First off they're celebrating their 25th anniversary by putting out an exclusive mini every month. For January it's a figure called 'The Spirit of 2016' who marks all the great things we remember from last year.
I want to model one with Leonard Nimoy, Prince, David Bowie and Carrie Fisher on the base.
The next model in my all Dancing Girl army has also arrived.
Their 4 seasons range continues this time with the Spirit Autumn, cleverly released in January so you have a whole 9 months to get it painted.
And more cuteness
Try not to picture these rookie adventurers heading into their first dungeon only to be horribly killed by the monsters within or even worse taken alive to be mutilated and tortured for years. Don't even think about that and just focus on their cute innocent faces.
No snark this time
those are just awesome civilians and I'll be getting them when I finally get to my space port project.
I love a model that tells a story
So like this one time Murkillor, y'know the Wraith King of the Dark Moors, showed up for a battle and Joey, Wraith Peasant of the Dusky Marsh was all like, hey Murkillor, Wraith King of the Dark Moors, you forgot your face! Where's your face Murkillor, Wraith King of the Dark Moors? And all the Wraiths laughed and Murkillor, Wraith King of the Dark Moors had to go home and find his face which was between the couch cushions so he missed the whole battle.
It is a nice model, but $13.50. Looks like he's 30, 40mm but still. For that kind of money I'd want a face.
Man-Bat for Reapers new Batman line.
Batwoman, for Reapers new Batman line.
Commissioner Gordon for Reapers new Batman line.
And Alfred for Reapers new Batman line. It's shaping up quite nicely.
So 2017 is off to a roaring start, looking forward to getting Bones 3, maybe the launch of Bones 4, and as always MORE METAL
These are some of the better reaper additions in a while, for my tastes.
Most of my mini purchases have been from Hasslefree, or Tre Manor- and then, amazingly, GW again (just when I had totally given up on them they go and make custodes...)
As of now we have received both of the containers mentioned in the previous update at our warehouse.
We have at present: 2 additional containers currently in customs' hands (these arrived in the USA yesterday and now must be processed), and 2 more containers on the water. We are awaiting the packing lists and other paperwork (for customs purposes) for the containers on the water, so that we can confirm the contents and determine whether these are the final shipments or if 1 additional container remains.
We will keep you updated, our next scheduled Update will be February 3rd.
Interesting stuff from the comments section from Reaper-
Reaper Miniatures 5-time creator 2 days ago
Also, Excelsior, let me say this, if it helps clarify things for you.
They told us it would take 6 additional shipments/containers.
We received confirmation that Container #6 was on the water.
Containers 1-6 are all now accounted for, either in hand, on the water, or waiting in customs.
What I do not have is the packing list for container #6. If I had that, I could cross reference against our original PO.
I could determine whether all rewards are now no longer in China, or if there was an error in calculation and that there are yet more containers coming. (IE whether there are still rewards not yet shipped)
It is not beyond the realm of possibility that there are actually 7 Containers due, and I refuse to be caught once again counting chickens before they hatch, like we did in September.
So It is entirely likely that all rewards are on the water, (or in customs or in our warehouse). But there does remain some slim chance that instead of 6 containers since December, it ended up taking more room than expected and there is a 7th we do not yet know about. We do not want to get caught saying it's all on the water and then discover there are more.
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Reaper Miniatures 5-time creator 2 days ago
@Matthew Jones - yes, but we will compress the time between waves to the minimum necessary to reset for the next group, and replace supplies that were used. We were able to complete Bones 2 fulfillment 17 days after starting, and expect to be able to exceed that target here.
So on the one hand, yes, it remains delayed, but we are getting very good communication on where it is. And, for those of you who had later pledges, you can expect your fulfillment proportionately much sooner than first wave backers. Putting the whole thing out in less than a month is way better than staggered shipping like they promised in the campaign.
I think their original schedule was to do the prepainted miniatures version before BonesIV. I wonder if that will change.
Commenting to get my sub.
Awww. It would have been cuter if the girl had been a cleric instead of a thief/rogue. The original D&D playtesters, for the first playtest, were Gygax's daughter Elise and his son Ernie. She was a cleric, he was a fighter. They killed some giant centipedes ( or spiders? something poisonous) and made off with a chest of copper pieces.
The fishmonger and the Man-Bat (or is it Bat Manuel? ) win this one. A fishmonger. How often does one of those show up in a miniature line? the Death mini, er spirit of 2016, ought to be playing a guitar, and have a few cats on its base.
Try not to picture these rookie adventurers heading into their first dungeon only to be horribly killed by the monsters within or even worse taken alive to be mutilated and tortured for years. Don't even think about that and just focus on their cute innocent faces.
Too late -_-. I was going to use these for my nephews and nieces RPG session as their characters...what the heck, I am a mean uncle
Most of those releases are really cool. The Vampire looks pretty derpy though. As much as I like the Reaper model for January, I have so many of those types of models..
...but.. I will probably still do it anyway.. I'm a sucker for a good reaper
Next month's looks like a cool pyromancer. The green energy stuff looks cool when you can photoshop the image but in real life I've never seen one that actually worked that well.
Pretty sure that's just regular source lighting on a dark-ish model. Didn't even cut the glare off the base, so even if I suspected them of photoshop, that would suggest otherwise..
spiralingcadaver wrote: Pretty sure that's just regular source lighting on a dark-ish model. Didn't even cut the glare off the base, so even if I suspected them of photoshop, that would suggest otherwise..
I use Photoshop all the time.. all they did was adjust the levels and color balance. It's a subtle change. Anyway, my point wasn't that as much that I've never seen OSL for green look good in person.... and I used to hang out with a multiple Golden Demon winner (James Ramsey). Like yellow, it's just a color that tends to not look great in real life.
EDIT: Oh.. and I've seen the other views of the same photo .. I'll get one in a sec From Reaper's page.. looks like the cutout from applying the layer mask for the levels adjustment
Oh, yeah, certain colors obviously pop more on a lit screen than on a painted model, thought you were saying the OSL itself had been faked or something.
Saw this thread yesterday. Stopped by FLGS when I was out today, purchased January model and put down standing order for the rest of the year. Not crazy about Reaper as a whole, but that February model is sick!
Thank you KK for this thread and continuing the humourously sarcastic tradition. I also just placed a $200 order with Reaper thanks to you, with a few of the above figures in it. So thanks for that as well.
Aha! Now I recall it. That wizard Domur. It reminds me of the Wizard Gremorly. (From the Wormy Comic strip drawn by Dave Trampier. Yeah, it's an ancient reference.)
I bought two vamps last week for my Vampire Counts army. Very happy with them.
They will be a pretty boy male vamp for my Lahmians, and a rank and file warrior girl vampire for same. The leaders of this cult will be two recliners left over from my Mortis engine mixed in with bits from Neferata, who I will mount on vampiric pegasi to rule-all from above where they wont get their pretty dresses dirty with grave filth.
None of this is past concept stage yet, but I want a plug in leadership of Lahmians for my army. Meanwhile I have two regular GW vampires, the half bat and the female vampire which came with an eBay bulk lot. They are unassembled so I can make what I will of them. GW vamps tend to be a bit over the top frankly, but I dont want to go all Twilight with my Vampire Counts army so the change is welcome.
Adding to this a Mannfred on steed, these three round out my Von Carstein section. I get my special character bits from the Mortarch set which comes as a casual bonus with the Skeleton Horde getting started box. I hate the Mortarch model and hate End Times in general so I factored them in as bits.
Later I will search out some Necrarch models, to add to my plastic Strigoi for a truly disgusting amount of Vampires for what is only a 3K army.
Reaper has taken a bold pro-PETA stand and I, for one, respect them for it.
With all the kerfluffle going on regarding fur on miniatures, we here at Reaper Miniatures would like to issue a brief statement regarding this deeply troubling issue.
We take this matter very seriously. We love our animal friends very much. This is why we have never, ever sculpted real fur onto any of our models. All fur depicted on any Reaper miniature is 100% synthetic "faux" fur. Any other type of fur depictions would just be irresponsible and unethical.
In the same vein, none of the leather textures on our models should be construed as leather, rather they should be interpreted as Naugahyde, or simply pleather. Nor should any flesh be considered flesh, but Soylent Green.
Again, we appreciate your time and thank you for your support.
That being said I will continue to cover all my Space Wolves with the pelts of heavily mutated humans.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Reaper has taken a bold pro-PETA stand and I, for one, respect them for it.
With all the kerfluffle going on regarding fur on miniatures, we here at Reaper Miniatures would like to issue a brief statement regarding this deeply troubling issue.
We take this matter very seriously. We love our animal friends very much. This is why we have never, ever sculpted real fur onto any of our models. All fur depicted on any Reaper miniature is 100% synthetic "faux" fur. Any other type of fur depictions would just be irresponsible and unethical.
In the same vein, none of the leather textures on our models should be construed as leather, rather they should be interpreted as Naugahyde, or simply pleather. Nor should any flesh be considered flesh, but Soylent Green.
Again, we appreciate your time and thank you for your support.
That being said I will continue to cover all my Space Wolves with the pelts of heavily mutated humans.
No. I saw one for faux fur once. I'll poke around for the link.
Perhaps Reaper Minis should now come with the disclaimer
No animals were harmed during the sculpting and production of the miniature.
I think I know their angle here. Reaper wants a License from PETA to produce miniatures of those *celebrities* who go naked rather than wear fur. Look for a line of D-list starlets sculpted in the buff. I think that they'll call it the Skin line. ( as opposed to the Bones line.)
I think I know their angle here. Reaper wants a License from PETA to produce miniatures of those *celebrities* who go naked rather than wear fur. Look for a line of D-list starlets sculpted in the buff. I think that they'll call it the Skin line. ( as opposed to the Bones line.)
Presumably they'll make them in metal first. Then when they do them in plastic they'll be known as the Skin 'n Bones line.
Quick Update: (TL: DR; ) For those of you not interested in long explanations, here's the short version:
We have 2 containers left to receive. Once those are in, we will send out an update announcing fulfillment shipping timeframes. We estimate, based on past experience, that fulfillment will begin in mid-to-late April, and will take 2-3 weeks to complete. We will continue posting updates throughout this process.
If you're interested in the details, read on.
Okay, people will say that this was waiting to happen, so sorry, but first time backer here of Reaper, not happy at all with these delays.
From the comments: "Ma'al Drakar alone took more containers than the Vampire Sets from Bones 1, which we ordered 4 times more of."
I'm still behind my painting queue, so I'm keeping busy. I think CMON's you only other alternative if you want bulk plastic miniatures. (EDIT: And they've just announced a delay for their Massive Darkness KS.)
