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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/11 18:42:24


Post by: Plodmarine


I'm a bit of a kitbasher, or a lot of one, not sure I've had anything that I've built straight out of the box for a long while. I've decided that I want to do a project that I can centre around kitbashing, converting and sculpting to improve my skills and build something unique and personal. However, I'm also painfully uneducated regarding the fluff, though I will be catching up on the relevant material to help me build this army. Regardless, I'm doing my own thing because it's fun. And it takes longer, which means more entertainment value for my cash.

So, I've had a fascination with True-scale for a little while, and finally got my plasti-card delivered last week. So far, with some help from other inspiring blogs on and off Dakka, I've worked out my method for scaling up...and I've knocked out the first 2 with what I had laying around and begun painting. A little light on cash after xmas, so once I'm flush a full tactical squad to follow.

I'll post pictures soon.



Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/11 19:16:52


Post by: Plodmarine


So I got started with the plasti-card, only spare legs I had were some running legs from the sm vanguard squad, though actually quite keen on them now. Chopped those up as you see in the pics and got those spacers in. I don't want them to be huge art-scale marines, just to look tall and closer to proportionate superhumans, rather than squat gorillas.

I first widened the torso by 1mm each side, then extended the body by adding a plastic spacer to the waist, and filled around it with gs (greenstuff). Once happy with the positions, I smoothed out the torso and picked a helmet.

The arms I originally picked just didn't work, if running your arms would theoretically move opposing your legs, not tick-tocking like in the pic with the sword arm. As such, I customised an old bolted by cutting the mag off, drilled and cut the recess for the mag housing and made 2 spare mags. Why 2? The empty mag for the floor and a fresh one for his hand.


Didn't take any pics of this, but I rotated the supporting hand on the left, and crushed it around the mag, with a dab of poly cement to hold tight.

I'll post more


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Not happy with those pics, they looked the right way up, will work on how to turn them around in future posts.



Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/11 20:08:33


Post by: evildrcheese


Cool cool. Always interesting to see true scale marines, especially if there's gonna be a decent amount of kitbashing/converting too.

Looking forward to more.

EDC


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/11 20:38:48


Post by: Plodmarine


So, first guy built, I'll be using him as a rough guide for size, but not forgetting that his running pose will add a bit of height too.

The next model I've started on is a little different. I've got the Blood Ravens Librarian from the Deathwatch kit, and yes, I'm bashing him.
I've removed all of the deathwatch insignia from the model, some with a scalpel, other bits with GS. Since this mini comes in a different format to the squads, I had to do quite a bit of chopping. Sadly I got a bit wrapped up and forgot the photography element here, but I basically separated him into legs and torso, then added size. Because of the intricate detail on the greaves, I decided not to chop those, putting the lower leg spacer under each foot.

I then separated the feet from the legs and the legs from the groin. I put spacers in at the soft armour, and once it was all dry got to posing him with a little white tac. Once I was happy, I glued it all in place, using a little blob of gs on each foot to rejoin to the legs, to help with repositioning but also adding height.

For the torso, I cut out the abdomen completely, cleaned up the upper body and then once the legs were set, used a good ball of GS to reconstruct the abdomen and the power cables on top. Smoothed it with a little Vaseline and left to dry.

Now, for that left arm...couldn't use the one in the pack, but I have plenty of spares. I took a pistol arm and a plasma pistol, also from the vanguard squad (I figured as a command figure it should be decorative) and set that up with the marked blood ravens shoulder pad. I the. Used a little green stuff and made another decorative pad into one with the librarian ram skull, for the power sword arm.

I haven't got pics, but you'll notice the gap between his left leg and loincloth, I rebuilt that with a bit more green stuff, doing my best to recreate the detail I removed in the chopping phase.

I've done more, paintwork has begun on both, but I'll post progress on that in a future post.

Thanks for looking EDC



Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/12 20:47:22


Post by: Plodmarine


Painting progress so far, neither are finished, but will showcase the completed minis when I get there.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/28 22:22:27


Post by: Plodmarine


Some progress, I've done a little painting, which I haven't documented as I get far too into it to stop, and I've also begun a new marine. I've taken a pair of walking/left leg forward legs from the deathwatch kill team kit, and I'll be putting this mini in the weaver shooting stance, with a pistol, with main weapon hanging from a sling post transition. For the arms I'll be using vehicle crew arms and probably some other bits like a left hand from the tactical squad bolter arms.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/28 22:56:50


Post by: DaemonJellybaby


This looks great so far, keep it up and take more pictures if you can.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/28 23:17:07


Post by: Plodmarine


DaemonJellybaby wrote:
This looks great so far, keep it up and take more pictures if you can.


Thanks, always good to know if I'm going in the right direction. More on the way shortly.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/29 00:47:59


Post by: Plodmarine


I've got a rough stance sorted for the pistol guy now, and I've organised his primary weapon that will dangle from a sling and a sword that I'm going to put on his back/backpack with a little green stuff for a scabbard. Took a lot of jiggery pokery to get those hands in the right spot, but once they were there straight in with the superglue for a quick fix in place.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/29 22:27:23


Post by: Plodmarine


Green stuff work on the torsos for my pistol toting marine and another from the tactical squad. I have a bit more to do with filling out the upper bodies to the widened shoulders and some filling work to do on the legs with liquid green stuff. More to follow soon.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/01/30 00:13:18


Post by: doghouse


Very nice work on those they look great.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/03 07:08:28


Post by: Plodmarine


I've moved on a little with the green stuff work, and have widened both marines bodies out by .5mm each side, filling the body out with gs to match the original curves, and a dab of Vaseline to smooth it all over. More pics of completed torsos to follow.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/03 10:28:58


Post by: evildrcheese


Looking good dude.

The blue armour on the Librarian turned out really well by the way.

EDC


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/03 16:24:29


Post by: JoeRugby


Great stuff dude

Love the 2 handed pistol grip dude


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/04 03:17:53


Post by: KillaCam


Looking great. I'll be checking back in. How'd you paint the red?


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/04 17:50:48


Post by: Plodmarine


evildrcheese wrote:Looking good dude.

The blue armour on the Librarian turned out really well by the way.

EDC


Thanks EDC! I was pleased too, neither are finished yet, I seem to have gotten too engrossed in the modelling side of things, new challenges and all that.

JoeRugby wrote:Great stuff dude

Love the 2 handed pistol grip dude


Thanks Joe, I've seen it possible in other projects and wondered why the kits don't supply more realistic or dynamic ranges of motion, the goal will be to do more realistic actions and stances with the whole army. Appreciate the feedback very much.

KillaCam wrote:Looking great. I'll be checking back in. How'd you paint the red?


Thanks Killa, good to hear. If I remember correctly, I start with a black undercoat, then a base layer of khorne red. Then, based on where the light falls I apply a mix of khorne and mephiston reds to the lighter areas, using the greatest ratio of mephiston at the area most exposed. So the goal is a gradient, I haven't mastered it yet but I'll get there. I usually knock it back a shade or two on the middle of the process using carroburg crimson shade, and maybe some Nuln oil. Highlights are with wild rider red.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/04 18:07:52


Post by: Plodmarine


A few more shots below of progress, also had a play about with my pistol toter, but I think I'll do the later stance on another marine and keep the weaver position.

