This Kickstarter looks good.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1900818244/vampire-hunters-0?ref=user_menu

The miniatures look great and they have added new game play features.

Those lurker renders for the expansion look great! And 3 separate poses is awesome

Looks great.

I think I remember seeing this before a few years ago? I thought it was funded then but I guess not? didn't bother to read anything, just skimmed. Nice that it's funded already now though

I was about to say, this looks awfully familiar.

I like the look of this one - is this really a...returned Campaign?

(An...Undead Kickstarter?!?)

It funded, started to stall, and they pulled it to tighten everything up if I remember correctly.

Looks interesting. I'll be keeping an eye on it.

My only gripe, which I already aired in the comments, is that when I hear the words "vampire hunter" I automatically think of this fellow.



I would LOVE to see a rendition of D in the game. He fits the hitech setting as well.

Damn if D wasn't a game changer for me growing up...

Well, it's been a week, time for another dungeon crawl KS.

It funded last year by over 50k. The creators wanted and felt they could improve gameplay. Hence,they canceled it.

Highlord - YES!

A Vampire D 'homage' would be great.

Of course, a straight up real official Vampire Hunter D game would be...even better!

@ Alpharius, I don't know if your into comics but ther is the V hunter D KS.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1951067948/vampire-hunter-d-message-from-mars?ref=discovery

Some of the teasers for the first campaign had model silhouettes for Buffy, Blade, Van Helsing (I think) and a fourth I cannot remember but don't think there was a Vampire Hunter D homage in there.

Ernster wrote:@ Alpharius, I don't know if your into comics but ther is the V hunter D KS.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1951067948/vampire-hunter-d-message-from-mars?ref=discovery

I did know about that one - I've got it on 48-hr. reminder - mostly for the RPG stuff! (Wish they'd do more with that aspect of it!)

Aeneades wrote:Some of the teasers for the first campaign had model silhouettes for Buffy, Blade, Van Helsing (I think) and a fourth I cannot remember but don't think there was a Vampire Hunter D homage in there.

Those all sound good - I'm leaning towards backing this one...it looks like a nice, fun, contained game.

Plus it's only a matter of time before Board Game Geek cobbles together rules for these vamps in Zombicide, or Massive Darkness, or some of the Zombie skirmish games.

I do like the mechanics on this one. Busting in on them sleeping, dragging them out into the sunlight... good times.

Still, if comment lurkers can get a Unicorn into Massive Darkness, a pet dog into Myth, Brian Blessed into Mantic, then by all means we should be able to unite and get D into this!

I am definitely in on this one, been waiting for the reboot since the first campaign. Everything looks much nicer this time around, with better tiles, more varied enemies right off the bat and new hunters already appearing (i.e. Isabella)

I like the look of the game. The gameplay seems interesting.

My concern is the miniatures because honestly that is why I would back. I am bothered they haven't at least have some 'idea' of who will be doing the manufacturing. They said since a contract isn't signed yet, they can't announce which manufactures they are talking too.

If they finalize the manufacturer that could help sway to keep me in. But I also am not a fan that they have backed zero other projects.

highlord tamburlaine wrote:Plus it's only a matter of time before Board Game Geek cobbles together rules for these vamps in Zombicide, or Massive Darkness, or some of the Zombie skirmish games.

I do like the mechanics on this one. Busting in on them sleeping, dragging them out into the sunlight... good times.

Still, if comment lurkers can get a Unicorn into Massive Darkness, a pet dog into Myth, Brian Blessed into Mantic, then by all means we should be able to unite and get D into this!

I'll join you in that effort!

TO THE KS COMMENTS SECTION!!!

Everyman wrote:I am definitely in on this one, been waiting for the reboot since the first campaign. Everything looks much nicer this time around, with better tiles, more varied enemies right off the bat and new hunters already appearing (i.e. Isabella)

Good one!

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
It funded, started to stall, and they pulled it to tighten everything up if I remember correctly.

Looks interesting. I'll be keeping an eye on it.

My only gripe, which I already aired in the comments, is that when I hear the words "vampire hunter" I automatically think of this fellow.



I would LOVE to see a rendition of D in the game. He fits the hitech setting as well.

Damn if D wasn't a game changer for me growing up...

