Looks interesting enough at the initial teaser, they don't have 80 easy build kits though so who knows what will actually be the contents beyond the initial 4.
At £7.99 I can see them giving out bigger sprues or heroes even. WD #1 had the Slaughterpriest, which has a RRP 18£. Primaris heroes are 20. Blight Hauler is 15. Issues could only include paints or tools.
Hanskrampf wrote: At £7.99 I can see them giving out bigger sprues or heroes even. WD #1 had the Slaughterpriest, which has a RRP 18£. Primaris heroes are 20. Blight Hauler is 15. Issues could only include paints or tools.
Thats my thinking too, Primaris combat squads are 20 pounds, lots of kits are around that price too and once the newsagents stop holding them on the shelves as they often do I would wager the deals will be better as they no longer have anyone picking up the one mag they want for discount on the kit.
This could be great, it looks very much in the vein of the old LotR Battle Games In Middle Earth collection which I'm sure is the reason many of us are in the hobby to this day. Even if the value isn't as insane as it was with that (£3.99 a fortnight for the magazine and a full sprue of 10-12 minis or a metal mini and paint! Those were the days) then this certainly has massive potential to offer an affordable, accessible chunk of hobby material to people on limited budgets or unwilling/unable to collect a full army.
Interested to see what kind of contents get served up, but I could actually see myself going for this; having a few minis every couple of weeks at a cut price to just muck about with would be good fun and not too straining on the wallet.
daedalus wrote: Hey, they found something to do with all those citadel paint handles.
Wait, what? At my shop, they're always sold out. As soon as they get a new delivery, everything is sold on the first weekend. It's by far the most popular item there.
Shame it’s only in the Uk. I would happily buy the first issue. £1.99 for the easy build primaris marines, 3 paints and a brush is probably the best deal gw has ever done. Even the later issues are cheaper than just buying the minis. Very curious what they are going to put in the other 76 issues especially as it is weekly. Are there a whole lot more easy build kits on the way?
daedalus wrote: Hey, they found something to do with all those citadel paint handles.
You joke, but those things are never in stock at my local shop.
Is there something about them I'm missing? I've seen them around here. Never tons of them, but they never really look like they have any missing either.
daedalus wrote: Hey, they found something to do with all those citadel paint handles.
You joke, but those things are never in stock at my local shop.
Is there something about them I'm missing? I've seen them around here. Never tons of them, but they never really look like they have any missing either.
It could be a regional thing. For example in Spain they are very popular, just like the GW tape measures. I know in many other places people just buy one much cheaper from a shop, but in Spain, to find a tape measure that it is on inches is very difficult, every single one is on centimeters. So like 90% of the people uses a GW official one.
daedalus wrote: Hey, they found something to do with all those citadel paint handles.
You joke, but those things are never in stock at my local shop.
Is there something about them I'm missing? I've seen them around here. Never tons of them, but they never really look like they have any missing either.
Cheap and handy. Other similar grips cost about the same, might as well buy a GW one.
daedalus wrote: Hey, they found something to do with all those citadel paint handles.
You joke, but those things are never in stock at my local shop.
Is there something about them I'm missing? I've seen them around here. Never tons of them, but they never really look like they have any missing either.
It could be a regional thing. For example in Spain they are very popular, just like the GW tape measures. I know in many other places people just buy one much cheaper from a shop, but in Spain, to find a tape measure that it is on inches is very difficult, every single one is on centimeters. So like 90% of the people uses a GW official one.
daedalus wrote: Hey, they found something to do with all those citadel paint handles.
You joke, but those things are never in stock at my local shop.
Is there something about them I'm missing? I've seen them around here. Never tons of them, but they never really look like they have any missing either.
They are only available in my FLGS now because probably all regulars finally have at least one. They were continuously out of stock for weeks
As for how they are going to get 80 issues, I don't see anywhere that says there will never be duplicate miniatures. I'm sure at some point they will have you build bigger units.
I'm not sure it will be worth it for someone who has a 40k collection / many of GW's E2B sprues but as a way to introduce the hobby to more people this is a good concept. I like it but wouldn't probably subscribe. Hopefully - like the Star Wars and Marvel comic collections - this will be available in other countries too next year or so.
I guess the paint pots are the smaller ones, from the Marine/Death Guard paint sets released last fall.
I've signed up: the first delivery of four issues (with the first two at a discount) is worth it for the models, paints and brush alone. After that, I'll see what future issues hold.
ruralguard wrote: I've signed up: the first delivery of four issues (with the first two at a discount) is worth it for the models, paints and brush alone. After that, I'll see what future issues hold.
ruralguard wrote: I've signed up: the first delivery of four issues (with the first two at a discount) is worth it for the models, paints and brush alone. After that, I'll see what future issues hold.
You're showing a USA flag - what gives?!?
Oops, no idea how to choose location / country! For the avoidance of doubt for anyone else reading, I'm UK based. Have not found a way to get this to the USA or anywhere else (sorry!)
ruralguard wrote: I've signed up: the first delivery of four issues (with the first two at a discount) is worth it for the models, paints and brush alone. After that, I'll see what future issues hold.
You're showing a USA flag - what gives?!?
I haven't completed the order, but I started to put one in, and it let me fill it out with my US mailing address. The page (i.e. not chrome) even autocompleted it for me.
ruralguard wrote: I've signed up: the first delivery of four issues (with the first two at a discount) is worth it for the models, paints and brush alone. After that, I'll see what future issues hold.
You're showing a USA flag - what gives?!?
I haven't completed the order, but I started to put one in, and it let me fill it out with my US mailing address. The page (i.e. not chrome) even autocompleted it for me.
How do we know it's UK only?
It's in the FAQ:
How can I get copies if I live outside the UK?
We are sorry, but at the moment we cannot send copies outside the UK.
Wow, that was painful to fill out, it uses message boxes for validation messages and if one of the address fields is too long it throws an unhandled sql error.
daedalus wrote: Huh. Learn something new every day, I guess.
They've apparently been a big seller. I haven't picked one up but that's because I have disposable gloves that let me hold the model without wear 'n' tear being an issue.
All I picture with this is, as soon as it hits newsagents is getting to everyone of them and buying all the issues to get as many Intercessors as you could possibly need on the cheap.
Ah, reminds me of when I did it with the Moria goblin issues of BGIME. 120 goblins for £24, that was a good day.
Very interesting. Not for me like, but interesting all the same.
So...not that interesting then ?
I'd be interested, but once again, no USA option.
For NooBs I think it’s got real legs. £7.99 a week is pocket money. And as a demonstrably creative hobby, not bank breaking as a monthly treat from parents.
