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Post by: MVBrandt
This space to be updated soon with more information, but the NOVA Open is returning in 2018 for its 9th consecutive year.
The room block will go out in today's newsletter, and will be reposted here. Last year we sold the hotel out very quickly, so don't miss out this year.
As usual, the event will run on Labor Day Weekend, from Wednesday 8/29 through Sunday 9/2.
REGISTRATION OPENS ONE MONTH LATER THAN LAST YEAR, ON MARCH 1ST AT 8PM US EST
Stay tuned to novaopen.com for more info, to this thread, and e-mail customerservice@novaopen.com to sign up for our newsletter.
Some key notes ...
1. The Charity Foundation Bar upgraded to the Rooftop Restaurant with views of all of DC and National Airport for the entire event this year, not just Sat and Sun. We'll be adding open mic, comedy, and other activities throughout the weekend to take advantage of the much larger space.
2. Fantasy Flight Game's Star Wars National Championships are returning to NOVA Open for X-Wing, Destiny, Armada, IA, and more. We are also adding a heavy dose of Legion! These events sold out in a matter of hours to days last year.
3. Games Workshop & Forge World will be returning in force.
More info to come!
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Post by: Stevefamine
I went to the first one, and this is the second one I'll be attending. I'm hype
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Post by: MVBrandt
Reminders ...
We've only sent the hotel reg link through newsletter and registration is still nearly a month away, but the hotel is well beyond half sold out anyway.
Make sure you email customerservice@novaopen.com to sign up for the newsletter if you haven't yet. Substantial information will be included in the February 15 newsletter, though we'll push it simultaneously to the website.
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Post by: MVBrandt
Registration opens this Thursday at 8PM US EST.
This year looks to once again be extraordinary, with some pretty incredible special guests, new features and expansions on what's going on each day (nightly entertainment in the charity lounge, for instance), and perhaps our best schedule yet.
Information is largely complete and available, including event primers, at both novaopen.com and novaopenstore.com
We've also once again revised and improved upon our trendsetting mission pack for the 40K GT. As always, we thrive on feedback, so take a look and let us know how it plays out for you!
Only the first 500 registrants get swag bags, the hotel is quite close to capacity again, and many events will sell out on Thursday night ... Be ready!
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
Less than 5 hours until the best event can be signed up for!
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Post by: MVBrandt
Looks like tons of stuff is selling out fast, including the 40K GT at a crazy faster pace than ever before.
Over 800 people registered in the first 10 minutes, which is ... well,magnitudes faster than ever before.
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
Weren't there "only" like 1200 attendants in 2016? Crazy.
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Post by: Audustum
8th brought a lot of people back/in I believe. Now they want to find tournaments to go to!
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Post by: MVBrandt
Between the return of GW in a big way and the fact NOVA hosts the National US Champs for all the Star Wars / FFG games, plus the steady growth of nearly every other event, yeah ... we hit 2k last year and are likely to eclipse that by a wide margin this year.
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Post by: necron99
I was on at exactly 8pm last night so I could, hopefully, snag a SuperNOVA . I selected it and tried to checkout but was told I had to login first…no guest checkout…sigh.
So I login re-add the SuperNOVA which at this point the site said there were 69 left. I immediately began the checkout process by selecting my shirt size, my preferred army and bag option. Click on Next to, I assume, fill in my credit card info. And there I sat for five minutes. I figured no big deal as I had my purchase safely tucked away in my cart and I’m sure the site was inundated so I didn’t mind waiting.
After 5 mins or so of watching chrome wait for the next page it updated with “This item is no longer available”. WTF!? It was in my cart! I was purchasing it less than 10 minutes after I selected it. Come on NOVA you guys are running with the big boys now time to use shopping cart technology that was written this century. Needless to say I was/am extremely upset as I did EVERYTHING right. It was in my CART for God’s sake. What more could I have done to secure my purchase people?!
I would strongly suggest you all spend the next 8 months reviewing your website – it’s in dire need of a back-end upgrade. You can mitigate a lot of the slowness you’re seeing by upgrading to a cloud based technology and again you really need to reevaluate your choice of shopping cart technology. I am so bummed…
But I will say this is a great event and I will definitely be there one way or another...just had a lousy experience last night...needless to say I cried myself to sleep :(
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Post by: Dr_Keenbean
 necron99 wrote:I was on at exactly 8pm last night so I could, hopefully, snag a SuperNOVA . I selected it and tried to checkout but was told I had to login first…no guest checkout…sigh.
So I login re-add the SuperNOVA which at this point the site said there were 69 left. I immediately began the checkout process by selecting my shirt size, my preferred army and bag option. Click on Next to, I assume, fill in my credit card info. And there I sat for five minutes. I figured no big deal as I had my purchase safely tucked away in my cart and I’m sure the site was inundated so I didn’t mind waiting.
After 5 mins or so of watching chrome wait for the next page it updated with “This item is no longer available”. WTF!? It was in my cart! I was purchasing it less than 10 minutes after I selected it. Come on NOVA you guys are running with the big boys now time to use shopping cart technology that was written this century. Needless to say I was/am extremely upset as I did EVERYTHING right. It was in my CART for God’s sake. What more could I have done to secure my purchase people?!