So then of course you're aware of this?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1951067948/vampire-hunter-d-message-from-mars?ref=users

Dammit. Ninja'd.

Aeneades, the last image was for Abe Lincoln. Sadly no image of D but that would be cool if they did their version of him

Now see, if Dark Gate wanted to get in touch with Stranger Comics and give shout outs to both campaigns, maybe they could even work out some sort of amicable deal between the two of them and we can get an official D figure.

They're already doing Pathfinder supplements. Gaming figures shouldn't be too much of a stretch of the imagination.

I feel like I need to go play matchmaker here...

Also to keep thing relevant, the stretch goals to get us through the evening (and the first one was broken a while ago)-

Everyman wrote:
Aeneades, the last image was for Abe Lincoln. Sadly no image of D but that would be cool if they did their version of him

Thanks, that was annoying me. Hopefully they are still part of the campaign as I can see them being a bit draw.

Everyman wrote:
I am definitely in on this one, been waiting for the reboot since the first campaign. Everything looks much nicer this time around, with better tiles, more varied enemies right off the bat and new hunters already appearing (i.e. Isabella)

I saw what you did there, lol! :-D

Edit: @Alpharius got to it first! Ninja'd....

Topic creator needs to wake up and keep this mofo updated. Not that I haven't shirked from my updating duties in the past...

Anyway, new goal is up.



I guess this s for marking when Hunters get trapped due to faulty construction or general negligence.

In other news I got in touch with the Vampire Hunter D people, and they said they'd look into getting in touch with Dark Gate. Most likely just a token comment to keep me backing their shindig, but if enough voices start pestering both parties, maybe we'll see something come to fruition. Or not.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

Topic creator needs to wake up and keep this mofo updated. Not that I haven't shirked from my updating duties in the past...

2016 "NOT SURE IF SERIOUS" AND "IRONY METER MELTER" AWARD front runner, right there!

Anyway, I'll go update the thread's title.

Just like I did, a lot, for a certain someone concerning a certain massive Kickstarter campaign...

Oh ho ho, the irony is not lost there, no sir. That's totally why I posted that too...

More stuff too. Social stretch goals



Facebook shares get items, which are junk you can find searching lairs.



Board Game Geek fans gets new equipment unlocked, which are permanent gear that you can use in a campaign.



Third social goal is more backers. More backers gets us more terror events, which I'm sure won't end well for anyone.

I guess there was a new goal last night.



But it's already been passed, and gives the big bad Elder boss vampires cards to mess with the hunters. Naturally they are very bad things.

So the next goal is a new Elder vampire obviously.



First jump in stretch goals, but it wouldn't surprise me if we see the first add on in the next day or two.

I find this Kickstarter interesting... not necessarily because of the game but just the state of the backers vs other types of miniatures board games.

At this point backers would want to know who is doing miniatures manufacturing. If it was any other Kickstarter there would be "assumptions" or "guesses" and discussions about who was doing the manufacturing. They haven't announced what scale the miniatures are going to be (and no saying Z:BP scale is not a scale). Other companies have been raked for not understanding the importance or proper representation of scale. They haven't announced or finalized the material the miniatures will be made of. No one has clamored that there isn't a physical address for easily found for Dark Gate Games. Then there is the usual they just have renders showing.

The only thing I actually care about though is who is doing the manufacturing because that determines material and quality for me. I don't care about the other things but just interesting that in previous other Kickstarters these were 'sticky' points.

Is it because those were sticky points to people who cared more about miniatures, than the actual board game? Implying that people don't care as much about the miniatures in this campaign vs they like the gameplay? It is just interesting how these questions become focused debate points with other Kickstarters but hasn't with this one.

@Drak Severance Let the first backer ask these sort of questions and all Hell may break loose... :-p

I already tried but they didn't seem to understand my questions.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
It funded, started to stall, and they pulled it to tighten everything up if I remember correctly.

Looks interesting. I'll be keeping an eye on it.

My only gripe, which I already aired in the comments, is that when I hear the words "vampire hunter" I automatically think of this fellow.



I would LOVE to see a rendition of D in the game. He fits the hitech setting as well.

Damn if D wasn't a game changer for me growing up...

Which really is a shame as you SHOULD be thinking of Jack Crow and crew:





THIS is wha the game is about! The winching the blood suckers into the sun and all that stuff is in this flick.

