Hi,
about time that this small company from Lithuania gets its own thread. They make a nice series of PVC wargaming mats with good design, 4’x6’ (122 x 183 cm), £33.99 each plus postage.
Shipping to European Union countries is 2.5 GBP for the first item, 1.5 GBP for every additional item, shipping worldwide is 5 GBP for the first item, 3 GBP for every additional item.
The following one is currently on preorder for 10% less:
They come folded, but with a bit of effort and cross-rolling, you get the folds out.
A wargames terrain mat is made from high durability PVC, which is resistant to scratch and tear as well as various food stains. You can even make notes on it with water based pen and clean it with a piece of cloth later. PVC does not ‘remember’ its folding lines. Once out of the package, let it lay for a while and it becomes smooth again.
I remember stumbling on this company when I was looking for a gaming mat solution. Very cool stuff, especially the starfield for space battle games.
If they had an urban design I'd have jumped on it, alas...
I've been looking at these for a while, with the intention of replacing my RoB with them, since I've sold it I'm buying the new sci-fi one and will post feedback when I get it
The name is a bit misleading, since the matts are not "cut" in anyway, let alone deeply, with detail. Look nice in pictures though. I'd love the space one.
Real interesting, hope these dont have to shiny/slidey a texture otherwise it may make it a bit awkward to play on, but would be a good thing to get for playing different games on other than usual green
streamdragon wrote: Isn't PVC a form of plastic? I'm not sure taking an iron to it is a good idea if so.
That said, I will definitely give these a look tonight. Some mighty nice looking mats.
no, its not the best idea if you have an iron that only has 2 settings, off and OMGWTFHOT
I've gotten folds out of PVC plasticard with a "warm" iron, so I cant imagine this not working
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kestral wrote: The name is a bit misleading, since the matts are not "cut" in anyway, let alone deeply, with detail. Look nice in pictures though. I'd love the space one.
And privateer press does not operate some sort of swashbuckling compression device, maybe you should call your lawyer
Received my mat today, so great service and It looks great. Currently got it hanging up to knock the creases out and it arrived in a very sturdy tube to protect it on its travel. Great service and product for the price, very happy with my purchase.
angryboy2k wrote: Do they all have that logo on them in one of the corners? That's a deal breaker, right there if they do. Logos should be on the back.
I wouldn't call it a deal breaker; the logo is small enough to drop a bit of scenery on if it annoys you that much.
Has anyone heard anything about that pre-order? I noticed it's passed but I didn't get any notification (just a paypal receipt at the time_.
angryboy2k wrote: Do they all have that logo on them in one of the corners? That's a deal breaker, right there if they do. Logos should be on the back.
I wouldn't call it a deal breaker; the logo is small enough to drop a bit of scenery on if it annoys you that much.
Has anyone heard anything about that pre-order? I noticed it's passed but I didn't get any notification (just a paypal receipt at the time_.
I emailed them about the pre-order, got a reply pretty quickly (~3 hours) saying that they were shipped out Monday and people should start seeing them turn up early next week (5 working days to Europe).
angryboy2k wrote: Do they all have that logo on them in one of the corners? That's a deal breaker, right there if they do. Logos should be on the back.
I wouldn't call it a deal breaker; the logo is small enough to drop a bit of scenery on if it annoys you that much.
There's no reason for it to be on the top surface at all, regardless of whether or not I can cover it with scenery.
This is why we can't have nice things. People just accept things that shouldn't actually be acceptable.
"Cover it with a piece of scenery."
"Fill in the finecast bubbles with some liquid greenstuff."
"Gladly pay the same for a digital book as a real one because "convenience" somehow has as much value as the entire logistics chain that used to get dead-tree fibers out of the trees and into your hands."
angryboy2k wrote: Do they all have that logo on them in one of the corners? That's a deal breaker, right there if they do. Logos should be on the back.
I wouldn't call it a deal breaker; the logo is small enough to drop a bit of scenery on if it annoys you that much.
There's no reason for it to be on the top surface at all, regardless of whether or not I can cover it with scenery.
This is why we can't have nice things. People just accept things that shouldn't actually be acceptable.
"Cover it with a piece of scenery."
"Fill in the finecast bubbles with some liquid greenstuff."
"Gladly pay the same for a digital book as a real one because "convenience" somehow has as much value as the entire logistics chain that used to get dead-tree fibers out of the trees and into your hands."
It's not quite the same; there's no functional issue with a small logo being in the corner. It might break the immersion a bit though. I don't have to pay more, or do more work to get to an acceptable standard. But maybe it's just me with the table edges being covered in books, tokens and cans anyway.
Would I rather the logo was on the back? Sure. Is it a dealbreaker for me? Not at all. I didn't even realise it was there until pointed out.
RiTides wrote: Okay thanks, I just shot them an email to check if they are folded at all still... will update when I hear back.
The one I received was folded lengthways and then rolled, in a tube.
Was hanging it, like you said you tried, enough to get the crease out? Could you take a pic of that part of it?
Funny to see people say "just iron it!" and then that ironing would melt it . Whoops
If you want to iron it without melting it, then iron at a low to medium heat and place a towel or linen cloth over the mat and iron it that way. I have used this technique with other mats like Hotz mats and one from another manufacturer (whose name escapes me right now) and it works fine.
That doesn't seem to be a detriment to some folks, but it is to me... so if anyone has before and after pics of a mat that they were able to flatten out effectively, I'd really appreciate it.
Mine turned up today; folded rather than rolled, but at least that meant it fit through the letter box and I don't need to go and collect it!
The material is thinner than I was expecting, but it seems pretty durable and I'm suitably impressed. I'm still trying to decide what I want to do about storage and use; like cutting it into 2x2 sections as I'll never use the whole 4x6 at once, and maybe mounting it on some sort of board.
While I don't think its a "deal breaker" for me...I do have to admit, I don't like my terrain, which is designed to improve the aesthetics and immersion of my game - to have an advertisement on it.
Maybe a small watermark in the corner, so you could tell people "look for that thing in the corner, that's where I got it from". But not an obviously visible high contrast logo.
I have a space mat, but these are look much nicer....and I would consider to get one...but with that logo on there...it detracts just enough for me that I would get a competing product.
Again, if other people are fine with it...that is great, I am happy for them. Also, I don't think it "ruins it' or anything like that....but it is enough to detract from its overall value proposition for me.
Our recent (or not so recent) news are that all mats are shipped rolled in long tubes. Now they are ready to go right out of the box without additional bending, adjusting or other attention.
We also introduced mats in sizes suitable for X-Wing game. Have in mind that we can do any mat in custom size.
And our latest release which is currently on -10% preorder that you might find interesting:
We really appreciate your feedback, so let us know your thoughts!
Thanks for joining up to post here and I am very glad to hear that you are now shipping in long tubes. One of your mats will be an instant buy for me if I start up a space combat game.
I think a hair drier or hot air gun would be a better choice for working out any creases. I used a hair drier on my GW battle mat (nylon backer) before gluing it down to the board and it worked great
Hello, everyone. We have an exciting official announcement today:
Deep-Cut Studio and PWork Wargame joined forces to produce a new line of miniature games mats. PWork range of paper print-and-cut battleboards for miniature games will now be available as ready for action PVC mats, manufactured by Deep-Cut Studio. The mats come as 4’x6’ size (120x180cm) high quality prints on premium class PVC. We start with two exciting releases – city ruins and badlads, with more soon to come. The mats are available on PWork website as well as Deep-Cut Studio webshop.
And did I hear someone asking for a desert theme few posts above?
Anyone wants to vote for the next PWork range release?
Eggs: Yes there are logos in the corner of the mat. Two of them actually. A mat without logos - maybe as custom print? Drop us an email and we'll discuss the details.
overtyrant: Yes we do custom mats as well. Let's discuss details by email too.
angryboy2k wrote: Do they all have that logo on them in one of the corners? That's a deal breaker, right there if they do. Logos should be on the back.
I wouldn't call it a deal breaker; the logo is small enough to drop a bit of scenery on if it annoys you that much.
There's no reason for it to be on the top surface at all, regardless of whether or not I can cover it with scenery.
This is why we can't have nice things. People just accept things that shouldn't actually be acceptable.
"Cover it with a piece of scenery."
"Fill in the finecast bubbles with some liquid greenstuff."
"Gladly pay the same for a digital book as a real one because "convenience" somehow has as much value as the entire logistics chain that used to get dead-tree fibers out of the trees and into your hands."
Not to mention "cover it with scenery" doesn't really work as well with a space-themed mat.
Herzlos wrote: Would I rather the logo was on the back? Sure. Is it a dealbreaker for me? Not at all. I didn't even realise it was there until pointed out.
Would that be because the corners are deceptively cropped in most of the photos?
Personally I don't like it at all. Mats like this are always so damn expensive and I feel like for the money you're being asked to drop on them a big ugly logo right on the surface is too much, and trying to convince people to just "deal with it" is poor form. Just get rid of the stupid logo...but no, apparently that counts as a "custom print" and likely costs quite a bit extra.
It reminds me of buying a car; every dealership feels the need to put this big ugly sticker on the surface and use the vehicle you just paid good money (or sold your soul) for as additional, unnecessary advertising. If people want to know where I got it from I'll tell them, get that gak off or I'll go somewhere else. Hell, imagine if miniatures were the same deal: instead of having "Games Workshop" printed on the bottom of the base or on a base tab, you have GW logos and copyright/trademark symbols sculpted into the model itself. Knowing people here they would argue that it's okay because you can just cut it off or cover it up, lol...
RiTides wrote: Well, Frontline does it as well, just seems to be the name of the game!
Which is why I don't own much in the way of gaming mats.
I have exactly one, a Gale Force Nine mat I bought from my local store for X-Wing, and I haven't bought any more because of the GF9 logo on the edge. If it were half the MSRP I could maybe live with it, but not for $40.
I went ahead and bought a 3x3 mat for X-Wing (maybe now I'll actually learn the game). I'm not planning to spend a lot of time in the corner, so I don't think the logo will bother me much.
