SM power weapons. I stocked up on Sanguiunary Guard ones, here's hoping they look as good as that head swap. Dark Angel big shields would probably match too. Oh also grabbed some GK falchions, swords and halberds, could work quite nicely. About the only thing I don't find perfect about Valkir is the weapons. Maybe painted up with nice power effects they'll be good.
Hard to deny that those don't look pretty damn good. Just a few gothic touches like maybe some brazier-type exhaust vents on the backpack and some greenstuffed Ecclesiarchy amulets and job's a good 'un
Hard to deny that those don't look pretty damn good. Just a few gothic touches like maybe some brazier-type exhaust vents on the backpack and some greenstuffed Ecclesiarchy amulets and job's a good 'un
Max Mini makes a gothic "power pack" that fits what you're describing to a T.
The craziest bit is that even by the time you bought those, the statuesque heads, and the plastic models, it's still cheaper than GW
Hard to deny that those don't look pretty damn good. Just a few gothic touches like maybe some brazier-type exhaust vents on the backpack and some greenstuffed Ecclesiarchy amulets and job's a good 'un
Max Mini makes a gothic "power pack" that fits what you're describing to a T.
The craziest bit is that even by the time you bought those, the statuesque heads, and the plastic models, it's still cheaper than GW
You could build a time machine, hire thugs, go to the future and kidnap an army of sisters of battle with vehicles, shrink them down and bring them back as your tabletop army and it would be cheaper than GW. They would also be grateful that you saved them from being wiped out by an imperial army just to show they are hardcore.
But but but.. doesn't Dreamforge have already female troopers coming very soon?
I do like these.. if you wanted to mix in some Sisters-like helmets, the Spartan type from Anvil looks somewhat similar to the official helmet.. kinda.. It's kinda funny.. none of the other places I would normally look had anything close ;/
Quick question - is the above (awesome!) conversion possible using the Support box? I'm not sure I want - or can afford - the £40+ Heavy Trooper box just to make a handful of not-SoB
Hard to deny that those don't look pretty damn good. Just a few gothic touches like maybe some brazier-type exhaust vents on the backpack and some greenstuffed Ecclesiarchy amulets and job's a good 'un
Max Mini makes a gothic "power pack" that fits what you're describing to a T.
Yep, exactly what I was thinking:
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The craziest bit is that even by the time you bought those, the statuesque heads, and the plastic models, it's still cheaper than GW
Although kinda true, it's also that the original Sisters are so exceptionally overpriced that this multi-part conversion works at all.
Wow, I love both the hooded Valkir, and the SOB conversions!! Very, very cool. I have felt somewhat that the heads might not be the strongest parts of these models (hard to do in HIPS maybe). Both of those head swap conversions take the kits from being awesome to freaking ridiculous. I am impressed!
MLaw wrote: But but but.. doesn't Dreamforge have already female troopers coming very soon?
I do like these.. if you wanted to mix in some Sisters-like helmets, the Spartan type from Anvil looks somewhat similar to the official helmet.. kinda.. It's kinda funny.. none of the other places I would normally look had anything close ;/
there are, many people felt they look too weedy with GW weapons in their hands though. I took one of mine and tried a couple of weapons to see how they looked
IMO, the problem with the Puma is that we have both Gear Krieg and Dust Tactics doing very similar work:
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Yes, the models all differ in details, but at a very high level, they are casually similar. OTOH, the Leviathan is very different, it stands alone. If I were doing it, the Eisenkern Scout Walker would be laid out as a cross between an IG Sentinel and GK Dreadknight, with Leviathan Crusader styling.
It's a visual reference to historical WW2 armored vehicle styling.It's similar for a reason.It's intended to be.
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It's no different really than how Space Marine Rhino's are HEAVILY based on the USA's M113 armored transport.
The US in Gear Krieg and Dust both also feature what is essentially a Sherman tank on legs. That's generally how you do Weird War 2 or Stahl-helms in space. You use visual elements from the era you want to reference.
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MLaw wrote: That's because GW has stupidly oversized 1/35 scale (or larger) weapons..
Nothing new about that.Big 'ol guns is part of the GW charm from day one.
I'm very well aware of that Mark was referencing the SdKfz 250/251 designs. Thing is, he already updated the Hanomag, and the StuG. The light walker could have been done far better.
And besides, I'm pretty sure the Leviathan itself is all new, nothing to do with WW2 armor.
Yeah, the light walker will see some revision for sure. I like the legs but the rest is up for grabs ATM.
I likely will not start rehashing that kit until after the Shadokes bulk forces have been completed in CAD and the StuG has been sent in for mold splits.
MLaw wrote: Mark if you find a way to release the heavy weapons separately I'll send you e-cookies!
Seriously, I just want to have 5 man squads with 5x lascannon (whatever you're calling them) and possibly that ridiculously oversized cannon thing..
have to agree here. while id like to send money instead of e-cookies its hard to justify buying the heavy weapons box when I want multiples of one heavy weapon and none of the others.
I understand though that it may not be useful in the dreamforge universe and only useful in others but nonetheless, its the same reason I wont buy the awesome eisenkern troopers heavy weapon box.
There is always the possibility of splitting boxes with fellow dakkanauts. I for one would prefer the Nova cannon and the AA guns, so that is almost a perfect split with some people.
Mathieu I would be tempted to offer an exchange but I am going to have to wait a few months before I can get this.. too many Kickstarters that need to be paid off :/
Mathieu cool.. if you're going to do any with flamers/incinerators, check out the link I posted about Brother Vinni's female respirator heads. I'm digging your conversions but I'm thinking after a few squads, those same Statuesque heads are going to get a little repetitive.
Yeah, I'd say that sword could probably use another 1/4" of haft and a pommel for sure.
Azazelx wrote: Looks great, Mathieu - though I'll also jump on the bandwagon and agree that the sword she's holding needs a longer shaft and a head on it.
I could make it into a singing sword, to go full novelty.
Actually, that head just comes from the panzerjager set. It's the helmeted head, but since it comes with optional helmet, I just sculpted a bit of green stuff hair. And I am soooo sculpting them the Statuesque way next time: less strands, more style.
