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Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/04 04:06:21


Post by: WarOne


 pretre wrote:
Nidmageddon for Rumor Mongers has started. Just off of the pre-releases:

Natfka
True 10
False 28
PT/V 2

Larry Vela aka Big Red from BOLS
True 4
False 36


Stickmonkey
True 6
False 6
PT/V 4


Ouch. Scatter shooting rumors does not seem to be the best idea.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/04 06:16:48


Post by: pretre


Big Red looks to have been making stuff up wholesale or had the worst kind of source.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/04 17:04:47


Post by: Avian


This one was, sadly, false.

Tyranids and Tyranid Hunters - Oct 2013
via Bigred over on the Bols Lounge
-Emphasis on model releases will be to get out all the missing models in the previous codex PENDING


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/04 17:07:22


Post by: pretre


Got it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/10 16:00:45


Post by: pretre


Nidmageddon continues!

4chan
T2
F17
PT1

Natfka
F61
T13
PT -1

Larry Vela
F31
T2
PT1

Tyren
F31
T 5


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/10 22:11:05


Post by: Avian


Natfka on Faeit 212

Tyranid Rumors - Dec 2013
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Tyranids have their own psyker discipline containing 6 powers, with no access to any of the normal disciplines out of the rulebook. FALSE

I would say this is partly true.



Larry Vela aka Big Red
Tyranid Rumors - Dec 2013
Lictors only allow snap shots plus gain a hefty cover save when they are unveiled. TRUE

I believe this is FALSE

Hormagaunts come equipped with Fleet by default. PENDING

TRUE


Carnifex gains a T bonus, and may take virtually every biomorph in the codex (bringing back all those plastic bits from the kit into use.) PENDING

FALSE


Trygon & Raveners digital dataslate from GW Digital the same month as the codex release with a formation allowing Raveners to assault out of the Trygon's Deep Strike tunnel. PENDING

FALSE (dataslate is vanguard swarm, not subterranean)


Tyranid Warriors available in both HQ (Tyranid Prime)and Troops. TRUE

As I read it, it says that if you buy a Prime, you can get Warriors in HQ, which you can't.


Tyranids and Tyranid Hunters - Oct 2013
via Bigred over on the Bols Lounge
-An emphasis on making EVERY unit in the codex viable this time around PENDING

FALSE (HAH!)


-The army rules and theme are focused on adaptability of unit abilities and inter-unit synergy PENDING

FALSE


Tyranid Rumors - August 2013
- Hiveguard gain Skyfire PENDING

FALSE



Stickmonkey

Tyranid Rumors - Sep 2013
- Codex obviously TRUE

Doesn't qualify as a rumour


- Set of Psychic Cards (whether this is one list or two shorter lists, I'm not certain, but I am certain they will get a deck for their powers) TRUE

*Barely* qualifies as a rumour.


Tyranid Rumors - Sep 2013
-New/New: 2 models TRUE

Not a rumour.


Tyren
- Lictor: PENDING

PARTLY TRUE


- Gargoyles: PENDING

FALSE


- Hormagaunts: PENDING

PARTLY TRUE


- Venomthropes; PENDING

FALSE


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/11 02:02:54


Post by: pretre


Updated everything except that warrior one. I think he's saying Prime is HQ and Warriors are troops.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/11 02:31:36


Post by: WarOne


So where do you think most of their rumors came from as it appears a great deal of information was way off.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/11 04:12:35


Post by: pretre


 WarOne wrote:
So where do you think most of their rumors came from as it appears a great deal of information was way off.

I think they pulled most of it out of their butts. They, or their 'source', made it up for fame, fortune and click throughs.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/11 10:14:32


Post by: Avian


Take the guy who claimed to have seen a release schedule with Tyranids on it back in November. That can't exactly have changed during play testing...


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/11 16:35:19


Post by: Shandara


They seem to get only the no-brainers correct (like every codex getting pyschic cards, no really?).


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/11 20:30:44


Post by: Avian


This is how Stickmonkey got his 33 % accuracy score.

"Nids in November!"
-> No nids in November
"Nids in December!"
-> No nids in December
"Nids in January!"
-> Woohoo! Nids in January.



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/11 21:28:28


Post by: pretre


Avian wrote:
This is how Stickmonkey got his 33 % accuracy score.

"Nids in November!"
-> No nids in November
"Nids in December!"
-> No nids in December
"Nids in January!"
-> Woohoo! Nids in January.


That's pretty much exactly it. I lol'd.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/11 21:51:32


Post by: Shandara


At least his accuracy should be going up as we approach that point where all the codices have been updated.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/11 21:56:38


Post by: pretre


 Shandara wrote:
At least his accuracy should be going up as we approach that point where all the codices have been updated.

even then, I doubt it. He pinned himself on some pretty out there crap.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/12 10:30:13


Post by: Avian


I think it has been shown pretty clearly that if you are making up rumours, your accuracy score will be *at best* inversely proportional to the amount of "rumours" you post. If you are selective and don't post a lot, you can get a reasonable percentage right, but once you go for the "throw enough crap at the wall" approach, it's going to drop fairly quickly.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/12 20:31:41


Post by: Zweischneid


Rumor from today via necronspurs2012: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/572848.page


The new starter set for warhammer fantasy 9th edition set to be released this summer will contain orcs and goblins and empire. The set will contain mounted riders for empire and gunners. Night goblins and orcs with a river troll for O & G. There is set to be around 50 models in this set with more than said here.

Note this is from a good source though the models content is not tor definite.


There seems to be another guy caught up in necronspurs2012's spoiler-window too.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/12 20:57:17


Post by: pretre


Thanks, I'll add it. That guy is certainly off and running.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/12 21:37:51


Post by: Zweischneid


 pretre wrote:
Thanks, I'll add it. That guy is certainly off and running.


Cool

Mr. "Neil Kerr aka Skcuzzl" is still in necronspur's box though. I think there's a spoiler tag missing.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/13 07:29:06


Post by: Kroothawk


Nevermind, ninja'd


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/13 14:53:28


Post by: pretre


Fixing now. Thanks!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/13 22:27:36


Post by: Avian


ChargeAndDie has been accidentally merged with Chipstar.


Regarding current rumours, I find it quaint to imagine FW, who don't have any interest in doing FB, doing the Hobbit stuff.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/13 22:37:26


Post by: pretre


Yeah, Natfka has been gung-ho on Forgeworld recently. Forgeworld this and FW that. Kinda crazy.

I also sorted out some confusion with this new necronspurs guy. Apparently some of the stuff Natfka posted as 'anonymous source' is his...


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/20 16:36:30


Post by: pretre


Updated a bunch of recently posted stuff.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/27 16:48:21


Post by: pretre


Man, ton of noise right now. Updated.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/27 23:05:57


Post by: cvtuttle


Quite honestly - the failure pretty much across the board for Nid rumors has really turned me off to believing anything I hear outside of my own sources at this point. There was so much wish-listing, of which the majority proved to be false...

Was really looking forward to pooping out 4D6 gaunts with no chance of getting constipated! I would have paid hefty for that biomorph!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/27 23:08:20


Post by: RiTides


Have I mentioned that this thread is awesome recently? No?

Okay... it's awesome

Thanks for putting in all the work on this, it takes the "wild west" rumor scene and makes it much more manageable with being able to do a near-instant check of any rumormonger's record.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/27 23:20:28


Post by: fullheadofhair


You know, reading through this just demonstrates how well GW have clamped down on leaks in their various departments and how well they have compartmentalized different elements of the design process.

What the nid release seems to have demonstrated to me is that unless the source is direct out of the studio (for rules), or some has actually seen artwork or a model most of the rumors are now just made up. The chances of anything being truely real 3months before a release is very slim or is just guess work.

It really seems to me that the good ol' leaky like a sieve days (you Mr Thorpe, looking at you) had definitely long past.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/28 15:52:45


Post by: pretre


I don't know that it says that. It says that there are people with good sources who will give good information and there are people who want clicks/hits and will make up anything they can.

Look through the tracker and you'll be able to see the difference.

@RITides: No prob man.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/28 20:03:51


Post by: Avian


40kradio

Release Schedule - Oct 2013
Mar – Dwarfs FALSE

Release Schedule - Sep 2013
Feb: Dwarfs TRUE

(it's important not to change one's mind too much)



75hastings69

Fantasy Release Rumors - May 2013
Dwarves should be with you early next year. TRUE

Fantasy Schedule - March 2013
2014
DE FALSE
Dwarfs TRUE


Darnok (from Warseer)

Harry's Fantasy Recap
Dwarves - Expected before WE TRUE



Natfka on Faeit 212

Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
Heavy Armor Infantry Box is Hammerers/Ironbreakers dual build. They look
just so much better than their older versions, quite some variation
considering their former lack of such. FALSE

Release Schedule - Nov 2013
Dwarfs TRUE


GDD over at Chaos-Dwarfs

Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
Hammerers / Ironbreaker Box FALSE
Longbeards / Rangers Box FALSE



Harry from Warseer


Fantasy Release - Nov 2013

I have known for a while that Dwarves would be the first fantasy army release of 2014.
When I heard back in the summer they were finished, photographed and the book done is entirely consistent with a February/March release (based on previous time scales). TRUE



Larry Vela aka Big Red

Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
Plastic infantry heavy armor unit kit (dual-build) TRUE

Release Schedule - Dec 2013
Dwarfs (Q1) TRUE

Dwarf and Wood Elf - Nov 2013
Dwarfs
February Release TRUE
New Hammerers TRUE



Maelström

Dwarf Rumors - Oct 2013
Dwarfs are due in "early 2014"(corroborating other sources saying March 2014) TRUE
Hammerers / Ironbreaker Box FALSE
Longbeards / Rangers Box FALSE



necronspurs2012

Release List - Jan 2014
Dwarfs TRUE



Stickmonkey

Release Schedule - Sep 2013
Feb: Brettonians or Dwarves wfb TOO VAGUE



Tim the Thief

Release Schedule - Nov 2013
February - Imperial Guard I FALSE

Fantasy Releases - Sep 2013
February: Dwarfs TRUE


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And here are some other Dwarf ones from Warseer:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?387531-Newer-Dwarf-Rumors&p=7034546&viewfull=1#post7034546

ChargeAndDie wrote:I have tons of new rumours from my source. He was spot on with the dark elves (including the peg leg fleetmaster) so I do believe him.

Runelord can't add DD
Dwarf army can add 2 DD every magic phase
Anvil is Boune spell (can plus the S for dwarf)
Dwarf Gyrocopter(new models) can make two version:
1 is bomber(max can take 2)
2 is fight with machine gun (max can take 6)
A lot new special character
1: king of Eight Peaks TRUE
2: the engineer with big gun
All the new models are infantry (with out Gyrocopte):
1: Hammerer TRUE
2: Black smith
3: Long beard TRUE
4: Slayer
5: Irondragon(name not confirm) new shooting unit
like choas dwraf IG 4+armor S4 T4 weapon is flaming attack
(The hammerer black smith and long beard is in same box, the slayer
other box because no armor, Irondragon other box. all the new models
very cool.)
All the rune are same and warmachine too
The magic item:
1: The armmr can give the user T10


http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?387531-Newer-Dwarf-Rumors&p=7034643&viewfull=1#post7034643

Sorry for the bad English. Haven't had time to clean it up as I'm on my phone. Source also says that hammerers can get 2+ AS with a 6+ ward. Probably with a rune.


http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?387531-Newer-Dwarf-Rumors&p=7034674#post7034674
Tunneler / super cannon kit. I assume it's a greater cannon of sorts.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/28 20:32:12


Post by: pretre


Updated. I think I just had one changed for Larry to duplicate since he doesn't get credit for Q1 and February for Dwarves.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/28 21:11:16


Post by: Ravajaxe


Fantastic compilation ! Keep up the good work.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/01/31 18:12:32


Post by: pretre


Went through and cleaned stuff up.



Can someone check these for me?

RULES
Termagant TRUE
Troops FOC
Unit size up to 30
Cost: 4pt PENDING
Default comes with Fleshborer

Upgrades:
Fleet for 1pt per model PENDING

+1 pt Spike Rifles PENDING
+2 pt Spinefists (now Assault x(minimum of 2) Twinlinked) PENDING
+4 pt Devourers PENDING

1 per 10 can take:
+10 pt Strangleweb PENDING
+15 pt Electroshock Spitter (S4 AP6 Template Assault 1) PENDING

+1 Adrenal Glands - Fleet and Furious Charge PENDING
+1 Toxin sacs - Poison (affects cc attacks) PENDING
+2 Toxic grubs - Poison (affects ranged fire) PENDING


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Okay, let's have some fun!

Rumor Mongers with more than 25 rumors (sorted by win rate)


Rumor mongers with 100% win rate (sorted by number of rumors):


Rumor mongers with a 0% win rate (sorted by number of rumors):



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Keep in mind that win rates are very directional only. Some people post rumors well in advance and some right before. As well, some people with great win rates have still been fooled on big things and led us astray.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/02 20:55:27


Post by: pretre


Since this has come up again on Natfka's blog: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/01/a-new-direction-for-specialist-games.html

If anyone disputes any of the tracking that has been done, I would be more than happy to review it. Simply let me know what is inaccurate and why and we can discuss it right here.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/02 21:10:41


Post by: B0B MaRlEy


About those tyranid things, the only true ones are 4pts termagants and 4pts devourer upgrades.
All other point costs are wrong, and the shooting poison/ Electroshock spitter just don't exist


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/02 21:23:39


Post by: pretre


Perfect! I haven't gotten the dex yet, so that helps a lot. I'll update Monday.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/03 13:02:38


Post by: Avian


The rumours you labeled Already True from ChargeAndDie were made twelve days before the WD leak.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/03 16:27:34


Post by: pretre


Updated!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/08 18:08:48


Post by: Avian


ChargeandDie

Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
Dwarf Gyrocopter(new models) can make two version: TRUE
1 is bomber(max can take 2)
2 is fight with machine gun (max can take 6)

2: the engineer with big gun TRUE

5: Irondragon(name not confirm) new shooting unit TRUE
like choas dwraf IG 4+armor S4 T4 weapon is flaming attack TRUE

Irondragon other box. TRUE


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/10 16:53:25


Post by: pretre


Wow. He's rocking out (ChargeandDie)


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/10 21:16:16


Post by: Avian


Yeah. Too bad nobody else had a clue. Even people who are normally highly reliable.


---------

All the Dwarf ones on the list. There were some recent ones on Natfka and I'll check on those later.