The book that movie is basef on was written by John Steakley. I may have to check that out. I'm with Tamburlaine though. D was what came to mind when he mentioned the Kickstarter to me.

Steakley wrote Armor, right? I enjoyed that.

I saw the D long before Carpenter's Vampires was ever released, so that's probably why I have that association, regardless of where the game obviously drew more inspiration from.

I do find it odd though that the community isn't roasting these guys for not getting the minis specifics down. Every other campaign outside of CMON and Mantic (which are known quantities at this point) it seems these questions pop up quite regularly.

 Barzam wrote:
The book that movie is basef on was written by John Steakley. I may have to check that out. I'm with Tamburlaine though. D was what came to mind when he mentioned the Kickstarter to me.

The Steakley book is great. The movie covers about the first half of the book, the book continues the story a bit.

And yes, he wrote Armor (another great book).

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I do find it odd though that the community isn't roasting these guys for not getting the minis specifics down. Every other campaign outside of CMON and Mantic (which are known quantities at this point) it seems these questions pop up quite regularly.

That is why I'm wondering if its because backers have played it at conventions or if this is more of a 'board game' group where they care less about the miniatures (which I find odd). That is the only red flag to me, other than I don't like first created (canceled campaign doesn't count) and zero backed but that is a minor quibble.

I mean there isn't at least one conspiracy theorist (since they haven't said what material it is going to be yet), who hasn't suggested that Prodos might be involved because they haven't announced it. I don't think its going that route thought. Given the Z:BP reference I was thinking Ludo, maybe Panda, but since no definite answer yet it could be someplace else. I just don't want to see what happened to Project: ELITE happen here.

PRODOS would not be good...

PANDA, from what I've personally seen/received, is very hit or miss in terms of miniature quality.

If they don't announce it before the end of the campaign, I don't think I'll be backing this one.

They told me who their sculptor was: Alexei Popovici

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1608064/vampire-hunters-launched-and-funded

And I read somewhere else it was one of the Chinese factories producing board games (but cannot remember where I saw that so take it as unverified).

On that note has it ever been mentioned who CMON has been using for PVC minis lately? I want to know for my own nefarious needs. My Blood Rage minis came out really great, almost resiny detail quality. Would be cool to see more games using them from other companies.

 Necros wrote:
On that note has it ever been mentioned who CMON has been using for PVC minis lately? I want to know for my own nefarious needs. My Blood Rage minis came out really great, almost resiny detail quality. Would be cool to see more games using them from other companies.

As far as I know CMON has been using Ludo, at least I was fairly sure that is who did Blood Rage.

unless they've got a bunch of cash they probably can't say for certain who will do the casting, because until final contracts are signed it can all fall apart

(price hikes, somebody else with more cash coming and asking for a million widgets right where their game was going to go etc)

but defiantly not ideal if the minis are the main draw of the project

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
unless they've got a bunch of cash they probably can't say for certain who will do the casting, because until final contracts are signed it can all fall apart

(price hikes, somebody else with more cash coming and asking for a million widgets right where their game was going to go etc)

but defiantly not ideal if the minis are the main draw of the project

That doesn't make any sense to me though. Other campaigns even before contracts were signed at least knew ahead of time who they were looking to go through at first. They knew what materials the miniatures were going to be. I can't remember which two, but there were a couple Kickstarters that were looking at both Ludo and Panda but didn't sign a contract with Ludo until towards the end of the campaign. However during the campaign they still announced where they were looking to get them manufactured.

I do wonder if there are some companies that have some stipulations as well. One KS campaign Ludo was backed and in the comments but didn't officially say they were producing it until it had reached a certain threshold. However during the campaign the creator at least said they were looking into X and Y for manufacturing.

The red flag is the unknown for me, not necessarily about miniature quality but that is important to me. Since nothing is signed and finalized then how do they know they have enough funds to deliver? How do they know they have made enough enough to cover what they want to produce, they had to have an initial quote, an idea from somewhere? So how was that initial cost determined and with whom? If that place becomes too high because of price increases, what are the emergency plans and options?