Also, I finished my chaplain, although he's not true-scale (I made the decision after converting this one) I think I'll get away with it due to the models pose and height...for now until I get really good at this. I took the blood angels chaplain model, modified his shoulder pad, weapon and jump pack. I really like the black wings, I may do this with the assault squad, assuming I can get a good set of wings together.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
N.B sorry about the sideways pictures, I thought I'd solved that until now...



Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/04 19:09:52


Post by: Plodmarine


Kitting the lads up for action, and I've put together a single point sling for the pistol guy's main weapon, I guess for wysiwyg it would be a stalker pattern bolter? I wanted it to be a longer barrelled bolter, emphasising the necessity for a pistol in close quarters.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/04 20:29:48


Post by: Plodmarine


More progress, pretty much ready for an undercoat now and I'll assemble it all later on.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
This sideways photo thing is getting old now, particularly given my efforts to hold the phone upright each time... must find a way to stop it.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/04 23:35:30


Post by: Plodmarine


Here's a bit of paintwork on the latest marines, all done with an undercoat of black, then a thin layer of khorne red, followed by a mix of khorne and mephiston reds ranging from 3:1 to 0:1 at the lightest parts. Now a coat of crimson shade to darken it again and smoothen the gradient and I'll do the highlights and details after.

Still experimenting (read arguing) with the camera over rotation of pics so please excuse whatever comes out.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/05 11:05:40


Post by: Plodmarine


Shade is dry, now they're a nice dark, dusty red, and ready for highlights and details.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/05 18:03:42


Post by: evildrcheese


Looking good. That bolter with the longer barrel is pretty sweet.

EDC


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/05 19:01:26


Post by: STG


Love all the effort that goes into each marine! really pays off.
It'll take an age to get a large force of these guys though (unless you get into killteam) But when you do they'll be stunning.

keep it up!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/06 00:42:38


Post by: Plodmarine


I've painted the next two to the same stage as the others. All that remains is fine details, such as text on parchment/seals and the Ravens Insignia. I better get that done before I start building and I get distracted again!

Here they are, unfinished but close...

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/06 02:04:25


Post by: lindsay40k


Nice work on the red there and good poses, subscribed


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/06 10:42:06


Post by: Plodmarine


evildrcheese wrote:Looking good. That bolter with the longer barrel is pretty sweet.

EDC


Thanks Doc! How would you play a long barrelled bolter?

STG wrote:Love all the effort that goes into each marine! really pays off.
It'll take an age to get a large force of these guys though (unless you get into killteam) But when you do they'll be stunning.

keep it up!


Thanks STG! I'm enjoying the process and each time it gets quicker and easier. I have at least 9 more to smash out though so I'm going to be non stop for a while. Kill team is ok, played that with my space wolves, but I've got some ideas for some speeders, aircraft and perhaps some truescale tanks. A full force will be awesome.

lindsay40k wrote:Nice work on the red there and good poses, subscribed


Thanks Lindsay! I feel the red looks better in the daylight though.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/06 12:00:03


Post by: lindsay40k


Oh, definitely, there's a world of difference between natural and artificial light. I find a satin varnish coat helps, it eliminates differences in the various paints' reflective properties.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/06 14:38:03


Post by: Plodmarine


 lindsay40k wrote:
Oh, definitely, there's a world of difference between natural and artificial light. I find a satin varnish coat helps, it eliminates differences in the various paints' reflective properties.


Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at that. Do you get from the citadel paint collection or another brand?

I'll post photos of all in daylight once I've got a finish I'm happy with.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/06 14:47:14


Post by: Master Azalle


Great Start! Can't wait to see more of your work.

A true scale army is on my horizon, they WIPs you take, the better


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/06 23:15:22


Post by: Plodmarine


 Master Azalle wrote:
Great Start! Can't wait to see more of your work.

A true scale army is on my horizon, they WIPs you take, the better


Thanks for your feedback! I intend to make a pretty detailed blog, almost a how to for those who want to, but it's also a journey of discovery, you learn tricks and ways to change or improve the process with each mini. More to come soon, I'll do it in a batch next I think.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/07 02:15:47


Post by: lindsay40k


Plodmarine wrote:
 lindsay40k wrote:
Oh, definitely, there's a world of difference between natural and artificial light. I find a satin varnish coat helps, it eliminates differences in the various paints' reflective properties.


Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at that. Do you get from the citadel paint collection or another brand?


Humbrols only for me. Never been impressed with a Citadel varnish.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/12 23:48:57


Post by: Plodmarine


So...just as expected I got distracted, and began modelling a few more minis. I had an Ahriman model from the burning prospero box, and despite initial concerns about chopping him I decided to go for it and make the mini more imposing with more "truescale" height. I haven't widened him at all as the mini is in my opinion too detailed and I'd rather not lose that intricate detail under greenstuff. Pics to follow, although not related to my Ravens.

I've begun another 2 Blood Ravens, one will be the sergeant for the tactical squad, pointing at an incoming enemy and drawing a pistol from its holster, the other, walking, no decision on arms/weapons yet.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/13 05:06:47


Post by: Monkeh


Loving the poses and scale and that paint scheme is totally on point! Love the depth of your red.

If I had one thing it'd be the thigh width. The plate around the thigh would mean they have gangly chicken legs. Outside that it's spot on! Awesome work!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/13 08:29:30


Post by: Plodmarine


Monkeh wrote:
Loving the poses and scale and that paint scheme is totally on point! Love the depth of your red.

If I had one thing it'd be the thigh width. The plate around the thigh would mean they have gangly chicken legs. Outside that it's spot on! Awesome work!


Thanks for your feedback. I very much agree on the width, I had been contemplating moving to termi legs but there's an additional cost and the limited poses to deal with, greater variety comes with the later marine kits (I sometimes buy spares/single pieces of it suits what I want). I know there's another blog on here where he builds the upper leg entirely from geeenstuff, I may try that at some point and gradually build up the width.



Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/13 20:56:56


Post by: Plodmarine


I've done a little painting, working towards final touches on the painted models. Mostly satisfied but not happy with the freehand Ravens insignia yet...I sense a do-over on some of these.

Anyone have any tips for painting the chapter logo/insignia neatly?

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/13 21:03:44


Post by: lindsay40k


My tip is use a mechanical pencil to sketch in the shape and keep checking it in a mirror - easiest way to spot errors in symmetry that your eye had got accustomed to


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/13 22:03:32


Post by: Plodmarine


 lindsay40k wrote:
My tip is use a mechanical pencil to sketch in the shape and keep checking it in a mirror - easiest way to spot errors in symmetry that your eye had got accustomed to


Thanks, I'll have a crack at that. More to come once I've redone those haha.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/14 03:01:46


Post by: Master Azalle


Honestly practice helps, so does using pencils and micron pens to outline


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/14 10:37:08


Post by: STG


Tip; practise practise practise.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/16 22:58:46


Post by: Plodmarine


So I've had some practice at the chapter insignia, using a mechanical pencil definitely helped. I'm still not 100% but I'll have to keep practicing on further models. Here's the results so far.

