hi all

ive very proud to announce the lauch of my kickstarter

Laser cut Mdf terrian for wargames by T.J.H Models



Hope you like what you see so we can be funded

Those kits are just jaw-droppingly gorgeous. But the price is just too high for me, even though I think it's fair for the quality of the kit. Also the early bird special doesn't offer much savings. Best of luck to you though!

Awesome terrain, really impressed. I do think the price adds up quickly though.

hi all

off & running with our 1st pledge

Amazing terrian.

Hard to understand what comes in each pledge level....

What the heck is a "Set 11 Level 2"? Why does "Set 6 Level 1" early bird coast more?

 Lockark wrote:
Amazing terrian.

Hard to understand what comes in each pledge level....

What the heck is a "Set 11 Level 2"? Why does "Set 6 Level 1" early bird coast more?

I was just going to point this out. I am scratching my head trying to understand whats going on.

I do love the product however, I intend to back this one.

GBL wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
Amazing terrian.

Hard to understand what comes in each pledge level....

What the heck is a "Set 11 Level 2"? Why does "Set 6 Level 1" early bird coast more?

I was just going to point this out. I am scratching my head trying to understand whats going on.

I do love the product however, I intend to back this one.

I started figureing it out abit better.

The Walkways are broken down into mutiple "sets", with each set broken down into a "level" bundle. Their is no way to mix and match the bundles you would want. you other choose the single bundle/level you want, or nab a whole set and all of it's level/bundles.

Add ons are not a option.


This kickstarter would of worker alot better if you pledged for a number of bundles, and then got to choose witch bundles you wanted out of the number you pledged for. Not to mention modular terrian like this would of been the perfect thing to offer "add ons" for. Like maby a set of "FPS chest high boxs" you could scatter around or use as objectives.

As it stands, this kickstarter is abit to confusing for it's own good. lol For a modular product, you'd almost expect modular priceing.

Best of luck thow! Jaw dropping stuff you got! If I still had a necromunda group this would be very tempting.

hi

I started figureing it out abit better.

The Walkways are broken down into mutiple "sets", with each set broken down into a "level" bundle. Their is no way to mix and match the bundles you would want. you other choose the single bundle/level you want, or nab a whole set and all of it's level/bundles.

Add ons are not a option.


This kickstarter would of worker alot better if you pledged for a number of bundles, and then got to choose witch bundles you wanted out of the number you pledged for. Not to mention modular terrian like this would of been the perfect thing to offer "add ons" for. Like maby a set of "FPS chest high boxs" you could scatter around or use as objectives.

As it stands, this kickstarter is abit to confusing for it's own good. lol For a modular product, you'd almost expect modular priceing.

Best of luck thow! Jaw dropping stuff you got! If I still had a necromunda group this would be very tempting.

youve cracked it
there are 8 sets with 2 levels each
you can mix & match them as there are no restrictions on the pledges

yep im currently waiting on some crate & barricades coming back from the prototypes

would it be made simpler if i move the coloured map up the running order to help people out..?

This is absolutely fantastic terrain, not just for the modular ability, but I'm also a big fan of some of the little details- like the balcony ends. I feel like a good deal of thought has gone into this project. However I think the naming of the pieces and bundle options are slightly confusing. But once I work out what I want, I'll probably pledge. Set 1 looks enticing, but is a bit of a stretch at my budget and I came for towers anyway!

Edit pledged for set 8 lv2 ..

There's a lot of interest around the place for stuff like this.
Necromunda (get it while it's in stock... ) is also looking popular at my club, and this stuff just smacks of uses for that. With Deadzone coming out, that's just going to get better.

rockgod2304 wrote:
hi

I started figureing it out abit better.

The Walkways are broken down into mutiple "sets", with each set broken down into a "level" bundle. Their is no way to mix and match the bundles you would want. you other choose the single bundle/level you want, or nab a whole set and all of it's level/bundles.

Add ons are not a option.


This kickstarter would of worker alot better if you pledged for a number of bundles, and then got to choose witch bundles you wanted out of the number you pledged for. Not to mention modular terrian like this would of been the perfect thing to offer "add ons" for. Like maby a set of "FPS chest high boxs" you could scatter around or use as objectives.

As it stands, this kickstarter is abit to confusing for it's own good. lol For a modular product, you'd almost expect modular priceing.

Best of luck thow! Jaw dropping stuff you got! If I still had a necromunda group this would be very tempting.

youve cracked it
there are 8 sets with 2 levels each
you can mix & match them as there are no restrictions on the pledges

yep im currently waiting on some crate & barricades coming back from the prototypes

would it be made simpler if i move the coloured map up the running order to help people out..?