75hastings69
Harry's Fantasy Recap - July 2012
Dwarves - Rumours of a a big plastic, steam driven, wheeled, orc mashing, monsterous contraption in the image of the ancestors. FALSE
On the big Orc mashing kit, it's actually a large plastic re-imagining of the old "dwarf juggernaut" model... with a smashy fist option (as one of three (iirc) options) FALSE
Dwarves - Plastic slayers FALSE



Alebelly_Cragfist

Dwarf Rumors - June 2013
I heard whispers that Vetock was going to do/has done the Dwarf AB. Not confirmed, but likely. TRUE

Harry's Fantasy Recap - July 2012
Dwarves - Squadrons of Gyros are being considered. FALSE
Dwarves - Latest 'Blackfire Pass' WHFRP supplement specifically mentions 2 new machines available to Engineers - The War Zeppelin and a 'warmachine in the likeness of an ancestor.' Such fluff has to be OK'd by GW HQ, so they're happy for both to be canon, which would suggest that whatever the Dwarfs get, it'll be one if not both of these.... The artwork in numerous recent GW releases picturing both would lend further weight to this rumour. FALSE
Dwarves - Blackfirepass supplement. PENDING
Dwarves - Forgeworld have also confirmed they will be releasing a Zep kit, just not when. PENDING
Dwarves - They are also releasing their own Dwarfs in much the same way as their CDs. PENDING
Dwarves - Concentrating on named character models. FALSE



ChargeandDie

Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
Runelord can't add DD TRUE
Dwarf army can add 2 DD every magic phase TRUE
Anvil is Boune spell (can plus the S for dwarf) PARTLY TRUE
Dwarf Gyrocopter(new models) can make two version: TRUE
1 is bomber(max can take 2)
2 is fight with machine gun (max can take 6)

A lot new special character
1: king of Eight Peaks TRUE
2: the engineer with big gun TRUE

All the new models are infantry (with out Gyrocopte):
1: Hammerer TRUE
2: Black smith TRUE
3: Long beard TRUE

4: Slayer PARTLY TRUE
5: Irondragon(name not confirm) new shooting unit TRUE
like choas dwraf IG 4+armor S4 T4 weapon is flaming attack TRUE

(The hammerer black smith and long beard is in same box, TRUE
the slayer other box because no armor, TRUE
Irondragon other box. TRUE
all the new models very cool.)
All the rune are same and warmachine too FALSE
The magic item:
1: The armmr can give the user T10 TRUE

Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
Source also says that hammerers can get 2+ AS with a 6+ ward. Probably with a rune. FALSE

Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
Tunneler / super cannon kit. I assume it's a greater cannon of sorts. FALSE



Eldargal
Harry's Fantasy Recap
Dwarves - Plastic slayers FALSE



Natfka on Faeit 212
Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
I can confirm that Dwarves are indeed due within the next few weeks.
Models Rumours:
Core Troopers won't get a new box. TRUE

Light Armor Infantry Box is Slayers and a second build I couldn't
recognize. They look indeed weird, however the Slayers are more dynamic
than I'd expected them to be. FALSE

Heavy Armor Infantry Box is Hammerers/Ironbreakers dual build. They look
just so much better than their older versions, quite some variation
considering their former lack of such. FALSE

The "War Altar" is a dual build of Throne and Anvil I believe. It wasn't
quite clear, but it seems to be possible to give a "regular" Dwarf King a
toned done version of the Throne. FALSE

The plastic clampack character looks amazing. Simply. Amazing. TOO VAGUE

The Gyrocopter is quite a lot better than the previous one, but not quite
as good as it could have been. But it is a lot bigger, the dwarf isn't
really that much sticking out It blends in nicely with the rest of the army. FALSE

The Tunneling Vehicle looks pretty awkward considering the awesomeness of
the rest of this release. I think the rumoured "big cannon" could be a dual
build with this one, it looks pretty much twice as good as the Tunneling
Machine, especially considering how much potential there was. FALSE

Rules Rumours:
Pretty few that I know about, but here it is:
Playing Style: The playing style will be quite similar to the previous one,
but with a wider variation of possibilities. Ironbreakers will be even
harder to crack open while Hammerers are No-brainers (Dwarves are slow,
but those can hit like a meteorite if they get you!). TOO VAGUE
Cannons are a bit toned down but are still as accurate as always. I think
there's a decent chance of not having a single misfired shot within
multiple games. FALSE



GDD over at Chaos-Dwarfs

Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
Hello! I got some potential leaks from the same guy that leaked the DE units. This is regarding the GW vanilla Dwarfs. Sorry if this is a duplicate thread.

QUOTE

OrcCrusher / Tunneler (combo kit) FALSE
Runic Anvil / War Altar (combo box) FALSE
Gyrocopter Squadron Box TRUE
Thunderers / Crossbowmen / Dwarf Warriors Box (10) FALSE
Hammerers / Ironbreaker Box FALSE
Slayers / Brotherhood of Grimmir Box FALSE
Longbeards / Rangers Box FALSE

- There will be more magic activity and movement than before (something everybody expect). FALSE
- The runes system is going to be like now but with some changes in the "laws". Some of them are going to reduce their point cost and there will be less options. Basically are going to be created magic items, some people speak about add runes into already existing magic items from rulebook... with some blacksmith skill... FALSE
- Runelords will have some changes, they will have innate spells (like empire warrior priests). And the anvil will make those spells stronger. FALSE
- Rune combos in warmachines are going to suffer nerfs. There will be a cost point reduction but also the destruction capacity will be decreased (except for the organ cannon, that will become a nightmare...) FALSE
- Points cost reduction in infantry. PARTLY TRUE
- They speak about robot/rock golems similars to Blackrock Deeps in world of warcraft. FALSE



Indrazor

Harry's Fantasy Recap
Dwarves - New special unit ... dwarf contraptions (See below) FALSE
Dwarves - People have heard about those robotic contraptions in WoW. Those nice machines the dwarves there build to help them defend and mine. Picture that and place that on a large base in plastic for Warhammer as the new special unit. FALSE



Larry Vela aka Big Red
Dwarf Rumors - Jan 2014
Dwarfs - February (I'd bet on February 8th) TRUE

The Kits:

Plastic Tunneling Vehicle FALSE
Plastic infantry heavy armor unit kit (dual-build) TRUE
Plastic infantry light armor unit kit (dual-build) FALSE

Plastic War Altar FALSE
Plastic New VERY large gun/cannon FALSE
Plastic Beefier Gyrocopter TRUE

Clampack Lord PARTLY TRUE

Dwarf and Wood Elf - Nov 2013
Dwarfs
February Release DUPLICATE
New Plastic Lord DUPLICATE
New Grudgethrower FALSE
New Trollslayers FALSE
New Hammerers TRUE
New Ironbreakers TRUE
More...
"Big Kit" is the Orc Crusher - a large machine. FALSE



Lord Dan

Harry's Fantasy Recap
Dwarves - Not in 2012 TRUE
Dwarves - Plastic slayers FALSE



Maelström
Dwarf Rumors - Oct 2013
Dwarfs are due in "early 2014"(corroborating other sources saying March 2014) TRUE
Dwarfs news, next army to make their appearance could include:
OrcCrusher / Tunneler (combo kit) FALSE
Runic Anvil / War Altar (combo box) FALSE
Gyrocopter Squadron Box TRUE
Thunderers / Crossbowmen / Dwarf Warriors Box (10) FALSE
Hammerers / Ironbreaker Box FALSE
Matadors??? / Brotherhood of Grimmir Box FALSE
Longbeards / Rangers Box FALSE



Mirbeau

Harry's Fantasy Recap
Dwarves - 2013 has been suggested. FALSE
Dwarves - Huge Catapault. Plastic stone thrower. FALSE



necronspurs2012
Dwarf / Website Rumors - Jan 2014
Dwarfs are set to get a heavy release in the first two weeks of february. The first week is the codex and all redos of metal/finecast kits along with troops units. The second week will bring new kits and the larger ones like warmachines and characters. FALSE

Dwarf slayers with get a new plastic kit and a new siege engine will be released aswell FALSE



Nocculum

Harry's Fantasy Recap
Dwarves - Dwarf Lord on throne will not be special character only. FALSE



Zakusmaximus on Warseer
Warhammer Fantasy Rumors - Sept 2012
1- Monster creature... We know as the mechanical golem thing FALSE
2- Dwarf casters of sorts FALSE
3- They will get ruins that modify current magical items in the Main rule book i.e. adding first strike to a sword that already gives +2 strength etc. FALSE
4- Some sort of Calvary… My fiend mentioned bear, Ram the guy just smiled at him FALSE


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/10 22:00:01


Post by: pretre


I split Necronspurs one up into this:
Dwarf / Website Rumors - Jan 2014
Dwarfs are set to get a heavy release in the first two weeks of february. TRUE
The first week is the codex and all redos of metal/finecast kits along with troops units. FALSE
The second week will bring new kits and the larger ones like warmachines and characters. FALSE

Dwarf slayers with get a new plastic kit FALSE
and a new siege engine will be released aswell FALSE



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Brutal, brutal update, btw. Thank you again, Avian. I really appreciate the help.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/11 20:37:33


Post by: Avian


No problem.

This release neatly shows what happens when a genuine source is wrong - all the rumour inventors end up being wrong too.

And "kudos" to Naftka for that shamelessly phony one from January. That one reeks from a mile off.

Not having too many hopes for the Wood Elf release in May-ish.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/11 20:45:54


Post by: pretre


Yeah, a lot of the recent rumors all seem to follow this same kind of pattern. I expect one monger to have it right and they are generally the one that no one else copies. Makes me think that all the IG/Knight rumors are BS.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/11 20:55:40


Post by: Avian


Well, we shall see in a couple of weeks.

The totals for GDD aren't updated (he has no more pending), BTW.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/11 20:57:41


Post by: pretre


Updating now.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/13 16:49:08


Post by: Avian


What are your thoughts on the Knight rumours at this point in time? :p


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/13 16:49:32


Post by: pretre


I thought they were BS, but it looks like I may be eating my words.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/14 23:05:43


Post by: pretre


Updated the first of the knight rumors. Yes, I am eating crow.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/14 23:24:49


Post by: Avian


I guess it goes to show that accuracy scores are more reliable than gut feelings. And that was the point of this list, wasn't it?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/15 00:40:51


Post by: lord_blackfang


Indeed. GW seems to be changing direction so fast these days that we simply can't rely on gut feelings (which are ultimately extrapolated from precedents.)

And 40k Radio already has a new serving of "unlikely" rumours for us, too.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/15 13:02:19


Post by: Avian


Looking through the list, I have a couple of suggestions going forward:

1)
When a rumour has a lot of "well duh!" elements talking about the same thing, they should more often be combined. I see that Larry Vela got 6 TRUE out of essentially saying the new Knight would look like a larger version of the Epic model. That could have been condensed into just one item.
Similarly, rumours that are subjective opinions about a model's appearance shouldn't be a rumour to begin with. Ex: "new Dwarf models look amazing"


2)
When a rumour is that something remains as-is, and it does, that should be listed as ALREADY TRUE and not be worth anything either way. Like how people got a TRUE for saying Spearelves would be Core in the High Elf book.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/17 17:15:15


Post by: pretre


I can definitely dig that. Hit me up with any suggested updates and I'll pop them through.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/17 17:53:49


Post by: Avian


These stick out:


Earlybird

High Elf Rumors - April 2013
Core :
Spearmen ALREADY TRUE
Archers ALREADY TRUE
Lothern Sea Guard ALREADY TRUE
Silver Helms TRUE
Tiranoc Chariot FALSE
Shadow Warriors FALSE

Special :
Ellyrian Reavers FALSE
Chrace Chariot ALREADY TRUE
White Lions ALREADY TRUE
Dragon Princes (Horse) ALREADY TRUE
Great Eagles FALSE
Swordmasters ALREADY TRUE
Bolt Thrower FALSE

Rare :
Dragon Princes (monstruous) FALSE
Phoenix Guard FALSE
Phoenix TRUE
Saphery Chariot FALSE



Larry Vela aka Big Red

Knight Loadout - Feb 2014
via Larry Vela over on bols ***
Knight Kit
Model description TRUE
(Wraithknight sized (bulkier). Slightly hunched Imperial appearance. Head in chest. Arm weapons mounted underslung from shoulders like the Reaver. Comes with multiple arm weapons (you can mount 2) )
a) Multi-barreled "gatling" styled weapon FALSE
b) "Grav" styled weapon FALSE
c) "Nova-cannon" styled weapon FALSE
d) Giant close combat weapon TRUE


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/17 18:02:21


Post by: pretre


Updating now. I think that's a good tact to take though.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Put in a definition for Already True.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/02/28 18:44:44


Post by: pretre


Natfka turning over a new leaf?

"Rumor Policy
Also there are some new tighter rumor restrictions, as far as what I am going to post. This is based off the impact and negativity that it may inspire. The are some tighter restrictions as well concerning leaks, but I will handle those on my end of the stick.

There has been no GW letter sent here, these changes have been overdue, to improve the site and the time readers spend here. In regards to GW, my email address is always open to them with the same confidence that readers have should there be conflicts. "


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/10 16:31:17


Post by: pretre


Big update:


40kradio
T 4
F 2
PT 1

Natfka
T 5
F 19
PT 1

Vela
T 8
F 17

Lion275
T 3
F 1

Stickmonkey
T 5
F 3

Tim the Thief
F 1
PT 3


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Updated to allow April or March to be accurate for IG.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/10 20:45:54


Post by: Avian


Lion275 is one of the 40K Radio guys.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/10 20:51:20


Post by: pretre


Oh really? Dammit. Now I have to combine them.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/12 10:31:16


Post by: Avian


It looks like the first post has been reset to some earlier version ...


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/12 14:49:56


Post by: pretre


Avian wrote:
It looks like the first post has been reset to some earlier version ...

Crap. Any idea what's missing? I'll try to track down a backup version.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Okay, I think I've got it. I've had computer troubles and must have accidentally copied from the backup file. Let me know if you find any issues.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/12 15:23:10


Post by: Redemption


40k Radio wrote:Apr – Imperial Guard FALSE

Why's that false (already)? Seems they will be released April:
Spoiler:



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/12 15:28:17


Post by: pretre


Ha, as I listed in the previous post, I had a little hiccup. I was giving credit for April but missed one. Thank you!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/12 22:49:55


Post by: pizzaguardian


Where is my false on


Fantasy Release - Sept 2013
I was told that there was no release in october. Although it might be my source falling from grace. PENDING

pretre?

I want my thing to be accurate


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/13 00:12:01


Post by: pretre


I will update tomorrow! Thanks.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/13 15:44:43


Post by: pretre


updated!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/13 15:49:37


Post by: kronk


Avian wrote:
Lion275 is one of the 40K Radio guys.


Really? Which one? Romeo, Ric or Kyle? That's all of the 40k radio guys there are.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/15 21:16:36


Post by: Avian


Ric, I believe.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/28 19:52:48


Post by: pretre


Updates!

4chan
2F

Darnok
1T

Natkfa
10T
5F
1PT

Vela
1F

necronspurs2012
1T

Stickmonkey
1F


Also...

Who wrote the Dwarf AB? (Alebelly_cragfist said Vetock)


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/28 22:20:44


Post by: Avian


I don't think it says, I think it's just "GW Design Team" these days.


Looking at the most recent stuff, should there perhaps be a closeness limit for rumours? I see Natfka getting credit for people sending him stuff from the WDW that's up for release a few days later. Should that perhaps be news rather than rumours, or is that the sort of behaviour that should be encouraged?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/28 23:36:15


Post by: pretre


Hmm good call. Generally I give credit until the first scan / leaked pic comes out. Thoughts?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/29 16:20:14


Post by: Sinful Hero


I think Natfka needs all the help he can get.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/30 10:40:08


Post by: Breotan


 pretre wrote:
Hmm good call. Generally I give credit until the first scan / leaked pic comes out. Thoughts?
Given the way things are being done now at GW, I'd suggest a 30 day cut-off. If your rumor is less than 30 days out from WDW "proof" then it shouldn't be counted. This way we can discern legitimate rumor mongering from "look what accidentally shipped early?"



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/31 16:59:30


Post by: pretre


 Breotan wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Hmm good call. Generally I give credit until the first scan / leaked pic comes out. Thoughts?
Given the way things are being done now at GW, I'd suggest a 30 day cut-off. If your rumor is less than 30 days out from WDW "proof" then it shouldn't be counted. This way we can discern legitimate rumor mongering from "look what accidentally shipped early?"


Hmm. I don't think that's so bad, but a lot of our stuff is early leaks. Anyone else want to chip in?

Minor updates to the first post.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/31 17:12:05


Post by: Sinful Hero


Sometimes it's a bald faced lie that "something shipped early". Keep it the way it is now- they're rumors until pictures come out. It's the simplest.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/03/31 17:13:04


Post by: pretre


 Sinful Hero wrote:
Sometimes it's a bald faced lie that "something shipped early". Keep it the way it is now- they're rumors until pictures come out. It's the simplest.