In addition, I've done more green stuff work on the next two units, and begun piecing them together ready for paint. (I may hold off at this point and build more so I can batch paint them, otherwise it's going to be very slow doing 2 at a time.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/17 00:21:22


Post by: STG


Nice mate, group shot looks rad!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/17 07:09:55


Post by: youwashock


Impressive looking group. Great poses.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/19 09:31:45


Post by: Plodmarine


A little more progress. I've redone the last one I modelled (last post 5th pic down right side), the pose just didn't look right. So I've given him a new pose and started work on a reflex sight for his bolter. I cut up an old auspex, removing the knobs and dials at the top, trimmed the edges to be symmetrical and made the screen recess into a full square by cutting the last corner out. I'll add a front screen to it and sculpt some rails, but for now I'm out of green stuff.

I've also begun modelling a batch of legs, 7 ready for filling/filing and building onto. When I get more GS I might try wider thighs as suggested, and see where it takes me.




Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/21 23:34:10


Post by: Plodmarine


Monkeh wrote:
Loving the poses and scale and that paint scheme is totally on point! Love the depth of your red.

If I had one thing it'd be the thigh width. The plate around the thigh would mean they have gangly chicken legs. Outside that it's spot on! Awesome work!


As per your suggestion I've had a play with the upper thighs (giggidy), and looking at the minis I am confident it will be better looking to do throughout. Pics below. Thanks again.

I used a small strip of green stuff for each thigh, a few mm narrower than the plastic itself. I wrapped it around and pressed it down (I will photograph this process at some point). Then I loaded up the carving tool that looks like a tiny flat spade with Vaseline and began smoothing. Once the free stuff looked smooth and even I carved some detail in similar to the marks on the plastic, using a scalpel.

I did find the lower leg greaves appeared a little narrow, the photo may not show it much but I used the same technique to wrap the outer 1/3 of the greaves and smoothed it in, just widening them slightly.

Open to feedback. It takes about 30- 40mins per model to widen the legs so it may not be worth doing all of them. I reckon it looks better than the termi legs too, I feel that it's closer to the power armour than converted terminator armour can get.



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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/22 03:03:07


Post by: lindsay40k


I think the thicker legs work. They're meant to be stronger than the biggest heavyweight fighters, and they've got extra weight to carry in their Black Carapace. They'd have proper chunky quads!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/22 04:49:01


Post by: Master Azalle


^ She's got a point


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/22 14:24:25


Post by: STG


Space marines dont skip leg day. noice


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/23 11:17:49


Post by: Plodmarine


Thanks for the feedback guys! Here's a bit more on space marine leg day...



Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/23 15:37:34


Post by: STG


How exactly are you making the legs fatter? i can see that its greenstuff, but whats the method?

Are you just putting a blob on and smoothing it out till the leg is much thicker?

Nice though.

Also click HERE to see a great thread on truescaling, he also has a great tutorial on posing that's worth looking at. have a read, i recommend.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/02/23 22:14:40


Post by: Plodmarine


STG Pretty much yeah, I wrap a strip around the thigh, and smooth it out. I then add a little detail to the panel (need to improve that). For the greaves I add a blob and smooth it to the outer edges with Vaseline, trying to keep the added width to the outer rear of the panel. Thanks for asking, reminds me to show how to...will take pics on the next go.

That thread looks awesome, I'll have a proper dig around it later. I like how he's changing the poses down to bending the toes...such detail!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/03/04 11:56:39


Post by: Plodmarine


As promised I've taken step by step pics of how I fatten up the legs. I'm expecting a couple of sideways pictures here, I was pretty carried away with the sculpting. I forgot to mention last time, once the green stuff is set I file out any wonky or rough areas the same as I would on plastic.

I've also found that paint doesn't like to stick to the green stuff, especially if like me you add water to thin out the under/base coats. I imagine this is the Vaseline I use to smooth it out, so I've tried washing them with cold water (glues don't like hot) and fairy liquid. Hopefully this will help. Anyone else have recommendations?



Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/03/04 12:09:18


Post by: evildrcheese


Looking good. I really like the reposing on the power fist guy.

EDC


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/03/04 12:32:18


Post by: STG


yeah, vaseline is a petroleum (oil) based substance, so if you scrub in fairy liquid you should be all good, as fairy liquid breaks down oils. dont ask me how but it works.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/03/06 03:36:01


Post by: lindsay40k


Instead of Vaseline, I find if I let GS set for a half hour or so after applying it to a surface, it is still workable but plain water is enough to keep it from sticking to tools. Much easier come the painting stage!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/03/07 14:24:17


Post by: Plodmarine


 lindsay40k wrote:
Instead of Vaseline, I find if I let GS set for a half hour or so after applying it to a surface, it is still workable but plain water is enough to keep it from sticking to tools. Much easier come the painting stage!


Good tip, might try that as Vaseline is getting on my nerves already. I used to use water straight out and had mixed results, but I'll try the waiting first.


Thanks for your feedback guys, I've got more on the way once painted, and another 8 or so to construct.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/03/12 22:48:38


Post by: Plodmarine


An update at last. I've had a bit of a busy week or 2, but have squeezed a fair bit of P+M in alongside work and decorating the house. I've got some group shots if the latest few marines I've been painting, and I've begun modelling a five more, which are at various stages. Some are a little simpler so I can actually play with the units, as much as I want a lot of personality it won't work if they are too many points or unplayable on a table.

I've also had a crack at updating the armour on a couple, during the widening process I've taken inspiration from the armour on some deathwatch legs (and the new Roboute Guilliman mini) and adapted two minis to have that look.

I'm not finished with the painting on these yet, some details still missing, and I want to redo the glass on the reflex sight as I'm not happy with it. Feedback appreciated as always, pics to follow.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/03/27 21:23:13


Post by: Plodmarine


So I've not posted for a while. I have some progress, with another 3 for the tactical squad almost complete (pics below), and a further 2 still in the posing process (just not settled on the arms yet). I've been working on the chapter logo, and practice and marking guidelines in pencil has helped a fair bit if I don't say so myself. I have however, also made a bit of a balls up...

I had debated whether or not to varnish these, after a small bout of Kill team I seemed to have rubbed/chipped a couple, repaired now but I want to avoid more of that. Back when I was a kid I used the citadel version, but I don't have many fond memories of it. To try something new I bought some Humbrol Satin Cote and set up an old space wolf as a test piece (one with a big piece of similar red to compare). Happy with this I moved to my current project...and here's where I slipped...

Rather than do one and wait, I stupidly assumed I would be as happy as with the test piece, so in my rush to get them done I did the lot...all of the current minis (bar the ones I've just been painting). And now, I look upon them and they just shine far too much. On the plus side the paint is solid now, no chance of chipping.

So, do I a) learn to deal with my error and move on, b) attempt to add enough weathering and battle damage (I intended to add some to the full group later anyway) to dull the shine, c) cover with a matt varnish (such as Humbrol Matt Cote) in the hope it improves the finish.

Open to suggestions.



On a positive note, I've had a spending spree and bought a Land Speeder storm, (more scouts to follow) and the Talons of the Emperor box set, of which the tanks and Contemptor will likely be used for the Blood Ravens army.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/03/28 16:23:11


Post by: STG


Chapter logo's look great. and yea man its no biggie, if you hit it with some matt cote over the top, no harm done.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/03/29 19:46:58


Post by: Plodmarine


 STG wrote:
Chapter logo's look great. and yea man its no biggie, if you hit it with some matt cote over the top, no harm done.