If you go for a good balance of naked heads and helmets, then you can really stretch even just one set of heads.
Azazelx wrote: Looks great, Mathieu - though I'll also jump on the bandwagon and agree that the sword she's holding needs a longer shaft and a head on it.
Those are always the parts that need more attention.
But that is an excellent conversion even if I does stop just at the brink of satisfaction.
In other news:
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That is a Nemesis Falchion, just so you know, and it still looks way too huge, on that picture.
I knew my stocking up on cheap 40k weapon bitz was a good idea! With Valkir and Mantic peacekeepers on the way, I figured weapons would be a big part of "40kifying" any conversions I did. Grabbed 40 of those falchions because while small for 40k, as you see they're large in general heheh. I do tend to prefer the look of 40k weapons if the scale matches too.
Next to a standard GW Marine captain, this is the size a SM ought to be! "Heh, My Relic blade looks better than yours!"-Valkir captain. "Shut up!"-SM Captain to Valkir [/img] Please keep in mind that the Dreanforge bases are shorter than the GW ones. On the same bases, the Valkir is taller than GW mini.
Has anyone heard anything in regards to the mis-cast APC sprue? When I initially contacted them they said China would need to send over the replacements, and it would be wholly unsurprising if that's snarled up between CNY and the shipping situation on the west coast, but I figured I'd make sure I'm still in a holding pattern for that.
I did ping WGF this morning and they confirmed they're still waiting on parts (owing to the reasons mentioned previously undoubtedly) and they have a list to send out which they hope will be in the next week-ish. Just figured I'd share that in case there are other people who were waiting and had kind of put that in the back of their mind like I had.
They're also rather distinctive, and yet not copyrightable. So a good thing to help sell kits, regardless of one person's aesthetic taste. Besides, if one person likes them, you and they cancel one another out just like that.
Actually, from a Militaristic Point of View (PoV), bob cuts means ease f helmet use for female units wearing power armor helmets, or any helmet, or they would need to tuck and pin their hair for helmet use as hair would stop a good seal from taking place, and the helmets and masks even for the GWSoB's took that into account. May look ugly, but it has practicality in mind.
JohnHwangDD wrote: Sisters can have buzz cuts and shaved heads just like any trooper.
But they are not any trooper they are the militant arm of the Eccliasary, they have also propaganda function to fulfill. And Bob-cuts give that stoic look.
SoB have to use bleach or a severe dye as they seem to go Black hair or white hair. I would think red, the Imperiums' favorite color would also be acceptable.
Eisenkern females would likely just go brown/black/chestnut/blonde/normal redhead/strawberry blonde.
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Redheads are best heads. Though in 40k's fluff I suppose that would say to the Grey Knights "hey, we're full of blood...you know...in case there's demons around" so I can see why they'd go with neutral tones.
I'm ambivalent on the idea of female val'kir heads. I mean, sure as an accessory option I guess they wouldn't be bad to pad out a hypothetical sprue, but that armor seems so bulky and with the masks and helmets who knows what's underneath anyway? I realize that makes the head more important to establish that it's a woman, but with after-market options I'm not sure it wouldn't be more betterer for Mark to partner with someone else for those random bits so he can focus on the big deliverables (Shadokesh, Hover StuG, etc.). It'd be nice if he could get the parts more tailored to the models themselves though rather than slapping in something intended for Guard/Sisters and hoping it looks ok. Certainly a place for small resin/metal bits to add character/flavor to the models; not everything needs to be in HIPS especially if it's kind of a "niche-within-a-niche" (wherein market research would clearly be otiose-within-otiose).
Krinsath wrote: Redheads are best heads. Though in 40k's fluff I suppose that would say to the Grey Knights "hey, we're full of blood...you know...in case there's demons around" so I can see why they'd go with neutral tones.
I'm ambivalent on the idea of female val'kir heads. I mean, sure as an accessory option I guess they wouldn't be bad to pad out a hypothetical sprue, but that armor seems so bulky and with the masks and helmets who knows what's underneath anyway? I realize that makes the head more important to establish that it's a woman, but with after-market options I'm not sure it wouldn't be more better for Mark to partner with someone else for those random bits so he can focus on the big deliverables (Shadokesh, Hover StuG, etc.). It'd be nice if he could get the parts more tailored to the models themselves though rather than slapping in something intended for Guard/Sisters and hoping it looks ok. Certainly a place for small resin/metal bits to add character/flavor to the models; not everything needs to be in HIPS especially if it's kind of a "niche-within-a-niche" (wherein market research would clearly be otiose-within-otiose).
Yeah, I just was making clear, the women serving in the military with me were either cutting their hair to the page boy, pixie or whatever regs allowed, or pinning it up so their hats and helmets would be able to be more effective, as well as the way Gas masks seal. Totally bald for either gender was consider too elaborate a hair style. it had to be between 1/16th of an inch to 3 inches for men. Women had more leeway. Some kept their hair about shoulder length or just shortened it more. Practicality, which is what I see with Marks Lady troopers. I will make me some mix, a box of the Panzerjaegers and more stormies for a mixture, as they got the helms/masks the older Fallschirmjaegers were to have had.
Just my 2 cents, but I love the SoB bob cuts. It just happens to be a style I'm rather fond of. I often encourage my wife to sport such a cut, as it looks rather nice on her (though her hair is dirty blond, not black). She usually likes it longer though :(
I think that GW is also trying to evoke the page-boy/squire kinda of look, or maybe something monastic-esque, by their use of this style with the SoB. Though also let's consider that SoB have only had two releases, the original and then just a little bit of new stuff with the Witchhunters codex. If they ever get a new release, it's an opportunity to change, add to, or redesign the line.
Just finished my Panzer Fraus (or whatever they're called) fun kit, needs more diversity in the arms though.
Lots of work matching pairs of arms to get the same 'holding gun across the body pose' 10 times. Would have likes some way to do a slung rifle, pointing, waving, aiming a pistol etc.
Now sure why it came with 3 sets of extra legs though. I think arms are so much more useful.
Also looked at the APC and... Mark are you insane? Are you completely nuts?
I mean 2 sprues for the seated soldiers, each model in 6 or 7 parts including separate hands?