I think the biggest question I have, is if I pledge on a level 2, does that include the level 1 stuff? Is level 2 useable without the level 1? How do I get exactly the walkways set you played with in the video, they looked great.

The laser cut MDF terrain market is getting awfully crowded!

Looks like you can get a cutter for 3,000USD (after about 30 seconds of googling, I've no idea of that's a good model or crap.) That's cheap enough to take a risk on. Heck, if I hadn't bought a house that needs 30 years of repairs I'd be thinking seriously about getting one myself just for fun.

I was looking into them around 6 or 7 years ago and to get a decent model would cost around $15,000

Am going to get one for my Infinity game but really can't decide which to get.

Need Whole Board....NEEED!

This stuff looks neat, but how much space does it cover? It looks like it'd be around $240US for the cheapest 'Space Hulk' set, or roughly $280 for the map from the first mission. Very cool stuff, but probably more than I'd want to spend for a table. The walkways might be more attractive, but it's hard to know without dimensions.

It's also a bit hard to get the prices for things. It's doable, but a bit of a headache.

That is an exquisite product you have there.

hi all

on the Corridors & Room size

there all based on a 30mm sq system, so for a 3 sq straight corridor it is 90mm x 90mm x 60mm tall (with base it stands 64mm tall)

if you look in the video set 1 covers a good 2/5ths of my dinning table & thats only got 20 pieces to it .the full set will fit a 6x4 board especially mission of space hulk mkIII

Incredible work here! Those walkways are just stunning to look at, crammed with detail and all the different angles seem to blend really well together.

The corridors are also perhaps the absolute best I have seen to date. Finally someone listened to my cries and detailed the outside of the walls!

Pledges are extremely confusing however and would have benefited from getting rid of half of them especially when the kickstarter layout has jumbled everything in the way that it did.

I would suggest you rearrange the graphics and build some much clearer sets because at the moment it take quite a bit of effort to figure out what comes in each pledge, I should not have to use the find function on the laptop to figure out what say, set 64 level 18.6 was on the page.

Bughunt Corridors was another MDF ks that was very successful so I would take inspiration from them, specifically in the fewer pledge levels and the nice add on image that he posted.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1812955737/bug-hunt-corridors

Good luck in the campaign, I absolutely adore both kits as they just scream brilliant engineering and the video with you building the walkways is great, the click those magnets make is wonderful!

 Commander Cain wrote:
Incredible work here! Those walkways are just stunning to look at, crammed with detail and all the different angles seem to blend really well together.

The corridors are also perhaps the absolute best I have seen to date. Finally someone listened to my cries and detailed the outside of the walls!

Pledges are extremely confusing however and would have benefited from getting rid of half of them especially when the kickstarter layout has jumbled everything in the way that it did.

I would suggest you rearrange the graphics and build some much clearer sets because at the moment it take quite a bit of effort to figure out what comes in each pledge, I should not have to use the find function on the laptop to figure out what say, set 64 level 18.6 was on the page.

Bughunt Corridors was another MDF ks that was very successful so I would take inspiration from them, specifically in the fewer pledge levels and the nice add on image that he posted.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1812955737/bug-hunt-corridors

Good luck in the campaign, I absolutely adore both kits as they just scream brilliant engineering and the video with you building the walkways is great, the click those magnets make is wonderful!

I think this kickstarter could take inspiration from the pledge levels in bughunt corridors.

Where this kickstarter seems to offer a grand view of what could be constructed, and then split it up into pledges, bughunt said you can have x pieces for y dollars, and for each pledge level had an individual build showcasing what cool standalone setups can be built with that pledge level.

Makes things far less confusing.

Oh God...I'm in for the big set!

anyone wanna come over for a MDF punch out party in October?

Free Beer!!!

hi
i change alot of the the pledges to see if i could simplfy them up abit

have a fresh look to see if it easier

all feedback is great

cheers

Hi Rockgod, I think the terrain is amazing, probably the best laser cut out there at the moment. Your set system is really confusing and not user friendly - I am sure you know exactly how it all works but for a new person looking in it is not easy to see what you are getting and what you can do with it. On top of that I do think it is quite expensive to get a playable sized board. I do wish you all the luck as I might win the lottery this Saturday !
Nephilim

hi all

getting there 25% after just 2 days

thanks for the support

Wow, great detail. Out of my budget, but some really nice stuff there.

hi all

are the walkway pledges still confussing people?

thanks for your feedback

Maybe having a demostration layout for each pack might help.
Even a silhouette would do, but the support towers might confuse things.