I would strongly suggest you all spend the next 8 months reviewing your website – it’s in dire need of a back-end upgrade. You can mitigate a lot of the slowness you’re seeing by upgrading to a cloud based technology and again you really need to reevaluate your choice of shopping cart technology. I am so bummed…
But I will say this is a great event and I will definitely be there one way pr another...just had a lousy experience last night...needless to say I cried myself to sleep :(
Those bags sell out in literal seconds. You need to have all your ducks in a row before the clock strikes 8 to even have a chance: already signed in to the NOVA store, 2 factor authentication turned off for paypal, etc. This is my 4th year getting one and the last few years have been so stressful on registration day that I think next year I'm going to pass (on the bag, not the convention). It takes what should be a fun experience and makes it miserable. The pre-sale for previous year's SuperNOVAs this year was a nice touch, though, and I really appreciate that it was done.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Ticketmaster-like system when once the item is in your cart you have a hold on it for X minutes while you complete your purchase and if you take longer, it goes back into the pool. Having literal seconds to make a purchase that involves filling out a form is not the best.
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Post by: necron99
I figured just sitting there with my finger on the button to add it to my cart would be sufficient. No guest check-out is uncool. Making it a race to see who can get to the submit your money the fastest is also very uncool. Both of these issues are fixable and I would strongly urge the tech people behind NOVA to look into this as it leads to a very bad experience otherwise and no one wants that.
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Post by: Reecius
Congratz on what sounds like a huge reg opening, guys!
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Post by: MVBrandt
It was good, thanks! Over a thousand in the first day is way faster.
For those who normally sign up for the GT later on, please note it's nearly half sold out already.
The 40k narrative events, despite hundreds of slots, are pretty much sold out already.
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Post by: MVBrandt
And another update ..
Other than a couple of Nightfight ala carte slots, the 40K Narrative is sold out.
40K Trios Team Tournament is sold out.
40K GT is half sold out and literally 400% last year's pace (Which led to an eventual sellout).
30K events are also all sold out or selling out.
Ya'll will want to sign up
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Post by: Chancetragedy
Question about the 40k champs tertiary. It says that when your unit captures an objective they immediately become visible and don’t benefit from character. If a unit requires blocked line of sight for cover purposes IE a tank or monster. Do they still benefit from cover for being obscured or are they now completely visible?
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Post by: MVBrandt
Still benefit from cover.
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Post by: MVBrandt
Less than 100 tickets remain for the Warhammer 40,000 Grand Tournament, which is by months a breakneck pace.
The hotel is fully booked but we are working on blocks at the hotels across the street.
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Post by: MVBrandt
Only 80 tickets left in the 40k GT, literally months ahead of pace. New room blocks in adjoining hotels will go out in today's newsletter.
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Post by: godswildcard
Went ahead and registered for the Dark Age Beginner's Tournament and booked my room. Going to try and get to some seminars and a few small games as well. Looking forward to attending!
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Post by: MVBrandt
The 40K GT is now down to only 50 of 256 tickets remaining, which normally takes until July or so. Please register ASAP if you plan to attend, and make sure you join the wait list if you miss out.
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Post by: zedsdead
congrats Mike
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Post by: Audustum
So, since GW likes to leave rules in beta for a long time from what we've seen so far, the question becomes: is NOVA going to use our new beta rules?
I guess while I'm bothering you: with no Imperial Armour release in sight, can Custodes players use the beta rules for their new units too?
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Post by: MVBrandt
Audustum wrote:So, since GW likes to leave rules in beta for a long time from what we've seen so far, the question becomes: is NOVA going to use our new beta rules?
I guess while I'm bothering you: with no Imperial Armour release in sight, can Custodes players use the beta rules for their new units too?
We will be using the beta rules.
Which Custodes beta rules in particular are you referring to?
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Post by: Audustum
MVBrandt wrote:Audustum wrote:So, since GW likes to leave rules in beta for a long time from what we've seen so far, the question becomes: is NOVA going to use our new beta rules?
I guess while I'm bothering you: with no Imperial Armour release in sight, can Custodes players use the beta rules for their new units too?
We will be using the beta rules.
Which Custodes beta rules in particular are you referring to?
Forgeworld published beta rules for using the Caladius Grav-Tank, Coronus Grav-Carrier, Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought and the Contemptor-Exemplar Dreadnought in 8th Edition.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/13/adeptus-custodes-forge-world-beta-rules-and-codex-faqgw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-2/
They won't get real rules until an Imperial Armor comes out for Custodes as I understand it and there's no rumors of one of those being anytime in the foreseeable future.
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Post by: MVBrandt
Audustum wrote:MVBrandt wrote:Audustum wrote:So, since GW likes to leave rules in beta for a long time from what we've seen so far, the question becomes: is NOVA going to use our new beta rules?
I guess while I'm bothering you: with no Imperial Armour release in sight, can Custodes players use the beta rules for their new units too?
We will be using the beta rules.
Which Custodes beta rules in particular are you referring to?
Forgeworld published beta rules for using the Caladius Grav-Tank, Coronus Grav-Carrier, Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought and the Contemptor-Exemplar Dreadnought in 8th Edition.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/13/adeptus-custodes-forge-world-beta-rules-and-codex-faqgw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-2/
They won't get real rules until an Imperial Armor comes out for Custodes as I understand it and there's no rumors of one of those being anytime in the foreseeable future.