EDIT: "@Khell, Excelsior, Pinky, etc: We get about 3 emails a week from people telling us that they don't like to argue in the comments, but they wanted to stay they weren't mad. We get about as many people complaining. We get about one every 2-3 months whose tone is ... beyond angry. And yes, During the Bones 1 KS I (Bryan) received what I believed to be a credible death threat (when we were cresting on 6 months late) from a backer, threatening to "burn down my house while my kids were asleep". We filed a police report and my family stayed in a hotel for a little while. We currently believe it to be resolved. What disturbed me most was not the threat, but that it had become personal - they weren't "coming after" my business, but my family.
Compared to that, you guys are a dream. We may never be able to make you support us again, but at least you aren't threatening my life, personally."
I think it's really an extension of the expectation/entitlement that human society is rapidly developing. We are (myself included) the generations of "now", and sadly the generations of "blame X!" for anything which upsets our delicate lives.
Being upset over some late toy soldiers shouldn't register on anyone's radar...I'd argue the fact that it can or does indicates how damn good our/your lives are to start with. If you have the luxury to be pissed that you blew $200-300-400 on toy soldiers and they're a few months late - life is frikkin' good.
I'm sitting on a couple of high dollar Kickstarters that are years...YEARS late and probably won't ever actually occur. I gambled and lost. Says right there on the Kickstarter page that it's all a big risk. It sucks and I won't be buying anything from those companies in the future...but that's about it. What good does it do me to get in a tizzy over it? I can warn people off about the companies (Gamezone and Palladium - to no one's surprise) but threats and pouting like a child? Pointless.
If you're not comfortable with the risk - don't do the Kickstarter. End of story.
If waiting is a poison, then I've build up an immunity over the many childhood purchases I've made through catalogs, with their "six to eight weeks to arrive". Thanks to Kickstarter, the next generation will also learn this skill.
Elbows wrote: I think it's really an extension of the expectation/entitlement that human society is rapidly developing. We are (myself included) the generations of "now", and sadly the generations of "blame X!" for anything which upsets our delicate lives.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: If waiting is a poison, then I've build up an immunity over the many childhood purchases I've made through catalogs, with their "six to eight weeks to arrive". Thanks to Kickstarter, the next generation will also learn this skill.
Exactly what I was about to say.
It's late, meh, it's a good value KS with lots of backers and order variety. It's bound to be late. I have more serious things in life to stress about than plastic toys. It will get here when it gets here.
I've at least *started* painting every one of my Bones 2 minis, and probably finished most of them... but you know, whenever 3 arrives, I'm still not going to get round to painting most of 3 till I've already backed 4. No biggie. Part of the reason the deal is so cheap is that it's a KS (therefore late). And part is that it's shipping from China (therefore not only even more late, but late in a manner that is essentially unpredictable and uncontrollable even for Reaper).
It would be lovely if Reaper had learned about giving more realistic shipping dates by now, but lots of things would be lovely -- I'd rather try to be realistic too, than worry.
Elbows wrote: I think it's really an extension of the expectation/entitlement that human society is rapidly developing. We are (myself included) the generations of "now", and sadly the generations of "blame X!" for anything which upsets our delicate lives.
That and a global shipping catastrophe.
True enough...did that huge shipping company ever get rescued? (The one which is like the 8th largest in the world and recently stopped their whole fleet?)
Pretty much. Kickstarter waits are a thing, and backers should know that going in and not get bent out of shape. This ain't Amazon. I backed Sedition Wars as my first, and it was like a six-month plus delay for even the first wave of stuff, with a rulebook that arrived already needing a 2.0 version. Even a relatively simple boardgame (Shadowstar Corsairs)I backed was run by an awesome guy with great communication, and overseas holidays slowed things down by like 2-4 months.
Well you are making the assumption that she is human, when she is not labeled at such. Accordingly I must say that you are both wrong, as breasts of her race DO work that way (obviously) and that you are clearly racist. Or sexist. Or something, whatever the PC rage is these days.
Actually, the painter's use of lighting and shade on her breasts and hood help show them off. Also, nice complementary pairing of silver-blue and orange.
Anyway, in Bones III, Reaper padded several months to the project and, naturally, some backers were upset about *that*. KS requires creators put the *month* that they estimate a project will be due, and even retailers don't do that, only giving quarterly estimates (see the FFG calendar). This is entirely impossible, because project creators don't even know how many orders they will be making (they don't know how many people will back), nor what they will be creating beyond the base pledge (they don't know how many SG's will be unlocked).
kestral wrote: Bones are about a quarter the price of traditional materials when you get them through kickstarter - sometimes less. People can suck it up.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, those townsfolk will have a home with me.
Indeed. I've been looking for a group of models with the right combination of "nice lookin'" and "cheap as chips" for years so I can have a Frenzied Mob for Mordheim, hopefully they release a lot of them.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:Calling for correct anatomy is not Political Correctness!
You might've missed the tiny 'sarcasm' bundled away at the bottom of the post. I almost did. I think it needed to be made clearer, 'cos it's otherwise a pretty convincing example of this kind of rant!
Red Harvest wrote:There is a tumblr site (of course it would be on tumblr)
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I quite like this one:
The large hand and the boobs not being correct could mean this is actually a male to female transgender thief, calls for a terrible face painting from me to complete the authentity of the storyline.
Theophony wrote: The large hand and the boobs not being correct could mean this is actually a male to female transgender thief, calls for a terrible face painting from me to complete the authentity of the storyline.
A thief who really pissed off a powerful wizard, who proceeded to curse him with a trangender spell. Sound's like a great back story for a PC!
Let's not get too off topic here. I think it's an OK looking mini. Didn't even notice the hand until someone pointed it out. I like the face and hood. Nice paint job IMHO.
Oh, yeah, I think the model's pretty nice, and don't find fault in much re: proportions. There's definitely some leeway about exaggeration at that scale, with my only real complaint being the exaggerated knuckles that don't fit, but that would be a really easy filing job to reduce.
And we're back with this week's exciting episode of 'Do Breasts Work that Way?'!
Let's meet this week's contestants!
First hailing from the great white north we have Trista, the White Wolf!
And... wait. If that's her sword in her hand then what's that in her scabbard? Does she carry two swords just in case? is one of them like a Long Sword +1/+3 vs giants while the other is a Long Sword +2 so she alternates depending on who she's fighting?
Anyway cool shield, the breast plate looks a bit... roomy shall we say, but over all quite cool
And here we have Denova, Female Mage. Cute dress, let's assume she's headed to Court or a ball and not for a dungeon, she probably has some supportive undergarments or magical assistance but overall
So we're two for two, can we go three for three?
So Reaper's wraiths were some of the first models I got from them
I loved the look of an invisible spirit with just his clothes and weapons visible)
(though now as I look at it I want to say ARMS DON'T WORK THAT WAY! anyhow...)
So now they've put out a female wraith...
An while her arms are invisible her face and bare midriff are not. I'll leave it someone else to find a meaning there.
Her mammary glands are a bit perky but I imagine being undead is chilly so she sneaks by on a technicality.
In other news...
I love a model that tells a story. Here's this one.
Spoiler:
Morgoth, The Bloodthirsty - You want a piece of me huh? You want this, you think you can take on Morgoth The Bloodthirsty? I didn't claw and tear my way off of a Manowar album cover to go down to a punk like you, me and my howling demon sword Not'a'Frazetta'Rip'Off don't take nothing from nobod-OW! OW! OW! OW! I stabbed myself in the foot! I stabbed myself in my damned foot! Time out, time out OK? Damn that hurts! I hope I didn't drain my own soul, that would suck...
Or these dudes, no snark, they're just really good and would look fantastic standing around a bar anywhere from the Inn of the Last Home to the Prancing Pony to the space port at Mos Eisley.
Though at $20... I might wait to see if they come in Bones.
Another 'I never knew I needed them' model. Whether sitting on a withered oak in the Blighted Marsh or on a downed telephone pole After The Disaster or the ruins of an Imperial Bastion... I need them!
Finally another pair of models with infinite uses.
A squad of Nazi Zombies resurrected by science to spice up your Weird War II game.
A squad of Nazi Zombies resurrected by sorcery to battle your modern superheroes.
A squad of Nazi Zombies resurrected by alchemy to battle your modern troopers fighting in Iraq
A squad of time-traveling Nazi Zombies to battle your Roman Legion.
A squad of Kreig Death Korps Zombies to fight for Chaos.
Because the only thing better than punching Nazis is punching Nazi Zombies!
So join us next time when we will ask the question 'Do Breasts Work That Way!'
Or these dudes, no snark, they're just really good and would look fantastic standing around a bar anywhere from the Inn of the Last Home to the Prancing Pony to the space port at Mos Eisley.
I recognized both those bars immediately, which is one more than the real bars than I could name within 5 minutes. That felt weird.
Genius commentary as ever, KK. I liked Morgoth's tale, in particular.
Trista is a standout for me. "Paladin / Viking Shieldmaiden" may be two of the most generic fantasy concepts ever, but this is a very nicely done crossover between the two. Having a short sword / long dagger somewhere around the front of the waist makes perfect sense too. It's a standard place to keep your long dagger in medieval or Renaissance times because it can be drawn easily with either hand; either with your right because you lost your sword or are in a close-quarters fight like a tavern, or with your left because your shield was shattered or you didn't bring your shield 'cos you were just walking through town. I've worn a long dagger or short sword there many times for LARP. So yeah. It does work. Even without one of them being your +5 Holy Avenger and the other being your +3 Vorpal Sword. Which I'm pretty sure I did a few times as an outrageously powergamey Paladin in the 1980s.
With an Ess on the AitchTeeTeePee, 'cos Dakka's software is a special snowflake.
Spoiler:
Kid_Kyoto wrote: And we're back with this week's exciting episode of 'Do Breasts Work that Way?'!
Let's meet this week's contestants!
First hailing from the great white north we have Trista, the White Wolf!
And... wait. If that's her sword in her hand then what's that in her scabbard? Does she carry two swords just in case? is one of them like a Long Sword +1/+3 vs giants while the other is a Long Sword +2 so she alternates depending on who she's fighting?
Anyway cool shield, the breast plate looks a bit... roomy shall we say, but over all quite cool
And here we have Denova, Female Mage. Cute dress, let's assume she's headed to Court or a ball and not for a dungeon, she probably has some supportive undergarments or magical assistance but overall
So we're two for two, can we go three for three?
So Reaper's wraiths were some of the first models I got from them
I loved the look of an invisible spirit with just his clothes and weapons visible)
(though now as I look at it I want to say ARMS DON'T WORK THAT WAY! anyhow...)
So now they've put out a female wraith...
An while her arms are invisible her face and bare midriff are not. I'll leave it someone else to find a meaning there.
Her mammary glands are a bit perky but I imagine being undead is chilly so she sneaks by on a technicality.
In other news...
I love a model that tells a story. Here's this one.
Morgoth, The Bloodthirsty - You want a piece of me huh? You want this, you think you can take on Morgoth The Bloodthirsty? I didn't claw and tear my way off of a Manowar album cover to go down to a punk like you, me and my howling demon sword Not'a'Frazetta'Rip'Off don't take nothing from nobod-OW! OW! OW! OW! I stabbed myself in the foot! I stabbed myself in my damned foot! Time out, time out OK? Damn that hurts! I hope I didn't drain my own soul, that would suck...