For a unit that will be inside the tank?
That is beyond...
I mean wow.
Not sure if I'm impressed with your dedication or horrified.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Just finished my Panzer Fraus (or whatever they're called) fun kit, needs more diversity in the arms though.
Lots of work matching pairs of arms to get the same 'holding gun across the body pose' 10 times. Would have likes some way to do a slung rifle, pointing, waving, aiming a pistol etc.
Now sure why it came with 3 sets of extra legs though. I think arms are so much more useful.
Also looked at the APC and... Mark are you insane? Are you completely nuts?
I mean 2 sprues for the seated soldiers, each model in 6 or 7 parts including separate hands?
For a unit that will be inside the tank?
That is beyond...
I mean wow.
Not sure if I'm impressed with your dedication or horrified.
Each Eisenkern is a model unto itself. I am saving the seated troopers for other projects as I have several units of stormies made already.
Yes, I beleive Mark is insane with the level of detail he put into these kits. I have finally finished my 3 Apcs all in a different setup. The heavy troops are some of the best plastic kits I have seen. Mark I wish further success can't wait for the stug to come I need 3 of them also.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Just finished my Panzer Fraus (or whatever they're called) fun kit, needs more diversity in the arms though.
Lots of work matching pairs of arms to get the same 'holding gun across the body pose' 10 times. Would have likes some way to do a slung rifle, pointing, waving, aiming a pistol etc.
Now sure why it came with 3 sets of extra legs though. I think arms are so much more useful.
Also looked at the APC and... Mark are you insane? Are you completely nuts?
I mean 2 sprues for the seated soldiers, each model in 6 or 7 parts including separate hands?
For a unit that will be inside the tank?
That is beyond...
I mean wow.
Not sure if I'm impressed with your dedication or horrified.
The accesory sprue that came with the stormtroopers works really well with the black widows kit. If you get more, use the upgrade kit with them. One of those boxes would give you enough variety to outfit a platoon of the girls with unique poses, gestures, and kits.
Should I ever get the Hanomag kit, I want to turn the seated Eisenkern into a speederbike squad. Should be pretty easy, give or take the speederbikes themselves.
(I'll probably use the mule bodies from the accessories kit along with some spare weapon bits, plasticard and gunpla wings and fins. I'll just get around to it sometime next decade.)
The accesory sprue that came with the stormtroopers works really well with the black widows kit. If you get more, use the upgrade kit with them. One of those boxes would give you enough variety to outfit a platoon of the girls with unique poses, gestures, and kits.
Has anyone tried this yet? I did think of it but was worried the male arms would make the women look like gorillas rather than guerillas.
But I still think there was real estate on the female sprue that could have been better used on arms.
It's not a huge thing, IMHO it moves the kit from 5 stars to 4, but I wanted to throw that out.
The accesory sprue that came with the stormtroopers works really well with the black widows kit. If you get more, use the upgrade kit with them. One of those boxes would give you enough variety to outfit a platoon of the girls with unique poses, gestures, and kits.
Has anyone tried this yet? I did think of it but was worried the male arms would make the women look like gorillas rather than guerillas.
But I still think there was real estate on the female sprue that could have been better used on arms.
It's not a huge thing, IMHO it moves the kit from 5 stars to 4, but I wanted to throw that out.
Consider it confirmed The arm size is the same, the only arm that may be a tad too long is the 45 degree angle arm if you rotate it down to the side. With a small bit of trimming it will work as well. The arm selection for the ladies is the same as the male. Hip fired, shoulder fired and at the ready. The Stormtrooper accessory set was created to allow the modeler to make poses out side of those three selections.
Consider it confirmed The arm size is the same, the only arm that may be a tad too long is the 45 degree angle arm if you rotate it down to the side. With a small bit of trimming it will work as well. The arm selection for the ladies is the same as the male. Hip fired, shoulder fired and at the ready. The Stormtrooper accessory set was created to allow the modeler to make poses out side of those three selections.
Looking forward to it!
Mysterious hoods please!
And could let me know why the set has 3 extra sets of legs?
Consider it confirmed The arm size is the same, the only arm that may be a tad too long is the 45 degree angle arm if you rotate it down to the side. With a small bit of trimming it will work as well. The arm selection for the ladies is the same as the male. Hip fired, shoulder fired and at the ready. The Stormtrooper accessory set was created to allow the modeler to make poses out side of those three selections.
Looking forward to it!
Mysterious hoods please!
And could let me know why the set has 3 extra sets of legs?
It just seems odd...
Two of the leg sets that are optional are kneeling, this pose is often an issue if players use true LOS. The males have these as extra/optional as well.
The other was so that you could choose a more static or more dynamic pose for the force as two of them are simply standing with weight transferred to the rear leg. This pose works well for the 'at the ready' arm but not so well for the other arm poses.
Well, Mark I have to say I have enjoyed all the kits so far, for the nose end of the 1st Hanomag, I went armored nose with the shield and adler crest
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The model went together nicely so far and I have hit the stage to pain the interior, and I think I will use an old interior buff coloration to go over the white primer here
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the "Buff" is on the left, Reaper calls it tusk ivory
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The accesory sprue that came with the stormtroopers works really well with the black widows kit. If you get more, use the upgrade kit with them. One of those boxes would give you enough variety to outfit a platoon of the girls with unique poses, gestures, and kits.
Has anyone tried this yet? I did think of it but was worried the male arms would make the women look like gorillas rather than guerillas.
But I still think there was real estate on the female sprue that could have been better used on arms.
It's not a huge thing, IMHO it moves the kit from 5 stars to 4, but I wanted to throw that out.
I have on a few. Didn't do anything nuts, but a lot of the kit fits on them and the extra arms and hands look just fine on them. You really can't tell a difference and it took me a while to find which ones I did it to. As far as I can tell, the arms are the exact same length
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I do agree that the extra legs was kind of weird, It took me a good while to figure out that I hadn't put something together wrong after I found them on the sprue.
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Far as I can tell all that's required is swapping the 2 HBs for a las cannons (and the kit comes with a TL las cannon) and adding a rear-facing heavy stubber.