I'll discuss it with our rules team and get back to you.
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Post by: Audustum
MVBrandt wrote:Audustum wrote:MVBrandt wrote:Audustum wrote:So, since GW likes to leave rules in beta for a long time from what we've seen so far, the question becomes: is NOVA going to use our new beta rules?
I guess while I'm bothering you: with no Imperial Armour release in sight, can Custodes players use the beta rules for their new units too?
We will be using the beta rules.
Which Custodes beta rules in particular are you referring to?
Forgeworld published beta rules for using the Caladius Grav-Tank, Coronus Grav-Carrier, Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought and the Contemptor-Exemplar Dreadnought in 8th Edition.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/13/adeptus-custodes-forge-world-beta-rules-and-codex-faqgw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-2/
They won't get real rules until an Imperial Armor comes out for Custodes as I understand it and there's no rumors of one of those being anytime in the foreseeable future.
I'll discuss it with our rules team and get back to you.
Thank you!
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Post by: Chancetragedy
Question about the relic mission in the 40K champs. If you take turn by turn you can only score 15 pts instead of the 18. You score a max of 3 per turn for 5 turns. Is that right?
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Post by: MVBrandt
Chancetragedy wrote:Question about the relic mission in the 40K champs. If you take turn by turn you can only score 15 pts instead of the 18. You score a max of 3 per turn for 5 turns. Is that right?
Good catch, that should be up to six a turn!
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Post by: MVBrandt
Only 30 tickets left in the 40K GT folks, which is over a hundred faster than last year's eventual sell-out pace.
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As of now, it's very unlikely we'll use these beta rules.
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Post by: Primark G
Please don’t use beta rules for units Mike.
When does the super swag bag go on sale?
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Post by: Audustum
Sad news to hear, but thanks for getting back to us!
And ignore Primark, he's just hoping all Custodes are pure bike spam so wants to cut down on the competition. 
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Post by: MVBrandt
 Primark G wrote:Please don’t use beta rules for units Mike.
When does the super swag bag go on sale?
The Super Swag Bag and everything else went on sale on March 1 and lasted quite literally 4 seconds.
We are down to 14 x 40K GT tickets, and much of the rest of the con is sold out, nearing 2000 attendees already, which was last year's final total.
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Post by: orkswubwub
Can someone explain how deployment is chosen? I was reviewing the primer and it mentions 3 types of deployment on average per mission. The mission is decided for each round by the TO? Then when rolling for deployment the person who wins the roll picks both the map type and the side from the available choices?
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Post by: MVBrandt
The final packet will fix deployment. We are also releasing a revised mission packet that will do so in just a couple days.
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Post by: Hulksmash
Well I signed up for AoS. It was going to be a rough decision but 40k selling out so quick made it easy 
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Post by: Khalan
What are the odds of the 40k Waitlist shrinking? Are they're a lot of drops usually? Would it be worth it to just show up?
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Post by: MVBrandt
A) Are you on the wait list?
B) Yes, it's probably worth it to show up
Traditionally, there will be people who will drop over the next 2.5 months due to various reasons and things coming up in life, and the wait list will get processed through. Additionally, not everyone ON the wait list will show up hoping for a spot, and there's usually an attrition of around 10-15 players most years who simply no-show b/c they can't come but just didn't bother or consider dropping their registration or letting us know.
Right now, the wait list is around 60 players, which I think probably has a decent chance of getting through a fair bit of it in "practice" if you show up, simply b/c of the aforementioned variables.
But that's obviously no guarantee
Personally, I'd really like as many wait listers as possible to show up, as I'd love to fire at precisely 256 - the format works really well every year, but it hits a point of absolute karma at a proper # ratio to the round total, and it would be really special to hit it.
If by some chance you are unable to get in, there's also a million things to do both 40K related and in general, ranging from comedians and live music in the charity lounge, to jumping in as a ringer or judge when needed, to playing in narrative and recon squads (and if it's out in time, kill teams) events, to shadespire and necromunda, etc. None of which may be up your alley OVER the GT, but the point is there are things to get into and enjoy regardless.
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FINALLY - THE 40KGT PRIMER HAS BEEN HEAVILY UPDATED. CHECK IT OUT.
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Post by: Chancetragedy
Question about the website and wait lists. Will the website automatically update your position on the list if someone in front of you gets a ticket? Or will we stay at the position we are and just have to hope for the best?
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Post by: MVBrandt
Automatically update
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Post by: Regis Terzieff-Godefroy
Mike - thanks for your work on the event, I always have a blast at the GT!
I do have questions about some of the updates to the primer. Specifically the Tailored Ops and the new clause "You may not earn more than one point for destroying any one unit. If such a unit would award points to multiple Ops, you must decide which it scores at the time it is destroyed." I understand the reasoning for this, but it may cause confusion.
For example, how does 'Cull the Hordes' interact with other secondaries like 'Marked for Death'? If I destroy 10 models, and then destroy another 10-man unit that I've Marked for Death, do I get MfD and CtH? What if the order was reversed? The wording of the rules might suggest that in the first case I could only score 1 point, whereas in the second case I would score 2 points.
There would be similar issues with a lot of the Tailored Ops that depend on killing units/models like Moment of Bloodshed, Headhunter, and Old School to name a few where the order in which people kill units could impact their score.
