Throwback Thursday didnt sound as good so welcome to Flashback Friday.
Each week we'll do a Flashback into the mists of time showcasing some older game systems/models/wargames/projects/publications etc.
Feel free to post a flashback of your own - but only on a Friday!
Today we begin with a look back at some classic GW models. Classic by the way cna have various connotations on this one.....
Oh yes, we begin with these.....classics.
Personally I love the models, they're very characterful and havent aged that badly imho. I know they get a lot of hate but have a definite soft spot with me. So much so I updated and integrated them into my Nids
Next up we have an old 2nd edition Space Wolf Terminator armed with a potent Cyclone missile launcher. Definitely need to dedust this guy though.....
Anyone remember these old guys? Cadian shock troopers but in monopose metal form.
I also redid them for my Imp Guard army under the guise of Mordian Iron Guard.
Next up is the original Bjorn the Space Wolf Dreadnought. Fully metal, weighs a serious bit I can tell you. I need to actually finish him off with a few more pack markings etc.
Yes its the original Ork Dreadnought. Iirc there were two version of this guy, one had longer legs and stood noticably taller. Again all metal, heavy but strangely compelling.
Unfortunately these guys are in my mates house but I have about 10 of them. I intend to counts as them as bikers once I get them back. Really used to love these guys in 2nd ed.
The old 2nd ed Carnifex, another metal monster.
And a comparison shot with his younger brother:
And we finish off with an old 2nd ed Rhino. Another dedusting needed.....
Next week I hope to showcase the old boardgame Heroquest.
Feel free to post some flashbacks too
Tell me, how does the old Rhino compare with the new one size wise? Prefer the look, but would rather shark ebAy for a few than pay for the FW Deimos pattern!
Humph, saving up for Deimos pattern it is then. Have two of the new style for a list, need another two. The size difference is a bit too much for them to look right alongside one another.
Owned the old style back when they were just Rhinos, but never seen them side by side, so many thanks for that!
I have some items that I'd love to share in here and will get some pictures up later tonight.
The old "screamer" Carnifex brings back really fond memories. If I ever built a Tyrannid force one of those models would be included for sure. I love the face on that guy.
here are a couple from the 80's that i dusted off recently...
i love the old Fantasy figs...
it is amazing how the quality still stands out after 30 years...
back when Wood Elves were more Celtic looking, and had pets!!!
the glory days of the Realms of Chaos...
i'll have to dig out some of the old Orcs, and the awesome Marauder Dwarfs, for next week...
Some of my old Orks. The megaphone Runtherds is still one of my favourite models. One day I'll get around to converting a new one to bring him up to size with the newer Orks (my current Runtherds are all based off Nobs).
Excellent thread. Proper Oldhammer style! I remember owning at some time pretty much most of what you listed. Most got sold in various ebay sales over the years however, which I kind of regret now especially the painted pieces Ahhh, if I could only track them down
I have to ask, what happened to that old landraider?
Oh, I'm feeling old now considering I remember many of those things NIB. Not to mention either playing against them or using them. Love the old Battletech stuff. Almost wish I hadn't sold mine but the money was too good to pass up.
As much as I grouse about GeeDub I do have many fond memories, especially getting the new Rhino, assembling it, painting it, and using in battle for the first time. Oh - and love me some classic beakies!
I have to ask, what happened to that old landraider?
Meltagun
Left on the back shelf of my car on a hot summer day. I’m not sure how hot it got, or what the melting point of the plastic is, or if the back window lensed the sunlight into a deathbeam, but I do know it was enough to get the job done.
I have to ask, what happened to that old landraider?
Meltagun
Left on the back shelf of my car on a hot summer day. I’m not sure how hot it got, or what the melting point of the plastic is, or if the back window lensed the sunlight into a deathbeam, but I do know it was enough to get the job done.
Dang and that kit was pretty dense plastic. I was working with some of the original Space Marines a month ago and that plastic doesn't really even like plastic glue. I wish I had my old Land Raiders. Two to a kit.
Here are some Battletech items from my collection.
Citytech:
Citytech was my first war gaming purchase as a young boy of 10 and to this day remains one of my favorite gaming products. A few years back I sought out as pristine a copy as I could find of the game and keep it on display in my hobby room,
Here is the front of the box. Although the rampaging Archer is presented much, much larger than `Mechs were stated to be in the canon, it is a glorious image that really captured my young imagination. I still get excited seeing the immense size of the `Mech barreling through a cityscape.
And here is the back of the box. I love how immersive the back is, giving the reader some fluff, an amazing image of an even larger `Mech (Stalker) barreling through a building, and the in-universe descriptions of the various gaming systems (Battletech, Citytech, Aerotech) presenting those games as real disciplines of martial study. Absolutely fantastic!
Here are some really rare Battletech miniatures still sealed in their blister packs.
For those unfamiliar with Battletech's tumultuous production history, these miniatures are known as the "Battledroid" variants of the familiar "unseen" Shadowhawk and Griffin `Mechs. They are referred to as "Battledroid" variants because the 1st edition of Battletech was actually called Battledroids, but a bearded fellow by the name of George Lucas put the kibosh on that, and the name was changed to Battletech for the second printing of the game. The initial release of miniatures for Battledroids came out in 1985 and consisted of a mix of original and licensed `Mech designs. With the game's name change the line of miniatures was resculpted resulting in the more common unseen miniatures that are sought after by grognards like me. Of the few licensed `Mech designs that were produced both in the original line and the revamped line, there were major differences in the size and details of the miniatures. The Battledroid variants tended to be larger, less detailed, and had bulbous proportions and often oddly posed limbs. The later miniatures were scaled better, had much more detail and were smaller than their predecessors.
Battledroid Shadowhawk and Griffin:
Later run, "unseen" Shadowhawk and Griffin:
These photos are not mine, but show the Battledroid variants assembled.
nice!!!
Citytech is still my favorite game cover ever...
man that fired up my imagination as a kid...
i never did buy the Battledroid minis, but i did buy the original, bigger, plastic Japanese kits of those models from my local comic shop at that time...
the one on the right, with the round head, brings back a lot of memories...
i used to love hitting every curve and driveway on my BMX bike as i rode to the shop, and then coming home with the original TMNT graphic novels, and awesome Japanese mecha kits...
good times!!!
OMG I love old models! Cant wait for the day I can pop into an LGS with the current space marines, turn to a snot nosed grotling and go "Son, these models are older then you, treat them with respect!"
Those old models are so bad....in my opinion anyways haha I mean back in the day they were probably good but comparing it to the new stuff makes them look so bad. The tyranids are definitely the worst.
I don't really have anything to old maybe a dark eldar jetbike from early 2000s and that's it I think. Most of my lord of the rings stuff is still in circulation.
I've been doing a retro Ultramarines project over the last year or so, and also added some retro Cadians for good measure. I know it isn't a Friday anymore, but I didn't see this thread til today and it's right up my alley! Here's some highlights:
SRM, i built that Whirlwind using the square Fantasy Battle base, too...
i think i was the only one i built, out of all the plans they printed in White Dwarf...
1991 was a good year...
that was the year that they printed the full rules for Confrontation (the original Necromunda) in two issues of WD...
i still have a bunch of those original minis...
i'll have to bust them out, and snap some pics...
keep up the good work...
it's cool to see some retro minis get some love...
Lead Shadow Hawk from the late 80s, dwarf hero Damian burrock ( I think) and a figure from a old GW fantasy board game. I used him a a coach for my blood bowl team. This little guy was actually in te GW logo on te magazines in the early 90s.
Mk 6 beakys, from 91, back when you could get 3 marines in a blister for less than $5, and a Furbindus dreadnought with a assault cannon modification using an old eldar scatter laser. All these are lead as well.
UM: Xenos invasion fleet detected! Man the orbital defense cannons.
BA: By the Throne, this device is ancient. It must pre-date the dark age of technology.
UM: No time for techo-archeology, they have initiated evasive maneuvers!