I also suspect this isn’t the one they’re hiring staff for, given it popped up nary a fortnight after the Staff Quest began.
Could be (and only could!) we’re looking at this, and something for more established gamers later down the line. I reckon a large centre piece in resin (possibly even pre-painted, ala the DeAgostini Falcon) is a possibility.
ruralguard wrote: I've signed up: the first delivery of four issues (with the first two at a discount) is worth it for the models, paints and brush alone. After that, I'll see what future issues hold.
You're showing a USA flag - what gives?!?
I haven't completed the order, but I started to put one in, and it let me fill it out with my US mailing address. The page (i.e. not chrome) even autocompleted it for me.
How do we know it's UK only?
It’s likely postage issues with the paint pots as much as any other logistics.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I do wonder if we might, in time, see exclusive sculpts of some kind on this?
So the pictures (and common sense) suggest they'll be working through the starter box models and associated kits (including a multiple-issue Dreadnought). I suspect it will be a long time before we see anything that isn't Primarines or Death Guard.
I want an Age of Sigmar one. Maybe that's what the new jobs are for?
Chairman Aeon wrote: So, First Strike is delivered over 4 weeks with each minis set including a Getting Started with 40K magazine... BRILLIANT!!!
I tried to subscribe but I knew there was no way they'd ship to Canada at that price. I haven't painted any of the primaris guys yet and figured it would be an ideal way to get them.
No_Marines_Here wrote: So the pictures (and common sense) suggest they'll be working through the starter box models and associated kits (including a multiple-issue Dreadnought). I suspect it will be a long time before we see anything that isn't Primarines or Death Guard.
I want an Age of Sigmar one. Maybe that's what the new jobs are for?
Chairman Aeon wrote: So, First Strike is delivered over 4 weeks with each minis set including a Getting Started with 40K magazine... BRILLIANT!!!
I tried to subscribe but I knew there was no way they'd ship to Canada at that price. I haven't painted any of the primaris guys yet and figured it would be an ideal way to get them.
Is this on the shelves at news agents in the UK?
It will be - at least for the first few issues, if other Partworks are anything go by.
I think it is a great idea and good way to get kids and newcomers involved. I don't think £8 a week is too much of a stretch and it is a steady drip feed of new models and paints without overwhelming the consumer. Definitely within pocket money range too.
I am surprised GW don't have some sort of subscription based model already - come to think of it, it could be a great way to build a new army, a little bit at a time in affordable tranches.
Out of interest - the Primaris marines, do they have Ultramarines heraldry moulded onto them ala the Dark Angels from Dark Vengeance or are they "blank" so can be painted up as any chapter?
Hmmm....thirty two quid a month. You get eleven quids worth of paint (after the first four), so in reality, you're paying twenty one quid for four issues and their respective models.
Looking it over, it would appear to be very much worth buying multiples of the first issue, and maybe two of the second, then actively subscribing from Issue 3 so as to get one of the more expensive issues free.
After that, it really depends on the contents of subsequent issues. I fully expect to see all the other easy to build kits wheeled out, alongside some of the more classic easy build marines/guardians/sluggas. Thing is, I wouldn't bother paying eight quid for five cadians plus a pot of paint. They're too cheap and easy to get second hand. So it really would depend on the ongoing content.
I'll definitely pick up four or five of Issue 1 for the paints though!
Ketara wrote: Hmmm....thirty two quid a month. You get eleven quids worth of paint (after the first four), so in reality, you're paying twenty one quid for four issues and their respective models.
Looking it over, it would appear to be very much worth buying multiples of the first issue, and maybe two of the second, then actively subscribing from Issue 3 so as to get one of the more expensive issues free.
After that, it really depends on the contents of subsequent issues. I fully expect to see all the other easy to build kits wheeled out, alongside some of the more classic easy build marines/guardians/sluggas. Thing is, I wouldn't bother paying eight quid for five cadians plus a pot of paint. They're too cheap and easy to get second hand. So it really would depend on the ongoing content.
I'll definitely pick up four or five of Issue 1 for the paints though!
This definitely seems to be a trial release.
The online survey is asking questions along the lines of what extra subscriber gifts you'd like to see (USB stick, messenger bag, 'large scale' warhammer figures).
There is also a question as to whether you would consider paying an extra GPB1 per issue for access to extras including scenery. The current 2000AD collection had the option of paying extra per issue compared to the standard sub price to have access to a range of figures (Dredd, Death, Rogue Trooper, Nemesis and so on).
Think of the small print though. The painting handle is with your 7th delivery. I think the issues are being sent in monthly batches. You won't receive it for 7 months!
As i have just told my SO, I am giving up my usual 3 or 4 beers I drink in the evening during week to get this.
I'd think it might be a hit if it is visible in the supermarket's magazine section. Older ex-GW players might see it and decide to pop back into the hobby when they are pushing the trolley around with a nagging spouse.
So long as they don't start putting "exclusive" models in there once they run out of existing E2B Primarines and DG, this looks to be a brilliant idea, and the best use of the concept. Not for "vets" really, but doesn't come at our expense in any way and is great for new players.
Can concur, went into my local and there weren't any copies.
But for £2 I can't pass this up so I'll keep an eye on this thread.
I'm quite glad it's not one of those 'for £8.99 a week and 300 weekly editions, you can build a boat' that ends up costing £2000.
The Black Library book and magazine thing was really cool as well.
I doubt anyone will get first copies, as scalpers will buy them up and sell it all seperate. Throw the brush away, sell the paints and figures, and get... what... 6-7 for the figures, 1-2 for the paints, 9-12 pounds per two pounds spent.
After issue 5, what are they going to give us? a dreadnaught in x parts? A Blight Hauler in y parts? Scenery? More dice?
Saying that... scenery would be pretty darn cool. Imagine getting a few bits, and then learning how LOS/cover works, and at the end you not only have two forces, but a decent amount of terrain too.
I have signed up for the first 4 issue trial run and will grab couple more issues of 1 and a second copy of issue 2 if I see any at the shops. At worst I get a couple of paints I will have limited use for and some models I don’t already own to paint.
Is anyone offering a subscription service for US customers? As in, a US customer subscribes and it ships to an address in theUK. Then every four issues, the UK address person then mails to the US. Something like that
judgedoug wrote: Is anyone offering a subscription service for US customers? As in, a US customer subscribes and it ships to an address in theUK. Then every four issues, the UK address person then mails to the US. Something like that
What would be the point? The international shipping would wipe out any discount, I should think.
So is this on sale in places like smiths then guys. Would grab a couple at 2 quid a pop but now the snow has hit big time around here, that’s put the kibosh on getting in to town for a bit.