I appreciate any clarification on this, and I'm otherwise liking the new changes!
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Post by: MVBrandt
We're working to clarify that now, so good catches.
The long and short is that all of the Tac Ops that are achieved by killing a specific unit can't be stacked, and our clarifications will make that read correctly.
So, Moment of Bloodshed and Cull the Hordes are unaffected.
But if you Mark a 10-Wound Warlord for Death and select Old School and Big Game Hunter, you cannot score all 3 when you kill the Warlord. You'd only be able to score one of them (thus it wouldn't necessarily be a very good choice, since you'd automatically miss out on 2 of 3 points you committed to the choice).
More realistic scenario is your opponent has 5 Troops and you Mark 4 of them for Death while selecting Strike the Rank and File. If you kill one of the Marked troops, you have to decide then and there whether you are scoring the point for Strike or Marked. You can't score 2 points for the kill.
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Post by: Peregrine
Will the 40k narrative kill team events continue to use their modified 40k rules even if the new kill team game is released? Important question before I commit to buying an army.
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Post by: MVBrandt
If KT is out in time, they'll go KT. The game is frankly amazing and impossible not to pivot to.
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Post by: Peregrine
MVBrandt wrote:If KT is out in time, they'll go KT. The game is frankly amazing and impossible not to pivot to.
How is "in time" defined? And how do you know it's amazing? Did I miss a rules preview? My main concern is the long lead time on getting my models bought and painted, if the army construction rules for the new KT are changing that's going to be a big problem without a month (or more) of preparation time.
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Post by: MVBrandt
I think it likely that if Kill Teams releases before July ends, we'll adopt it.
Otherwise not only would attendees not have time to adjust, we wouldn't have time to digest the rules among the team, calibrate the missions (if they work) for organized play, etc.
And I say it's awesome because I'm a tester. It's super awesome and super accessible.
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Post by: Peregrine
MVBrandt wrote:I think it likely that if Kill Teams releases before July ends, we'll adopt it.
Otherwise not only would attendees not have time to adjust, we wouldn't have time to digest the rules among the team, calibrate the missions (if they work) for organized play, etc.
Thanks for the clarification.
And I say it's awesome because I'm a tester. It's super awesome and super accessible.
Got it, so non-public information but reliable. Can you say anything about the army construction rules? The current document specifies a 200 point army chosen by the normal rules (other than one under-strength unit). Do the new rules use the same 40k codices and point costs or an entirely different "codex" specifically for kill team? Will an army that is legal under the current event rules continue to be legal in the new game, even if it isn't optimal for winning? Will the differences be small enough to only change a model or two? Or should we expect major changes to the point that it isn't worth committing to a set of models until the rules for the event are chosen and final? And do you know if/how FW rules (like DKoK) will be supported?
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I can, somewhat understandably, say nothing. Lol.
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Update - we may simply, if it is out in time, run standalone KT events and leave Recon Squads as is. We'll keep folks posted on this front as we get info, but unfortunately we're unlikely to know about the release date any sooner than the rest of the community.
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Post by: MVBrandt
The 40K GT Wait List is starting to move along. Make sure you've added yourself to it by logging into the store with an account and clicking "add to wait list" on the 40K GT entry if you want to retain a shot at getting in.
The primer is now super final.
We'll definitely be holding KT events at NOVA this year.
It's getting pretty exciting over at NOVA HQ! 58 days
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Post by: MVBrandt
AGE OF SIGMAR Update -
Only 8 spots remain in the GT (of 100)
Only 3 spots remain in Doubles
Only 6 spots remain in the grand narrative prologue, and the rest of the narrative is sold out
Only 3 spots remain in kidshammer
Only 12 Tix remain in the Shadespire Grand Clash
Don't miss out!
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Post by: Hulksmash
Looking forward to a 100+ AoS person tournament
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Post by: MVBrandt
Age of Sigmar is now sold out, though make sure you wait list if interested, as we're working to add a few more slots to it.
Kill Team Pods went up for sale yesterday, with 4 x 8-player pods every full day of the con (Thurs/Fri/Sat/Sun) and a championship round for winners from previous days on Sunday. Despite the rules not being out, we've already sold over 40% of the total tickets available, so move on those fast.
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Post by: Khalan
MVBrandt wrote:Age of Sigmar is now sold out, though make sure you wait list if interested, as we're working to add a few more slots to it.
Kill Team Pods went up for sale yesterday, with 4 x 8-player pods every full day of the con (Thurs/Fri/Sat/Sun) and a championship round for winners from previous days on Sunday. Despite the rules not being out, we've already sold over 40% of the total tickets available, so move on those fast.
What are the odds of getting into 40k Competitive if you in the mid 20's of the wait list? Does it drop a lot as we get closer? How many no shows do you usually have?
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Post by: MVBrandt
The odds are probably very good. Usually we have ten to twenty people who can't attend but don't bother to tell us or drop their tickets, and not everyone on the wait list will show up. I wouldn't abandon that spot in your shoes.
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Post by: Khalan
Any resources or place to look with people willing/able to share rooms? I am traveling from Canada and hoping to meet some fellow gamers!
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Post by: MVBrandt
Khalan wrote:Any resources or place to look with people willing/able to share rooms? I am traveling from Canada and hoping to meet some fellow gamers!