Fair enough. That does keep us from evaluating 'sources' which is always difficult.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/10 09:03:58


Post by: Avian


These from StrykerSniper I have some objections to:

Inq Rumors - Nov 2013
New Veteran/Stormtrooper boxed set PARTLY TRUE (only builds Stormtroopers)
Kasrkin style armor FALSE (Kasrkin is multi-layered and has fully armoured legs. This is one massive breast plate)
Hellguns, sniper rifles, specials, missle laucher, bolters, shotguns FALSE (it's only two out of six)
Respirator heads, berets, bald, mohawks PARTLY TRUE (only two out of four)
Inquisitor with long cloak and armor FALSE


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/10 14:32:40


Post by: pretre


Okay, I will get him updated. Just FYI, I was out of office for almost a week and will take some time to catch up. If anyone wants to feed new rumors that have come up since last friday, feel free to post here.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/14 14:35:16


Post by: pretre


Added the ridiculous (and long) Vela rumors.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/15 18:13:18


Post by: pretre


Rough day for mongers. (I got ahold of the AM codex):

40kradio
1 F
1 PT

Natfka
39 F
2 PT
15 T

Vela
6 F

Noel at Wargamer
8 F

Tim
3 F
1 T


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/16 12:45:28


Post by: Shandara


Naftka needs stuff that's stickier, that's for sure. Or that wall of his is coated in teflon.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/16 12:54:20


Post by: ductvader


He's still pumping out more Trues than all the other sources combined...solid!

(Talking about that round of updates)


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/16 14:24:04


Post by: pretre


 ductvader wrote:
He's still pumping out more Trues than all the other sources combined...solid!

(Talking about that round of updates)

But his signal to noise ratio is horrible.

15/56 is like 26%. If throw enough darts blindfolded, you're bound to hit the board eventually.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/16 14:43:09


Post by: ductvader


I'm not complaining. I get what I want out of it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/16 14:56:05


Post by: pretre


 ductvader wrote:
I'm not complaining. I get what I want out of it.

I am complaining. I also bring this stuff up on his blog as well.

He's a good aggregator but a horrible source. If he actually filtered out what he posts, he could have a lot better quality but he refuses to.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/16 16:05:15


Post by: ductvader


But...he's such a nice guy.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/16 16:09:59


Post by: pretre


 ductvader wrote:
But...he's such a nice guy.

I'm sure he is. I've never met him, but he seems genuinely nice. That doesn't change the fact that he posts a lot of crap though. It's a simple fix to improve his output; I'd love to see him implement it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/21 16:58:06


Post by: Avian


Heads up!

Krofna wrote:According to my friend, the first wave consists of:

Book 39
Ancient Treeman 50
Araloth Hero 17,5
Magic cards 6

Prices are in Euros.


http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?392690-Wood-Elf-Rumours&p=7133038&viewfull=1#post7133038


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/21 17:14:13


Post by: pretre


Got it. Thanks!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I'm personally looking forward to 7th edition not releasing this year because it'll be a busy couple days of updating for me.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/21 21:35:09


Post by: Avian


Well, that didn't take long at all!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/21 21:35:37


Post by: pretre


Which one? The WE rumors?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/21 21:42:43


Post by: Avian


The ones from my previous post, yes.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/21 21:45:40


Post by: pretre


Yep, he scraped right under the deadline.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/21 22:11:21


Post by: Avian


These days, when a rumourmonger says he has a "source", he means "someone who can get me WDW a couple of days early".


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/22 15:15:00


Post by: pretre


lol totally.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/25 06:09:09


Post by: Avian


Working on the Wood Elf ones. It's another one of those cases where nobody had a clue before they could read WDW. I notice a pattern.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/25 15:20:47


Post by: pretre


Avian wrote:
Working on the Wood Elf ones. It's another one of those cases where nobody had a clue before they could read WDW. I notice a pattern.

Yep. Let me know what you get. I'm never very good at fantasy.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/25 20:26:22


Post by: Breotan


Avian wrote:
...nobody had a clue before they could read WDW. I notice a pattern.
Which is why I was pushing for a 30-day cutoff to count a rumor as true. Real rumor mongers used to have info far earlier and the new ones almost never do.



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/28 14:00:16


Post by: Gorlack


Two years ago on pg. 2 of this thread I posted a very skeptical post about this thread and it's purpose. But ever since that I have found myself coming back and checking it quite often when a new rumor popped up, so I would like to thank you Pretre (see, I spelled it correctly ) for the great work over the years and ask where I can sign the "sticky this thread" petition?

Cheers to another two years of rumor tracking


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/28 14:43:19


Post by: pretre


 Gorlack wrote:
Two years ago on pg. 2 of this thread I posted a very skeptical post about this thread and it's purpose. But ever since that I have found myself coming back and checking it quite often when a new rumor popped up, so I would like to thank you Pretre (see, I spelled it correctly ) for the great work over the years and ask where I can sign the "sticky this thread" petition?

Cheers to another two years of rumor tracking

Two years? Geeze, I need to find a hobby.

Thanks for the vote of confidence though. We don't have a sticky petition thread and last I heard we were turned down because we get more traffic by not being sticky. Just have to keep bumping.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 16:58:10


Post by: pretre



UPDATE:
We have no standardized the titles for each rumor set to make it easier to search things out. Current used tags are spoilered here:
Spoiler:

40k Rule Rumors
40k Supplement Rumors
6th Edition Rumors
7th Edition Rumors
9th Edition Fantasy Rumors
Adeptus Mechanicus Rumors
Apocalypse Rumors
Black Templar Rumors
Blood Angel Rumors
Blood Bowl Rumors
Bret Rumors
Chaos Marine Rumors
Daemons Rumors
Dark Angel Rumors
Digital Release Rumors
Dwarf Rumors
Eldar Rumors
Epic Rumors
Expansion Rumors
Fantasy Rule Rumors
Fantasy Starter Rumors
Fantasy Supplement Rumors
FAQ Rumors
Finecast Rumors
Flyer Rumors
Forgeworld rumors
Fortification Rumors
Grey Knight Rumors
GW Army Builder Rumors
GW General Rumors
GW Site Rumors
High Elf Rumors
Hobbit Rumors
Horus Heresy Rumors
IG Rumors
Inquisition Rumors
Knight Rumors
Lizardman Rumors
Necron Rumors
Ork Rumors
Paint Rumors
Release Schedule Rumors
Sister of Battle Rumors
Space Marines Rumors
Space Wolf Rumors
Specialist Rumors
Starter Set Rumors
GW Store Rumors
Tau Rumors
Thunderhawk Rumors
Tyranid Rumors
Web Page Rumors
White Dwarf Rumors
WOC Rumors
Wood Elf Rumors




Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, big update on rumors.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 18:03:56


Post by: Sinful Hero


I think it's pretty sad that the Thunderhawk has an entire tag to itself...


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 18:05:29


Post by: pretre


 Sinful Hero wrote:
I think it's pretty sad that the Thunderhawk has an entire tag to itself...

Couldn't think of a better place to put it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 18:08:16


Post by: Sinful Hero


I think it's that there are so many rumors just for the Thunderhawk that you can't lump it in with Forgeworld or Space Marines.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 18:11:52


Post by: pretre


 Sinful Hero wrote:
I think it's that there are so many rumors just for the Thunderhawk that you can't lump it in with Forgeworld or Space Marines.

Exactly. Not to mention the rumor is generally a GW direct Thunderhawk, etc.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 19:23:10


Post by: Avian


40kradio

Release Schedule - Oct 2013
May – Wood Elves TRUE



75hastings69

Release Schedule - May 2013
I don't think I actually mentioned WE, Bret, O&G or Beastmen army "books"
updates and models yes, books ..... hmm, after 9th ed hits???? PENDING

Fantasy Schedule - March 2013
WE TRUE

Fantasy Rumors - July 2012
Plastic WE Spell Singer FALSE
Plastic WE Lord PARTLY TRUE

Harry's Fantasy Recap - July 2012
WE - There are rumours of a BIG treeman. TRUE



Antipathy

Fantasy Rumor Thread - August 2012
Not so much a packmaster, but the new Alter Kindred takes on the form of an animal/nature and becomes some form of monstrous beast/infantry, apparently. FALSE
The fluff being they give themselves over to the forest, and take on its aspects, sort of like miniature orions, rather than being a shapeshifter atypical druid. FALSE
Playtested versions have seen "proxied" varghulfs with extremely fast movement, so that may mean that they can take on an aerial aspect that gives them fly. FALSE
As for the monstrous cav, I am lead to believe that wild riders current iteration is still viable in the rules. FALSE
Chariots meanwhile, I have heard absolutely nothing about, other than suggestions of an altar type of unit acting like a mortis engine with its "spirit host", but that has been dismissed by my sources as pure wishlisting. FALSE

Fantasy Rumors Thread - Aug 13 2012
- Plastic Dragon (Spellweaver/Highborn option) FALSE
- Plastic Set for Eternal Guard equipped with Saearath - presuming 10 to a set like High Elven Elites, including full command. TRUE
- Wild Riders, they're becoming "larger" and "much deadlier", including vine/ivy wreathed horns and "immense mounts" - matching the Orion, Vaults of Winter novel description FALSE
- Scouts become their own unit choice TRUE



Darnok (from Warseer)

Harry's Fantasy Recap
WE - The treeman, however was said to be on the new monster base and about as tall as the Ogre Thundertusk's banner, and that it stylewise is more living brushwood-forest thingy than an actual anthromorphic tree. PARTLY TRUE



Earlybird

Fantasy Rumor Thread - August 2012
WE -Book for spring 2014 TRUE
WE -Chariot is back FALSE
WE -Packmaster with orion hounds or great bear FALSE
WE -A "fairy" unit working a bit like the Banshee FALSE
WE - Stags as mounts for Kurnous cavalry TRUE
WE -Skaw the falconer is back with new mini PARTLY TRUE



Natfka on Faeit 212

Release Schedule - Nov 2013
Wood Elves TRUE



ganon

Asrai - Naeith the Prophetess back in next armybook FALSE
Asrai - Additional lores available TRUE
Asrai - Skaw will be a SC, choose Great Eagles as Specials. FALSE



Harry from Warseer

Harry's Fantasy Recap
WE - There are rumours of a BIG treeman. TRUE




Larry Vela aka Big Red

Release Schedule - Jan 2014
May - Wood Elves TRUE

Release Schedule - Dec 2013
Wood Elves (Q2) DUPLICATE

Release Schedule - Nov 2013
Q2-14: Wood Elves, Orks DUPLICATE

Dwarf and Wood Elf - Nov 2013
Wood Elves
May Release DUPLICATE
The final army book of 8th Edition PENDING
New Glade Guard FALSE
New Way Watchers FALSE
New War Dancers FALSE
New Dryads FALSE
New Treemen TRUE
New War Eagles FALSE
New units... TOO VAGUE



Maelström

Wood Elf Rumors - Oct 2013
Ajota specified Wood Elves are in "april/may". TRUE

Wood Elves Rules

Army wide ASF ( elves only ) TRUE
- Hawkeye ( only elves , reroll one to hit, single shots) FALSE
- Spirit of the Forest ( unstable magical attacks, hatred , 5 + ward save , harmony with the forest ) FALSE
- Elven Bow ( f4 , rapid fire , extra row ) FALSE
- Saearath ( cc weapon , +1 Strength , + 1 SEspecial , spears ) FALSE
- Explorers / Ambushers ( NDT : not what it is ) FALSE

Forest Guard : Elvish Bow , Hawkeye FALSE
Eternal Guard : f4 , Saearath , L8 FALSE
Light Knights : same FALSE
Driades : forms of combat . FALSE
Riders Halcon : Elven Bow , Hawk Eye , launches FALSE
Kournous Riders : Spirit of the forest, Saearath , L8 , F4 , A2 ( idk if directly go deer) ALREADY TRUE
Arboreal : Spirit of the forest , as FALSE
Banshees : Spirit of the forest, Lamento ( breath attack ) , terror . FALSE
Eagle Claws : same FALSE
Wardancer : same , except for some changes that do not know . TOO VAGUE
Forest : Forest Spirit , Bow Elvish . FALSE
Men Tree: Like I ALREADY TRUE
Millennial choleric : Hate Eternal , and nose to more FALSE

Wood Elves Miniatures (some translation issues)

Man Megacaja Tree (Giant) / Durtu / Millennium cashflow TRUE
- Great Dragon Box Forest / Lord of the Forest / Sisters of Twilight FALSE
- Safety in Deer Forest Kournous TRUE
- Safety Kournous Riders (apparently nothing to do with the look of today, more fey and spiritual) FALSE
- Safety Wardancer / Forest FALSE
- Riders Box Falcon / Eagle Claws FALSE
- Safety Eternal Guard / Forest Banshees PARTLY TRUE
- Blister Cantor of Trees FALSE
- Blister Lord of Forests FALSE
- Blister Skaw the Falconer PARTLY TRUE



necronspurs2012

Release List - Jan 2014
Wood Elves TRUE



Scoopdeta

Harry's Fantasy Recap
WE - There are rumours of Wood Elves in 2013 Early to mid 2013 FALSE
WE - A lot of miniature designs for new woodies already created and approved TOO VAGUE
WE - TreeKin, Treemen and wardancers/warhawks. FALSE
WE - A Cavalry unit tha packed some punch but no specifics. TOO VAGUE



Stickmonkey

Wood Elves - July 2013
via Stickmonkey on Bols Lounge
Wood Elves have a massive update coming. And they will be fine in the current and next edition with it.
I expect them late spring 2014. TRUE
Some of what Ive heard is:
Still a major guerrilla tactics army. Skirmishers are still prevalent. FALSE
New giant Treekin dual unit. TRUE
New Stag Monstrous Cavalry unit. TRUE
Best archers in the game. ALREADY TRUE
Dryads having abilities to manipulate enemy unit structure. FALSE
New mpp wild rider kit TRUE
New mpp wardancer/waywatcher kit FALSE
Wardancers causing rank bonus to work against enemy. FALSE
New hawkriders kit. FALSE
WE wizards (spellsingers) have spells that manipulate environment, including making a new grove of trees and one causing an enemy unit to enter combat with the ground/terrain FALSE
WE have significant benefits within woods both stationary and moving. TRUE
Tree units able to start hidden in wooded terrain. FALSE


Strategos

Harry's Fantasy Recap
WE - Forest Dragon FALSE



Tim the Thief

Release Schedule - Nov 2013
April - Wood Elves & new GW Page/Shop TRUE

Release Schedule
Oktober: Wood Elves FALSE


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 19:38:00


Post by: pretre


Nicely done. Updating now.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Maelstrom got destroyed.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 20:27:11


Post by: Avian


That's what you get when you decide to randomly make up a pile of stuff instead of making some educated guesses.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I'd also like to repeat my suggestion that things posted the same week as something comes out doesn't count as rumours. There's a guy over on Warseer that got hold of the WE army book and is answering people's questions. Surely counting that 1) isn't very meaningful, and 2) would lead to a whole lot of work collecting everything.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 21:08:57


Post by: pretre


Yeah, that's a bit close. If I already added him let me know and I'll pull him off.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/29 22:06:46


Post by: Sinful Hero


Sorry to be nitpicky here, but what if someone sees the codex several months out and owns up to it? Are they rumors, or not? What if someone gets one the week before, and says they're rumors?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 08:29:00


Post by: Avian


If you practice a strict one-week limit, then it doesn't matter.

If you are checking to see whether someone tells the truth or not, it doesn't make any sense to assume that they are telling the truth about the source.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 13:02:25


Post by: Sinful Hero


A strict seven day cutoff? Is that really the best solution? If someone gets a copy 8 days out, they get a couple trues, but at the stroke of midnight don't get anything at all? I'm just not sure that's the best way to go about it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 14:55:24


Post by: pretre


 Sinful Hero wrote:
A strict seven day cutoff? Is that really the best solution? If someone gets a copy 8 days out, they get a couple trues, but at the stroke of midnight don't get anything at all? I'm just not sure that's the best way to go about it.

I think we have to play it by ear a little bit. If it is clear that everything has been released already (as with the WE), I stop giving credit.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 15:01:40


Post by: Sinful Hero


That seems to be a wiser choice. Of course if someone is reading from a book or magazine, is it really a rumor? They're really just parroting information early.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 15:08:55


Post by: pretre


 Sinful Hero wrote:
That seems to be a wiser choice. Of course if someone is reading from a book or magazine, is it really a rumor? They're really just parroting information early.
But they're parroting information to us early so that we have access to something we wouldn't normally.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 15:18:34


Post by: Sinful Hero


 pretre wrote:
 Sinful Hero wrote:
That seems to be a wiser choice. Of course if someone is reading from a book or magazine, is it really a rumor? They're really just parroting information early.
But they're parroting information to us early so that we have access to something we wouldn't normally.