Or these dudes, no snark, they're just really good and would look fantastic standing around a bar anywhere from the Inn of the Last Home to the Prancing Pony to the space port at Mos Eisley.
Though at $20... I might wait to see if they come in Bones.
Another 'I never knew I needed them' model. Whether sitting on a withered oak in the Blighted Marsh or on a downed telephone pole After The Disaster or the ruins of an Imperial Bastion... I need them!
Finally another pair of models with infinite uses.
A squad of Nazi Zombies resurrected by science to spice up your Weird War II game.
A squad of Nazi Zombies resurrected by sorcery to battle your modern superheroes.
A squad of Nazi Zombies resurrected by alchemy to battle your modern troopers fighting in Iraq
A squad of time-traveling Nazi Zombies to battle your Roman Legion.
A squad of Kreig Death Korps Zombies to fight for Chaos.
Because the only thing better than punching Nazis is punching Nazi Zombies!
So join us next time when we will ask the question 'Do Breasts Work That Way!'
Decent assortment, some more decent than others. Can I say 'vultures don't work that way'?
The wraith baffles me. Why is she a floating head and torso? It's like they forgot to add the hands or something, since wraiths often just have cloth/misty parts instead of legs. But if you want to do the hollow effect, why the face and torso?
The buzzards are super fun. They are also supposed to have some giant bats, but no pics on the Reaper site yet.
Vermis wrote: With an Ess on the AitchTeeTeePee, 'cos Dakka's software is a special snowflake.
I think you are, as you're about the only one constantly bringing it up?
I know some of it is down to my browser du jour, but Dakka's always been peculiar about embedded images, in a way that I've never seen on any other BB board with any browser - I had to start uploading my images on the Dakka gallery because it wouldn't show pics I uploaded elsewhere - and the move to the secure server (https) has only made it odder.
But if it's that annoying (not half as bloody annoying to me, looking at pagefuls of red Xs for the want of a single consonant) I guess I'm off again with the unreasonable expectation of a tablet browser that works.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:Is the Kermit gif not coming up?
That's the only thing that doesn't show up when I stick an S in. But from the addy I can guess what it shows.
People have forgotten how a polymorph spell works? Or the Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity? There would be little problem with transgender issues in Fantasyland.
The Paladiness looks nice enough. That is how 'boob' armor ought to look, IMHO. It is obvious that she has a bosom, but the armor is not lethal to her. (y'all can ask the Google about the dangers of boob armor)
Morgoth the Bloodthirsty looks like a late '80's Chaos Warrior from GW. And not in a good way.
Yeah the boob armour makes her look like my (very large-boobed) partner when she puts her larp armour on. Looks fine to me. Although a very slim, conventionally athletically built female warrior is not going to look that different to a dude in armour, anyone with big boobs... well, they have to go somewhere. And somewhat squished like on Trista, looks right.
Reaper's 25th Silver Anniversary continues! This March, we're celebrating by giving all of our fantastic customers a FREE 25th Anniversary "Tara the Silent" Miniature all month long!
During March 2017, you'll receive a free 25th Anniversary "Tara the Silent" for each qualifying order of $40 (in your purchasing currency - USD, GBP, Euro, AUD) or more placed right here on www.reapermini.com! And what's more, for each $40 you spend, you'll receive an additional copy of the 25th Anniversary "Tara the Silent" - $80 for two, $120 for 3, etc. There's no need to place multiple orders on the same day! The FREE 25th Anniversary "Tara the Silent" is automatically added to your order at checkout when you hit $40...you don't have to to anything else.
However, for those of you who just want to buy the 25th Anniversary "Tara the Silent" miniature, it's on sale separately. So it's your choice...get it for free or just order it by itself.
And one correction, the figure I mistakenly identified as "Morgoth, The Bloodthirsty" is in fact named "Krass Omenthrall" i apologize for the error.
The Paladiness looks nice enough. That is how 'boob' armor ought to look, IMHO. It is obvious that she has a bosom, but the armor is not lethal to her. (y'all can ask the Google about the dangers of boob armor)
Well, in real life, boob armor was a little more explicit.
(From India. The only European 'boob armor' that I've found is a Celtic set that really wasn't very boob-ish).
I also have some issues with people thinking that boob armor is lethal to the wearer- mostly because guys used to wear it all the time:
It is one of those geek myths that gets spread around the internet- like how there's no such thing as a silencer (you can use sub-sonic rounds with a silencer to make an innervingly quiet gun).
I agree -- I think the "lethal boob armour" claim betrays a misunderstanding of how both plate armour, and the padding under it, work. If the blow isn't strong enough to pierce your plate armour, it's unlikely to give you more than a bruise.
Odinsgrandson... yes, but we call it a suppressor, not a silencer All you hear is the action of the firearm itself. Very creepy.
Those armors are ceremonial, not for real fighting. And quite dangerous for a woman to wear. the concave part between the breasts will split the wearer's sternum if the wearer falls or sustains a blow to the chest, even a blow that does not pierce the armor. Weapon strikes will be deflected into the sternum. Nasty stuff. And Lethal. The Paladiness's breastplate has no concavity, and thus avoids the problem while still showing a bosom.
The male 'boob plate' is not necessarily ceremonial. Such well defined armor was used by the Greeks, it made you more imposing. Putting a large horsehair crest on ones head is also dumb from a defense perspective, but people did it because it made them more intimidating.
Red Harvest wrote: Odinsgrandson... yes, but we call it a suppressor, not a silencer All you hear is the action of the firearm itself. Very creepy.
Those armors are ceremonial, not for real fighting. And quite dangerous for a woman to wear. the concave part between the breasts will split the wearer's sternum if the wearer falls or sustains a blow to the chest, even a blow that does not pierce the armor. Weapon strikes will be deflected into the sternum. Nasty stuff. And Lethal. The Paladiness's breastplate has no concavity, and thus avoids the problem while still showing a bosom.
And that'll be it for my OT.
This, it's the concave shape directing weapons right into the chest that's bad.
And here we have Denova, Female Mage. Cute dress, let's assume she's headed to Court or a ball and not for a dungeon, she probably has some supportive undergarments or magical assistance but overall
So we're two for two, can we go three for three?
So Reaper's wraiths were some of the first models I got from them
I loved the look of an invisible spirit with just his clothes and weapons visible)
(though now as I look at it I want to say ARMS DON'T WORK THAT WAY! anyhow...)
So now they've put out a female wraith...
An while her arms are invisible her face and bare midriff are not. I'll leave it someone else to find a meaning there.
In Denova's defense, a corset dress very much would look like that, and given that she is labelled a mage I could see it fit for intrigue at court, etc. I agree the wraith is silly though, if would look much better with a hollow torso and head.
You know, looking at the wraiths, one odd thing came to mind:
I would really prefer painting the ghostly girl over the empty cloak. There are just these centers of interest that are so THERE. While the cloak has these important centers of interest that are impressively NOT THERE (ok, so that's the point, but less fun to paint none-the less).
But I'll agree that it is not equal treatment.
I did start typing up a rant about boob plate, but I've got to be honest- it is WAY off topic for a thread about all of those nice sculpts from Reaper. Let's just say that I completely disagree on the basis that I've seenafewexamples. So I figure it can't be so very deadly to the wearer as all that.
Plate conforms to the user's body shape so as to spread the impact over the entire body... the whole "splitting the sternum" rant is well-intentioned but unproven.
Now, a rant about objectification of women in fantasy art would be... still off-topic but at least based on some evidence.
Personally I'm happy with boob plate and marginally less happy with cleavage plate, but we've seen enough Greek and Roman muscle armour to know that this stuff works fine on the battlefield too.
Which ever one of you made it possible for the boob plate debate to begin again should feel ashamed, ashamed and dirty. You know they can't help it, we have to protect them from themselves.
Greek muscle cuirasses are entirely different from late medieval and renaissance plate cuirasses. Later chest pieces were designed to have deflective surfaces. A large plate adorned with oversized spherical breasts would be impractical as it would add unnecessary weight and the cleavage would tend to draw impact to vital areas- a definite bad thing. A female would do fine in a standard breastplate (see Joan of Arc).
The highly stylized muscle cuirass is designed as a more ceremonial piece derived from the practical bell cuirass. It seems to have been worn by generals, kings, etc., not frontline warriors. The later Roman pieces seem to follow this trends and contemporary accounts do not record such pieces in arsenals as part of war accoutrements indicating that they were more akin to vanity items for individuals.
Combat tends to be driven by practical concerns, but higher ups generally get more distance from the messy stuff so can afford to wear more lavish or stylized pieces. Additionally, such figures are also playing political and status games. Artistic depictions have long idealized human forms, so it is not unusual to see such exaggeration in modern art forms. Add in that many artists lack significant historical knowledge on ancient warfare and that they are produced for commercial purposes driven by factors other than realism, and it's not surprising that medieval pinups continue to varying degrees.
I would expect that a rogue (as described) would be far more likely to wear some sort of quilted, leather, or sewn metal scale/chain (if expecting to be directly confronted) due to the relative ease of silencing such armor and ease of movement (though the more metal you add, the more cumbersome it gets). Painting it as leather or cloth would probably address the issue and indicate that she may also use her wiles to accomplish her aims and avoid a ridiculous "boob plate" depiction.
The "draw impact to vital areas" idea is the unproven bit. Plate armour spreads the impact over the whole area covered. It's what it's best at. It's why you also get pretty resistant to falls in plate...
Some women would do fine in a standard breastplate, but if you talk to people who wear medieval armour today, you'll find that plenty really wouldn't. Really depends on the boob size.
Modern body armour is not exactly flexible, but does tend to be more flexible than medieval plate armour. Women with big boobs still won't fit in the men's version of the armour though -- in recent years various boob-friendly versions have been made to avoid problems like this:
I know plenty of female re-enactors and larpers who do happily just strap their (smaller) boobs down and wear men's harness, but it won't work for everyone. And (DRAGGING the thread back on topic?) big-boobed warriors need representation too!
Ian Sturrock wrote: The "draw impact to vital areas" idea is the unproven bit.
Wait, what? Do you understand how deflection works? Deflecting to a valley where your vital organs are underneath is a terrible idea. We are not talking slight fluting, but two spherical surfaces with a valley right in the middle of the chest! Ancient armorers figured out really fast that was not a good idea and everything from the bell cuirass to the chest pieces still in use during early modern conflicts all reflect this understanding. The *only* reason you get anatomical adornments and what not is for artistic and westhetic reasons; which gets back to initial problem. Artists who don't understand (or maybe just don't care for other reasons) how armor works.
Plate armour spreads the impact over the whole area covered. It's what it's best at. It's why you also get pretty resistant to falls in plate...