Yodhrin wrote: So long as they don't start putting "exclusive" models in there once they run out of existing E2B Primarines and DG, this looks to be a brilliant idea, and the best use of the concept. Not for "vets" really, but doesn't come at our expense in any way and is great for new players.
BGIME had the odd exclusive figure now and again (Boromir in armour, without the standard and Hama of the Rohan Guard I think).
It was also one of the options put forward in the survey that I mentioned earlier.
Once the part works is up and running, the web site will normally have back issues available for those who want to be more selective over what they purchase.
Looks like a great tool to get kids into the hobby and build up their collections.
Some kits they can split over two issues like the EZ build redemptor, and I would put money on the Chaos cultist sprue turning up in the first few months.
I'll probably subscribe for cheap minis plus paints. Some of the LOTR issues were really good. It would also be great if scenery were included. The new ruin sprue is pretty easy to put together for a start.
I hope it doesn’t come out for a few weeks, I go on holiday tomorrow and I’m not back till the 15th.
I want to pick up issue 1, a couple of times if they aren’t shifting.
CoOp and Smiths are usually the ones.
To the post about shipping from UK not being worth it, it may wipe out most if not all of the discount for the models and paint, but you are getting the magazine which is quite an interesting thing for some.
(Also, that’d ship to the US for what maybe £10? Might even get 8 issues sent for that cost spending what’s in it.
You can send 1kg for £13 which is quite a few issues I’d have thought - there is a cheaper sending but I never use it so can’t remember it. About £8?)
judgedoug wrote: Is anyone offering a subscription service for US customers? As in, a US customer subscribes and it ships to an address in theUK. Then every four issues, the UK address person then mails to the US. Something like that
What would be the point? The international shipping would wipe out any discount, I should think.
Yodhrin wrote: So long as they don't start putting "exclusive" models in there once they run out of existing E2B Primarines and DG, this looks to be a brilliant idea, and the best use of the concept. Not for "vets" really, but doesn't come at our expense in any way and is great for new players.
BGIME had the odd exclusive figure now and again (Boromir in armour, without the standard and Hama of the Rohan Guard I think).
It was also one of the options put forward in the survey that I mentioned earlier.
Once the part works is up and running, the web site will normally have back issues available for those who want to be more selective over what they purchase.
Hama (issue #53 exclusive), the other Hama (Hornburg) pose was released individually as well as in Defenders of Rohan set.
Gandalf the White on Foot (not standing on a rock) with staff raised was a issue #39 exclusive.
Those were the only two
Zond wrote: I subscribed for the first 4. Seems like something fun to go along with and if it loses steam after the first 4 I'm out £23 or so tops.
But not even out £23, as you’ll have got the RRP £20 Of models from the box set, a £3-4 brush, 6 paints at £15ish, plus the 4 magazines that may be alright. Decent saving..
Also month 2 is only £24 as you get the free issue, so it’s all to play for with what’s in those (of course we will find out when they turn up in a bundle I suppose so may or may not be worth it.
I had a thought if they aren’t doing part models per issue and it’s a whole model at least every time (their wording suggests), Felthius - one week, then the Cohort the next, as you’d get full sprue each time, is there anything primaris that is similar? A whole dread in one go would be great.
I also think after the first 4, there isn’t no need to go easy to build stuff either, as you’ve had 4 issues to become a modeller, so it could just be anything, that old one Marine on sprue bit, the set of three models that come in each of the paint sets, there’s like an ork one and so on right?
Could even be a sprue of something they are re doing later in the year, just to clear them, old finecast models even.
Point being I’m not so sure it’ll stick to those two ‘starter armies’
I’m definitely keeping an eye, will be interesting to see where it goes, and if they make it to 80..
Back in the LotR days they did the odd two-issue set, typically cavalry where you'd get the mounts one issue and the riders the next (though as they delivered 2 issues at a time you got it all in one go if you were subscribed). So doing a Dreadnought over a couple of weeks is certainly possible.
I'd not be surprised to see a few of the more recent character sprues make their way into future issues, they're hardly the most complex models in most cases.
I worked at the distributing warehouse for the LotRs one. For reasons I can’t explain I never hoarded all the returns, just skipped them with all the other month old mags.
If (and let's not kid ourselves 'when' ) they release this in the US, I'm all over it! I've looked at a lot of miniature subscription services, and they all seem very unappealing (would be happy to be proven wrong ). But I would enjoy receiving a somewhat rando mini from GW, especially every WEEK. Seems like they'd really have to step up their mailing opperation for something like this, but, if it works, you'll seed people's collections with a lot of minis they might not have normally purchased. Hopefully it does well in the UK, so we can get it set up in other countries as well.
Paradigm wrote: Back in the LotR days they did the odd two-issue set, typically cavalry where you'd get the mounts one issue and the riders the next (though as they delivered 2 issues at a time you got it all in one go if you were subscribed). So doing a Dreadnought over a couple of weeks is certainly possible.
I'd not be surprised to see a few of the more recent character sprues make their way into future issues, they're hardly the most complex models in most cases.
Yeah quite a lot of those character minis were single sprue set ups, so really easy to do them.
The Multi week Dread thing goes against the website as it does say “Each Issue” has a miniature, LotR never promised that.
I know by 5 issues in no one will be doing it (as people will be subscribed by then) - but technically it is possible to buy the issues one a time a time. So sticking by their words they can’t do it, but I could easily see that being the way it’s done.
I think the first few months will focus on Imperium and Chaos. Primaris and Deathguard have 4 EZ build kits each.
However there is no reason not to put sprues from the starter sets, the single character sprues or the 5 man primaris sprues in there. Deathguard have a lot of elite characters.
However Lord Felthius is almost certainly going to be accompanied by a primaris captain of some sort for balance purposes.
What I hope they do is introduce a low point game standard format and missions. Kill team is sorely missed. They could then do a Kill Team box based around EZ build kits or similar.
What I might do is a collect along vlog were I build a new force based on the magazine.
You could also find Marine sprues being repeated, especially if the paint of the week is for Blood Angels.
The other thing BGiME did was to include cut out cardboard models every now and then dependant on the scenario, for example Watcher tentacles. There was also bonus sticker sheets as well. The best I remember was the large Royal standards for hanging around a scratch built Theoden's Hall.
There was also two special issues for Two Towers and ROTK that, for a higher cover price contained the metal mounted Gandalf/ Shadow fax and King Aragon models. Easy build Dreadnought as a special outside the numbered releases for a higher price?
I guess we'll just have to wait for whatever is planned past the first four issues.