Thanks bud! I'll try to get a closer shot in better light. Matt Cote on my shopping list for start of the month


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/01 21:50:58


Post by: Plodmarine


My shine problem is solved! That was lucky. I tested the Humbrol Matt Cote and was more than satisfied so I've done the whole squad so far. For these guys, future change will only be a little weathering and basing. I've got 2 more in progress, part painted but working on the posing, and 5 more tactical marines to go. This should amount to a squad of 15, plus a veteran Sergeant. I may bump this up to 20 total for 2 squads of 10.

I have realised from a glance at the codex that the combo weapon guy may have to be "counts as" a bolter, due to my 10+ year absence I've forgotten who can have what and may have messed up there.

I've got one hell of a backlog now with the talons kit, but I've been thinking about kitbashing the Sanguinary guard squad for an assault crew, I really want them to have winged jump packs, like my converted BA chaplain. Another option would be the FW Raven Guard kit with winged packs but costly and more of a legion look to them.

Here's some pics...

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/09 22:08:27


Post by: Plodmarine


I've done a smidge more work on the ravens, setting up another torso and legs using my current method, I have just a few left to construct now and I've actually run out of 32mm bases for the time being. I used up the remaining green stuff from the last batch to make some decorative shoulder pads to spruce up the ravens. I made a couple of simple raised arrow "tactical squad" markings, and I was really liking the black wings on the first mini of the project...so I made a couple more. They aren't perfect, but I'm sure I'll get better. C + c welcome.

In addition to that, I unboxed the Talons of the Emperor and just had to build those Custodes! Problem is, despite saying I wouldn't, I could not leave them unconverted. When I lined the first one up next to a Blood Raven, they were about the same size. I'm not true- scaling these, but I did feel they could use a small boost in height and width to perhaps one head above my true scale minis, even if just to be on the shelf next to each other. I have no intention (yet at least) of fielding custodes with the Blood Ravens so not worried about that.

To do it I added a strip of 0.5mm plasticard under the feet, and boosted the torso up a bit with a ball of green stuff on the abdominal part. For now the heads are just white tacked on so I can pose later.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/12 21:23:15


Post by: Plodmarine


Painting has gone swimmingly for these custodes. While I was enjoying the gold, I did feel there was too much, and that detail was being hidden by the singular colour (although it will pop out with shade/highlighting). I had already decided I didn't want these guys to have the red, partly because painting these is my break away from a mostly red army, and partly because I want them to look truly domineering and imposing. As such, I added more black to the armour detail and excluded the red elements from the plumes and ropes. (I'm told they changed to black accessories for a period after the Horus Heresy anyway).

Gold is not complete yet, still needs highlighting, eye lenses are unpainted and I may do them bright blue, or perhaps red if I'm feeling conventional for once. Still to paint the force weapons and fine details, and edge highlights to finish the lot.

In terms of basing, I haven't decided yet, although where I've boosted the height a little the two resting their weapons will need something to rest upon, maybe a rock, skull or CSM helmet perhaps.



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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/13 08:55:27


Post by: STG


Those custodes are stunning! the black looks awesome!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/13 21:54:04


Post by: Plodmarine


Thanks dude! Can't wait to get them finished up. Really fun minis to build as well, I highly recommend.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/15 21:25:57


Post by: lindsay40k


How does the matt Humbrol go with metallics? Last time I tried it, it killed the pearlessence, but they have changed their varnishes since then


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/16 07:55:20


Post by: Plodmarine


 lindsay40k wrote:
How does the matt Humbrol go with metallics? Last time I tried it, it killed the pearlessence, but they have changed their varnishes since then


That's a good question. In my opinion the Matt cote hasn't dulled the metallics too much, but I often wash mine with lots of shade anyway as I like the dirty/dull look. I haven't tried it on the Custodes yet, but when they're finished I might do a test piece first, since assuming hasn't gone well for me so far haha.

I'll see what I can find and post a pic. I like the stuff though. Saving the Satin for something new and clean for contrast.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/16 08:24:37


Post by: Master Azalle


Wow those are beautiful! How did you paint the golden armor? Love the effect you have going on there.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/16 10:20:53


Post by: Plodmarine


Thanks very much! As yet unfinished, needs highlights. I did a primer base of chaos black spray, two thin coats (of course) of retributor armour for the base colour. Then I used Reikland Fleshshade to warm up the armour and add depth.

To me it looked too clean, so I then used Aggrax Earthshade all over. Once this dried and I had painted the other areas needing the next shade, I applied Nuln oil shade to the feet and lower legs, to darken and draw the eye up a bit more

I had seen a tutorial where the guy used a violet shade, which aged the armour nicely but still not dark enough for me..



Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/27 21:11:04


Post by: Plodmarine


Now I've had a brief break (nope, still haven't finished painting the custodes) i wanted to crack on with a couple more tactical marines for the Blood Ravens army. I wanted to do more units with just bolters, as I have a habit of giving them too many good bits (special weapons/assault weapons etc). To cope with this I've modified their poses slightly, one having fired off the last of his ammo doing a quick breach check, and another walking with his weapon held low, patrolling or resting between threats.

On the patroller, I've had a bit of an experiment to see if I could scratch build some mk4 style leg armour, after all those Blood Ravens will nick anything. Most of this was with plastic and and some thinner plastic from muller yoghurt pots, shaped and glued over the greenstuff I use to build up the legs.


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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/04/28 15:27:19


Post by: Master Azalle


great work on the conversion brother! I love the poses too!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/21 21:31:54


Post by: Plodmarine


It's been a while and I've been awful, this month only some small progress. I've had a couple of goes at painting the eye lenses on the custodes, image below shows the most recent effort, may need improvement, and I'm open to suggestions (except red).

I've also given them a few layers of highlights, starting with a dry brush of retributor armour, mixed 1:1 with auric armour gold. Followed by just auric armour gold, and final edge highlights using the last, mixed 1:1 with vmc chainmail silver. Pics below.

I didn't like the shields completely gold, so I've done my "black" on the wing parts, which I think makes the detail in the centre and edges pop out more. It's not in with the GW colour scheme, but when did that stop me.

Now for the power weapons/gems and the face/cape on the shield captain.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/22 07:39:01


Post by: STG


looking good. Primaris Marines. Thoughts


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/22 17:23:53


Post by: Plodmarine


 STG wrote:
looking good. Primaris Marines. Thoughts


No complaints from me, though I don't see how I can bring them into my own true-scale project. I'd either have to use them as-is (and that's probably still shorter than mine) or do the same sort of conversion method to boost them to put them in scale with the rest, fine if the price is similar (which I doubt it will be), but I don't really see the point. Your opinion?


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/22 22:51:32


Post by: jhe90


Ooh your converted poses have given me ideas for my bolter marines.

Thanks. Great work.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/23 20:10:54


Post by: STG


Plodmarine wrote:
 STG wrote:
looking good. Primaris Marines. Thoughts


No complaints from me, though I don't see how I can bring them into my own true-scale project. I'd either have to use them as-is (and that's probably still shorter than mine) or do the same sort of conversion method to boost them to put them in scale with the rest, fine if the price is similar (which I doubt it will be), but I don't really see the point. Your opinion?