During the campaign, not having a final answer, is ok... BUT they have to and should have an answer before the end, otherwise there are way too many variables that will effect delivery and the final product. (If they don't get their first choice for miniatures, do they have a second, or do they have to downgrade the quality or cut costs on other parts of the game to get that manufacturer)

I know Darklight had said from very early on (before the campaign started actually, if I remember correctly) they were going to work with Ludo.

This did eventually get finalized and confirmed before the campaign ended.

Even if Prodos did somehow end up involved, I can't think of a time they've thrown a wrench into someone else's campaign.

Their own stuff is a whole other matter naturally...

I also have a gut feeling that they have not accounted for the costs properly. Either that or they know more than they have shared which in my opinion would be even worse. Something just doesn't sit right with me about this project, even though I like so much of what I see.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Even if Prodos did somehow end up involved, I can't think of a time they've thrown a wrench into someone else's campaign.

I'm actually not worried if Prodos is involved, I prefer resin/HIPS hybrid to plastic anyways. I know there would be a few people who would probably say a few things differently. I am more concerned that costs aren't properly accounted for. Maybe they are and they just aren't sharing, but at least know where they've looked at for manufacturing helps give a basic baseline.

You'll be surprised at the HUGE difference in quotes for plastic tooling we received from China compared to the European manufacturers (and I'm not referring only to Renedra). Some times the difference was that big that (even if you calculated shipping costs and custom fees) you could easily tool three kits compared to a single one here in the old continent, maybe even squeeze a small fourth. So quality is what you pay for and this brings me to (without having absolutely any knowledge of what the plans from Dark Gate are obviously) finding it reasonable to presume they have quotations from at least 3 different manufacturers at this stage.

The key question IMO is another however; should they achieve to collect the funds necessary to tool at the more expensive quotation, does the project creator go through with it, or does he change his mind midway and opt for the cheaper option instead? And that's what has caused Kostas (our vampire enthusiast in the group) not to pledge. Yet. As he really wants to. Lol!

Where's @Artemis where we need him?

I decided that with 10 days gone by since launch, it was a good time at least talk about the miniatures again. I figured I would ask a basic question, unfortunately it looks like it was just ignored. Not even a response of something along the lines I don't know or I don't have that information, just again completely ignored. I just wanted to know if the manufacturer was going to be finalized before the end of the campaign or at the very least the places they were looking at. I was trying to figure out if they would announce it in an update or if it would just be said in comments, either way trying to decide if I was just wasting my time.

Question: Kyle Bentley - One of the big draws for me is the miniatures. What will they be made of and how big will they be?
Answer: Tony at DGG - PVC and the same size as Z:BP miniatures.

Question: Kyle Bentley - Thanks for the quick answer, though it doesn't totally answer my question. Are you saying that the figures will be between 28mm and heroic 28mm (sometimes called 32mm) scale?"
Answer: Tony at DGG - No. I am saying they are the same scale as Zombicide: Black Plague. These minis are readily available in comparative images on the web and at many FLGS, if you want to see them in person.
There is some argument on the web as to scale of these minis. I have seen it quoted between 28mm and 35mm. When I measuring from bottom of the feet to eye level, I get 32-34mm on all the Z:BP minis I have measured so far. These include men and women, and are mainly standing nice and straight.
Neither Z:BP nor Vampire Hunter minis have the exaggerated hands, feet and heads of Hero Scale minis.

They did at least answer someone else about the material and scale. Although Z:BP is not a scale, although a minor quibble compared to knowing what the manufacturer. I am not sure I like that they are just saying they are going to be 28mm-35mm because Z:BP is that size. It just seems like they don't understand scale and size. Some of the sculpts are stylized and bulky, the rule and cool and all which is fine. I just haven't seen anything that makes me confident of quality yet, simply saying PVC is not the same thing either.

 Dark Severance wrote:

They did at least answer someone else about the material and scale. Although Z:BP is not a scale, although a minor quibble compared to knowing what the manufacturer. I am not sure I like that they are just saying they are going to be 28mm-35mm because Z:BP is that size. It just seems like they don't understand scale and size. Some of the sculpts are stylized and bulky, the rule and cool and all which is fine. I just haven't seen anything that makes me confident of quality yet, simply saying PVC is not the same thing either.