Don't forget that the survey also hints there could be be more available if a subscriber is willing to pay extra per issue.
alphaecho wrote: You could also find Marine sprues being repeated, especially if the paint of the week is for Blood Angels.
The other thing BGiME did was to include cut out cardboard models every now and then dependant on the scenario, for example Watcher tentacles. There was also bonus sticker sheets as well. The best I remember was the large Royal standards for hanging around a scratch built Theoden's Hall.
There was also two special issues for Two Towers and ROTK that, for a higher cover price contained the metal mounted Gandalf/ Shadow fax and King Aragon models. Easy build Dreadnought as a special outside the numbered releases for a higher price?
I guess we'll just have to wait for whatever is planned past the first four issues.
Don't forget that the survey also hints there could be be more available if a subscriber is willing to pay extra per issue.
The extra money per issue could definitely be where we get a Dread and such.
And repeat models particularly on the SM side will happen I’m sure (much more noticeable on the DG side as their marines look more unique).
My experience with Hachette hasn’t been too bad apart from the fact that they are sending out hardback graphic novels in rubbish cardboard boxes that sees the books end up damage every other month. That said, they always replace ant damaged issues without any question what so ever. When I have cancelled previously subscriptions it has always been very easy to do and just needed to send an email.
I don’t think the packaging will be an issue this time around.
I remember the "packaging". Cardboard box 3 times the size of the book, book is loose with no padding.
As for cancelling, it took several weeks with phonecalls and emails daily. Every time it was "Ok we've cancelled it, it'll show up in your account tomorrow", but it never did. And they went right on sending more stuff during that period.
They only actually cancelled it after I had the bank put in an order to refuse all payments to them. Shockingly they were actually able to cancel my sub almost immediately after I told them about that.
I did get the money back, via cheque, for the stuff they sent me while they knew I was trying to cancel.
They seem to alternate packaging between massive parcel way too big for the book with no extra padding so that it gets damaged or exactly the right sized box but waffer thin cardboard so offers no protection at all. Not ideal with hardcover books. Annoyingly they did trial some really good cardboard boxes that were a perfect fit but had extra cardboard around the corners to protect the spots most ofrten damaged, unfortunately it was only used for a few months. Hopefully Conquest will be in a larger box with extra filling.
Shame it was such a pain to cancel, for me it only took an email and had a reply with 12 hours confirming both subscriptions were cancelled.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I am hearing that the magazine is now listed in the W H Smiths database and could come as early as Tuesday.
Counter-anecdote; I cancelled my subscription to the legends collection thing on the hatchette website and it processed immediately, I had no further deliveries and no further money was taken. Maybe it was after MrDwhitey's trouble and they made an effort to sort their act out, or maybe it was before and they've gotten worse since, but either way my experience was fine.
It's dakka and no one has ever had anything go right for them, so don't worry about anecdotes.
I plan on unboxing these on my channel and doing build along and paint along and hopefully play along when I sort my workshop out in the next two months.
It'll be interesting to do a project with a definite beginning, middle and end.
I plan on doing the big boy marines as Lamenters and the Deathguard as classic Deathguard rather than my existing scheme that is much closer to heresy era.
Well I had a subscription reply saying how they’ll be taking payment and how issues will arrive etc. you get a subscriber number and such.
I’m guessing 300+ people have taken it out judging by my sub number
Aeneades wrote: They seem to alternate packaging between massive parcel way too big for the book with no extra padding so that it gets damaged or exactly the right sized box but waffer thin cardboard so offers no protection at all. Not ideal with hardcover books. Annoyingly they did trial some really good cardboard boxes that were a perfect fit but had extra cardboard around the corners to protect the spots most ofrten damaged, unfortunately it was only used for a few months. Hopefully Conquest will be in a larger box with extra filling.
Shame it was such a pain to cancel, for me it only took an email and had a reply with 12 hours confirming both subscriptions were cancelled.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I am hearing that the magazine is now listed in the W H Smiths database and could come as early as Tuesday.
Only really had one issue with their postal - and I think that was more due to the doofus Postie leaving it in the rain.
Other than deliveries with things like the bookends, all my Dredd and 2000ad issues came in packaging akin to that used by Amazon. I like to keep two or three knocking about, as they're quite useful for posting books out to others.
Hey, they found something to do with all those citadel paint handles.
Can't say that these are not popular. They're not very expensive, so I've seen people ordering 10 of them so they could batch-paint with them without changing the minis all the time. I bought one and like it, I'm getting more as well.
Was all excited when a big box from Hachette was on my door step when I got home from work as thought they had delivered in record time. Unfortunately it was just 2 issues of the 2000AD hardcover collection with replacement mug.
I have been keeping my eye out for this in Smiths too. Is anyone else struggling to find the latest WD too. Neither local smiths or Sainsbury's seem to have it - and I have tried a couple of each shop
I've justed called to cancel my subscription before anything arrived. I emailed several times about the paint pot sizes and had no answer and when I called up the guy said they're the smaller tester pots as I thought they probably where. I hope I'm wrong for anyone who is getting the magazine, please share when you received it.
I think that this may still be on a trial release as those who have picked up copies appear to be in the north east (Yorkshire is key area for these trial releases). This would explain why they have the survey on the website as well asking if you would pay extra each month for terrain, etc.
Those who have signed up on the website should receive the first 4 issues still and hopefully enough interest is generated to call the trial a success and roll out the full release (may be a gap between isssue 4 and 5 those for subscribers). If this is rolled out to a full release then it will start to pop up in every shop at that time.
I've been dropping into WH Smith's in and around London when I pass one. Nothing in those so either people are snapping up the few copies that come in quickly or it is a limited geographical release for now.
Sounds like this is a limited release then which isn’t unusual. I have been trying in Smiths and several news agents in the south east and no look at all.
daedalus wrote: Hey, they found something to do with all those citadel paint handles.
You joke, but those things are never in stock at my local shop.
Is there something about them I'm missing? I've seen them around here. Never tons of them, but they never really look like they have any missing either.
It could be a regional thing. For example in Spain they are very popular, just like the GW tape measures. I know in many other places people just buy one much cheaper from a shop, but in Spain, to find a tape measure that it is on inches is very difficult, every single one is on centimeters. So like 90% of the people uses a GW official one.
Ikea sells them with cm and inch for 1€.
IKEA link? I can't find them.
NVM... just realized you're talking about measuring tapes and not paint handles. Every dollar store in the US has tape measures for a buck.
I picked up two of issue 1 and one of issue 2 in whs York yesterday. They were the last 2 of issue 1 but they had loads of 2. I can confirm the paint is full sized pots and the brush is the normal citadel one.