Our latest release is dedicated to all Deep Wars fans. The mat design represents a bottom of the ocean in all its glory and picture features high detail visuals approved by divers. Have a look at it at our FB gallery or website. We will ship the mat on 15th of March, until then all preorders receive a -10% discount with a code ‘ocean’ at the checkout window in our webshop. Grab it while it’s… Wet?
New wargames mat will hit the shelves after a few weeks. Until then all preorders receive -10%.
Official announcement:
We have another juicy pre-release – miniature games mat, wasteland theme. As usual it is hi-end quality print on hi-end quality material. They will be available on 22nd of March, until then all preorders receive -10% discount with a code ‘wasteland’ at the checkout window in our webshop. Let us remind you, that we can manufacture custom size mats as well. Just contact us for more details.
Good news everyone! We acquired a license to produce and distribute Dave Graffam Models maps. The popular Cobblestone Streets and Rake‘s Corner maps are now available as standard 4’ x 6’ (122cm x 183cm) size mats for your favorite miniature games. Just like all Dave’s work it features exquisite details and will look great in any fantasy or medieval battle scenes. Other sizes, optional hexes or grids may also be available as custom prints – just contact us for details.
We teamed up with Marc Gilbert from Dream Weaved Worlds to produce a new line of goods for your gaming tables. And as a result of our mutual cooperation we have a new release this week – a map tile set for miniature or RPG games. The set contains 12 different high quality tiles that depict a cavern system. That’s more than enough for countless possibilities to make a new environment for every encounter. But ‘countless’ is not a limit – we have more expansions coming soon. And we would really like to hear your thoughts and ideas to help us decide which set is going to be next.
I just wanted to post up my own quick review of Deep Cut Studios and their products.
In short I am very impressed by both.
After prevaricating over getting some mats for x-wing and other games I saw this thread and thought I would give DCS a go.
I ordered their City Ruins 6'x4' and custom 6'x4' Asteroid (no dinosaur bones) and 3'x3' Planets (with 3" border) themed mats. DCS were very helpful in our correspondence, fully responding to my (random? ) changes to their designs and producing just the mats I wanted. At £119 (inc. P&P) there was a premium for a customised mats but I still think they were good value for money.
All three arrived within about two weeks in their own separate card rolls and well packed out internally with extra plastic/bubble rap. So well packaged.
The PVC material is quite robust and should be tough enough for my general gaming needs. The mats are flat with little or no texture and the surface is clear with out being glossy.
Despite this however the Planet map had a slight scratch in it, not DCS's fault though as the package looked as if it had been subject to the villainous interference of UK customs! Nonetheless DCS kindly replaced this mat and a replacement was received a week later. So brilliant customer service chaps.
The Asteroid print is nice, no sign of dino bones and perfect for 40k or big x-wing games.
The City ruin map came with the DCS logo on one corner but its quite subtle and I only mention it for those that were concern about it. All the mats were really nice but I was particularly pleased by this one. I have a few pictures of a Necro game in progress, I think this mat really complements the games itself - note these were done for a club report so are not really focused on the mats but are a good indicator of the mats in context.
I thoroughly recommend Deep Cut Studios to anyone that's interested in a mat.
No problem mate. Credit where it's due, this is good product. As I say I'm really pleased with them. You may well get a few orders from my clubmates too.
Re delivery times, no criticism there either. All things considered (custom print, shipping from Lithuania etc) I was happy with the time taken. I'm old enough to remember pre-Internet times where anything less than 28days was fast!
It's quite easy - just fold it in the opposite direction, where the crease is. pretty much what you'd do with a sheet paper. Same applies for rolling - if the end of the mat lifts from the surface, just roll it in the opposite direction and it's smooth again.
These mats ship rolled now though, right, so it shouldn't be an issue for new orders? Copying the quote from earlier below:
DeepCutStudio wrote: Our recent (or not so recent) news are that all mats are shipped rolled in long tubes. Now they are ready to go right out of the box without additional bending, adjusting or other attention.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Today is a special day for us. We shook hands with Lord ZseZse Works and launched some really exciting RPG maps. Their newest Marble Sanctum map set as well as breath taking Harbour of Thieves map are available for preorder with a -10% discount as printed and ready to use mats. Ultimate beauty and detail level awaits those who choose to enhance their RPG or miniature games tables with these fine releases. The maps are drawn with great usability in mind and have 1 inch size tiles and other floor elements to track the movement of your minis across the dungeons. And as always we use premium class materials to manufacture these mats. Have a look at them at our gallery at http://www.deepcutstudio.com/ or visit http://www.lordzsezseworks.com/ for more stunning visuals.
With great excitement we would like to share a teaser of the new upcoming gaming mat – Unicorn Fields. It’s still WIP, your thoughts and suggestions are welcome. Rabid ponies? Fluffy rabbits? Carnivorous butterflies? Remember - the mats are made by gamers for gamers. Your input counts a lot.
Same with the logo feeling here. Maybe make them on an edge and make the mat slightly larger so people who don't want th logo showing can cut I off without having shortened their boards.
I got a mat recently from them and it came shipped like this...Thanks to that, I've got weird crumply creases on my mat that I'm finding hard to get out. Best part, somewhere, someone obviously received the package like this cause it's been stamped on the side that it was received in this condition.
Just ordered two of the 6x4 city maps Should look great for our apoc campaign in May.
Just a thought, are the mats with cobble streets good for 15mm? If so have you thought about doing a 4x2 invasion beach map for it? Sort of like a D-Day invasion?
Oh, we were looking for the best way to make a beach mat for some time now. We will come up with something suitable for Flames of War and/or Dystopian Wars sooner or later. And the Cobblestone Streets are better used with 28-32mm scale. Unless you like wide streets. In the meantime we have another sneak preview:
Okay, here is another teaser from the upcoming release that will see the light of day much sooner than Unicorn Fields mat. It’s scheduled for the start of next week. It comes in sets. And it bears the name of Heroic Maps on it. Stay tuned!
DeepCutStudio wrote: Today is a special day for us. We shook hands with Lord ZseZse Works and launched some really exciting RPG maps. Their newest Marble Sanctum map set as well as breath taking Harbour of Thieves map are available for preorder with a -10% discount as printed and ready to use mats. Ultimate beauty and detail level awaits those who choose to enhance their RPG or miniature games tables with these fine releases. The maps are drawn with great usability in mind and have 1 inch size tiles and other floor elements to track the movement of your minis across the dungeons. And as always we use premium class materials to manufacture these mats. Have a look at them at our gallery at http://www.deepcutstudio.com/ or visit http://www.lordzsezseworks.com/ for more stunning visuals.
That's just incredible! I don't currently play RPGs but might have to get one of these anyway... absolutely breath taking designs! Any chance of a "on the table" photo to see how the realism translates into the actual product?
Edit: Ah, they're a bit of odd sizes:
Set of 3 different maps
- Dimensions: 40"x38" (101,5 x 71 cm), 24"x35" (61 x 89 cm), 44"x35" (112 x 89 cm)
With the "Harbor of Thieves" mat being 40" x 40". It would've been nice for them to all have one dimension the same, and link together at a certain point, so that people could progress "through" the maps. The 24" x 35" is the on that stands out as a pretty odd size- what is the reason for that?
Can I ask if there are any plans for an ocean-surface mat? Would love to have something like this that could be used for Dystopian Wars or other nautically-themed games.
1.) Generic dystopian city board full of rubble with no or maybe just one diagonal road. Makes placing houses on it easy.
2.) Mystic Elven/Eldar temple with organic beige forms and maybe strange bluegreen lights at some places, maybe some areas slightly overgrown.
Sining wrote: I got a mat recently from them and it came shipped like this...Thanks to that, I've got weird crumply creases on my mat that I'm finding hard to get out. Best part, somewhere, someone obviously received the package like this cause it's been stamped on the side that it was received in this condition.
I've received damaged packaging a couple of times. When this happens there tends to be a "received in this condition by Australia Post" sticker on them, so I'd assume that the stamper in your case would likely be SingPost, and the stamp states that the damage happened in transit before it got to them.
Making friends is fun! We teamed up with another great studio to bring you even more dungeon dwelling pleasure. The first mutual release with Heroic Maps will be two map sets and one map tiles set. Cemetery map set will feature a day and night options, Edgmoor Manor will be available as normal and ruined building environment and Havenwater tile set will feature 10 different pieces to create a large city on the water where the only limit to its greatness is your imagination. They will hit our shelves on 14th of April, until then all preorders receive -10%. Check them out at our gallery at www.deepcutstudio.com or visit www.heroicmaps.com.
Hmmm. I am another potential customer who loves the look of your mats, but would be unwilling to buy them while they still have your logo in the corner.
I mean... they're designed to be visually, aesthetically appealing, right? They are pretty, not functional (you still need a flat table to put them on, after all). So why ruin the look? I wouldn't buy kitchen tiles with a logo in the corner either...
I am also uninterested in the idea of paying extra for a custom one without a logo.
All that said, if you ever do decide to do logo-free versions, I'll be buying at least one.
Would love to see some SF map tiles too -- like the caves but more kind of... interior spaceship corridors.
Ian Sturrock wrote: Hmmm. I am another potential customer who loves the look of your mats, but would be unwilling to buy them while they still have your logo in the corner.
I mean... they're designed to be visually, aesthetically appealing, right? They are pretty, not functional (you still need a flat table to put them on, after all). So why ruin the look? I wouldn't buy kitchen tiles with a logo in the corner either...
I am also uninterested in the idea of paying extra for a custom one without a logo.
All that said, if you ever do decide to do logo-free versions, I'll be buying at least one.
Would love to see some SF map tiles too -- like the caves but more kind of... interior spaceship corridors.
Amen, I bought a star map from another company (tiny logo in the corner), but my eyes keep
Getting drawn to it. I understand "branding" your goods, but maybe do it to the shipping/storage tube or the back of the mat. As is right now I will not buy another mat from anyone who puts a logo on the front or charges extra for not having it on there.
The logo is tiny and just in one corner. If this detail is what breaks your gaming atmosphere (and not the black bases, odd proportions and unfinished paint jobs of the miniatures plus coke cans, rulebooks, dice etc on the table), it is more a fetish than a good reason, deserving paying a bit extra IMHO.