Yeah, that was me. I've been looking at the KS as potential miniatures for RPGs, This is not a Test, and similar games, and since the message I sent to them didn't get answered I figured I would put myself down as a backer so I could ask in the comments. I was hoping for more information than what they gave, and it certainly doesn't seem that they understand scales, as you said, but we still have almost three weeks in the campaign. I figure we will see what happens, and if it looks questionable I can always pull my pledge.

I think you've got to accept that it's a boardgame aiming to do stuff for a boardgaming market where

they'll be the same sort of size a Z:BP

is probably good enough, (and they might not know much if anything about scale if they've not come from a toy soldiers or scale modelling background)

not good if your prime concern is that the minis are usable elsewhere, but that's not who they seem to be targeting

(I would like to know which factory or factories have given quotes though because as you say pvc can range widely in quality, although more of that is in the sculpting than the material)

I'd 'only' be using these miniatures for this boardgame, but I am still concerned about where they're getting them made.

If they don't/won't/can't share that info before the campaign ends, I won't be backing.

I'm out and I don't think there is anyway to convince me otherwise. I'll stay in for $1 and I honestly want to be proven wrong because I like the look of this but the answers show they are "optimistic" but lack knowledge of experience, completely ignoring issues of Kickstarters that are having issues who are in a same boat as them (Middara). Given how they have answered they won't commit or at least give a name. Everytime someone asks they ignore it but also so do most of the other backers who prattle on, no one seems to care or think there might be any type of red flag to question. The odd thing I actually felt more comfortable backing LOAD because I knew they were a company that had the capability to manufacturer and could (granted I understand the issues with AvP)... however it is so strange watching this and not seeing it becoming an issue. Given that the first project reached $86K with their goal was $35K and they canceled and the answers they have given or haven't... there are too many red flags for me at this point for a new company, given what they are offering and attempting.

Tony at DGG

DevGuy "How can DGG not know [the manufacturer] yet price their kickstarter and their addons?"

We posted this 5 hours ago: "As we have said, we have quotes from several manufacturers that we are evaluating based on quality and their level of responsiveness to our needs. We are only entertaining quotes from manufactures that have a past history of matching the Z:BP miniatures in level of detail." When manufacturers send us a quote, that tells us the manufacturing cost. That is the purpose of a quote.

@DevGuy "What is the nature of DGG's relationship with Succubus Publishing ... I don't want Vampire Hunters to suffer the same fate if I back it.

Here is what we said on July 30th: "Succubus Publishing gave us the concept art, the name and the rights to use it. After that, we do all the work, which starts with our sculpt for Nyx, which is on the previous update." I don't understand why you think us working from their concept art will make us suffer the same fate.

@Everyone asking for the manufacturer: As we have said, we have quotes from several manufacturers that we are evaluating based on quality and their level of responsiveness to our needs. We are only entertaining quotes from manufactures that have a past history of matching the Z:BP miniatures in level of detail.

There isn't exactly a huge list of manufacturers that have a past history of matching Z:BP and I only know one that is consistent. There are no other ones that could do so in a timely manner. That means they will complete this Kickstarter and they don't even have one lined up, yet they can deliver in 11 months... without knowing whom or understanding they aren't in the queue yet. I know the mistake of simply going off a quote, without adding extra time and money because of changes that happen within a couple months. Not in a queue and it being at minimum 30-45 before they have funds to sign one is a long time and the time period that can add an additional 6-12 months. Yet estimated delivery is July 2017, 11 months away. Not having one signed before this ends means backers potentially have to deal with issues similar to Project: Elite, Creature Caster, and even Middara... Conan knew who they were going with but they couldn't meet that deadline.

The fact that they don't understand the issue that Succubus Publishing or others that were in similar state... is just astounding. They can at least acknowledge the risk and explain what they've done to make sure that won't happen but instead they are acting confused. I'm not sure how they can not understand the risk. Succubus Publishing didn't have a signed contract before their completion of the Kickstarter. Thus the costs to from other companies couldn't make the quality they wanted and what they earned wasn't enough to fully produce it. They flopped between Panda and Prodos but then finally settled on Panda, which has pluses and negatives but because of being new in the queue (as I stated above) delivery date (if ever) isn't going to be for another year most likely (and they are already 5 months over their estimated dates).