Isn't three days still early?
(Btw, no intention of ill will here)


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 15:24:38


Post by: pretre


Yep. It is why I'm not going with a hard date but winging it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 18:41:19


Post by: Avian


In that case I'd delete the ones by Paladin, since he's just reading from WD.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 18:42:21


Post by: pretre


Is that the WD? His rumor says the codex.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/04/30 22:39:29


Post by: Avian


Sorry, working from memory. Army book it is.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/08 15:35:05


Post by: pretre


Just an FYI that I will be cutting back significantly on my dakka time beyond updating this thread and swap shop. The tone of most threads just puts me off 40k and I'd rather avoid that.

So, if you spot a rumor in a thread that I don't catch, please post here with a link so I can add it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/08 15:48:56


Post by: Sinful Hero


I thnk it's mostly angst over a new edition so soon. Things will settle down again a few weeks after it's out. I remember things being toxic around here when 6th came out, as I assume you do too.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/08 15:49:50


Post by: pretre


 Sinful Hero wrote:
I thnk it's mostly angst over a new edition so soon. Things will settle down again a few weeks after it's out. I remember things being toxic around here when 6th came out, as I assume you do too.

Yep. And that's why I am avoiding it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/09 05:05:57


Post by: MasterSlowPoke


You gave Stickmonkey a true for a Treekin dual kit - Treekin are different from Tree Men.

He might be referring to oft-rumored Summer of Treekin in a few years, though.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/09 09:58:39


Post by: Avian


Well, he said "Giant Treekin", which is pretty much what a Treeman is. I think that's close enough.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/09 14:07:00


Post by: pretre


Avian wrote:
Well, he said "Giant Treekin", which is pretty much what a Treeman is. I think that's close enough.

That's what my thinking was. I'm not a big fantasy player though, so I rely on you guys to keep me straight.


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Natfka:
Space Wolf Rumors / Ork Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
It's going to be the greenskins, then Space Wolves. The Sons of Russ will be getting their own flier, and it's sitting in the warehouses right now.

Krazynadechukr
7th Edition Rumors - May 2014
496 pages. That is the new page count. Or so I'm told.
New Psychic card pack 7 gbps
new templates 11 gbps....



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Starter Set Rumors / Blood Angel Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
There will be a Scenery Set suitable for the starter Set.

Limited Starter Set included Multi Part Sanguinary Priest.

Dark Eldar Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
the Haemonculi will be a big focus of the new book as the Wraiths were with the Eldar. There is a possibility of the models being a WD release initially. The Wrack kit doubles as a entirely new unit that focuses on chemical weapons.

The Bane have even more exaggerated proportions that looks like it can rip a Dreadnought to shreads bare handed, very cool.

The following new Haemonculi will be unleashed upon us all:

1) "Bane" type unit. Bigger than a Grotesque but smaller than a Talos.
May be a new character.
2) New Plastic Wracks (5 per box, dual kit). Includes all weapon upgrades.
3) New Plastic Grotesques (3 per box). Includes all weapon upgrades.
4) Plastic Clampack Haemonculus.


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Starter Set Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Blood Angels
-Captain with Jump Pack
-Tactical Squad (10)
-Assault Squad (5)
-Terminator Squad (5)
-Cybot with Multi Melta and Autocannon
-Sangunary Priest (with Corbulo option)

Orkz
-Ork Boss
-Wyrdboy
-Balla Boyz Mob (10)
-Moscha Boyz Mob (10)
-Meganobz Mob (5)
-Kommando Mob (5)


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Reaper Man 2020 - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Spoiler:

GW General Rumors - May 2014
I have had it confirmed more by what was not said and a slip up by a GW employee who will remain nameless that there will be no Games Day this year. Has anyone else heard more on this, the european ones certainly aren't going ahead.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/12 15:13:21


Post by: pretre


Mark Fritts - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Spoiler:

7th Edition Rumors - May 2014
So, last night someone from The Overlords Podcast group on Facebook posted these tidbits. Hopefully they don't mind if they're posted elsewhere. There's some interesting things to chew on here.

-- So Guys I heard from a pretty reliable source that got to sit down with the book for a few minutes here is what I can remember from what was said.

1. 4ed consolidate in to combat is in
2. If you fail to cast a power you can't cast it the rest of the game
3. Every unit including vehicles will now score
4. Unbound armies may not contest objectives
5. Lords of war are in
6. Escalation and stronghold remaine as they are now
7. Vehicles will be harder to kill the chart changes once more.
8. The book will come out in 3 options Art like warhammer visions, Fluff book, and one that only contains rules and that one is about as think as the current SM book.
9.difficult terrain is just -2 inches
10. Wound allocation has changed a bit.not super clear as to how.
11. D-weapons toned down but he was unclear as what that meant so from the sounds of it they will still be super ugly. --


Waiting on approval to join the group so I can get a real name. Edit: Got it.


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Anyone catch any others from this weekend?


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Vela

Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014
Late May - Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition
Look for a 2 week release window with the majority of releases on week 1 (May 24th).
Look for all the standard stuff we've grown to expect like the rulebook, templates, psychic cards, mission cards, etc. Week 2 will have a teensy amount of followup products.

June - Orks
This is described as a beefy 3-week release window like we saw with Astra Militarum. Look for the Codex and at least 5 new kits (including both new double and triple combo kits, and clampack HQs), and psychic cards. There will be at least 3 new units introduced and a lot of old Orks models are going away forever as the codex shifts to almost all plastic in the wake of the new releases.

This takes us deep into the June, and look to round out the month with a 1 week break from 40K. could be WFB, Hobbit, or even Citadel hobby stuff.

Starter Set Rumors - May 2014
Blood Angels (suitably bedazzled)
- Brother-Captain w/JumpPack
- Tactical Squad (10)
- Assault Squad (5)
- Terminator Squad (5)
- Dreadnaught with Autocannon and Multi Melta (?)

- Limited Edition: Sanguinary Priest

Orks
- Warboss
- Weirdboy
- Shoota Boyz Mob (10 or 20, conflicting reports)
- Slugga Boyz Mob (10 or 20, conflicting reports)
- Kommandoz Mob (5)
- Mega-nobz Mob (5)


Extras
- "Orkified" Aegis Defense Line (no gun)
- Misc. small Objectives
Don't be surprised to see the starter paint set change to Blood Angels.


Vague Stuff from Natfka
Blood Angels Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Be prepared for the Blood Angels update, its closing fast upon the release date. A few models have been reworked, use of vehicles, and weapons previously not in the codex will be getting added to the codex. We should be having a few of the new BA appearing before the codex is released.




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Natfka:
7th Edition Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
These are in Australian prices
Standard edition 140
Collectors Edition 360
Physhic Cards 16
Objective Tokens 12


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/12 18:43:26


Post by: Sinful Hero


"Vague garbage from Naftka". Not even trying to hide your dislike of Naftka anymore are you? It is so vague as to be useless, but garbage seems a little harsh.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/12 18:55:07


Post by: pretre


I don't dislike Natfka, but I dislike his methods. I updated it to 'stuff' instead.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/12 19:10:24


Post by: Sinful Hero


Granted, is it even worth adding? Blood Angels are going to be updated sometime! No date, nothing specific at all. Jus the usual "of course" things like a new unit, new weapons being added, and a cryptic "we'll see models before the codex is released!". Not trying to be combative, but go ahead and add me to the rumor tracker- Dark Eldar will eventually be updated, with new units, some units in plastic, and new weapon options!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/12 19:16:03


Post by: pretre


 Sinful Hero wrote:
Granted, is it even worth adding? Blood Angels are going to be updated sometime! No date, nothing specific at all. Jus the usual "of course" things like a new unit, new weapons being added, and a cryptic "we'll see models before the codex is released!". Not trying to be combative, but go ahead and add me to the rumor tracker- Dark Eldar will eventually be updated, with new units, some units in plastic, and new weapon options!

We track 'Too Vague' as well, so it is important to keep track of.


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Larry Vela
7th Edition Rumors - May 2014
Warhammer 7th Edition: Price: roughly $80

Edition is presented in a new format, 3 hardcover books in a slipcover. Pagecount of all three is about 450 pages in total:

The Rulebook: @200 pages, only rules

The Grimdark: @128 pages - Fluff and history of the Warhammer universe

The Hobby: @114 pages - Full miniatures and hobby book. All splash pics, and intro to the hobby stuff.


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Kevin Rogers (slaede) from Daemons40k - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Spoiler:

I spoke with my FLGS guy who talked to the GW rep this morning. Not all of my questions were answered, but here is what I heard that is not something already all over the internet. This assumes the GW rep had his facts straight, and the FLGS guy relayed them correctly via the game of telephone.


Battle Brothers

Eldar/DE
Chaos/Daemons
All Imperium

All others were convenience, desperate or apocalypse.

No answer as to whether you can join units of battle brothers.

Psychic Phase

Roll a D6 and add the total mastery levels of all your psykers. You get that many power dice and your opponent gets that many DTW dice.

To cast a power, you need to roll a 4+ for every warp charge of the power you're using. So warp charge 2 = two 4+, meaning you'd need 4 power dice to have an average shot.

Your opponent dispels the power with a roll of a 6 on their dice. So the more dice they have, the more shots they get at rolling that 6 to cancel out that critical power. I was told that the mastery level of the psyker dispelling the power lowers the roll needed to dispel it. So a ML2 psyker dispels on a 5+, ML3 on a 4+. etc...

That is what I was told.

That seems wrong to me because Fateweaver, Eldrad and Ahriman could dispel anything on a 3+. More likely, I would think you compare mastery levels between the casting psyker and the dispelling psyker, and apply a bonus that way. This is conjecture. What I wrote above is what I was told.

What I also don't know is if there is a dice limit a psyker can use to cast or dispel a power based on their mastery level. I also don't know if you need two 6's to dispel a ML2 power. I assume you do.

You would figure Adamantium Will would give you +1 to DTW for powers cast at a unit with that rule.

Jink Save

Jink is a 4+, however it is no longer always on. You must declare a jink to claim it, and if you do so, it's snapshots only in the next phase.

Sweeping Advance

Unchanged. You do not consolidate into a new combat.

And that's all I got that's new! So you can go runtelldat.



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/13 11:45:16


Post by: Avian


Text from WDW confirms three books and no new starter set.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/13 14:17:24


Post by: pretre


Avian wrote:
Text from WDW confirms three books and no new starter set.

Linky?


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Nm, I found it.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DIAxx9Ez-wY/U3Hz_24A7yI/AAAAAAAAEEE/5Plk421PZ9o/s1600/10259818_10152490851994954_7364505389870471348_n.jpg


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40kradio 2T
ClockworkZio 2F
Natfka 3F 3T
krazynadechukr 4F
Vela 3T 4F
Lords of Wargaming 1T


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Natfka 2F 1PT


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Natfka
Blood Angel Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
-Clam Pack Captain in a 2nd Edition Golden Armor Design, armed with Combi-Melter
-Box with all options for the Predator (Baal, Detructor and Annihilator, new Melta weapon in Turret option)
-Honour Guard and Blood Brothers Multi Box

Blood Brothers have survived as members of the Death Company and turned back to normal Astartes, they are like Vanguard Veterans but more "BA-like" and with different weapon options.



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Just caught the Starter Set thing in the lower right corner of one of those pages. Yikes. That's a lot of falses.


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I think I'll leave them for now though since several say September and it is possible they would update DV and then later release a new one in Sept. If I update them now, Vela and Natfka get about 20 Falses each though.

I did get Natfka for Beachhead Stygia since that indicated simultaneous. 7F


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/14 14:52:21


Post by: pretre


40kradio 1T
Clockwork Zion 2F 1T 2PT
Natfka 5T 12F 2PT
Krazynadechukr 1T
Vela 2T 1PT 3F
Lords of Wargaming 1T
Mark Fritts 5T


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Natfka
Starter Set Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
The re-release of Dark Vengeance with the new Rulebook is only temporary


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/14 18:48:46


Post by: Avian


Yeah, it's only going to last another four years...


I'd just put the starter set ones down as false. If by some miracle GW goes back on what they said then they can always be switched back.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/14 18:52:50


Post by: pretre


I'm thinking that I will give it until the end of the year. Since we see the boxes release a bit after pretty regularly.


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Mark Fritts
7th Edition Rumors - May 2014
One more little rumor tidbit I heard from the same source is FMC's may no longer assault the turn they come down from flight.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/16 15:28:07


Post by: pretre


Natfka
Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
LATE MAY
40k 7th Edition

EARLY-MID JUNE
Orks

LATE JUNE
Ork Theme Apocalypse Supplement

EARLY-MID JULY
Bretons

LATE JULY
Chaos Space Marines Sets and Supplement

EARLY AUGUST
40k New Starter Set

MID-LATE AUGUST
Blood Angels

EARLY SEPTEMBER
Armageddon Apocalypse Supplement

MID SEPTEMBER
Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition

LATE SEPTEMBER - EARLY OCTOBER
Orcs and Goblins

MID OCTOBER
Fantasy Starter Set


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Release Schedule Rumors
via Stickmonkey on Faeit 212
My sources are almost lock step with the schedule youve posted. Beyond that they say major releases for the coming year are (obviously with other smaller releases in between with the new pacing):
LATE MAY
40k 7th Edition

EARLY-MID JUNE
Orks

LATE JUNE
Ork Theme Apocalypse Supplement

EARLY-MID JULY
Bretons

LATE JULY
Chaos Space Marines Sets and Supplement

EARLY AUGUST
40k New Starter Set

MID-LATE AUGUST
Blood Angels

EARLY SEPTEMBER
Armageddon Apocalypse Supplement

MID SEPTEMBER
Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition

LATE SEPTEMBER - EARLY OCTOBER
Orcs and Goblins

MID OCTOBER
Fantasy Starter Set
Oct-nov - dark eldar
Nov-dec - hobbit (which ive heard will end additional development by May 2015, and support/releases for it will last 1 year past that), new scenery for 40k, including a crashed/destroyed land raider set piece, and the long awaited xenos scenery rumored to include a bunker each for eldar, orks, and tau. Each about the size of the small wall of martyrs bunker)
Dec-jan - Space Wolves, a Battle of Garm apoc supplement
Jan-Feb wfb beastmen
Feb-mar 40k necrons, wfb scenery "bridge"
Mar-beyond in no particular order - skaven, grey knights, high elves, sororitas!?, inquisition, empire

I added in the Natfka rumors since he is confirming them


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Lords of Wargaming
Release Schedule Rumors / Ork Rumors - May 2014
Orks Collectors codex will have a slipcase that will come with an artbook and a Ghazghkull supplement. The Ghazghkull supplement will be released at a later date.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/19 16:01:15


Post by: pretre


Natfka
Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014
LATE OCTOBER - EARLY NOVEMBER
Dark Eldar

MID-LATE NOVEMBER
EMPIRE

COMPLETE DECEMBER
The BObbit and Scenery

JANUARY
Possible Space Wolves



Puscifer
Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014
Orks - June/July
Blood Angels - August/September
Dark Eldar - October/November
Space Wolves - November/December
GK/Necrons - Whichever one is first, January.


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Natfka
Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
There may be a supplement this fall dedicated to organized play. With 7th edition Foc really dedicated to the narrative style of play in the new rulebook, this new supplement will cater to pick up games and organize game play. In that regards, previous rumors of percentages and side boards are in as an alternate way to play the game.
The timeline for such a supplement would be this fall before November. Also coming are more regular FAQ's once the new rulebook is released, but with very little interest in Erratas where rules or information are changed. It is felt that once the new rulebook is out, that more effort for FAQs is needed.