And if we believe the other rumours floating about, I might be super happy I chose to use Valkir instead of bona fide S0B from GW, because of all the money I'll have saved.
Someone asked me to post some pictures of Eisenkern stormtroopers with non-Germanic helmets. This seemed like the appropriate place. Apologies if I got it wrong.
Cool Bob, those are very useful. Unfortunately, none of the heads seem to fit aesthetically, so my hopes of quality non space nazis is foiled, at least until I decide to buy some puppetswar or maxmini heads to get some decent sci-fi troopers.
Gallahad wrote: Cool Bob, those are very useful. Unfortunately, none of the heads seem to fit aesthetically, so my hopes of quality non space nazis is foiled, at least until I decide to buy some puppetswar or maxmini heads to get some decent sci-fi troopers.
I think PuppetsWar look good- I'll try to get a pic for you soon.
Which MaxMIni are you interested in, I have a selection of those too.
I've just matte-coated my 50th Valkir. It's a bit of an overload, to be honest. The three Valkir kits are amazing, and even by doing a few hand swaps, or judicious cutting, you can get a lot of positions from those arms.
Gallahad wrote: Cool Bob, those are very useful. Unfortunately, none of the heads seem to fit aesthetically, so my hopes of quality non space nazis is foiled, at least until I decide to buy some puppetswar or maxmini heads to get some decent sci-fi troopers.
I think PuppetsWar look good- I'll try to get a pic for you soon.
Which MaxMIni are you interested in, I have a selection of those too.
Thank you! I was thinking of the MaxMini space police helmets , or various puppetswar ones.
Gallahad wrote: I was thinking of the MaxMini space police helmets or various puppetswar ones.
Okay, I have those space police helmets. I think they look fine together- I'll try to do a pic when I get home tonight. I also have the generic looking sci-fi heads that PuppetWar do.
Gallahad wrote: Cool Bob, those are very useful. Unfortunately, none of the heads seem to fit aesthetically, so my hopes of quality non space nazis is foiled, at least until I decide to buy some puppetswar or maxmini heads to get some decent sci-fi troopers.
I think PuppetsWar look good- I'll try to get a pic for you soon.
Which MaxMIni are you interested in, I have a selection of those too.
Thank you! I was thinking of the MaxMini space police helmets , or various puppetswar ones.
Max Mini makes quality stuff, can definitely couch for them. I believe they let you order specific ones off that sprue if you want as well so you can have a uniform look.
From left to right: MaxMini, Mad Robot, Puppets War 'Striker', Puppets War 'Space Guardsmen'.
Perfect! Thank you so much Dr. Mathias! I think my favorites are the MaxMini, and the Puppetswar space guardsmen. Which head does everybody else think looks best?
I have ordered some of the anti-tank cannons from Dreamforge, when I can get aa 2nd Keilerkopf, I will put them in place of the HMGs as a "b" variant of the Hanomag.
Jehan-reznor wrote: I want to know when the conversion kits for the APC comes available and if it is possible to magnetize the stuff so i don't have to buy 3 APC's.
The Thor can be magnetized, the Odin Loki cannot as it replaces the interior and cannot be removed due to the opening size at the top of the APC.
Azazelx wrote: Any ETA on those few missing parts to be sent out?
I don't know but I hope its soon. I know WGF US has the parts but they very recently went through some major transitions here in the US and I think that they have been pretty stacked with work. I have brought it up a few times and I know they are very aware of it as well. I think its just a mater of finding a time slot to start sending them out at this point.
Made an inquisitor from Valkir parts, anvil industries, max mini and forgot the name of the company of the halberd. Used one of the dream forge heads yo make the IMEF reaper figure look like one of the bad guys from killzone 2
Jehan-reznor wrote: Made an inquisitor from Valkir parts, anvil industries, max mini and forgot the name of the company of the halberd. Used one of the dream forge heads yo make the IMEF reaper figure look like one of the bad guys from killzone 2
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Very cool conversion! I really think the backpack completes the look.
Seems i am the only one posting here Put the Valkir together, my only gripe are the wheel side skirts that are a bitch to attach. and the wheel brake covers easily get off too for the rest a great model.
Still neeed to do touch ups grill, lights and the weapon.
I like your explanation of the color scheme, at first I thought I had gone colorblind switching my greens for yellows and reds, but then I red your post and remembered the old rogue trader Salamanders scheme and that we are fighting on other worlds .
Also was just thinking the Eisenkern will be my figures for the dakkadakka Maelstorm's Edge game as I just can't get behind the preview pics there yet.
Is there an update? The new posts make me think there's an update...even a Dakka Mod posting so there must be an update, right?
Actually, shouldn't the Panzerjagers and APC conversions be hitting retail here shortly? Or are they similarly snarled with internal changes at WGF's warehouse?
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FYI i just noticed that northstar miniatures have got quite a few dreamforge kits for about 1/3 off at the moment, including the 15mm leviathan for £28 instead of £45!
and the valkir kits are all reduced too - bargains!
Shipping is dear lately yeah, I'm looking at making a local group order to share the load. Need those APCs and some regular Valkir. Lot of love for DFG goods around here.
Shipping is insane... Go to USPS.com and enter in a priority international mail at 1.1lbs. It’s crazy!
Just a few years back the same package was $6.95
Better off buying local if you’re not this side of the pond. For the UK and other heavily taxed EU, between the 20% VAT 10% fees and the shipping….
Have you considered using First Class shipping instead of Priority NoseGoblin? I haven't shipped nearly so much as you of course, but I have had good luck using First Class for international shipments since the insane price hike in postal rates last year. Would love to hear your thoughts on it!
I appreciate mark coming in here I always love seeing the creators making the rounds in the forums, makes them more personable and less GW wannabes.
The sale is awesome, and I'm tempted to buy more leviathans, because three plastic and a resin aren't enough, not including the mini leviathan. Especially with GW releasing more rules for counts as knights .
I agree about the slight difference domestically - but the price difference is extremely dramatic for international shipping! I know this because I've shipped a lot of things overseas (the Dakka Dice orders in particular) on a pretty regular basis... I used exclusively Priority Mail before the price increase, and switched over to First Class since. I haven't had anything get lost since doing so, and even Priority Mail does not include tracking on international packages.
