I have come across a supposed White Dwarf (Jan.) Pic showing plastic sisters. It seems the endtimes are upon us. If I get anymore I'll update; and no I do not have the magazine myself.
I considered adding them, but I thought a sisters only thread would be appreciated; perhaps i'll change the title to White Dwarf January Leaks - Plastic Sisters, Ad-Mech, and Inquisition
And just after I blew all my money on blood bowl, can't say I regret that though. But now money is gonna be tight. The deciding factor for me though will be the look of the regular troops, and if they get their own book. They do look good in gold, but i really liked the black and red...hmm.
They look nice, but I'm happy I threw my money at Ragingheroes's TGG2 kickstarter instead. Then again, these GW plastic sisters will probably come in a year before TGG2 finally ships out.
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Either way, both companies' Seraphim equivalents' wings look really chunky.
At least GW's will be plastic and not cast in greasy, hard to clean, not to mention awfully brittle resin. I've learned my lesson with that stuff from their first KS.
BrookM wrote: At least GW's will be plastic and not cast in greasy, hard to clean, not to mention awfully brittle resin. I've learned my lesson with that stuff from their first KS.
Hah. I totally agree. However, I'm more of a fan of painting personally, so the final result is much more important than the journey.
Speaking of brittle, I'm rather curious how much punishment those fiddly bits of "flying base" parchment and Celestine's halo can take.
Thargrim wrote: And just after I blew all my money on blood bowl, can't say I regret that though. But now money is gonna be tight. The deciding factor for me though will be the look of the regular troops, and if they get their own book. They do look good in gold, but i really liked the black and red...hmm.
it appearse that saint celestine gets a new model, so she most likely will get printed rules. So a new codex seems very likely
Could be Celestians or the like acting as a honour guard, judging by the white stripe through the hair, which IIRC is a sign of seniority within the orders.
Lots of people are going to be glad they were wrong today! In hindsight the person that was convinced Atia had reneged on her 'Plastic Sisters' rumour probably wishes they hadn't doused themselves in negativity...
Matt.Kingsley wrote: Also unless she's flying next to 2 Seraphim Superiors... it looks like SoB might have a new Jump Pack unit focused on melee rather than gunslinging.
I think most people were expecting that any plastic Seraphim kit would have an alternate build. I'll be interested to see if the Living Saint is a clampack or included as an alternate construction of the Seraphim Superior.
Also:
I mean, yeah, plastic Sisters, I'm all kinds of up for that, but a plastic female Inquisitor AND a new Magos that might be even better than the Dominus kit? Gak me, this is going to hurt, I think I might have to redirect my new PC monitor fund into models.
EDIT: This frakking postal strike better not delay my WD. And that I can feel that way about WD again is awesome.
I can live with the old models either way, but new Repentia and possibly some new units would be amazing. Seems likely we will see at least one dual kit. Didn't one of the rumors say new dual kit on larger bases? Maybe it's these Seraphim or whatever they may be called.
The Magos is amazing. The sisters are... mediocre, what the hell is going on with those ugly jumppacks. They just scream "Look female Sigmarines" instead of SoB.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Why did I have to spend so much money on Space Marines! Quick to eBay for liquidating funds for plastic sisters. I doubted and seek forgiveness.
The Grumpy Eldar wrote: The Magos is amazing. The sisters are... mediocre, what the hell is going on with those ugly jumppacks. They just scream "Look female Sigmarines" instead of SoB.
The Jump Packs look to be of the same design as the ones on the metal models...
The Grumpy Eldar wrote: The Magos is amazing. The sisters are... mediocre, what the hell is going on with those ugly jumppacks. They just scream "Look female Sigmarines" instead of SoB.
Grab a picture of the existing Seraphim models. The Jump Packs are identical and the added wings are more based on the 30K Raven Guard Corax/Dark Fury wings than the Stormcast ones.
The poses and contact points to the base are an obvious nod to Prosecutors but other than that...Stormcasts these are not.
Loopstah wrote: Yep, look identical to the current seraphim packs.
That's definitely Celestine as well she has flowers and doves.
Could this be an alternate build from the Seraphim box? Either make regular Seraphim with a Sister Superior, or build a Living Saint and a new melee-armed bodyguard unit. Would explain them sharing a colourscheme with the Saint.
Also, someone needs to phototshop those Sisters with a regular black & red colourscheme so people stop with this "Sigmarine" nonsense just because they're gold.
The Grumpy Eldar wrote: The Magos is amazing. The sisters are... mediocre, what the hell is going on with those ugly jumppacks. They just scream "Look female Sigmarines" instead of SoB.
The Jump Packs look to be of the same design as the ones on the metal models...
Yep, they're near identical to the current metal models, size notwithstanding (little hard to judge without a comparison). Which is fantastic, because the biggest fear I had with a plastic Sororitas range was them changing the style away from the metal models so they wouldn't "fit in" next to each other on the table. My current sizeable Sister Army is looking forward to receiving reinforcements!
Sweet monkey tuesday! Those are awesome . Glad to see Adepta Sororitas getting a (long overdue) overhaul . Looks like there's some Stormcast Eternal design elements in there- a la Prosecutors- with the scrollwork trailing on to the base (that's it though, really)
Could this be an alternate build from the Seraphim box? Either make regular Seraphim with a Sister Superior, or build a Living Saint and a new melee-armed bodyguard unit. Would explain them sharing a colourscheme with the Saint.
We're not even sure if it *is* Celestine. While it's very likely, it could also just be a Seraphim Superior.
Given the bare left hand releasing the doves, the winged kneepads, the roses around her sword's crossguard and the halo behind her it is definitely St. Celestine.
A bit damn mean to rinse people for old metals then release new plastics the following month. And double dip for Codex too. GW can't do much wrong lately but this feels disingenuous (and I'm not even a SoB player).
looks like 32mm bases on the sisters and a ~40mm on Celestine? Awesome! I'm so gonna use my RH girls once they arrive, including Erzebel which is designed for a 40mm
Same here. I do like the magos, but I couldn't care less for the female sigmarines. I do however like the fact that sister players finally get new models. It might just be enough to keep them from hijacking inq related threads in the future.
Oh WTF. Come on, GW, you do realize that some of us want to use the new models, not just carefully set them in a display case and be paranoid about breathing on them too hard?
Yeah the Seraphim wings have wings similar to the Dark Furies from Heresy. Which are awesome BTW.
This amazing.
But, I suspect its just Celestine for now and she can be taken for any Imperial army. I am also guessing that during the "Fall of Cadia" she appears and saves the Cadians ala "Angel of Verdun".
Peregrine wrote: Oh WTF. Come on, GW, you do realize that some of us want to use the new models, not just carefully set them in a display case and be paranoid about breathing on them too hard?
Just glue some coins under the base. The plastic will be studry and flexible enough to rsist stress and the coins will sure keep these things upright.
Peregrine wrote: Oh WTF. Come on, GW, you do realize that some of us want to use the new models, not just carefully set them in a display case and be paranoid about breathing on them too hard?
Just glue some coins under the base. The plastic will be studry and flexible enough to rsist stress and the coins will sure keep these things upright.
Yeah, a lot of figures benefit from that, but flying ones particularly because they tend to have bad center-of-mass issues. Luckily, though you might have to trim the bottom of the base a little, a penny will fit under most miniatures bases.