It is looking more straightforward now, though.

rockgod2304 wrote:
hi all

are the walkway pledges still confussing people?

thanks for your feedback

Yeah I am still pretty confused. Either way I wont be able to back until later in the campaign.

I cant make up my mind on what I want, mostly because everything is presented as a piece of a larger whole. I don't want an accessory, I want a (smaller) complete set. If that makes sense.

So maybe a picture of every set assembled? that way I can see how much I need to have fun with?

I can only express gratitude that I do not presently have my tax refund in my hands at this moment in time. Pledging would eat up all of it. very gorgeous stuff.

Yeah. I really, REALLY like the look of this stuff, especially as I am about to start on a 6x4 urban board, but the presentation of this kickstarter leaves me scratching my head.
I have no idea how much I would get for my money, especially as there are multiple packs per pledge level.
A sample layout for each pledge level pack would have been nice.
Not sure about this, will have another look and head scratch, to see if I can work out what's what.

I'm going to have to say that yes, I am confused as to what pledge level build what!

It could certainly be a bit clearer - I can't help but think that would help your overall campaign too!

I have to agree with Alpharius. Not having a clear idea what my pledge buys me or how much I have to spend to get a decent setup is going to make me take a pass on this. Still, it looks interesting set up on the table. I wish you luck in getting this project completed.

I keep looking at this project and just wishing I had the money to pledge for it. I would love to blow 800 quid on a walkway set but it is just so daunting!

I would say that yes, the pledges are still mighty confusing (I can't actually tell what you changed).

Does kickstarter let you remove pledge levels that no one has backed? If so I would be rid of every single one of them and the sets that they accompany. Instead create three, maybe four levels ranging from small to huge for both the walkway and corridor sets. No need to describe every single piece that comes in the set, simply create images that do that job much better instead. I think I read on a blog some time ago that reviewed successful kickstarters and it claimed that having more than 10ish pledge levels negatively impacted the success of the project and you have 54...

You could also create a couple of graphics that show all the separate components along with a price and allow the backer to up their pledge by the desired amount in case they want a couple more end pieces/ towers or whatever. Much easier than pledging for multiple levels which is what you seem to want people to do (even though I thought that was impossible?)

Again, good luck, sorry if I sound so bossy, I just want to see you do well as these sets are some of the best I have ever seen!

That is some awesome terrain there, but I too am confused by the pricing. To get a 4x4 board with 3 levels,, if I understand correctly, I would need the complete board level 1 (500 pounds), level 2 (800 pounds) and level up (300 pounds), for a grand total of 1600 pounds? Is that right?

I am in the market to replace my old necromunda building sets (I own 3), but 1600 seems pretty expensive, even compared with other laser cut sets...

hi
if you catch the early bird offers

Complete Board Level 2
+
Complete Board Level Up

would £1100 + 12 free walkways

thats 99 walkways in total (& set 11 would be level 4)

Ok, just to be clear, the Complete Board Level 2 includes the complete board level 1, and a second floor for all the walkways and levels?? That sounds awesome.

Also, with that, I could, by NOT using all second floors, potentially cover a larger table, or do the second levels not work as first levels?

OMG, cant believe I am actually considering this!

I could also go for the Complete level 2 and just add third floors to a couple sets, for a little savings... Is that correct?

hi
yep CBL2 includes the CBL1 & a level up to have a set 2 levels high.

the level up comes without tower tops so you cant use as a level 1

I could also go for the Complete level 2 and just add third floors to a couple sets, for a little savings... Is that correct?

Correct

also i will put on tower tops as a pledge so if you want extra for you level up you can use them as a level 1

I concur with all the other comments that echo this. The Cost Benefit Analysis does not support an investment from me at this time. This is one of the more confusing listings/pledging's even after the clarifications to date. I wish I could offer a simpler solution to resolve it. Good luck.

CalgarsPimpHand wrote:Those kits are just jaw-droppingly gorgeous. But the price is just too high for me, even though I think it's fair for the quality of the kit. Also the early bird special doesn't offer much savings. Best of luck to you though!

Lockark wrote: Hard to understand what comes in each pledge level.... What the heck is a "Set 11 Level 2"? Why does "Set 6 Level 1" early bird coast more?

GBL wrote:

rockgod2304 wrote:
hi all are the walkway pledges still confussing people? thanks for your feedback

Alpharius wrote:I'm going to have to say that yes, I am confused as to what pledge level build what! It could certainly be a bit clearer - I can't help but think that would help your overall campaign too!