A car's function (to me, at least) is to get me from one place to another... anyone who buys it for aesthetics has probably bought in to the brand sufficiently that the logo is a selling point.
The detail doesn't break my gaming atmosphere. It's easy enough to cover it up. But it irritates me. I shouldn't have to cover it up, because I bought a 6x4 gaming mat, not a 6x4-'a tiny logo just in one corner' gaming mat.
It's pointless anyway. If I buy it, it's for home use. If any of my friends play against me, see it, and love it, I will very very happily email them the Deep-Cut URL, and be effusive with praise for their customer service, cheap and fast delivery, quality of product, etc.
If I buy one... which is highly unlikely as long as it's marred with a logo.
It's not the same. For the most part a car is utilitarian, appearance still matters to a lot of people but a logo isn't going to ruin the overall look of the car (unless it's large and obnoxious and takes up a lot of visible space on the vehicle...kinda like the logos on a lot of gaming mats do!), nor is it going to interfere with the car's primary function which is to get you from one place to another. Not only that but some people actually take pride in those logos, they've bought into the brand and want everyone to know what brand they're driving (some people even voluntarily put giant logo stickers on their windows and stuff to further drive the point home that they're a Chevy or Ford fanboy/girl), and lots of fights have been started over that branding to the point where there's practically a constant war going on between fans of the different manufacturers...which is all really stupid, but still. And even if you pay a premium to get a car because looks and style matter more than just getting around, that branding becomes something of a status symbol: you want everyone to see that logo, you want them to know just how much your car is worth and basically just rub it in their faces. And then there's the issue of professional racing with sponsorships and all that...which is personally the only instance in which I would accept a gaming mat with a giant logo on it, if I was given one for free for the purposes of helping them advertise.
Appearance is a gaming mat's only real purpose, you buy one because you want a better-looking playing surface to help with immersion and don't have the time or inclination to make a textured table...and yes, unpainted models, Coke cans etc. do break immersion, which is why you see so much bitching about them. Lots of people also paint their bases in neutral colors or to match the terrain specifically so they don't distract as much, in fact I rarely ever see people leave the base rims black anymore. And finally, when it comes to proportions, clearly you haven't been reading a lot of the whine threads about GW for the past few years, either. As for logos, no one really cares where the hell you got it, it's not a point of pride or anything silly like that, and I don't think anyone is going to get so heavily invested into the branding of gaming mats to really make it one, either. The only reason anyone would ever inquire about the brand is so they know what website to go to in order to get one of their own, which they could very easily find out just by asking. Going back to cars again, when my stepmom bought her last car she specifically requested that the dealer leave their dealer sticker off, because she hated how it looked on the car and told them she would personally tell people where she bought the car if they wanted to know. It's something I'll be requesting myself when I get another car (and if they can't do that then I'll go somewhere else), especially since I was harassed for it one time at a red light, by a guy who was ticked off with said dealer and decided to take his frustrations out on me. "Yeah, I'd never buy from ____ ever again, that's why your car looks like gak!"...not a good way to start your work day, really, and something I could have avoided had it not been for said dealership's obsession with seeing its own name on almost literally every car in town.
Anyway, since appearance is the only reason you're buying a gaming mat, and being a good-looking playing surface is its only function, it stands to reason that a giant, distracting logo is going to be a deal-breaker for a lot of people, who don't feel like they should have to cover it up every time or "just deal with it" since these mats are generally expensive. And since there's no real reason for a logo to even be there, other than an inflated ego, since the customer that already bought the product isn't going to need the advertisement (unless you're assuming they're just stupid and forget) and can advertise for your company by word of mouth if people inquire about the mats they're playing on, I don't think it's an unreasonable stance to take in the slightest. Find a better way to advertise, because putting a big stamp on the product and effectively ruining it for its intended purpose is clearly going to cost you customers.
Sir Arun wrote: so is anyone who has purchased their mats willing to upload a few pics in this thread?
I'm thinking about getting this one:
It's really nice - Reposted from page 3.
Spoiler:
The City ruin map came with the DCS logo on one corner but its quite subtle and I only mention it for those that were concern about it. All the mats were really nice but I was particularly pleased by this one. I have a few pictures of a Necro game in progress, I think this mat really complements the games itself - note these were done for a club report so are not really focused on the mats but are a good indicator of the mats in context.
I thoroughly recommend Deep Cut Studios to anyone that's interested in a mat.
Hm, an interesting discussion. Most of our logos are 2x2 cm in size (it's 1x1 cm on Heroic Maps products). We had a little bit bigger ones, but decided to reduce them after receiving some feedback.
If one little logo in the corner upsets you to the point of three paragraphs, might I suggest you have problems you should consult your GP about.
I like the look of these, but I'm currently tapped out of funds and needs after the Tablewar game mats, which had a similar minority of people complaining nonsensically about a logo in the corner. I'll keep these in mind when I go looking for something different.
To the people complaining about having a small note in one corner.
Have you seen the product? Is there a full shot of the finished product where you can see the offending tag from a standing position?
I have not seen it in the posted pics so just wondering.
NTRabbit wrote:If one little logo in the corner upsets you to the point of three paragraphs, might I suggest you have problems you should consult your GP about.
I like the look of these, but I'm currently tapped out of funds and needs after the Tablewar game mats, which had a similar minority of people complaining nonsensically about a logo in the corner. I'll keep these in mind when I go looking for something different.
The mats are nice looking, but as mentioned the mats are to enhance the feel of the game, and the logo destroys it for me as well as others. Saying we need to see a GP( I guess that's Australian for doctor) is being ignorant.
sonofruss wrote:To the people complaining about having a small note in one corner.
Have you seen the product? Is there a full shot of the finished product where you can see the offending tag from a standing position?
I have not seen it in the posted pics so just wondering.
I have seen other mats with "small logos, and have one that has the logo and it draws attention to it when you try and immerse yourself in the game.
My biggest issue is the manufacturer is trying to get you to pay more money not to promote his stuff when all his pictures on his web pages have the mats at an angle to cut off the logo so you don't see them before ordering. The pictures of close ups showing off the products also don't show the logo in them so there's no way of telling how distracting his will be in comparison.
I've given my feedback on what I would like to see on the product, or not on the product, and so have others. To this point I don't think Deepcut studios is going to listen to the feedback from myself or other posters who have asked for the same thing, which is sad as I am interested in a few of their designs, but I am unwilling to spend the extra money to not promote them.
@kroothawk, I have purchased cars from dealerships before and requested that they remove their dealership logos before. It's amazing what they will do if you tell them it comes off or you'll go buy the same car for the same price at the next dealership. My wife's new car is proof of that.
I have been a salesperson for years, you try and give your customers what they want, and if you make them happy they will do a better job promoting you an your business than any tiny logo you ever could. For the most part my mat will be at my house, and anyone who sees it and likes it I will be more than happy to tell them where I got I from without having to resort to a logo. If someone sees. Mat in a game store, hen most likely the employee will be able to tell them its from XYZ and I sell them right here. The logo serves no purpose. Even tournaments which use mats will be able to tell you where the mats are from so what's the point.
A tip for you - roll the mat in the opposite direction when storing it in a tube (picture facing outside). This will give you a perfectly flat surface on the table when you take it out.
Also we would like to share what’s coming out next week from Lord Zsezse Works range. Meanwhile have a look at other already released great maps at our website www.deepcutstudio.com
This week we would like to announce two new maps from Lord Zsezse Works for RPG and miniature games. Ekzis’ Demonic Chessboard and Prison in the Deep maps are available for preorder. The Chessboard is available in fiery or water (or both in one map) themes and will look great not only for dungeon crawl, but for any chess game as well. And Prison in the Deep is the largest single RPG map we released so far. Be sure to put this feature in the good use! We will ship the mats on 21st of April, until then all preorders receive a -10% discount.
Sidstyler wrote: Appearance is a gaming mat's only real purpose, you buy one because you want a better-looking playing surface to help with immersion and don't have the time or inclination to make a textured table...
But that's just it... It's really hard to reconcile the idea that someone could be so fussy about having a visually immersive gaming surface that a small but visible logo would completely ruin it for them... but be using a 2D mat in the first place instead of 'proper' 3D terrain.
It smacks of the weirdest sort of double standard. It's like arguing that using anything less than the finest grade sugar in your coffee completely ruins your beverage experience... while buying the cheapest coffee you can find.
For a printed mat, these are outstanding. And as a player who has spent quite a lot of time looking at Star Wars miniatures maps (which are covered in grid squares, coloured terrain lines, location names, logos and copyright information) without finding it particularly disruptive to my immersion in the game, I would have absolutely no issue with the logo in the corner. Given the placement of it, once the mat is on the table you're not even going to notice it.
I already have 3d stuff sorted from SW boards, still want 2d mats for portability. First company that makes them with no logo gets my money. To me a logo on something like this just says that the company considers marketing to be more important than the quality of the product, which is never an encouraging sign when you're looking to spend a significant amount of money on something.
I can understand why some folks would think it's not a big deal... what I can't understand is why some who don't mind it think it has to not be a big deal for everyone.
It only matters to me a little bit, but it Did help determine which Frontline gaming mat I went for- the Alpine, where their white/black logo blends in quite nicely.
Similarly, on some mats Deep-Cut's blends in well. But in one of the mats in the post above, there's a black border with the white logo standing out stark against it. That's quite noticeable and slightly detracts from the product (whereas you'd want a logo to add to it, if possible).
It's not a huge deal to me in the end, I just can't understand why anyone's preference has to be universal- obviously, it bothers some folks, and not others... and that's OK.
The best analogy I can come up with is mold lines on models. I don't really mind mold lines on models, but they drive some people crazy and it's all they can see if it's there. I have to think it's a similar effect here- some people's eyes are drawn to the logo and it detracts greatly, others are able to overlook it without difficulty. Neither is necessarily right... just different preferences on what is important to you.
Luckily, Deep-Cut (unlike Frontline, although I love my mat from them) offer their mats without a logo if you contact them . I imagine they charge a slightly higher price, and the hassle may put off folks from ordering, but if I were to get a mat that would probably be my preferred route to take. Particularly if it were a dark space-themed mat where the logo would stand out more (as again on my Frontline alpine mat it kind of blends in, but that's partly why I chose that scheme).