Now I like the game mechanics, at least the concept behind them being something different. I really like the 3d renders, they are good (much better than Middara and not suffering the soft details or deep cuts). I want this to succeed but there are some serious issues, acting like they aren't is how Kickstarters don't deliver. It is one thing to be positive but the answers given doesn't show there is a real business plan in place for the "when Y doesn't happen". It shows a lack of learning from others mistakes and that scares me.

Hi guys,

I visit Dakka almost everyday and it is by far my favorite forum about tabletop gaming, so I could not stand that in my favorite forum there was such a bad vibe on Vampire Hunters.

DGG has its hands full with the management of the Kickstarter so I took it on myself to shed some light on this project since I am helping them with their Kickstarter. Most of you guys are veterans of the gaming tables so your questions are deeper than usual.

There have been lots of rumors about Vampire Hunters and it is time to clear the air.


Which factory is going to manufacture Vampire Hunter?

No contract has been signed yet with a manufacturer. However I have personally received quotes from several factories in China and shortlisted those that guarantee the best quality (NOT the best price, since DGG does not want to go cheap). At this stage it seems likely we will manufacture it with Ludofact, but we have two more high quality Chinese factories lined up with a good track record and several best selling games on their belt.



Why haven't you signed a contract to manufacture Vampire hunters yet?

Simple: because we want to produce Vampire Hunters at the best possible quality. Being DGG's first project it would have been impossible to sign up with Ludofact or other top manufacturers since we did not know how many copies of the games would be supported by backers on Kickstarter. Choosing a factory before the launch would have forced DGG to sign with a more affordable manufacturer in China with lower guarantee about the quality of the end product.



Why was the first campaign for Vampire Hunters canceled?

As always there were several reasons but the main one is that DGG realized the real potential of their game was far greater than they expected. Once they were live they got feedbacks on so many aspects of the project and realized that fixing them after the Kickstarter would have surely delayed the fulfillment by several months. So they pulled the plug, went back to the drawing board and fixed the miniatures, game mechanics and project management (tough call when you are above your funding goal but I have seen many projects that should have done the same, didn't, and had problems later down the line).



Is July 2017 a realistic estimated delivery date?

It is tight but not impossible. DGG has worked for 1 year on the rules and playtesting of the game. Of all the projects I have been involved with very few were at a better stage by the time they launched the project on Kickstarter. In the other projects I have worked on getting a production slot at the factory was not the limiting factor. Most of the time the issues are upstream. Sometimes the issues are with the miniature sculpts that need to be adjusted or re-sculpted for injection molding, sometimes the printed material or finalizing the rules is the issue. What I am saying is that not having signed with a manufacturer yet does not imply a delay.



Why didn't DGG reply earlier to the questions about manufacturing?

DGG decided to keep quiet until they had a clearer picture of who could be handling the manufacture of Vampire Hunters. Was it a smart move? maybe, maybe not. However they preferred to avoid spreading false rumors and waited until now to give a realistic answer. Now I got the green light and here I am, answering these questions.



Which scale and material are the miniatures going to be?

As said before by Tony, the miniatures are going to be on average 32-34mm which is comparable to Z:BP. Material will be PVC. We are going to show some photos of the 3d printed figures in the coming days. I am going to 3d print them myself and share them with you guys.




I think this post should make things clear for most of you. In case I forgot something or you have more questions I will check this tread from now on.

They have added a few nice Add Ons.

One that might be of interest even for folks that are not interested in the game:



And an expansion to allow a 5th or 6th player:

Those are the things that should have been said in the beginning instead of tapping around them. Not having a contract or having a contract doesn't prevent a company from being transparent in those regards.

That does help but it wasn't really here it should have been said, it should be said on Kickstarter. There are a few discussions about this topic on Facebook and a few other places.

 Dark Severance wrote:
Those are the things that should have been said in the beginning instead of tapping around them. Not having a contract or having a contract doesn't prevent a company from being transparent in those regards.

That does help but it wasn't really here it should have been said, it should be said on Kickstarter. There are a few discussions about this topic on Facebook and a few other places.

Any information earlier in the Kickstarter could have been misleading for the backers and we decided to wait until we had a solid answer for everybody. I agree with you that we may have been very cautious with our statements but since the beginning DGG said the quality of the miniatures would be very high and comparable to the top games in the market. We committed to that statement.

Anyway DGG is working on the next update and the good news should be mentioned there.

