I'm really interested in what the bracken looks like
(not so much the skulls, there are enough of those around in metal or resin for them to grab me unless they're really cheap, or have a decent mix of species?)
Honestly, there is a distinctive lack of chocolate cake basing materials in the market. GW could clean up if they released that instead of just more skulls.
340 skulls :O I wonder, what's the price...If it's anywhere 15 euros AND THEM SKULLS ACTUALLY LOOK REALISTIC/GOOD - greenstuffworld and secretweapon can throw away their molds
As parts of my Adeptus Mechanicus and Genestealer Cult are mining skulls (I mean... it's an important resource in the Imperium) such a plastic sprue would come in handy.
Dryaktylus wrote: As parts of my Adeptus Mechanicus and Genestealer Cult are mining skulls (I mean... it's an important resource in the Imperium) such a plastic sprue would come in handy.
Galas wrote: If they add Orc, Tau, Eldar and Tyranid skulls... that could be lovely.
Some of the base kits already come with an assortment of different race skulls. I'd say in a large pack like this, the odds are high that they'll have a variety
Galas wrote: If they add Orc, Tau, Eldar and Tyranid skulls... that could be lovely.
Some of the base kits already come with an assortment of different race skulls. I'd say in a large pack like this, the odds are high that they'll have a variety
Hopefully it will have a little more like the occasional rib cage, etc.
I think this might be one time when GW's offering beats the competition in price. Secret Weapon already do a Sack 'o Skulls but at $15us for 50, you'd need 7 sets for $105us to match that 340 skulls.
-Loki- wrote: I think this might be one time when GW's offering beats the competition in price. Secret Weapon already do a Sack 'o Skulls but at $15us for 50, you'd need 7 sets for $105us to match that 340 skulls.
They did too with their bases. 25€ for 60 32mm bases (That ok, aren't ultra detailed resin bases but are very nice for the price).
Buddy and me have been playing Frostgrave. In a month or two, they're coming out with a tropical sequel-ish game set in island environments. We'd been talking about the price of aquarium plants and how they were expensive and kind of screwy visually for a lot of things.
Wondering how this might work for scenery in a jungle. Too much surface area to cover for a reasonable price?
Kudos to GW, this is exactly the kind of thing they should be using their manufacturing advantages to produce. Even at GW prices they can easily provide stuff at better value than resin, not to mention in quantities and at a level of consistency smaller outfits can't match.
I only hope they don't end up as Direct Only While Stocks Last never to be seen again.
The skull set certainly looks amazing, l'll post a pic in a sec from the WD, there seems to be a load of different ones.
The Slaughterpriest shown is standing on a big Tyranid? skull which wouldn't make sense since its AoS so maybe its a big beast, surrounded by a mound of different skulls including horned and what is either an ogor or orruk skull.
unmercifulconker wrote: The skull set certainly looks amazing, l'll post a pic in a sec from the WD, there seems to be a load of different ones.
The Slaughterpriest shown is standing on a big Tyranid? skull which wouldn't make sense since its AoS so maybe its a big beast, surrounded by a mound of different skulls including horned and what is either an ogor or orruk skull.
unmercifulconker wrote: The skull set certainly looks amazing, l'll post a pic in a sec from the WD, there seems to be a load of different ones.
The Slaughterpriest shown is standing on a big Tyranid? skull which wouldn't make sense since its AoS so maybe its a big beast, surrounded by a mound of different skulls including horned and what is either an ogor or orruk skull.
GW usually shows Tyranid skulls retaining their carapace armor, so I don't see anything overtly Tyranid in the Slaughterpriest pic.
I don't think Daemons even have bones, they are pure energy, but, they look pretty cool so I don't mind.
Can be that giant skull a little "spoiler" of a future miniature?
Galas wrote: I don't think Daemons even have bones, they are pure energy, but, they look pretty cool so I don't mind.
Can be that giant skull a little "spoiler" of a future miniature?
Dryaktylus wrote: As parts of my Adeptus Mechanicus and Genestealer Cult are mining skulls (I mean... it's an important resource in the Imperium) such a plastic sprue would come in handy.
What a fantastic army idea. Love it!
Thanks. I guess it started with an old post from unheilig on Warseer (The realm of battle board revealed the true secret... the warhammer world has a geological layer of skulls. Skulls are a natural and renewable resource there.). First I laughed but then I looked at the conveyor belt of my new Hades (count-as Mechanicus back then) and... put skulls on it. And later my second army returned... as a Mining Corporation. So they became competitors in this profit-yielding business. Not the whole armies have this theme and sure, it's sort of ludicrous. But hey, it's 40k.
Tannhauser42 wrote: There is one thing I would not look forward to with all these little skulls: cleaning all the mold lines on such fiddly little bits.
They're getting better...the Reivers had very little in the way of mold lines on the foregrips of the Boltcarbines.