I had been considering doing truescaling but imo primaris marines kinda defeat the purpose of it. (dont let me discourage your project). I personally like the models though, but frankly the fluff is garbage, so hopefully they'll fix that.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/24 18:34:14


Post by: Plodmarine


 STG wrote:
Plodmarine wrote:
 STG wrote:
looking good. Primaris Marines. Thoughts


No complaints from me, though I don't see how I can bring them into my own true-scale project. I'd either have to use them as-is (and that's probably still shorter than mine) or do the same sort of conversion method to boost them to put them in scale with the rest, fine if the price is similar (which I doubt it will be), but I don't really see the point. Your opinion?


I had been considering doing truescaling but imo primaris marines kinda defeat the purpose of it. (dont let me discourage your project). I personally like the models though, but frankly the fluff is garbage, so hopefully they'll fix that.


I know what you mean though, it's almost like gw were aware of all the true-scaling that's been going on and wanted an idea to make it irrelevant, to shut that outside creativity down. Regardless, I'm going to carry on, as I'm enjoying it, and then when I get bored I'll move on. Maybe I'll even chop up a few primaris marines just for a laugh. I'm going to have to think of a plan for true-scale termies and scouts so I might as well be inclusive.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/28 09:56:33


Post by: Plodmarine


Face painting! I have always been terrible at painting the faces on minis, doesn't matter how small a brush I use it just doesn't work. In the past I've used inks/washes (now shades) and drybrushing different tones, but I was never very happy with the realism, depth or tones.

As a rule I'm not using bare heads on my marines (why would you go bare headed when a ceramite helmet could save your life?) but I wanted to do a decent piece for the custodes shield captain. I did a bit of digging around and found that using more grey in the tones and some cold colours such as purple would add depth and realism to the colours i'd previously used.

I painted two heads, that way I could use the bald one as an experiment. Not perfect, but better than previous attempts. C+c welcome.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/28 19:51:48


Post by: Plodmarine


A little more work on these guys, painted the gems, and have started the process for lightning style power weapons, but I might repaint those as not keen. On a more positive note, I wanted to put the custodes on bases that express paving within ruins, so using plasticard and a few spares I've knocked up some individual bases for each. Particularly happy with the circular tiling effect on the shield captain.


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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/28 21:14:13


Post by: STG


I actually really like those bases, very tasteful.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/05/28 21:45:57


Post by: Plodmarine


 STG wrote:
I actually really like those bases, very tasteful.


Thanks STG! Hope you still find them tasteful once painted.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/13 22:33:04


Post by: Plodmarine


It's been a while! I've made some movement on multiple projects, though none are finished as yet.

Basing is painted for the Custodes, I went with a marble look that I added a gloss varnish too for a proper shine. Just need some PVA (my old bottle dried up) and I'll be putting some static grass in the crevices between the marble slabs, for a ruins type environment. In terms of finishing, then it will be just the power weapons to complete.

On top of working my way through the true-scale tactical units, I've cracked out the Land Raider and given that a base coat, and painted the interior (before completing assembly). My goal for this was to be a bit grim and messy, as if it's been used for many campaigns by busy marines with no time for concern on cleanliness. So, I painted within with Karak stone and ushabti bone paints, then used aggrax earth shade and nuln oil to add depth and grime to the surfaces. I've used some of GWs tech paint typhus corrosion in the recesses low and high and in areas of the floorpan to look like build up of dirt. Dotted about some dirty rusted patches as well. Pics below, will complete in more detail before I finish building.

Sadly, I've lost my airbrush, which I've been trying to find since we moved house, so painting of the tank exterior will have to wait a month or so until I buy a new one. Regarding true-scale for the land raider, I've chosen not to. In a way I'm playing it safe, it's already a large piece which will stand up next to the upscaled marines and with the working parts for doors etc I'd prefer to do a sharp job of it than risk ruining such a costly mini. That said, the Rhino will likely be getting the chop to build up to a size more proportionate to my marines. Perhaps there I will will learn what needs to be done to true-scale bigger projects in the future.

I've also begun work on the contemptor dreadnought, having chopped and separated most of the joints to rebuild in a more dynamic pose. Any opinions on whether a truescale army needs an upsized dreadnought? Or will the normal size be sufficient?

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/14 07:21:54


Post by: STG


Land raider looks really awesome so far! love dirty tanks.
are the rust patches just tyhus corrosion?

If i were you I would truescle the dreadnought just because it would be cool to see, technically you dont need to as only the dreadnought sarcophagus would need to be bigger.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/14 07:35:43


Post by: Aetare


These are some awesome conversions!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/14 18:10:53


Post by: Plodmarine


STG wrote:Land raider looks really awesome so far! love dirty tanks.
are the rust patches just tyhus corrosion?

If i were you I would truescle the dreadnought just because it would be cool to see, technically you dont need to as only the dreadnought sarcophagus would need to be bigger.


Thanks again! Most is typhus, some is a dark brown mix of paint (some on top of agrellan earth the crackle paint) plus the shades make a big difference.

I'll have a look at the dread, but to be honest I think I could only realistically upscale the legs and arms, the sarcophagus would be very tough to maintain the right shape. That said, plenty of room in th abdomen and hips for a boost.

Aetare wrote:These are some awesome conversions!


Thanks, hopefully I'll get bigger and bolder as the army progresses.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/15 03:17:13


Post by: youwashock


Loving how those Custodes are coming together.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/15 05:13:34


Post by: evildrcheese


Top work on the Land Raider so far.

Also I love the bases for the Custodians, really splendid.

EDC


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/16 21:11:10


Post by: Plodmarine


Thanks to you both.

A little more progress on the raider, also tried a bit of OSL and for the first time I think I've made it work (my attempts at this usually suck and get repainted!). I've also been painting up another batch of tactical marines, and finally the power weapons on those custodes, but no pics until next time.


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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/17 00:09:51


Post by: lindsay40k


Looking good! I'm going to have to try the sword idea with a Helbrute & a DP axe!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/20 17:20:39


Post by: Plodmarine


 lindsay40k wrote:
Looking good! I'm going to have to try the sword idea with a Helbrute & a DP axe!


Thanks! You totally should, that is one mean looking axe!

I've finally sorted the basing on the custodes, just need to paint the noise marine helmet under the captains sword and maybe (really maybe as I'm not sure I like it) glue on his cape. I think the lightning effect on my power weapons may need a rework, but i am very self critical. Your opinions are most welcome...

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/20 18:44:39


Post by: STG


bases are looking slick! I'd be pretty happy with those blades, i'm sure you could do better but if i were you i would want to do something else as you have been doing the custodes for a long time now.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/06/20 20:55:36


Post by: Plodmarine


 STG wrote:
bases are looking slick! I'd be pretty happy with those blades, i'm sure you could do better but if i were you i would want to do something else as you have been doing the custodes for a long time now.


Thanks, you are right, I've been hitting them on and off between other projects for too long. I tend never to consider anything finished, I'm too much of a perfectionist, though I just move on once a better/newer project arises...I annoy myself with it haha!

Might fix that one blade and call it a day, after all, I've got a land raider to build/paint, a contemptor, a rhino to true-scale, a land speeder storm to convert and still at least 3 more tactical marines to finish! Quite the build queue.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/07/15 14:08:16


Post by: Plodmarine


Progress report! Land raider is on hold now until I buy an airbrush/compressor. I've finally got some work done on that contemptor dread though, and I'm pretty happy with how it's shaped up. Few more marines as well, only problem with this project is o have to do then in dribs and drabs as it's so much work per batch of marines. Next up, I'll be painting that dread, and then maybe I'll move on to the land speeder or an assault squad...we will see.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/07/16 16:17:25


Post by: Plodmarine


My contemptor is ready for paint!