This is probably as good a place as any. You could also try the NOVA Facebook page. If I hear of anyone looking, I'll also let them know you asked here.
Also, of 112 Kill Team Tourney tickets available, only 49 remain.
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There are now fewer than 30 Kill Team tickets remaining.
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There are now only 18 spots left out of 112 in the Kill Team Tournaments.
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Post by: Hulksmash
How do you get on the wait list for the kill teams? I'd be looking for Friday pods
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Post by: MVBrandt
Once you actually log in, there'll be a wait list button with any sold out event.
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Post by: Hulksmash
Gotcha, wasn't showing up on my phone yesterday when I checked but it works on the laptop so I'm added. Thanks
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Post by: MVBrandt
If you don't get in I totally wanna hiijack you for Friday morning 
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Post by: Hulksmash
Lol, you can do that. I'm open friday since I'm doing aos this year. But I'll be coming in with andrew to hangout
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40K GT Attendees get something special ...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/siza7uDVgyr3kSh38
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Post by: Das_Ubermike
I understand that we can transfer a ticket to an event rather than receiving a refund, and since I'm unlikely to finish my army on time to participate, I would rather my ticket not go to waste. If anyone is interested in attending the 40K GT, PM me and I'll see about getting my ticket transferred over to you.
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Post by: Byte
So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC? Even as a non-partcipant I'm getting spammed to donate.
A lot of us know most of the charitable contributions come from the silent auctions and vendors fees.
Why should I contribute? Having been solicited, that makes me a potential stake holder. Sell it.
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Post by: zedsdead
 Byte wrote:So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?
So you start off your sentence with this line and you expect a friendly, respectful response ?!
Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ? or are you trying to bait some sort online discussion ? because frankly it appears this is your goal.
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Post by: MVBrandt
 zedsdead wrote: Byte wrote:So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?
So you start off your sentence with this line and you expect a friendly, respectful response ?!
Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ? or are you trying to bait some sort online discussion ? because frankly it appears this is your goal.
Well don't bite the bait, Ed!
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Post by: zedsdead
MVBrandt wrote: zedsdead wrote: Byte wrote:So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?
So you start off your sentence with this line and you expect a friendly, respectful response ?!
Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ? or are you trying to bait some sort online discussion ? because frankly it appears this is your goal.
Well don't bite the bait, Ed!
lol..fair enough
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Post by: Hulksmash
I'ts ok Ed. I almost bit too
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Post by: Byte
zedsdead wrote: Byte wrote:So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?
Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ?
I did do that. The Gent calmly explained to me the background and in and outs of the (turns out) global raffle. I now firmly understand the intent and these contributions for the raffle have no impact on prizes. Very smart NOCF. I apologize that I apparently came accross offensive. I feel my questions considering the information provided were appropriate. Now that someone in the know actually provided information and some helpful keystrokes. I realize I was way off base irt the charity raffle.
I'm glad someone took the time to explain. More of the same up to that point.
Again, please excuse my post and ignorance irt to the raffle. Its very clever and seems like a great effort supported by tons of charitable gamers. Pretty amazing actually.
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Post by: MVBrandt
Byte wrote: zedsdead wrote: Byte wrote:So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?
Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ?
I did do that. The Gent calmly explained to me the background and in and outs of the (turns out) global raffle. I now firmly understand the intent and these contributions for the raffle have no impact on prizes. Very smart NOCF. I apologize that I apparently came accross offensive. I feel my questions considering the information provided were appropriate. Now that someone in the know actually provided information and some helpful keystrokes. I realize I was way off base irt the charity raffle.
I'm glad someone took the time to explain. More of the same up to that point.
Again, please excuse my post and ignorance irt to the raffle. Its very clever and seems like a great effort supported by tons of charitable gamers. Pretty amazing actually.
TY byte. The NOVA Open is vastly more than a 40K GT, which is less than 10% of our attendance. If you want to ping customerservice@novaopen.com about heavy questions in re cheaters at NOVA please do. Just don't want this to become the ATC thread when its purpose is not that.
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Post by: Sneggy
Where can we find the lists for the Invitational? Being invited to predict pairings (by the FLG article today) is all well and good but theres no lists to look at to make that judgement 
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Sneggy wrote:Where can we find the lists for the Invitational? Being invited to predict pairings (by the FLG article today) is all well and good but theres no lists to look at to make that judgement
Having players only commit in advance to faction is part of the fun
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Post by: Sneggy
Ah right, no lists as of yet, Thats me not understanding the system then.
Will it be on BCP at this time?
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Post by: Audustum
So maybe I'm just crazy, but I'm reading through the GT Primer and I can't figure out how the LoS blocking feature of the center Ruins work and how you distinguish that with the partial LoS blocking feature of the outer Ruins. Can someone explain this?
I understood full LoS blocking Ruins to work like this (stolen from Reddit):
So imagine that "[]" is a building. A "o" is a model.
o................[]o
^ Model A // ^ Model B
In the above example, Model A cannot shoot at Model B. Even if Model A can see Model B through windows or cracks in the building, Model A may not shoot at Model B and vice versa. Since 8th is pretty shooty, or I should say, Warhammer 40K itself is pretty shooty, making it so the bottom floor protects models no matter what helps to make it a more interesting game. This is also important with the changes to 8th in regards to shooting since it is easier to draw line of sight, and to hit models.
o................[o]
^ Model A // ^ Model B
In the above example, Model A may shoot at Model B provided he can draw line of sight because Model B is inside the building itself. Model B is also benefiting from a cover save, so it helps to kind of "cancel" it out.