I posted here personally because this is my favorite forum and also the thread with the highest density of questions on this topic.

astrilux wrote:
since the beginning DGG said the quality of the miniatures would be very high and comparable to the top games in the market. We committed to that statement.

Which frankly means nothing.

Their opinion of 'very high and comparable to the top games in the market' may not match the opinion of others, which is partly why folks have been asking the questions they have. Without samples from the manufacturer in the same material they intend to use for this we don't really know how that 'commitment' translates into what will be delivered.

I'll be honest, right now you seem to be offering a lot of unique sculpts for the price per backer being asked, especially at what is really a low volume (under 5k copies). I am wondering how you will be able to deliver at the "very high and comparable to the top games in the market" quality you are committed to deliver...

Kudos fact is apparently doing the miniatures.

We have more good news from our financial team. We have shared a lot of information about the game but not about our manufacturing plans. The premier board game manufacturer Ludofact is our first choice for the production of Vampire Hunters. In the past few weeks, we have been in contact with Ludofact and they are very happy to manufacture Vampire Hunters and fit us in to their production queue!

Ludofact guarantees top quality for all their games.

As we have said since the beginning, we want only the best quality for our game.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1900818244/vampire-hunters-0/posts/1652521





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Stupid auto correct it is Ludo not Kudos.

A list of the latest SGs that have been unlocked:

They're 100% using Ludo?

If so...I'm probably back in!

Thanks for taking the time to post during your campaign, astrilux and for that info Ernster!

@RiTides: you are welcome. It feels good to contribute to Dakka's News & Rumors section after reading it for so long.

If Ludofact are onboard then my confidence levels just went though the roof. This really does look like a very good kickstarter now. Best of luck guys

Do we know if we can go in 'for a dollar' now and upgrade later?

@Alpharius, I believe you can based on the info given in the $1 pledge. It's says it is an invitation to the pledge manager and you can Chang your pledge anytime.

Ernster wrote:
@Alpharius, I believe you can based on the info given in the $1 pledge. It's says it is an invitation to the pledge manager and you can Chang your pledge anytime.

Thanks Ernster - of course it is all right there, if I'd just looked a little closer!

Well a new Add On for the campaign (While folks have been joking about a unicorn all campaign and DGG has said they would see what they could do like maybe a vampire riding a unicorn; I have to say that this is the strangest unicorn that I have ever seen )

Really enjoy John Carpenter's Vampires so I'm finding this hard to resist. (Especially since the last stretch goal)

Ash (Jack Crow) unlocked:



New optional game play mechanic to add a traitor mechanic to the game unlocked:



Also a new add on (reminds me of the vampires from The Strain even though these are based on Romanian folklore):



A little extra bling unlocked as well:

The new vampire miniatures look great except their tongues. They look more like they are based on a Dyson or Bissel vacuum cleaner than Romanian.

I think the intent on the tongues is to look like this:



Sadly it is probably a little delicate for 28mm so they have grossly exaggerated the look to get the feel across without making the models uncastable.

A GW Broodlord tongue would fit better.

http://generalcambronne.deviantart.com/art/Genestealer-Brood-Lord-284467292

Those long tongues are going to cause at least the male versions to tip very easily.

New hunter unlocked:



New Add On:



Fireteam Zero Crossover hunter:



New optional gameplay mechanic unlocked:

Henry is in!



Next up:

19 HOURS LEFT

Henry Unlocked:



Najida Unlocked:



Lobotomy Crossover Figure Added:



New Expansion Add On:

There's more though!

This new elder-


More minions for slayer pledges-



New combined vampire attack cards for turned hunters to use-


...and Kurivan.



Sucker (pun intended) better live up to how big his render seems to be...


Saddest thing is there was no whip slinging Belmont or D inspired hunters. Alas.

100% agreed - no Counts As "D" is a sad thing indeed...

So guess that big sucker is going to be the ultimate last SG?
Why would they otherwise hide his funding amount?

That'd be a bit lame, though ...
I'd rather they just tell us 'no more, we're done'.

'Big Sucker' seems to be at $500k

Yeah, they were quick enough to give him the 500k ...

Only a few hours to go and I'm stuck at Hunter EB. Would like to upgrade to Slayer, but hoping someone drops out of the Slayer EB and not sure if I would make the jump to normal Slayer pledge...