Part of the reason I'm asking, is the price increase was so severe, that I felt they might be trying to drive people to switch over to First Class. It seems to be the only reasonable option for shipping small packages... I was low on time sending out my ModCube samples, and used two Priority Mail small flat rate boxes to ship the UK samples - $25 apiece, so $50 just for sending two tiny packages! It seems non-viable to do this for small orders, so I'm curious if other folks have had good results with shipping internationally using First Class (as I have so far, but I'd love to compare!).
RiTides wrote: Have you considered using First Class shipping instead of Priority NoseGoblin? I haven't shipped nearly so much as you of course, but I have had good luck using First Class for international shipments since the insane price hike in postal rates last year. Would love to hear your thoughts on it!
No tracking is a deal killer for a commercial company. A real company can't really afford the risk of no tracking because of lost packages and those scammer "missing" packages that actually did arrive...
RiTides wrote: I agree about the slight difference domestically - but the price difference is extremely dramatic for international shipping! I know this because I've shipped a lot of things overseas (the Dakka Dice orders in particular) on a pretty regular basis... I used exclusively Priority Mail before the price increase, and switched over to First Class since. I haven't had anything get lost since doing so, and even Priority Mail does not include tracking on international packages.
Part of the reason I'm asking, is the price increase was so severe, that I felt they might be trying to drive people to switch over to First Class. It seems to be the only reasonable option for shipping small packages... I was low on time sending out my ModCube samples, and used two Priority Mail small flat rate boxes to ship the UK samples - $25 apiece, so $50 just for sending two tiny packages! It seems non-viable to do this for small orders, so I'm curious if other folks have had good results with shipping internationally using First Class (as I have so far, but I'd love to compare!).
As a customer in the UK I pretty much can't order from the US any more unless I'm offered the First Class option, anything else is just too expensive,
remember those of us in Europe have to pay tax (VAT at 20% for the UK) on the postal costs too which just makes the Priority costs even worse
on the other hand since it's not tracked or insured whether a company is willing to offer it may depend on how frequently stuff 'does not arrive' (both genuinely and from scammers trying to pull a fast one), so I can see why some would rather give up on their foreign customers
For me, it does not make sense to ship 1st class for a few reasons.
1) I have distributors that carry my product in most countries.
2) I will not send anything that cannot be tracked.
3) (Most important) My contract warehouse/shipper has a hard time shipping 1st class mail. They end up shipping them priority and when I have a sale like this I lose money on every purchase. I think their system cannot tell the difference between 1st class and priority, it just sees USPS. As I like the job they are doing and they provide a very reasonable rate when compared to other service providers, it does not make sense for me to look ells where as these costs would ultimately be passed to my customers.
Thanks for the replies on that! Does the current international shipping method have tracking / signed for or the like?
I'm only persisting on this question because I was under the impression that Priority Mail only added tracking to the border, but not once it left the US. It may give you the option to add more services on top of it, so I'm just curious... but I didn't think any of the basic shipping methods using USPS offered tracking on international packages.
(Perhaps it includes confirmation of delivery, even though it is not actually tracked? I did not think it did even that, but that would be a good reason)
NoseGoblin wrote: For me, it does not make sense to ship 1st class for a few reasons.
1) I have distributors that carry my product in most countries.
2) I will not send anything that cannot be tracked.
3) (Most important) My contract warehouse/shipper has a hard time shipping 1st class mail. They end up shipping them priority and when I have a sale like this I lose money on every purchase. I think their system cannot tell the difference between 1st class and priority, it just sees USPS. As I like the job they are doing and they provide a very reasonable rate when compared to other service providers, it does not make sense for me to look ells where as these costs would ultimately be passed to my customers.
Are you able to send to international customers via a WGF outlet/factory/warehouse in China? That would save you a fortune.
The 54mm model looks great.
Any word on those last missing armour pieces from the KS? It'd be nice to close the book on this one, and it's been months now.
So this is Panzerjager unit. but if 'Panzerjager' means 'tank hunter' then ... do they use automatic antitank rifle (with DU ammo)? or is it a different form of 'antitank laser weapon'?
So this is Panzerjager unit. but if 'Panzerjager' means 'tank hunter' then ... do they use automatic antitank rifle (with DU ammo)? or is it a different form of 'antitank laser weapon'?
Earlier on, the images show the last 2 long weapons in the right are Plasma based Tank penetrator weapons
1. And so differs from a generic plasmagun in 40k in that it doesn't 'splash' (isn't it?) or is this plasma antitank weapon overheats so easy?
2. And about regular troops... stormtroopers,
2.1 tell me about their standard rifles. is it a generic modern day assault rifle or a direct enegy weapon ?
2.2 do they wear flak armor or carapace one?
Lone Cat wrote: 1. And so differs from a generic plasmagun in 40k in that it doesn't 'splash' (isn't it?) or is this plasma antitank weapon overheats so easy?
2. And about regular troops... stormtroopers,
2.1 tell me about their standard rifles. is it a generic modern day assault rifle or a direct energy weapon ?
2.2 do they wear flak armor or carapace one?
Based on what has been said
1) focused burn through armor plasma bolts
2) The Panzerjaeger and stormtroopers can mix/match arms and rifles and weapons and masked heads .
3) Standard rifles are based on Marks' fluff comprable to Auto rifles shooting solid projectiles, but as GW has auto and las rifles at same strength etc, no biggy there. Looks like they now have carbines with grenade launchers too, and a S.A.W.
4) Carapace based on the looks of the armor/gear.
I have a platoon of stormtroopers made, and will add in PanzerJaegers, maybe get another box of stormies so I can make 2 coed squads.
Any news on that rule set Nosegoblin? I ended up with like 50 stormtroopers, 20 valkir, 12 Black Widows (panzerjaegers now) and an APC and I'd love a game where I can use them as the only other option at the moment seems to be some odd looking Karist proxies for dakkas MEdge or yet even more IG/Space Marines if I got desperate enough to pick up 40k again.