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Tastyfromage
Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014

I've actually heard from another source that SW will be the end of this year or early next year.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/20 16:27:14


Post by: pretre



Voice of the Chaos Gods - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Spoiler:

Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014
via The Voice of the Chaos Gods
GW plans Events for an subsequently 30th Birthdays of Warhammer Fantasy. The new edition is supposed to be part of it. When exactly I can not say.

I "optimized" my release shedule:
LATE MAY
40k 7th Edition (as already official)

EARLY-MID JUNE
Orks
(New Codex and Models)

LATE JUNE
Ork Theme Apocalypse Supplement
(possible Invasion of Badlanding)

EARLY-MID JULY
Bretons
(Armybook and such things)

LATE JULY
Chaos Space Marines Sets and Supplement
(Legionary/Havoc/Chosen Box, old CSM Box remains)

EARLY AUGUST
40k New Starter Set
(DV Revised)

MID-LATE AUGUST
Blood Angels
(Vampires in Space! Codex and Models)

EARLY SEPTEMBER
Armageddon Apocalypse Supplement
(new and updated content)

MID SEPTEMBER
Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition
(Such strange things called "Rules)

LATE SEPTEMBER - EARLY OCTOBER
Orcs and Goblins
(Armybook and new gitz)

MID OCTOBER
Fantasy Starter Set
(Empire vs. the green Guys)

LATE OCTOBER - EARLY NOVEMBER
Dark Eldar
(yes... Codex and Boxes)

MID-LATE NOVEMBER
EMPIRE
(A book with rules and models to play them, possibly new state troops, the design studio hates the current)

COMPLETE DECEMBER
The Hobbit and Scenery
(it calles "HObbit" not "BObiit"!)

JANUARY
Possible Space Wolves
(Vinkings in Space! Only without rob stupid christians )



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Natfka:

Bret Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
A little bird behinds the scenes has revealed to someone I know that
apparently Bretonnians are in July and will be getting a new book along
with...

Plastic duel kit questing/grail knights

Plastic knights of the realm/questing knights on foot. Have maces or swords
plus shields.

special rule for knights armed with maces confers a +1S

two clam packs with characters.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/27 15:54:35


Post by: pretre


Anyone catch any rumors this weekend? Ugh. Long weekend and I need to catch up.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/28 18:49:00


Post by: pretre


Okay, long weekend plus libxml/libfreetype/pixman explosion on my main internet machine.

I didn't catch any real rumors from this week. I got one Kroothawk one and then the rest is just WD and Natfka's silly Bret rumor that was shot down in the same thread.


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Ork Rumors - May 2014
Here a set of rumours from a source that prefers to stay anonymous:

The new mid size stompa thing looks like a pregnant Deff Dread. Comes with various weapon mountings, including what looks like a KFF.
New Gretchin models, including a grot oiler.
New mega nobs, not plastic versions of the existing.
Big Mek in mega armour with some interesting KFF like add ons.
Big Mek in Mega Armour with shoulder mounted weapons, maybe SAG but doesn't look like it.
Warboss is similar to the remodelling of the Helbrute from Dark Vengeance, it looks like a reworking of the AOBR Warboss with an attack Squig
New Pain Boy with a kind of Narthecium cybork hand.
Flash Gitz (They look particularly awesome, very much like Freebootaz with loads of variation in the kit).
Big Gunz. Total redesign.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/28 22:14:36


Post by: Ouze


I have to say that I was originally sort of critical of this project but it has definitely evolved into a really invaluable resource. Great job.



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/28 22:20:20


Post by: Shandara


It's our 'Voice of Truth'...


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/29 12:00:39


Post by: Insane Smile


Just wondering, is the early august starter set going to the DV re-released or something new? Kinda confused on that.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/29 14:41:08


Post by: Sinful Hero


 Insane Smile wrote:
Just wondering, is the early august starter set going to the DV re-released or something new? Kinda confused on that.

Lots of conflicting rumors on that ATM. You'll have to wait until August to find out.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/29 15:05:51


Post by: pretre


Thanks guys for the support! And yeah, we'll have to wait on the starter.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/29 15:14:05


Post by: ironicsilence


 Ouze wrote:
I have to say that I was originally sort of critical of this project but it has definitely evolved into a really invaluable resource. Great job.



I was very much of the same mindset but it has very much grown into something amazingly useful


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/05/30 15:14:33


Post by: pretre


Squidbot:
Ork Rumors - May 2014
Squidbot wrote:
New Dok looks to be nob sized. Quite likely a character. Cybork hand could be a PK but it has fingers. Well... scalpels and syringes.
Both look mono pose.
Those MANZ are the new ones for sure. Overall design is very similar to existing, but they're not the same models.

On the question about Big Gunz:

Squidbot wrote:
Looked to be 4 variants.

Ork Rumors - May 2014
Imagine devastator marines, but orks. Crazy guns, with other guns bolted on. Pirate hats, mohicans, cigars, waaagh banners with plenty of shiny bits.
I can't really say much more, shouldn't even have said this. The anonymous source Kroot posted a while back was me.
Seen stuff, and as an Ork player I am massively hyped for it all.
No idea what waves it comes in, or if some is for the alleged/debunked starter or what, but all the models I saw are beautiful.


Ork Rumors - May 2014
I think there are five configurations of Big Gunz on the way.
There may well be a larger meganob, with buzz saws rather than klaws. Possibly with Nazdreg/Specialist Big Mek in same box.

Theory; the new (Restyled AOBR) Warboss with Squigg could be Warlord Grukk as mentioned in the Dark Millenium book from the 7th set.

Mad Dok with Narthecium hand could be Grotsnik.


Ork Rumors - May 2014
New normal Grots that look to be parts of other kits.

Ork Rumors - May 2014
Yup. There's a model on the way with mega armour and KFF, seems we may be able to take both.

Ork Rumors - May 2014

Gretchin Big Gunz have had a full redesign. Much bigger.
Ghaz, Snikrot and Kommandos aren't sold out. ANd I don't think they're getting redone.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/02 16:40:01


Post by: pretre


Beasts of War
Ork Rumors - June 2014
via Weekender video on Beasts of War
new ork Formations inside the ork Dex and the stompa will be in the book.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/03 15:42:09


Post by: pretre


BoW
Ork Rumors - Jun 2014
Formation - 'ork warband' - warboss, mek, unit of nobs, six boys mobs, one unit of grots. Gives Boss of the Waaagh! Greenskin Hordes and Stampede rules.

Boss of the Waaagh! Lets you re-roll your warlord trait if taken as a primary detachment.

Greenskin Hordes. "Evey unit with ten or more models in the detachment gains the Hammer of Wrath special rule... and in every assault phase in which is successfuly charges an enemy unit the dice rolled for it's charge range in ten or more before modifers..." The wording here is confusing; not sure if it means that Hammer of Wrath only works if you roll ten or more, or if there was another rule which got cut out.

Stampede! If the formation's warboss is your warlord, he can use his Waaagh! special rule each and every turn after the first. This implies that warbosses have a special rule called 'Waaagh!' which usually can't be used every turn.

Detachment 'ork horde'. HQ, three troops, elite, fast attack, heavy support, fortification and Lord of War. Gives Greenskin Hordes and Boss of the Waaagh! Not sure if 'elite, fast attack and heavy support' was meant to mean one of each is compulsory.


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Vela
Ork rumors - Jun 2014
Ork Buggies
BS:3 (Grot Gunners)
AV and HP unchanged
+5pts apiece

As wide as the Trukk model, but half the length
Ork Trukk-style tires
Hot-rod engine with oversized engine piping along the sides
Turret-gunner is seated behind the driver
Multiple weapon options including:
Supashoota (linked)
Rokkit launcha (linked)
Heavy Flamer (linked)

Big Guns
There is contradictory chatter about a "Flakk" anti-air option for the Big Guns


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/04 22:41:11


Post by: Squidbot


Hey man, under my section you have me listed as saying these for rumours:

"Theory; the new (Restyled AOBR) Warboss with Squigg could be Warlord Grukk as mentioned in the Dark Millenium book from the 7th set.

Mad Dok with Narthecium hand could be Grotsnik. "

That wasn't rumours, that was me pondering possibilities.



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/05 15:15:13


Post by: pretre


Updated to:
Ork Rumors - May 2014
I think there are five configurations of Big Gunz on the way.
There may well be a larger meganob, with buzz saws rather than klaws. Possibly with Nazdreg/Specialist Big Mek in same box.

Theory; the new (Restyled AOBR) Warboss with Squigg could be Warlord Grukk as mentioned in the Dark Millenium book from the 7th set. SPECULATION

Mad Dok with Narthecium hand could be Grotsnik. SPECULATION


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/08 20:41:46


Post by: loki old fart


 pretre wrote:
Updated to:
Ork Rumors - May 2014
I think there are five configurations of Big Gunz on the way.
There may well be a larger meganob, with buzz saws rather than klaws. Possibly with Nazdreg/Specialist Big Mek in same box.

Theory; the new (Restyled AOBR) Warboss with Squigg could be Warlord Grukk as mentioned in the Dark Millenium book from the 7th set. SPECULATION

Mad Dok with Narthecium hand could be Grotsnik. SPECULATION


Zweischneid posted
Ork Rumours: Ghazghkull a Lord of War
http://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-ork-rumors-ghazghkull-traka-lord-of-war/


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/09 15:21:31


Post by: pretre


Perfect! Thanks.

Zweischneid - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Spoiler:

Ork Rumors
Rumours have it, Ghazghkull Thraka has been promoted, meaning he would no longer an HQ choice. Ghaz seems to be a Lords of War choice in the new Ork Codex for Warhammer 40K 7th Edition, competing with the Stompa.PENDING



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Grotorderly - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Spoiler:

Ork Rumors
Anyhow, this weekend (13th June) we will see a new model of Big Mek model (as I wrote couple posts below) with Shokk Attack Gun. The model will be 100% plastic and will cost us 20 pounds / 35 dollars.
Additionally we will get a new artillery unit. A Ork Mek Gun with six Gretchin crew. From the parts in the box we will be able to make Smasha Gun, Traktor Kannon, Bubble Chukka, Mega-Kannon. We don't know anything more about it, but I can guess this will swap the old artillery kits. Price: 25 pounds / 38 dollars



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/10 16:12:13


Post by: pretre


Grotorderly
Ork Rumors - Jun 2014
According to Grot Orderly: "Dex is definitely in issue 21, to be sold on 28th with issue 22."


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/10 16:13:14


Post by: Accolade


Thanks for keeping this Rumor Train running for over two years now, Pretre!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/10 16:26:13


Post by: pretre


 Accolade wrote:
Thanks for keeping this Rumor Train running for over two years now, Pretre!

Oh man. It's been two years?

lol. Thanks!


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Ork Rumors / Supplement Rumors - Jun 2014
via DarkWarrior1981 on Warseer
I just recieved word from someone who works for GW (higher up, not a red/black shirt), that there will be a codex supplement called Waaagh Ghazgkull. Obviously, themed around the warboss we all know. The book is listed as codex orks supplement, but it is unclear at the moment, if it will be like Clan Raukaan (so you need the codex), or standalone linke Militarum tempestus. It will be released soon, I assume shortly after the codex. It appears, that both books are already in the warehouse waiting for the day of release.


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Went through Vela's Fantasy=40k rumors. It was a blood bath.

T 8
F 51
PT 2


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/16 22:01:49


Post by: pretre


More bloodbath:

Natfka
T3
F28
PT 1

Vela
T 7
F 15
PT 1

Stick
PT 1
F 10

Tim 10F


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/23 16:08:18


Post by: pretre


Hoo boy is the new codex going to wreck some rumors. Can't wait to get a copy.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/23 23:38:11


Post by: Enigwolf


 pretre wrote:
 Accolade wrote:
Thanks for keeping this Rumor Train running for over two years now, Pretre!

Oh man. It's been two years?

lol. Thanks!


But actually though, lol. I've been gone for about 6 months, and so many old long threads are dead. Except for this one.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/24 02:03:47


Post by: pretre


Welcome back! Hopefully, I'll have the patience to keep this up for years to come.

Eventually we might need an archive though...


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/24 04:12:47


Post by: Enigwolf


 pretre wrote:
Welcome back! Hopefully, I'll have the patience to keep this up for years to come.

Eventually we might need an archive though...


Let me know if I can help out in any way!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/24 14:41:18


Post by: pretre


 Enigwolf wrote:
Let me know if I can help out in any way!

Always let me know if you see new rumors. I have cut back my posting in N&R so I sometimes miss stuff.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/25 15:30:25


Post by: pretre


Orkpocalypse!



Batty
F 6
PT 2

BOW
T 2

Darkwarrior1981
T1

Natfka
T 7
F 16

Grotorderly
T1

Juvieus Kaine
F 32

Kroothawk
T3

Larry Vela
F 9
T 2
PT 2

Perfect Org
F 1

Skullchewer
T 4

Squidbot
F2
T3

Stickmonkey
F 4
PT 2

Tim the Thief
F 7


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/26 12:16:49


Post by: Squidbot


Interesting that you have listed me saying there are four variants of the new Gretchin Big Gun model as false, when there are four variants.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/26 12:50:26


Post by: Avian


I though Skullchewer and Squidbot was the same guy. Go figure.


On Scoopdeta the "No rumours pending" bit has ended up inside the spoiler tag.



I think you're being to strict with the number of falses for Grotorderly.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/26 14:33:40


Post by: pretre


Avian wrote:
I though Skullchewer and Squidbot was the same guy. Go figure.


On Scoopdeta the "No rumours pending" bit has ended up inside the spoiler tag.



I think you're being to strict with the number of falses for Grotorderly.

Combined Skullchewer and Squidbot. Why can't people have consistent usernames? lol

Fixed Scoopdeta.

Well, I'm giving Grotorderly credit for their predictions of those items but they are providing incorrect prices. Which is especially bad since I think they just get super advanced WD copies. What do people think about that?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/26 16:11:08


Post by: Squidbot


And still ignoring the fact that I said 4 variants for the new Gretchin Guns, and marking it as false.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/06/26 16:17:49


Post by: pretre


 Squidbot wrote:
And still ignoring the fact that I said 4 variants for the new Gretchin Guns, and marking it as false.

Rawr.

I didn't see your response. I updated it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/07/01 17:10:21


Post by: pretre


Hastings posted something!
Chaos Rumors - Jun 2014
There's something large & nurgle-y coming first (Posted in a Bretonnians thread)


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/07/07 17:09:32


Post by: pretre


Updates. Natfka and Vela take more of a beating.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/07/14 14:31:19


Post by: pretre


Minor updates.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/07/17 17:02:11


Post by: pretre


Anyone have more detail on this poster?

via GW Tilea Italian Forums
New boxes fir Bretonnia

1 box grail/questing 5 models several weapon types

2 virtous knights/lost knights no further info

3 pegasus knight/knight of the house of the bear The house of the bear
Knight are heavy barded siege knights (slower, best armour, move wounds,
bonus attacks on charge, bonus vs buildings)

4 grail reliquary/altar of the lady The reliquary is pulled by peasants
and has offensive magic powers, the altar is pulled by foot knights and has
protective Magic powers

5 grail pilgrims/foot knights The multikit is based on pilgrims with
additional armour to convert them into foot knights. It seems that the
pegasus knights are the same with additional heavy bards to convert them
into house of the bear knights


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/07/21 14:45:37


Post by: pretre


Hoo boy. Gonna be busy.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/07/24 17:08:45


Post by: pretre


Massive updates.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/07/28 17:38:35


Post by: pretre


Natfka
F 15
T 1
PT 1

Vela
T
F 5
PT 2

Tim
T1
F2

Voice
F 8
T 1


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/08/04 16:39:44


Post by: pretre


The carnage continues for Vela/Natfka. Little Bird is very accurate.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/08/08 18:31:49


Post by: pretre


I think I got all the space wolf stuff. Voice of the Chaos Gods got hammered.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/08/12 17:40:10


Post by: pretre


Voice has hit rock bottom. :(


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/08/18 10:10:06


Post by: lobbywatson


Thanks for doing this btw! Anytime I see VotCG name now I justice move along. Him and natfka deserve one another.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/08/25 16:19:29


Post by: pretre


Minor updates.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/04 01:11:32


Post by: lobbywatson


Make sure you dock Voice for saying the Nagash release was going to be 4 weeks when it certainly looks like 3. Not to tell you what to do. Just a reminder! I hate that guy!!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/04 01:14:08


Post by: pretre


Heh I'll take a look once it's over. Thanks though!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/04 11:17:41


Post by: manrogue


Was looking at the accuracy for Father Gabe and noticed you don't have this new one in there -
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/09/warhammer-fantasy-9th-out-of-nowhere.html
Latest 9th Edition Rumors by Father Gabe 9-3-2014

Just got some news from several sources concerning the strong possibility of 9th edition Warhammer Fantasy.