..................[]o
o................[]o
^ Model A // ^ Model B
Note that in this example, Model B is tall enough to go up and over the first story. Model A can draw line of sight to model B from the second story, so Model A may shoot at Model B if it can see it through the second story. This is to make it so that large creatures don't get to hide as easily. Most infantry and tanks would be able to hide behind a first story building in most situations.
Using this rule will make your games more fun and make them a little bit more balanced.
Is this how the center Ruins work at NOVA? If so, what does 'partial' blocking do, then?
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Post by: MVBrandt
That looks like the ITC rule and no we certainly don't use it. Blocking just is letting you know the pieces completely and actually block LOS as we built the terrain with tall, wide, solid walls.
The partially blocking pieces are ruins but are varyingly more porous (ie windows) and so are variably less likely to physically block LOS.
We play with rulebook true LOS and just a metric shitton of lovingly volunteer crafted terrain.
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Post by: Ordana
Is there going to be a stream for Nova?
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Post by: MVBrandt
2 streams actually
Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.
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Post by: Ordana
MVBrandt wrote:2 streams actually
Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.
Sweet, thanks. I'll keep an eye out for em.
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Post by: Budzerker
MVBrandt wrote:2 streams actually
Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.
I can only find the Warhammer TV stream. Which you cannot watch without paying money and subscribing... Hard No.
What is the other stream?
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Post by: blackmage
Budzerker wrote:MVBrandt wrote:2 streams actually
Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.
I can only find the Warhammer TV stream. Which you cannot watch without paying money and subscribing... Hard No.
What is the other stream?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/303699332
there you find
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Post by: Sunny Side Up
Budzerker wrote:MVBrandt wrote:2 streams actually
Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.
I can only find the Warhammer TV stream. Which you cannot watch without paying money and subscribing... Hard No.
What is the other stream?
Warhammer stream is free watching live, just need to pay for back games. You also get one free sub per month with Amazon Prime, if you'd happen to have that and would be interested enough in these games to throw it that way.
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Post by: MVBrandt
PSA. How to follow the Nova Invitational this weekend. (And the Open later too)
Games Workshop Stream w/ Geoff and Frankie: https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer
Beast Coast Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/beast_coast_gaming
Brackets for Invitational to see results: https://challonge.com/NOVAinvite18
The Warhammer stream is awesome and it'll encourage GW to do more stuff like this. Geoff and Frankie are doing a fantastic job!
P.S. - For lists, watch the streams, they post them in chat for the matches happening at the time.
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Post by: djones520
Did anyone watching game 2 catch Juice falling back with a Helverin, then firing and assaulting with it?
I just had the stream going on my phone, was hard to understand what was going on, but that's what looked like what happened.
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Post by: Ideasweasel
Anyone use best coast pairings app? Anyone know what’s up with over half of entires having red (can’t view clip boards)
App bugged?
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Post by: zamerion
Is there a place to see kilteam winners lists?
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Post by: blackmage
so Nova finished and same identical list won both open and invitational, competitive 40k is very healty
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Post by: Byte
 blackmage wrote:so Nova finished and same identical list won both open and invitational, competitive 40k is very healty
Wow. That's crazy.
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Post by: blackmage
IK+AM+BA... and for what i know in Nova open top 16 half or amies was like that....
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Post by: stratigo
Byte wrote: blackmage wrote:so Nova finished and same identical list won both open and invitational, competitive 40k is very healty
Wow. That's crazy.
there's slight variation. Kopach had hellhounds, gonyo had sentinals and a couple crusader units.
Ultimately though, the core list was the same, as it was for most of the top finishers
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Post by: blackmage
yes very small differences, but pretty boring anyway
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Post by: bogalubov
BCP app is a smoldering dumpster fire, is there a list of winners and top lists.
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Post by: Smirrors
For such a big tournament there is so little running commentary.
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Post by: Sunny Side Up
Well, it should be noted a Morty and Magnus list was in the finals, despite the deluge of Castellan/BA/Guard lists.
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Post by: Byte
I want to thank the NOVA bubbas for keeping this info flowing in the forums. It would be easy to shift to SM but they keep us informed.
Thank you NOVA bubbas. Im starting to become a believer.
Completely impressed this year. I know its based out of the beltway and Im a southern Virginia purist. But I think yous got it right this year.
Thank you MVBRANDT and your team. A very high bar has been set. Incredible venue. Your Necromunda coordinator plays out of my club and a former 30k singles champ as well. Ive had some great games with Mike Walsh in the past so I get it. Respect...
Humble pie doesnt taste that bad btw.
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Post by: Slipspace
 Smirrors wrote:For such a big tournament there is so little running commentary.
Most of the previous commentary about big tournaments has been about controversies surrounding possible cheating. There hasn't actually been a huge amount of commentary from other tournaments about general tournament stuff outside of that. I suppose that's a good thing in this case - no controversies on the playing side and what looks to be a well-run tournament (unlike a certain London-based tournament) so no news is good news.