That Magos... My jaw literally dropped. I cannot BELIEVE that model is in plastic. It's one of the most impressive miniatures I've ever seen in my life, period. Holy christ.
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Peregrine wrote: Oh WTF. Come on, GW, you do realize that some of us want to use the new models, not just carefully set them in a display case and be paranoid about breathing on them too hard?
Not a problem judging from the Stormcast Eternals with identical ribbons holding them up. That plastic is sturdy.
Codex: IA did exactly what was advertised. Let's see what actually happens with the Sisters ruleswise, my bet is on a new printed Codex as well (and an update to the digital book). I hope there will be more than just a few new models for these factions.
Automatically Appended Next Post: +1 for the new Magos, it is a stunning model and a worthy successor to Ian Miller's "WTH is this!?" AdMech artwork in the RT rulebook
oldzoggy wrote: Just glue some coins under the base. The plastic will be studry and flexible enough to rsist stress and the coins will sure keep these things upright.
That doesn't do anything to keep those ribbons supporting the models from snapping if you look at them too hard.
oldzoggy wrote: Just glue some coins under the base. The plastic will be studry and flexible enough to rsist stress and the coins will sure keep these things upright.
That doesn't do anything to keep those ribbons supporting the models from snapping if you look at them too hard.
Again, they won't, because Stormcast have models with identical ribbons.
He was "painting" several models. Clearly Khan and a Human Bloodbowl Player... Might watch it once more to check whether Duncan has a Sister in hand at some point.
So it looks like Cadia will fall to Chaos. With Cadians essentially become Tanith 1st & Only, will we see plastic support for some of the older regiments or new ones introduced this year?
casvalremdeikun wrote: Saint Celestine at the head of a Black Templars Crusade heading into the Cadian Gate!
Hearing that quote I started wondering whether Black Templars might receive upgrade sprues or new kits... (My guess would be rather the first one)
Hopefully an upgrade sprue that is more than just a single frame like what UM, BA, DA, SW, and DW got. I want a full-on upgrade for the newer Tactical Squad kit. What I am hoping this means is that Black Templars will be getting a new Detachment that is based around Crusader Squads. It will leave me a little salty, since my Crimson Fists will still be left out in the cold (we can't fully make use of the Sternhammer Strike Force due to there being no place to put Pedro Kantor), but they definitely need something after being almost completely ignored for the Angels of the Death book.
Commissar Benny wrote: So it looks like Cadia will fall to Chaos. With Cadians essentially become Tanith 1st & Only, will we see plastic support for some of the older regiments or new ones introduced this year?
Seems like a good rationale to (finally!) discontinue to Cadians and give us a better looking regiment.
GLORIOUS dakkadakka forum I once again bring my humble self to tell you one message. Thank games workshop for me. I was the chosen one who above all others called "it" and predicted a great deal of releases. Particularly with the Dark Eldar model. Shout out to the dark city tho for helping analyse that picture.
Anyways I am super hyped for the Dark Eldar board game? Sounds fun. Likely see a whole host of cool models. Thedarkcity is basically on party mode right now. Now I wonder... if people will freak out when I think Ultramar will fall to the Tau + others. Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen. Haha.
Starting to wonder now if maybe it's just Celestine + bodyguards as a dataslate in the campaign book along with the Magos and Inquisitrix and not an actual new codex release.
Surely they would have shown battle sisters as well if they existed?
NEWS: According to Warhammer TV they are doing a Live Q&A on the Twitch stream about the new January release at 1pm GMT today.
Loopstah wrote: Starting to wonder now if maybe it's just Celestine + bodyguards as a dataslate in the campaign book along with the Magos and Inquisitrix and not an actual new codex release.
Surely they would have shown battle sisters as well if they existed?
Not necessarily. We saw Magnus the Red long before we saw the Rubric Marines.
I am 100% getting that Inquisitor. She looks fantastic. She shall be an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor.
Loopstah wrote: Starting to wonder now if maybe it's just Celestine + bodyguards as a dataslate in the campaign book along with the Magos and Inquisitrix and not an actual new codex release.
Surely they would have shown battle sisters as well if they existed?
NEWS: According to Warhammer TV they are doing a Live FAQ on the Twitch stream about the new January release at 1pm GMT today.
I wont be able to be there but if someone could ask what Sisters are going to be plastic, I would be very excitebike.
It's most probably just Celestine and her girls, in the WHTV video they're saying "Celestine leading a Black Templar force against the Cadian Gate" so she's in the campaign book for sure. Obviously more may come in feb
The twitch is going to be wall ti wall questions about Sisters isn't it? Haha.
It looks like just Celestine and bodyguards this month to me too - with normal sisters Not released this month. Hope they actually give a bit more info on what is actually coming for them today
I think we'll even see Kroot Mercenaries before the end. These all bring tears to my eyes.
Also THAT is a damn awesome looking SoB release. If the entire army looked like that everyone would want to play them. I am envious of the Celestine model super badass.
Loopstah wrote: Starting to wonder now if maybe it's just Celestine + bodyguards as a dataslate in the campaign book along with the Magos and Inquisitrix and not an actual new codex release.
Surely they would have shown battle sisters as well if they existed?
Not necessarily. We saw Magnus the Red long before we saw the Rubric Marines.
I am 100% getting that Inquisitor. She looks fantastic. She shall be an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor.
Hereticus. I can clearly see a Condemnor boltgun.
Anyway, I compleatly quote the telling about Celestine and Magnus.
The Inquisitor looks great and even though I don't play the faction would get an updated male one and maybe the female one anyways just because it looks good.
My hope (yeah I know, first step to disappointment and all that) is that this is just the initial tease and the rest of the plastic sisters are being released but just not leaked/teased yet. At the very least it would make sense to have a kit for the normal power armored sisters which would cover half of the codex entries.
Loopstah wrote: Starting to wonder now if maybe it's just Celestine + bodyguards as a dataslate in the campaign book along with the Magos and Inquisitrix and not an actual new codex release.
Surely they would have shown battle sisters as well if they existed?
Not necessarily. We saw Magnus the Red long before we saw the Rubric Marines.
I am 100% getting that Inquisitor. She looks fantastic. She shall be an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor.
Hereticus. I can clearly see a Condemnor boltgun.
Meh, that's details I can fix when I get her.
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casvalremdeikun wrote: Watch, she is one of the character models from a limited edition boxed set like Eldrad.
Not really a problem, since every "limited edition" box set with a unique character, has had said character released a short while after.
Not all of them. Eldrad and Artemis are still locked away for right now. It isn't a huge deal, by any means, but people would likely be pissed if they couldn't get ahold of her without having to buy a boxed set.
Gamgee wrote: There were rumors of a sisters vs dark eldar starter set. How much you want to bet they mistook this boardgame? I bet it will be DE vs Sisters.
It would have Vect v. Celestine in it! Maximum salt for anyone that just wants either of those characters!
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ImAGeek wrote: Well already I can tell 2017 is going to be expensive.
So far, I am looking at only one miniature. So far. And it isn't even 2017 yet.
They will likely tie this board game into a full dark eldar release much like the Deathwatch and GSC. WOOHOOO my Dak Kin get some love.