I know that Dreamforge does provided its own gameverse to these miniatures but I don't see its storylines in Dreamforge website. This dakka thread appears to provide more in-dept info on what's going on but still no backstory mew!. Not that who are the Eisenkern nor how do this faction comes to exists. except that it is modelled after WW2 Wehrmacht military might (indeed much of their military hardware was advanded, and everybody else around them just either looted, or copied everything they had... for example... 'Assault Rifles' and 'hexagonal hull armored cars'.... The US Army did experiment on a new APC design initially based on SdKfz 251, and so did the postwar Soviet BTRs (i guesS) modelled after the 222 (i think) ). with modern interpretations inspired by James Cameron's Aliens movie. but i'm still looking forward to see whether did the Eisenkern has a Main Battle Tank... if in 40k, the Space Marines use LandRaider, and the IG chose Leman Russ (which actually a mixture of British WW1 Landships and French Char B1(And possibly the heavier French C2) )
Also did the Shadokesh equivalent to Eldar in 40k?
DFG's website crashed a while ago and I don't think Mark has circled back to replace everything. He might have also decided to completely re-write the fluff, in which case nothing that follows is accurate.
Fictionally, the divergence begins in the late 1800s when gates are discovered in various places on Earth that allow travel across space. Colonies are founded, exploration begins, World War 1 begins (though in this case there wouldn't be a Second). The Germans use technology they've acquired on other worlds to hold everyone off for a time, but then a mysterious virus begins decimating their population. As millions of people die, others flee to their off-world colonies, which are strangely not affected, through the gates. The other nations of the world simply quarantine the area and let the plague burn itself out while prohibiting gate travel as the suspected root cause. These refugees and off-world colonists of Imperial Germany are the basis of the Eisenkern. The vehicles are based on Wehrmacht designs because if you stick with WW1 tech, you're making an armored barn and done.
In the meantime, a cult has sprung up around the gate network known as The Brotherhood. When they demonstrate an immunity to the plague and the ability to safely guide others through the network, this cult becomes a de facto government for a time and tells the nations when they can travel where. Eventually the US gets tired of this (because we're jerks) and unilaterally ejects The Brotherhood and resumes "normal" operations. The other powers of the world soon follow suit. Eventually over-use the gates results in a tragedy of the commons, and Earth ends up being effectively destroyed by the collapse of the gate network on the planet. A similar exodus is repeated by those who can make it, and that gives us the other factions like the Commonwealth, the Protectorate and such. The Brotherhood resumed it's place as a key power by controlling travel through the network, I'm assuming with a bit of "Told you so" about the affair.
The Shadokesh are more akin to Tyranids than Eldar; they're more of a hive-mind-with-individuals (i.e. - they commune with the hive-mind periodically, but when they're not doing that they're independent) and completely callous as regards things in their way. The Eisenkern, furthest-flung of humanity, are basically the bulwark against the Shadokesh consuming the rest of the powers. Leviathans were purportedly based on things employed by the Shadokesh, so I'd expect to see something similar from them whenever Mark gets around to fleshing out that faction.
Again, all of that may be invalidated by v2 of the fluff if Mark chose to redo it. That's what the old PDFs mostly said.
Krinsath wrote: DFG's website crashed a while ago and I don't think Mark has circled back to replace everything. He might have also decided to completely re-write the fluff, in which case nothing that follows is accurate.
Fictionally, the divergence begins in the late 1800s when gates are discovered in various places on Earth that allow travel across space. Colonies are founded, exploration begins, World War 1 begins (though in this case there wouldn't be a Second). The Germans use technology they've acquired on other worlds to hold everyone off for a time, but then a mysterious virus begins decimating their population. As millions of people die, others flee to their off-world colonies, which are strangely not affected, through the gates. The other nations of the world simply quarantine the area and let the plague burn itself out while prohibiting gate travel as the suspected root cause. These refugees and off-world colonists of Imperial Germany are the basis of the Eisenkern. The vehicles are based on Wehrmacht designs because if you stick with WW1 tech, you're making an armored barn and done.
In the meantime, a cult has sprung up around the gate network known as The Brotherhood. When they demonstrate an immunity to the plague and the ability to safely guide others through the network, this cult becomes a de facto government for a time and tells the nations when they can travel where. Eventually the US gets tired of this (because we're jerks) and unilaterally ejects The Brotherhood and resumes "normal" operations. The other powers of the world soon follow suit. Eventually over-use the gates results in a tragedy of the commons, and Earth ends up being effectively destroyed by the collapse of the gate network on the planet. A similar exodus is repeated by those who can make it, and that gives us the other factions like the Commonwealth, the Protectorate and such. The Brotherhood resumed it's place as a key power by controlling travel through the network, I'm assuming with a bit of "Told you so" about the affair.
The Shadokesh are more akin to Tyranids than Eldar; they're more of a hive-mind-with-individuals (i.e. - they commune with the hive-mind periodically, but when they're not doing that they're independent) and completely callous as regards things in their way. The Eisenkern, furthest-flung of humanity, are basically the bulwark against the Shadokesh consuming the rest of the powers. Leviathans were purportedly based on things employed by the Shadokesh, so I'd expect to see something similar from them whenever Mark gets around to fleshing out that faction.
Again, all of that may be invalidated by v2 of the fluff if Mark chose to redo it. That's what the old PDFs mostly said.
Hmm, I liken the Shadokesh to Dark Eldar, and with their tech the Tau, they have another race that is Nid/ork hybrid in the way they are described, or as close to a 40k parallel as it comes. Maybe Shadokesh also show signs of more Dark Necrons as a hybrid of DE and Crons. The background when I read it was very interesting indeed.
shade1313 wrote: Or, he could use his own ideas and not try to shoehorn in analogues to other games.
Oh no, it was just that people were discussing the analogies as so many have had 40k in their face most of their miniature games lives. I myself was showing that these miniature planned are, based on their concepts, close to a mish-mash of known forces just for a comparing of their differences. The Shadowkesh are definitely unique as they actually resemble something batlike, but with four eyes, and their Psychopathic tendencies are interesting, and I can't wait to see how their weapons and tech work in comparison. The closest they come to 40k is that they act like DE, but use tech shaped like something crons would use or so, hence my calling them Dark-Crons.