1) Coming tomorrow to a GW near you will be a series of new posters for in store advertisement for something BIG as the corporate email stated.
2) Some GW stores are finding Island of Blood sets are being zeroed out of their system for restock. Similar when Dark Vengeance happened to Assault on Black Reach.
3) This part is speculation: Bretonnians are going to be playing a big part in the Nagash saga in the beginning, it is believed the following is going to happen:

a) Pre-Order for 9th Edition will be Sept 13th (with special editions - standard new edition merchandising)
b) October will receive the new box edition (if standard releases from past is an indicator) which may contain Bretonnians and Undead.
c) Bretonnians will have a new Army book, model release following that, possibly into November before the Christmas packs roll in.
d) intermingled among these releases will be probably some filler models (repackaged Crom/Valten/etc.), army bundles, etc.

4) Not of speculation, though it must be considered rumor, I (and a few chosen) have personally seen new artwork by John Blanche for Bretonnians. Does this mean it will be in the new book? No idea, but sometimes his stuff is used for the sculptors to pull concept to model.

Or we could be really blindsided by everything and it be 25 new paints (not very likely), Dark Eldar (possible) or something ridiculous like a mass Hobbit release. GW likes to have a strong second quarter launch that will help carry through 3rd quarter (end of February).


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/04 15:58:08


Post by: pretre


Perfect! Thanks.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/08 16:39:26


Post by: pretre


Updates. Harry's back!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/18 16:27:33


Post by: pretre


Minor updates. I'll do a big one after DE come out. Also, Chrome seems to have an issue with big pastes. Had to go into firefox to update.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/18 20:12:14


Post by: Zywus


The spolertag for the rumors supplied by Tozudos a Dieces is messed up.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/19 00:50:11


Post by: pretre


Thanks! I'll fix it tomorrow morning.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/19 20:21:31


Post by: pretre


Updated minor DE stuff.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/20 15:43:35


Post by: lobbywatson


Here comes voice with some amazing good stuff.
But first lets ding him up!!

"Release Schedule Rumors - Aug 2014
Via Voice of the Chaos Gods on Faeit 212
The Nagash campaign is a 4 weeks release."


No that was 3 weeks...

Ohh no.... Next week there is certainly looking like a bomber is coming..

"Dark Eldar Rumors - Sept 2014
Dark Eldar are next, 3-week releases with:

-No Bomber in the Codex
-New Female Archon Model (maybe Malys)
-New Drazhar model
-New Wracks TRUE
-Vect with big Vehicle (no Chariot)

Wracks are Plastic. The Female Archon is possibly modular enough for make a generic char and Malys too."


So he is claiming this now. Right after Steve the warboss said something similar.

Dated 9/20/14
via Voice of the Chaos God's
Archaon's Heralds will get redone
van Horstmann, Arbaal, Valnir & Dachala now lead the Chaos Mono Armies.

Steve the Warboss is dated
This is dated 9/19/14
via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212 ****
Endtimes Archaon‏
Van Horstmann gets a Multi-Kit to build either him or Galrauch.

Sorry I wont rest until the troll known as VotCG is destroyed and cant even take about stuff that is already out!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/20 16:26:14


Post by: pretre


I'll get that updated Monday. Thanks!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/20 22:38:57


Post by: Breotan


 lobbywatson wrote:
"Release Schedule Rumors - Aug 2014
Via Voice of the Chaos Gods on Faeit 212
The Nagash campaign is a 4 weeks release."

No that was 3 weeks...

I don't think that's enough of a slip to punish him with a wrong or partially correct. Now if the slip was a month or more...



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/20 23:38:23


Post by: pretre


I tend to agree that would be false. There weren't four weeks of releases.


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Or at least partially true... I'll look Monday.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/20 23:52:23


Post by: MasterSlowPoke


 Breotan wrote:
 lobbywatson wrote:
"Release Schedule Rumors - Aug 2014
Via Voice of the Chaos Gods on Faeit 212
The Nagash campaign is a 4 weeks release."

No that was 3 weeks...

I don't think that's enough of a slip to punish him with a wrong or partially correct. Now if the slip was a month or more...



If it was someone who didn't make up everything they'd say I'd advocate being more lenient. With Voice there's no reason to be nice.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/22 15:41:21


Post by: pretre


Minor updates for VOTCG. Check my work if you get a chance, I don't know crap about fantasy.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/23 11:36:31


Post by: lobbywatson


Fantasy Supplement Rumors - Aug 2014
via Voice of the Chaos Gods on Faeit 212
A little Release Schedule for the End Times
Week II ALREADY TRUE
-Manfred/Arkhan/Neferata COmbi-Box TRUE
-Spirit Hosts TRUE
-Novel TRUE

Week III ALREADY TRUE
-Valten TRUE
-Valten Mounted TRUE
-Morghast Combi-Box TRUE
-Novel


I'll do the digging when I get home from work but these were released images from a Spanish website then he magically had a rumor that Natfka posted. I'll do the due diligence on this. I'll dig up the info you need to remove these "true".


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/23 14:30:14


Post by: pretre


Okay, let me know.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/23 16:08:48


Post by: MasterSlowPoke


I think Spirit Hosts were week 3 of the Nagash releases, as well.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/23 21:42:59


Post by: lobbywatson


Ok on 8/23/14 7:30 am Voice said this.
via Voice of the Chaos Gods on Faeit 212
A little Release Schedule for the End Times

Week II
-Manfred/Arkhan/Neferata COmbi-Box
-Spirit Hosts
-Novel

Week III
-Valten
-Valten Mounted
-Morghast Combi-Box
-Novel


Only problem is this site leaked the new character rules on 8/22/14
http://tozudosadieces.blogspot.com/2014/08/fin-de-los-tiempos-warhammer-nagash.html

Its better on 8/18/14 They leaked all the Nagash and Mortarch pics
http://tozudosadieces.blogspot.com/2014/08/fin-de-los-tiempos-nagash-y-sus.html

I don't know Spanish but I remember in warseer forums people translating the text and they leaked a rough schedule as well.

Any ways my point. Voice gets zero credit for stuff other people leaked.

His week II
Mortarch-Already true
Spirit hosts- False week III
Novel- I don't know. I don't even remember a novel. This could be right.

His week III
Valten-False
Valten Mounted-False
Morghast Combi-Box-Already true
Novel- I don't know. Could be





Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/09/23 21:45:55


Post by: pretre


Okay, I'll take a look tomorrow.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/10/06 15:44:17


Post by: pretre


Massive updates, including putting some really old ones to bed.

Can someone check Paladin and Shadeseraph's Wood Elf rumors? I suck at fantasy.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/10/07 13:44:50


Post by: Avian


Those are all true.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/10/07 16:05:37


Post by: pretre


Updated.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/10/17 16:10:16


Post by: pretre


Minor updates


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/10/21 21:09:55


Post by: pretre


Added an 'End Times Rumors' title and updated a few.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/10/23 21:02:30


Post by: Avian


It's been a year and a half since the last of Reecius' rumours. Perhaps time to put them to rest?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/10/23 21:05:00


Post by: pretre


Okay, updating now. Double check the FW stuff for me.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/10/27 17:21:39


Post by: pretre


Minor updates. LoWG still rocking out.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/03 19:11:09


Post by: pretre


Updated some old tracks for mycetic spore dual kits.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/03 20:24:23


Post by: Wonderwolf


 pretre wrote:
Updated some old tracks for mycetic spore dual kits.


Wait? Somebody predicted this release for this week correctly?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/03 20:29:12


Post by: pretre


Wonderwolf wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Updated some old tracks for mycetic spore dual kits.


Wait? Somebody predicted this release for this week correctly?

No, but someone predicted a mycetic spore dual kit a year or so ago.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/03 20:47:59


Post by: Avian


Which did you correct? I remember a lot of them talking about spores more creature-like, sort of bigger Tervigon, which this kit is not.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/03 21:09:43


Post by: pretre


Avian wrote:
Which did you correct? I remember a lot of them talking about spores more creature-like, sort of bigger Tervigon, which this kit is not.

Basically only the ones that said 'Dual Kit' I think 2 for Natfka got switched and 1 for Vela. I left the rest false since the details of their description were wrong, but the concept of a dual kit spore was right.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/10 08:24:57


Post by: manrogue


Spotted this on BoLS this morning, noticed its not on Darnocks profile while checking his accuracy-

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/11/breaking-wfb-endtimes-khaine-is-coming.html

The Elves get their turn with a twist in the upcoming End Times Series for Warhammer Fantasy. Here's the latest:


End Times Rumors 11-9-2014 (Black Library Weekender)

via Warseer's Darnok:
Now what if I tell you that 1.) the Elves ET book will come with no models alongside it and 2.) there will be two more ET books after it?

Volume III: The Curse of Khaine (Scheduled for this year)
Volume IV: Skaven Book
Volume V: Unknown rumored final volume



The big point of contention out there in rumorland is whether or not End Times: Khaine will come with models, or be a book only release. Based on what we've seen before from the End Times series, Army Bundles to represent the listed battle hosts is a given, and both High Elves and Dark Elves have received substantial new kits in their last updates.

But then again, would a model of Khaine himself count as an "Elf Model"?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/10 15:43:25


Post by: pretre


Awesome. Thanks!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/13 16:28:33


Post by: pretre


Tons of updates.

Here's my work list (not all inclusive, but gives you an idea):
Natfka
T 16
F 35
PT 4

Vela
T 6
F 25


Stickm
T 3
F 16

Tim
T 4
F 7


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/24 18:14:44


Post by: pretre


Added recent rumors.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 14:06:24


Post by: necronspurs2012


1st: My dwarf rumour was true.

2nd: The speculation about the website going down and it could be the new one. Was not a rumour just me pointing a fact.

3rd: you just picked each individual paragraph my rumpurs and called it false.

4th: you labeled BA as false yet the year is not over.

Nice to see you hate me being right


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 14:24:07


Post by: Lord Scythican


 necronspurs2012 wrote:
1st: My dwarf rumour was true.

2nd: The speculation about the website going down and it could be the new one. Was not a rumour just me pointing a fact.

3rd: you just picked each individual paragraph my rumpurs and called it false.

4th: you labeled BA as false yet the year is not over.

Nice to see you hate me being right


I would take a more positive step forward with this. Something more like this:

 necronspurs2012 wrote:


1st: I believe my dwarf rumour was true and I am not sure why it was marked false. Was it because of the release date?

2nd: I didn't mean for the speculation about the website going down and it could be because of a new website to be a rumor. It was just a comment on what was happening at the time. It is strange that GW did release a new website though.

3rd: you just picked each individual paragraph my rumours and called it false.

4th: My BA rumor is labeled as false but I still have a few more weeks. If it ends up being 2014 could I at least get a partially true even though I might only be wrong by a month or so?

A lot of people hate on me for being wrong, but some of these corrections will help with that.


No idea on the 3rd one. A lot of times people pick rumors apart for individual bits of information even if you intended it as one rumor.


I realize you are a little agitated because of how people have pounded your rumors into the dirt when all you want to do is share the information you know with all of us. The internet is a tricky thing though. Sometimes putting the best foot forward before others goes a long way.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 15:21:09


Post by: necronspurs2012


 Lord Scythican wrote:
 necronspurs2012 wrote:
1st: My dwarf rumour was true.

2nd: The speculation about the website going down and it could be the new one. Was not a rumour just me pointing a fact.

3rd: you just picked each individual paragraph my rumpurs and called it false.

4th: you labeled BA as false yet the year is not over.

Nice to see you hate me being right


I would take a more positive step forward with this. Something more like this:

 necronspurs2012 wrote:


1st: I believe my dwarf rumour was true and I am not sure why it was marked false. Was it because of the release date?

2nd: I didn't mean for the speculation about the website going down and it could be because of a new website to be a rumor. It was just a comment on what was happening at the time. It is strange that GW did release a new website though.

3rd: you just picked each individual paragraph my rumours and called it false.

4th: My BA rumor is labeled as false but I still have a few more weeks. If it ends up being 2014 could I at least get a partially true even though I might only be wrong by a month or so?

A lot of people hate on me for being wrong, but some of these corrections will help with that.


No idea on the 3rd one. A lot of times people pick rumors apart for individual bits of information even if you intended it as one rumor.


I realize you are a little agitated because of how people have pounded your rumors into the dirt when all you want to do is share the information you know with all of us. The internet is a tricky thing though. Sometimes putting the best foot forward before others goes a long way.


yea your right.

Try to share my knowledge with orhers. To bad not everyone is appreciated.




Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 16:09:46


Post by: pretre


 necronspurs2012 wrote:
1st: My dwarf rumour was true.

As far as I knew this was incorrect. Anyone else want to help out?

Dwarf Rumors / GW Site Rumors - Jan 2014
Dwarfs are set to get a heavy release in the first two weeks of february. FALSE
The first week is the codex and all redos of metal/finecast kits along with troops units. FALSE
The second week will bring new kits and the larger ones like warmachines and characters. FALSE

Dwarf slayers with get a new plastic kit FALSE
and a new siege engine will be released aswell FALSE


2nd: The speculation about the website going down and it could be the new one. Was not a rumour just me pointing a fact.

This doesn't sound like speculation.

The new gw website will launch in march. FALSE
The forgeworld, black library and gw sites will merge as one under the name of Games Workshop. How all books and fw products will be arranged is to be seen. whether all books and novels will be under each army they are about or under a black libary tab and FW products under each army or under a FW tab. FALSE

Forgeworld Rumors Codex - Jan 2014
To go with forge world combining web pages with GW, they will release codexes containing their products with all rules, stats and fluff for each army for both 40k and fantasy. These will be similar to supplements with new rules and warlord traits. The prices are said to be similar to 40k hard back codices FALSE


3rd: you just picked each individual paragraph my rumpurs and called it false.

That's how it works. We analyze each thing you say and assess true or false.

4th: you labeled BA as false yet the year is not over.

I labeled BA as false since another army came out between GK and BA.

Nice to see you hate me being right

No one hates anyone. If you have a problem with an individual track that I did, please post it here and we will discuss it. So far, I'm not seeing anything to change.


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Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 16:17:08


Post by: Accolade


I'm in full agreement with pretre- his rumors are consistently updated and he gets a lot of feedback from the community as a whole, especially when new information comes to light.

necronspurs2012, I'm curious which of the "False"-labelled rumors you feel is improperly tagged?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 17:28:56


Post by: necronspurs2012


The first part of the dwarfs was right.

The part about the website going down! And it could be the new site In January was just speculation.



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 17:36:36


Post by: pretre


Dwarfs are set to get a heavy release in the first two weeks of february. FALSE
This part? Someone want to help him out here? Wasn't Feb 2014 Tyranids?

What part about the website going down? Cut and paste, man! This is speculation?
To go with forge world combining web pages with GW, they will release codexes containing their products with all rules, stats and fluff for each army for both 40k and fantasy. These will be similar to supplements with new rules and warlord traits. The prices are said to be similar to 40k hard back codices FALSE
That looks like a statement, not speculation.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 17:51:35


Post by: Eldarain


Going strictly from memory I think Tyranids were January.