The current bet is it might not be vect, but a new DE character Vects personal archon who I forget the name of. He is famous for stealing soul gems and then putting trapped souls into them. HE is fairly new lore wise but seems popular.
If Vect had rules even remotely like his old ones, he'd be absurdly overkill for a starter box.
Gamgee wrote: They will likely tie this board game into a full dark eldar release much like the Deathwatch and GSC. WOOHOOO my Dak Kin get some love.
The current bet is it might not be vect, but a new DE character Vects personal archon who I forget the name of. He is famous for stealing soul gems and then putting trapped souls into them. HE is fairly new lore wise but seems popular.
Duke Sythrac. He's basically Vect's personal attack dog. He's got a sword that devours souls, too.
I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth but the whole "scrolls as supports" look on jump troops annoys the hell out of me, I'm hoping they'll be easy enough to clip off. Otherwise, wow! They're all good models. Why are the "forge world exclusive" limited ed. space marines they're putting out so crap compared to this stuff?
JohnnyHell wrote: A bit damn mean to rinse people for old metals then release new plastics the following month. And double dip for Codex too. GW can't do much wrong lately but this feels disingenuous (and I'm not even a SoB player).
Yeah, you said it. I'd be annoyed if I'd bought the metal seraphim, but my faith held firm.
Gamgee wrote: There were rumors of a sisters vs dark eldar starter set. How much you want to bet they mistook this boardgame? I bet it will be DE vs Sisters.
I think the Sisters boxed thing might be Sisters & Black Templars vs Cadian Gate (Chaos), some sort of campaign at the very least judging from the warhammer TV clip.
Automatically Appended Next Post: If it was Sisters vs DE what kits would the DE get? What are the missing? Grotesques, Beastmasters + beasts and Incubi are all I can think of atm.
That Fall of Cadia book (not sure if its a campaign book or a novel) has a Jan 7 preorder Jan 14 release which means its coming really soon. A new plastic Failbaddon should be popping up soon.
Bull0 wrote: I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth but the whole "scrolls as supports" look on jump troops annoys the hell out of me, I'm hoping they'll be easy enough to clip off. Otherwise, wow! They're all good models. Why are the "forge world exclusive" limited ed. space marines they're putting out so crap compared to this stuff?
I was thinking just putting something underneath to reach the legs, I am hoping that pillar from the AoS hero bases is tall enough.
I guess this new Black Crusade won't last very long if both the Sisters and Templars are going to meet them head on, boy Abaddon, you just opened up a whole can a trouble! Even the Noise Marines will be deafened by the screaming of For the Emperor!
Gamgee wrote: There were rumors of a sisters vs dark eldar starter set. How much you want to bet they mistook this boardgame? I bet it will be DE vs Sisters.
I think the Sisters boxed thing might be Sisters & Black Templars vs Cadian Gate (Chaos), some sort of campaign at the very least judging from the warhammer TV clip.
Automatically Appended Next Post: If it was Sisters vs DE what kits would the DE get? What are the missing? Grotesques, Beastmasters + beasts and Incubi are all I can think of atm.
Special characters are really the only DE models that need a kid update, IMO. They need new rules more than they need new models.
Vankraken wrote: That Fall of Cadia book (not sure if its a campaign book or a novel) has a Jan 7 preorder Jan 14 release which means its coming really soon. A new plastic Failbaddon should be popping up soon.
He ain't Failbaddon anymore if Cadia actually falls!
Of course I suppose the title might just mean Autumn on Cadia, 150 pages of Imperial characters admiring the red and gold leaves, drinking pumpkin spice lattes and going antiquing.
Gamgee wrote: There were rumors of a sisters vs dark eldar starter set. How much you want to bet they mistook this boardgame? I bet it will be DE vs Sisters.
I think the Sisters boxed thing might be Sisters & Black Templars vs Cadian Gate (Chaos), some sort of campaign at the very least judging from the warhammer TV clip.
Automatically Appended Next Post: If it was Sisters vs DE what kits would the DE get? What are the missing? Grotesques, Beastmasters + beasts and Incubi are all I can think of atm.
A previous rumor. That same rumor says their troops will be getting updated and there may be more kits. I would hope we see Vect on some sort of pimp mobile which would be super cool and give the DE something big/lord of warish. However the rumor only specifies the DE troops update and Sythrac. Another rumor that is separate from that says there was a sisters vs DE starter set which I think is this boardgame. Finally another rumor says that there are three codices left to do before 8th. Sisters is likely one of them, DE/CE are likely going to be in a campaign set. So who would the other two codexes be? They have been saving full codexes for completely new armies.
"Archon Volossian Sythrac prized possessions are his collection of soul traps - vile devices that act much like the spirit stones of the Craftworld Eldar, though in a far more hideous and predatory way. The act of parting a soul from its mortal body is child’s play to Sythrac. A single scratch from his ancient huskblade will turn his victims to dust in seconds. The disembodied soul, torn so quickly from its physical vessel, is then easy prey for the spirit vortex of Sythrac’s rapacious soul trap. Once a soul is claimed within for all eternity, its captive energies harnessed to energise Volossian Sythrac’s ancient body."
I have hope for Kroot Mercs/Demiurg being one. Please GW hit it out of the park.
Commissar Benny wrote: So it looks like Cadia will fall to Chaos. With Cadians essentially become Tanith 1st & Only, will we see plastic support for some of the older regiments or new ones introduced this year?
If we finally get a new unit of plastic Imperial Guard in the scale and quality of recent human infantry kits, and even better it's not the boring Cadians? Yeah, screw it, for that I can live with GW gaking on the background with their cack-handed timeline advancements.
SKR.HH wrote: Really? I think DE Basic troops are more than fine... It would really surprise me.
People aid the same thing about the Tau Firewarriors and then boom Breachers. Exact same wording. it could very well just be a rebox with sprue options.
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I need my name changed to Farsight since I seem so good at this stuff.
The difference is that the DE troops are only 5-6 years old, while Fire warriors were like 10+ years old.
I seriously doubt DE would get a Troop update sooner than every other faction has other than Loyalist Marines, especially given their "have not" status.
Matt.Kingsley wrote: The difference is that the DE troops are only 5-6 years old, while Fire warriors were like 10+ years old.
I seriously doubt DE would get a Troop update sooner than every other faction has other than Loyalist Marines, especially given their "have not" status.
People have told me a lot of impossible stuff over the years kiddo, and I've seen a lot happen that shouldn't happen. I think with the plot advancement of Eldrad screwing the Eldar they will give them some new options to tie into the end times advancement.
SKR.HH wrote: Really? I think DE Basic troops are more than fine... It would really surprise me.
People aid the same thing about the Tau Firewarriors and then boom Breachers. Exact same wording. it could very well just be a rebox with sprue options.
A lot of people also said that the old Fire Warriors where incredibly dated when compared to the much higher quality sculpt Pathfinders. It wasn't farfetched that they would update the 10+ year old sculpt for the base troop of a fairly popular faction.
Commissar Benny wrote: So it looks like Cadia will fall to Chaos. With Cadians essentially become Tanith 1st & Only, will we see plastic support for some of the older regiments or new ones introduced this year?
If we finally get a new unit of plastic Imperial Guard in the scale and quality of recent human infantry kits, and even better it's not the boring Cadians? Yeah, screw it, for that I can live with GW gaking on the background with their cack-handed timeline advancements.