So for today’s Flashback Friday, I bring you two RT marines on an Atari 2600. If I were to flash back any farther, I’d have to send you sepia toned pictures via carrier pigeon.
I forgot my copy of Heroquest is in my friends house which is a kick in the.
So instead I rooted out this guy, lets have a look inside.....
This book came with the 2nd ed 40k box set. The box contained three main books - the rulebook, this book which outlined wargear and a background book titled Codex Imperialis iirc. It also had a small publication which outlined army lists including one for Genestealer Hybrids and Squats!
Wow.
Heres the inside credits page, is Priestly still with GW? Never hear of him anymore.
There was some really cool artwork in the book, some by Blanche.
Here is the contents page, well laid out to be fair and quite comprehensive, it covered everything from assault cannons to exo armor
The now infamous 2nd ed Virus grenade. It was a true Ork killer. There was also a set of cards called wargear cards which were basically special events and one was called Virus outbreak. It effectively could wipe an Ork army in turn 1!
It also had some cool battlescapes to get you inspired. My friend hadnt got that many models so he used to literally take these pics and roll out the possible outcomes using dice.
I wont upload anymore pics as Im unsure of Dakkas copyright policy and we all know what Gw be like. But if the mods are ok I'll post a few more next week and maybe some from the other books in the box.
Have a good Flashback Friday everyone!
We're back once again like renegade masters, d4 damagers, power to the people, back once again.....
I didnt make it over to my mates house to get Heroquest but I did root out these guys. They were empty however, not even a single Orc inside
Kellars keep original box and artwork. I cant remember when I started playing this, I think I was about 10, was definitely playing it in 1990 at age 11 since I remember being on holidays playing it
Back of Kellars Keep box. In it you got Orcs, a couple of goblins and yes those are Fimir. Woah.
Look at this guy!
Return of the Witch Lord had by far the most evocative cover artwork in the expansions. Absolutely great stuff.
I do recall though, that it wasnt the best expansion, it was a bit boring and empty from what I recall and the end fight wasnt great
Even back then skulls were all the rage.....
I also rooted out these guys who were hiding under my bed. Genestealer cultist with heavy weapon, Genestealer from Space Hulk 1st ed and two Genestealer cultist Magos.
Ok, some of the sculpts definitely have improved
And we end with a fallen but not forgotten warrior (tank those 7ed wounds kiddo!).
I think I mentioned it upthread: sunny day, hot car. Overall, most of my old stuff has weathered the years rather well, the LR being one of the counter examples. And on the topic of old stuff, here are some RT orks:
I think the pirate guy might be actual lead. I remember when cleaning flash off him how soft he was. This was years after most actual lead minis were off the market, so it was quite the shock how much the file took off in one swipe.
Remember kids: Don’t lick the old minis! You will end up as crazy as us old timers.
My oldest models are probably these old metal Scouts. I love them, they're far better than the plastic kit. I have around 7 of the Snipers, a Heavy Bolter, a Missile launcher, 4 with boltguns 3 with shotguns and one Sgt with chainsword. I run a big squad of 8+ snipers lead by Telion, and MSU's of 5 man Scout squads.
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Also have Gaunt's Ghosts, minus the plasma gunner.
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*the images are from Google for illustration, these aren't mine.
Kellars keep original box and artwork. I cant remember when I started playing this, I think I was about 10, was definitely playing it in 1990 at age 11 since I remember being on holidays playing it
Oh man, I always loved the Bloodthirster Gargoyle that came with Hero Quest.
My oldest 40K model is the Guardian on the right with the sword(not my pic):
However, my oldestGW model is a couple of the old metal Skink archers.
Edit: Technically, I have a fairly sizable amount of RT and WHFB 3rd models, but I bought them off the internet during the late 90's and early 2000's, so I was only counting those I'd bought new first hand.
We have one of those and the patriarch on a throne. We bought almost all the RT terminators when I was young as they all had rules in Space Hulk. I sold a lot of stuff off over the years but a few things I kept were particularly nice. Somewhere at home there are about 40 all different metal RT marines.
Forgotmytea wrote: Anyone else remember the old Ork Tinboyz? I still maintain that they were a great idea
-Ben
Remember them?
I fielded them as a small unit of nobs with eavy armor, cybork bodies, shootas, and power klaws! I have to re-work how to field them under the new codex a bit, but my Bad Moons will always have a unit of tinboyz to mock their enemies! Hmmm... maybe deploy them inside the Morkanaut like little robot protectors?
Da Butcha wrote:
I fielded them as a small unit of nobs with eavy armor, cybork bodies, shootas, and power klaws! I have to re-work how to field them under the new codex a bit, but my Bad Moons will always have a unit of tinboyz to mock their enemies! Hmmm... maybe deploy them inside the Morkanaut like little robot protectors?
Do it, that would be awesome!
Easy E wrote:Oh boy. This thread might give me a reason to actually pull out my armies again. They are mostly 1st and 2nd Edition models for Orks and Eldar.
I loved seeing the Tinboyz.
On my list of things to do is get pictures up of all my old stuff. I do little retrospectives in my blog from time to time (and one more), but the odds and ends tend to be forgotten. Like the orks I posted upthread. This thread gives me some motivation to drag the camera out and dust off some fossils. I know I live re-visiting my old stuff, and it’s fun to see what’s hiding in the other dark, dusty corners of Dakka’s collective shelves.
Some of my old IG stuff. The guy with a bolter and a cigar remains one of my favorite sculpts to this day. Pretty fond of the medic next to him as well.
Ah, those pictures from the wargear book! The blood angels the colour of Heinz cream of tomato soup, trudging through forests of polystyrene and card trees (back when you made hobby stuff rather than just buying it) are what got me into 40k back in the 90s.
I also will always love the old 'screamer killer' carnifex
Thank you very much for posting that picture! I have those miniatures still but mine are mostly unpainted or poorly painted. I'm pretty sure they were made in the early 80s because I know I bought those box sets when I was in high school at that time.
Thank you very much for posting that picture! I have those miniatures still but mine are mostly unpainted or poorly painted. I'm pretty sure they were made in the early 80s because I know I bought those box sets when I was in high school at that time.
I think I'll pull mine out and paint it up.
I’ve got more, both poorly painted and raw lead. These were just handy for a photo shoot. I have a number of the old boxes myself, plus a half filled shoebox of minis from that era that I got 3rd hand somewhere along the line. It would be interesting to see how some of these old guys would do with a modern, more skilled, paintjob. While I might not be all that and a bag of chips, my painting these days is just a little better then it was back in the day. That, or I can afford better brushes and more then the starter set of 8 paints.
We're back like a large metal guy entering a police station.
This week we take a peek back at an old White Dwarf I rooted out (dodges Heroquest again until he can find it).
So don those rose tints and lets begin.....
The cover of the WD, issued in July 1994, wow 20 years on. Its a reprint of the 2nd ed Ork Codex cover by the way.
Issue number and code
This was the inside cover, Orks in Epic and Eldar battling BAs in 40k. Inspirational.
Heres the contents pages. 54 pages which isnt a huge amount to be honest but a good variety of games covered and the Blood Bowl tactics and Warhammer artilliary were good.
There was a page displaying some Eldar units which had obviously just gone on sale
And them in the flesh.....
Comparison between old and new WG
This was the back cover image, a suitably atmospheric Vampire arrangement
The 2nd ed Ork Dreadnought also got a one page advert to himself
And finally some 1994 prices
5 WG still expensive enough, circa 20 sterling. But over here in Ireland we had a nasty exchange rate then so who knows how much!
Historical markings time! From left to right, We have a veteran sergeant, a regular sarge, a normal veteran, and a normal trooper. The hazard stripe look was the hallmark of vets back in the day, while the parallel lines in a secondary color set the sarge apart from the squad.
Officers had their own system (and an alt for sergeants)
Thanks for showing off your old minis everyone. In a lot of cases I actually prefer them to the newer ones, especially the Orks and Chaos ones. They just seemed to fit what they were back in the day.