As there was a lot of conflicting rumors of Nids dropping in Dec or Jan. Similar to the recent discussions about BA "Dec is always Hobbit/bundles etc"


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:02:09


Post by: Warhams-77


Nids were in Jan 2014, I have the WD next to me

Dwarfs came with the first issue of White Dwarf Weekly. According to the BL website the mag was released on Feb 1st 2014

http://www.blacklibrary.com/whitedwarf/White-Dwarf-Issue-1.html
http://www.blacklibrary.com/whitedwarf/White-Dwarf-Issue-2.html
http://www.blacklibrary.com/whitedwarf/White-Dwarf-Issue-3.html



With issue 4 GW switched back to 40k - with the Imperial Knights (Feb 22nd 2014)

http://www.blacklibrary.com/whitedwarf/white-dwarf-issue-4.html

Not sure if there were any Dwarf releases in this mag as well




Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:05:09


Post by: filbert


Here is the N&R thread concerning dwarves:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/575148.page

It was Feb 2014


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:07:35


Post by: Kanluwen


 pretre wrote:
Dwarfs are set to get a heavy release in the first two weeks of february. FALSE
This part? Someone want to help him out here? Wasn't Feb 2014 Tyranids?

Dwarfs were February(until the 22nd when it shifted to the Imperial Knights), but none of his predicted units were actually detailed...so I'd call that a false/partially true? Everything he listed was just so vague that it could have been lucky guesses.

The release breakdown for Dwarfs was as follows:
February 01st(preorder date) to February 08th(release):
Belegar Ironhammer(plastic blister)
Dragon Slayer(plastic blister)
Hammerers/Longbeards(plastic boxed set)

2/7-2/15:
Gyrobomber/Gyrocopter(plastic boxed set)
Dwarf Runelord(plastic blister)
Grimm Burloksson(plastic blister)
Warhammer Armies: Dwarfs(army book)

2/14-2/22:
Dwarf Battleline(army box)
Ironbreakers/Irondrakes(plastic boxed set)

Added bonus? Digital Dataslate: Tyranid Invasion came out this same timeframe.

The next week(2/22-3/1) was the release of the Imperial Knight model.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:29:25


Post by: pretre


Aha, so first three weeks of Feb were dwarves. Partially true it is.


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Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:32:40


Post by: Accolade


So, timeline seems relatively correct, but most of the details about the releases themselves either very vague or incorrect.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:43:17


Post by: Azreal13


 Accolade wrote:
So, timeline seems relatively correct, but most of the details about the releases themselves either very vague or incorrect.


Only if you take the time line as that which was correct, AFAIK there's no sign of Bretts or Beastmen, and not a hint of the End Times, so I think Pretre has been generous in marking each release individually, personally I'd lean towards a "partially true" for the thing as one rumour.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:43:25


Post by: necronspurs2012


 pretre wrote:
Aha, so first three weeks of Feb were dwarves. Partially true it is.


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People just will not accept it. You try to find every little thing to make me seem wrong.

All post eill now be on thenecronspurs2012 from now on.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:44:45


Post by: Azreal13


 necronspurs2012 wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Aha, so first three weeks of Feb were dwarves. Partially true it is.


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People just will not accept it. You try to find every little thing to make me seem wrong.

All post eill now be on thenecronspurs2012 from now on.


Nah, just the stuff that's, you know, incorrect.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:48:52


Post by: pretre


 Azreal13 wrote:
 necronspurs2012 wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Aha, so first three weeks of Feb were dwarves. Partially true it is.


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Updating the OP.


People just will not accept it. You try to find every little thing to make me seem wrong.

All post eill now be on thenecronspurs2012 from now on.


Nah, just the stuff that's, you know, incorrect.

No one is persecuting you, NS2012. We are simply evaluating your statements and comparing them to what really happened. You brought up the dwarf thing. I reevaluated it for you because I was incorrect. Not sure what else you want me to do...


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:49:15


Post by: Accolade


 Azreal13 wrote:
 Accolade wrote:
So, timeline seems relatively correct, but most of the details about the releases themselves either very vague or incorrect.


Only if you take the time line as that which was correct, AFAIK there's no sign of Bretts or Beastmen, and not a hint of the End Times, so I think Pretre has been generous in marking each release individually, personally I'd lean towards a "partially true" for the thing as one rumour.


Right, I admit I was trying to cut necronspur2012 a little slack since he seems to think everyone is out to get him. I think pretre does a fantastic job with the rumors and is never overly critical of individual rumors. Everything that has been marked "false" has been pretty darn fair, and changing one rumor from "false" to "partially true" doesn't change the fact that most of this seems cobbled together from other rumors and wishlisting.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/25 18:52:51


Post by: pretre


Yes, well. I am the nice one...



Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/26 08:40:05


Post by: Warhams-77


Hi there

I was reading through the Steve the Warboss parts because there seems to be more and more either sketchy (WFB) or very imaginative rumors (new SM sprues) from him. I hope he will turn out correct though


Blood Angel Rumors - Sept 2014
via Steve the Warboss
-The Sons of Sanguinius will come soon after Endtimes Book 2.
-GW will use this release slot to replace older Space Marine Plastic sprues.
-4-5 week are realistic.


BA were not after the End Times 2 book - ET 3 is already out
The other two points are unknown yet but we should see the correctness of them pretty soon




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via Steve the Warboss 11-25-2014

-The Work on the Rules has already completed
-Endtimes will maybe not mentioned in the Rulebook
-The Design Studio seems working on Siege Rules for an Expansion
-The Starter Set will return to "step by step" introduction
-No allied Matrix like 40k, we become something like "factions"
-GW plans the release for May, Starter will come in June



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Fantasy Supplement Rumors - Aug 2014
via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
Endtimes will have 4 Books;
Book 1 will released next weekend.ALREADY TRUE

Book 2 with Chaos in October. TRUE

Book 3 with Skaven in January. FALSE or PT




Fantasy Rumors - Aug 2014
via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
Chaos Warriors becomes a Chosen Plastic Kit. FALSE
...


Putrid Blightkings are a different unit than WOC Chosen, by name and rules http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pW9tN9u-OC8/VDJyW6QiKzI/AAAAAAAAESE/5gsgDFyhnGI/s1600/BzQU9zOIUAApVIi.jpg


(continued)
...
For Khemri we will see a Colossus Model. FALSE or vague


Afaik a Khemri Colossus is already established in the fluff - basically a Khemri Titan - but not Nagash or one of the other ET releases. This has to be answered by someone with more wfb knowledge though


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/26 17:26:17


Post by: pretre


Cool. I'll update after the holiday break.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/26 18:26:53


Post by: Desteele


 pretre wrote:
Cool. I'll update after the holiday break.

Hi Pretre. Nightfury can be marked up on some of his/her Tyranid predictions.

He/She also posted the following
nightfuryNovember 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Don't fret.. the nuns are on the horizon.. my gf said its the only army she has interest in playing but won't let me "waste" any $$$ on anything that's within months of being released and i was told to wait until next year before purchasing any additional models.. take it however you want but even with the significant discounts i can get i am to be patient.. luckily i have way too much on my table to worry anytime soon.. just finished converting Logans sled dogs into saddled Thunderwolves with riders.. pics to follow :-)"
on a Sisters of Battle thread on FAEIT 212
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/sisters-of-battle-keep-faith.html

Thanks for all your work.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/11/26 21:03:21


Post by: pretre


Man, I'm gonna be busy on Monday.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/01 16:36:46


Post by: pretre


Trying to catch up after the weekend. I think i got them.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/01 19:46:54


Post by: Warhams-77


Hi Pretre, you've missed these



Blood Angel Rumors - Oct 2014
Blood Angels Latest:

Miniatures & Products
-New Character, a Captain (maybe 1.Company) True
-Mephiston in plastic
-New Terminator Box with all weapon options
-New Assault Marine Box
-New generic Dreadnought
-Honour Guard Box (maybe only an repack)

-Mephiston will be a LoW, he turned into a "uber" psyker
-BA Painting Guide True
-Suppliment featuring the new captain


Blood Angel Rumors - Sept 2014
via Steve the Warboss
-The Sons of Sanguinius will come soon after Endtimes Book 2. False
-GW will use this release slot to replace older Space Marine Plastic sprues.
-4-5 week are realistic.


Fantasy Supplement Rumors - Aug 2014
via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
Endtimes will have 4 Books;
Book 1 will released next weekend.ALREADY TRUE

Book 2 with Chaos in October. TRUE

Book 3 with Skaven in January. False This is book 4

Book 4 with other Forces in March.

Short after this the 9th Edition comes. The Rulebook comes at the same time like 40k 7th in 2014.


Fantasy Rumors - Aug 2014
via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
Chaos Warriors becomes a Chosen Plastic Kit. False

For Khemri we will see a Colossus Model. False



By the way thanks a lot for this thread, it is really helpful!






Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/01 19:54:04


Post by: pretre


Updated.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/01 22:00:04


Post by: troy_tempest


Frankly amazing job old chap. Your dedication is truly inspiring. And I love performance measurement!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/02 09:01:29


Post by: Avian


Some more Skaven rumours. Not very likely to come true...

scoopdeta wrote:So I recieved some information from a close friend of mine recently regarding the Skaven Release for the End-Times. Just to add some more clarity on the source...the information comes from marketing materials which have been developed/are being developed for the sales side of the house. Can't provide too much more info on that as I do not want to get my friend in hot water. I have known him since college and he would have no reason to lie to me. So this is the rundown he gave me:

Skaven background will focus on an invasion of Lustria and inlcude a lot of information on Lizardmen and “the plan” as well. While the book will be Skaven focused, it will still have a heavy Lizardmen flavor as the main plot lines focus around them. It will also discuss the “Great Ascendancy” which will include the horned rat and the rise of the Skaven to the surface to enslave all of mankind (or attempt to). The true roots of Skaven will also be discussed. It will also cover Skaven happenings around the warhammer world, including the Dwarfs, the Chaos Invasion and the return of Nagash and how the rats fit into the whole picture. The Skaven are not too keen on the whole end of times motif for the obvious negative effects it will have on their survival...so as usual they plot and scheme to ensure that their best interests are served in the end with others doing their dirty work. Not to play spoiler, but it sounds as though they will play a pivotal role in undoing the nefarious plans of the dark powers.
There will be new models accompanying the release to include:
New Vermin Lord (Horned Rat) BIG Kit....
Lord Skrolk
Lord Nurglitch
Grey Seer Thanquol and Bone Ripper
Grey Seer on Foot
Rat Ogres
Dual kit with Poisoned Wind Globadiers and Plague Censer Bearers

I will say that I was hesitant to post this at all as there seems to be a bit of aggression at times within these forums. However I love some Skaven and I do follow these forums closely and felt that I should share. Take it for what you will…




http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?402878-End-Times-Skaven&p=7327164#post7327164


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/02 16:18:06


Post by: pretre


Added and updated a bunch of BA rumors.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/08 16:42:59


Post by: pretre


Ugh, the holidays. I feel like I may be missing some of the recent stuff.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/08 17:16:38


Post by: techsoldaten


 pretre wrote:
Ugh, the holidays. I feel like I may be missing some of the recent stuff.


The fact you know that is awesome. Good work!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/08 17:17:49


Post by: pretre


Thanks. If anyone saw anything I missed, let me know and I'll add it.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2014/12/31 17:33:08


Post by: pretre


I think I just caught up on rumors. Now I need to grade a bunch of BA rumors.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/05 22:28:56


Post by: pretre


Natfka railing against the rumor tracker again:

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/01/skitarii-dunewalker-sighted.html?showComment=1420495589817#c6239120455509606739

He still has never come up with one instance of my 'abysmal track record'.


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Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/06 22:14:39


Post by: Avian


This guy's record is something like 25%, so presumably junk:

EarlyBird wrote:from the horse mouth

factions :

1) Chaos : Demons + Beasts + Mortals
2) Elves
3) Empire
4) Undead
5) Orcs and Goblins
6) Skavens

Lizards are gone in space.
Dwarves survivors join the empire with the ogres.

1) Chaos core : Warriors of chaos/chariot/Hounds
Demons figs will be kept as they are usable in 40k
Bye bye marauders, ungors, centigors, razorgor etc

2) Elves core : spearmen/archers/cavalry on horse
No more xbows
the 3 elves will blend in one faction
dark elves monsters are gone : cold ones, hydra

3) Empire core: Hallberds/Handgun/Canon
Some dwarves survivors and ogres are included
Imperial and bretonnian knights are merged

4) Undead core : Skeletons/Ghouls/Spirit host
bye bye bone giant, scorpion sphinx, chariots and everything too much egyptian

5) Orcs and goblins core : Goblins/Orcs/Black orcs
no real change for them

6) Skaven core : Clanrats/Plague rats/Rat ogres
no real change for them too

cheers


http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?404065-Warhammer-And-Now-For-Something-Completely-Different&p=7349364&viewfull=1#post7349364


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/06 22:19:01


Post by: pretre


Thanks. I need to get in and do a big update one of these days but haven't been able to.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/09 19:46:01


Post by: pretre


Updated Steve


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/12 16:09:03


Post by: pretre


Added a bunch.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/12 16:21:20


Post by: Accolade


 pretre wrote:
Natfka railing against the rumor tracker again:

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/01/skitarii-dunewalker-sighted.html?showComment=1420495589817#c6239120455509606739

He still has never come up with one instance of my 'abysmal track record'.


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Ooh, deleting my comments too.


Wow, can't handle criticism at all, can he? No, the highly-managed rumor tracker (both yourself pretre and all the support you get from Dakkanauts) MUST be wrong!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/12 16:32:40


Post by: pretre


Heheh. Exactly.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/14 22:21:53


Post by: pretre


Here's an ancient rumor from Cargad.com that I need to fact check:

Release Schedule Rumors - Feb 2009

Thanks to a small bird, we give a pile you of the VERY TRUSTWORTHY news exceeds what Games Workshop will send during 2.009. Obvious, surely what it is said safe is nothing, but he is quite safe *
March: the War of Anillo. I supplement so that SdA is a game of battles and not of skirmishes. They will even sell plastic pedestals for “adapting” or “putting in rows” minis of the Gentleman of the Ring. *
April: the Imperial Guard comes. Few new miniatures, but will be something (and great). *
May: Fantasy, second big wave of miniatures of the Empire. To already known Tank Steam they are united (finally) Great the Espaderos to him of plastic. We will also see the new Altar military. *
Julio: Warhammer 40,000 Planet Strike. I supplement for planetary assaults. The stage scene says that it is the best one than it has never been seen.
* August: Elfos for SDA.
* September: You remember that we said to you that for 2,009 was going away to reedit a classic one? Then already we can say that one is SPACE HULK. With new miniatures (impressive) among others of Exterminadores and Genestealers. Without a doubt, the explosion of 2,009 (and now to hope that also they reedit Heroquest). Ah, has said to us that perhaps the price is high, so to buy in England it becomes essential.
* October: It is possible (but it is without confirming) that of Warhammer Fantasy we see the Skavens.
* In November it is highly probable that we see códex of certain chapter of Marin, but not yet is confirmed. And now, the brief news:
* For the 2,010, it almost seems certainly there will be new códex of Tiránidos and Bloody Angeles (taking advantage of the pull of Space Hulk), and says that Necrones or (attention) Tau.
* Of Fantasy the first army that we will see will be the one of Khemri. Without the news of the Beasts of the Chaos.
* There is the good news and the bad news for fans of the Eldar Dark. The good one is that the project is finished, book and miniatures. The bad one is that by low popularity of códex, its launching has discarded.
* A rumor that had appeared envelope that Games Workshop could “leave of side” printed books and to happen to give the pdf free (since already it did in Japan) is denied. That is everything. We give thanks to who has blown the news to us (that she will follow in the anonymity).


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Major updates. I may actually be caught up. Larry had a bad couple months.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/16 00:11:58


Post by: ClockworkZion


Going to put myself under the bus again: http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2004546&postcount=8


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/16 01:16:49


Post by: pretre




unknown said:
The Codex is done, the models are in production, and it's nebulously a Q2 release. It's the Dark Eldar treatment-- rebuilt the range from the ground up, completely.