It's called the Fall of Cadia and you expect it to not have Cadians...
SKR.HH wrote: Really? I think DE Basic troops are more than fine... It would really surprise me.
People aid the same thing about the Tau Firewarriors and then boom Breachers. Exact same wording. it could very well just be a rebox with sprue options.
A lot of people also said that the old Fire Warriors where incredibly dated when compared to the much higher quality sculpt Pathfinders. It wasn't farfetched that they would update the 10+ year old sculpt for the base troop of a fairly popular faction.
Then you should know they didn't update default Firwarriors at all other than refreshing the mold. Only added bits for Breachers. The Striker team looks identical to the old firewarriors other than being a little more crisp. So clearly you didn't do your homework. Firewarriors always looked great and still do considering they are basically the same model. People were upset they were giving them the sad frowny Breacher faces and taking away the old design, but that didn't happen because it looks really really good.
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Further evidence. The Tau Commander model was a fairly new model and got reboxed with new kit options for a Coldstar Commander. It was like 4-5 years old only if I recall correctly. People said that was unlikely. For feth's sakes the PLASTIC sisters of battle are here and you can't believe the Dark Eldar are going to get a troop update/rebox? That is astounding sir.
Vankraken wrote: That Fall of Cadia book (not sure if its a campaign book or a novel) has a Jan 7 preorder Jan 14 release which means its coming really soon. A new plastic Failbaddon should be popping up soon.
He ain't Failbaddon anymore if Cadia actually falls!
Of course I suppose the title might just mean Autumn on Cadia, 150 pages of Imperial characters admiring the red and gold leaves, drinking pumpkin spice lattes and going antiquing.
I'd watch that; antiquing in 40K means battling your way through a ruined underhive infested with a sea of mutant cults and rogue servitors to find the archaeotech
SKR.HH wrote: Really? I think DE Basic troops are more than fine... It would really surprise me.
People aid the same thing about the Tau Firewarriors and then boom Breachers. Exact same wording. it could very well just be a rebox with sprue options.
A lot of people also said that the old Fire Warriors where incredibly dated when compared to the much higher quality sculpt Pathfinders. It wasn't farfetched that they would update the 10+ year old sculpt for the base troop of a fairly popular faction.
Then you should know they didn't update default Firwarriors at all other than refreshing the mold. Only added bits for Breachers. The Striker team looks identical to the old firewarriors other than being a little more crisp. So clearly you didn't do your homework. Firewarriors always looked great and still do considering they are basically the same model. People were upset they were giving them the sad frowny Breacher faces and taking away the old design, but that didn't happen because it looks really really good.
But like you say, the new ones are much more crisp. The Kabalites and Whyches are crisp enough already, and easily stand up with the newer troop kits. The Fire Warriors didn't look dated in the design, but the actual quality of the models. They didn't just refresh the moulding either, the whole kit was recut, it's got different leg poses etc so it was resculpted, they just kept the design.
Gamgee, this meshed-together rumor from October(?) on Faeit you are refering to lately, has already several errors, and it is really hard to believe as it comes with a lot of nonsense too.
Several parts have been known for months (Sad Panda and Atia).
Also it mentions Thousand Sons and a Keeper of Secrets in an army boxed set. That's nonsense isnt it? Tz and Slaanesh mixed?
Meshing rumor stuff from different sources and offering it as new like what that rumor source on Faeit did lead to many disappointments in the past. With its current flaws it is already not of AAA quality. Pretre has tracked these rumors and we will see what will actually turn out to be true in the end.
Commissar Benny wrote: So it looks like Cadia will fall to Chaos. With Cadians essentially become Tanith 1st & Only, will we see plastic support for some of the older regiments or new ones introduced this year?
If we finally get a new unit of plastic Imperial Guard in the scale and quality of recent human infantry kits, and even better it's not the boring Cadians? Yeah, screw it, for that I can live with GW gaking on the background with their cack-handed timeline advancements.
It's called the Fall of Cadia and you expect it to not have Cadians...
Wow
I'm looking at it from a business perspective. The fall of Cadia finally means we can see some other regiments in plastic. After all we have what ...1-2 runs of Cadians in pewter metal, 1-2 runs of Cadians in plastic and more Cadians via Forgeworld? Anyone who plays IG and was interested in the Cadian aesthetic have made their investment. It makes sense for GW to move on. Obviously Cadians aren't going anywhere. There will still be billions of them in the universe after the fall of Cadia and who knows, maybe they will make a counter attack to regain Cadia.
Lorewise, this was expected. Cadians have been sending troops to fight in nearly every conflict in the galaxy. Is it any surprise that their home planet half occupied by Chaos finally fell? This is not to be confused with other regiments adorned in cadian equipment elsewhere in the universe. If you look at the troop allocations in some of the biggest conflicts in the universe you will find Cadians, yes Cadians from Cadia present fighting all over the universe.
SKR.HH wrote: Really? I think DE Basic troops are more than fine... It would really surprise me.
People aid the same thing about the Tau Firewarriors and then boom Breachers. Exact same wording. it could very well just be a rebox with sprue options.
A lot of people also said that the old Fire Warriors where incredibly dated when compared to the much higher quality sculpt Pathfinders. It wasn't farfetched that they would update the 10+ year old sculpt for the base troop of a fairly popular faction.
Then you should know they didn't update default Firwarriors at all other than refreshing the mold. Only added bits for Breachers. The Striker team looks identical to the old firewarriors other than being a little more crisp. So clearly you didn't do your homework. Firewarriors always looked great and still do considering they are basically the same model. People were upset they were giving them the sad frowny Breacher faces and taking away the old design, but that didn't happen because it looks really really good.
I have both the old and new fire warrior sculpts and the issue with the old kit was the lack of detail on the molds due to being some of the older plastic kits. The new kits have a lot more defined detail which surpasses the quality of the pathfinders which is exactly what they needed. Fire Warrior design was never the issue for needing a new kit. Bringing it back to Dark Eldar I personally don't think DE plastic are very dated as they have a lot of quality and hold up when compared to the more recent releases.
I dont believe in new plastic regiments because of a Fall of Cadia campaign book. There are several factions without a home in this game. Eldar, Tyranids, Space Marine chapters like Dark Angels, and many more.
Gamgee wrote: Ah I did not know that. Time to update my existing FW at any rate. Also check my edit.
The commander wasn't reboxed, it was resin before, resculpted into a plastic kit with the same design but bigger and with more options, like the Coldstar kit. It was resin originally like I said, which they're phasing out, so it wasn't a surprise that it got redone really.
Also I did not mesh rumor sources I clearly specified THREE rumor sources. I was not packaging it all as one big rumor. Just saying that these are the most pertinent rumors out there. Jeez. People need to learn to read better.
Gamgee wrote: Also I did not mesh rumor sources I clearly specified THREE rumor sources. I was not packaging it all as one big rumor. Just saying that these are the most pertinent rumors out there. Jeez. People need to learn to read better.
I didnt mean you meshing but that original rumor (which was also quoted on the Dark City forum)
You know what Gangs of Commoragh could have? Captain Cortez of the Crimson Fists! He was the Space Marine Captain that was in the fighting pits. Sounds like a perfect way to bring Ol' Crazy Cortez back to the game. Hell, give my a Crimson Fists Detachment while we're at it!