Yes, historically, plate armor was the pinnacle of heavy armor design. It was flexible, well balanced, and generally manned by someone who had been trained to fight since a very young age in peak shape with above average nutrition. Why someone would be falling around in it, I have no idea. Maybe when forcefully dismounted or knocked down during combat, but you shouldn't just "fall". Incidentally, getting up was not particularly difficult, unless of course, you had someone on top of you trying to gut you. But it's hard to spread impact when you channel blows back to your center mass. A downward strike from an axe or bludgeon seems like it would be particularly painful, though a spear would likely be nasty too...
Some women would do fine in a standard breastplate, but if you talk to people who wear medieval armour today, you'll find that plenty really wouldn't. Really depends on the boob size.
Of course, but keep in mind that comparatively few women fought and these were more likely physically more like a modern athlete than a pinup model. And breast enhancement was not as prevalent. Female warriors are warriors first and foremost. I doubt Joan or Boudicca were concerned with appearing comely to men in battle.
Modern body armour is not exactly flexible, but does tend to be more flexible than medieval plate armour. Women with big boobs still won't fit in the men's version of the armour though -- in recent years various boob-friendly versions have been made to avoid problems like this:
I know plenty of female re-enactors and larpers who do happily just strap their (smaller) boobs down and wear men's harness, but it won't work for everyone. And (DRAGGING the thread back on topic?) big-boobed warriors need representation too!
Modern body armor is much different that historical plate armor. Explaining why goes far off topic, but even modern body armor doesn't have boob plates. And I would steer clear of using LARP/reenactors as a source of historical verification.
Some women would do fine in a standard breastplate, but if you talk to people who wear medieval armour today, you'll find that plenty really wouldn't. Really depends on the boob size.
Of course, but keep in mind that comparatively few women fought and these were more likely physically more like a modern athlete than a pinup model. And breast enhancement was not as prevalent. Female warriors are warriors first and foremost. I doubt Joan or Boudicca were concerned with appearing comely to men in battle.
To be fair, there is little evidence that either of these women were extremely active warriors. Joan in particular is believed to have been mostly a figurehead/inspiring presence and was about 14 at the time she was riding around. She likely did see combat, but first and foremost it was her presence that inspired.
They likely dressed to impress in some aspect. Having a female commander would have been used to demoralize the enemy, and that requires some level of show casing 'I'm a girl'. Not the modern mini style, but lack of helmet, a dress, similar.
Resistance to falling damage does generally come into play when knocked off a horse, thrown from a horse, etc. Mike Loades did a pretty neat video of same for his "Weapons That Made Britain" ep on armour.
Note that with the particular mini we're talking about, Trista, it's boob-plate but not full-on cleavage-plate. I did already say that I found the former more sensible. But I remain unconvinced that the latter will break yer sternum. Yes, a more deflecty kind of armoured surface would be more strictly practical, but we have plenty of heavily ornamented, less deflecty (technical term there) armour in the real world. And it turns out that looking fabulous has a number of benefits too, of course. I suspect that in a well-made harness, the loss of protection caused by some bits of decoration where a sword might catch, is minimal, and worth it for looking good.
As for how important it is for us to ignore the people who actually wear and fight in armour today, in favour of the people who only think about it... Right.
Its quite simple really. Round surfaces deflect the blade to one side, unless you manage to strike them at a 90° angle. Not very likely. So, the question is, where is the blade deflected to? Ideally, you want to get the blade *away* from your body. If youve got a single curve in your breastplate, you can accomplish this. Two curves though? The blade can glance off either way: If it strikes on the outside of the boobplate, its still (relatively) harmless. If its on the inner side (the cleavage part), it slides into the crease, at which point it strikes a concave surface, which is a lot less protective. Its quite likely to get through the armour, especially if youre stabbing.
Its really hard to show what I mean without images, but I cant really be bothered right now, soooo... hope its still clear enough.
Ian Sturrock wrote: but we have plenty of heavily ornamented, less deflecty (technical term there) armour in the real world.
Now tell us, how much of that heavily ornamented, less deflecty armor comes from battlefield excavations, and how much from the private collections of noble families with minimal wear, much less actual battle damage?
Everyone knows that falling damage caps out at 10d6 and accordingly 121 hit points are all that is required to fall any distance then get up and fight with 100℅ effectiveness, every time. Boob plate has nothing to do with that, and the technicalities are somewhat off topic.
Elbows wrote: I think it's really an extension of the expectation/entitlement that human society is rapidly developing. We are (myself included) the generations of "now", and sadly the generations of "blame X!" for anything which upsets our delicate lives.
Being upset over some late toy soldiers shouldn't register on anyone's radar...I'd argue the fact that it can or does indicates how damn good our/your lives are to start with. If you have the luxury to be pissed that you blew $200-300-400 on toy soldiers and they're a few months late - life is frikkin' good.
I'm sitting on a couple of high dollar Kickstarters that are years...YEARS late and probably won't ever actually occur. I gambled and lost. Says right there on the Kickstarter page that it's all a big risk. It sucks and I won't be buying anything from those companies in the future...but that's about it. What good does it do me to get in a tizzy over it? I can warn people off about the companies (Gamezone and Palladium - to no one's surprise) but threats and pouting like a child? Pointless.
If you're not comfortable with the risk - don't do the Kickstarter. End of story.
This kind of defence of late kickstarters isn't useful either. I mean, mental cases and death threats are beyond the pale, but project management ranging from poor to flat out dishonest isn't something that nobody should be pissed off to angry about either. Calling people who have shelled out significant amounts of money with legitimate gripes "entitled" and going on about "delicate lives" is frankly insulting and childish and does nobody any good.
It's way too fething far in the other direction and both forgives and allows people like Jeremy Glen, our mate Kevin, that guy behind Defiance Games, Imbrian Arts and even the absolute half-arsing of Trollcast to get away with such bs and flakery - with literally millions of dollars. Unless you think that rewarding rip-off artists and scammers is a good thing?
You seem to think that not taking that sort of thing with good grace and not making a fuss is "pouting" and a bunch of other condescending things that you've posted. Like someone who's never had to work hard for their money or fight for anything. And if you don't like the tone of making insulting assumptions about others, then perhaps try not to do it yourself in future?
Elbows wrote: I think it's really an extension of the expectation/entitlement that human society is rapidly developing. We are (myself included) the generations of "now", and sadly the generations of "blame X!" for anything which upsets our delicate lives.
Being upset over some late toy soldiers shouldn't register on anyone's radar...I'd argue the fact that it can or does indicates how damn good our/your lives are to start with. If you have the luxury to be pissed that you blew $200-300-400 on toy soldiers and they're a few months late - life is frikkin' good.
I'm sitting on a couple of high dollar Kickstarters that are years...YEARS late and probably won't ever actually occur. I gambled and lost. Says right there on the Kickstarter page that it's all a big risk. It sucks and I won't be buying anything from those companies in the future...but that's about it. What good does it do me to get in a tizzy over it? I can warn people off about the companies (Gamezone and Palladium - to no one's surprise) but threats and pouting like a child? Pointless.
If you're not comfortable with the risk - don't do the Kickstarter. End of story.
This kind of defence of late kickstarters isn't useful either. I mean, mental cases and death threats are beyond the pale, but project management ranging from poor to flat out dishonest isn't something that nobody should be pissed off to angry about either. Calling people who have shelled out significant amounts of money with legitimate gripes "entitled" and going on about "delicate lives" is frankly insulting and childish and does nobody any good.
It's way too fething far in the other direction and both forgives and allows people like Jeremy Glen, our mate Kevin, that guy behind Defiance Games, Imbrian Arts and even the absolute half-arsing of Trollcast to get away with such bs and flakery - with literally millions of dollars. Unless you think that rewarding rip-off artists and scammers is a good thing?
Agreed that things can go too far in either direction. If someone goes to a restaurant, orders food, and is still waiting an hour later then they'll be a bit annoyed and that is hardly unique to a certain generation. While Kickstarter does come with uncertainty and risk, at some point people are paying X money for Y product in Z timeframe, and if Z doesn't pan out they aren't getting what they paid for. 'But its kickstarter, there's always risk' doesn't suddenly mean that any amount of screw-up is OK.
Every medieval breastplate design comes in at the waist, just above the faulds... surely if the "boob plate will crack yer sternum!" crew are right, any sideways blow from a heavy weapon on the breastplate would be magically guided down to the depression at the waist and cut the soldier in half?
Surely the one armourer whose article we've all read and thought "gosh I was right all along, boob plate was silly", or "gosh, well, boob plate is still silly but I'm not convinced it's more dangerous than not wearing armour", depending on our initial biases, would by now be able to report an actual cracked sternum from one of his many boob-plate-buying customers? He was pretty sure that if one of them just tripped and fell she would be straight off to A&E with a busted chest, right?
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This thread inspired me to do a Bones order from the main UK seller and possessor of the company name most likely to make your postal operative assume you are ordering adult novelties, SnM Stuff. I got a Trista in the order so will let you all know how fantastic she is, and try not to talk about her boobs too much.
Ian Sturrock wrote: Every medieval breastplate design comes in at the waist, just above the faulds... surely if the "boob plate will crack yer sternum!" crew are right, any sideways blow from a heavy weapon on the breastplate would be magically guided down to the depression at the waist and cut the soldier in half?
Surely the one armourer whose article we've all read and thought "gosh I was right all along, boob plate was silly", or "gosh, well, boob plate is still silly but I'm not convinced it's more dangerous than not wearing armour", depending on our initial biases, would by now be able to report an actual cracked sternum from one of his many boob-plate-buying customers? He was pretty sure that if one of them just tripped and fell she would be straight off to A&E with a busted chest, right?
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This thread inspired me to do a Bones order from the main UK seller and possessor of the company name most likely to make your postal operative assume you are ordering adult novelties, SnM Stuff. I got a Trista in the order so will let you all know how fantastic she is, and try not to talk about her boobs too much.
Is Trista the Viking Paladin? I thought everyone was complaining about the deal of the month mini, which is not available in Bones, but which does have individually pronounced boobs.
We're not really talking about a particular mini. We're just talking about the possibility of boob plate being realistic- and whether the argument that it would kill you is implausible. It is general- I think we all agree that the paladin woman looks well protected.
Ian Sturrock wrote: but we have plenty of heavily ornamented, less deflecty (technical term there) armour in the real world.
Now tell us, how much of that heavily ornamented, less deflecty armor comes from battlefield excavations, and how much from the private collections of noble families with minimal wear, much less actual battle damage?
First off- the Persian, Celtic and Turkish boob plate that I linked to were not overly ornamental- they were clearly meant for combat (the Indian plate was the most exaggerated, and was probably more of the ornamental sort).
But- ornamental armor was also used for combat. Shakespear's Henry V has a lot of talk about the adornments on French battle armor. These were the knights who went to the front lines. Most of the nicer armors would have been collected after the battle (we have thousands of myths that account for both allies and enemies collecting expensive, sometimes magical armor off of the dead- sometimes as trophies- it would be hard to imagine that this was a taboo on the real battlefield). We have a little evidence that they were used in combat and we lack evidence that they were not used in combat.