On Daemon skulls - they're all sorts of awesome for daemon world terrain. And maybe daemons that possess mortal hosts have skulls, while daemons manifesting directly from the warp might not. Or, you know, daemons... Maybe there are no hard-and-fast rules
Tannhauser42 wrote: There is one thing I would not look forward to with all these little skulls: cleaning all the mold lines on such fiddly little bits.
They're getting better...the Reivers had very little in the way of mold lines on the foregrips of the Boltcarbines.
It's always just depended on the specific mould. I've had Tactical Marines that were nearly flawless, and others (presumably from a different , not-as-well-alligned mould) that had massive slippage.
The center skull might be for some new drewcari/dark eldar beast. Or a shadow elf monster since GW likes to interchange ascetics from AoS and 40k together.
unmercifulconker wrote: The skull set certainly looks amazing, l'll post a pic in a sec from the WD, there seems to be a load of different ones.
The Slaughterpriest shown is standing on a big Tyranid? skull which wouldn't make sense since its AoS so maybe its a big beast, surrounded by a mound of different skulls including horned and what is either an ogor or orruk skull.
It's funny that you think AOS won't get somehow made compatible with 40K...
And it's also telling that the AOS aesthetic is to the point that Tyranid skulls don't look out of place.
Gamgee wrote: Oh my god I love the skull ones. Not so fond of the vines right now as I can't see any of my themes needing them.
Are there any nids skulls there?
In the inferior left corner you can see a Tyranid head, with a little... thing in the forehead. Theres others with that thing that I assume are Tyranids.
I noticed the Kroot skull too. I hope some of these skulls lead to new xenos later down the line of the living variety, but that's probably getting my hopes up too much.
From what I understand Daemons can actually manifest as flesh and bone in realspace, but dematerealise upon "death", so in any case I don't think there would be remains.
Kinda like with Necrons phasing out, except there are ways to prevent that...
I noticed the Kroot skull too. I hope some of these skulls lead to new xenos later down the line of the living variety, but that's probably getting my hopes up too much.
Kroot skull is not new. It can be found in Dark Eldar Raider trophy rack. Daemon skulls are not new either, both Bloodletter and Plaguebearer skulls can be found in Ironjawz kits (with different horn configurations). Giant Bat skull is from Morghast Harbringers. The large skulls appear to be new though.
I am a sucker for skulls and anything basing related. I am going to buy these in ridiculous quantities.
Gamgee wrote: Oh my god I love the skull ones. Not so fond of the vines right now as I can't see any of my themes needing them.
Are there any nids skulls there?
In the inferior left corner you can see a Tyranid head, with a little... thing in the forehead. Theres others with that thing that I assume are Tyranids.
Yeah there are multiple genestealer skulls in there.
Same bro. Was always too expensive before. I was planning to use sprue and cover with a layer of Skulls but with 340 to work with, it can be entirely skulls.
If they were summoned into or possessed a mortal host a Demon could twist the body into a more demonic form. When the Demon is "killed" it would then leave behind a corpse.
I'm going to assume that daemons which manifest by possessing a host then mangling the host's body into their own shape (or something similar, like Nurgle's Rot victims becoming Plaguebearers) have an actual skeleton, while ones that manifest directly from the warp just dissolve into ectoplasm.
AndrewGPaul wrote: I'm going to assume that daemons which manifest by possessing a host then mangling the host's body into their own shape (or something similar, like Nurgle's Rot victims becoming Plaguebearers) have an actual skeleton, while ones that manifest directly from the warp just dissolve into ectoplasm.
I'm gonna assume the rules are kinda confused and chaotic! eh, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh?
According to the WD photo on the first page, the vines and the bracken are flexible.
So the skulls will be normal plastic. Well, I guess the real question is whether that's in fact true, or if it's Chinese plastic like those basing kits. The skulls on those are hardly as crisp as the ones in the Skeleton Warrior box. But so far we have no indication (that I'm aware of anyway) that the new skulls will be anything but a regular plastic kit.
Geifer wrote: According to the WD photo on the first page, the vines and the bracken are flexible.
So the skulls will be normal plastic. Well, I guess the real question is whether that's in fact true, or if it's Chinese plastic like those basing kits. The skulls on those are hardly as crisp as the ones in the Skeleton Warrior box. But so far we have no indication (that I'm aware of anyway) that the new skulls will be anything but a regular plastic kit.
The "Chinese plastic" is still polystyrene like the miniature kits, though.
Geifer wrote: According to the WD photo on the first page, the vines and the bracken are flexible.
So the skulls will be normal plastic. Well, I guess the real question is whether that's in fact true, or if it's Chinese plastic like those basing kits. The skulls on those are hardly as crisp as the ones in the Skeleton Warrior box. But so far we have no indication (that I'm aware of anyway) that the new skulls will be anything but a regular plastic kit.
The "Chinese plastic" is still polystyrene like the miniature kits, though.
Yeah,
Any lack of detail is down to either the master or the mold, not the material.
Geifer wrote: According to the WD photo on the first page, the vines and the bracken are flexible.