Yeah, I suspect trial phase as only reports from Yorkshire area (key trial area) but someone mentioned the main UK wide launch is next Tuesday. Seems a bit soon to me but still holding out hope.
Aeneades wrote: Yeah, I suspect trial phase as only reports from Yorkshire area (key trial area) but someone mentioned the main UK wide launch is next Tuesday. Seems a bit soon to me but still holding out hope.
I've not been able to find them anywhere on the shelves in Leeds. I emailed asking if they knew any stockists, but have had no reply.
I saw some reports from York and thought I'd missed the boat. Fingers crossed I haven't.
Aeneades wrote: Yeah, I suspect trial phase as only reports from Yorkshire area (key trial area) but someone mentioned the main UK wide launch is next Tuesday. Seems a bit soon to me but still holding out hope.
I've not been able to find them anywhere on the shelves in Leeds. I emailed asking if they knew any stockists, but have had no reply.
I saw some reports from York and thought I'd missed the boat. Fingers crossed I haven't.
Doesn’t seem like anyone has had replies to emails really. I guess calling is the way to get answers.
The website links to a survey still which I think would have been removed if they were ready for full rollout. As issue 2 has only just been released in Yorkshire I expect 2 more weeks of test issues with issue 4 being the final issue released. They will then review the sales and survey responses before deciding how (and if) to proceed later in the year. I wouldn’t expect to see it officially launched before May. Those who have signed up on the website should get the four trial issues as well.
The 20th release date was posted above and came from someone else on Facebook. I wonder if they have just been misinformed by the local shop and that’s actually when trial issue 3 is released.
Aeneades wrote: The website links to a survey still which I think would have been removed if they were ready for full rollout. As issue 2 has only just been released in Yorkshire I expect 2 more weeks of test issues with issue 4 being the final issue released. They will then review the sales and survey responses before deciding how (and if) to proceed later in the year. I wouldn’t expect to see it officially launched before May. Those who have signed up on the website should get the four trial issues as well.
The 20th release date was posted above and came from someone else on Facebook. I wonder if they have just been misinformed by the local shop and that’s actually when trial issue 3 is released.
All of Yorkshire? Or just North Yorkshire (I've seen York and Harrogate mentioned).
Maybe I was just slow for the Leeds copies, but I haven't seen it anywhere.
If it was fortnightly, I’d have taken the plunge. But not sure I can justify £36 on top of my regular spending.
That is exactly my problem. I've just started working again but £32 a month is a bit too far just for the odd paint or mini I might use. I literally might just see what individual ones come with what.
Aeneades wrote: The website links to a survey still which I think would have been removed if they were ready for full rollout. As issue 2 has only just been released in Yorkshire I expect 2 more weeks of test issues with issue 4 being the final issue released. They will then review the sales and survey responses before deciding how (and if) to proceed later in the year. I wouldn’t expect to see it officially launched before May. Those who have signed up on the website should get the four trial issues as well.
The 20th release date was posted above and came from someone else on Facebook. I wonder if they have just been misinformed by the local shop and that’s actually when trial issue 3 is released.
All of Yorkshire? Or just North Yorkshire (I've seen York and Harrogate mentioned).
Maybe I was just slow for the Leeds copies, but I haven't seen it anywhere.
I haven't seen it in Sheffield yet, but I'll be checking WH Smiths tomorrow for it.
Checked the main WH Smiths in town - no sign of it with the part works or the wargaming magazines. As someone mentioned, it might just be being trialled in North Yorkshire, rather than the whole of God's Own County.
Just looked on the WHSmith retailer app.. and its not there yet, so severely doubt a Tues countrywide launch, usually up for preorder a week or two before.. going to ring them on Monday and ask again, but the agent I spoke to on Thurs couldn't find it, but did recall a message about it, just not what the message entailed.. I'm guessing the preview launch.
They did the same thing with their Black Library book collection.
Guess they really want everyone to subscribe and not bother shipping to retailers. Haven't seen this anywhere yet. Not to worry, I just wanted to scab the cheap early issues, no interest in a pot luck ongoing. Sad for those who might want it though but won't get to try it cheap before committing.
JohnnyHell wrote: Guess they really want everyone to subscribe and not bother shipping to retailers. Haven't seen this anywhere yet. Not to worry, I just wanted to scab the cheap early issues, no interest in a pot luck ongoing. Sad for those who might want it though but won't get to try it cheap before committing.
I'm sure there will be a general retail release across the UK.
I think a trial release plus offering a sub early will allow the makers to judge how many issues they'll need for ongoing sales.
If enough people are into it for the full 80 issues, others will be able to benefit from the back issue sales that tend to accompany a store website so they can pick and choose. Just check the Hachette and Eaglemoss websites. All of the graphic novels are in there. Wait long enough and you could even get a sale price!
JohnnyHell wrote: Guess they really want everyone to subscribe and not bother shipping to retailers. Haven't seen this anywhere yet. Not to worry, I just wanted to scab the cheap early issues, no interest in a pot luck ongoing. Sad for those who might want it though but won't get to try it cheap before committing.
I'm sure there will be a general retail release across the UK.
I think a trial release plus offering a sub early will allow the makers to judge how many issues they'll need for ongoing sales.
If enough people are into it for the full 80 issues, others will be able to benefit from the back issue sales that tend to accompany a store website so they can pick and choose. Just check the Hachette and Eaglemoss websites. All of the graphic novels are in there. Wait long enough and you could even get a sale price!
Please note that Conquest is not yet showing on this website - which supports that it's in a trial phase. I'd expect an official launch later in the year (those that've subscribed already will end up with two sets of the trial issues, but only pay the once)
I don't even know why I'm excited for this, I mean it's a few easy build marines, and I don't even like marines... but I'm sitting here going "There has to be an update today! Come on!!!".
Something magical about part works. Maybe I should finish off building the last 30 issues of my R2D2 collection that's sitting in a box
ritualnet wrote: I don't even know why I'm excited for this, I mean it's a few easy build marines, and I don't even like marines... but I'm sitting here going "There has to be an update today! Come on!!!".
Something magical about part works. Maybe I should finish off building the last 30 issues of my R2D2 collection that's sitting in a box
The relative excitement of not knowing what you are going to receive.
If it's like Battle Games in Middle Earth, some issues could be scenario based.
Pure conjecture but something like issue 20 coming with the sprue of easy build Cadians and the scenario being that your Intercessors have to rescue them from the Death Guard.
I'm relatively comfortable with 32 quid every month for a couple of months at least. As the issues go on, they could start introducing the different types of brush for GW's paint system.