And remember that the general wasn't always the guy who stayed way behind. Alexander the Great fought from a chariot, for example, and throughout the middle ages, leaders would lead from the frontish (usually in heavy armor on horseback with a retinue of bodyguards).
Armor has two concerns- fashion and utility. In a feudal society, it is important to display wealth- and this is still important when you're a wealthy knight charging ahead of the men at arms (foot soldiers weren't afforded very good armor). Now, if you're a lord with knights under you, you need to make sure you look good (in feudal society, appearances played a sort of is/ought fallacy- you needed to look like you're the best, and that proves that you should be).
Fashion is important, and even though Europe did not have armor for women, it is not inconceivable that armors made in a society that has women fighting more often would (and it turns out, did) have separate sorts of armor for women that exaggerated gender features.
Many male armors exaggerate sexual features of the wearer (on men, this includes muscle plate, enhanced shoulder pads and exaggerated codpieces that we don't often see on minis).
(If you've ever wondered why almost every knight in armor mini has a little chainmail mini skirt covering the loins, that would be why).
Interesting side note- the fashion vs. utility stuff still goes on today. The camouflage used by the US military was proven to be less effective than some alternatives before it was implemented, but used because the generals in charge liked the look of it more.
In addition, the US navy started using "blue camouflage" which is completely stupid (where the @#($ are they hiding?). But it fits in with the standards the other branches of the military were using. They did this for fashion concerns (and added a chemical that turns orange if it gets wet. This saves people in man overboard situations, but it also makes most sailors armpits orange- so they ended up with tacky fashion in addition to useless camo).
Combat fashion is a thing.
Now, there are times when it clearly goes too far (bare midrift plate, low neckline plate or keyhole neckline plate, and all sorts of bikini shaped armor-like things). I'm absolutely not going to argue that the majority of minis of women are highly sexualized or objectified. But I get irked when people attack this one aspect as if it can't be a thing (it can and has been a thing).
Elbows wrote: I think it's really an extension of the expectation/entitlement that human society is rapidly developing. We are (myself included) the generations of "now", and sadly the generations of "blame X!" for anything which upsets our delicate lives.
Being upset over some late toy soldiers shouldn't register on anyone's radar...I'd argue the fact that it can or does indicates how damn good our/your lives are to start with. If you have the luxury to be pissed that you blew $200-300-400 on toy soldiers and they're a few months late - life is frikkin' good.
I'm sitting on a couple of high dollar Kickstarters that are years...YEARS late and probably won't ever actually occur. I gambled and lost. Says right there on the Kickstarter page that it's all a big risk. It sucks and I won't be buying anything from those companies in the future...but that's about it. What good does it do me to get in a tizzy over it? I can warn people off about the companies (Gamezone and Palladium - to no one's surprise) but threats and pouting like a child? Pointless.
If you're not comfortable with the risk - don't do the Kickstarter. End of story.
This kind of defence of late kickstarters isn't useful either. I mean, mental cases and death threats are beyond the pale, but project management ranging from poor to flat out dishonest isn't something that nobody should be pissed off to angry about either. Calling people who have shelled out significant amounts of money with legitimate gripes "entitled" and going on about "delicate lives" is frankly insulting and childish and does nobody any good.
It's way too fething far in the other direction and both forgives and allows people like Jeremy Glen, our mate Kevin, that guy behind Defiance Games, Imbrian Arts and even the absolute half-arsing of Trollcast to get away with such bs and flakery - with literally millions of dollars. Unless you think that rewarding rip-off artists and scammers is a good thing?
You seem to think that not taking that sort of thing with good grace and not making a fuss is "pouting" and a bunch of other condescending things that you've posted. Like someone who's never had to work hard for their money or fight for anything. And if you don't like the tone of making insulting assumptions about others, then perhaps try not to do it yourself in future?
odinsgrandson wrote: Fashion is important, and even though Europe did not have armor for women, it is not inconceivable that armors made in a society that has women fighting more often would (and it turns out, did) have separate sorts of armor for women that exaggerated gender features.
Many male armors exaggerate sexual features of the wearer (on men, this includes muscle plate, enhanced shoulder pads and exaggerated codpieces that we don't often see on minis).
(If you've ever wondered why almost every knight in armor mini has a little chainmail mini skirt covering the loins, that would be why).
Fun fact: The codpieces were (originally) functional. Henry VIII (along with a large portion of European nobility) had a bad case of syphilis, and the enlarged codpieces not only kept his genitalia from making painful contact with his armor, but also held medication to relieve symptoms.
Hey look more people trying to shame others for enjoying classical fantasy tropes! Just what the most lighthearted thread on Dakka needs!
I like most of those models. Though Reaper's issues with poses are still a thing. I would go for the special figure this month but thanks to people making sure every single Kickstarter has at least all the basic classes covered by females I will pass.
MLaw wrote: Hey look more people trying to shame others for enjoying classical fantasy tropes! Just what the most lighthearted thread on Dakka needs!
Um... no one was?
Well, he did have to point out that enjoying objectifying women is totally fine if it is "a classical fantasy trope", even though the discussion seemed pretty firmly focused on the practicality of mammary styled chest plates. I am surprised that "SJW" or "red pill" wasn't slipped in somehow. It is *so* hard being a male these days
Well it seems the new releases were simply too bland for Kid_Kyoto to comment. I suppose we will have to spread the word that Kid_Kyoto now feels that metal is an inferior material
NinthMusketeer wrote: Well it seems the new releases were simply too bland for Kid_Kyoto to comment. I suppose we will have to spread the word that Kid_Kyoto now feels that metal is an inferior material
Geeze tough crowd, they've not even up for a day.
I'll get to them but for now I have to highlight the female elf blacksmith, such grace, such elegance, a figure with uses not only in D&D but also in Rune Quest, Shadowrun and 40k.
jmurph wrote: It is odd that they haven't been getting pics up for the new releases. Giant bats still don't have a pic, even though I have seen them in stock.
So is it a giant with bat wings or a bat that is giant sized?
I'm not sure what these are. My Little Pony cosplay?
"Honey, my I think they got my order wrong at Starbucks. Tastes kinda... poison-y. Why are you holding that glaive?"
"I don't know what you're talking about, dear."
(Hope I'm not to stepping on Kid_Kyoto's toes here, but I was inspired... )
First off as noted we have the female elven blacksmith
And a Female Skoli Warrior
Frankly two of the best female models I've seen in ages and real sign of what Reaper can do with today's casting technology. You honestly have to be a real gamer and fan to perceive how good these models are!
Then we have two kitsune, which I am fairly certain is not a Portuguese loan word.
These models can not only be used as Japanese fox spirits, but as beast men, mutants, werefoxes, fox-like aliens, furries and especially good cosplayers who are into obscure characters. I predict great things for this line!
And we have Rhaegar, the male fighter. But why he only fights males I don't know. Chivalry maybe? Sexism? How does he feel about the transgender? or sexless beings like jellyfish? Or Elves? It just raises so many questions.
Every so often Reaper does a model I never knew I needed.
now the dwarf mage on a battle pony is no Leprechaun on an owl, but yeah, I can see myself buying him. Then rolling up a new D&D character just to use him.
OK, this is an odd one.
Not just because it's some sore of metrosexual pretty boy on one of the chairs at Trump Tower, but because Reaper already put him out in bones and a multipart metal kit with choice of heads.
Well now the multipart is gone, and only the pretty boy remains.
There's a lesson in there somewhere.
And finally we have Jonas Kane, Undead Hunter.
"Found them!"
Join us next week when we'll be reviewing Reaper's new line of Were-Whales, undead Giraffes and off-duty construction workers sitting on diner stools!
Keep up the good work -- are we going to have a separate Bones IV KS thread with more of your commentary?
Thanks! When it happens I'd recommend Bones 4 get its own thread, mixing stuff that's actually available with stuff that you might get a year from now makes for a confusing thread.
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The two missing models are up.
I'm not at all sure what a Skoli Warrior is but from this example I can see that despite the humanoid appearance this species keeps all their vital organs in their thighs and left shoulders, the chest area is completely superfluous and thus left unarmored.
As for Laril Silverhand, how much do I love the fact that her anvil is coordinated with her apron! Does she have several anvils to go with the apron she's wearing today? Now that's what it means to be an elf.
And finally...
It's always weird how much junk players load their characters down with, just in case. I mean a lantern sure, save those spells for Cure Light Wounds and Bless, canteen, yep, dagger? I assume she convinced the DM it was a cooking knife. But I've never seen even the most obsessive player add a snowboard to inventory. Someone really needs to look at the encumbrance rules.
It's always weird how much junk players load their characters down with, just in case. I mean a lantern sure, save those spells for Cure Light Wounds and Bless, canteen, yep, dagger? I assume she convinced the DM it was a cooking knife. But I've never seen even the most obsessive player add a snowboard to inventory. Someone really needs to look at the encumbrance rules.
Nonsense! She's carrying a mace so she's obviously a cleric, which means she's a healer and that must be a spine board for transporting PCs with cervical injuries back to the local inn.
It's always weird how much junk players load their characters down with, just in case. I mean a lantern sure, save those spells for Cure Light Wounds and Bless, canteen, yep, dagger? I assume she convinced the DM it was a cooking knife. But I've never seen even the most obsessive player add a snowboard to inventory. Someone really needs to look at the encumbrance rules.
Encumbrance doesn't exist, if you don't acknowledge it.
So, he's a reanimated skeleton with enough fine motor control to handle a marionette, but such poor muscle control he's knocking his knees like a French ogre pinup?
It's always weird how much junk players load their characters down with, just in case. I mean a lantern sure, save those spells for Cure Light Wounds and Bless, canteen, yep, dagger? I assume she convinced the DM it was a cooking knife. But I've never seen even the most obsessive player add a snowboard to inventory. Someone really needs to look at the encumbrance rules.
Nonsense! She's carrying a mace so she's obviously a cleric, which means she's a healer and that must be a spine board for transporting PCs with cervical injuries back to the local inn.
Maybe a boogie board. Or a grittle for hot cakes. That bottle on her hip is obviously maple syrup.
BobtheInquisitor wrote:So, he's a reanimated skeleton with enough fine motor control to handle a marionette, but such poor muscle control he's knocking his knees like a French ogre pinup?
Shameful how fashion promotes an unhealthy body image like this. She's... Skin and bones.
I've mentioned before I love it when a miniature tells a story.
Here's Kiri's:
お父さん: Kiri! What are you wearing? You are not going out to stalk the rooftops and assassinate the dishonorable Daimyo dressed like that!
きり: Daaaaad! it's the fashion, all the Kunoichi are wearing it this season!