The Sisters look good other than I don't like them being supported on scrolls.
But still I'm not holding my breath until I see matching foot sloggers to know this isn't just a Celestine + 2 bodyguards in a dataslate (or whatever the hell the kids are calling them) vs a proper Sisters codex and full range of plastics.
Celestine was the only thing that was moved to "last chance to buy", all the other stuff is listed as regular (though web only) sales, so at this point I'm not surprised, I will be when they replace the other stuff that hasn't been listed as "last chance".
Ah. Still it offers a potential explanation and the DE person teased with the robes and gems fits the description of Sythrac quite well. Which lends more credence to that part of the rumor being at least a little right.
Edit
A recent sisters rumor said 4 kits. No idea how reliable that is. If that is true some might make two options? Hard to say. Assuming it happens.
I like, what i assume, is Celestine, and while the Seraphim look nice, sticking them to the base will be a nighttmare. But PLASTIC SISTERS OH MY GAWD!!!!!!
Now here is the crazy thing folks. This is just a tease of this year. They didn't show us everything that is to come out. Just a small look ahead. Let your minds be blown.
The Kroot is with me, and I am one with the Kroot.
Gamgee wrote: Now here is the crazy thing folks. This is just a tease of this year. They didn't show us everything that is to come out. Just a small look ahead. Let your minds be blown.
I don't like to pre blow my mind. I'll be impressed when GW actually release things I want to buy and not before
Grimmor wrote: I like, what i assume, is Celestine, and while the Seraphim look nice, sticking them to the base will be a nighttmare. But PLASTIC SISTERS OH MY GAWD!!!!!!
The pain that you are going to feel while you will build the kits will purge your soul from any sin, making you worthy of playing the holy orders of the Adepta Sororitas.
Gamgee wrote: Now here is the crazy thing folks. This is just a tease of this year. They didn't show us everything that is to come out. Just a small look ahead. Let your minds be blown.
I don't like to pre blow my mind. I'll be impressed when GW actually release things I want to buy and not before
True enough, but I'm a big DE fan. Not as crazy as Tau or Kroot but you know they got some style and they screw everyone over. So any sort of DE release is going to get me interested unless its a boardgame with existing models since I have no one in real life to play it with now.
Grimmor wrote: I like, what i assume, is Celestine, and while the Seraphim look nice, sticking them to the base will be a nighttmare. But PLASTIC SISTERS OH MY GAWD!!!!!!
they're going to be easy enough to glue on based on my experience with the bulkier and potentially more top heavy (although they're not) Sigmarite prosecutors
Warhams-77 wrote: Gamgee, this meshed-together rumor from October(?) on Faeit you are refering to lately, has already several errors, and it is really hard to believe as it comes with a lot of nonsense too.
Several parts have been known for months (Sad Panda and Atia).
Also it mentions Thousand Sons and a Keeper of Secrets in an army boxed set. That's nonsense isnt it? Tz and Slaanesh mixed?
Meshing rumor stuff from different sources and offering it as new like what that rumor source on Faeit did lead to many disappointments in the past. With its current flaws it is already not of AAA quality. Pretre has tracked these rumors and we will see what will actually turn out to be true in the end.
I think it is fairly safe to assume that they meant Lord of Change.
But I am definitely not one to support Faeit or Bols.
I am just here enjoying how adorable it is that all of those nasty nasty bitter people who were so sure that there were no plastic sisters are dining on crow.
I think we should all take a moment to thank the photographer. It cannot be easy to take pictures of a magazine when you have no hands, and there's and earthquake going on.
So many thanks to the photographer. I hope the prosthetics come in soon, and that you move to somewhere that isn't near a fault line.
Anyway, yes, plastic Sisters. Pretty sure that's Celestine + 2 bodyguards, and that kit is going to be expensive as feth.
The Magos is pure sex. I am in love with that model. Why are we getting it? Is there a big AdMech release coming? Combined books? Skitarii with a fething HQ finally?
The Hereticus Inquisitrix is great. I've been saying for years that they should have made a model of her:
... and it seems they finally are.
Archonites? Cool. Disc-riding Tzaangors? Even cooler!
Fall of Cadia? As long as we get a boss new Failbaddon mini (like Arhiman) and not a failure of a mini (like Kharn) then that'll be good.
And based on the tagline for Gangs of BDSM, it looks to be bikes and hoverboards for them.
Bull0 wrote: I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth but the whole "scrolls as supports" look on jump troops annoys the hell out of me, I'm hoping they'll be easy enough to clip off. Otherwise, wow! They're all good models. Why are the "forge world exclusive" limited ed. space marines they're putting out so crap compared to this stuff?
I own this guy, and he's super bloody wobbly. I really do question how Celestine's model is going to work when the Knight Venator honestly looks more stable.
I own this guy, and he's super bloody wobbly. I really do question how Celestine's model is going to work when the Knight Venator honestly looks more stable.
Yeah, it puts me right off. Assuming the seraphim aren't ludicrously expensive and I do get some, I'll be making them *very* chunky supports from cities of death bits.
I own this guy, and he's super bloody wobbly. I really do question how Celestine's model is going to work when the Knight Venator honestly looks more stable.
Yeah, it puts me right off. Assuming the seraphim aren't ludicrously expensive and I do get some, I'll be making them *very* chunky supports from cities of death bits.
And that other Knight dude is supported by 2 scrolls instead of 1 like the Seraphim. Having 1 support makes it less than half as rigid if they're similar thickness.
BloodGrin wrote: I think it is fairly safe to assume that they meant Lord of Change.
But I am definitely not one to support Faeit or Bols.
I am just here enjoying how adorable it is that all of those nasty nasty bitter people who were so sure that there were no plastic sisters are dining on crow.
I would give them the KoS mistake but am still very cautious regarding that highly detailed list. If it turns out to be correct, which if we look back to the early spanish 'WFB will get replaced-rumors' from 2012 which were doubted but were correct in the end, can happen. I prefer being cautious, while known sources have my support (because they are criitical of themselves and make sure the info is valid), but the anonymous ones from Faeit are often wrong. I always congratulate sources that were correct, no matter what they looked like at the beginning.
Gamgee wrote: GLORIOUS dakkadakka forum I once again bring my humble self to tell you one message. Thank games workshop for me. I was the chosen one who above all others called "it" and predicted a great deal of releases. Particularly with the Dark Eldar model. Shout out to the dark city tho for helping analyse that picture.
Anyways I am super hyped for the Dark Eldar board game? Sounds fun. Likely see a whole host of cool models. Thedarkcity is basically on party mode right now. Now I wonder... if people will freak out when I think Ultramar will fall to the Tau + others. Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen. Haha.
Do we have a picture of the actual Dark Eldar model?
Ultramar isn't going to fall to the Tau. It didn't fall to the most powerful single Hive Fleet gathering (Behemoth focused it's entire force into one hammer blow, unlike the tendrils of later hive fleets) ever seen, it certainly isn't going to fall to a race who's fleet gets swept aside by an angry look from the Imperial Navy.