Having said that, if we're seeing one list dominate so much it really isn't healthy for the game at all. Looks like there's still lots of work to do getting the balance of 40k right. I still think the power of soup is the biggest problem that needs to be solved, but there are others too.
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Post by: blackmage
Sunny Side Up wrote:Well, it should be noted a Morty and Magnus list was in the finals, despite the deluge of Castellan/ BA/Guard lists.
he sure is a good player but Nanavati and Brandon grant made two critical mistakes so he won, that list is too dependent by 1st turn and good dice, imho.
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Post by: MVBrandt
Castellans with limitless CP certainly did impact the meta. And yeah the GT was as close to perfect as we could get. No major controversy or drama that we could see, extremely good play, and it ran both smoothly and perfectly on time.
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Post by: Slipspace
MVBrandt wrote:Castellans with limitless CP certainly did impact the meta. And yeah the GT was as close to perfect as we could get. No major controversy or drama that we could see, extremely good play, and it ran both smoothly and perfectly on time.
Then kudos to you and your team and congratulations for your successful event.
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Post by: Captain Chronos
Most of the previous commentary about big tournaments has been about controversies surrounding possible cheating.
The tourneys have been great in this regard.
It was painful seeing a few of these past tourneys won by intentional slow playing, almost to the point of embarrassingly being justified...
Loving the trend now, good play and quality players.
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Post by: karandrasss
blackmage wrote:Sunny Side Up wrote:Well, it should be noted a Morty and Magnus list was in the finals, despite the deluge of Castellan/ BA/Guard lists.
he sure is a good player but Nanavati and Brandon grant made two critical mistakes so he won, that list is too dependent by 1st turn and good dice, imho.
What did they do?
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Post by: blackmage
Nanavati let Magnus kill Y'vraine and Brandon let his scout being wrapped by tzaangors so they cant fall back from Mortarion, the primarch got safe in CaC and next turn charged Castellan killing it
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Post by: Audustum
So I recorded the top 11 lists before my BCP disappeared (meant top 10 but I snagged an extra one by mistake so here you go!). There may be some mistakes/missing bits due to the pictures of the player's list uploaded to BCP having clipping errors. I don't remember the exact order of their placings, but here you go (I intend to make a General Discussion of them too)
'Sexi Mexi' Presents "Diamond is Unbreakable"
Chris (Last Name Illegible) NOVA List
Alan Blakerborough's NOVA List
-This one has lots crossed out and hand-written notes so it's extra hard to decipher-
Shane Watts Presents 'Peace Through Dakka'
Alex Ing's NOVA List
-This one is ENTIRELY handwritten and is probably the least decipherable of them all-
Jason Curtis's NOVA List
Nick Nanavati, King of Finlandia, Hunter of Trolls, Drinker of Drinks, Breaker of Models, Prophet of Fateweaver and Lord of the Warp Token Presents 'The NOVA Winning List'
-Note: While it won many games, this list did not win NOVA, contrary to its name.
Erik Illegible's NOVA List
No Name Given's NOVA List
-Seriously guys, put your names on your lists. I beg you.
Andrew Gonyo's NOVA List
-This is the list that won.
Unprinted Name's NOVA List
Hope you all enjoy! Congratulations to all the NOVA staff and players for a great tournament!
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Post by: Cult of My Boy Blue
Man that is looks like some boring lists to play against when the majority is the same list with a few changes. Hoping Chapter Approved provides the necessary shake up!
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Post by: karandrasss
blackmage wrote:Nanavati let Magnus kill Y'vraine and Brandon let his scout being wrapped by tzaangors so they cant fall back from Mortarion, the primarch got safe in CaC and next turn charged Castellan killing it
That's weird. I thought Nanavati brought Yncarne instead of Yvraine. Does that suck letting a <10 HP character get killed by a model with a humongous base.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Friend of mine went in with 5-ish Russes, 2 Manticores, a Hellhound, a smattering of infantry and a naked Shadowsword. I think he won a few games. Custodes Supreme Command
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle
Vexilus Praetor (no note on which flag)
And this is why I hate tournaments. The Custodes sent 3 commanders to help, and a dude with a banner. That makes sense!
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Post by: tneva82
 Cult of My Boy Blue wrote:Man that is looks like some boring lists to play against when the majority is the same list with a few changes. Hoping Chapter Approved provides the necessary shake up!
So you will have another set of boring copy/paste lists to play against...Big improvement...For GW profit line
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Post by: DJ3
blackmage wrote:Nanavati let Magnus kill Y'vraine and Brandon let his scout being wrapped by tzaangors so they cant fall back from Mortarion, the primarch got safe in CaC and next turn charged Castellan killing it
Due to his lack of shooting, Nick's matchup against Primarchs is awful; it wasn't necessarily a mistake, he just attempted an incredibly risky play to try to put himself in a better position in a bad matchup, and it failed.
He was on track to lose just as badly if he'd done nothing, so he took a shot. And it was the Yncarne, not Yvraine.
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Post by: Tsilber
 djones520 wrote:Did anyone watching game 2 catch Juice falling back with a Helverin, then firing and assaulting with it?
I just had the stream going on my phone, was hard to understand what was going on, but that's what looked like what happened.
I only met Juice this past event, and played him in the semi's of Bracket 2.