お父さん: What, you're going somersaulting over a wall and cutting down a dozen Ashigaru like so much ripe wheat with your hair hanging out, what if they grab it? What if they see your silky black tresses gistening in the moonlight and raise an alarm forcing you to throw down a smoke bomb, leap atop the pagoda roof and dispatch the incoming Samurai with a metal storm of steel shuriken?
きり: Daaaad! That's totally what happened last week and I was fine.
お父さん: What about sleeves, won't you chafe your skin as you scale the stone walls of the temple to steal the ill-begotten gold the corrupt 僧侶 extorted from the peasants and then return the coins to the grateful working masses?
きり: Only if I do it wrong! I'm not a kid you know, just last week I scaled a stone wall dressed in full Maiko regalia and didn't even smudge my lipstick.
(wind kicks up)
お父さん: And, and... 聖なる仏! Are you wearing anything under your tunic?!
きり: Daaaaad! It's called going commando! All the Kunoichi are doing it!
Kul Inkit also has a story to tell
Jul Hinkit - Kul, how many times to I have to tell you, the spiked shoulder pad goes on your RIGHT shoulder, your left side is already protected by your oversized shield that looks much too heavy for your graceful willow-like arms!
Kul Inkit - Daaaaad! It's the fashion! All the barbarian doom maidens are wearing it that way!
Honestly I like Kevoth-Kul the Black Sovereign but I don't see why he had to drag race into this.
Bregan the Valkyrie can assume fighter, battloid and gerwalk modes.
Bet you thought I was going to say something about her enormous pair of... belts didn't you. Well this is a classy toy soldier message board so I got nothing to say about her her pair of belts.
Back in the day the original Monster Manual made their Hobgoblins look like Samurai which I really liked so I gave them a Japanese style society (or what my 13 year old self thought was a Japanese style society at least). So bottom line, I approve.
This female hobgoblin can also pass as female goblin archer, a female half orc archer or even a female trollop archer with minimal conversion.
So does being a Deep One High Priest average out to being a shallow one? Or is that just reaching?
I've mentioned before I love it when a miniature tells a story.(I'll get me coat)
I love your posts.
Not a fan of the girl with the bank-vault-door for a shield, or the guy with the ginormous sword. I like the ninja girl and the barbarian girl. The two hobgoblins are ace and froggy boy, too. I'll have to add those five to my shopping list.
Going Commando? Ack. Now I've been triggered. Years ago, I watched the Japanese series "Zatoichi". There was this one scene where Zatoichi was wearing just such a tunic as that mini... <shudder> I'll spare everyone the details.
In retrospect I could have kept the theme up with Bregan, so...
Odin - Just where do you think you're going young lady?
Bregan - Um, y'know, out, shopping, grab some pizza, choose some slain.
Odin - Dressed like that!?
Bregan - Daaaad it's the style, all the immortal incarnations of worthy death are wearing it these days.
Odin - Where's your chain mail bikini? Where's your bare midriff? Where's your helm with the impractical wings?
Bregan - Daaaad! We live in the land of the ice and snow! It's cold here! Can't I wear I nice breast plate and some fur leggings? And the chain mail briefs... they y'know, chafe.
Odin - As sure as my name's Odin no daughter of mine is going out dressed like that!
Bregan - I thought your name was Wodan now, after that thing with Marvel comics.
Wodan - Yes, as I said as sure as my name is Wodan you are going to put on your chain mail bikini before you go out!
Bregan - Can I at least skip the hat? Last week I was picking up Sven son of Yorggi and he was lying dying in a hut and I was all like 'Fear not for tonight you shall feast in Valhalla' but the wings got stuck in the doorway and the hat fell off and I had to bend over to pick up and I think he checked out my butt.
Wodan - OK, fine, no hat. But put on your bikini before you go out!
Bregan - Fine! (Slams door)
Woden - Kids today...
Featuring dragon who's had too much fiber in its diet and surprised owner.
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*Probably* gonna sit this one out for the Dwarven Forge KS, but, if you want your terrain in resin, Reaper's part of the CROM miniatures game starting on the 15th.
(Whoever pledges, start a new thread and maintain it.)
So, not at all interested in the game and felt the figures look kind of meh, but I love the terrain. Still looks undersized for 25mm+, but will work great for some imposing 15mm terrain! And not in crappy bonesium.
I think Bones would have worked fine for those. It sucks for small figs, but works well on bigger stuff. I'm bummed they went with resin... more expensive, less durable, and basically tripled the price.
jmurph wrote: So, not at all interested in the game and felt the figures look kind of meh, but I love the terrain. Still looks undersized for 25mm+, but will work great for some imposing 15mm terrain! And not in crappy bonesium.
I've seen some photos of that snake statue next to 28mm figures for comparison, and its quite big. I believe the masonry platform itself is 28-30mm tall.
Yeah, the prices are a bit high. The Oasis is $35 for a rough terrain piece and 2 trees. The Statue of Set is $50 for a plinth and a big snake. It does seem to be pretty big though. At $20, the standing stones is more than the old Scotia Grendel Standing Stones, which got you 2 that seem comparable in size and quality.
The Temple for $30 doesn't seem too bad, though it was the one I thought looked undersized for the figs. Seems comparable to the old SG Ruined Acropolis. Likewise $40 isn't terrible for the novelty of the Tower of the Elephant, though I feel like a Ganesh idol on a plinth could probably stand in for much cheaper...
Really seems like the Conan brand is upping the price on these.
Ma'al Drakar is a Reaper Bones Heroic Scale Boxed Set model. Stands over 12" high with a 13" wingspan. Comes in 16 easy-to-assemble pieces.
Some sort of winged hydra I think...
Had an idea though paint each head a different color and use it as some sort of five-headed dragon, with the powers of each dragon color!
Damn that'll catch the players totally unaware!
$150 is insane. There's a 5 headed resin (I am pretty sure it's resin) statue of similar size from one of those furniture companies that sells crazy dragon tables and similar for I think $85 plus they almost always have a 20% or similar discount coupon if you spend 2 minutes in Google looking for it. I raised the notion that some of the prices in the Kickstarter weren't exactly that great of a deal compared to market alternatives.. or in some cases even normal Reaper models and Bryan kinda scoffed at it.
Don't get me wrong.. some of the stuff is okay and a decent price but I feel like they've lost the plot on what the supposed point of Bones was in the first place. In the meantime Monolith, CMoN, and others are using the same concept to sell boardgames.. Can't tell you how many of those I've backed just for the minis. Just got Swords and Sorcery in yesterday (oh.. and it has a 5 headed dragon).
Anyway, I'm sure people will keep backing Bones KS but the value fell off as bad as it did with Dwarven Forge IMO.
Wiz kids' Nolzur line is primed to swoop in and snatch away Reaper's customers. $4 for two wizards, each at least as well sculpted and more crisply cast than a single $4 Bones wizard? Wiz kids gets it. Hope they go for a range of medium to large monsters and create some real competition.
WizKids line is okay, they don't have the depth of choice that Bones does. I have enough room for both in my hobby.
The WK stuff is pre-primed and it is layer on thick, there is a lot of detail that is obscured. Bones may not have deep detail, but it is there.
I like both, but Bones just has more. WK is good for character archetype figures and a few monsters, but Bones has more monsters and the character figures have more character than the WK offerings.
Yeah, the WK priming makes them pretty junky. But I got fed up with Bonesium, too. The quality is very spotty and while they are fine for cheap minis, as a centerpiece, it is a poor material and definitely not worth $150.
Comparing line depth is a little unfair at this point as Reaper has had their lines going for a lot longer and had multiple Kickstarters. Hopefully WK will hang on and expand the line. I agree that the competition will be a good thing.
xraytango wrote: WizKids line is okay, they don't have the depth of choice that Bones does. I have enough room for both in my hobby.
The WK stuff is pre-primed and it is layer on thick, there is a lot of detail that is obscured. Bones may not have deep detail, but it is there.
I like both, but Bones just has more. WK is good for character archetype figures and a few monsters, but Bones has more monsters and the character figures have more character than the WK offerings.
I admit I dont have any of the KS 3 bones, but the 2nd KS ones essentially had "No Face-itus" that the first generation did. Wizkids is the far superior product for man sized figures. Crisper detail, weapons with edges, NOSES, etc. Other than some primer getting on a clear spell effect, I havent noticed any issue with the primer being too thick. They've been on par with Black Plague/Monolith's Conan figures, which is fair for the price point.
The depth of the range should grow, they released safe standards as their first waves, which makes sense. The next waves are stated to have tieflings, dragonborn and more monsters. Save the half orc bard with xylophone for wave 3.
Part of the issue with the Wizkids figures is that, not only is it limited, but the two figures you get are supposed to be the same character. From what I can tell, each blister is supposed to be a hero with one veraion being a low level version and the other being an advanced version. The details are seriously soft on them, too.
Having received my Bones 3 stuff, I can confirm that the quality seems much improved. At the very least, the Mythos set is well improved. Every figure in my set has very sharp, crisp features. The sea captain in particular came out well.
My Bones 3 minis are about as soft as previous waves, which doesn't really bother me until I go to buy a Bones figure at retail and see the price has nearly doubled over what a comparable mini from Bones 1 would have cost. Bendy swords and fetal noses can be overlooked for a bargain of a figure, but once the price per mini passes that of a more premium product the flaws sure do glare a whole lot more.
So, while the Wizkids line may not be for everyone, I'm glad it's out there to give Reaper some (hopefully) sleepless nights.
Barzam wrote: Part of the issue with the Wizkids figures is that, not only is it limited, but the two figures you get are supposed to be the same character. From what I can tell, each blister is supposed to be a hero with one veraion being a low level version and the other being an advanced version. The details are seriously soft on them, too.
Do you have any pics of the bad ones? Hasnt been my experience at all, or any of the reviews I've seen online. I was thinking of grabbing some of the gnolls, so if there's some to avoid, it would be good.
The gnolls are the only ones I have atm. Maybe the detail is crisper on the others, but a lot of the details on the gnolls were hard to make out. I'm on my phone right now, so linking is difficult to do, but I have a pic in my gallery of one of the gnolls painted up. The teeth he has on his belt were just blobs and it's almost impossible to tell which details on his torso are supposed to be shirt, skin, or armor. Plus, the sculptor apparently made the odd choice of having ghe bits of metal armor he is wearing just kind of floating on him. Most of it isn't attached to anything and bits of it just appear in random spots on his upper arms. It's really odd.
I just buy plastic by the bucket (: at a Reaper or a boardgames KS. I don't paint beyond advanced tabletop, so the better quality stuff is lost on me, and don't know what miniatures I'll be using, so a library-o-mini's works in my case.
Thank you for that link, Ced. I was just thinking about buying more of these minis for my son and I to paint together when he gets out of school. We have some big Bones monsters ready to go, but Nolzurs are primed and don't need to be washed, so they are easier to bring to the table when we get a sudden case of painting ADD.