The local GW manager said today it's likely it'll run it's full trial period in North Yorkshire before a nationwide release. He also said GW stores wouldn't be carrying the publication.
Has the 3rd issue come out in North Yorkshire yet?
Spoke to a guy in WHSmiths, he was aware of it but said when he had queried it it's Northern area only and whilst it should be on the toll system it's not expected to be stocked outside of that area at this time.
When I have been in trials before they usually only send the web orders after all 4 test issues have been released in stores. I know that 2 has been available for a few weeks but seen any confirmation on issue 3 being available yet.
Thank you for subscribing to Warhammer 40,000: Conquest.
We would like to inform you that we have paused the publication of this title but we are hoping to launch the collection nationally in the near future.
We will be sure to keep you informed of any developments via email, and if we do launch the collection nationally we will send you the first 3 issues of the collection for free as a thank you for supporting Warhammer 40,000: Conquest from the beginning.
Please rest assured that your account has not been charged at all. If you’d like any more information please contact us via one of the methods above.
Kind regards Hachette Partworks Ltd.
(I subscribed early on, and haven't received anything)
Nultaar wrote: Yep just got the same email, looks like their super limited releqase to one or two places in Yorkshire didn't generate the intreste they wanted.
To me it sounds like it did generate enough interest and will now be released nationwide. They just are not bothering to send the trial issues to internet subscribers but will instead send them 3 issues for free when it does launch properly later in the year.
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ritualnet wrote: "We really want to test this, as we think people based in populated cities will love this. Where should we release it?"
"I dunno, which place has the least amount of people in, that has no real interest in this hobby?"
"Hmmmm good idea!"
They always tend to release trials in the north east as it’s a tough market and if they do well there then they should do well nationwide.
Nultaar wrote: Yep just got the same email, looks like their super limited releqase to one or two places in Yorkshire didn't generate the intreste they wanted.
This is pretty much word for word the email they sent to people for the Transformers Ultimate Generation 1 Collection series they published, which was released nationally shortly after a similar four issue trial for what it's worth.
Hopefully the delay won’t be too long and it will be easy for those who have already signed up to upgrade to a premium subscription if they offer one (the question and answer system says that they may offer subscription option where pay £1 extra an issue but get sent larger models or scenery every so often).
Yeah I just got the same email; a big ‘if’ in there....hopefully this roles out either soon or long enough that I have forgotten and get a cool surprise package in the post.
I’m guessing this down to demand or the title being “Conquest” and there being some copyright issue.
3 issues free is a nice touch but I would have preferred the full price ones for free, still we’ll see if that happens!
notprop wrote: I’m guessing this down to demand or the title being “Conquest” and there being some copyright issue.
This was always a trial release and never going to make it passed issue 4 (surprised they stopped at 3 to be honest as they advertised all four and that would have completed the intro boxset). Sounds like there was a lot of demand which is why they are planning to launch the full title in the near future and can’t see Conquest being an issue at all.
notprop wrote: Yeah I just got the same email; a big ‘if’ in there....hopefully this roles out either soon or long enough that I have forgotten and get a cool surprise package in the post.
I’m guessing this down to demand or the title being “Conquest” and there being some copyright issue.
3 issues free is a nice touch but I would have preferred the full price ones for free, still we’ll see if that happens!
Definitely not a copyright issue in my opinion, it’s not like they planned all this without GW knowing the situation and such.
It is a classic Hachette thing to pause and relaunch.
So demand is the one I think.
3 issues and there’s already a free issue for subscribing (which curiously said your second delivery, but then everywhere else was saying issue 3. So I wonder if we would just get all four for free).
Cool surprise for me I think unless they email before sending (I’d imagine they won’t as they want people to stick with it an email might make you think oh yeah this, I’ll cancel).
Now I’ll stop browsing forums for info on it and just forget about it.
Kind of wish I’d taken out a few subscriptions if we are getting the starter ones free
notprop wrote: I’m guessing this down to demand or the title being “Conquest” and there being some copyright issue.
This was always a trial release and never going to make it passed issue 4 (surprised they stopped at 3 to be honest as they advertised all four and that would have completed the intro boxset). Sounds like there was a lot of demand which is why they are planning to launch the full title in the near future and can’t see Conquest being an issue at all.
notprop wrote: I’m guessing this down to demand or the title being “Conquest” and there being some copyright issue.
This was always a trial release and never going to make it passed issue 4 (surprised they stopped at 3 to be honest as they advertised all four and that would have completed the intro boxset). Sounds like there was a lot of demand which is why they are planning to launch the full title in the near future and can’t see Conquest being an issue at all.
Of course I obviously also meant licensing when I typed copyright.
Fantasy Flight Games lost the licence for Warhammer Games last year or maybe the year before so the Conquest card game was cancelled then. All rights to use the Warhammer 40k Conquest name would have reverted to Games Workshop.
This new product most likely couldn’t use any of the rules developed by Fantasy Flight (which it wouldn’t do as that is a card game) but Games Workshop are fully entitled to reuse the name.
GW aren’t stupid anyway, they wouldn’t let Hachette choose that name and print several copies of the magazine if they weren’t sure it could be used (I wouldn’t be surprised if they chose the name for them - and to fully take that name back as it were).
It means they sold enough in the toughest market in the UK to go national, likely in May. Bear in mind there's been no TV advertising or indeed any advertising at all and they still picked up a large number of subscribers.
So there is someone at GW frantically writing more issues.
An interesting picture from the back of issue 4. If issue 5 ever appears you will get a new space marine hero. I doubt it is exclusive so it begs the question of when it will see general release. I really hope this goes world wide. I would definitely get a subscription. I doubt it ever will though.
Interesting that they are introducing new character models so soon rather than reusing some of the existing ones but a good way to get regular players to pick up certain issues if these models remain exclusive to the magazine for at least a few months.
Rodzaju wrote: Is that one of the models from the Japanese Heroes series?
Nope. Unless it’s the limited edition captain which I haven’t seen a picture off but I don’t believe it is.
It is not. The heroes series is all old school marines. This is a primaris. It could be from series two which we haven't seen yet, but the hint suggested old school terminators.
I have found a photo of the Japanese captain, definitely not that model either.
The trouble with the Japanese collection is that they are slightly bigger than a regular marine but significantly smaller than the Primaris marines from issues 1 and 3. I think they will want to be consistent with the marine size for the moment at least.
Aeneades wrote: Several months between trial and full release is the norm. I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see anything until July or August (or even later).
Indeed.
I’ve signed up for updates. Just hoping the Dredd Megacollection draws to a close (4 more months to go) before this kicks in,
Aeneades wrote: Several months between trial and full release is the norm. I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see anything until July or August (or even later).