I suspect that the next time the Ultramarines make an appearance in a campaign it'll be against Red Corsairs or something similiar, since 2017 seems like it's going to be the year of Chaos. After all, 2016 was supposed to be the year of Sigmar...
casvalremdeikun wrote: You know what Gangs of Commoragh could have? Captain Cortez of the Crimson Fists! He was the Space Marine Captain that was in the fighting pits. Sounds like a perfect way to bring Ol' Crazy Cortez back to the game. Hell, give my a Crimson Fists Detachment while we're at it!
I'm hoping Gangs of Commoragh is a Gorka Morka or Necromunda re-do - Commoragh has so many different gangs, Kabals, Cults, non-DE Pirates/Mercs/Scum, and more, that doing anything short of something like Necromunda would do the Dark City a disservice. I mean, escaped gangs of slaves battling it out in the streets against Wych Cults? Hell - it could be a way to hint at the Khans return (a white armoured giant leading the slaves?). It would also be an amazing way to bring back old Special Characters for DE and give them rules in 40k and GoC, new Archons, Succubi, Reaver HQs...
I'm hoping Gangs of Commoragh is a Gorka Morka or Necromunda re-do - Commoragh has so many different gangs, Kabals, Cults, non-DE Pirates/Mercs/Scum, and more, that doing anything short of something like Necromunda would do the Dark City a disservice. I mean, escaped gangs of slaves battling it out in the streets against Wych Cults? Hell - it could be a way to hint at the Khans return (a white armoured giant leading the slaves?). It would also be an amazing way to bring back old Special Characters for DE and give them rules in 40k and GoC, new Archons, Succubi, Reaver HQs...
My educated guess is it's more like a jetbike racing version of Kill Team.
I'm hoping Gangs of Commoragh is a Gorka Morka or Necromunda re-do - Commoragh has so many different gangs, Kabals, Cults, non-DE Pirates/Mercs/Scum, and more, that doing anything short of something like Necromunda would do the Dark City a disservice. I mean, escaped gangs of slaves battling it out in the streets against Wych Cults? Hell - it could be a way to hint at the Khans return (a white armoured giant leading the slaves?). It would also be an amazing way to bring back old Special Characters for DE and give them rules in 40k and GoC, new Archons, Succubi, Reaver HQs...
My educated guess is it's more like a jetbike racing version of Kill Team.
Bleh. I guess that's alright. I mean, it's like a skirmish game light, but... bleh.
Maybe they'll make a decent campaign system and it'll still be okay.
Kanluwen wrote: I went to bed in a world where plastic Sisters were a "maybe"...and then I wake up to this?
2017 can't get here soon enough. Unless it brings new plastic Cadians, then it can screw off!
Since the Cadians carry the team elsewhere, all of the non-Cadian regiments are destroyed on Cadia, leaving only Cadians and Cadian models in the future.
Not only are they getting new model but Sister are taking the leading role over space marines in upcoming story progression?! Man, its awful quite on the negative side except the occasional sigmarine whisper and I like it, GW realy just knocking it out of the park. Sure somethings aren't the greatest but if we expect everthing to be perfect we're bound to be disappointed.
Two of the most neglected armies getting much needed love back to back, doesn't get much better than this. Bring it on SoB players, the Iron warriors are ready to finish tearing down you're crumbling Imperium that we started 10,000 years ago!
That dark eldar game looks interesting. I imagine that it's going to be a bunch of hellions and hopefully something else but if the value is good I might get it. Dark Eldar has been calling to me for a while now.
"Hey gang, in case you missed Rob's message -2017 is 40K's 30th anniversary. So we're kicking the year off with a bang and ramping up from there. Don't worry, your galaxy will still be here at the end of it. Just sporting some cool new editions and the remnants of epic confrontations!"
Ugh, so they're pretty much just going to blether on about exactly how they're going to ruin the story. Models you gits, models is what we want to know about.
reds8n wrote: via the twitch steam , from the GW guys
"Hey gang, in case you missed Rob's message -2017 is 40K's 30th anniversary. So we're kicking the year off with a bang and ramping up from there. Don't worry, your galaxy will still be here at the end of it. Just sporting some cool new editions and the remnants of epic confrontations!"
Is this the fastest they've ever put a product on last chance to buy and then had it's replacement appear? Aslo. HNNNNNGGG!! at those pics! I'm thinking at least two Celestine's. I want to convert one with proper angel wings like my metals.
I love how those 2 sisters jetpack exhausts are like the pipes from an organ and will make them look like flaming wings when ignited. Now that is the Imperium swag,
Oh wait, isn't the fluff that the imperium made a deal with the DE in order to fix the broken golden throne? So that Cawl dudes mission is to make sure it doesn't break down?
MadCowCrazy wrote: I think this could be really bad news for the Sisters, could mean we wont see proper sisters models for month.
On the opposite point it pretty much guarantees we will see plastic sisters at some point soon, as if they can make these, they can make normal sisters as well.
My Open-ended prediction: Cawl (as many assume) has a running deal with Deldar for tech to keep stuff working in the Golden Throne; so it stands to reason that with Abaddon running to Terra to kill the Emperor, in order to get to Terra first, the Dark Eldar open up webway portals to get the Templars and Sisters there faster.
His Master's Voice wrote: What would DE know about the technology used in the construction of the Golden Throne? AFAIK it's based on Dark Age archeotech, not xenotech.
Well, they're one of the most technologically advanced races in the setting who are familiar with warptech and mercenary enough to strike a deal. If anyone can do it, they'd fit the bill.
Of course, I maintain that trusting the Dark Eldar with the cornerstone holding up the entire Imperium is a fantastically stupid idea.
Oh yeah, it does seem like they are travelling into a webway portal, damn the Chaplain is not going to be happy when those boys get back to the cruiser.
His Master's Voice wrote: What would DE know about the technology used in the construction of the Golden Throne? AFAIK it's based on Dark Age archeotech, not xenotech.
It's a device that burns souls to prolong life, tho.
Guys... the biggest revelation is still that this info all came direct from Games Workshop. I'm still largely speechless at their turning around of social media presence from 'absent' to 'mini-stars in Rob and Duncan'.
The Eldar (and the Dark Eldar) do have an interest in keeping the Imperium propped up. So it's not too crazy a possibility.
Or it could just be a retainer of the Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor. Typically, unless it's within their area of responsibility, an Inquisitor doesn't really care too much.
His Master's Voice wrote: What would DE know about the technology used in the construction of the Golden Throne? AFAIK it's based on Dark Age archeotech, not xenotech.
It's a device that burns souls to prolong life, tho.
Crazyterran wrote: The Eldar (and the Dark Eldar) do have an interest in keeping the Imperium propped up. So it's not too crazy a possibility.
Or it could just be a retainer of the Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor. Typically, unless it's within their area of responsibility, an Inquisitor doesn't really care too much.
Some of them even want the IoM to fall, so that it would stop doing all the idiotic things they do. I would love it if they brought that back.
Oh yeah, it does seem like they are travelling into a webway portal, damn the Chaplain is not going to be happy when those boys get back to the cruiser.
That was my line of thinking entirely, everyone is walking uphill to a bright shiny light. That screams webway portal. "Hey Vect, here's some slaves, now get us to Terra asap."