Barzam wrote: The gnolls are the only ones I have atm. Maybe the detail is crisper on the others, but a lot of the details on the gnolls were hard to make out. I'm on my phone right now, so linking is difficult to do, but I have a pic in my gallery of one of the gnolls painted up. The teeth he has on his belt were just blobs and it's almost impossible to tell which details on his torso are supposed to be shirt, skin, or armor. Plus, the sculptor apparently made the odd choice of having ghe bits of metal armor he is wearing just kind of floating on him. Most of it isn't attached to anything and bits of it just appear in random spots on his upper arms. It's really odd.
I see what you mean about the floating armor on the torso it does look weird. I think you did a good job painting it and that mitigates the problem. I have the Frostgrave cultists are their gnolls much smaller or is the wizkids gnoll giant sized?
A bit of both. The Frostgrave guys are a bit on the smaller side- and that includes the gnolls- and the Wizkids gnolls are on the large side. The bigger size does work in the Wizkids figure's favor if you plan on using him as a hero.
Ma'al Drakar is a Reaper Bones Heroic Scale Boxed Set model. Stands over 12" high with a 13" wingspan. Comes in 16 easy-to-assemble pieces.
Some sort of winged hydra I think...
Had an idea though paint each head a different color and use it as some sort of five-headed dragon, with the powers of each dragon color!
Damn that'll catch the players totally unaware!
I just got my bones 3 box the other day. I got this figure, plus two other dragons and several sets of giants and other big stuff. Ma'al Drakar still took up more than half the shipping box. He's ginormous!!!
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Nostromodamus wrote: Glad I got mine for $60 during the KS. It's a lovely model, but not $150 lovely...
Yeah, its a must buy at $60 but $150 for a Bones miniature? Even one that big?
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And we're back with real minis for real people forged from pure METAL
First we have a long-awaited figure the frankly I am shocked no one has made before and which will fill gaps in many of our collections, the Half Orc Merchant.
Though why he only sells half orcs is a mystery to me.
Mara Frostraven the Female Anti-Paladin regularly protests the patriarchal attitudes of paladins, crusaders and cavaliers by posting emphatic memes on her Facebook page.
D'Mona is the proud owner of the Mordor franchise of Vampirella's House of Fine Fashion and is seen here modeling the new Fall Line. Along with her sisters D'Lisa and D'Stacy she always makes sure female vampires look and feel their best.
I... I just love this little guy! A skeleton halfling, armed with a meat cleaver! he has no stomach but you totally know he's going to eat you! With minimal conversion he can be a skeletal dwarf, skeletal hobbit, skeletal gnome, skeletal child or even a skeletal midget for your homebrew Game of Throne Campaign where Tyrion joined the Night Watch and was turned into a wight by the White Walkers.
And a weapon swap will turn him into a skeletal Ratling for 8th edition!
Better pick up a couple of them.
So... wait. He's a skeletal minotaur. OK, got that. But why his is hammer handle bone? Wouldn't it splinter the first time he hit something? And did he have a bone hammer before he was turned into a skeleton or is it something he picked up after being skilled, rotting to bones and then being reanimated? And isn't a battleaxe more traditional? So many questions...
Wait.
OK I know this is supposed to be a skeletal elf and yes somehow you have to show that visually so he's not mistaken for a skeletal tall skinny human. Sure he's got a bow and a cloak and all that but you really want to seal the deal.
But why does he still have a lush mane of hair? Does elf hair not fall off? Is it rooted into the skull like a Barbie doll's hair? Is it actually made of calcium? Will we ever know?
Just cut and paste what I said about the elf here.
And finally we have a skeletal farmer, captured and reanimated just as he was on his way to the harvest with his scythe still in his hands. Nice to see the common man being represented here!
Kid_Kyoto wrote: And we're back with real minis for real people forged from pure METAL
Mara Frostraven the Female Anti-Paladin regularly protests the patriarchal attitudes of paladins, crusaders and cavaliers by posting emphatic memes on her Facebook page.
I... I just love this little guy! A skeleton halfling, armed with a meat cleaver! he has no stomach but you totally know he's going to eat you! With minimal conversion he can be a skeletal dwarf, skeletal hobbit, skeletal gnome, skeletal child or even a skeletal midget for your homebrew Game of Throne Campaign where Tyrion joined the Night Watch and was turned into a wight by the White Walkers.
And a weapon swap will turn him into a skeletal Ratling for 8th edition!
This is why Hobbits Halflings should never, ever, skip Second Breakfast. They starve to death that quickly. This is a good mini too.
Knowing the fanbase and how they react to that sort of thing, chances are no.
To be fair - the CAV Kickstarters have not been nearly as successful.
It is not that Reaper does not like SF - it is simply that is not where the money is, in regards to their products.
The bad reaction was from folks that would much rather have seen more fantasy than some space corsairs.
On the flip side - I have seen a fair number of the SF Bathalians from Bones II being used in fantasy - mostly in Night Stalker armies for Kings of War.
Bones II did have some steampunk, including some Wizard of Oz steampunk figures.
Yeah.. Reaper pisses on sci-fi. Sorry for anyone that doesn't believe that but the sci-fi models they do have are largely nowhere near the standards of their fantasy models or the rest of the industry in general. When I asked Bryan about this he basically scoffed at the idea. Meanwhile, I am watching all sorts of sci-fi KS really do well (and ..cough cough 8th ed 40k). Whatever.. it's the diehard fantasy people that are stuck in their ways.. that's well and good and it's really just obvious that Reaper has a very small comfort zone and they want to stay pretty well in that area. To be fair, their miniatures are far more geared towards roleplay and not tabletop games.. so it's probably for the better.
As to bones specifically.. I've heard people are receiving Bones 3 packages. I did not back this one but have been painting some things with my kids from bones 2 and have noticed a lot of horrible castings (warpage, slilps, huge seams, etc) and am wondering if anyone who has gotten their B3 has seen a difference or it's the same?
Kinda funny that the point was cheaper stuff (which I approve) but I'll likely end up getting the ones from B3 that I liked in metal instead.
One of the Bones III $50 sets was a sf-based set, including terrain. Even some Reaper regulars are saying they will be picking up add-ons over the core, so you can ignore the core as well and see how much sf there is.
Reaper Miniatures was formed years after Games Workshop, and it looks like they're going for the generic fantasy RPG market, rather than compete on anything that's GW-ish, such as wargaming (Reaper dropped its Warlord and CAV is a partnership with Talon Games). SFRPGs are not as universal as generic fantasy, which is a strength for GW's IP, but not for a company that would make sf miniatures for other game systems. Reaper isn't as big as GW, but it's been around for 20+ years. With Bones, you might as well be asking why Reaper doesn't make boardgames like CMON does, considering that yet another recent CMON KS makes $1M more than a Bones one.
ced1106 wrote: One of the Bones III $50 sets was a sf-based set, including terrain. Even some Reaper regulars are saying they will be picking up add-ons over the core, so you can ignore the core as well and see how much sf there is.
Reaper Miniatures was formed years after Games Workshop, and it looks like they're going for the generic fantasy RPG market, rather than compete on anything that's GW-ish, such as wargaming (Reaper dropped its Warlord and CAV is a partnership with Talon Games). SFRPGs are not as universal as generic fantasy, which is a strength for GW's IP, but not for a company that would make sf miniatures for other game systems. Reaper isn't as big as GW, but it's been around for 20+ years. With Bones, you might as well be asking why Reaper doesn't make boardgames like CMON does, considering that yet another recent CMON KS makes $1M more than a Bones one.
Not sure what you're trying to say that I didn't say .. they have their sandbox and that's where they are comfy. As to CMON.. I mean.. I stopped playing the actual games a while back and really they're just a slightly better version of Bones IMO.. I literally just back them for cheap minis now..
Kaladrax's little cousin on his mother's side LIVES!!! (or is dead.)
Now to see if I have any money left over from Song of Ice and Fire, Cthulhu Wars, Doomtown, and probably one other KS I forgot this month...
I had no interest in another bones Kickstarter. The delays are unbearable, the shipping costs ridiculous, I don't need any more models and probably won't ever paint them.
After they deadset stole money from AU backers by charging air mail prices and then sticking our pledges on a boat, and then announced Bones 4 before the boat had even reached the country, I'm sticking Reaper in the shady and deceitful company category with Mierce.
I was excited about 3, and would have been excited about 4, until I dounf out they charged me $190 USD for $50 USD worth of sea mail shipping, and couldn't provide a cogent reason as to why they'd done it, and why they weren't giving back the difference.
In the UK I've still not received my Bones III, or a shipping notification regarding it.
BUT... zombie dragon. I'm probably in.
That's entirely your choice but I have a zombie dragon.. don't really need another.. but if I did, I would probably try to help out an existing company... or my wallet. I almost went in on B3 because of one or two models and realized they were literally all I wanted.. and ended up just buying existing models.. and saving myself time and money.
NTRabbit, call shenanigans on them. Get your credit card company involved if you have to.
As for my Bones, they had a bit of an odyssey getting into my grubby mitts. I'm in Vancouver, BC (the good one) and some of my relatives have PO boxes in Blaine, so I send stuff there from time to time to get around often-exorbitant international shipping. By the time I I finally got the shipping notice, my uncle had let his PO box expire.
I had to call the place to get it rerouted to a box one of my cousins owned, but my uncle did manage to get it and I picked it up from his place.
Quality of the casts I got is so-so. There are prominent mould lines on a lot of parts and weapon shafts are floppy, as usual.
I doubt it would work. I was charged an extra 50 usd for shipping the tiamat dragon, which sounds reasonable if you're shipping it in the box. But apparently KS backers aren't getting the box it seems.
Yeah, we don't get the fancy store display box for Not-Tiamat, just a very tightly packed cardboard box. Maybe it's to save on postage costs...
First ever Bones for me, now that I've got my big dragon and a mountain of white rubber minis, I think that it it will be the last; that postage was eye watering.
I skipped Bones 3 and if they dont manage to get a European supplier I will in all likelihood skip Bones 4 too. The shipping charges combined with the import fees stung quite bad the first two KS
Although every Bones KS seems to have getting worse and worse value-wise anyway, might have skipped it anyway.
It is mostly gravy for us in the USA but that sucks and I'm sorry to hear it! Somehow though it is never worth it to me to pledge for the whole set since when I go through and total up the retail for the parts I want it always comes out less than the base pledge no matter how crazy large it gets. Still, the BFG made my day in this one. If they put in lots of Victoria stuff I will throw money at them.
As for terrain, some backers of the cancelled CROM KS wanted Reaper to offer the terrain in Bones (or other form?). No info yet.
Some Reaperites said they'll skip on the core set as well, and just go after the add-ons. If you play only one genre of miniatures, it makes perfect sense to skip the core.
I think Reaper doing the Conan terrain as an add on would probably be a smart move. I don't know how invested they were in the CROM project, but it did put Reaper's stuff on the radar and I know there was arguably more interest in the terrain than the minis!