Another race, the Grendel? they use biotech weapons and such, so there is the closest approximation to Nids, but the also look closer to and act in some ways Orky, so hence the Tyran-Ork comparison.
Fluff for the Eisenkern vs Shadowkesh is more like Germany 1943-45 doing what they could to slow their losses to the allies on all fronts, and they will in the long run lose, but they will make the enemy pay for every inch, every world as they retreat or hold.
the other human factions are also a bit fragmented, and odd as they once shared Earth, but have become space faring societies not for the sake of empire building, but because of the destruction they fled as Earth was destroyed. It was all interesting reading on his old site.
Iron Core universe is definitely NOT a 40k derivative.
More about Protecterates and the Commonwealths. were the Protectorate the former USA or France or Russia? and were Commonwealths the former British Empire?
Protectorate is the former Communist-bloc so Russia, China and southeast Asia. The Commonwealth is the EU minus Germany, basically. I'd imagine Eastern Europe fell in with the Protectorate as Germany was something of a deadzone dividing the continent. The Elysium Republic is the US and the rest of the Americas. You also have minor human powers in the Independent States and then you have Households within the factions (likely as a plot device to allow wildly divergent color schemes in a given faction.
Then for alien factions you have the Kraggen, Shadokesh and Dhar-Hazier.
I'll see if I can get these PDFs off my iPad sometime with the factions and history. Again, they might be out-of-date with changes planned out in the intervening years, but they still give an idea of where Mark is likely headed.
I must admit that I really liked the fluff for the Kraggen.
Since they are not yet mentioned:
They are rather larger with a slightly reptilian look about them. Prominent nose crest/blade. They were the one alien race that readily accepted humans and made alliances and shared technology.
Their empire was relatively small, and they are usually non-aggressive (almost monk-like). However, don't antagonize them as they are prone to short bursts of physical violence. (just imagine the large nerdy kid in school that doesn't react to a bully until he takes too much crap, then body slams said bully.
Oh yeah the Kraggen, who also seem to have a affinity for warping or using warp as a weapon. (Not at all 40k just the same effects as the gates, but they can control it from their mind/body.
Here's a little something I've been working on. It's still a work in progress, but basically I was trying to bulk-out a 15mm Leviathan to use as an Imperial Knight for 40k. I just tossed in a Lord of Skulls torso onto the Leviathan kit and it looks pretty good, especially the way the head sits on the neck.
He's not posing heroically while one of his battle brothers die, so he can harvest the gene seed - he is setting off across the battlefield at a dead run to get to there before it is too late.
The MULE is great in that role. (Anyone else reminded of the old computer game M.U.L.E.?)
Mark, since this KS is pretty much done for (except for a few bits and bobs mile 15mm cap coolers and keilerkopf parts), do you think it would serve Dreamforge better to have a fresh thread for news?
Flying STUGs are cool and all, but I'd rather have one of those smallervmechs. I think it was called a Puma, right? Really though, it's time for some opposition. Bring on the Space Soviets!
There won't be a new campaign, at least not according to our latest round of Mark-sightings. I think he wants to go for a steadier release schedule as funds and design time permits.
I wanted to say that the pair of 1/100 Leviathan Crusaders I picked up with the sale are kicking rad. Very poseable, good amount of detailing (I can put the armor plates on or leave them off and I'm thinking of doing that with some pieces as I'm using these as Dreadknights) and the weapons look badass. I'm really happy with these and already looking at buying the other weapon systems. I'm glad I saw this thread!
jackogk wrote: I wanted to say that the pair of 1/100 Leviathan Crusaders I picked up with the sale are kicking rad. Very poseable, good amount of detailing (I can put the armor plates on or leave them off and I'm thinking of doing that with some pieces as I'm using these as Dreadknights) and the weapons look badass. I'm really happy with these and already looking at buying the other weapon systems. I'm glad I saw this thread!
Nice! And sweet gun conversion, shasolenzabi!
Mark, if you want to start a new thread feel free to do so and we'll either lock this one and link to it, or move this to Misc Games if there's a reason to continue both threads.
Mark, if you want to start a new thread feel free to do so and we'll either lock this one and link to it, or move this to Misc Games if there's a reason to continue both threads.
Thanks RiTides. Took some nudging and other tedious moves to line it up
@david, the Eisenkern releases were all models completed during the kickstarter and are just now reaching retail distribution. The shadokesh are still in the design phase so it will be a while before they start the production and reach retail.
Got a shipping notice today from WGF and was like whats this all about I havent ordered anything....emailed them and got this reply
"Its a 15mm Capacitor Cooler sprue that should have been included with your 15mm Leviathan Mortis. Everyone from the kickstarter who ordered a Mortis is being sent the sprue free of charge."
A friend of mine picked up the Leviathan Crusader during the sale.
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It would be so easy to do it up for steampunk....
Got me planning out a land war between Prussia and Great Britain, just a few years after the end of the Franco-Prussian war as a Spycraft 2.0 campaign.
Sadly, the 25mm Leviathans are just too big - so I might need to get some of the 15mm versions.
The Auld Grump - Mortis for the Prussian Kriegsmaschines, Crusaders for the British war Bullgines.
Mathieu Raymond wrote: I thought that a couple of times too, Jehan, it sometimes boils down to "I wasn't paying enough attention."
Yeah, the side armor panels for the tabbards fits better if you use the top part as a guide, it tapers down towards the front of the belt and them the back and front tabbards fit better I found. Plus the images on the box and instructions show it too.
If you zoom in, you can make out how the thing tapers towards the front, and is thicker looking to the back, as it heads to the ammo clip for his pistol
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So, after 2 1/2 years, why does this company still not have an opposing force or even a basic ruleset? Given the quality of the miniatures, it just seems like a lot of unfinished business.
They barely just fully finished the KS. Got my missing bits a coupe weeks ago as WGF only started sending them recently. It's possible that Mark has the OpFor in production but is keeping quiet until they're much, much closer to release, given the length of time it took them to get the original stuff out.
the_Armyman wrote: So, after 2 1/2 years, why does this company still not have an opposing force or even a basic ruleset? Given the quality of the miniatures, it just seems like a lot of unfinished business.