Assuming 8th doesn't stunt any armies the way Sigmar did to Fantasy, it'll definitely offer up good reasons for more contention amongst "good" and "evil" armies. Craftworlders aren't going to be happy about the dark kin being used, the Dark Eldar are certainly not going to stick to any promises they make, some imperial armies will see this as pure heresy and I can understand power armor fighting power armor over differences in how Terra is defended.
And then there's all the talk about a returning Primarch keeping everyone at odds...
Honestly, that little bit at the end of Wrath of Magnus about
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the highlords giving a sealed letter that many assume is going to be used to OK the awakening of a Primarch may in fact be the OKing of releasing Saint Celestine. To me, Im totally cool with that. Sisters need a little love and we need a good heroine.
Fair enough, but my point is that the whole thing was built with human tech, something that's hardly going to be compatible with xeno solutions, even if the subject matter is similar.
Unless of course it's not about making sure the Throne does not fail and instead about making sure it finally works as intended. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Emperor ascending.
Fair enough, but my point is that the whole thing was built with human tech, something that's hardly going to be compatible with xeno solutions, even if the subject matter is similar.
Unless of course it's not about making sure the Throne does not fail and instead about making sure it finally works as intended. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Emperor ascending.
Wasn't the Emperor working on access to the webway using irreplaceable alien tech that Magnus destroyed with his peekaboo into the palace?
I thought that project was meant to be a separate, human controlled webway that shared the principle of web travel, but not the existing infrastructure?
Dunno, maybe my lore-fu is just rusty and it all makes sense.
Oh yeah, it does seem like they are travelling into a webway portal, damn the Chaplain is not going to be happy when those boys get back to the cruiser.
That was my line of thinking entirely, everyone is walking uphill to a bright shiny light. That screams webway portal. "Hey Vect, here's some slaves, now get us to Terra asap."
Assuming 8th doesn't stunt any armies the way Sigmar did to Fantasy, it'll definitely offer up good reasons for more contention amongst "good" and "evil" armies. Craftworlders aren't going to be happy about the dark kin being used, the Dark Eldar are certainly not going to stick to any promises they make, some imperial armies will see this as pure heresy and I can understand power armor fighting power armor over differences in how Terra is defended.
And then there's all the talk about a returning Primarch keeping everyone at odds...
Honestly, that little bit at the end of Wrath of Magnus about
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the highlords giving a sealed letter that many assume is going to be used to OK the awakening of a Primarch may in fact be the OKing of releasing Saint Celestine. To me, Im totally cool with that. Sisters need a little love and we need a good heroine.
Regarding your spoiler, you do realize that it was about
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the Sisters of Silence
right? It pretty clearly referred to a
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warrior order, not a single being
and it even has an artwork of one on the very next page just to make it all the more obvious.
Anyway, I'm not sure if that artwork is a sign of full Dark Eldar involvement alongside the Imperium or if it is just some kind of retainer or advisor for one of the new characters. Of all the Chapters to be found allying with xenos for any reasons, Black Templars are one of the most unlikely surely? Desperate times I guess...
Thargrim wrote: And just after I blew all my money on blood bowl, can't say I regret that though. But now money is gonna be tight. The deciding factor for me though will be the look of the regular troops, and if they get their own book. They do look good in gold, but i really liked the black and red...hmm.
it appearse that saint celestine gets a new model, so she most likely will get printed rules. So a new codex seems very likely
It says it right in the video that St. Celestine's rules are in the Fall of Cadia book. Explains her not being in C:IA, perhaps with her two not Seraphim (I heard on B&C they were called Gemini???) they are a formation or two from the FoCadia book?
Doesn't necessarily mean a new Codex or anything else for that matter. We should try not to turn this into OMG fifteen new boxes of plastics Sisters!!!! GW did just repackage and re-release the metal ones less than a week ago. New FoCadia book, new Celestine and twins kit(s), rumor confirmed that a plastic SoB kit will be released in January.
Apart from the three models, that just means SoB players have to drag around more than one book to have all their rules. Yay we get to join the club! All I see for my SoB so far is the chance to use some of my Seraphim superiors with power weapons again for counts as Gemini (if thats what those two are called).
That Inquisitor though, she wrecks me, gorgeous model.
Also the "rules for everyone to use" sounds suspicious to me. I wouldn't be surprised if we are going to get a preview of 8th Edition rules in this book ala End Times Archaon which introduced formations/battalions to Warhammer Fantasy months before Age of Sigmar hit.
His Master's Voice wrote: I thought that project was meant to be a separate, human controlled webway that shared the principle of web travel, but not the existing infrastructure?
Dunno, maybe my lore-fu is just rusty and it all makes sense.
So according to the recent HH book Emperor of Mankind:
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The Big E. patched into the webway using a Martian copy of the webway tech. to attach Terra into the nearest bit of Webway. Magnus warning the Big E. broke the wards that were protecting the webway and allowed both Demons, Titans and Tratior legions into the webway. The Big E. then used up much of the Custodies, Silent Sisters and Terra bound Mechanicum fighting them off from reaching Terra while the Big E. tried to keep the remaining wards in place from the Golden Throne. The Big E. was fixated with not losing the webway, as soon as he gave up all hope and turned off the gateway on Terra he said he had lost the war he had been fighting against the Chaos Gods to protect Mankind from the Warp by using the Webway as seemingly living space for Mankind.
I'm a bit confused by the Celestine kit, is like a larger blister with 3 models instead of 1? What is the point of her bodyguard? Does that mean she isn't an IC and can't join another unit?
So is she basically 3 WS4 S3 T3 I3 Seraphim? Has her 3W been turned into 2 other models that die before she does?
Crazyterran wrote: The Eldar (and the Dark Eldar) do have an interest in keeping the Imperium propped up. So it's not too crazy a possibility.
Or it could just be a retainer of the Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor. Typically, unless it's within their area of responsibility, an Inquisitor doesn't really care too much.
The odd thing it's that the Eldar with the inquisitor don't give a strong vibe about being fully dark Eldar,the way the helmet and the right shoulders are designed reminds me of a shinning spear.
Maybe it's Drastanta their Phoenix Lord who's been gone since Asurmen died for 1st time. (after all is the end of times and all Phoenix lord must die according to the Rhana Dhandra)
MadCowCrazy wrote: I'm a bit confused by the Celestine kit, is like a larger blister with 3 models instead of 1? What is the point of her bodyguard? Does that mean she isn't an IC and can't join another unit?
So is she basically 3 WS4 S3 T3 I3 Seraphim? Has her 3W been turned into 2 other models that die before she does?
It may have different rules like the conclave of burning one from the necros, having etra saves or fnp while her bodyguards are around , even different stats.
I'm pretty sure they said no re-release of codexes before 8th. So a sisters codex isn't likely till after the new edition. The Codex: Imperial Agents wasn't really anything of the sort, just a place to lump a bunch of different previously unprinted items into print. Campaign books and story advancement are coming but we're not supposed to get new codexes until the new edition.
His Master's Voice wrote: I thought that project was meant to be a separate, human controlled webway that shared the principle of web travel, but not the existing infrastructure?
Dunno, maybe my lore-fu is just rusty and it all makes sense.
No, the Emp's plan was always to use the old one constructed webway.
Magnus was to sit on the Golden Throne on Terra as a sort of intergalatic airport controller, but one who could journey off and see/go pretty much anywhere using remote viewing/astral travel/etc etc .