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plastictrees wrote: Conversely, I'm looking for a mat that is just a logo. I'm sick of needless texture interfering with quality typesetting.
I've seen a few folks say this, and heck, I'd like to see you order one . Would a logo smack dab in the center, but otherwise textured, suffice? I bet Deep-Cut could do a custom one where they put the logo in the middle of the graphic for folks who just want it that badly
I have yet to see anyone back up this claim, though. Order one with a logo in the center and use it on your gaming surface and I'll give you mad props
Sidstyler wrote: Appearance is a gaming mat's only real purpose, you buy one because you want a better-looking playing surface to help with immersion and don't have the time or inclination to make a textured table...
But that's just it... It's really hard to reconcile the idea that someone could be so fussy about having a visually immersive gaming surface that a small but visible logo would completely ruin it for them... but be using a 2D mat in the first place instead of 'proper' 3D terrain.
It smacks of the weirdest sort of double standard. It's like arguing that using anything less than the finest grade sugar in your coffee completely ruins your beverage experience... while buying the cheapest coffee you can find.
I could try to explain myself a little better, but last time I was told I need to see a doctor because I typed up three paragraphs, so I guess I'll just stay quiet and nod this time.
But yeah...I can see if you went all the way and did a really crazy 3D board with built-in elevations, modeled on details like sidewalks and manholes, or rivers and ravines, and tons of other cool stuff (though it's easy to go too far and make a board that's too impractical to actually game on), but the vast majority of people just cover a piece of plywood in sand and paint it brown/grey/whatever, which is also probably the cheapest possible option (though it takes a little more time), and then put all the "real" effort into doing the modular bits like ruins, hills, craters, etc. The way I see it, the actual playing surface is going to look kinda 2D anyway even if it really isn't, just because sand alone isn't that noticeable, and a lot of these gaming mats seem to have enough depth to them that I could probably have just as much fun playing on either one.
If you don't want to put in the effort to extensively model a 3D playing surface, or take out a small loan and buy Forge World's RoB tiles, a gaming mat isn't really a terrible option if you want a nice-looking surface to play on, and probably more practical in some cases. Like in my current situation I would probably need something portable, I can't have a table set up and permanently dedicated to 40k anymore.
But yeah, sometimes it's just not going to work. If you've based your entire army on a desert wasteland and painted camo to match, it's going to look silly on a snowy table with stark white background, isn't it? And with the various gaming elements like dice, templates, cards and books all over the table, you'll never be fully "immersed" when playing a tabletop game, but I don't think it's necessarily wrong to try. And if you still think "It breaks immersion!" is a terrible argument then how about this: I don't want a fething logo on my mat because I don't want a fething logo on my mat. Don't really care what anyone else thinks, that's what I want and that's what I'm going to get.
Sidstyler wrote: Appearance is a gaming mat's only real purpose, you buy one because you want a better-looking playing surface to help with immersion and don't have the time or inclination to make a textured table...
But that's just it... It's really hard to reconcile the idea that someone could be so fussy about having a visually immersive gaming surface that a small but visible logo would completely ruin it for them... but be using a 2D mat in the first place instead of 'proper' 3D terrain.
It smacks of the weirdest sort of double standard. It's like arguing that using anything less than the finest grade sugar in your coffee completely ruins your beverage experience... while buying the cheapest coffee you can find.
I could try to explain myself a little better, but last time I was told I need to see a doctor because I typed up three paragraphs, so I guess I'll just stay quiet and nod this time.
Having played on textured tables, I think I'd prefer mats combined with 3-D terrain. On all the textured tables they have these slopes, inclines, and divets, which all look super cool, but lose all their charm when you try to play on them. My guardsmen flip over backwards or just slide down the hill side. Those tables are nice to look at but kind of a pain to play on. I always prefer just a plain green felt with terrain, but even then the felt catches the dice and the models, I'd think a 2-D mat would be nice.
That's exactly right- there are reasons to choose a 2D mat for practical purposes, but that doesn't mean you don't want it to look as good as possible.
I also ordered a Zuzzy mat, which is sort of a compromise- a mat with 3D texture. I'm going to do a big comparison post once all my various gaming surfaces come in
Although we might have gotten a bit far afield here! Deep Cut's mats are right at the top of my list if I need another gaming surface, the only thing keeping me from them is that I don't currently play a space combat game (my favorite of their mats) and BFG seems finally dead in GW's eyes, and Firestorm Armada doesn't have a faction that grabs me yet.
RiTides wrote: That's exactly right- there are reasons to choose a 2D mat for practical purposes, but that doesn't mean you don't want it to look as good as possible.
I also ordered a Zuzzy mat, which is sort of a compromise- a mat with 3D texture. I'm going to do a big comparison post once all my various gaming surfaces come in
Although we might have gotten a bit far afield here! Deep Cut's mats are right at the top of my list if I need another gaming surface, the only thing keeping me from them is that I don't currently play a space combat game (my favorite of their mats) and BFG seems finally dead in GW's eyes, and Firestorm Armada doesn't have a faction that grabs me yet.
X-wing , inexpensive compared to GW, the models are premade/painted, so your good to go from the start. You don't have to be a fan of the series or know anything about the history to play. Quick with solid rules, and you can buy your space mat .
I was contacted by deep-cut by pm, they were willing to meet me half way, but once again I'd have to spend more to do it. If I only wanted one mat with no logo on it then you pay extra. If you buy three or more mats then they told me they'd do it for free. I can see from a business perspective that they don't want to "eat" the cost, but they have officially lost me as a potential customer. I'm not asking for freebies, not how I roll, just would have thought they would have read the post and taken to heart people don't want to pay more to advertise for a company.
As for the 2d/3d arguement . When I win the lottery I might buy a jumbo jet and get a group together to play x-wing during freefall so I can have 3d, but it better be quick turns or it'll be a pain to re set up the "board" before gravity kicks back in
scarletsquig wrote: I already have 3d stuff sorted from SW boards, still want 2d mats for portability. First company that makes them with no logo gets my money.
Counter question:
Are all your and your opponent's armies painted and appropriately based? Are there no dice, rulers, books and beverage cans on the mat?
If no, it is not the look or the "disturbed atmosphere" that keeps you from buying, but just an arbitrary not-game related fun-condition only applied to gaming mats and not applied to cars, food, jeans, TV-sets, mobile phones, watches, computers, gaming consoles, sport clothes, ...
I don't mind a logo on a TV bevel since it isn't in the way (that said, the monitor I'm looking at now has the samsung logo painted over in black because I found it distracting), but to me, a logo on a gaming mat isn't really the same as that, it's more like an area of dead pixels in the corner of a screen of a new TV in the shape of the manufacturer logo.
When the entire point of purchasing the product and spending the money in the first place is to make the gaming table look a little nicer (all the other stuff you mention only means that it's all the more important not to add other crap like mat logos into the mix :p).. having something that looks not nice (the logo) on there for absolutely zero logical reason gets in the way of the entire point of buying the thing in the first place.
Not all clothing has branding, there's a reason why a lot of smarter (and often more expensive) brands have no visible logo, they're companies that produce a quality product and don't need to rely on walking branding to shift their gak on to customers. I tend to view clothing with large logos as cheap muck not worth buying... same applies to trainers, if you want a good quality walking pair, you don't go for the brand names.
Just good old consumer choice, some people don't mind advertising/branding, others do. Nothing wrong with either opinion.
Does anyone know if there are textured ones available? I have made my own 6x4 board but for a change of scenery this would be awesome if they did textured ones
Sidstyler wrote: ...And if you still think "It breaks immersion!" is a terrible argument then how about this: I don't want a fething logo on my mat because I don't want a fething logo on my mat. Don't really care what anyone else thinks, that's what I want and that's what I'm going to get.
And that's absolutely fine, and your choice. People are entitled to like different things. I was just questioning what, to me, was some rather odd reasoning for the stated preference.
It's an interesting discussion. How about we make a deal: those who wish their mats without logos - write us an email and let us know you saw this offer on DakkaDakka. We will manufacture mats without logos for the usual RRP price for you. Offer lasts till end of April.
DeepCutStudio wrote: It's an interesting discussion. How about we make a deal: those who wish their mats without logos - write us an email and let us know you saw this offer on DakkaDakka. We will manufacture mats without logos for the usual RRP price for you. Offer lasts till end of April.
Wow!
That's a pretty awesome offer - thanks for making it!
I suspect you'll be getting a sale or two from Sid now!
DeepCutStudio wrote: It's an interesting discussion. How about we make a deal: those who wish their mats without logos - write us an email and let us know you saw this offer on DakkaDakka. We will manufacture mats without logos for the usual RRP price for you. Offer lasts till end of April.
The only question is, which mat would be best for Firestorm Armada? I'm choosing between these three:
I think the nebula looks the most impressive, but I'm wondering if it might get a bit old for gaming on all the time. It also doesn't seem quite as sharp as the asteroid, although maybe that's just the picture. And the asteroid I could possibly use for normal wargaming, too.
Thoughts? Anyone have pics of any of these three "in the wild"?
the first one looks best as its more generic, am considering getting it for bfg, with nothing but stars in the back ground scenery like gas/dust clouds etc should stand out more?
are there plans for larger mats? would want 8x6 but i could settle for 8x4, mind you 2 4x4 might work
Well, I agree that it's more generic, but I'm leaning towards one of the other two, since I feel like I could get a starfield map anywhere... thanks for the thoughts though, even if you didn't say what I wanted you to
They are sending them rolled up now, as far as I know?
Also, I emailed you via the website about a nebula mat with no logo, DeepCut
Anyone who was saying they'd instantly order if there was no logo? Now is the time, guys! Vote with your wallet and support a company willing to listen to customer feedback so quickly
DeepCutStudio wrote: It's an interesting discussion. How about we make a deal: those who wish their mats without logos - write us an email and let us know you saw this offer on DakkaDakka. We will manufacture mats without logos for the usual RRP price for you. Offer lasts till end of April.
Everyone else will get two logos until end of April of course. Fair is fair!
Only those who want them... I still want to see someone order one with a logo in the exact center!