I can tell ya, he is first class person and player, through and through. He is not the type to do, or forgot he could not do something. His play was perfection against me, and that's 4 days in, after 10+ Games.
-Todd S.
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Post by: blackmage
karandrasss wrote: blackmage wrote:Nanavati let Magnus kill Y'vraine and Brandon let his scout being wrapped by tzaangors so they cant fall back from Mortarion, the primarch got safe in CaC and next turn charged Castellan killing it
That's weird. I thought Nanavati brought Yncarne instead of Yvraine. Does that suck letting a <10 HP character get killed by a model with a humongous base.
yes yncarne sorry
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Post by: tjkopena
I've posted recaps and photos of the 40k Trios & Narrative---
Trios: 34 teams, 102 players, very healthy theme competition
http://www.rocketshipgames.com/blogs/tjkopena/2018/09/2018-nova-40k-trios/
Narrative: 160+ unique players across seven rounds of standard 40K (including two doubles rounds), four Kill Team rounds, and one Apocalypse, plus four War Council meetings
http://www.rocketshipgames.com/blogs/tjkopena/2018/09/2018-nova-40k-narrative/
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Post by: stratigo
Slipspace wrote: Smirrors wrote:For such a big tournament there is so little running commentary.
Most of the previous commentary about big tournaments has been about controversies surrounding possible cheating. There hasn't actually been a huge amount of commentary from other tournaments about general tournament stuff outside of that. I suppose that's a good thing in this case - no controversies on the playing side and what looks to be a well-run tournament (unlike a certain London-based tournament) so no news is good news.
Having said that, if we're seeing one list dominate so much it really isn't healthy for the game at all. Looks like there's still lots of work to do getting the balance of 40k right. I still think the power of soup is the biggest problem that needs to be solved, but there are others too.
the secret I think is that there will never ever ever be perfect balance. But that the balance will shift regularly, to the tune of every 6 months. Automatically Appended Next Post:  H.B.M.C. wrote:Friend of mine went in with 5-ish Russes, 2 Manticores, a Hellhound, a smattering of infantry and a naked Shadowsword. I think he won a few games.
Custodes Supreme Command
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle
Vexilus Praetor (no note on which flag)
And this is why I hate tournaments.
The Custodes sent 3 commanders to help, and a dude with a banner.
That makes sense!
of all the armies in the game, custodes are the one where a handful of dudes would show up to wreck gak randomly really.
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Post by: oni
Wow. Four of the top ten armies are practically the same. I guess this isn't really a new concept tho.
Time to dial back the CP's to 3 and 9 again for the Battalion and Brigade.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
stratigo wrote:of all the armies in the game, custodes are the one where a handful of dudes would show up to wreck gak randomly really.
I completely agree that the Adeptus Custodes sending a squad to help out would totally wreck shop. What's ludicrous is that they'd send 3 of their commanders, unsupported.
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Post by: godswildcard
Soooo....why the Blood Angels? Actually, why that particular combination on BA and Catachans? ( I kno why the Raven Castellan)
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Post by: necron99
 godswildcard wrote:Soooo....why the Blood Angels? Actually, why that particular combination on BA and Catachans? ( I kno why the Raven Castellan)
BA for the Smash Captains IG for the never ending CPs and the bodies to make it impossible to deep strike anywhere near your knight
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Post by: godswildcard
necron99 wrote: godswildcard wrote:Soooo....why the Blood Angels? Actually, why that particular combination on BA and Catachans? ( I kno why the Raven Castellan)
BA for the Smash Captains
IG for the never ending CPs and the bodies to make it impossible to deep strike anywhere near your knight
Gotcha. Thanks. That’s why I’m not a successful tournament player.
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Post by: stratigo
H.B.M.C. wrote:stratigo wrote:of all the armies in the game, custodes are the one where a handful of dudes would show up to wreck gak randomly really.
I completely agree that the Adeptus Custodes sending a squad to help out would totally wreck shop. What's ludicrous is that they'd send 3 of their commanders, unsupported.
custodes don't operate like that though. The codex makes clear, as do the books, that individual custodes operate on their own initiative all the time. A shield captain isn't even a particularly official title. It's literally a dude that other custodes acknowledge is worthy of following.
Custodes don't operate like a modern military. They don't detach squads from an overall command structure with a strict military hierarchy. Three shield captains could literally be three dudes with some prominence showing up to wreck gak.
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Post by: necron99
godswildcard wrote: necron99 wrote: godswildcard wrote:Soooo....why the Blood Angels? Actually, why that particular combination on BA and Catachans? ( I kno why the Raven Castellan)
BA for the Smash Captains
IG for the never ending CPs and the bodies to make it impossible to deep strike anywhere near your knight
Gotcha. Thanks. That’s why I’m not a successful tournament player.
Oh, I wouldn't say that One of my peeps played IG/ BA/Knight which he switched too just a couple of weeks before Nova and I didn't think it would be a tournament winning list myself when he asked to borrow my Castellan knight.
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Post by: tneva82
 oni wrote:Wow. Four of the top ten armies are practically the same. I guess this isn't really a new concept tho.
Time to dial back the CP's to 3 and 9 again for the Battalion and Brigade.
Making IG batteries even more of a neccessity. Good idea!
Or we could fix the damn soup for a change. Soup is causing nothing but trouble.
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