Ah cool, cheers. I've never bought their publications before so wasn't sure.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I mean, the website is still up and taking registration of interest. If it’s been cancelled, I’d imagine that would’ve been taken down by now
The company that can maintain a global supply chain of their goods.
Where are people getting the rumours from here? I’m not having a pop at peeps in this thread, you’re just reporting, but I do wonder who is making the original claims
That one was from a couple of people at a FLGS (one of which was a staff member, FWIW). They claimed that GW's production capacity was still maxed out (look at how much stuff is still "Temporarily out of stock") and they hadn't accounted for how much stock Hachette actually wanted.
That one was from a couple of people at a FLGS (one of which was a staff member, FWIW). They claimed that GW's production capacity was still maxed out (look at how much stuff is still "Temporarily out of stock") and they hadn't accounted for how much stock Hachette actually wanted.
IF that is the case, could it be the supply of paints that would cause more of a problem. Some of those who managed to get a trial issue stated it was the full size pots as per the publicity photos.
Anyhoo, if there is normally a couple of months between trial and the main run, there would be some lead in time to produce more figures/ paints.
I'm still looking forward to it especially if, as per the preview for issue 5, you could end up with character figures for £7.99.
Would be disappointing if it doesn’t go ahead as it’s a great way to get new people into the hobby and I enjoy the graphic novel partworks so a gaming partworks also appeals to me.
I don’t know how a staff member in an FLGS would know anything about this. It’s not even the target store - rather WHSmiths and newsagents.
The website said all along what was going to be provided in the magazines.
Just imagine if GW ‘didn’t know’ what was expected of them. There will have been huge discussions between the two companies before undertaking the print and packaging of the trial, let alone the whole thing.
The source does sound like it's not terribly believable,
but I could certainly see GW imagining they'd have solved their production bottleneck by now, but finding they haven't
(either because they still haven't been able to get the additional power supply to the site to run more machines, or because they're just selling so much more stuff that even when they've boosted production they still find it isn't enough to cover demand)
Herbington wrote: Weren't the models from the First Strike starter set anyway? You'd assume they had a decent supply of them
I imagine they get the first x issues created and ready, so that there's no delays, and then while they are sending out the first month or so's issues, they can be creating the next batch.
We have also been working on some new initiatives to help introduce people to Warhammer:
• Space Marine Heroes - Our push off the frame, push fit miniatures, sold as blind collectibles, placed in over 250 new outlets
in Japan. The series launches globally later this year along with series 2 in Japan.
• Partworks - We learnt a great deal from the Battle Games in Middle-earth partwork launched back in 2002. And some of
those lessons were painful! Now though, I think we are in the best position we’ve ever been to have another go.
‘Warhammer 40,000 Conquest’, a serialised product, will launch this summer.
We have also been working on some new initiatives to help introduce people to Warhammer:
• Space Marine Heroes - Our push off the frame, push fit miniatures, sold as blind collectibles, placed in over 250 new outlets
in Japan. The series launches globally later this year along with series 2 in Japan.
• Partworks - We learnt a great deal from the Battle Games in Middle-earth partwork launched back in 2002. And some of
those lessons were painful! Now though, I think we are in the best position we’ve ever been to have another go.
‘Warhammer 40,000 Conquest’, a serialised product, will launch this summer.
Bold is mine.
That ties in nicely with the UK Forbidden Planet site listing the start date as 1st September!
So just for clarification. The marine heroes are getting a world-wide release, the conquest partworks isn't?
That Middle Earth partwork from '02 was my initial steps into this hobby. It was great value for money and was great in general for a newbie. I'd be interested in picking up this one too just for the hell of it if it were available.
Snrub wrote: So just for clarification. The marine heroes are getting a world-wide release, the conquest partworks isn't?
That Middle Earth partwork from '02 was my initial steps into this hobby. It was great value for money and was great in general for a newbie. I'd be interested in picking up this one too just for the hell of it if it were available.
At the moment, no.
But, Hachette have previously made stuff available in U.K., EU and Australia/New Zealand.
Oz and NZ got the Dredd Megacollection, albeit a few months after the U.K. and EU. (Five, to be more precise)
Not sure what the criteria is for such a release, but at least it seems possible.
Pleased I signed up for this early as I received an email saying my first 3 issues would be free for being a supporter. I’ve ordered a couple of extra first issues as well because who can’t use marines, black paint and an extra brush, eh?
However, I’m a bit puzzled what will be included in future issues. I have presumed it will be models each time but they will rapidly run out of easy build ones. Aggressors? A redemptor split over multiple issues? A blight hauler? Then what? Do you think they have more easy build models in the works? Will they start putting bits of terrain on the cover instead?
judgedoug wrote: Will the serialized 40k thing be UK only or will it include the USA?
When it was first trialled it was listed as UK only. Not sure if that has changed. Would be nice if it did and would help them spread the cost of developing new easy build models.
WobblyGoblin wrote: Pleased I signed up for this early as I received an email saying my first 3 issues would be free for being a supporter. I’ve ordered a couple of extra first issues as well because who can’t use marines, black paint and an extra brush, eh?
However, I’m a bit puzzled what will be included in future issues. I have presumed it will be models each time but they will rapidly run out of easy build ones. Aggressors? A redemptor split over multiple issues? A blight hauler? Then what? Do you think they have more easy build models in the works? Will they start putting bits of terrain on the cover instead?
I think we'll see some new models. The preview for the unreleased Issue 5 had a Primaries Ultramarine Lieutenant an (as yet) unreleased model.
Forbidden planet.com has about 12 issues listed starting September 1st , though if you subscribed I don't see any delivery until October as the shipments are in 4 issue groups according to the Hachette website
Will there be any way to order individual issues of this online without having to deal with sclaperscum on ebay? I've no interest in subscribing for a bunch of models I won't use and what you assume will be sub-WD beginner level painting tips, but if they're going to put out unique new models through this it'll be annoying if there's no legit way to get hold of them.
Yodhrin wrote: Will there be any way to order individual issues of this online without having to deal with sclaperscum on ebay? I've no interest in subscribing for a bunch of models I won't use and what you assume will be sub-WD beginner level painting tips, but if they're going to put out unique new models through this it'll be annoying if there's no legit way to get hold of them.
The Dredd, 2000AD and Black Library collections are available individually, sometimes at a sale price! Check the Hachette website to see if magazine partworks are available as individual back issues.
I've just ordered some extra issues from Forbidden Planet. They might deliver to Europe, otherwise myself or one of the other Brits could potentially organise something if they come out with something killer.