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/07/23 21:39:22


Post by: Plodmarine


Paint is on, it's a WIP still, got a bit more to do and I need to think of something imaginative for the base.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/07/23 22:32:34


Post by: Big H


Cracking convertions mate ! Subbed !


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/07/28 08:35:31


Post by: STG


Dude that contemptor dread is stunning! Conversions are awesome and the paint job is amazing too. The blends are smooth asf


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/07/28 08:43:13


Post by: Bottle


The contemptor looks awesome! Great job man.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/08/03 22:09:06


Post by: Plodmarine


Thanks guys! Those blends were the bane of my life for a few days but it worked out alright in the end.

I'm mostly happy with the paintwork now, I will however do some OSL from the blade once I pick up some Lamian medium. I tried out sponging for the weathering alongside my normal method for cracks and highlights. I added some rust to the more major damage, as I wanted this guy to look really old. I am wary of doing too much though, especially when it takes so long to nail those damn blends. Needs basing and maybe a few touch ups, but here's the nearly finished article.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/08/04 01:04:20


Post by: STG


How do you blend out of curiosity


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/08/04 07:40:53


Post by: Plodmarine


 STG wrote:
How do you blend out of curiosity


Right now, my method is by brush, I'd prefer airbrush but until I can afford one it's off the table.

My method: once base coated black, I paint about 2/3 down with a very thin coat of the darkest red( 3:1 khorne red:Mephiston red) I build up maybe 2 more layers of that, progressively moving further away from the black side.

Once dry I use nuln oil shade on the dark side, but not beyond 1/2 way. I use a finger/sponge/tissue to soften the edge on the red side before it dries.

I then build up more thin layers on the red side, from 2:1 to 1:1. I usually shade again, a little further into be red this time, again softening edge. (Another way is to paint the black on, and while it has a wet edge, wet the brush and dilute the blend side, dragging it further up)

The shade usually leaves a dull finish at its thickest, so I paint over the black with abbadon black. Then highlight. I use wild rider red at the red edge, then a mix of 1:1 wild rider:mephiston on the dark edge.

If happy, and once detail on, I use humbrol matt coat to level off the surface and give an even reduction in reflectivity to the whole surface.

The challenge is not getting tide lines with the paint. It may take a few goes. Best tip is to keep the paint quite wet, and a wet brush handy to move/ dilute the edge where necessary.

Hope that makes sense. I do think this would be easier with an airbrush but if that's not an option I hope this works out for you.


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Post by: STG


Awesome thanks dude


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/08/24 10:23:34


Post by: Azazelx


Very cool Contemptor here, mate!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/08/25 03:53:11


Post by: Zillian


Nice work on the Contemptor! Love the sword.

Since you're putting so much work into converting your marines, have you considered casting the modified legs and torsos to speed things up? It's not hard to get good results. Half a dozen different legs and torsos and mix them up to create still individual marines. 6 of each gives you 36 different combinations, and you can still modify from there. I'd mold the Blood Raven shoulder pads you made too.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/08/27 17:42:06


Post by: JoeRugby


Lovely Contemptor dude


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/08/27 21:23:17


Post by: Plodmarine


Thanks guys!

Zillian, I haven't much experience with casting, I wouldn't rule it out but for now I'm on a bit of a budget so I will likely be continuing the slow and painstaking method until things pick up. Would be a nice way to amass a large force though, good idea.

On the bright side, I had a few bits for my birthday so more projects coming soon, and I may just wing it without an airbrush to paint those vehicles in my build queue too. More soon


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/08/28 02:25:52


Post by: lindsay40k


Oooh. Can we get some Contemptor shots focussed on the sword? That's a nice effect there.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/08/30 20:12:26


Post by: Plodmarine


 lindsay40k wrote:
Oooh. Can we get some Contemptor shots focussed on the sword? That's a nice effect there.


Haha flattery will get you everywhere! Thank you. As requested, shots below. I've acquired some Lahmian medium now so will have a practice and may do some osl coming off that sword onto the contemptor also...could be a game changer.


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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/04 20:43:50


Post by: Plodmarine


My latest project, the Stormraven I got for my birthday! I've been wondering how to convert these vehicles for a little while, since no official doors/chapter upgrade parts exist for the Blood Ravens. On the contemptor, you'll notice the chapter raven on the front, which I cut freehand. While I was lucky to get that looking ok, I wanted more consistent pieces, and since I don't have a laser cutter knocking around, I've made a plan.

I copied the logo into paint, made a few different sizes and then printed it. I then cut a few out, and used pva glue to fix the logos to plasticard.
Now the fun part, using a scalpel I cut out the raven as evenly as possible, being extra careful not to cut the head off (that bit's pretty weak).

I then peeled off the paper, tidied them up and glued them to the Stormraven. More coming for the rest of my vehicle builds soon. I used a blob of green stuff to make the blood drop and add a bit more dimension. Pics below.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/09 22:47:21


Post by: Plodmarine


Bit more on the flyer, got some red on there to start my blending process, and painted up that cockpit and tech marine. For some reason I wasn't a big fan of the turret on top, so I've converted it to be more like a tank turret, Predator tank style.

Also, looking from above I couldn't see anything that said Blood Ravens, so I've cut out another large raven and halved it, one for each wing. Foolishly I glued it down before remembering to cut along the panel recesses, so I had to wing it to find those and cut to shape.

My other intended conversion for this is to do something about those hurricane bolters, which if they were to fire would foul on the frontmost jets. I was considering a turret mounted under the wings, or perhaps to extend the sponsons out. It could be a lot of work, but now I've seen it I probably can't let it go.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/11 21:08:04


Post by: Plodmarine


Here's some progress on the paint job, been working hard on the wet blends with very thin layers of both red and black. I've found that a good helping of GWs Lahmian Medium makes the paint thinner and easier to blend. It's by no means perfect, and I had originally intended to use an airbrush for the vehicles, but I think I'm making it work.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/13 11:22:14


Post by: STG


Very brave to attempt blending on a model that size without an airbrush, looks very slick though!


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/15 21:29:42


Post by: Plodmarine


 STG wrote:
Very brave to attempt blending on a model that size without an airbrush, looks very slick though!


Thanks STG! I'm not sure if it's brave or stupid, but as I've lost my old airbrush and can't afford one right now, I suppose I'd better muster some skill. More to come soon, hope it turns out well.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/18 15:11:56


Post by: Big H


Looks great for all brush work !

If you want nit picking criticism it might look super sexy if you did the individual panels from light to dark instead of the whole wing etc. but to be honest it looks great as is !


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/21 07:45:12


Post by: Plodmarine


 Big H wrote:
Looks great for all brush work !

If you want nit picking criticism it might look super sexy if you did the individual panels from light to dark instead of the whole wing etc. but to be honest it looks great as is !