So the skulls will be normal plastic. Well, I guess the real question is whether that's in fact true, or if it's Chinese plastic like those basing kits. The skulls on those are hardly as crisp as the ones in the Skeleton Warrior box. But so far we have no indication (that I'm aware of anyway) that the new skulls will be anything but a regular plastic kit.
The "Chinese plastic" is still polystyrene like the miniature kits, though.
Yeah, I know. I'm not concerned about the material. Quality, on the other hand...
And it was just a thought. As I said, so far we have no indication that it'll be anything but the usual GW plastic we know and love.
Geifer wrote: According to the WD photo on the first page, the vines and the bracken are flexible.
So the skulls will be normal plastic. Well, I guess the real question is whether that's in fact true, or if it's Chinese plastic like those basing kits. The skulls on those are hardly as crisp as the ones in the Skeleton Warrior box. But so far we have no indication (that I'm aware of anyway) that the new skulls will be anything but a regular plastic kit.
The "Chinese plastic" is still polystyrene like the miniature kits, though.
Yeah,
Any lack of detail is down to either the master or the mold, not the material.
The master of the skulls I spoke of is the same CAD file as the one that makes crisp skulls in the skeleton box.
I assume a less precise, outsourced mold for bases and accessories is simply cheaper for GW.
Geifer wrote: According to the WD photo on the first page, the vines and the bracken are flexible.
So the skulls will be normal plastic. Well, I guess the real question is whether that's in fact true, or if it's Chinese plastic like those basing kits. The skulls on those are hardly as crisp as the ones in the Skeleton Warrior box. But so far we have no indication (that I'm aware of anyway) that the new skulls will be anything but a regular plastic kit.
The "Chinese plastic" is still polystyrene like the miniature kits, though.
Yeah,
Any lack of detail is down to either the master or the mold, not the material.
I'm pretty sure there are different types of HIPS. GW stuff is a lot softer than the brittle plastic in most scale model kits and the one they use for terrain seems to be even softer. I think there's a trade off somewhere between ability to hold sharp detail and durability. Or possibly how quickly it can be ejected from the mould or something.
At 15 quid, and assuming they are made and remain available from discounters, I can see myself buying a hideous amount of these.
While some folk seem put off by the "sci-fi" nature of the scatter plants, that's exactly why they appeal to me - I've wanted to do a Deathworld Jungle board ever since the 3rd Edition Catchans supplement, but I could never find stuff suitable for use as the ground-level fern-style plants to cover the stands for the bigger plants. There are vast amounts of options for more natural undergrowth out there, not so much wierd face-eating-tree style stuff.
Geifer wrote: According to the WD photo on the first page, the vines and the bracken are flexible.
So the skulls will be normal plastic. Well, I guess the real question is whether that's in fact true, or if it's Chinese plastic like those basing kits. The skulls on those are hardly as crisp as the ones in the Skeleton Warrior box. But so far we have no indication (that I'm aware of anyway) that the new skulls will be anything but a regular plastic kit.
The "Chinese plastic" is still polystyrene like the miniature kits, though.
Yeah,
Any lack of detail is down to either the master or the mold, not the material.
I'm pretty sure there are different types of HIPS. GW stuff is a lot softer than the brittle plastic in most scale model kits and the one they use for terrain seems to be even softer. I think there's a trade off somewhere between ability to hold sharp detail and durability. Or possibly how quickly it can be ejected from the mould or something.
It's all the same material, as far as I'm aware, but there are different densities.
I've never noticed a difference in density between kits in recent years, though I have some older plastic kits (pre-2005 maybe) that are in a lighter grey that feel softer than the current plastic.
Higher density obviously is better for finer detail, and is more durable in larger pieces, but more brittle with smaller pieces. If, as far as I can tell, the density of Chinese and UK-produced kits is effectively identical then the difference in detail is down to poor mastering or mold degradation, not the plastic itself.
DaveC wrote: All 3 sets cost US$25/GBP£15/€20 each (just over 7 cent a skull )
That's almost as cheap as Khorne gets them wholesale!
I would have preferred if there was a bit more variety on the vegetation sprues, but maybe they decided there were enough "realistic" plants available already.
IMOGW should use their plasti-fu to make more handy generic filler kits like these. It's always been a shame that they are 'the best' miniatures company out there, but there's always been a relatively sparse amount of terrain to set their minis on. If they would make slightly cheaper terrain kits, everyone would make amazing tables and that would probably pull more people into the hobby.
God that skull pack is such great deal.
For the same price as a Secret Weapon Pile O Skullz (including shipping) would cost me (or less at a discount), the GW skull pack has more than 4x as many human skulls and a bunch of gw-specific race skulls.
Yeah definitely going to pick one up. I don't see myself ever need 2, but definitely 1.
I can't find the original thread about the Deathworld terrain so I'll add this here, the Deathworld terrain is getting released as individual kits pre orders this week.
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load of different ones.