Post it in the sisters thread. I'll update this one tomorrow.

May the emperor have mercy on your soul.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/16 02:12:17


Post by: ClockworkZion


It's already linked in the Sisters rumor thread too. I was posting via phone at the time so copy and pasting was too much of a headache. I am hoping this pans out better than last time this source told me anything though.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/16 15:51:43


Post by: pretre


 ClockworkZion wrote:
It's already linked in the Sisters rumor thread too. I was posting via phone at the time so copy and pasting was too much of a headache. I am hoping this pans out better than last time this source told me anything though.

Yeah, that one was not so good. lol


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/16 16:03:22


Post by: ClockworkZion


 pretre wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
It's already linked in the Sisters rumor thread too. I was posting via phone at the time so copy and pasting was too much of a headache. I am hoping this pans out better than last time this source told me anything though.

Yeah, that one was not so good. lol

Oh I know. But if this fails, so do a lot of other existing rumors so it's not like I'm the only one who is potentially wrong.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/23 23:18:45


Post by: Avian


scoopdeta wrote:Skaven background will focus on an invasion of Lustria and inlcude a lot of information on Lizardmen and “the plan” as well. While the book will be Skaven focused, it will still have a heavy Lizardmen flavor as the main plot lines focus around them. It will also discuss the “Great Ascendancy” which will include the horned rat and the rise of the Skaven to the surface to enslave all of mankind (or attempt to). The true roots of Skaven will also be discussed. It will also cover Skaven happenings around the warhammer world, including the Dwarfs, the Chaos Invasion and the return of Nagash and how the rats fit into the whole picture. The Skaven are not too keen on the whole end of times motif for the obvious negative effects it will have on their survival...so as usual they plot and scheme to ensure that their best interests are served in the end with others doing their dirty work. Not to play spoiler, but it sounds as though they will play a pivotal role in undoing the nefarious plans of the dark powers.

FALSE

There will be new models accompanying the release to include:
New Vermin Lord (Horned Rat) BIG Kit....

TRUE (pile on)

Lord Skrolk

FALSE

Lord Nurglitch

FALSE

Grey Seer Thanquol and Bone Ripper

TRUE (pile on)

Grey Seer on Foot

TRUE

Rat Ogres

TRUE

Dual kit with Poisoned Wind Globadiers and Plague Censer Bearers

FALSE


About as expected. It was shown that Arthurius11 knew what he was talking about when his earlier End Times rumours were proven true. So this guy copied what he had to say about Skaven and added some guesses of his own. Some of these were true, but most were not.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/24 00:13:11


Post by: pretre


Cool, I'll update Monday. Thanks, Avian!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/01/26 18:31:12


Post by: pretre


Updated.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/01 17:36:12


Post by: Kanluwen


Isn't it about time to just close the book on the Blood Bowl rumors that Harry has under his listing?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/02 16:08:33


Post by: pretre


 Kanluwen wrote:
Isn't it about time to just close the book on the Blood Bowl rumors that Harry has under his listing?

You mean hastings? Harry already got his false because he had a date. I'll update him.

New rumor monger: Whispereroftruth


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/08 18:42:26


Post by: Wonderwolf


New 'Zerkers?

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/chaos-in-march.html

via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
-New Khorne Berzerker Box
-Khorne Berzerker on Moloch Box (Juggernaut)
-Chaos Lord of Khorne Clam Pack


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/09 15:56:05


Post by: pretre


Got that one. Bloodthirster is confirmed, btw.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/11 20:37:09


Post by: pretre


Fixed Sad Panda.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/17 16:10:42


Post by: pretre


Wow. Tons of new rumors to be added.


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 ClockworkZion wrote:
Yeah, the tracker is an imperfect system and has been argued with before.

Of course, it is imperfect. That being said, some arguments for reform are unrealistic. Any that rely on us knowing the hearts and minds of GW or rumor mongers are obviously on that side of the fence.

At this point, the methodology is about as good as we're going to get. It only requires us to know two real questions about any rumor monger:
Did they say something?
Did it come true?

That's much simpler and easier to prove than:
Did they say something?
What were the facts at GW regarding this rumor at the time?
Did those facts change at GW and invalidate the rumor?
Did other, non-GW events that are non-public cause the rumor to change?
Is the anonymous source of the person who is mongering the same?
Are they telling the truth about that or are they just trying to get a new start on the tracker?
Did the monger misinterpret their source's information?
Did the rumor end up true?

edit: I get it. Really, I do. No one likes to see their name with a bunch of FALSEs next to it. No one likes their word questioned when it was no fault of their own. The tracker isn't saying mongers are bad people for getting falses though. It is just telling everyone else what that person's history is. People can make their own decisions about what that means.

For more discussion, we should probably take it to the rumor thread.


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Additionally, the thing that we can do here that benefits all is debate tracks, update tracks when I make a mistake and generally make this a community supported resource.

If you go back through the pages here, you'll notice numerous debates, updates and changes based on community feedback. It is very seldom where I just said 'that's how it is' and didn't take feedback.


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 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
Yeah, the tracker is an imperfect system and has been argued with before.

Of course, it is imperfect. That being said, some arguments for reform are unrealistic. Any that rely on us knowing the hearts and minds of GW or rumor mongers are obviously on that side of the fence.

At this point, the methodology is about as good as we're going to get. It only requires us to know two real questions about any rumor monger:
Did they say something?
Did it come true?

That's much simpler and easier to prove than:
Did they say something?
What were the facts at GW regarding this rumor at the time?
Did those facts change at GW and invalidate the rumor?
Did other, non-GW events that are non-public cause the rumor to change?
Is the anonymous source of the person who is mongering the same?
Are they telling the truth about that or are they just trying to get a new start on the tracker?
Did the monger misinterpret their source's information?
Did the rumor end up true?

edit: I get it. Really, I do. No one likes to see their name with a bunch of FALSEs next to it. No one likes their word questioned when it was no fault of their own. The tracker isn't saying mongers are bad people for getting falses though. It is just telling everyone else what that person's history is. People can make their own decisions about what that means.

You don't accept retractions or corrections to rumors though either, just the initial statement, which may make some people balk.

Also despite your intent being that, it's not what ends up happening and you know it. Heck you've tried doing it to me before too.

I absolutely do accept retractions and corrections when they occur in a reasonable amount of time. If someone retracts after it is obvious they are false or everyone calls them on it, that's not a retraction/correction, that's changing with the winds.

Also, I'm not sure what you're saying with the last part. Are you saying that you have been unfairly persecuted for your rumors? Because that's exactly what didn't happen. We said that your rumor history is your rumor history.


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The system isn't perfect and can't be perfect. The point was that the complaint that it sometimes doesn't get things right has been raised before.

Is there anything that we can PROVE that we have gotten wrong in the tracker? I would absolutely change it if there was.


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 Harry wrote:
I was just playing with you. I make no claim to being 100% correct. I am very often guessing based on less than complete information. I make no excuses for the times I get it wrong (apologies , Yes,... excuses, No)..... The fact that my record is as good as it is a mystery to me.

Fair enough.
I think your record is good because you are reliable and can sort crap from gold. There's something to be said for that.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/18 18:34:20


Post by: pretre


Massive updates.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/18 23:00:02


Post by: Accolade


Thanks as always for the hard work, it is greatly appreciated.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/20 17:04:51


Post by: angryboy2k


 pretre wrote:


Stickmonkey - Total rumors: (159 TRUE) / (332 FALSE) / (51 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Eldar Rumors - Harlequin rumors - Nov 2013
via Stickmonkey on Faeit 212
My info is from a while ago, so obviously it may have changed a lot, but it ties into what you mentioned about a Harlequin codex. I had info that there was a 10-man plastic box of harlequins being designed to be released I assumed with the next DE book. PARTIALLY TRUE
The design parameters included the standard options, but the box was also to have bits for a troupe master and solitaire. FALSE
Separate from this was plastic blister death jester. FALSE
There was also a rumor heard that one designer was working on a harlequin jetbike as a pet project following the new DE jetbike asthetic. FALSE

Does any of this hold water, no idea. It?s been about 9 months, and I?ve heard nothing more on it, so I don?t know. Probably needs lots of salt, but if we consider the possibility of Harlequins getting a standalone ally dex?maybe there is more to this? FALSE


Does this need updating? Seems to me Stickmonkey was right or partially right about all this. Solitaire is out, new death jester is out next week, the jetbike was true...


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/02/20 17:08:19


Post by: pretre


Updating now!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/03/17 14:51:16


Post by: pretre


Added a number of rumors.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/03/18 16:03:24


Post by: pretre


Massive updates. Changed the way I handled PENDING rumors so as to make my job easier in the future.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/03/18 19:11:15


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Uhh... you added me? I'm no more a Rumour Monger than I am a Wrathmonger.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/03/18 19:11:48


Post by: pretre


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Uhh... you added me? I'm no more a Rumour Monger than I am a Wrathmonger.

But you posted 'new' rumors?


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/03/24 15:38:23


Post by: Warhams-77


A new rumor post from WhispererofTruth

 WhispererofTruth wrote:
A new space marine assault squad has been sculpted, no idea on the release date but I'm guessing it will be alongside the next SM dex.

Next two campaign boxed sets, in no particular order, are:

Dark Angels vs Chaos
Raven Guard vs Tau

One will release this year, the other at the turn of the year.

Deathwatch supplement will pop up around the time of the Tau set.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/640125/7693538.page#7693538

I'm quite interested if these and his/her former rumors will be correct.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/03/24 20:19:21


Post by: pretre


Thanks. I'll add that and check the AM rumors tomorrow when I'm in the office.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/03/25 14:07:07


Post by: pretre


Natfka
T 9
PT 1

Vela
T 1

LoW
T 6

Looks like Natfka had some good sources this time. From the looks of it, Vela was way off but we need to wait to see the full extent.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/03/30 15:08:32


Post by: pretre


Updates from this weekend.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/02 02:23:04


Post by: ClockworkZion


Atia on Dakka has been gathering stuff for a while now in terms of the data mining. She's got some Eldar stuff:
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304671-rumours-eldar-codex-craftworlds-jetbikes-avatar/page-3

And probably a lot more.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/02 02:43:09


Post by: pretre


I haven't been counting data mining yet. I'd certainly entertain arguments...


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My thought is that they are basically confirmations and not rumors.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/03 14:16:19


Post by: pretre


Updated some AM rumors. Damn, Larry Vela just makes crap up:

Adeptus Mechanicus Rumors - Feb 2015
via the Birds in the Trees on Bols
The Paper Products
– Codex:Adeptus Mechachanicus Skitarii TRUE
– Heraldry/Hobby book FALSE
– Ad Mech Datacards (contains no psychic power cards) TRUE

The Miniatures
– Ad Mech Skitarii box TRUE
– Ad Mech Myrmidon box FALSE
– Energy weapon platform/ transport box (combo-kit) FALSE
– Legio Cybernetica Colossus/Conqueror box (combo kit) FALSE
– Magos Clampack FALSE
– Secutor Clampack FALSE


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/03 14:53:36


Post by: MasterSlowPoke


It seems generous to even give him Skitarrii.

 pretre wrote:
I haven't been counting data mining yet. I'd certainly entertain arguments...


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My thought is that they are basically confirmations and not rumors.


Yeah, anything that can be instantly verified doesn't need tracking.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/03 15:07:17


Post by: Accolade


Haha, yeah, all of his TRUEs were so obviously going to happen as to barely be considered good rumors.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/06 13:47:32


Post by: pretre


Okay, updated. I'm out for a week (Vegas!) so may be slow in updating.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/06 14:18:05


Post by: MasterSlowPoke


LVO was two months ago!


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/06 17:37:50


Post by: pretre


 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
LVO was two months ago!

Lol yep. I'm going with the wife and friends for non 40k related fun
Feel free to pm any rumors you see and I'll add them when I get back or if I logon this week.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/13 13:56:08


Post by: pretre


Okay, just got back from Vegas. If you see stuff missing that was posted in the last week, let me know.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/14 00:17:22


Post by: Chief Librarian Mephiston


Nightfury needs to have a couple more FALSE notes added to him. He flat out denied the existence of a new Eldar Codex at first, and then backtracked and said that it would be a supplement to the current codex and not a replacement. Both appear to be totally false, so both should be added to his rating. I can provide specific quotes if needed.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/14 01:08:50


Post by: pretre


Check to see f they are in the list already and I'll update them tomorrow.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/14 01:30:18


Post by: Chief Librarian Mephiston


Nightfury states the following:

-Eldar are def next.. I'm still saying its not a redo of the 2yo codex but more of a sideways re-invisioning of the Iyanden book with the other craft worlds expounded upon. Until we really see the book in hand its a lil up in the air but i expect it to work WITH Codex:Eldar rather than replacing it..


So there he's claiming it's a supplement of the current codex rather than a replacement of it. However, what's not quoted in your post are the following quotes (I can provide screenshots for all of them):

BOOM!!! This is the last time i will comment on this..nothing i have seen or heard lends credence to a rehash or redo of any of the already released core codexes.. will will see "codex" supplements possibly a saim hain or iyandel like eldar book.. possibly a space marine clan ruaaken like sub chapter supplement or such.. very likely tied to a campaign . Kiist like the tyranid releases we saw before Christmas we will get splash release models for all core army books


First of all.. the SM codex from last year was written and developed at the same time the 7th editiin was being put together same as all the hardcover codex's that were released last year.. though they do not retain the same format as those released after the 7th drop they are considered by GW to be in essence 7th ed codex and will receive only minor updates or additions via dataslates.. do not expect any complete re-dos until 2017 or there after. i have seen nor heard anything to the contrary.

In fact i was specifically told that the "core" army books are considered "done" and the focus over the next 18 months will be sub faction supplements and a general focus on splash releases for all armies with "an emphasis on campaigns". No new eldar or SM codex coming for quite awhile, sorry.


Total bs.. no new codexs.. supplements sure but cor 'dex's are "done" for the forseeable future. i seriously laughed my beer out when i read this.. if it somehow in a tzeenchian way webtastically weaved way turned true ill eat my words but i wouldn't put any bets on it. my girls knows what's up and shed tell me if i had wasted my $ 6months ago on the SM dex i bought.


There is no new SM codex to be released this or next year


Lmao there's no SM codex being released this or next summer even


I call shennanigans.. no new eldar dex for a long time to be sure


Direct quotes all.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/14 02:05:26


Post by: pretre


Cool. I'll look at the list and see if I need to dig up links tomorrow.


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I don't have these three in the list, but they are repeats:

Total bs.. no new codexs.. supplements sure but cor 'dex's are "done" for the forseeable future. i seriously laughed my beer out when i read this.. if it somehow in a tzeenchian way webtastically weaved way turned true ill eat my words but i wouldn't put any bets on it. my girls knows what's up and shed tell me if i had wasted my $ 6months ago on the SM dex i bought.


There is no new SM codex to be released this or next year


Lmao there's no SM codex being released this or next summer even


I call shennanigans.. no new eldar dex for a long time to be sure


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He got two falses though.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/15 02:34:43


Post by: Chief Librarian Mephiston


Of course. I just thought I'd share how vociferous he was about the idea of there not being any new codex updates, period, for at least two years. He shot down the idea of both a Codex: Eldar update (He was even more strident than the quote in the OP, as at first he said no new Eldar book, period, but then walked it back to his new claim that it's a supplement and not a new codex) and Codex: Space Marines update, and now it looks like we're less than a month away from at least a Codex: Eldar update.

According to him in one of the above quotes, not a single codex will be updated between now and 2017. So that's a False for every time an updated codex does appear between now and then. Lords of War Gaming have rumored an Eldar, Space Marines, and Tau Empire redo within this year, so that's three potential False's right there. We'll know for sure on the first one by the end of this week or next week, it appears, as that's when Codex Eldar: Craftworlds goes on sale.

He also should have a Partially True on Deathstorm. He said there'd be a Tactical Squad in it, but there wasn't.


Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking @ 2015/04/16 14:42:46


Post by: pretre


Updated a lot of stuff.