Thanks! I do actually agree and I had debated going that way with the individual panels, but I talked myself out of it in favour of the larger scale shading. To be honest, it might have been easier to get the blend on, as smaller surfaces show the lines less. Hoping that once the detail and matte varnish go on it will even out a little more. No further this week as I've been practically living at work. More in the next week or so I'm sure though.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/21 18:16:29


Post by: Meph


Great bunch of models, dark and moody. But that Contemptor, woa dude... it's awesome.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/22 12:09:57


Post by: Plodmarine


 Meph wrote:
Great bunch of models, dark and moody. But that Contemptor, woa dude... it's awesome.


Thanks Meph! I really enjoyed the contemptor, it practically evolved and developed itself as I was building it. Would definitely do another one, though it probably wouldn't fit in fluff-wise given how rare they should be in 40k. Stay tuned, more to come when I get the work/life balance back.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/09/27 23:37:49


Post by: Plodmarine


I've taken a little break from the big ol' flying brick and went back to some Reivers and an intercessor that I started back in August. I had a bit of an experiment and internal debate about the size of these guys, after building up the reivers initially I actually decided that I would accept primaris for the gift it really is...truescale (or near as dammit) straight outta the box. So my first Reivers are a couple MM taller but nobody will notice :/

Still a WIP, reds done and highlighted, black is blended and ready for highlights.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/09 16:46:18


Post by: lindsay40k


> upscaling Primaris
> nobody will notice
You're making me glad I put my Chaos Terminators on heroic bases
Spoiler:

They are looking good, Reivers are my favourite
Primaris to date.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/13 17:08:08


Post by: Plodmarine


 lindsay40k wrote:
> upscaling Primaris
> nobody will notice
You're making me glad I put my Chaos Terminators on heroic bases
Spoiler:

They are looking good, Reivers are my favourite
Primaris to date.


Thanks, by the way, I like those heroic bases...I got similar resin bases on eBay for a steal. I decided in future not to upscale the primaris, which in a way is a relief, the new minis have so many curves and intricate details that it becomes harder to do it neatly. Reivers are nearly finished, so back to the Stormraven shortly. Pics soon.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/15 07:25:56


Post by: Plodmarine


3x Reivers done. Really enjoyed these and that was just the push fit (not that I built them that way). I'll be adding a full squad to my wish list. Quite pleased with my freehand assault designation on the pads, even if they aren't quite square. Not sure about the company marking on the Sgt though, on second thoughts I'm not certain a primaris sgt would have been a 1st company vet. (I can repaint that)
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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/15 09:29:56


Post by: STG


Dude I really love your style of painting. The blending makes them look awesome. The chest peices look phenomenal.

Do you do it as if the light source is coming from directly above them?


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/15 17:23:53


Post by: OneManNoodles


I am highly envious of that red armour, it's gorgeous.

I thought those were decals ...


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/15 17:58:07


Post by: Plodmarine


STG wrote:Dude I really love your style of painting. The blending makes them look awesome. The chest peices look phenomenal.

Do you do it as if the light source is coming from directly above them?


Thanks STG! To an extent yes, I assume lighting from above such as sunlight I guess, but in a stylised way. Another thing I try to do is where one panel/piece ends in a dark colour, the colour next to it will begin on the light end of the spectrum. So it may be far from accurate shading, but it contrasts and looks moody.

OneManNoodles wrote:I am highly envious of that red armour, it's gorgeous.

I thought those were decals ...


Thanks OneManNoodles, your envy is a compliment. And again thanks, I think the pictures make them more uniform but I'm not gonna complain.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/15 19:23:06


Post by: kavika0311


Beautiful looking models. Your truescaling methods are great. I still can't seem to ever smooth greenstuff out enough for it to look as good as yours. I just skip that part. Lol.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/15 19:32:02


Post by: Plodmarine


 kavika0311 wrote:
Beautiful looking models. Your truescaling methods are great. I still can't seem to ever smooth greenstuff out enough for it to look as good as yours. I just skip that part. Lol.


Thank you very much. What you may need is just a little Vaseline. Once you've got it on and shaped up, a clayshaper or similar tool with a little blob of the stuff will smooth it right out. If you use too much though it can make a barrier for the paint to adhere.

Can be solved with a little scrub with warm water and washing up liquid. See if that helps.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/15 23:21:45


Post by: kavika0311


Plodmarine wrote:
Thank you very much. What you may need is just a little Vaseline. Once you've got it on and shaped up, a clayshaper or similar tool with a little blob of the stuff will smooth it right out. If you use too much though it can make a barrier for the paint to adhere.

Can be solved with a little scrub with warm water and washing up liquid. See if that helps.


Thanks for the tip. I've just been using water and it hasn't been working out for me. Keep up the good work.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/16 17:14:48


Post by: Master Azalle


how do you go about your blending? I've never been able to master that. My models tend to by the more "traditional" base coat, wash, re-apply base, and then highlight


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/10/16 18:42:21


Post by: Plodmarine


 Master Azalle wrote:
how do you go about your blending? I've never been able to master that. My models tend to by the more "traditional" base coat, wash, re-apply base, and then highlight


That's pretty much how I was going until the last few models. If I remember correctly I'm doing the following.

>Black undercoat (spray or brush- whichever I have to hand)
>Khorne Red (the darker) 3:1 Mephiston Red (the brighter). Thinned of course.
>Carroburg Crimson Shade all over the red. If it's still to bright I follow up with Nuln oil once dry. It should look dark.

>Previous paint mix again, over most but not the darkest/shadiest areas. (Here we start building a gradient.)
>Khorne Red 1:1 Mephiston Red. (Again starting in the light and stopping short of the previous coat)
>1:3 on the same reds, now on the brighter side. (Moving as if almost highlights)

>fine edge highlights with Wild Rider Red.

What I have found is that by thinning paints well, or even using Lahmian medium in a small quantity improves the flow and once dry gives a smoother blend from light to dark.

On the Stormraven, I did it differently, I may add to the bright areas with a brighter mix, but after the base coat of redI mixed Lahmian medium and black about 1:1 and added layer after layer, building up from the centre of the red back towards the black. I found using a wet brush to remove/water the edge prevents a tide line as the pigment settles, but using the medium (basically a clear paint) actually improves how the pigment settles greatly.

Hope it makes sense but if not I'll try and do it in pictures next time I start.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/11/01 19:41:06


Post by: Plodmarine


Slow progress from me on painting the vehicles, having a bit of indecision on the paint job so in the meantime, I’ve been modelling. I’ve got a box of Scouts with sniper rifles, and also wanted to build my own unique apothecary. I’ll cover him in another post, because the scouts have kept me busy.

I was inspired by some artscale scouts made by Master of the Forge, and I really don’t like the GW scout heads. I wanted to upscale the scouts to fit with the rest of my troops, as although not fully fledged marines, theoretically these neophytes should be almost finished in their development and augmentation, which would mean a similar stature, less the bulk of armour.

I thought about using Tempestus Scions heads, but this seems a fairly common conversion these days, so I’ve taken a different direction. It may not be everybody’s cup of tea, but I’ve gone for some helmeted heads from Anvil Industries.

I have followed my usual method, adding .5mm to the feet, 1mm to legs above and below the knee, and another .5mm to the base of the torso. With the new heads these guys should be slightly shorter than my marines but not too short.

I have since begun filling out the trousers with green stuff, I’ll take more pics soon.