Looking forward to getting mine logo-free, thanks again to DeepCut for listening to the feedback and getting at least a few extra orders this month as a result.
I haven't been participating in the discussion, but I'm one of those who would strongly prefer to get mats without a logo. Especially when it comes to about AU$100 for a mat. While I feel no need to justify my preference, I'll go with "I strongly prefer them without visible logos".
So it's a great offer by Deep-Cut, though my funds for the rest of this month are tied up/committed, so I won't be able to afford one. Hopefully they can keep the logo-free mats going as an option for those of us who care going forward, and I'll likely end up getting one or two in the next month or two.
I'll be ordering a logo free one on payday. Well done deep cut studios. Despite all the people that are getting foamy at the mouth because people on the internet have a different preference to them, I hope you make a crapton of sales. Listening to consumer feedback should be rewarded.
That's exactly my take, Eggs... and I voted with my wallet by placing an order . Hope others who preferred the mats this way will, too, and they'll see a little spike in sales for April and know exactly what to attribute it to!
Well, that was fast. I sent them an e-mail literally minutes ago and they already responded. Just sent payment for a logo-less wasteland mat, hopefully with no issues because now I have to go off to work.
For the record, I was just posting my opinion, and wasn't really trying to influence Deep-Cut or any other company, but hopefully it works out in their favor because I was debating getting another gaming mat anyway, and this offer pushed me over the edge. I probably wouldn't have bought one otherwise.
RiTides wrote: Anyone who was saying they'd instantly order if there was no logo?
I never said such a thing. You and Alpharius can have all the fun at my expense that you want, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth.
Also, needless to say I know who I'm going to blame now if this gaming mat isn't absolutely fething amazing.
Sidstyler wrote: Well, that was fast. I sent them an e-mail literally minutes ago and they already responded. Just sent payment for a logo-less wasteland mat, hopefully with no issues because now I have to go off to work.
For the record, I was just posting my opinion, and wasn't really trying to influence Deep-Cut or any other company, but hopefully it works out in their favor because I was debating getting another gaming mat anyway, and this offer pushed me over the edge. I probably wouldn't have bought one otherwise.
RiTides wrote: Anyone who was saying they'd instantly order if there was no logo?
I never said such a thing. You and Alpharius can have all the fun at my expense that you want, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth.
Also, needless to say I know who I'm going to blame now if this gaming mat isn't absolutely fething amazing.
Sorry - if you get to potentially hold us responsible, we get to continue to have fun at your expense!
Sidstyler wrote: Well, that was fast. I sent them an e-mail literally minutes ago and they already responded. Just sent payment for a logo-less wasteland mat, hopefully with no issues because now I have to go off to work.
Wasteland? Nice. We already have pics of the urban one, so please post pics of the wasteland mat once you receive it
It was either that one or the snow theme, ended up going wasteland because I've been wanting something more desert-y. I'll take a couple pics whenever it shows up.
Announcing a new release for space battle lovers - a Deep Space themed mats in 4x6 feet and 3x3 feet sizes with wonderful art by Jan Jasinski. They are hand drawn while using a special blending technique to acquire unique cloud effects of the nebula. Such art was bound to be printed on highest quality vinyl material to meet the highest standard for your gaming table. The mats will become available on 28th of April, until then all preorders receive -10% discount. www.deepcutstudio.com
If anyone is thinking about logo-less Deep Space mat, then we have to note, that the mat will still feature a small 'drawn by Jan Jasinski' text in the corner since it's part of the licencing agreement.
Well, I just sent you an email! If there is any way I could switch my order to this mat, I would really love to do so. I don't need the 10% preorder discount, you can just transfer the full-priced order that I already placed... hopefully this makes up for the possibility of your already having printed a nebula mat (I'm sure someone else would love to get it without a logo, anyway ).
The "drawn by Jan Jasinski" in the corner is fine, from what I can see in that second pic that is much less obtrusive than the logo.
So check your email and let me know please
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Edit: And got a reply already, I'll be getting this one instead, woot! Super excited, as it's a nice compromise between just a simple starfield and the nebula... just what I was looking for
I've ordered a 3' x 3' wasteland to play malifaux on after seeing the logo free offer. Had a super quick response from them, but obviously it's easter so it'll take a few extra days. Looking forwards to seeing it in the flesh.
They don't offer 4x8 as a standard option, so I'm not sure... I guess that would be a custom order and they probably would have to stretch the art. 4x6 seems to be all the rage these days
Wehrkind wrote: That is a really lovely mat. Well done guys! I actually considered for a moment getting one to hang on my wall...
Speaking of which, are any of the Hubble Telescope pics public domain? Those might make really awesome space mats.
Relevant quote from wikipedia
This file is in the public domain because it was created by NASA and ESA. NASA Hubble material (and ESA Hubble material prior to 2009) is copyright-free and may be freely used as in the public domain without fee, on the condition that only NASA, STScI, and/or ESA is credited as the source of the material. This license does not apply if ESA material created after 2008 or source material from other organizations is in use.
NASA ones are public domain on account of NASA being a US government agency, no idea how the ESA ones work but there's a pretty clear line for you.
Azazelx wrote: I haven't been participating in the discussion, but I'm one of those who would strongly prefer to get mats without a logo. Especially when it comes to about AU$100 for a mat. While I feel no need to justify my preference, I'll go with "I strongly prefer them without visible logos".
So it's a great offer by Deep-Cut, though my funds for the rest of this month are tied up/committed, so I won't be able to afford one. Hopefully they can keep the logo-free mats going as an option for those of us who care going forward, and I'll likely end up getting one or two in the next month or two.
I'm not fussed either way with the logo either but like Az probably would like one without. perhaps you could just use an outline or embossed look to get your brand on them without being too obvious? also Az, if you're ordering in the next couple of months drop me a line and I'll go in with you and get one too they look good!
Very nice Eggs. That's pretty much exactly what I had in mind; these Deep Cut mats pretty well solidified for me the idea that a mat/play surface can be pretty enough to store vertically against a wall.
Thanks and congratulations to those, who ordered their mats without logos. Let's hear your impressions once you receive them.
This week we would like to announce two new maps for RPG lovers. The great duo comes from Lord Zsezse Works range. Naturally these maps feature exquisite art to suit even the most fastidious taste. Top of the line visuals paired with top of the line materials aimed for the best gaming experience. You deserve no less. The Temple of Abaddon and Oargkan’s Labyrinth maps will become available on 12th of May. Until then preorders receive a -10% discount.
I will definitely post my impressions once I've received mine
Those RPG mats look really cool. The only downside is not being able to reconfigure layouts... have you considered doing smaller squares that could be put together in different ways?
Are mats still available with no logos, or did that end in April? Also, pics of the mats showing logos would be nice, because it would be nice to see how badly it contrasts.
With some of the pictures, it might not be as bad as others.
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exalted for finally some clear and nice pics of the urban mat
the only problem I have with such sheet mats is that frequent reuse will eventually lead to them getting torn or developing dog-ears or getting folded by mistake etc.
The snark is really not helpful, Kroot... your posts for the last month in this thread have been mostly sarcastic remarks about the logo. Thankfully, Deep-Cut Studio took the opposite approach and offered logo-free mats during the same month.
Certainly looking forward to receiving mine (got my shipping notice for the newly designed space mat on May 1st!).
@RiTides: we have some modular maps as well. Check some releases from Dream Weaved Worlds or Heroic Maps (more from their range coming out soon)
@nolzur: yes, mats with no logos offer is still available, although we make them under the usual 'custom print' conditions - extra 5-10% for custom design works if they are required. Cobblestone Streets and Rake's Corner mats come without logos by default (agreement with DavesGames conditions).
I am thinking of getting one of these mats for the forthcoming AVP game and I'll be using the Deadzone terrain. Are the mat surfaces slippery? Does the terrain slide around at all? I was wondering because the Deadzone terrain is light. Does anyone here have the Space Platform mat? I'd like to see additional pictures if you do because the ones on the website aren't very large and it's hard to see the detail.
Got my mat yesterday, it's a 3' x 3' wasteland with no logo. I'm really happy with it, it looks good and arrived with no problems. The curling you can see in one of the pics is because I'd only just taken it out of the tube it was shipped in.
Yes, I do- I'll try to snap a pic in a day or two of the comparison. The thickness doesn't matter so much once you're actually playing on it, of course, but might make one or the other more durable, etc (Frontline's material is basically that of a mousepad, I'm not exactly sure what Deep Cut's is).
Mine was marked as shipped on May 1st but I haven't gotten anything yet. It didn't provide a name for a shipping company or a tracking number, either, just says "shipped" on PayPal. It's international shipping so it doesn't really mean anything yet, but still.
So do you think durability is really an issue? I had a feeling it might be a bit on the thinner side but I imagine it's not literally like paper or anything. Judging from the pic earlier up it looks like the image quality is pretty decent, which is really what I was interested in. My GaleForce9 mat is printed on that mouse pad material and I'm not really a big fan, since like a mouse pad the image doesn't look very "crisp". At least to me anyway.
Size DOES matter! With that in mind most of our wargame mats will be available not only as 4x6 feet size, but as 3x3 and 4x4 feet as well to suit Malifaux and most other miniature skirmish games. All space themed mats will also be available as 3x6 feet size to suit the Epic Battle format for X-Wing. We will launch them on 26th of May, until then all preorders receive -10% discount. Grab some at our webshop and impress your comrades!
DeepCutStudio wrote: Size DOES matter! With that in mind most of our wargame mats will be available not only as 4x6 feet size, but as 3x3 and 4x4 feet as well to suit Malifaux and most other miniature skirmish games. All space themed mats will also be available as 3x6 feet size to suit the Epic Battle format for X-Wing. We will launch them on 26th of May, until then all preorders receive -10% discount. Grab some at our webshop and impress your comrades!
Just picked up my 6x4 Arctic Tundra mat today from the PO. Overall very impressed. The mat is about 0.5mm thick but feels strong. Unrolled nicely and lay fairly flat without any reverse rolling. The surface is not too glossy or slippery.
The only crit I would have is that the source image used for the snow is clearly lower res than the part used for the cracked ice. Either that or the source image was slightly blurry.