Because "this company" is one man. Mark is working on the Shadokesh, and had previewed a few pictures of them. However, he has said future release will be done more conservatively, rather than trying to do everything at once.
the_Armyman wrote: So, after 2 1/2 years, why does this company still not have an opposing force or even a basic ruleset? Given the quality of the miniatures, it just seems like a lot of unfinished business.
Because "this company" is one man. Mark is working on the Shadokesh, and had previewed a few pictures of them. However, he has said future release will be done more conservatively, rather than trying to do everything at once.
True, but it's not like he's slaving away in a workshop making the minis in small boutique runs. He outsourced to a large Chinese manufacturer. Does he have a day job and this is just a part-time gig? I'm not being critical of the person running things, more lamenting for a lot of lost time for a potentially awesome game.
I like quite a bit about the Eisenkern, but I'm just not interested in a line of minis without a game. I can't imagine I'm alone in that feeling.
A)There is a game forthcoming..they mention it on the blog
B)Lots of people seem fine collecting his figures for use in other games until a game for this stuff is available
C)Designing the models by himself while also managing the retail side of it (separate from the WGF retail), and dealing with whatever else he's doing.. I dunno.. the guy should probably hire some staff or something but right now we would be making assumptions to guess at what's going on.
The notion that he owes us more (rules or minis) kinda wreaks of entitlement.
MLaw wrote: A)There is a game forthcoming..they mention it on the blog
B)Lots of people seem fine collecting his figures for use in other games until a game for this stuff is available
C)Designing the models by himself while also managing the retail side of it (separate from the WGF retail), and dealing with whatever else he's doing.. I dunno.. the guy should probably hire some staff or something but right now we would be making assumptions to guess at what's going on.
The notion that he owes us more (rules or minis) kinda wreaks of entitlement.
I think you mean 'reeks' and I don't think anyone thinks he 'owes' us this - or anything else - it is just that everyone would just *like* more of his stuff!
MLaw wrote: A)There is a game forthcoming..they mention it on the blog
B)Lots of people seem fine collecting his figures for use in other games until a game for this stuff is available
C)Designing the models by himself while also managing the retail side of it (separate from the WGF retail), and dealing with whatever else he's doing.. I dunno.. the guy should probably hire some staff or something but right now we would be making assumptions to guess at what's going on.
The notion that he owes us more (rules or minis) kinda wreaks of entitlement.
I think you mean 'reeks' and I don't think anyone thinks he 'owes' us this - or anything else - it is just that everyone would just *like* more of his stuff!
Yeah, that's what I thought I meant but my spellcheck said I was wrong.. :/ Weird..
I haven't paid much attention since it all shipped, but has has the iron-core game development group started? It was part of the pledges that backers were supposed to be part of the design group and I never sawNy more about it after mark gave the rules design off to someone else.
Finally ordered my first Eisenkern troopers and can't wait to get them. Will be using them as a guard platoon as allies for my SM. Stoked about trying a camo paint job on them.
I got a box of Stormtroopers and the accessory set a while ago, but only recently got around to starting building them. I have no issues with the casts or the models, but I find the instruction sheet for the accessory set very lacking.
The single page for the infantry accessories only calls out a small amount of the included parts. I really want some instructions as to how the accessory arms work if I want to, for example, build a left-handed rifleman or model someone rearing back to throw a grenade.
the_Armyman wrote: So, after 2 1/2 years, why does this company still not have an opposing force or even a basic ruleset? Given the quality of the miniatures, it just seems like a lot of unfinished business.
This is literally a 1-man show, and Mark has to wear a lot of hats to keep the business running: designer, operations, accounting, etc. It's as if you had Jes Goodwin working on his lonesome, without the GW machine to support him.
Yeah, I've got one of the 28mm leviathan kits but I've not made the time to build it. Just FYI, if you order one and take it out of the box, be ready to build it because it is not going to fit back in the box.. it's like.. tetris mixed with voodoo..
I realized that I really don't have a lot of use for the 15mm Mortis Levis (Although I'll squeeze one into one of my chaos armies somehow), so I built one up with all the joints unglued (and had to leave off some of the pistons, for now) to use to figure out poses I want to try to achieve on the big 'uns.
Also, I was more than a little annoyed with myself when I went to go mask off the limbs and armor plates on that first Crusader I built after wave 1 arrived, and discovered that I hadn't left sufficient clearance between the unarmored left "thigh" and the pelvic armor for me to install the main armor plates there! $@!^&#@%&@$$%&#
So, I either have to break loose the foot AND the hip joint to try to slightly alter the pose, or make it a battle damaged Crusader with some of the armor shot away. I'm really not sure which to do.
You can always cut the Pistons and reach with plastic tubing. Unless the joint your talking about is the actual hip to leg where I think you'll have to customize the leg armor.
Theophony wrote: You can always cut the Pistons and reach with plastic tubing. Unless the joint your talking about is the actual hip to leg where I think you'll have to customize the leg armor.
The actual leg to hip join. This morning, I carefully popped the feet loose from the base (He was on there waaaaay more securely than I'd thought, which is good, nice to know they're secure on the base), and moved the leg just enough to get the thigh plates on. I'll just have to build up a little under the foot for regluing him down, as the angle of the foot to the base very slightly changed, but that's no big deal.
Does anyone have any idea of what the impact of the Wargames Factory/Warlord Games distribution deal will have on Dreamforge?
In a semi related note for my fellow Brit's and Europeans Northstarfigures the former UK distributor is having a mental clearance sale on the Dreamforge ranges. I've cracked and ordered more Valkir than I know what to do with!
Hi guys, I am in negotiations with Warlord now, and exploring other means of distribution. I will let you know where I stand and the direction I decided to take shortly.
My intent is to smoothly transition to whichever end distribution channel fit best for DreamForge and do not anticipate any lags in service to the retailers or wholesalers.
shasolenzabi wrote: I still need to man up and put the L.E.D. kit inside my assembled Leviathan.
Yeah, it's a pain to do it after it's assembled. I was in such a rush to get my mortis put together I now need to carve out areas for the LEDs and batteries :(
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, or various puppetswar ones.
thing over 
, would that line up with the reaver or new warlord???? 