Unfortunately this inbuilt curiosity led him down other pathways first of all....
.. which led to him breaching the webway portal in the Palace and , almost literally, unleashing hell there.
So the Emperor sent Russ to Prospero to bring Magnus back -- so he could be sat on the throne to stave off the daemonic assault...
.. but Horus/pride/anger --combination of all of them -- instead set Russ to kill Magnus, thus keeping the Emperor occupied.
MadCowCrazy wrote: I'm a bit confused by the Celestine kit, is like a larger blister with 3 models instead of 1? What is the point of her bodyguard? Does that mean she isn't an IC and can't join another unit?
So is she basically 3 WS4 S3 T3 I3 Seraphim? Has her 3W been turned into 2 other models that die before she does?
Almost certainly not. She won't be anywhere near her previous points.
Caederes wrote: Also the "rules for everyone to use" sounds suspicious to me. I wouldn't be surprised if we are going to get a preview of 8th Edition rules in this book ala End Times Archaon which introduced formations/battalions to Warhammer Fantasy months before Age of Sigmar hit.
They also said that "no matter what you collect there will be something for you in 2017"...
The Eye of Terror is about to open and unleash a tide of darkness, Daemons and traitors into an already beset Imperium. Against the unified might of the Traitor Legions stand the heroes of the Cadian Gate, who will stop at nothing to drive back the Gathering Storm.
The scene is set for the most epic narrative in the history of the 41st Millennium – a fitting celebration of 30 years of Warhammer 40,000 and a great way to kick off the next 30 years of grim darkness in the far future.
The Gathering Storm begins with the epic events detailed in the Fall of Cadia – available for pre-order on January 7th.
The miniatures accompanying the first Gathering Storm book represent a few of the factions that stand against the Legions of Chaos, including: our first plastic Inquisitor miniature, the huge and hunched form of an ancient Archmagos Dominus, and the angelic Saint Celestine, resurrected (or possibly, saved from the dust bin) leading the Imperium’s armies.
Inquisitor Greyfax
Inquisitor Greyfax
Belisarius Cawl
Belisarius Cawl
Saint Celestine and the Geminae Superia
Saint Celestine and the Geminae Superia
Also, we intercepted a few transmissions in the Cadian Sector…
Subscribers to our Twitch Channel can watch back the live-stream at twitch.tv/warhammer, which includes some discussion about the new book and gorgeous, 360* views of the miniatures.
Caederes wrote: Also the "rules for everyone to use" sounds suspicious to me. I wouldn't be surprised if we are going to get a preview of 8th Edition rules in this book ala End Times Archaon which introduced formations/battalions to Warhammer Fantasy months before Age of Sigmar hit.
They elaborated that this meant scenarios to play, to recreate the battles in the book.
JohnnyHell wrote: On Celestine, SURELY they could have embossed the script so a wash would pick it up, vs the nightmare of that amount of freehand? :-P
Pretty sure that would compromise the integrity of the tabards that are holding up the entire model. I.e. it would create easy places for the tabards to 'snap' Looks like tons of Freehand it is!
Latro_ wrote: Books surfacing detailing a campaign of dramatic events leading to a big climax (WZ fenris, this one)
Rumours of 8th edition next year...
seems very familiar
I'm sure they learnt their lesson on the whole "we want a point system". No, that's actually not sarcasm.
From what I heard AoS is a pretty good game now (I'm just not into Fantasy wargaming at all, so I have zero personal experience there), so I'm looking forward to 8th edition or whatever it's going to be called.
What a beautiful release. Can't wait for the AoS reveals tomorrow either. I don't play or plan to start any of these armies (other than maybe AdMech, DAT ARCHMAGOS), but I'm so happy to see GW doing this sort of thing.
The pregnant techpriest looks like something Kingdom Death might come up with rather than GW...
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StupidYellow wrote: Well according to that, this may be the only plastic sisters we see (referenced the plastic sisters in the bin)
S.Y.
I fear this will be the only plastic sisters we see until 8E. I also fear the Sisters codex will be copy paste for the 4th time without any of the problems fixed...
Totalwar1402 wrote: Have they said what the Gemini are? I am guessing they must be sort of mini living saints if they can appear alongside Saint Celestine.
I am hoping she gives crazy buffs to armies of the Imperium.
The Sisters of Twilight from the Wood Elves found themselves a new job?
Crazyterran wrote: The Eldar (and the Dark Eldar) do have an interest in keeping the Imperium propped up. So it's not too crazy a possibility.
Or it could just be a retainer of the Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor. Typically, unless it's within their area of responsibility, an Inquisitor doesn't really care too much.
The odd thing it's that the Eldar with the inquisitor don't give a strong vibe about being fully dark Eldar,the way the helmet and the right shoulders are designed reminds me of a shinning spear.
Maybe it's Drastanta their Phoenix Lord who's been gone since Asurmen died for 1st time. (after all is the end of times and all Phoenix lord must die according to the Rhana Dhandra)
Thats quite obviously Kabalite Armour, though highly styalised (and definitely not an Incubus Warsuit), that helmet is actually identical to one on the Kabalite Warrior sprue. I expect him to be an Archon, or maybe a Dracon.
Totalwar1402 wrote: Have they said what the Gemini are? I am guessing they must be sort of mini living saints if they can appear alongside Saint Celestine.
I am hoping she gives crazy buffs to armies of the Imperium.
Normal Sisters fight alongside St C but we have no info on these two ladies other than their name.
Gamgee wrote: There were rumors of a sisters vs dark eldar starter set. How much you want to bet they mistook this boardgame? I bet it will be DE vs Sisters.
I think the Sisters boxed thing might be Sisters & Black Templars vs Cadian Gate (Chaos), some sort of campaign at the very least judging from the warhammer TV clip.
Automatically Appended Next Post: If it was Sisters vs DE what kits would the DE get? What are the missing? Grotesques, Beastmasters + beasts and Incubi are all I can think of atm.
Special characters are really the only DE models that need a kid update, IMO. They need new rules more than they need new models.
Grotesques, Incubi, Mandrakes, Beastmasters + Beasts, Vect, potentially Bloodbrides and Trueborn. Not counting any new units. But agreed on the new rules. Make the Void Raven half decent again!
Okay, GW. What the hell? I just got to the point where my current pile of shame is at a manageable level, and you go and leak both Tzeentch Arcanites and SoB in one day! Is there a word for the emotional combination of elation and exasperation?
Gargantuan wrote:Wow! That Magos is a horrible miniature. Looks like someone covered it in glue and dropped it in a bits box.
Pretty sure that's exactly how the Mechanicus get dressed in the morning.
I think Celestine suffers from being released alongside the fantastic miniatures that are Belisarius Cawl and Inquistor Greyfax, to be honest. It's a good model, but those two are amazing models.
I am Gemini so the Sisters are obviously badass legends.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Really hoping to see a paint scheme on that Saint so the wings are almost blended to produce the image of blazing wings and make sword all fiery while the eyes are white hot with fury!
I can't see this character being the only plastic sister, it doesn't make sense to have players collect a shiny new plastic hero and then have to take out a mortgage for the old metal stuff.
That Celestine could look pretty sweet if you add her chains back on her feet and fray her robes a little bit. Just giving her a slightly more grimdark twist.
So a little bit more of this: