OK, so I've gotten into Dark Age in a big way - skirmish scale, fantastic looking miniatures, books with amazing production values - what's not to like?
I noticed that we don't have a consolidated "Dark Age News & Rumors" thread here on Dakka Dakka in the...News & Rumor forum.
Well, we didn't until now!
Here's an Outcasts preview from Templecon earlier this month:
The Salt Nomads are what finally push me over the edge, and now I'm going to be starting up Outcasts (Salt Nomads!), Forsaken (Prevailers!) and Kukulkani.
And maybe CORE too!
Please feel free to add in anything interesting that pops up - the whole point of this thread is to help keep everyone up to date!
I have a small force of CORE and have only played one game of it with my friend who used the big alien guys (can't remember the name), all I can remember from the game (it was a while ago) that not much happened till towards the end where everything kept dying! We keep on meaning to get back into it as the models and background are amazing but sooooo many other games have gotten in our way lol! This reminds me I need (not need but you know how the addiction goes) to get the walking mortar thingy for the CORE.
Yeah the new models are really amazing the old ones are in dire need of being re-done.
I picked up the rules and a few minis at Christmas, just need to flesh them out I went for Kukulkani as my first faction but want most of the others. Outcast's are on my list along with the Dragyri Fire Caste.
The last 12 months worth of sculpts have been really nice and although I'm not ready to jump on board with the game yet I did order some of the minis back in October. Still waiting on them :(
I'm liking Dark Age's new aesthetic more and more with each release. One day, I'll pick up a few models just to paint and next thing you know I'll have a whole faction.
I want to like Dark Age, I really do. It's post apocalyptic with aliens and robots and stuff. My problem with it though is that it tends to be a bit too sci-fantasy for me. Thankfully, those Salt Nomads seem to be taking things more in a direction that I prefer. Hell, they might even be what actually brings me into the game. I just wish the other human factions looked as cool.
i've been collecting Dark-Age minis since 2003...
being a fan of Brom's art, i thought the original minis were amazing...
i really enjoyed the art and fluff in the original rulebooks...
after watching them struggle along for about a decade, it is really cool to see them coming on strong, and really uping their game with the new sculpts and factions...
i was already a fan, but they blew me away when they released the Kukulkani a couple of years ago, and haven't let up with the awesome minis since...
now i just need to get caught up on the fluff again...
i haven't read about the new factions since the Kukulkani were previewed in Ravage...
good to see some new people getting turned-on to this cool setting...
Yeah, I'm super glad they're getting more serious about moving away from the samey bondage fantasy look every miniature had. It was like everyone playing the same faction of BDSM fans.
The quality and variety of their latest sculpts rivals the of Infinity, but fantasy, while still keeping their gritty aesthetic.
Speaking of Dark Age, I just came across a stash of stuff in my FLGS's consignment case. Had to pick the stuff up. Will post some photos of what I grabbed later.
Been wanting to pick up more Draygiri as it stands.
That Cabrakan is MASSIVE. It's one of those figures that starts to stray away from the whole "miniatuer" concept.
Eventually I will one one.
I've tried to buy one two times now- both times I got snubbed by the seller. Probably just going to have to order straight from Dark Age/ CMON.
The Prevailers have also been really tempting me...
I'll definitely have a look at some Dark Age stuff if I can find it at Salute... add another game to the ever growing list of 'stuff to see'
I believe I will be doing the same, good sir!
The miniatures are undoubtedly stunning, and have a very cool aesthetic.
Completely agree, the Salt Nomads and Core seem like a decent place to start! Apparently it's quite difficult to get a lot of the Dark Age stuff in the UK, so be on your guard! I'll wrestle you for it all, should we cross paths at the ExCel!
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Speaking of Dark Age, I just came across a stash of stuff in my FLGS's consignment case. Had to pick the stuff up. Will post some photos of what I grabbed later.
Been wanting to pick up more Draygiri as it stands.
That Cabrakan is MASSIVE. It's one of those figures that starts to stray away from the whole "miniatuer" concept.
Eventually I will one one.
I've tried to buy one two times now- both times I got snubbed by the seller. Probably just going to have to order straight from Dark Age/ CMON.
The Prevailers have also been really tempting me...
Unfortunately the Archangels are out of stock. How quickly CMON resupplies?
Alpharius wrote: The Salt Nomads are what finally push me over the edge
They Spartan-kicked me into the Dark Age well also.
I'm primarily a collector/hobbyist before I'm a gamer, but the models are cool enough that I downloaded the rules to see what it's all about. Though I still plan on purchasing some of those figures regardless and using them for something relating to my desert based SM chapter.
And I can't seem to find any of the products I want on CMON's store. Specifically, the Outcast book and the Salt Nomads from this listing: Link
Vertrucio wrote: Yeah, I'm super glad they're getting more serious about moving away from the samey bondage fantasy look every miniature had. It was like everyone playing the same faction of BDSM fans.
The quality and variety of their latest sculpts rivals the of Infinity, but fantasy, while still keeping their gritty aesthetic.
i don't see what you were seeing...
the look, and the setting, has always been post-apocalyptic, not fantasy, and it has only been the Skaard who really had the S&M look...
not only that, but it the Skaard sculpts translated Brom's art quite well...
if you are not a fan of his style, that is one thing, but to say that all of the factions looked the same makes no sense to me at all...
the four original factions seemed very distinct to me...
good to hear that they are moving in a direction that appeals more to the masses...
though why so many people think that the old models need re-sculpting is beyond me...
i still love all of the Dark-Age minis i have collected over the last twelve years...
Alpharius wrote: The Salt Nomads are what finally push me over the edge
They Spartan-kicked me into the Dark Age well also.
I'm primarily a collector/hobbyist before I'm a gamer, but the models are cool enough that I downloaded the rules to see what it's all about. Though I still plan on purchasing some of those figures regardless and using them for something relating to my desert based SM chapter.
And I can't seem to find any of the products I want on CMON's store. Specifically, the Outcast book and the Salt Nomads from this listing: Link
A lot of stuff in that link was available at TEMPLECON 2015 and from the CMON shop while TEMPLECON 2015 was going on.
Sadly, that time is now past, and we have to wait until they hit general release...at some unknown to me time.
I have a bad feeling that they'll be trickling out for the next few months though, so we may be waiting a while now!
I did get the Outcasts book ordered though, so I'll have that to tide me over until then.
I'm a long time player and while the model quality dipped for bit around 2010-2011, its been nothing but hits lately (speaking as someone who just threw $250 at the Templecon pre-release stuff).
If you have any questions about the game plays or want to know more about a faction, let me know. Happy to help spread the good word!
Wow... I remember looking at this game about a year ago and the models were okay, but these are incredible. Reminds me a bit of Infinity, they kind of suddenly just hit their stride with the sculpts. Shame small games like this aren't very prevalent around my area.
ImAGeek wrote: Wow... I remember looking at this game about a year ago and the models were okay, but these are incredible. Reminds me a bit of Infinity, they kind of suddenly just hit their stride with the sculpts. Shame small games like this aren't very prevalent around my area.
Same here. Been trying to get a group to play for several years.
Hasn't happened.
Don't know if it the aesthetics, rules or what.
There is just zero interest.
Shame, spent a lot money over the years collecting them.
Man, it's incredible how far this game's sculptors and studio painters have come in just five years.
The move from metric to imperial sparked my interest again, but these new figs are really something else.
I may have to pick up the rulebook at the very least, and if the rules are as good as i remember them being, might have to jump back into this one.
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Alpharius wrote: Much like INFINITY in the USA, many of us are probably going to have to 'lead the way' when it comes to DARK AGE in our local gaming area.
So be it!
Several years ago there was a pretty good Dark Age community, but the sporadic release schedule made interest trail off. From what i hear from my friends that have contact with the company that puts it out, they've largely put their house in order with that kind of stuff.
But all in all I agree, for the game to take off its probably going to take a grass-roots movement. There's a lot of skirmish game competition, and more coming all the time.
This has definitely become my favorite game I play, as the game has tight rules that are easy to understand, allow for fun and crazy gameplay, but are also technically sound for tournament play.
Great to hear that the game and rules are good - the miniatures are absolutely stunning, these are one of the only ranges giving Infinity a run for their money at the moment in my book.
ImAGeek wrote: Thanks! Kinda hesitant to use them, but maybe I'll risk it.
Don't be, I've never had any trouble with them or Darksphere and I don't use anyone else for buying mini related stuff, not even GW's own webstore!
I'm really liking the look of this Dark Age stuff, they're on the list for when I got to Salute!
I'm hoping that there will be some stuff at Salute also!
Thanks for the tip about Wayland, didn't realise they were the UK distributor. As GiraffeX says, if you buy anything that is showing a quantity (rather than 'available') you shouldn't have any problems at all.
Dark Age honestly is a pretty sweet game, and reminds me a LOT of 'old Warmanchine', before it got much larger in scope.
The new outcasts revamp, and the Nomads models are all extremely slick. I think they'd be pretty damn fun to play, but haven't had a chance at them yet.
Really glad to see that they're now on a good, structured release schedule and resculpting some of those old early-2000s models.
Hasn't Lucky been released before? Either way, its a great looking model.
Kinda like Old Ma too, but I'd want to beef up her arms a bit. They seem too skinny for the rest of her frame (unless there is something fluff-related to explain her odd dimensions).
Fantastic stuff. My local store is trying to build a Dark Age community, and if future releases are going to look as good as these, I might have to join in.
Guildsman wrote: Fantastic stuff. My local store is trying to build a Dark Age community, and if future releases are going to look as good as these, I might have to join in.
I don't think there's any worries there - if you look at the last year's worth of sculpts, they're almost all universally awesome - all up to this 'new standard' they've set for the line!
Today at the CMON Expo, the development team behind the skirmish miniatures game Dark Age held a panel discussing the present and future of the game. Earlier this year, Dark Age: Outcasts hit shelves, bringing a new twice-yearly book release schedule and introducing a new subfaction. CMON also revamped several models to give the faction a more modern aesthetic. During the panel, Michael Shinall (Dark Age Senior Designer) and Eric Kelley (Writer and Editor) looked at how Outcasts affected the state of the game and gave us a peek at the upcoming book Dark Age: Forsaken.
To set the stage for Forsaken, Eric Kelley broke down just what’s going on in the word of Samaria. The new book sees the rise of Saints Joan and Issac as they are called to action to defend New Ashkelon, the largest human populated city in Simaria. Besieged on all sides by a possessed Archangel Gabriel and the CORE. To do so, Saint Joan, who has begun calling herself the Divine Inquisitor, leads an army of fanatics stopping at nothing to root out the evil. Meanwhile, Saint Isaac has put together an army of manmade and operated machines for the battlefield, in hopes of mitigating the loss of human life.
The machines Saint Issac controls are all thanks to his discovery of a 2,000 year old cache of NorTec technology. Yes, that NorTec from CMON’s Xenoshyft card game. In fact, at the panel it was revealed NorTec’s excessive mining of resources actually led to Samaria’s current state. Luckily, their tech is good for something, letting Issac equip himself and his troops with modified Ajax armor and more that will be familiar to those who played the card game.
As the name suggests, the new book will have everything Forsaken related. Most Forsaken models are ten years old, making them one of the oldest factions in the line, so about 90% of the models are getting an update to fall in line with the current releases from Outcasts, utilizing the new artists and sculptors that have been brought on to the Dark Age line in the past couple of years. The goal for the new sculpts is to make them more dynamic and more badass feeling. The resculpts will have smaller heads and hands, making them more anatomically correct.
Each Forsaken subfactions’ play style is also getting a big overhaul, making them different from one another. Players fielding Saint Mark will have a very different experience than those playing Saint Mary and so on. Hopefully, this will lead to people finding their favorite character and building unique armies and play styles around them. A few other gameplay changes (among many) are the re-balancing of range weapons to make them more risk/reward, leader models don’t have increased points or power but will buff other models in their unit, and several split characters, like Judah, have been fleshed out to be their own unique characters.
All of these changes, be them rules or visual, all speak to a more streamline experience. With that in mind, point costs have been modified across the Forsaken line to make army building very easy and intuitive. Gone are odd numbered costs in favor of break downs like 150 points, 50 points, 25 points, etc. Again, it is CMON’s hope that this will allow people a little more control of their builds, letting them play what they want more readily, rather than ending up with a unit that just happened to fit the odd point cost that was left over.
If you’re looking to get your hands on the new Dark Age: Forsaken book, you won’t have to wait long. CMON plans on having the book available at GenCon 2015 along with the new sculpts for the faction.
More anatomically correct? That sounds good to me!
Seriously, always been a fan of the Dark Age line, for near on 10 years now. Never played the game, but the models make their way into a lot of my armies, not to mention my storage boxes. Glad to see they are improving the line over time!
The new models look great! This line is getting better and better each update. Quite a strong contender for the line with the best scifi sculpts. Very original too!
I know this could be considered heresy, but I hope they resculpt the Sister of Compassion in this new tall/skinny style. It would be more inline with Brom's art and less like it was trying to fit into a 40K army.
Chairman Aeon wrote: I know this could be considered heresy, but I hope they resculpt the Sister of Compassion in this new tall/skinny style. It would be more inline with Brom's art and less like it was trying to fit into a 40K army.
Iain.
I'm pretty sure I saw a new version of her at Origins, they had many of the new scuplts on display there.
Sister of Compassion isn't new, too curvy. (Wow, that actually hurt to type.) new Banes are in the bottom right corner? Seems to be newest sculpts reinterpreted in the new style. Like the cloaked guys and gals in the bottom left too.
Here are some pictures I took from the CMON Expo. They showed some artwork for the new Forsaken book that releases at GenCon, too; two new saints (Saint Joan and Saint Isaac), new/different units for Saint John, and lots of resculpts!
The pictures are of the new Saint Mark sculpt, new Saint Mary sculpt (with new Banes flanking her), new Saint Johan sculpt, and new Ravage sculpt.
Saint Mary no longer looks like she's toting a Heavy Bolter in one hand. Seems to be a bunch of Banes, maybe some special ones with new rank and file. Those Ravages are must haves, but not entirely Brom-esque.
Digclaw wrote: Thanks Pugg, I thought that was you that posted those on facebook
Yeah I'm building a Saint Mary army myself, and if Mounted Mary is at gencon, I won't be able to resist
Not a problem! Mounted St Mary will definitely be at Gencon... they had her at the CMONExpo for sale. I'd have gotten one, but I still haven't gotten my mounted St Mark into battle yet, and I splurged a bit into Sand Nomads.
They teased that 90% of the new models for the upcoming Forsaken book, which releases at Gencon, will be available at Gencon. Two new Saints (Saint Joan... yes, THAT Joan, and Saint Isaac) along with their new groups, plus a revision to Saint John's models. Basically the Haniels and the guy with two pistols that I'm totally blanking on his name will move to generic Forsaken and be available to anyone, and Saint John will get some new paladin looking guys to go with him, as well as something of a bannerman.
The game is getting a ton of resculpts right now, too. They had resculpted Ravages, Banes, Strikes, Mark, and Mary all for sale at the EXPO, plus a resculpted Blades mercenary and Outcast Wasteland Warriors.
Does anybody know if they will have Forsaken starters with the new sculpts in them or will we just have to buy the new sculpts seperate? since it looks like a few of the starter models do have new sculpts
Barzam wrote: I want to like Dark Age, I really do. It's post apocalyptic with aliens and robots and stuff. My problem with it though is that it tends to be a bit too sci-fantasy for me. Thankfully, those Salt Nomads seem to be taking things more in a direction that I prefer. Hell, they might even be what actually brings me into the game. I just wish the other human factions looked as cool.
Well they are re-sculpting many of the original Forsaken figures. Here are a few amateur cell phone photos from the CMON Expo of upcoming figures:
That guy's St. Johann, the heretic. He's one of the Forsaken Saints (charlatans who hold military power by assuming the identities and mythologies of vaguely defined religious figures to keep the masses in check) who's exiled from their society for being basically a mad scientist. His later form is as a tribal warlord for another faction after being cast out. Rules wise, he's one of the most powerful models in terms of killi-ness.
Saint Johan is an absolute beast in melee combat... but I *did* manage to win the MTI at the CMONExpo using Saint Mark, as the result of an insane final melee where he and Saint Johan had killed everything else on the table and went back and forth locked in hand-to-hand combat for 2 full rounds. Should it have happened, statistically? Hell no, Mark's strength is definitely as a ranged combatant. But that's one of the wonderful things about the dice mechanics in Dark Age. The game is exciting every single time I play it.
Also, the story is top notch for a tabletop game. Easily my favorite lore and worldbuilding of any game on the market. They actually create characters in the fluff and kill them, making their deaths mean something. It doesn't affect the tabletop game so much as what you're allowed to play as it does for character growth. Much like how you can play an entire subfaction army of Forsaken as Saint Johan, but he also has an entire subfaction in a different faction (Skarrd) as Father Johan, and they can be played against each other.
Based on the images I saw of Saint Joan (who is Saint Mary's sidekick, basically, turned Saint) I came away strongly with the impression that she has taken Mary's mantle after Mary dies. The quote was given as something close to "When Darkness Falls... The Phoenix shall rise." Saint Joan is wearing some kind of black (or blackened...) armor that looks very similar to Mary's gold armor... makes me wonder if Mary maybe burns to death and Joan takes her place.
Pugnacious_Cee wrote: Also, the story is top notch for a tabletop game. Easily my favorite lore and worldbuilding of any game on the market. They actually create characters in the fluff and kill them, making their deaths mean something. It doesn't affect the tabletop game so much as what you're allowed to play as it does for character growth. Much like how you can play an entire subfaction army of Forsaken as Saint Johan, but he also has an entire subfaction in a different faction (Skarrd) as Father Johan, and they can be played against each other.
Based on the images I saw of Saint Joan (who is Saint Mary's sidekick, basically, turned Saint) I came away strongly with the impression that she has taken Mary's mantle after Mary dies. The quote was given as something close to "When Darkness Falls... The Phoenix shall rise." Saint Joan is wearing some kind of black (or blackened...) armor that looks very similar to Mary's gold armor... makes me wonder if Mary maybe burns to death and Joan takes her place.
Interesting. Have any named characters died in the fluff already? (Spoiler tags please I'm never going to be able to pick the army books up for this but others might get go if they get spoilers )
@JoeRugby, yeah, a couple of characters that I can think of off the top of my head have died or otherwise changed significantly. The books are definitely worth reading.
@Digclaw, yup she's the same Joan that runs in Mary's subfaction, and just released last year with Fanaticism. Mary's narrative throughout the Fanaticism book definitely sets Joan up for something big, though. Joan is arguably one of the more important (and definitely memorable) characters from that book.
Couldn't see a Dark Age thread at the top of the Misc Games heap...what's the best entry point for this game?
Do they have starter sets? The CMoN store is not very clear.
plastictrees wrote: Couldn't see a Dark Age thread at the top of the Misc Games heap...what's the best entry point for this game?
Do they have starter sets? The CMoN store is not very clear.
Starter sets are all pretty well balanced, especially now that they've reworked a few of them.
If you have any questions, I'm sure between the few of us here that are interested, we can get you set up.
But starter boxes, if everyone is running one, are pretty suited to go against one another.
Guildsman wrote: So, say I want to get started with the Salt Nomads. What would it take?
Anybody know a good third party resource that might answer this question in detail? I think this range represent the nicest miniatures on the market at the moment as I'm really quite taken to the aesthetic so a bit of info/reviews of the game from a good reputable source would be great.
I shall have a quick google and edit this post if I get any helpful results, meanwhile don't be afraid to share if you're already in the know!
Guildsman wrote: So, say I want to get started with the Salt Nomads. What would it take?
Salt Nomads are the newest subfaction so they don't have a box or anything.
You need the Dark Age: Outcasts book to field them or any other outcasts, and they're able to field ANY non-Slaver Outcast model.
IMO, you'll be able to make ready use of the following models with a Salt Nomad force:
Behadrin Durshe, the BladeMaster (your leader / melee monster)
Oathpourer (A cool model that's great support)
A blister of Tribal Warriors (your basic combatant)
A Fixer (the outcast Doctor/Mechanic)
Scuts (those children with boomerangs: They're scouts and expendible units)
Then the rest is your choice of what you want. You could pick some cool looking bounty hunters, more generalist outcast models, or whatnot... or different salt nomad models based on what seems fitting to what you want to play.
Guildsman wrote: Fair enough. What about other factions? Is it generally the starter box, core rules, and another book?
The game's going through a transition now to 'army book' format, but everyone has up to date cards. The Starterbox and blisters should come with their stat cards, but a deck for the faction would be solid.
For the most part, the Starter Box and a card deck is fine. The Rules are free online, and only Outcasts (as of right now) have a faction book. The others can have their stats found in the decks.
Alternatively instead of a starter box, you could pick up a few models depending on the faction and give that a go. Identify what models look coolest, and ask here and I'm sure people can express if that makes sense or not.
IE, for St. Luke's Forsaken, who has no starter box, a blister of his Arsenal troops, one of his Stinger troops, and any of his faction's characters would be a pretty playable list.
Everything from about 2013 for dark age has been amazing and yet their forums are pretty dead... So talking Dakka for help as a Prevailers noobie what should I look at getting with the upcoming Forsaken revamp?
Thinking of:
Dark Age: Fanaticism?
ArchAngel Gaberial
Flock x3
Shepard
To start but not really sure where to move from there?
So we have something very VERY special to show you Monday, but let's set the weekend up right by looking at the last of the four original saints: SAINT LUKE, THE RENEGADE SAINT! Now, unfortunately Luke's Bull will not be making it to GenCon, but he will see retail stores shortly after. In the meantime, let's show you some previews of him and his revamped units!
I am not a fan of the saints on large beasts but other than that the models are looking sleeker and like they said they are starting to scale out all of the older models.
As far as list building I have always been a fan of models that play into my play style rather than models that people deem as "effective". It also depends if you are playing missions or straight kill them all type of scenarios.
What a lovely fellow on his rooster mount! That warrior maiden with her iron halo and flail might find a place on my shelves, too. Also had a peek at their Facebook page and I love Saint Mark's robo reptile steed.
Yea, I don't know how I feel about the guy on rooster mount. I think I actually would prefer it if it WERE a mechanical rooster. Or chocobo, but really I want to refer to his mount as "Rooster Cogburn" and pretend that the mount is the character, just with some dude on top to hit people with hammers.
Probably a griffon, but all I can see now is ending the model where the rider currently is, and moving the rider forward of the wings and adding a metal feather tail.
These guys (plus his soldiers and sidekick commander) look amazing. I'm so glad Dark Age is getting such wonderful new stuff out.
Their rules also look quite fun.
There's a lot more Photos that haven't been posted here but are on their facebook page for new models: Looks like pretty much every crappy Forsaken model (early 2000s sculpts!) are getting completely redone to modern standards.
Last week, we announced the pre-release board games CMON will have on offer at our Booth #1317 and #1417 (directly across from each other) during Gen Con Indy 2015. The new Dark Age: Forsaken book and units were mentioned, but there were too many to detail in that post. So we wanted to dive a little deeper in to what Dark Age goodies we’ll have on offer at the con and the online store.
The new Dark Age: Forsaken book will, as the title suggests, deal with all things Forsaken. Many of the faction’s rules and models are getting upgrades and modifications to offer a more streamlined experience to both loyal and new players. The Dark Age: Forsaken Card Pack for 2015 will be releasing alongside the book.
Wow, yes indeed! Those Flense look really cool! I still have an original Strike which is super tiny and fiddly... I hope the new ones are easier to put together (they still look amazing!) I want those Shades too.
Does anyone know if Judah is supposed to be really big? I have the first version (called Contradiction I think) and he is like ogre sized. Not sure why.
Ugh, my wallet! Why do they have to release so much good stuff at once?
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The mounted Saint Mary is just wonderful. Much better than the other mounts.
Sinful Hero wrote: Ugh, my wallet! Why do they have to release so much good stuff at once?
True. But the alternative is they release it more gradually. Then what good will all your money be, just laying around in a bank or invested into your 401 or some other high-yield high-risk venture?
I'm not going to guarantee it, but they look to be about the size that CMoN typically releases them in resin.
I would agree the larger ones should be resin. I can vouch for Saint Mark (mounted) being resin at the very least, since it was at Origins. There are a couple there I plan on getting at GenCon, since they weren't out yet during Origins.
I just finally started putting together my Saint Mary forces this year (I buy way too many games), and now I have a bunch of ne sculpts to buy and a faction book. Oh and I am so getting Mounted Mary.
Guildsman wrote: Is there any indication of the Salt Nomads getting a starter box any time soon?
I may be wrong, but I doubt there'll be a Nomad starter. They share ALL units with General Outcasts, so you can use the outcast starter.
If you had to make one however, I'd imagine this:
3x Tribal Warrior - 150 pts
1x Caravan Keeper -100 pts
1x Oathkeeper - 75 pts
1x Hand of War - 100 pts
Total: 425
Add one Bounty Hunter or a Fixer and you've got a 500.
Guildsman wrote: Is there any indication of the Salt Nomads getting a starter box any time soon?
I may be wrong, but I doubt there'll be a Nomad starter. They share ALL units with General Outcasts, so you can use the outcast starter.
If you had to make one however, I'd imagine this:
3x Tribal Warrior - 150 pts
1x Caravan Keeper -100 pts
1x Oathkeeper - 75 pts
1x Hand of War - 100 pts
Total: 425
Add one Bounty Hunter or a Fixer and you've got a 500.
Did they rerelease the Outcasts starter with the new sculpts?
I'm just wondering since a few of the new scuplts i want for forsaken are also in the starter
i was a big fan of many of the original sculpts, because it mixed Werner Klocke's (one of my favorites) sculpting with a post-apocalyptic style (which i really like), and Brom's art of course, but they have totally gone in a new, even cooler direction over the last few years...
when i bought my first Dark-Age mini over a decade ago, i never suspected that we would have awesome models like the mounted Saints, the Core, and the Kukulkani...
i love to see when something that seemed cool already, gets a facelift and looks even better...
i look forward to catching up on the new fiction...
this has the trifecta for me, great sculpting, great painting, and a great setting...
So I'm thinking I am going to need both Ajax and Prometheus as alternate TAG's for Infinity, the Scorpius and Centipedes because I like their style thematically, and the Ravage and Ravage Leader to replace Haqqislam Odalisque's because these fit my style a lot better, and aren't showing a ton of skin like the Nomad Reverend Moira's which I was thinking of using instead.
These are gorgeous miniatures. Really really well done. Excellent work!
Nice. I might have more than one Dark Age models soon. How do they compare to Infinity sculpts? Okay, unfair quwstion given how Infinity fluctuates between scale and proportions, so: Would the Ravages fit next to the Reverend Healer as killer nuns?
Dentry wrote: All this Infinity talk's got me curious. Who's sculpting and painting these minis?
Patrick Masson is doing a lot of work for CMoN these days. I don't know if he's responsible for all of them, though.
Big Child Creatives is doing most of the Dark Age studio work, I think.
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Binabik15 wrote: Nice. I might have more than one Dark Age models soon. How do they compare to Infinity sculpts? Okay, unfair quwstion given how Infinity fluctuates between scale and proportions, so: Would the Ravages fit next to the Reverend Healer as killer nuns?
GIve me some comparisons you want to see and I'll snap some photos.
Ravages look like they might be a bit hard to convert to Odalisques now I have seen their miniatures in a much sharper close-up, but I absolutely love the Sand Nomads. They are damn nice, and would very much fit in with Haqqislam stuff I reckon, especially as Khawarijs'.
Any chance you have some of the new Haqqislam stuff you might be able to put these miniatures up against for an idea of scale? Infinity has changed sizes, so seeing if these match closer to the look would be great. Any of the other newer sized Infinity humans would work as well I am thinking. Dark Age Human vs new scale Infinity Human would be a good comparison.
Dentry wrote: All this Infinity talk's got me curious. Who's sculpting and painting these minis?
Patrick Masson is doing a lot of work for CMoN these days. I don't know if he's responsible for all of them, though.
Big Child Creatives is doing most of the Dark Age studio work, I think.
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Binabik15 wrote: Nice. I might have more than one Dark Age models soon. How do they compare to Infinity sculpts? Okay, unfair quwstion given how Infinity fluctuates between scale and proportions, so: Would the Ravages fit next to the Reverend Healer as killer nuns?
GIve me some comparisons you want to see and I'll snap some photos.
The O:IS Nomads (or similiar sized light/med infantry )would be good, since those are the only Nomad models I have so far
The guys in orange armor are a new sub-faction for Forsaken. They belong to some dude named Saint Isaac, who apparently is an engineer who finds a huge cache of technology before the planet was abandoned by the united federation. He figures out how to get the robots, armor and guns working.
The 'Saints' in the game are all basically charlatans who use religion (or are used by others so) to wield military power in the human civilized survivor faction. No idea what else is the deal with Isaac, as that's all going to be part of their new book.
I really do like Dark Age. It scratches an itch at being kinda like how Warmachine used to be, but at very small scale (~8-15 models typically). It's fun to play and lose, since even the winner usually is decimated down to half their force or less in even a sweeping win.
Seriously, pick up a few models and it's a fun game. It's got depth but can play brutally and stupidly fast. Faster than Infinity even.
Our positive energy has attracted the attention of a deep one.
Metal for all the human sized minis I believe. Not sure if resin was confirmed for the bigger beasts and mounts.
Disregarding WTF factor of the initial the statement (I'm entitled to my tastes and opinions as much as you are to yours, buddy boyo), thanks for the info.
I've seen it at 4 FLGs in Southern California, so there have to be distributors around with it.
At Ease in San Diego
Game Kastle in Fremont and Santa Clara
Comics Quest in Irvine
Great Stuff. Watched them all and would love to try it out. Think it needs more exposure atleast US side as its kind of a pain to get models at any bit of a discount. Miniature Market, im looking at you!
Yes, this game and miniature line definitely deserves more exposure and attention!
Meanwhile...
Dark Age
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Gen Con 2015 is a week away, and Dark Age has several events during the convention. For those new to the game, the Build N' Play event gets you a starter set and the tools you need to start playing. We also have a 500 pt tournament and the Immortals Tournament. The winner of Immortals will work closely with CMON to put themselves into the game as a custom figure!
Would love to see as many people as possible at the Build and Play area.
And I'll pimp it here, too:
CMoN will be doing an "Ultimate Gaming Challenge" at GenCon, a program we field tested at Origins.
Basically, for a single ticket on any given day, you'll be given a gaming passport that you can have stamped for every CMoN game you play. Each Unique game you play is worth 3 points, and you get a voucher for every 5 points you accumulate.
Vouchers can be redeemed both in the gaming area and at the CMoN booth for promotional models. The voucher breaks down a little like this:
1 Voucher - Single Boxed promo figures like Zombicide Survivors, KaosBall Ringers, Rivet Wars Heroes, and Arcadia Quest Champions
4 Vouchers - Small Boxed Promos like the Arcadia Quest Nameless Campaign
6 Vouchers - Large Box Promos like the KaosBall Zombies team or Zombicide Moustache Packs
10 Vouchers - Kickstarter Promotional Sets like the Fugitive Campaign Box from Zombicide or the Blitzkreig Box from Rivet Wars.
I might start this as a new thread as well, but let me know if you have questions.
Could Dark Age get any Better? Holy gak!! They just entered the realm of greatness, only one other game is so beautiful with their sculpts, and that is Infinity. Hopefully soon the Brood, and Skarrd get there well overdue re-sculpts and then this, (Dark Age), will be one of the greatest games ever made!
Automatically Appended Next Post: So am I the only one that is super excited about Saint Joan? Who cares if she is not mounted. She is Bad Ass enough. Her Faction reminds me of The Redemptionists from Necromunda. Saint Joan will baptize all in Fire and Wrath!!!
Are there any others that played Necromunda? I played that from 92-2000. I loved it. Then it was dropped by GW. I found Infinity thru a friend of mine and Infinity helped with that void, but there was always that void, the one that could not be filled by Infinity alone, the void Necromunda left with the Underhive aesthetics and the gritty dirty in your face skirmish battles. A void that needed to be filled. When my friend that introduced me to Infinity told me about Dark Age I checked it out an was floored. A game similar to Necromunda but how I wanted Necromunda to be and similar to Infinity. I was sold and I can not control how much I enjoy and like this game. I just wish the Oklahoma City gaming community was a little more receptive. It is a pitty because once me and my friend demo this game to whomever, after one or two games in they buy a faction. It is that amazing! We as Dark Age players need to get this game into the spotlight. GW players and WarmaHordes players love the look and can get behind the mechanics of the game, and Infinity players love the skirmish setting but also the different fun mechanics Dark Age has to offer. This game can really close the gap between gamers and have every type of player playing one game, Dark Age, together. Win, win.
So am I the only one that is super excited about Saint Joan? Who cares if she is not mounted. She is Bad Ass enough. Her Faction reminds me of The Redemptionists from Necromunda. Saint Joan will baptize all in Fire and Wrath!!!
This might be a more current "How to play". both sets are good to watch. If you want the very basics explained very well and in 15 min, check out this one. Other three are good fi you want more details and a full game.
Glad this game is going through the "infinity syndrome" with old stuff getting the amazing resculpts, getting more press, and hopefully be sold at MM or other online stores that can give a discount. I am all about Saint Joan, so going to no buy into the game until she is released with crew.
Maybe someone at CMoN forgot to flip the switch or something. These are supposed to be available during Gencon, right? Well, they're still not up on their store.
I'm thinking they might not go up until after Gencon if they didn't take the entire stock with them.
They might have dropped it due to it moving slowly due to the hit or miss nature of the sculpts.
But for the last 2 years or so, it has been pretty much ALL hits - some of the most fantastic looking minis out there, right up there with INFINITY and MIERCE!
ONLINE GENCON SALE UPDATE:
(From Facebook)
Dark Age
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Due to a technical glitch in our system, we are unfortunately having issues with our GenCon Pre-Sale on the website. It currently looks like this issue will not be resolved before we return from the show, and we do apologize.
To make up for this, however, the GenCon items will be made available for a limited time through the CMON webstore when we return. We will post additional details early next week.
I wouldn't expect anything until later this week at the earliest. Gencon was pretty hectic. 200k visitors over 4 days(60k unique). They'll probably unpack and recover for a few days at least.
Yeah I sorted all my stuff yesterday, and will start the building process this week.
I replaced all my generic forsaken and saint mary models, plus completed my generic forsaken I did not have as well as getting flense for my st mary force.
I didn't get the 2015 card pack, so hopefully the ones that didn't get resuplts (medic, Warwinds) aren't too different, I can always print the new cards off the website if they are too different.
Oh and My mounted mary was built and based before I left Gencon, i just need to do some finishing touches on the base before priming.
So the building and buing of new foam for my swapout bag begins.
I've been checking in on Dark Age for years and years (because: Brom), and only now with the unification / update of the sculpting have I ever considered playing the game behind the minis.
Boss Salvage wrote: I've been checking in on Dark Age for years and years (because: Brom), and only now with the unification / update of the sculpting have I ever considered playing the game behind the minis.
*scrolls around the DA site*
Fakk me, that's a lot of nice minis
- Salvage
Ha - this is more or less what has happened with me. I'm definitely a "minis-first" guy, so if those are even a little off I'm not interested... But if the minis are really nice I'm all in. Infinity's original super-anime style did absolutely nothing for me, but their new generation of sculpts convinced me and it's the same with Dark Age. One look at Saint Isaac and his crew got me to take another look, and unlike several years back now there are tons of other excellent pieces (I'm looking at you, Salt Nomads). And now that I've started checking out the rules I can't believe this isn't the most popular game around - I watched this tutorial video and downloaded and read the rules and I was pretty much instantly hooked (though now that I have a grasp of the gameplay I think THIS video is the best). Gameplay seems streamlined, deadly, and easy to pick up (which incidentally has been my barrier to going whole-hog into Infinity - the density/complexity of the ruleset).
Now I'm just waiting til the end of the month when I can make my first DA order - looking to get a handful of Outcasts (Brutes, Scuts, etc) so my son and I can play, though obviously Isaac (and holy Joan whenever she gets released) will be mine ASAP.
But by the way - you live in one of the hotbeds of INFINITY ACTIVITY in the USA - you should be able to easily get in enough demo/tutorial/help games to get you comfortable playing it in no time flat!
But by the way - you live in one of the hotbeds of INFINITY ACTIVITY in the USA - you should be able to easily get in enough demo/tutorial/help games to get you comfortable playing it in no time flat!
I know, but most of that activity is down in Denver (and south), more than an hour away sans traffic... I've considered heading down to spectate the Feast of Blades (I think that's what it's called) but that's not really a sustainable distance for regular gaming unfortunately. And more unfortunate, none of the few FLGS up here have real Infinity communities.
I unfortunately didn't get a chance to get the DA miniatures I planned to at GenCon. They weren't selling to Exhibitors until the doors open and unfortunately I had tournaments to run at that time. :(
Gomez wrote: Now I'm just waiting til the end of the month when I can make my first DA order - looking to get a handful of Outcasts (Brutes, Scuts, etc) so my son and I can play, though obviously Isaac (and holy Joan whenever she gets released) will be mine ASAP.
I've wanted me some Kukulkani for some time - Space Mesoamericans is soooo my thing - but held off between expecting to never get a game in + Warhammer Fantasy. Now that the first is a possibility and the second is being dismantled ... I find my hardest decision is whether to stick with the Kukulkani and say no to CORE and/or Outcasts or just give in and let the minis flow
Dark Severance wrote: I unfortunately didn't get a chance to get the DA miniatures I planned to at GenCon. They weren't selling to Exhibitors until the doors open and unfortunately I had tournaments to run at that time. :(
That's curious....they were definitely selling to exhibitors before hand....What day did you try and purchase? And what are you looking for?
Hows the http://www.miniaturegamescentral.com track record for getting dark age in stock for those who have purchased I finally decided on Brood and Salt Flat, but most of the Salt Flat are out of stock :(
What are the distributors that reliably stock Dark Age?
My Local has Southern Hobby and they have Dark Age stuff listed on their website, but it is on perma preorder. I'm pretty sure I can get the guy that orders for my local if one of their distributors carries it.
plastictrees wrote: Is there a secret way to use the CMON store that isn't a huge mess? Really hard to get a sense of the ranges with that as the only resource.
plastictrees wrote: Is there a secret way to use the CMON store that isn't a huge mess? Really hard to get a sense of the ranges with that as the only resource.
Unfortunately the CMON web store interface isn't the best. Everything is kinda slow to load and trying to have multiple browser tabs usually crashes my connection and bars me from their shop for a few minutes.
Maybe one of the other online retailers linked in this thread would be better for perusing the Dark Age offerings?
plastictrees wrote:Is there a secret way to use the CMON store that isn't a huge mess? Really hard to get a sense of the ranges with that as the only resource.
Those feels. I found the Miniatures Games Central store linked earlier -
str00dles1 wrote:Hows the http://www.miniaturegamescentral.com track record for getting dark age in stock for those who have purchased I finally decided on Brood and Salt Flat, but most of the Salt Flat are out of stock :(
- helpful for seeing what's hypothetically available for the various factions. No idea about actually ordering from them.
Dentry wrote: So it's past business hours now and no new stuff up on the CMoN store. Do they work Sat/Sun? Doubt it'll be available this weekend otherwise.
I just Checked the store, and the New forsaken Models are there.
And since I forgot to pick up strikes at GenCon, well this is the time ;p
Didn't realize that some of the models would cost what they do; namely Coatlai, Scorpius, and Saint Mary on mount. Had to put those off until general release.
Aside from the book it appears that the Centipedes and Ravage leader & crew are also MIA.
so, we can expect those to be the regular retail prices for the figures then? Prices don't seem too bad, though I'm surprised the AJAX and the Prometheus are the same price. Hopefully they're suitably large.
And does anyone know why most of the CORE stuff has crystals growing on them?
They're robots that used a reverse engineered alien battery that generates huge power from decaying/dying life forms. So naturally, the AI after being abandoned (and sabotaged a bunch) goes insane and CRAVES FLESH.
Then when the CORE fights the Dragyri, it discovers that they use powerful crystals for their magic/tech. So it tries to incorporate that into it's better designs. The energy is unstable, and makes the machines MORE CRAZY.
That's why some CORE stuff has crystals. It's for the more advanced types newly built (as opposed to junk-bots).
The Spiked facemask unit is probably a new Strike leader, or a former Strike that became a Bounty Hunter. I believe there is also a named Strike character, but I can recall at the moment.
The second appears to be some sort of Prevailer unit, but I'm not exactly sure what.
All conjecture on my part of course.
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Wow ! Never would I have thought seeing a Dark Age thread on this forum ! I'm such a huge fan of this game. Saddly, it receives few attention in hobby stores and the hobby media...
I've always wanted to give Dark Age a shot, but I have never found anyone interested in jumping in with me. I personally think the setting is absolutely awesome and they have some fine sculpts, especially recently.
Still need to paint up my St. Mary stuff, but now I'm being tempted to start St. John too. Really liking all the mounted Saint models.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And if no ones beats me to it, I'll look it up when I get to the hacienda this evening Alpharius.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Unfortunately Alpharius all models released are for the St. John faction only. I'm quite partial to the Faithful myself, but I have enough for the pile of unpainted minis as it is.
It seems FRP won't be carrying Dark Age anymore. Everything is listed as limited and "going out of print," which seems to be their way of saying they won't be stocking it anymore. It's a shame as that means there's even fewer US sites carrying it. It seems Ebay will likely be my only route for getting any of it at decent prices, and even then, Ebay's selection is extremely limited. I'd like to get some of the Salt Nomads, but nobody ever has them.
That Foot St.John isn't a modern resculpt unlike everything else, which is extremely high quality: It was a limited edition alternate-sculpt they were offering at cons a few years ago.
The new Saint John model IS a resculpt, he was just the first one done and was cast early in resin as a limited release for Gencon 2014. Now we're getting the regular metal release, along with the rest of his goodies.
Strange about Miniature Games Central... I'll give the owner a ring and see what's up. They had been very good about being up to date with releases, especially since they are geographically close to CMON and all.
You can snag Dark Age models at http://www.brush4hire.com/ right now (AND they have a killer sale going on right now), as well as http://monkeyswordgames.com/miniatures/dark-age. They're both quality companies, and if they don't have an item in stock just shoot them an e-mail and they can typically special order it for you (so long as CMON has some in the warehouse available).