A couple shots of my old stuff.
Rogue Trader error Renegades
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World Eaters
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And quite possibly my favourite model of all time, the Keeper of Secrets
Wow, great find Reds8n. As it says, sure there aren't too many of those around still in their boxes, let alone shrink-wrapped!
I'm tempted by those D&D adventurers that he also has for sale, just because if I ever use them I can then nonchalantly say "yeah, these were painted by Robin Dews"
Out of interest, where did Robin head off to after GW? Was he one of the lot who went to Warlord Games with Rick Priestly and Paul Sawyer?
Out of interest, where did Robin head off to after GW? Was he one of the lot who went to Warlord Games with Rick Priestly and Paul Sawyer?
No.
After WD he was the design studio manager for a few years.
Then he was involved in the (aborted) Warhammer Online with Climax studios.
The he was the Warhammer World general manager and quite key in a lot of areas there, especially Bugmans and the like.
The he was head of GW Spain for a few years, before heading back.
Then.... think we're talking a round 2011/12 he did another project or two for Gw before leaving, now he's a managament coach/trainer kind of thing -- outside expert.
Did a MBA -- business something or other ..? -- sometime as well.
Met him once or twice over the years, always very cool
As I’ve already posted my half melted LR in this thread, I’ll go for something related:
The transfer sheet that came in the box (do those things go stale?) All in blue. I assume the idea was you put them on your mini and then painted over them. I never did.
And some paint pots from through the ages:
I might be missing a style somewhere along the line. The brazen brass in the middle holds the title of worst pot ever. Once you cracked those open, they dried out in no time flat. The screwtop never set right.
Nevelon wrote: Original LRs and paint the theme for the week?
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As I’ve already posted my half melted LR in this thread, I’ll go for something related:
The transfer sheet that came in the box (do those things go stale?) All in blue. I assume the idea was you put them on your mini and then painted over them. I never did.
And some paint pots from through the ages:
I might be missing a style somewhere along the line. The brazen brass in the middle holds the title of worst pot ever. Once you cracked those open, they dried out in no time flat. The screwtop never set right.
Gotta agree with you on that, thought the glistening green ones were when i first started and was painting right outta the pot so they always ended up with a ring of dried paint messing up the seal...
A day late so my apologies but I missed last week due to RL going ons.
So from under my bed this week come these misfits.....
The old Captain Badrukk model, slightly converted to carry an Eldar scatter laser I think it was
My friend did the paint job circa 1995 I think, easily his neastist job!
I must strip him down and rework him, its a cool model, cheeky little face on him.
I was so excited to find this box too, it would add even more Space Hulk Stealers to my Nids.
Unfortunately upon opening it, I was greeted by only these.....some old sprue and BA transfers. Never collect BAs so Im at a loss
An absolute gem emerged next from the dusty darkness. Goofy or what?
Look at the price on this guy. Back then we used Irish Punts as currency so it would have converted across to about 6 quid I think.
Look at the dust layer on this guy, the old metal Azmodai model
And we end with some classic Ork sculpts. Some of them arent actually too bad imo, I might strip them down and add them to Gazzys horde.
It’s almost the weekend, so time to dust off the fossils and grab the camera. With the fuss about some of the BAs being on 32mm bases, I thought I’d show you that it could be worse: You can always tell a witch by her hex base =P
Haha yes, there was also a regular marine with shuriken catapault (here is the 'combat cards' painted version below, bottom right)
holy crap I had a bunch of those when I was in grade 7...dunno what happened to them
no idea what they were for I just thought they were really cool. If I recall there were terminators.
Im away next Friday but frankly this find is too good to wait
I present to thee: Heroquest.
I must have been about 10 when I got this, I know for a fact I was playing it around 1990 and probably a year or two before that which would add up.
I started with the original game set but it became like an absolute religion and I ended up with Kellars Keep, Witch Lord and return of the Ogre Horde along with the adventure kit design set.
I never got Frozen Throne, or Morcars (?) expansion though :(
Here our trusty adventurers battle through a loot filled dungeon - The Barbarian, Wizard, Elf and Dwarf
The Horrific Gargoyle and Chaos Sorcerer await them (The Gargs wings broke Im afraid but I still have them in the box. Looks a bit like Khorne dosent he? )
Some artwork from the manual. Milton Bradley actually developed this in conjunction with GW. They are only credited from what I can see on the back of the manual.
Advanced Heroquest though was much more akin to the Warhammer world we have now.
The dice. 50% chance to cause a wound (3 skulls), 33% for a hero to defend (two white shields) and 16% for a monster (black shield). You also used standard d6s to move around the board.
Evil monsters. Painting circa 1990. Ye Gods Ratius.
Our 4 heroes
Character development sheets, stickers for use in the dungeon design kit and a homebrew mission I made when I was 10. So cute.
Spell and equipment decks + the character sheets. The mechanic for spells was funny, the Wizard could take up to 3 full decks but once he cast a spell it was used for the game, so you had to be situationally tactical. The Elf player always got left with the dregs
Monster cards
Two basic missions from the original game. The teleporting idea was fantastic. The rule set was so simple it allowed for you to create much crazier and interesting scenarios. Genius stuff.
An undead quarter
The ogre quarter, the little bits of scnery were absolutely brilliant touches and you could easily make quests/objectives around them.
Probably my favourite game of all time. Hope you enjoyed seeing it again.
Glad you finally got those HQ pictures up, or I was getting ready to steal the idea from you. Still love breaking that one out for the gaming group every now and then.
Personally I love the models, they're very characterful and havent aged that badly imho. I know they get a lot of hate but have a definite soft spot with me. So much so I updated and integrated them into my Nids
You are not the only one... Updated with modern tails, weapons and arms, and lots of magnets.
Also updated a few of the earlier metal versions of the figs:
I though I wouldn't be flashing back an awful long way with these, but it it will be 14 years next year which still means many members on here were barely out of nappies when released. Shocking how time flies.
I've accumulated a reasonable amount of stuff over the years, can't be too fussy on the quality, I'm always prepared to strip paint off old figures. I also have a Tyrus and Eisenhorn painted at home, and two Kroot variants being stripped, and some other bits put away else where. I'm currently working on a DKoK conversion in 54mm.
I thought I had a decent knowledge of most of GWs indie games from back in the day.
However I was up in my friends last week and he pulled out this gem which through me for a loop.
Does anyone remember it? Supposedly it was the precursor game to Battlefield Gothic.
The ships were very strange, almost hybrid in their nature and there were loads of tokens and counters to use
To hit you rolled in the lid of the box, which I simply couldnt get my head around
We didnt get to try out a game unfortunately as we were knee deep in Heroquest but hopefully next time.
This and a game called 'Kerrunch!', which was a watered down version of Blood Bowl, both shared the same odd mechanic of flinging dice into the box lid.
Ratius wrote: Delicious! did it work as a mechanic at all? Was it fun?
Can't comment as to its efficacy in Space Fleet as I never played that but it seemed to be a novel enough idea in Kerrunch! Horribly random, of course, but I remember the game being a laugh to play for the eleven year old me. Of course, more discerning gamers would much prefer properly developed mechanics but I think Kerrrunch! was designed as a gateway game into Blood Bowl so was deliberately dumbed down for younger audiences.
There are a couple of extras in white dwarf to support Space Fleet, but it wasn't a game I had. I did have Kerrunch and Space Marine, a simplified version of space hulk. Each player had a team of space marine scouts that would fight each other to recover alien artefacts from the Hulk. There were event cards and things to play, it was quite fun but didn't make sense from a fluff perspective.
The 'roll the dice in the box lid' mechanic was rather random and suffered from the problem that the boxes tend to get a little crushed and dented in storage which means they aren't flat and the dice always roll into the corners which are a miss.
Holy Emperor, is that a heavy bolter the back guy is carrying? How old are they?
I didnt make it to my friends to get pics of his ancient stuff so decided to go through each of my 5 armies and photograph the oldest model from each.
These guys are the earliest 40k models I ever bought. They were sold in a now closed Virgin Megastore in Dublin circa November 1993. I think they cost about 19.99 Irish Punts at the time.
Note the crazy weapon combos, power axe and chainsword? bolt pistol with a knife stuck on it? I had much worse but redid most of them during 2nd ed to make sure each of them had a parrying weapon (force opponent to reroll an attack dice in 2nd ed HTH).
I never collected Eldar when I started 40k, my friend did, so this is his old Maugen Ra. However Im fairly ceratin it was the first model I ever got from him (ended up buying all his Eldar a few years later).
I didnt have time to root out the old plastic Orks from the 2nd ed boxed set. They are my oldest but heres the second oldest Ork model I own. Emperor knows how/when/why I bought it - although the Pulsa in 2nd ed was utterly utterly broken
These were my very first Imp Guard purchases. Old metal Mordian Command Squad. Still great models to this day, very characterful and detailed.
And finally some of Hissys, old crew. These are from Space Crusade (I think!).
Look how thick the paint is applied on most of the models above
Until next week peeps, keep those rose tinted glasses clean.
14 years? Really? It only feels like the other year. Reckon I've been doing this too long.
My Inquisitor's warband didn't feel coherent, but they were some of the best conversions I ever did. His followers were a ratling sniper, a cultist with heavy flamer and a Jakara spyrer. Their opponent was a giant, chainsword wielding, mutated Night Lords chaos space marine. Good times.
The problem we had in Ireland back then was the Punt VS Sterling. And with no stores here we usually had to mail order which was extra money too! Oh the monetary woes of a15 year old wargaming nut.
Have most of the stuff in Howard's pics, except for the Ork bazooka team and the powerboards. Powerboards, they actually made powerboards? Never knew. Scratch built a few for my Harlequins though...
Looking closer, I have never seen the Small Buggy or the Sleazy rider either.
Last weekend one of the guys I was playing against was surprised by the heft of one of my old, metal minis. Which raised the question in my mind, “Can I field an all-metal army?” So I decided to grab all the old lead currently sporting an Ultramarine paint job and see what I had. Not pictured are some of the old hybrid kits, like the old (as in 3rd ed) devastators and the mostly plastic bikes w/half metal riders.
And to answer my own question, I can do a 1,000 point list easy. Footslogging primarily, but some DS and infiltration to help get around. Minis range in age from some old RT ones to the sternguard, which IIRC are from 5th.
To my shame, I no longer have my original egg Sentinels, but a benefit of being old is the ability to have collected a 2nd Ed all metal IG army!
Leaving out vehicles and the plastic heavy weapons with the Praetorians at the back, this is a small portion of the 450 odd figure army that I have spent the last 17 years wasting my money on/ having a grand time with.*
Recently, the ancient dead were brought to my mind, so I thought for this Friday I’d take the camera for a trip through my own old boneyard. I didn’t drag everything out for a photoshoot, but here is a sample:
Skull chucker. I was so irritated when I lost the ability to field these when the VC/TK split happened.
A pair of command elements. The rest of the block of skeletons would be plastic, but the guys in front were metal.
With the exception of a handful of metal ones scattered in with the plastic. These are some of the earliest GW minis I owned, originally bought as foes for D&D.
While I think of the Dogs of War as a new thing, most would consider them quite old. They did have a nice multi-culteral undead unit, so it’s not all human skeletons
Spirit Hosts? Nah, we just fielded blocks of ghosts.
Or wraiths. Nagash+8 wraiths w/standard and musician=1,500 point army, 9 models.
And if wraiths on foot weren’t bad enough, they could be mounted as characters. I found this guy on a trip once, covered in dust at the back of the rack. He was old at the time, and that was back in the 90’s.
And if wraiths on foot weren’t bad enough, they could be mounted as characters. I found this guy on a trip once, covered in dust at the back of the rack. He was old at the time, and that was back in the 90’s.
He wants to lay off the hooch. Dont drink and ride kids.
Wow some old memories flooding back leafing through this thread..
These are some pics already shown in my Marine thread (link in sig) of my original RT onwards marines, still got some more to photograph and post up (loads of heroes all with the sadly nearly extinct back banners!) but here's some for now..
Tack squad led by a guy I got off the cover of WD when 2ed happened.
Other half of Tacks..
Obligatory toothy grin on the Dread.
Devs with pro converted (looted) Ork plasma gun..
New old comparison, my how times have changed..
Nevelon, my friend had all those Undead in his massive (and sadly gone) army, nice to see them again..
It’s Friday again! Here is part two of my undead army. For reference, I played WHFB primarily in 5th edition, The one with the bretonian/lizardman starter box. This was back in the mid/late 90s. The primary theme of my army eventually coalesced into undead bretonians. Lead into battle by the dread Nevelon the Betrayer:
A mounted vampire lord, made for one of the campaign packs, could be fielded as a named character, the Red Duke. This was before the bloodlines stuff.
Leading the Wights of the Realm (unapologetic about the pun)
With some extra help from mounted heroes:
Centaurs used to be a thing. They were a unit in the chaos book, with some very old minis (which I never had) I did kit bash a number for both my undead and chaos armies. Particularly proud of the wight one. The mounted wraith is based on a DE darkrider, with his face dremeled out and a homemade scythe. He drinks a lot less the the one from last week. And before mummies got all uppity and stormed off to their own army book, they could be fielded as heroes. His job was to soak challenges so the vampire could blender units.
Mummies could also be fielded as blocks of troop. They were painfully slow, but crazy tough. Carrion were another thing (besides the skullchuckers) I missed when the split happened. They murdered solo wizards and artillery crews. Giant bats just weren’t the same.
And some necromancers and vampires on foot. The necros hold up well compared to modern sculpts, IMHO. Isabella and Vlad on the other hand, not so much.
Unfortunately, due to a huge sell off 10 years ago, I no longer have much in the way of my original stuff, some as early as '92. Something that I regret.
But I have some left and, along with some re-buys, means I've got some stuff I can share. I repainted these a little while ago:
Epic will always remain my favourite GW system and my collection is large to say the least. Here's an Artillery Company:
So I decided to take on Nevelons challenge of an all metal army and took out my mostly 2nd ed Eldar:
From left to right, Wraithguard, Reapers with Ra, Wraithlords, Warlocks with Avatar, Swooping Hawks, Warp Spiders, Banshees, Firedragons with Exarch and Avengers with Asuryen. I have Jain Zar floating about somewhere too. With wargear they come to about 2k.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Loving the Epic artillary stuff.
Wow, that is awesome!
I remember getting a scout bike, and a few years later, I looked for it and could not find it. I then wrote it off that I got angry and destroyed it, but I would never destroy a GW mini today.
It’s friday, time to grab the cameras and featherdusters! Today I hit the chaos shelf.
Remember when dragon ogres were just large, not comically huge?
I love multi-pose plastics. They let you have a lot of different poses in your army, rather then just the same 4-8 guys over and over again. But single sculpts just have so much more flavor.
Chaos Warrior command:
So much better then just a horn/banner arm included in the kit.
And some HQs. Yes, that's a DE sorceress; might be Morathi. One of the themes in my WoC army was "when Dark Elves go too far”. I’ve got some mounted marauders made with old dark riders, and a group of “when witch elves go bad” made from howling banshees. But I’ll save them for later.
This week’s installment has a bit of conversion work done, but still mostly the old minis they are based on.
Those elder Chaos players who have not yet degenerated into gibbering spawn a/o been elevated to demonhood might recall the old retinue rules for constructing a chaos army. You took a character, and then needed to make them a warband of troops equal to their points. Continue adding these until you reached the point limit. Irritating mechanically, but could lead to some nice fluffy lists. As I mentioned last week, one of the themes in my old chaos army was “when witch elves go bad”. Elves/Eldar and Slannesh, they go so well together. I could have gone with khorne, but screw the psychology rules.
Simple weapon swap, the death boomerang for a big ol’ axe. Suddenly the queen of 80’s hair is cutting a swath through the old world.
With her girls backing her up. They didn’t make chaos warriors with additional handweapons at the time, so I cut off pistols and rattled around my bits box for things to stab with.
Some alternate characters, on old steeds of slannesh. I’m not fond of the boob-snakes/giant slugs things they’ve turned into. The banshee riding side-saddle is a newer sculpt then the ones making up the block of troops. They were in the process of re-sculpting the aspects warriors at the time, some were OK (like the banshees) others not so much (scorpions). It’s worth noting that the guns I cut off the troops were laspistols, which was one of the reasons the like was getting updated. HE dragonknight there on the right, just so you don’t think it’s all about the ladies.
GW didn’t make a chimaera at the time. This one was made by harlequin miniatures. The only reason I know that is I kept the box, which still had the $19.99 price tag on it. Nurgle was my god of choice when I wasn’t serving Slannesh. +1T was alway fun. And converting stuff to the lord of decay was not a hard thing to do for someone with just basic skills.
IIRC (and it was a while ago) the one GW made was not even remotely the right scale for a monster in WHFB. It fit on a calvary base, and had been OOP for years. My time in fantasy was the mid 90’s, while my 40k time started in the late 80s. But any information about a GW chimera was rumors/myths/legends.
Edit:
This the guy you are talking about?
(Page from the ’85 catalog)
For those interested in the olden days, many of the old catalogs can be found over at http://www.solegends.com/citadel/index.htm. And if you are reading this thread, that’s probably you! Also, if you find any errors in what I’m saying, feel free to correct me. Dredging memories up out the the depths of my skull is far from a flawless process, and I never claimed to be infallible. Best to prove my wrong with pictures though
I seem to recall that chimera was on one of the Combat Cards they did around 1990. I had all the sets as it was nice to see the painted miniatures.
I'm a bit late for friday, so here's my contribution, 3rd edition Fantasy. I bought it seond hand for £3 back in the day, and played this until upgrading to 5th edition. What was great was that you got all the rules for the armies in the back so the book really was a complete game. But they hadn't worked out distinct armies or the concept of allies, so in D&D style, all races were described in terms of lawful, good, neutral, evil and chaotic, IIRC. And an army could be made up of things that ally with something that is only one place up or down the scale. So evil things can't ally with things in the same army as good.
There were rules for wacky things like giant snails as a mount but only able to more 2" per turn making them the slowest cavalry and the magic was a lot more laborious. I will always remember the game where we played a siege and the giant uprooted a tree from the terrain and thrashed a castle wall until it fell down. It took so long that the snail riders managed to reach the castle wall and slime up the side of it to begin their prolonged assault.
The colour sections are pretty limited and there's a lot of rules text throughout so isn't especially interesting to photograph. But here's a good spread showing some of the models of the time. The picture on the bottom left accurately shows what a fantasy game looked like in practice. In the background of the bottom right picture is a large flesh coloured figure being used as a giant. I have a couple of these and they were troll in part of an early 54mm scale range of polythene figures that citadel did under the 'Fighting Fantasy' logo, the packets came with a skull shaped blister and figures came with interchangeable weapons and even heads.
Nevelon wrote: And some necromancers and vampires on foot. The necros hold up well compared to modern sculpts, IMHO. Isabella and Vlad on the other hand, not so much.
That vampire model isn't Vlad. It's just a generic vampire lord.
IIRC (and it was a while ago) the one GW made was not even remotely the right scale for a monster in WHFB. It fit on a calvary base, and had been OOP for years. My time in fantasy was the mid 90’s, while my 40k time started in the late 80s. But any information about a GW chimera was rumors/myths/legends.
Edit:
This the guy you are talking about?
(Page from the ’85 catalog)
For those interested in the olden days, many of the old catalogs can be found over at http://www.solegends.com/citadel/index.htm. And if you are reading this thread, that’s probably you! Also, if you find any errors in what I’m saying, feel free to correct me. Dredging memories up out the the depths of my skull is far from a flawless process, and I never claimed to be infallible. Best to prove my wrong with pictures though
That is the one I am thinking of.
They had an earlier one, sculpted by either Bryan Ansell, or one of the Partha Sculptors working for Citadel (Meier and Mize both did some work for Citadel).
But the earlier one was even smaller (goat/panther sized).
Epic will always remain my favourite GW system and my collection is large to say the least. Here's an Artillery Company:
I loved Epic, one of the things that pushed me into the Games Workshop hobby.. They changed the rules set and killed the game... I fear 9th edition Warhammer will be a repeat of this.
Another Flashback for me, with the Harlequin codex coming out, how back in early editions it was normal for new players to pick up the red book compendium and the Harlequin box set and have an complete army cheap.. Seemed like back in the day every other army in the St Louis area was Harlequin. One campaign we played was jokingly called "The Great Harlequin Slaughter of 90"
I've dug out a few old posters on a visit to my parents this week. First is one given out when they released Gorkamorka, mostly it's just artwork and photos that would appear in the rulebooks. Nice at the time though.
This is some 'eavy metal poster, lots of nice old miniatures painted up. I've no idea where this came from.
Last isn't really GW but a spin off from Fighting Fantasy where you'd call up to have an adventure. I've no idea if this ever caught on. Maybe someone here did it at the time?
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Here's another old flyer from way back! How many of these do you have? Look at those prices!
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Then a special flyer only for their Judge Dredd range. To make it more appealing, a few maps are included and the reverse has a full size floorplan for the RPG.
Apart from the Gorkamorka poster, I remember all of that, including the FIST thing.
We called it, got a couple of minutes in, found it dragged on a lot (well, duh), and gave up on it.
How long was it that those were the only Tyranids that existed?
How long was it that those were the only Tyranids that existed?
A fair while. It wasnt until 2nd ed that you could get more Tyranid wise than some metal Gaunts, plastic warriors, plastic genestealersm, the classic 4 claw Carnifex, Zoats and squigs (which at that point were sort of lumped in with Nids and Orks at the same time IIRC). Of course there were the various Genestealer cult figures but the connection between the two was less clear cut (and/or even thought through) at that point. I may have forgotten some.
Skinnereal wrote: Apart from the Gorkamorka poster, I remember all of that, including the FIST thing.
We called it, got a couple of minutes in, found it dragged on a lot (well, duh), and gave up on it.
How long was it that those were the only Tyranids that existed?
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Almost a decade.... Maybe over a decade, if we are not counting Space Hulk.
I had so many of those Termegants (although we wouldn't find out they were called that for that decade).
I remember being in Nottingham, talking to one of the Ric(k)s about the Tyranids, and getting an explanation of where the ammo for their guns comes from.
See... Their guns are living things, which have to be fed in order for them to have the materials to shoot at their enemies.
And it would be inconvenient to have wastes that needed to be cleaned out of their weapons. Soooooooo....
They also showed me a Tyranid Dreadnaught, which ate everything it encountered, and used it for fuel to create everygy blasts to destroy, or disable things at a distance, which it would then go eat....
I don't know how the current Tyranids work (the last I knew about Tyranids was that Space Hulk drove an expansion of them).
We did once use my Termegants in a game of Space Hulk after the additional rules and units came out (after everyone and their dog asked "We the hell don't the SMs in front drop to their knees, or the ones in back shoot over or around the ones in front?").
I don't think the SMs ever won a game of SH we ever played until those new rules and units came out.
Nicky J wrote: I know ts not friday yet, but I'm house sitting for my parents at the moment, and just found this box at the back of a cupboard in my old room!
sadly no miniatures inside
front of box::
back:
(note the dark angel in the bottom right, in black armour not white, or even green!)
I did however find a few other miniatures elsewhere:
metal Squat tech priest:
plastic squat:
metal space marine captain(?)
metal mk2(?) space marine:
...and my personal fav:
blood bowl referee!
(no actual bb players to be found anywhere tho!)
i think 13 year old me could paint better then 30 year old me
Over in this thread there was some talk about RT era assault marines, so I decided to grab a few off the shelf for this week’s FBF.
Nothing says grimdark like a severed head hanging off your belt. That’s not kit-bashed folks, just the Emperor’s finest when they recruited the toughest psychopaths they could find.
Howard A Treesong wrote: It's weird seeing stuff in a nostalgia thread that was made after I stopped playing the game. Has it been so long?
Welcome to getting old. Every Sunday I listen to a reto-rewind show on the radio. I’m shocked and astounded but the “new” stuff they play sometimes. But it’s 2015; anything made in year starting in “19” is ancient history to some folks.
Nicky J wrote: I know ts not friday yet, but I'm house sitting for my parents at the moment, and just found this box at the back of a cupboard in my old room!
sadly no miniatures inside
front of box::
When I came back to 40k, that box was all I had left of the RT/2nd models I sold off.
There were only half the Termies in there, but a couple of librarians and PA sergeants too.
Quite a collection of old stuff you have there bbb.
I have two main armies for WHFB, Chaos and Undead. But they are not the only ones cluttering up the shelf. I also picked up a number of DoW units and a small force of Wood Elves I intended to work up into a full army. Never really got them to a playable point, but some got paint. I think I have a dozen dryads in a box somewhere unpainted.
Waywatchers. These were the cool looking minis that drew me to the army.
Some glade guard. At one point they were the best light calvary in the game. Fast, flexible, and they hit pretty hard.
Warhawk riders. I had a thought of everything being on the wing or made of wood. Odd concept, might have worked.
High Five!
Every time I move this guy I expect him to shatter into a thousand pieces. Barring the base and the wings, he’s metal. Long, sinuous, poorly balanced metal. With tiny connection points.
I have owned nearly everything in this thread at some point. I have virtually nothing left though. I do have nearly 3000 points of 2nd ed guardsmen, most Catachans but also Ogryns, ratlings and various Commissars, Priests and Psykers.
Its a shame that 40K is no where near the game that it used to be.
(Why is is pictures always look fine on the camera, fine when I upload them, but blurry when I post them. Sigh)
Some Dogs of War for your Friday viewing pleasure. Somewhere in a box in the back of my paint bench there is the rest of the pikemen and dwarf slayer/pirates waiting for paint. Always waiting. Borgio the besieger and Ms. Belladonna saw a lot of use in my chaos a/o undead armies as a chaos hero/vampire and sorceress respectively. Don’t think I actually fielded the galloper gun. Fun collection of models though.
Miss Necromunda i really wish they would do a special edition of it with a rules update so it's not as fiddly as the old game.
Was talking in my local GW recently looking at newer Skaven models much better than the old ones i had in my early teens when i played WFB and they have plenty of possibilities for weapons and poses. Recall having a ton of these guys. They came in boxes that cost £5 at the time i think you got maybe 6 in a box. Same pose and you only glue a shield on if you want it there and that's all. If anything at least the model quality and options got better XD.
Ratius wrote:Bah! Nothing prepared for this week. GJ Neve!
The girl is definitely infocus as is the guy to her right. Just lacking a full depth of field in the shot I think. What camera is it?
Canon Powershot S95. Learning to take better pictures is constantly on my things-to-do list. It doesn’t help that this was a
"Hey it’s Friday, I should grab a picture” rather then a formal photoshoot.
bbb wrote:Nice Wood Elves, Old White Dwarf and DoW!
Here's some Necromunda models:
I never got into Necromunda. Lots of cool minis though, don’t think I’ve seen those before.
SpookyBoogie wrote:Miss Necromunda i really wish they would do a special edition of it with a rules update so it's not as fiddly as the old game.
Was talking in my local GW recently looking at newer Skaven models much better than the old ones i had in my early teens when i played WFB and they have plenty of possibilities for weapons and poses. Recall having a ton of these guys. They came in boxes that cost £5 at the time i think you got maybe 6 in a box. Same pose and you only glue a shield on if you want it there and that's all. If anything at least the model quality and options got better XD.
I think most of the armies at the time had the one box of mono-pose plastic to help fill out your army. I was lucky as an Undead player that our filler box was multi-part posable plastics. But most armies had a front row of metal, and then a block of the same guy filling up the ranks. Or for those units that were different enough that you couldn’t use the plastic, a wallet breaking wall of lead.
The Chaos codex was a truly great tome. The stories of the legions and primarchs, the 'eavy metal section that was rammed full of conversions, bonkers rules and then cultists thrown in because they felt like it. I'm feeling a bit sad that we'll never see its like again.
The original Assassins for 2nd edition was a £5 codex. The much thinner one for 3rd was a WD freebie.
When 2nd went out I got a few codicies cheap, Assassins for £1 and Sisters for £2. Sisters stuff was cheap, when GW actually did sales the bins were often full of the SoB special characters like Kyrinov.
Some of my old stuff is for projects I never got around to, like the steed of slanesh and the wraithguard. But a bulk of my old blisters are from when an old FLGS went out of business. The dusty junk from the back of the shelves that was going to be too much effort to try to move was given away. Got a big box myself.
Mostly Clan Wars, but a large assortment of old, dead games and companies. Actually, looking at those Warzone guys, they’d make halfway decent SM scouts with a little work...
Some models were still 25 pence a go when I started out many moons ago.
Those Plague Marines to me are "new" models. I remember when there was A plague marine and that was your lot. Also when all this was fields, kids were polite back then, arent police men looking young these days....*incoherent rambling*
OK Grandad, back in your chair, you're upsetting the other residents.
bbb wrote: When I started in the mid-90s I remember you could get a blister of two metal models for around $6.
Figures used to be 95¢ a piece in the 1980's. I remember when Ral Partha figures jumped from $5.95 for a blister of six models to $7.95 and then $9.95 (but by then I no longer had to buy miniatures, which was a relief).
Eventually, the miniatures business is doomed, as by the mid-20's, 3D printing will have ended their ability to make money selling the miniatures themselves.
They might be able to make money selling the files of 3D models to be printed (using a proprietary 3D Printing format and Application to print the models to reduce the ability to pirate the figures - futile as that might be), but odds are likely that the best they can hope for is to sell a single download of a 3D model that can then be printed how ever many times the user wishes.
Also, this will radically change figure painting, as already, using Mudbox, I can paint a 3D model that is indistinguishable from a real-life figure/person, and color 3D printing is improving just as quickly as regular single-media 3D printing. Anyone, from children painting their first figures, will be able to stay within the lines, and do complex shading with the click of a mouse (in Mudbox, it is the "Apply Ambient Occlusion" filter, which can then be baked into the textures being applied).
You can even do things like apply a glow from an energy sword by adding a colored light to the scene and then baking it into the texture.
People who are just starting out miniature painting now in their teens will have a completely new world waiting for them in their 20's in the 20's.
MB
Automatically Appended Next Post: I miss my early White Dwarf magazines.
I had every issue from issue #1 to around whatever it was in 1993, when I couldn't afford to renew my subscription to WD due to the injuries from work in 1990.
And damn did those earlier issues have some awesome stuff in them.
MB
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And I had all of the White Dwarves (the miniatures) that were made up to around 1997. I can't recall how many there were, but the first one remains my favorite - but I know that is what is In that box.
And I had all of the White Dwarves (the miniatures) that were made up to around 1997. I can't recall how many there were, but the first one remains my favorite - but I know that is what is In that box.
Spoiler:
Not quite. It was The White Dwarf being carried by Josef Bugman and Gotrek as his shieldbearers. Once upon a time I had to gold statue version of this that I won in my local GW's raffle.
Im away tomorrow so in anticipation of that Friday feeling.....
We go oldschool Orks
Boarboyz
Any idea the era of this trukk? Was it 3rd?
Runtherd, Nazdreg, old metal loota, Goff Nob
Note the 2nd ed marine missile launcher hacked onto the guy on the right. I didnt have the money back in 1995 to mail order flash gits (no GW store in Ireland) so this was my attempt.....
You didn’t used to get them in plastic with a guardian squad. The red one on the left dates back to 3rd, IIRC, and the other guys are older, RT for both, might be wrong on that. Scatter laser, missile launcher, and either a lascannon or a distort cannon, not sure on the last. I’ve got a selection of metal guns for the “new” one, but they are not painted and look very close to the modern versions.
After seeing this refered to earlier in the thread, i thought it was finally time to join after being a long time lurker. The old metal ork attack buggy:
mekkiah wrote:After seeing this refered to earlier in the thread, i thought it was finally time to join after being a long time lurker.
And finally an old box of space orks:
with some of them even still on the sprue:
Welcome to Dakka. I’ve got that box of orks partially assembled on the back of my workbench. All off the sprue though.
Ratius wrote:Another glorious day in the Corp. A day in the Corp is like a day on the farm.....
I actually dont know what these guys are or from what edition. Im guessing 3rd edition catachans?
Various warhammer Undead/vampires. Never played that much fantasy. Anyone any idea of which edition these are?
If those catachans are plastic, that should put them at 3rd.
Your Undead has stuff that I recognize as “new” but remember releasing, so that should put it in the 5th-6th edition range, or later. Are those metal zombies in red up front? Those and the skeleton horsemen are old. I see ghost swarms, which happened after the split into TK/VC. The “new” wights released sometime in the middle of when I was playing, I’d have to dig for a specific date. If you get some better shots we could try to narrow it down.
Now I need to find something to add to this thread myself.
I can, at the very least, spot the Imperial Firebase, a bridge from Necromunda, and the Eldar... thing... that came in the cardboard section of White Dwarf.
Spend enough time eating warpstone, next thing you know you don’t fit on your tiny little base anymore. Just ask Nagash.
As for the names/classes of my ships, I’d have to dig out the rulebook and look. I know the big guy is a battleship with the mark of nurgle, done with some greenstuff and a few spare nurglings.
Here's one of my two ancient beaky Space Marines. Love the detail on these old models, obviously a completely different style to the latest stuff, but great none the less.
OK, looking at the pics, It’s not the Terminus Est, but just a Despoiler class battleship with the mark of nurgle. I didn’t realize they made a custom nurgle ship; I just marked up a basic one. Close ups show a lack of the sculpted mark on the prow, or the spine along the top.
I could see how they could be confused from the blurry long shots.
I can, at the very least, spot the Imperial Firebase, a bridge from Necromunda, and the Eldar... thing... that came in the cardboard section of White Dwarf.
I miss BFG. I already had Imperial, Space Marine, and Necron fleets (and my Ramilies). And then I went a little crazy during the great Specialist Games Sell Off and bought Eldar, Chaos, and AdMech fleets. I could probably sell it all on Ebay and get back about 3 times what I paid for it.
The correct answers is yes, i bought the box with 3 rhinos and a box with 2 landraiders very cheaply i remember buying and eldar complete squad of 12 metal miniatures for 18 Dutch guilders or around 9 euro's now. The most boxed sets were 54 guilders the for 36 plastic orks or 8 metal terminators
BFG was not the only miniatures game to bring war to the inky depths of space. Silent Death, from I.C.E. was another quite good one. While it is more geared for fighter combat, it handled large fights well, and did include rules for capital ships. Here are some of them:
I’d drag out the swarms of fighters for a photoshoot, but they are packed away better then the big guys. Maybe next week.
Some of the new sculpted banners look awesome. No need for pesky freehand work. But GW used to offer another option: Sticker banners. Some were free with box sets, others were purchased separately (the chaos ones below were IIRC) While most of my Ultramarine ones are in use, here are some extras I have cluttering up the place:
It's a D-cannon or "Distort cannon" (it had both names). The lascannon was different and used the same mount as the missile and scatter laser. the D-cannon and mount were different again.
Excellent stuff. Remember my own army of those models. Flogged them off probably about ten years ago...
... idiot.
In fact, I've sold off a lot of painted models over the years that I've later regretted. Though I wouldn't know where to start if I wanted to track them down.
Ratius wrote: Never sell the classics, they need more love than most :(
I was a lot younger then and thought "Time to get rid of these foolish man-dolls. I won't pull any women with these lingering around"
Thinking I may go through some of my early eBay feedback and grovel to any buyers still registered "Err, you don't know me, but about 15 years ago I sold you some painted models..." I think some may have even been sold some off on Bartertown, pre-forum days. Chances are the models have been binned, stripped or stored, long forgotten.
And he’s not the oldest thing I have waiting for paint. Or even primed and waiting. Some people have a pile of shame: grey plastic, still on the sprue. I’ve got a shoebox full of lead. Mostly real lead too, none of these fancy “safe” alloys.
And he’s not the oldest thing I have waiting for paint. Or even primed and waiting. Some people have a pile of shame: grey plastic, still on the sprue. I’ve got a shoebox full of lead. Mostly real lead too, none of these fancy “safe” alloys.
(I’ve also got a pile of grey sprues, to be fair)
Haha, the lead pile of shame. We've all got one of those to some extent:
That was taken a few years ago. It's grown, but only 3 things in that pile have been painted and that's just the Imperial Guard...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Here's a shelf with books that have been sitting at my parents' house for over a decade that I'm finally working on getting out of there.
I'm getting ready to base and paint my old Rogue Trader solitaire and use him in my Harlequin army. He is armed with Harlequin kiss and uh...las pistol
I can't afford too much with GW's prices today so I'm pressing him into service. He'll be better though as he isn't on top of a rock so he'll be harder to draw LOS to.
I grabbed this guy and a handful of other minis from a thrift store many years back. Best .50 cents I ever spent
They total a signifcantly less auspicious amount today.....
+++ New Roster (845pts) +++
++ Dark Angels: Codex (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++
+ HQ +
Company Master
····Power Armour [Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Infantry, Power Sword]
+ Elites +
Deathwing Terminator Squad [4x Deathwing Terminators, Heavy Flamer, Power Fist, Storm Bolter]
····Deathwing Terminator Sgt [Storm Bolter and Power Sword]
Wowee. Oh boy, Im trying to recall my 2nd ed rules and figure out who would win this one.
Combat the Marines definitely have the edge, that Chaplain and Captain will potentially carve through a tonne of IG.
Not to mention if the Libby gets something like the Gate, Ironarm or Vortex.
But the IG armor and firepower is impressive.
Good times. I can't even imagine the amount of Datafax rolling you had to do for that game. It was bad enough with a bike squadron of 5. When one got shot it inevitably went out of control, collided with another which went out of control and exploded. Another ended up flipping upside down and exploding. Glorious! It was just carnage
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Ratius wrote: Wowee. Oh boy, Im trying to recall my 2nd ed rules and figure out who would win this one. Combat the Marines definitely have the edge, that Chaplain and Captain will potentially carve through a tonne of IG. Not to mention if the Libby gets something like the Gate, Ironarm or Vortex. But the IG armor and firepower is impressive.
Disappointed that they didn't at least field one of the classic land raiders. Though, I used to love looking at Kim Syberg's Space Wolves which included the classic Rapier and Tarantula (They're hidden on the hill on the left)
Marines. Lord Varlak (I think) was multi-meltaed by a land speeder along with several Ogryns (yes, the old Multi-Melta had a nasty 2" blast!)
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This was, and still is, one of the best battle reports you'll ever read. White Dwarf 154, Squats V Orks, was the best in my opinion with this one a very close 2nd. I couldn't find any WD 154 scans unfortunately. I may have to do WD review one day. Perhaps for a milestone post at some point. And here's my homage to that battle report:
I remember they had a specific caveat mentioning that model was for Expert Modellers Only and it involved advanced techniques. After assembling one of their metal Land Speeders I always felt sorry for anyone who bought one of those.
Awesome that thunderhawk, there was one chap that used to bring one to my local GW back in the day, I went three weeks on the trot and each time I saw it, he was in the process of "fixing it", I swear he was putting a wing back on or securing some such part non stop I reckon !!
YEP! All metal. My old boss used to have one at the store I worked at and it was really cool to look at. It wasn't assembled, but it came in a cool wooden box.
Wow... metal Thunderhawk. Most impressive. I remember when they first showed them off, and the big "Entire Ultramarines Chapter" they did for that one Games Day in the UK. That army had three of those Thunderhawks.
zedmeister wrote:Marines. Lord Varlak (I think) was multi-meltaed by a land speeder along with several Ogryns (yes, the old Multi-Melta had a nasty 2" blast!)
It was one hell of a battle, a prettty iconic battle report IMO, one of the things that sucked me into the hobby. Damn White Dwarf used to be good.
The best part was the 5 Deathwing Terminators who took on an entire flank by themselves, ripping up three Russes in close combat.
@General Kroll: Hehe, yeah me too! I knew back then I wanted it, but I knew I'd never have the money nor did I have the know-how to actually build it. Fast forward fifteen years or so and I decided it was now or never to take the plunge into getting one before they became insanely rare and expensive.
@SlaveToDorkness: Thank you, it only took a month of consistent work! Yeah, I had to do some special things in order to get it the way I wanted!
@Rayvon: Yup, I've heard stories like that before, this kit has so many structural hot spots, and the instructions do give you pointers, but not enough in my opinion. I pinned almost every piece, using 4 different widths of brass rod throughout, and 3 different types of adhesive depending on the amount of stress each join was subjected to. It's all in my thread for anyone who is interested!
@bbb: Yes, great pics, the presentation really gave you the feeling that GW took this kit seriously and wanted whoever bought one to do the same. Funny enough, my kit did not come with a box, and from what I could garner from the previous owners it never did, which means it was probably a prize sample or something.
H.B.M.C. wrote: What about the first ever Apoc Game in WD, before Apoc even existed!
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Isn' that pretty much a typical game of 40K these days?
Yeah. Just eyeballing it, but it smells like a 2000 point game of Space Marines vs IG!
I have about 30 of these dudes sitting in a bag, waiting for some paint, but I don't know what i want to do with them! Mine are still blue plastic, and are just the bolter dudes and missile launcher guys.
I have about 10 of those Kronk, the are going into my Space Wolves
How on Earth did you assemble the TH Helidore, I can only imagine the amount of pinning required. Was a hardcore epoxy needed? Surely regular old superglue fails?
I actually included a squad of old 2nd ed boter huggers in my list a few weeks ago when I fielded the back half of my company. They were my MVPs of the game, erasing a blob of gaunts and killing half a squad of zoanthropes.
They may be old, crappy, mono-pose sculpts, but they got the job done.
One of the first 40K things I bought was a Tactical Squad box with those bolter Marines. Combined with the two that came in the 2nd Ed starter I had a core force of 30 Tac Marines.
That fortress, top left (back) gave my local GW no end of grief back in the day. People kept coming in and asking where to get one (it WASN'T a GW terrain piece to start with).
I told the manager I knew WHERE he could get one (locally) and he swore me to silence on it. It's a German piece, from Ziterdes (it's now OOP and has been replaced by a newer piece that doesn't look quite the same).
A lot of the pieces were studio made though as they showed you how in various issues of WD. I recall one where they cut an old Sar Wars toy of a Rebel Transporter in half to make a crashed spaceship. That was collectible even then.
I enjoyed 2nd edition far more than what followed. I liked the focus on fewer miniatures and greater detail, things like psychology were largely dropped later on and psychic rules were slimmed to nothing, bikes stopped being vehicles and just granted extra movement and toughness. I could see that things needed simplifying but they cut a lot of the fun and creativity out for me.
Some stuff was broken so you had to use common sense and not abuse it. The Space Wolf codex was OP, some of the wargear was busted like the notorious virus grenade that could wipe out a swarm army in one go.
On the other hand games were smaller, so there was more encouragement to paint and customise forces. People seem less keen to do that when they have to buy masses of models and take them off the table in piles when massive blast templates go down.
You could still play huge games though. I remember amassing all the Imperial Guard and Marines I could to play my friend's Space Wolves, we had about 3-4000 points apiece. Took all day to play the game.
Overwatch was a bit of a whacky rule though.
But hidden was a really great one (basically your guys cant be shot or "seen" unless you got with 2x initative range. However they couldnt shoot back either).
Basically allowed you to survive alpha strikes or long range beatings, until you get your own forward elements closer to the enemy.
They should actually bring it back.
In the battle report above I'm going to assume Space Marines won. Space Marines were really strong in 2nd, they didn't always look it on paper but the extra toughness and the armour save (3+ if I recall) meant they could stand up to a hell of a lot and those IG lasguns didn't have much of a modifier. The tanks are fairly scary but they die fast to Marine heavy weapons. Marines were beasts in close combat too, only failing against more specialised troops like Harlequins or Genestealers (both were berserk in CC)
Terminators saved on 3+ on 2D6, you had to whack them with heavy weapons to get anything like a good chance of knocking them out.
chromedog wrote: That fortress, top left (back) gave my local GW no end of grief back in the day. People kept coming in and asking where to get one (it WASN'T a GW terrain piece to start with).
Yup. I only found that out after I started coming to Dakka.
chromedog wrote: That fortress, top left (back) gave my local GW no end of grief back in the day. People kept coming in and asking where to get one (it WASN'T a GW terrain piece to start with).
Yup. I only found that out after I started coming to Dakka.
The new one is this:
Yep. I totally didn't just bookmark a bunch of stuff to order. I also sent them an email about the old one, maybe they have one covered in a ton of dust somewhere. It's a long shot that won't happen but, worth trying right?
This was, and still is, one of the best battle reports you'll ever read. White Dwarf 154, Squats V Orks, was the best in my opinion with this one a very close 2nd. I couldn't find any WD 154 scans unfortunately.
That was my first White Dwarf and I also think that was the best battle report that I ever read.
My slowly expanding Epic army, its currently 4000 points under Epic:Armageddon but I have another 1k points on my painting table. Most of these models are 20 years old.
I am extremely fortunate that my local club play a lot of 'Specialist games'. Our Mordheim campaign starts today and I have a game of Epic organised for next week.
It’s Friday! TGIF. Feeling a little uninspired this week, so I just grabbed a shot of the bookshelf. For what it’s worth, the one on the right has two more shelves full of gaming books, but getting them in frame would have required a lot more work to get the shot.
~30 years worth of accumulated flashback, for your perusal.
Nevelon wrote: It’s Friday! TGIF. Feeling a little uninspired this week, so I just grabbed a shot of the bookshelf. For what it’s worth, the one on the right has two more shelves full of gaming books, but getting them in frame would have required a lot more work to get the shot.
~30 years worth of accumulated flashback, for your perusal.
chromedog wrote: That fortress, top left (back) gave my local GW no end of grief back in the day. People kept coming in and asking where to get one (it WASN'T a GW terrain piece to start with).
Yup. I only found that out after I started coming to Dakka.
The new one is this:
Yep. I totally didn't just bookmark a bunch of stuff to order. I also sent them an email about the old one, maybe they have one covered in a ton of dust somewhere. It's a long shot that won't happen but, worth trying right?
I like the new one over the old one, actually. The old one was too olde worlde for me.
I don't live in an old country. Europe has buildings older than my country.
Sorry, I'm a few states away from home at the moment visiting my folks. Makes it hard to just pop down to the basement and snap a picture of something. They only hobby things I've still got here are a few old model rockets I forgot to pack when I moved out. I almost took a picture of the old workbench I used growing up. It still has paint stains and marks from my early hobby days. But that's not the kind of flashback that's very interesting to others, although personally nostalgic.