I've never grabbed the main pledge from a campaign, but sampled a few odds and ends in KS2 and 3. I'll likely be back for 4, and again just snagging a couple of choice items.
Sure, I could wait for retail, but even if it takes a year or more, I'll get them eventually, and this way I get to say I helped support the line in advance, even if I don't really see any benefits in terms of stretch goals and bonuses.
Which reminds me that I need to start cutting weapons off sprues and upgrade some of my Shadows of Brimstone enemies.
I need to start saving up money for Bones 4. I got my shipment of Bones 3 in, and aside from a few minor miscasts, all the figures look in good shape. If Bones 4 does like it did last time, then I may be broke again in the future. My wife and step-daughter like the idea of painting up the 100+ figures with me and getting their mini-painting skills up.
If we could have something that fits together and looks as awesome as Gore-maw again, I would be happy
I skipped the main pledge level in Bones 3 and I'm regretting it now. Not only are all the myriad minis useful for my son to paint, but I just never know what might inspire a crazy conversion.
My partner/dungeon master will be backing 4 simply because now that we have a dedicated gaming space we can have a huge pile of various minis for use in our DnD games.
I backed 3 just for the giant dragon Ma'al Drakar. It was worth it though it's more a statue than a gaming mini.
I've backed all 3 bones kickstarters. Gotten the Core set each time. Will get the core set (or 2 of them) in Bones 4.
The best thing about bones is I don't feel put upon when giving minis to my fellow players. If I start a new Pathfinder game (or other RPG) I bring my bones and let people pick something out. The cost is not a factor and it makes an enjoyable evening and makes sure that all the players in the group have a suitable mini. This has lead to some of the players who are not mini people to go and seek outr minis themselves... So kind of like a gateway drug...
They are very useful when your players do something unexpected and suddenly you need a certain mini. Go check the bones box...
I love having a ton of monsters at hand. And the price. I have 10 bugbears. That would be $80+ in metal. Same goes with Gnolls, Orcs, Hobgoblins, Ogres, goblins, Lizardmen, etc.
Also as cheap as they are during the KS, they do increase in price. The $10 Dragon is now $39. That $50 one, now $150... etc.
And while yes, floppy weapons on human size minis is sometimes an issue. I don't mind it on NPCS as much and on PCs I am likely to do a weapon swap anyway...
I will go big on Bones 4 as I am not sure how much longer they will be doing kickstarters for bones. At some point it will stop I am sure. I am gonna try to get one of everything this time as that was my regret from bones 3...
All of the above does not stop me from being annoyed at the delays of (at times) lack of communication from Reaper, but those issues will not stop me from backing again.
Sining wrote: I doubt it would work. I was charged an extra 50 usd for shipping the tiamat dragon, which sounds reasonable if you're shipping it in the box. But apparently KS backers aren't getting the box it seems.
Really? My giant five(?) headed dragon came in the retail packaging. Big box with a clear window in the front to show of the miniature.
ced1106 wrote: Reaper received some boxes of the non-Tiamat dragon, so, rather than unboxing them, they shipped them to some backers. So you got lucky!
Looks like Baba Yaga's moved to Cemetery Lane!
I think I just found the basis for a chaos warhound Titan. add some weapons and you have a Tzeentch warchicken.
adamsouza wrote: I will never understand the appeal of Babba Yagga's Hut
You don't understand the appeal of a witch's hut that runs around on giant chicken legs and is full of bizarre magical artifacts that are both blessings and curses?
How can anyone who owns any large bones with thin ankles imagine that ANYTHING on chicken legs was a good idea in bonesium? Seems like a bad idea for the medium. Past that, I always enjoy the imagery of it being an actual hut like in folk lore.. and even the title. That honestly has much more of a shack vibe going on.
I agree that it's too big and complex -- the house part -- for my image of Baba Yaga's Hut. I will likely put an actual hut on my Bones chicken legs, and use the provided one as a separate shack.
Not sure how to deal with the weak legs issue though. Bones is too springy for it to be easy to drill a hole down the middle and add brass rod, I suspect.
I think those chicken legs look plenty thick enough to hold up the shack. Bones is pretty light. Also, I have drilled and pinned bones material when doing some conversions, and it isn't difficult to drill.
I was really excited for second... swing and a miss there Reaper. The legs don't work with the building very well and there isn't anything particularly Russian about it. Oh well!
Yeah, looks like a house from one of those Michaels's Halloween ornaments on chicken legs, not the hut of a folkloric Rus witch. Unless the legs get bent in packaging (significant risk), it should hold the bones house weight fine, though.
Dungeon Crawler Miniatures had a more orthodox Baba Yaga's Hut, but it didn't fund. The Charles Addams vacation house with Chaos Titan Chicken Leg Conversion Kit and Granny Unit seems to at least have some sort of crossover potential.
I'm liking this one more than the Bloodthristing Balrog from the 2nd campaign. Did we have a fire demon in the 3rd? I don't remember. I know there was one in the 1st campaign...
What would be extra nice is if some of these ended up in the core pledge, but alas, I doubt that would happen.
Welcome to why I have yet to get in on any of the Bones Kickstarters. I don't like the material much for small figures (it's great on larger beasties) but the spastic "Hey do you like dragons? Here's some Chibi mice figures, oh and some science fiction monitors!" approach...doesn't generate any interest in me.
Always happy to see more Bones stuff showing up though.
You can improve the man-size minis a lot with a simple head swap. I like my Bones III Orcs in almost every way except the heads, but I have some spare Shieldwolf orc heads somewhere I think...
A nice NOT bloodthirster. Hopefully we will get a plague deamon, not giant sucobus etc.
This large size model is what bones excels at, the material holds detail much better, is much stiffer and the models are still affordable. Will be nice if the new campaign focus's on them instead of a few hundred more human sized minis, with bendy weapons.
After doing a bit of reading up on Starfinder, I'm beginning to wonder if Reaper will be doing anything. Maybe it'll be announced at GenCon or something.
I wasn't aware that Ninja Division was going to be doing prepainted figures and ships.
Then again, that didn't stop the Reaper metals and plastics from coexisting with the prepainted line from another company.
Or Reaper could just be cool and give us a bunch of interesting outerspace figures with no game affiliated.
I would have thought Bones was the perfect medium for a bunch of space aliens and pulp heroes. Right now, Mantic seems to be the main if not only player in the pulpy aliens game. Between Dreadball, Deadzone and Star Saga, they've put out dozens of great oddball aliens. If Mantic can do that, imagine what Reaper, with decades of experience and a stable of seasoned sculptors, could do.
From reading between the lines of stuff on the reaper boards I believe their research showed the demand wasn't there for normal retail line as opposed to the blind box D&D prepaints,
so while they might be able to get some made they probably wouldn't end up with a worthwhile retail product compared to other things they could put time and effort into
(I suspect the failure of the conan prepaints game will also feed into this view)
highlord tamburlaine wrote: I'm curious to see how Ninja Division does with this new line of prepainted figures and spaceships then they're going to have.
Could make Reaper reconsider once again.
Did you say prepainted spaceships?
Man, Reaper's letting everyone else have all the good ideas.
Barzam wrote: Hey, wasn't Reaper talking about doing a Kickstarter for their prepainted line? What ever happened with that?
Reaper said the cost to make a "stencil" to prepaint a miniature was as much as the mold. Not sure why the prefer stencil over hand-painted, although hand-painted miniatures are mostly tabletop quality.
I'll take the prepaints. (Depending on prices and final quality.). Those ships look awesome and the aliens bring me back to the book covers of yesteryear.
NTRabbit wrote: After they deadset stole money from AU backers by charging air mail prices and then sticking our pledges on a boat, and then announced Bones 4 before the boat had even reached the country, I'm sticking Reaper in the shady and deceitful company category with Mierce.
Not as bad as Mierce, but, you know. Not good, either.
Lots of my goodwill burnt there. Not that they give a feth about us.
My Bones 3 arrived this week, and my enthusiasm for 4 has dropped a bit...
I got the core set (or half of it -- my son bought the other half), Stoneskull, Graveyard, Frost Giant King & Queen, Frost Giant Warriors, and the dragon-riding lass.
Most of this was at least OK. The sizing is frequently kind of random -- stuff I expected would be pretty big looking at the previews, like the ragged constructs from Stoneskull, ended up looking small, whereas inevitably a lot of the "ordinary humans" are kind of huge, and made bigger yet by the thick integral bases that I tend to add regular bases too for consistency of base diameter.
Most of the core set was pretty ropey though, I thought. As per Bones 2, my son and I alternately picked from the bigger creatures, then did the same alternate picks from the human-sized-ish ones. Unlike with Bones 2, the process seemed frustating and unexciting, for the most part. I ended up with most of the Japanese style creatures, some of which look OK but all of which will almost certainly look poor compared to the Rising Sun minis that will deliver next year. Once we'd divvied up the big critters, we took a good look at the smaller ones and found almost none of them very appealing. The 16 lizardmen (four each of four poses) were pretty good, and I was glad to be splitting them evenly to reduce duplication a bit.
Most of the rest... eh. Melty-face syndrome was generally worse than Bones 2, not better. I had one pennanted lance (from the dragonrider) break after boiling and cooling to straighten it... and it's still not straight. Scale, as mentioned above, was kind of all over the place but mostly on the big side. Too many "wacky" miniatures that would probably never get used. Too many with odd weapon combos or odd poses. These just weren't as exciting or useful, overall, as Bones 2.
Still, the graveyard expansion scenery is very nice overall. And the giants are pretty good. Though Queen Giant just looks like a tall human, she will probably make an OK statue for that reason. I'm just kind of meh about it overall.
Every so often Reaper does a model I never knew I needed.
Now the dwarf mage on a battle pony is no Leprechaun on an owl, but yeah, I can see myself buying him. Then rolling up a new D&D character just to use him.
I intend to use this figure as a dwarf church cardinal in a 17th Century Pathfinder game - who is a wizard, not a cleric, thank you very much. (One of the bones of contention in the setting is the church's willingness to grant wizards indulgences to practice magic. The orthodox faith does not even bother with indulgences - magic is a gift from God - but the protestant faiths view magic as a sin.)
A nice enough guy, if I can keep from imitating the voice of Guido Sarducci from Saturday Night Live....
Balor has already been done in Bones. I've got one to the left of me right now waiting to be painted, though this guy looks awfully similar and it could just be an embiggening.
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NTRabbit wrote: After they deadset stole money from AU backers by charging air mail prices and then sticking our pledges on a boat, and then announced Bones 4 before the boat had even reached the country, I'm sticking Reaper in the shady and deceitful company category with Mierce.
Not as bad as Mierce, but, you know. Not good, either.
Lots of my goodwill burnt there. Not that they give a feth about us.
I've asked in the KS comments, I've asked on facebook, I've asked in email, they flat out refuse to respond. No goodwill left at all for a company that wants to behave this badly.
METAL 
add some weapons and you have a Tzeentch warchicken.