Other work includes tweaking the bipod to be collapsed as not in use, and adjusting the placement of the neck recess to align the helmet as if these guys might actually have a relatively normal posture. I did this by drilling a small hole at the back of the neck recess and then rotating a scalpel around to widen the area around it, effectively moving it back.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/11/01 20:36:24


Post by: Plodmarine


Now, the apothecary. I’m trying something new by using terminator legs to convert to true scale. So far I’m pleased, but I can see that this is not sustainable for large numbers due to the cost of those Termie legs. Anyway, nice and quick to convert, basically cuts out an entire step in the process so well on the way already. Again, some great advice by Master of the Forge on using termie legs to make true/art scale marines.

I’ve cut away all the irrelevant details on the greaves and the hip plates, then smoothed and filled them out with green stuff. I’ve gone for a heresy era look with the ribbed feet. I cut away the top front parts of both feet, replaced with green stuff and then added the texture.

For the helmet, I wanted something remeniscent of a plague doctor, with more detail than a standard beaky. I’ve used a piece from Anvil industries called “Raven helmet”, with the addition of an eye augmentation to bring it closer to most apothecary helmets. I’ve got the backpack and Narthecium, though I’m not happy with the position of the arm so I anticipate rebuilding that. Pics so far below...

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/11/02 12:07:03


Post by: STG


The scouts look so freaking awesome dude. Slightly annoyed bc now I might have to cut up my space marine kill team to make them true scale. Even though I'm halfway through painting them lol


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/11/04 01:07:26


Post by: Plodmarine


So the only good bit about being stuck in with manflu...more time to paint! With my extra time I’ve put the arms together for the apothecary.

More importantly...I’ve finally got some paint on the outside of the land raider!!! I’ve decided to follow my usual blending pattern but cutting through on the front will be some stripe markings to break up the front end. I’ve started by separating it out in a base of dark grey which will shade to black, and I will contrast that with the bone colour often used by the blood ravens.

I’ve got a bunch of plastic and green stuff bits that I want to get on there to make it more ornate, but for the most part I want to get the blending nailed first. Still more work to go on that. For now, I’ve got the chapter logo on one door and a book (we know how the blood ravens covet knowledge) mounted on the other door. I’ll be adding more detail to this with green stuff later.

I’ve taken off the Aquila on the front door, which I’ll be replacing with my own plasticard raven.

Sponsons are also made up but I’m keeping them separate for now.

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Post by: Plodmarine


Progress update, back to work and doing piecemeal bits of modelling and painting in between. So, what have I done? All of the scouts have proper trousers now, concealing the plasticard spacers, some green stuff work on the weapons etc to make a fabric wrapped effect, and a camo cloak half folded over instead of the bundled one in the sprue.

I’ve sculpted the belt and a purity seal for the apothecary, and a wing effect shoulder pad, for which I’ve also press moulded the apothecary insignia as my small-scale sculpting skills are not that precise. This I will cut out and add to the shoulder pad soon.

I’ve painted some stripe markings on the land raider to add some character to the front end, and subsequently chipped the paint back to mimic damage and wear. I’ve also added some decorative bits here and there which will get a splash of paint soon. I converted my own pintle mounted multi melta, and using another turret for stormbolter aim to be able to swap between for games.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/11/20 19:17:44


Post by: Plodmarine


Apothecary update, almost ready for paint!!! My press moulded insignia came out well and I’ve added that on, seemed a good finishing touch.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/11/28 23:35:38


Post by: Master Azalle


looks great brother!

The press mold did turn out nicely


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/12/04 12:41:04


Post by: STG


How do you get the vaseline off the models once you have finished sculpting them? I would assume that the vaseline is very difficult to paint over.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/12/09 09:27:49


Post by: Plodmarine


Yes it can be a pain, especially with brush paints. A quick rub/scrub with some washing up liquid and soft tooth brushand a rinse helps. However, I have found in general that a spray undercoat/primer actually sticks to it regardless. Either works, ideally I’d rather not use Vaseline but water just doesn’t go as smooth.

I did see on a blog by master of the forge that he was using a blend of green stuff and milliput that can smooth with just water.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/12/09 12:48:08


Post by: STG


I've seen they have something similar to vaseline especially for sculpting, not sure what its called though.
I want to say sculptors lube but that's definetly not right lol


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2017/12/09 15:28:22


Post by: Plodmarine


I once read about someone using “personal” lubricant to do it, bit weird but I guess being water based it would dry naturally and any residue would not be oily. Worth a look perhaps as I seem to be doing more and more with green stuff.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2018/06/16 21:42:51


Post by: Plodmarine


Sorry it’s been a while, hope it’s not thread necromancy if I pick up my neglected blog. Life has been hectic, getting in the way of my hard earned hobby time. Anyway, moving on...I’ve finally finished painting the Apothecary I built, quite pleased with the result, pics below. C and c welcome.

I’ve also put a bit of time into painting the scout sniper squad, though I’ve not taken nearly enough pictures.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2018/06/17 00:09:13


Post by: youwashock


Awesome paint and conversion work. I am all about those vials.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2018/06/17 01:46:38


Post by: lipsdapips


You're getting some real unique miniatures out of your hobbying process! I think this stuff is really cool. I've never seen an apothecary paint scheme done like that before, but I really dig it! Cool stuff. Consider me subscribed, i'm eager to see what's in the pipeline


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2018/06/17 14:13:22


Post by: Plodmarine


youwashock wrote:Awesome paint and conversion work. I am all about those vials.


Thanks, was my first go at them and really pleased with how it’s turned out.

lipsdapips wrote:You're getting some real unique miniatures out of your hobbying process! I think this stuff is really cool. I've never seen an apothecary paint scheme done like that before, but I really dig it! Cool stuff. Consider me subscribed, i'm eager to see what's in the pipeline


Thanks! I can’t take full credit for the paint scheme, there have been others similar, but I wanted to take my own direction with the apothecary, as with the rest. The goal is a unique army so I’m glad it looks that way. Finishing up all my half painted bits and then I’ll be on some new stuff


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2018/06/21 15:28:59


Post by: Plodmarine


Some work in progress on the scouts. I wanted to achieve something a little unique, and steer away from both the GW scout heads and bright colours. I don’t care how elite a space marine neophyte is, a sniper should be HARD to see, and why risk your head, you only get one. With that in mind, I still wanted these guys to fit with the rest of my army. Heads are from Anvil Industries.

I went for an almost multicam colour scheme, with just the armour showing any relateable colour to the blood ravens. The cloaks are a base of Karak Stone with square(ish) flecks of Zandri Dust, Ogryn Camo and a blend of Mournfang Brown and Zandri dust. Highlighted with a slight dry brush of ushabti bone and then a wash of Aggrax earth shade.

With the boots and gauntlets I wanted them to look weathered, with bits of the plating beneath showing through. Hopefully I’ll finish these soon.

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Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2018/06/21 18:14:30


Post by: Master Azalle


What heads are you using? They look fantastic.


Plod’s Truescale Blood Ravens Blog - Truescale scouts painting - 21st June @ 2018/06/21 22:23:43


Post by: Plodmarine


 Master Azalle wrote:
What heads are you using? They look fantastic.


Thanks, they’re Anvil industries “ops core 2 heads” but the regiments infantry section does loads of heads that would look better than the oversized GW scout heads. I nearly went for Tempestus Scions heads but these have really impressed me. They do some good weapon accessories as well.

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