Looking forward to getting a game in tomorrow on it
I did finally get my mat on...I think it was Friday, I can't remember. Had a messed up week (had to work Friday and found out a friend might have cancer), and just now had time to look at it.
I got a 6'x4' mat, and I didn't unfurl it all the way because I don't really have a lot of room, but you probably get the idea anyway.
I realize the pictures aren't great, the lighting in here is terrible and I think I shrank the photos down too much (they were originally more than twice as big and I didn't want to stretch the thread out), but I think it looks pretty damn good. The dry, cracked places on the mat are kinda fuzzy-looking up close, but the rocky details and sand/dirt are reasonably sharp, and when you're a few feet away it all comes together pretty nicely anyway. It was pricey, but I now have a portable, nicely-detailed and perfectly flat playing surface that I didn't have to put any real effort into, and I think once I get some modular 3D elements made, it'll be pretty fun to play on. Painting the terrain to match may be a challenge, but I'm already getting ideas for using crackle medium and some bark chips to mimic some of the mat details. Playing on this map on MWO gave me some inspiration, too.
Also, I guess you can't really tell since it's not completely unfurled, but no logo! Hopefully Deep-Cut doesn't mind too much (they did get my money after all and got me off the fence), I'll do plenty of advertising for them if I meet anyone in the market for a gaming mat or if someone sees me playing on it and asks. Bad thing is I really want one of the snow/arctic-themed mats now and I'll have to pay extra to get that logo removed.
As far as durability goes I'm just going to mimic RiTides and others. Not too glossy, not too slippery...models will probably slide across it just fine, though I haven't actually played on it. Rolling dice across the surface may not sound as "satisfying" I imagine, but if you really wanted you could probably roll most of your dice in a tray (you probably should anyway). It's really thin, kinda like thick card stock paper more than anything, but it doesn't feel "weak" to me. Naturally I didn't try very hard because I didn't want to actually rip it, but I picked a small corner to test it and I figure it might take some effort to do. You can probably cut it fairly easily with a pair of scissors or a sharp knife though, and I'd be afraid of getting it snagged on something, so you'd probably still want to be careful with it but not much more than the thicker "mouse pad" mats I would think. No idea how you would fare with food/drink spills though, but for me personally I prefer to be careful with that around my gaming stuff anyway and would just rather not have it sitting on/near the table to begin with.
I might build a folding frame out of 1x2's for it to sit inside of, and I should be able to fit it in my car or store it away in the closet and set up on top of an existing table to play on...unlike the last table I built which is big, heavy, and likely never leaving the basement at my dad's place where it's been set up for about 8 years. But yeah, if we're talking purely budget-wise you'd still be better off buying a big sheet of plywood or foam and just gluing sand to it, or if time is no issue and you love doing extensive terrain-building projects then otherwise building your own 3D gaming table would probably be better, but for me personally the gaming mat is just more practical due to space issues, time, etc.
If you boys want to sell these mats you might want to start responding to Messages sent through your website. I dont have à whole lot of trust in ordening with you if you dont even respond.
@Aliusexalio: so far every message we received had a reply even if it was a 'thank you for your feedback' message. If you sent us an answer, you might want to check your spam folder for a reply - we heard some cases that our emails sometimes end up there.
@Aplharius: probably for the next 'size DOES mater' release. Currently 3x3 Ocean mats are available as custom prints.
@Aidstyler: yes, you can easily cut the mat with scissors, hobby knife or cutting blade. The edges will not get frayed. Surface is stain-proof. It's even compatible with water-based markers. Also the mat has enough strength to make a hammock out of it (anyone wants to make a review? )
If you're thinking about Zuzzy vs Deep Cut, realize that I'm sitting on a Zuzzy order from ten+ weeks ago, and I've sent three emails, and received no response to my requests for communication. No matter how cheap zuzzy is, if you need it in any hurry, you're not going to get it.
Deep Cut, for all of it costing more than Zuzzy, at least it's something you'll get in a decent amount of time. And it's finished, ready to play right out of the tube. It's durable. I have both, and while I like both, the hassle in getting my two new zuzzy mats makes me regret not getting Deep Cut mats instead.
I have both too, and like them each for different things. I'll be making a big gaming surface review / comparison post when I get the last few items I'm waiting on this summer, and will compare them then.
We teamed up with Bad Roll Games and their products for Punkapocalyptic miniature game are now available on our webshop. Check them out - it‘s a great skirmish game with interesting mechanics. Free rules are available at http://www.badrollgames.com/en/downloads/
Initiative : Tabletop did a great video review of our Wasteland mat. Have a look at it to see the mat in motion.
Time for a teaser. We love teasers!
And let's make an improvised contest out of it too – leave a comment about what it is going to be on our FB page and win a free mat on the very first day it is released.
https://www.facebook.com/deepcutstudio
Finally we can announce that first of many upcoming fantasy football mats is here. We are glad it received a lot of attention and feedback from you and we hope that final release will find a place on your tables. It is manufactured from a sturdy vinyl and has a scratch resistant high quality print. Virtually it will take hundreds of games to at least see the first marks of its use. Check it out at our gallery or webshop for more close-ups.
If it's bloodbowl it's messed up because the sides are supposed to be four squares not three.
Might want to recount.
Yep, well at least they looked at it again and fixed it. The first picture had only three in the wideout area. I'm glad they listen to feedback, says a lot about them.
We are happy to announce a new gaming mat – a modern / futuristic destroyed highway theme. Infinity players will find it very convenient to have lines marking 8 and 12 inch deployment areas on the 4x6 and 4x4 size mats. Those playing other systems will still enjoy highest resolution detailed image and best PVC mat material available. Mats will ship on 11th of July, until then all preorder receive -10% discount. Check them out at our webstore or FB gallery!
Ian: we don't have plans to make new mods of current design. However there are more futuristic urban settings coming up before winter falls. Check us out from time to time, maybe you will find something for your table.
If you can do a futuristic urban setting at 45 degrees before I get around to making modular terrain tiles for myself (which, to be fair, may never happen), I am in.
The highway is nice but it'd be difficult for me to get enough terrain onto it for an Infinity game, just because the terrain would need to predominantly be vehicles, rubble, goods that might've been spilled from vehicles, improvised barricades, etc. I guess it could work with some of the temporary buildings from Topsolitario... it's very specific though. It'd get kind of samey, I fear, which is a shame, because to my mind it's aesthetically one of the nicest mats you've done yet. I just couldn't use most of the Infinity terrain I have built (buildings) with it.
We are happy to announce a new miniature games mat that is born out of pure feedback from everyone of you. After our latest release of a tarmac themed playmat which you found most suitable for sci-fi environment with Manga aesthetics, we saw a lot of discussion which is better – horizontal or diagonal street lines to mark deployment areas. Well, now you can have both. The new wargames mat is 4’ x 4’ in size, features high detail demolished street view and is manufactured out of highest quality vinyl material. Check our FB gallery or website to see which one you like more and leave us a comment or two.
Alright, retrieved my mat from the post office yesterday. Nice to get something all the way from Lithuania! The shipping tube was very sturdy and the mat suffered no damage whatsoever on its long journey to Virginia. I'm very glad this was shipped via tube, as I really hate the idea of folding a game mat. The only fault I can find with the shipping is cost. I hope Deep-Cut can find a US distributor -- maybe Miniature Market?
I own game mats from Gale Force 9 and HCD Supplies. I really love the GF9 mats. They set the bar as far as I am concerned. They are made of thick, textured vinyl and have high-quality, non-photographic images. (I really do not like NASA photos for my mats.) While the HCD mat have okay images, the material is a big problem. It's that mousepad material -- it's a dirt magnet and it's hard to roll up.
Now that my bias has been disclosed, I can say that I am very pleased with my Deep-Cut mat. It is pretty much as nice as a GF9 mat with one notable exception: it is on thinner vinyl. As such, I think GF9 still ranks number one for this kind of product. Even so, I would recommend Deep-Cut's mats without reservation. Shipping cost aside, their mats are competitively priced and come quite close to GF9 in terms of quality. They have at least one major advantage over GF9 as well: Deep-Cut offers a ton of different mats.
Having pre-ordered D&D Attack Wing Wave 0, I naturally require some kind of grassy field to battle on/above. This mat is truly the perfect fit. The color palette is light enough to work well for a fantasy-themed game without being too cheery. The image detail is very good and catches the eye without being distracting. This is truly a "perfect fit" product. Right now, Deep-Cut is to my knowledge the only company offering a product like this. Anyone getting into D&D Attack Wing should definitely consider getting one.
New miniature games mat is available in our webshop! It expands the selection for those playing alternative modern or futuristic wargames. Needless to say, it’s the usual highest quality print on the premium class vinyl material. The mat comes in three sizes (4x6, 4x4, 3x3 feet) but we can adjust it to your table as a custom work too. Check it out at our gallery for some visual aids and close-ups.
We have a new gaming mat release and this time it‘s for a Blood Bo... fantasy football game! It‘s a second release in our range of football boards and represents stone tiles pitch. Manufactured from indestructible PVC material, scratch-proof and stain-proof surface with highest quality drawing. Best used in environments containing beards, mugs and obsidian dice.
Time for a new gaming mat release! This time we called great artist Jan Jasinski again. When it comes to unique hand drawn space views, nothing and no-one can beat this man. And let the new asteroid field theme speak for itself. The mat is released in three sizes: 3x3, 3x6 and 4x6 feet, is printed on slim but extremely durable PVC and, as all our mats, boasts exceptional detail level and quality. Check it out at our gallery!
Man, that is sweet! Will you be offering a 6x3 size soon?
I only wish the mats weren't quite so glossy - would love to see an actual pic of this one once it is printed up as I think the blue might help it be a little less reflective than straight black.
DeepCutStudio wrote:The mat is released in three sizes: 3x3, 3x6 and 4x6 feet, is printed on slim but extremely durable PVC and, as all our mats, boasts exceptional detail level and quality. Check it out at our gallery!
RiTides wrote:Man, that is sweet! Will you be offering a 6x3 size soon?
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Either he edited his post, you need coffee, or your laying your mats the wrong direction on the table . Whichever it was it got a snicker out of me on a rough day. Thanks (no insults intended as I didn't point out a blonde option )
Any chance you guys might offer a 'cracked concrete' look for one of your mats in the future?
I am not looking for any particular roadway or design across it, I just need an expanse of cracked concrete I can put my own buildings on to simulate a ruined industrial area.
With the concrete if you could be a bit restrained in how it looks (not massive craters or big undulating cracks across its surface like the tarmac one you have), that would be great. I just need to have some concrete which looks like it hasn't been maintained in a long while.
If you were able to make an entire sheet of this, I think a lot of people would find it useful, mainly because it allows them to place terrain where they like, and make their own roads or pathways on it, rather than stick to any specific pre-set determination of which direction it is supposed to lay, what angle buildings can be set at, etc. It would make for a fantastic base on which to set an urban ruin/industrial wasteland.
Just a thought Once I get my finances in order I am likely to do a bulk buy from you to grab a whole bunch and save on shipping.
Fenriswulf: and it's a great idea indeed! Looks like we have been on the same course lately, only difference is that today's release is for a different setting.
Time for a new gaming mat release! This time it‘s something for fantasy or historical wargames – a cobblestone background. With no strict areas or streets, you can place your terrain scenery in gazillion ways to make each battle unique. These PVC mats come in standard 4x6, 4x4 and 3x3 sizes. But we can add squares, hexes, lines, or change the mat size according to your gaming table as easy as 1-2-3. Check them out at our website and let us know what you think!
Yes, roads, rivers, trenches - lots of considerations were (and are) done. However small PVC sheets don't look as good on the table as we would like to see them. But we have few ideas to make them see the daylight. Maybe even this year.
Thanks for taking on the ideas for a concrete mat, I really appreciate it!
As for the cobblestone mat, that looks fantastic, and I think it would be a really cool mat to have for Malifaux. You could put all kinds of cool buildings and the like on it and have it work from the get go. I really like it. It's yet another one to add to the list of mats I want to buy from you guys in the future, heh
So, the five 3x3 Mats I ordered came in yesterday, a whole week earlier than I was expecting!
The four mats I got for D&D Attack Wing were perfect, and beautiful and exactly what I wanted!
The Blue Asteroid one I got for Star Trek came with some noticeable scratches though. The scratches aren't terrible, but they were noticeable as soon as I unrolled it, and when I took the Mats to the store to show them off, others noticed the scratches right away too.
So, 4 out of 5, lol.
We got to play with one of the D&D ones (the Grassy Field), and I gotta say, it exceeded my expectations in terms of play surface. I was expecting the figures to slide around some, but that wasn't the case at all, the Mat had just enough grip that bumps to the table didn't shift the figures at all. I'm also very happy with how quickly it laid flat after taking it out of the tube.
So, overall, I would recommend these mats to others (and may buy more for my group in the future), with the side note that they may arrive scratched.
Ah, 4 out of 5 is not a good option. Let's see how this ends up on emails where we are looking for a ways to make it 5 out of 5. In other news:
How about a miniature games battlefield that fits into your pocket? How about a gaming mat that has a highest picture quality and deepest colors that available technology can afford? And how about it is so easy to take care of, that each and every battle can be played on a flawless table? And here we are with an answer.
The goal of our newly released gaming mats was simple – an ultra-portable and ultra-high quality wargames table for a reasonable price. First we came up with synthetic cloth, because it is very lightweight, has very good durability properties and is very easy to take care of. You can machine-wash it or iron it, so the mat is always as brand new. Even without these fancy wet procedures all you have to do is lay it on the table, stroke it a few times and those nasty folding lines are gone. Then we came up with heat transferred imprinting technique, called dye sublimation. Because during this process the paint are soaked into a material, they never scratch off. Because we use only the best paint available, the colors will stay sharp even after countless hours of gaming. And then we took all our designs for available gaming mats and made them real.
To celebrate this until December 14th all gaming mats are available with a -10% discount with a code ‘gimmecloth’ at our webshop checkout window. Grab yourself a part of upcoming holiday joy and get ready for the next year’s gaming pleasure!
Is the cloth mat less glossy? That's my main problem with the mat I have from you guys already. Particularly as a black space mat, the gloss is unfortunately really high.
Also some news:
Loads of new mats are available at our webshop to celebrate the end of the year! Yes, we teamed up with a new studio - Wargame Print and launched 4 new designs in 3 different sizes on 2 different materials. These are generic landscape backgrounds and are suitable for any setting, any scale and any scenario: rocky plains, arctic tundra, wild steppe and deep waters theme for naval battles. Mats come in 4x6, 4x4 and 3x3 sizes and are available as PVC or cloth options. Check them out at our gallery and prepare yourself for the upcoming 2015. Happy holiday!
New mats look great! What I'd really like to see (and haven't from you or your competitors) would be some mats suitable for Zone Mortalis. 4x4 with lots of 2"-4" wide corridors. Obviously I'd rather have Forgeworld's nice resin pieces, but those are both expensive and time-consuming to paint.
I like the rocky plains one, but it seems to have an almost grid like texture to it, like you can see where the image piece has been added in, or the picture has been procedurally generated. Still good though. What I'd really like is a kind of broken rock with red/brown mud and earth and dead plants and the like, kind of like the scenery you see in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat. Just the rocks and ground texture mostly, the rest I can add in myself with terrain.
Erren: indeed it would be great. The only reason we haven't launched one so far is replayability value.
RiTides: we will have video comparison of both types of mats pretty soon now
Fenriswulf: we heard you few posts before And concrete mat (which is partially done) will (hopefully) find the way to our list before spring comes. As for plains textures - it's a trick of the eye. Plains and Steppe share very similar textures. We tried various angles with a rolled out mat, but a grid is nowhere to be seen when mat lies on the table.
Awesome! Cracked concrete will be absolutely brilliant, and if I want vegetation I can just add in scenic elements of it to put on the top of it. This will be awesome, thanks so much guys!
I know you make mats but could it be possible for you to make hills covered in the same material to match the mats,
like you buy a set of blank modular hills then a kit which lets you cover them to go with your board.
e.earnshaw: an interesting idea. You might want to consider cloth mats for this case. You can make the hill shape out of foam and glue the cloth on top of it. Now that thinking about it, we might even try it out ourselves...
Just saw a video on YouTube comparing your asteroid cloth and pvc mat. I'm interested in getting a space mat but I have a few concerns.
Firstly, the mat came folded up and the creasing looks really bad. Would it not be possible to ship them in tubes rolled up like the vinyl ones. Surely you want the customer to receive the product in the best condition? It shouldnt be up to them to fix something that could have been prevented. Considering that the image is heat transferred on, i have doubts if the mat could be ironed to remove the folds.
Secondly, the colours seem noticeably different between the cloth and pvc mats, it looks flatter and less vibrant on the cloth. It would be great if you could get photos of your actual mats and not renders so we can see what we are actually buying and compare the finish of the cloth and pvc options.
I am primarily interested in the cloth (as i'm sure others are) because it's not as reflective as the pvc. This is important as i want the use the mat for video battle reports and glare would ruin the shots.
Inquisitor Earl: there is lots of truth in your words, yes. But then again we considered all possible cases before releasing these mats in a way we did.
- Cloth does not hold shape while it is rolled. Imagine your bedsheet rolled and you are very close to a feeling of a mat. Even in tubes they will catch some wrinkles while shipping or storing them in a corner. Cloth mats are a battlefields-in-a-pocket that can be used 'on the go'. If someone wants their X-Wing minis to look top-notch, they are painting them. If I want more variety in my army regiment, I am making conversions. If you want your gaming surface ideal, then it's few minutes of iron-man cosplay and you can have it. Folding lines are important part of being a cloth mat.
- Colors - the cloth mats are completely mat (as non-reflective) while PVC has a slight glossy look. That changes the way they look. Of course the colors itself look a little bit different on both mats, since two completely different printing techniques are used, but definitely not out of the league. We did lots of test prints with fading colors, natural / artificial colors, various levels of black and we think that we found 'the right' looks. Natural backgrounds look natural, laser beams look laser-ish. As for image deepness - it's the same image in 300 dpi. We will let you be the judge of this question.
- Cloth mats are machine washable and can be ironed. We tried it numerous times as part of durability tests and we guarantee that they are compatible.
More pictures and video footage with cloth mats will surely appear in time. And we understand that one mat might not suite everyone's needs. For that reason we are offering custom prints with different color tones.
In other news, water themed mats – Ocean and Darkwater are now available as 4x4 size PVC and cloth versions. And a modified version of one of our space themed gaming mats too. Check them out at our website!
Wyrmalla: yes, we do. More like green with a bit of brown, but we are still in early stages and are tinkering with initial layout and textures to talk more details. Check us out at late February or early March.
Sining: not in upcoming season at least. But street-sih design is in our long 'to-do' list, so sooner or later...
It‘s news from hell this time! New inferno themed wargames terrain mat is available on our website. As usual it comes in 4x6, 4x4 and 3x3 sizes, but can be tailored for your custom size table as easy as 1-2-3. The mats are available as PVC versions for constant use and abuse or cloth versions for ultra-mobile gaming table. And we are proud of exceptionally detailed professional artwork as well. Check them out at our website and pick yours now!
We have a new gaming mat release and it is something we wanted to share with you for a long time now. This futuristic football gaming mat is larger than what you might usually find on the tables. It has 33mm size hexes, so moving the miniatures is much easier. It has a rugged PVC surface so the board can withstand seasons of gameplay. It has a high quality design that your game deserves. And it can be yours right here and right now. Check our website for more close-ups and expect more soon.
Indeed! Tracking numbers are available in case shipment gets delayed, express delivery, shipping price at USPS says it's ~42 USD for domestic large parcels compared to our 9.9 GBP (~15 USD). And the price is fixed for unlimited amount of mats.
Announcing a release of new gaming mat – desert theme is ready to go. We felt the need for some pure sandy landscapes from you and here is what we came up with. Mats are available in popular 4x6, 4x4 and 3x3 sizes, manufactured on PVC and cloth as well. Check them out at our website.
Got my new mat through today and I obviously did not read the description right. For some reason I thought the cloth mats were made out of mouse mat material!
What is the likelihood of you guys making your mats with mouse mat material? I have a 3x3 and a 2x2 out of your PVC material and whilst nice I have no end of trouble with the corners rolling up no matter which way I roll it. I wanted to continue buying your lovely mats and was hoping this new material would get me to stay as there is no other manufacturers with your range of choices.
The mat I received whilst nice (apart from logo in the corner) I'm not 100% sold on the practicality of gaming (I'll find out next Friday) as it seems it may 'fold' whilst sliding minatures around. Also this seems it's going to be a nightmare to store/transport without it creasing, I'll iron mine out and see what happens. Has anyone else had this problem, and how did you solve it?
overtyrant: let's hear how it turned out for you. As for mousepad material - we have something coming in a few months.
Meanwhile more news:
New gaming mat release! We are starting the month with the addition of swamp theme wargames mat to our range. This release was probably most challenging to create design-wise, but Jan Jasinski outdone himself again. Let the pictures at our gallery speak for themselves. The mat is manufactured on PVC or cloth in the popular 4x6, 4x4, 3x3 sizes but custom prints are available to suit the size of any table. Come, check it out, but watch your step - it’s slippery and deadly when wet. And it’s always wet in here…
DeepCutStudio wrote: overtyrant: let's hear how it turned out for you. As for mousepad material - we have something coming in a few months.
Meanwhile more news:
New gaming mat release! We are starting the month with the addition of swamp theme wargames mat to our range. This release was probably most challenging to create design-wise, but Jan Jasinski outdone himself again. Let the pictures at our gallery speak for themselves. The mat is manufactured on PVC or cloth in the popular 4x6, 4x4, 3x3 sizes but custom prints are available to suit the size of any table. Come, check it out, but watch your step - it’s slippery and deadly when wet. And it’s always wet in here…
God I wish you could give more details or be more specific - I have been wanting to order your mats for a while now (pretty much every space themed one for all the Firestorm Armada players in my area... we need like 6 mats ) but have waited because I have been holding out to see if you guys do one with mousepad material. We have one from frontline gamine and enjoy it immmensly over PVC or cloth mats (not your company's pvc or cloth but others, in general).... so I am just hopiong you come out with more detail soon
Meanwhile:
Time for a new release – a gaming mat with urban ruins theme. Available as 4x6, 4x4 or 3x3 in size, manufactured on PVC or cloth, but can be custom tailored to any table size or with any variation of grids or hexes. It was a challenge to find the balance between general rubble and geometry of a city since we wanted it to serve as a universal background for any possible scenery deployment options. Check out more visuals at our gallery and let us know how well we succeeded!
Erren wrote: New mats look great! What I'd really like to see (and haven't from you or your competitors) would be some mats suitable for Zone Mortalis. 4x4 with lots of 2"-4" wide corridors. Obviously I'd rather have Forgeworld's nice resin pieces, but those are both expensive and time-consuming to paint.
I don't want walls or structures on it, but a mat that represents the interior of an industrial complex, factory, spaceship interior decking would be awesome. Basically looks like the bare Zone Mortalis tiles without any walls, etc.
Question - I really like your mats, but I might be looking for something soon to have for Dropzone commander. Are you able to scale your graphics down and put more detail on the mats, to make them look more reasonable for a 10mm game system?
I am not sure if I am wording myself correctly here. I'd be looking for something which uses the same graphics, but printed at a much smaller scale, but on the same size mat. A large Dropzone game apparently goes on a 6' x 4' mat, so you'd need a way to shrink the current mat graphics of that same mat size, and then overlap/repeat them randomly so they don't look too similar.
Sorry if I keep being so demanding. Just wondering is all
Ordered one of your 3x3 Xwing type mats, receive it very quickly, unfortunately the tube was damaged leaving the mat significantly crushed.
Is there a safe way to flatten the vinyl if it is badly creased and pinched? Can it be ironed under a damp dishcloth or anything.
I will be contacting DeepCut seperately but wanted to open this up to solutions from customers as well.
Fenriswulf: yes, we can modify sizes of mats as well as scales.
New gaming mat release! We greet summer with new addition to futuristic football mats range. Simple, yet elegant Tron inspired design is available for your consideration. Comes manufactured on PVC and has 33mm hexes to move your team around without frustration of knocking over nearby miniatures. Check other designs on our website as well!
MeanGreenStompa: one of these days we will. Till then we will do our best to offer best overseas shipping options we can.
New gaming mat release! We updated the Badlands design, included more sweet details and tailored it to look better on your tables than before. The new mat comes in PVC or cloth versions and three different sizes (4x6, 4x4 and 3x3) as compared to a single 4x6 size PVC of a previous version. Check out more visuals at our website and let us know what you think!
Another new gaming mat release! Our latest addition to miniature games mats is a dedication to everybody who loves aerial combats. The mat is available as 4x6 size background or two separate 3x4 size mats that make one continuous 4x6 size image. Manufactured on PVC for heavy duty usage or synthetic cloth for ultra-portability they are a must have for dogfight lovers. Check them out at our website!
New gaming mat release! And it’s another addition to aerial combat lovers. The gaming mats come in 4x6 and 3x4 sizes where two 3x4s make one continuous picture. They are manufactured on premium high durability PVC or synthetic cloth for high mobility. Check them out at our gallery and let us know what you think.
New gaming mat release! Urban Wasteland terrain mat is a perfect theme to suit post-apocalyptic and dystopian future settings. It is manufactured on premium class PVC or ultra-portable synthetic cloth and fits 4x6, 4x4 or 3x3 size tables. However any custom size or additional grids or hexes are available as custom prints in just a few days. Check them out at our website but please handle with care and with constant awareness of Geiger counter readings.
Ooh, I was looking for a new mat to replace the desert one I bought from Deep Cut Studious. I didn't like the thin PVC I have that one in (I need to tape the edges down), so this is the excuse to replace that with a cloth one. Huh, and is that a darker brown than the regular desert/wasteland mat? I found the one I had to be too yellow, but that one looks like it'll fit my model's bases much better.
Edit: Still looking for one for my Eastern European stuff though. Hmn, that swamp one could do, though one with more brown earth between all that moss would be nicer...
I have a 3x3 space themed cloth mat. The image on them are fantastic, real depth of colour without the glare of pvc which I despise. Problem I have with the cloth ones is I'm constantly pulling the mat to straighting it out, they crease VERY easily though I've found rolling them into a tube helps this though they do not supply you with one. I think these problems will multiply the bigger the mats get. IMODCS have some of the best mats out there (I own 2 PVC and one cloth DCS mats). Though I am waiting for them to produce them in a mousemat esc material before I buy another, as soon as they do I'll buy the swamp one in 4x4 and the new wasteland on in 3x3.
I'd assume that the cloth ones at least don't curl up constantly unless you tape them down? Creasing's one thing, needing to bring a roll of tape with you to every game is another. I take it then that the cloth's pretty thin?
overtyrant wrote: I have a 3x3 space themed cloth mat. The image on them are fantastic, real depth of colour without the glare of pvc which I despise. Problem I have with the cloth ones is I'm constantly pulling the mat to straighting it out, they crease VERY easily though I've found rolling them into a tube helps this though they do not supply you with one. I think these problems will multiply the bigger the mats get. IMODCS have some of the best mats out there (I own 2 PVC and one cloth DCS mats). Though I am waiting for them to produce them in a mousemat esc material before I buy another, as soon as they do I'll buy the swamp one in 4x4 and the new wasteland on in 3x3.
That is my feeling for the materials as well (I have one of their PVC mats). I love their designs, and would instabuy them in a mousepad material, but won't be buying anything else of theirs in PVC (due to flimsiness and especially glare). I don't think cloth is a good enough substitute, they really need to look into the material their competition is using or else they are going to fall behind!
Mousepad mats you asked, mousepad mats you have got
Major news announcement! Our wargames terrain mats are now available on mousepad material along with previous choices of PVC and cloth. That’s more than 50 new various themes and sizes. Mousepad mats are manufactured on a cloth with a 2mm thick non-slippery rubber foam backing. It ensures instant flatness of the gaming surface, easy card handling on the table, silent dice rolling. The paint are soaked into the material, meaning they will never scratch off. Check them out at our website and grab some while limited supplies last.
Wow! When you say "manufactured on a cloth", I'm not quite sure what that means, since the pic you've shown has cloth looking different than the mousepad. Is it just the cloth attached to a mousepad material, or is it printed on another material from your normal cloth mats?
Most of all, could you give a picture of one or of a test piece? I am very interested! But would like to see a photo first if possible
Mousepad material is what it is - a synthetic cloth with a rubber foam backing. And it comes with rubber backing as default, we do not add the backing to preprinted cloth surfaces.
The picture in a previous post shows the back of each material. Cloth is just a cloth, like an ordinary t-shirt or summer dress. Mousepad - cloth with with additional layer of black rubber foam.
Here is an image we borrowed from the internets with a zoom in and some neat flowers in the background. It's not our design, but it is how our mats look like:
What's the pricing on the new Mouse Mat versions? Did haev a poke about the site, but couldn't see it leaping out at me.
Also, are you getting exact 4 foot square with the mouse mat? Its an issue I have with my current supplier (though he may have fixed that with his new batch) where the mats are 47.5 x 48.5 " which is an issue.
Same here - my pvc one turned up yesterday but I'd have got the mouse-mat version if I'd have known...
Me too, I bought a mat from Deep-Cut a few months ago.
However, I am very happy with my PVC mat. The glare I haven't had a problem with as it's a space mat and so shininess isn't quite so much of an issue as it would be with a mat depicting rolling fields etc. It sits completely flat after careful flattening with sheets of MDF, and feels sturdy enough that it will last a very long time with careful handling.
. Whoops
the mats are to enhance the feel of the game, and the logo destroys it for me as well as others. Saying we need to see a GP( I guess that's Australian for doctor) is being ignorant.
. When I win the lottery I might buy a jumbo jet and get a group together to play x-wing during freefall so I can have 3d, but it better be quick turns or it'll be a pain to re set up the "board" before gravity kicks back in 
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