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Only a few hours to go and I'm stuck at Hunter EB. Would like to upgrade to Slayer, but hoping someone drops out of the Slayer EB and not sure if I would make the jump to normal Slayer pledge...

You can add the $45 to make your total $125, keep the pledge as the EB Hunter and in the pledge manager indicate you want EB Slayer instead. They mentioned you could do this in one of the updates.

Total number of EB slots remains the same, but Hunter can be Slayer by adding the funds.

I did this myself.

 CptJake wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Only a few hours to go and I'm stuck at Hunter EB. Would like to upgrade to Slayer, but hoping someone drops out of the Slayer EB and not sure if I would make the jump to normal Slayer pledge...

You can add the $45 to make your total $125, keep the pledge as the EB Hunter and in the pledge manager indicate you want EB Slayer instead. They mentioned you could do this in one of the updates.

Total number of EB slots remains the same, but Hunter can be Slayer by adding the funds.

I did this myself.

Ohhh, thank you! Slayer it is then!

Received my Slayer pledge last week. Miniatures are okay-ish, some bend and broken parts, quite a bite of flash. Detail is sometimes good, sometimes not so good.
Some minis turned out really good.
Game tiles look nice enough.
Player tiles are 170g paper?? Day/night cycle tracker too. Don't understand this decision not to print them on carboard.
Haven't had a look at the rules.

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Received my Slayer pledge last week. Miniatures are okay-ish, some bend and broken parts, quite a bite of flash. Detail is sometimes good, sometimes not so good.
Some minis turned out really good.
Game tiles look nice enough.
Player tiles are 170g paper?? Day/night cycle tracker too. Don't understand this decision not to print them on carboard.
Haven't had a look at the rules.

Thanks for the update. Any chance we could see some comparison photos of both the good detail and bad detail miniatures along with something for scale? I'm hoping some of the creatures make their way to eBay.

This is one I wanted to back but couldn't at the time.

 Gallahad wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Received my Slayer pledge last week. Miniatures are okay-ish, some bend and broken parts, quite a bite of flash. Detail is sometimes good, sometimes not so good.
Some minis turned out really good.
Game tiles look nice enough.
Player tiles are 170g paper?? Day/night cycle tracker too. Don't understand this decision not to print them on carboard.
Haven't had a look at the rules.

Thanks for the update. Any chance we could see some comparison photos of both the good detail and bad detail miniatures along with something for scale? I'm hoping some of the creatures make their way to eBay.

This is one I wanted to back but couldn't at the time.

If no one beats me to it, I can take some pics tonight after work.

Yes, please do - much appreciated!

Scale shot
Left to right: VH, GW Plaguebearer, VH, Space Marine Scout, VH, Space Marine Primaris, VH



Good example


Bad example

Figures don't look too bad.

Nothing a little paint won't help at least.

We'll be using them to finally get around to playing Ganesha's Fear & Faith with these!

*Some* of them don't look 'too bad' - but that one certainly does!

What percentage would you say fall into that mushy/washed out category?

Thank you! Those are very helpful.

 Alpharius wrote:
*Some* of them don't look 'too bad' - but that one certainly does!

What percentage would you say fall into that mushy/washed out category?

The one I posted is the worst, with another female face mush close behind.

Most of the others are okay-ish, but with some parts that weren't properly adjusted for PVC. Dark Gate talked about re-adjusting the models for PVC in an update, but I guess they just ran out of time or simply missed to adjust everything, like hair blending seamlessly into the coat, collars that will vanish if primed, etc.

I am very disappointed that these are not on the same level of detail as Zombicide Green Horde or Rising Sun. I was expecting that level. There are more negative comments in the KS page than positive!

I feel bad for those who were disappointed by what they got - I barely avoided pledging for this one too, but I felt like the minis wouldn't live up to the renders, especially on the 'humans', as is almost always the case...

First Created and less than 150 miniatures for $100. Probably why I skipped it.

I'm getting too used to CMON and Monolith miniatures, so I'm trying to cut back on companies who haven't shown production miniatures of that quality.

Probably not a bad bar to set, really.

For <$1 figures, they're not a bad 125-ish models of adequate quality and novel theme. Not that I needed a Vampire game., but if I did, the $90 base pledge + SGs was not unfair.