Dark Age is going to try to make a big push in 2016, I believe. I haven't heard any confirmations, but I'd wager we'll see a 2-player starter set this year.
Pugnacious_Cee wrote: The new Saint John model IS a resculpt, he was just the first one done and was cast early in resin as a limited release for Gencon 2014. Now we're getting the regular metal release, along with the rest of his goodies.
Strange about Miniature Games Central... I'll give the owner a ring and see what's up. They had been very good about being up to date with releases, especially since they are geographically close to CMON and all.
If you could find out what happened there I'd certainly appreciate it!
You can snag Dark Age models at http://www.brush4hire.com/ right now (AND they have a killer sale going on right now), as well as http://monkeyswordgames.com/miniatures/dark-age. They're both quality companies, and if they don't have an item in stock just shoot them an e-mail and they can typically special order it for you (so long as CMON has some in the warehouse available).
Dark Age is going to try to make a big push in 2016, I believe. I haven't heard any confirmations, but I'd wager we'll see a 2-player starter set this year.
I've heard similar rumblings - some pretty awesome rumors out there right now!
And I do hope CMON really does make 2016 the year of DARK AGE!
I'd be so glad to see a 2-person Starter and some more push from CMON this year. I've heard from conversations at various conventions that this IP was an investment for them, and they've been building up on it.
Plus, with more people around, I'd get in more games with my Outcasts and St. Isaac
Looks like a new set of scenarios and organized play rules for 2016... some fairly interesting changes, like a model sideboard that you slip in prior to game!
plastictrees wrote: Death knights and sin eaters looks fantastic.
Not just about Joan, looks a bit like a print that underplayed the detail or a Malifaux plastic.
Agreed. I was really interested in seeing her sculpt, and while there are pieces I like (the chain/flail/mace/whatever is one) overall it's a bit underwhelming. I was waiting to see how she turned out before deciding whether to jump in with St. Isaac or St. Joan... Looks like my decision may have been made.
I am super disappointed. Joan in any minis game has always been my go to as the stories always great (such as joan for infinity which looks amazing)
Waited since last gencon when they announced her as a leader for a new sub faction, and not only do we get death knights that were previously released many months ago, but static sin eaters and a joan that is not even close to her card picture of badassness.
I was expecting at least a inquisitor also and they grey lady. The released for DA have been horrible lately. Whoohoo for resculpts but not when you put out 3 models a month.
I love the game, but this will quickly make me sell it all and not look back if this is their new direction.
The Pale Saint’s forces continue to grow with April’s Dark Age new releases! Strengthen the might of your Saint Joan army by recruiting The Furies. Picked from the worst-of-the-worst of New Ashkelon’s women prisoners, The Furies act as the Saint’s punishment on all wicked souls. The more they kill in her name, the closer the Furies are to atonement. When not killing in her name, they act as Saint Joan’s bodyguards.
MSRP $19.99
The legend of the Grey Lady continues to this day in New Ashkelon. Once known as the fighter Miriam Crowdon, the Grey Lady wields the dangerous bloodsword that feeds on its victims. However, if its appetite is not sated, the nanobots in the host’s blood will turn against her. The Grey Lady only appears during times of great need, but when she does, those on the other side of her sword better watch out.
MSRP $12.99
Brought up from the ranks of the Sin-Eaters, the Inquisitors are Saint Joan’s form of the old Witch-Finders. In battle, they dress like their Saint, wearing jet-black armor, and fight with a modified flamethrower/sword. With a simple press of a button, an already terrible wound can quickly be modified with flame. The Inquisitors have no fear in battle, and the pain of their foes fuels them.
MSRP $12.99
April’s Dark Age releases can be found in the CoolMiniOrNot web store and at your FLGS.
What's the best place online (other than the CMON Shop) to order Dark Age again?
Zatsuku wrote: Dark Age minis are getting better and better looking as time goes on.
I'm sure it works for some people, but I'm really not liking the new style minis, for the most part. There are a few exceptions, but so many of them look gangly and awkward.
Zatsuku wrote: Dark Age minis are getting better and better looking as time goes on.
I'm sure it works for some people, but I'm really not liking the new style minis, for the most part. There are a few exceptions, but so many of them look gangly and awkward.
I prefer the old range.
Really?
The old range is what kept me from picking up the game!
The new range has me jumping in for probably 3 factions, if not a bit more!
insaniak wrote: I'm sure it works for some people, but I'm really not liking the new style minis, for the most part. There are a few exceptions, but so many of them look gangly and awkward.
I prefer the old range.
I keep waiting for the Sister of Compassion resculpt. I love Steve Buddle's work, but look at the original art then look at that mini, and...
The new sculpts brought me back. I can mix them with my Confrontation, Anima Tactics and Malifaux stuff and it all works,
insaniak wrote: I'm sure it works for some people, but I'm really not liking the new style minis, for the most part. There are a few exceptions, but so many of them look gangly and awkward.
I prefer the old range.
I keep waiting for the Sister of Compassion resculpt. I love Steve Buddle's work, but look at the original art then look at that mini, and...
The new sculpts brought me back. I can mix them with my Confrontation, Anima Tactics and Malifaux stuff and it all works,
Iain.
Sister of Compassion and Medic resculpts are probably general release in May. They had both of them at Adepticon, anyway. They're absolutely stellar.
The timing on this is perfect, I finally got my local store to get a direct CMON account. Hopefully I can get a Dark Age group going now after 5 years of buying models. Now just need to find time to get them on the painting table.
My buddy likes the look of the Kuklani so I'm buying him a bow and ordering him to play ;p
I have never met anyone in Canada that has even played Dark Age, but I want to get into it more and more as I see more things about it. Beautiful minis, interesting lore and very straightforward and solid gameplay.
Alpharius wrote: The Kukulkani faction - Aztec Inspired Space Aliens, sorta!
I'm not 100% up on their fluff, but I think the true K3/heavy hitters all have blue skin too?
Ah okay yeah, I like the Kukulkani stuff. I didn't put K3 and Kukulkani together haha.
Well, here in the US, we can't exactly call them the KKK!
Dark Age is definitely the next game on my list, after I get through my backlog. If they keep these resculpts to the same high quality that they have so far, they'll run into the same "problem" Infinity has: too many cool factions!