Ah so even several issues in if there’s a good issue with a model and a paint I want, then Forbidden Planet I can just grab it as it’s out?
I was worrying it’d be a subscribe if you want stuff and no longer in shops after 4 or 5, like a lot of partworks.
If like others you’re mainly interested in the Exclusives, rather than the whole set, you’ll want the link just above to see what’s coming ‘next issue’, and then Hachette’s main website to order singles and/or back issues.
We are delighted to let you know that on the 29th of August Warhammer 40,000: Conquest will be launching nationally!
As a valued test subscriber, we will be re-activating your subscription from issue 1 and will be sending you the first 3 issues free of charge. This means that you don't need to subscribe again once the new website is live.
Waiting for details of if they have a premium subscription, and if so, what benefits this has (they mentioned possibilities of terrain or exclusive models in the questionnaire).
Got the e-mail as well, not sure if I'm going to stick with it long term (as I already have two ongoing partwork subs and there are another couple of them probably starting soon that also look interesting), but figure I'll at least get the 3 free issues and see what the mag is like before deciding. At least this is one where even if you cancel part way through the stuff you get is still useful, unlike the ones where you build something over so many issues.
Will be interested to see if the paints are still the full paint pots or whether that was just for the trial run to avoid the need to have to make up special batches of paint in a different pot, as that definitely helps towards the value.
phillv85 wrote: I got my mail as well. I won't be pleased if the paints end up as the 3ml mini pots after signing up with them advertising full sized pots.
I assume they'll start to re-advertise the product. If things have changed from the trial run, we'll see it then. Enough time to cancel if we're not happy.
Got my Email saying I'll have 3 free issues starting 29th. I'm unreasonably pleased by this good news, i don't often get free stuff (that I actually want) I can't wait!
Yeah happy with the free issues, and the ability to seemingly buy single issues down the road if I cancel (depends what further issues have - no need for Primaris, I do have Deathguard but the models so far are repeats for me. Will take them anyway though ☺️).
JWBS wrote: Got my Email saying I'll have 3 free issues starting 29th. I'm unreasonably pleased by this good news, i don't often get free stuff (that I actually want) I can't wait!
Same here, put a real smile on my miserable face. It's all about the little victories
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I'm a bit surprised that the 'launch' is at such short notice (only 9 days) since that doesn't seem to give retailers much notice to put in orders
Automatically Appended Next Post: Unless I guess the 'launch' is actually the pre-order date and the first issue being delivered is a month later
This has been on the pre-order system available for retailers for 3-4 weeks now, this is just the announcement to the consumers that it will be available.
" Over the course of the series, subscribers will receive all of the models, tools, paints and paintbrushes you require to create two sizeable armies – Space Marines and Death Guard – that are ready to take to the battlefields of the 41st Millennium. "
Looks like there will only be SM and DG models, too bad I don't collect those :(
If you did collect SM and DG models then chances are you would already have a full army and wouldn't need to collect Conquest, so not collecting those armies previously means the magazine is perfect for you
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I'm a bit surprised that the 'launch' is at such short notice (only 9 days) since that doesn't seem to give retailers much notice to put in orders
Automatically Appended Next Post: Unless I guess the 'launch' is actually the pre-order date and the first issue being delivered is a month later
This has been on the pre-order system available for retailers for 3-4 weeks now, this is just the announcement to the consumers that it will be available.
Hmm, I was in WH Smiths at the weekend and they didn't have it on their system, and i'd expect them too, especially as the did get it during the trial (for stores in the trial location)
Just for everyone too lazy to looks at the website they put up a picture of the complete collection you'll have at the end:
I'm pretty intrigued! The old lord of the rings magazine really got me into the hobby back in the day, I'll at least do the first month to get the free stuff, and I need a bit of reinforcements for my armies anyway. Looks like it contains everything from Dark Imperium but I wonder how they'll do the tanks and bigger things. Maybe over 4 mags since you get 4 at once(says they're delivered once a month)?
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I'm a bit surprised that the 'launch' is at such short notice (only 9 days) since that doesn't seem to give retailers much notice to put in orders
Automatically Appended Next Post: Unless I guess the 'launch' is actually the pre-order date and the first issue being delivered is a month later
This has been on the pre-order system available for retailers for 3-4 weeks now, this is just the announcement to the consumers that it will be available.
Hmm, I was in WH Smiths at the weekend and they didn't have it on their system, and i'd expect them too, especially as the did get it during the trial (for stores in the trial location)
I work at smiths. Its on the system as "warhammer 40000 partwork" and the trial run was on under "warhammer 40000 partwork test". Ask them to do a product search for warhammer and it'll come up.
H.B.M.C. wrote: So if I just wanted, say, the Spawn, could I order the "Spawn" issue?
I don't know if you can order it like that from the website as they take payments monthly the ship 4 at once. I presume you'll be able to pick these up in book stores or wherever people usually get these subscription mags though right?
Aeneades wrote: They have added details of the premium upgrade as well now, it’s more game related components and boards rather than models or scenery.
So...I pay £1.50 extra per issue in order to get some undefined non-model related reward from Issues 15-18? Meaning I'm actually paying about £25 for it? That's terribly vague and potentially ill-priced.
Aeneades wrote: They have added details of the premium upgrade as well now, it’s more game related components and boards rather than models or scenery.
So...I pay £1.50 extra per issue in order to get some undefined non-model related reward from Issues 15-18? Meaning I'm actually paying about £25 for it? That's terribly vague and potentially ill-priced.
Yep! It’s a recent thing they started to offer in last couple of years, often it’s additional large books or art prints however the contents are advertised in advance. This is so nondescript that they could offer extra models / terrain or it could just be some cards and a cheap folding mat which you wouldn’t pay £5 for usually. I much prefer the other option they sometimes offer instead where they offer them as special issues every so often and you decide at the time if you want them or not rather than commit at the outset.
Looks like it's still the full size paint pots then, or at least, they're still showing them on the website (annoyingly, I need to pick up a pot of Macragge Blue for a project I want to work on next week, but will get a pot when my free issues turn up).
Haven't tried to work out how the price stacks up, but the total cost of approx. £624 (I think) doesn't sound a bad price for the volume of stuff shown in the image.
Not sure about the premium subscription, though I'm guessing what's in the picture is just one of the four sets that you get, so maybe worth the £30 it costs for that.
I'd imagine that some of the more sprue-intensive kits (the Mechanicus terrain, the plague mortar, the silly floating tank with too many guns) would be across multiple issues.
I mean, that one Sector Mechanicus piece they've got there is 3 sprues. An single Munitorum crate is 1 sprue, and there are three of them there.
Primaris Space Marines
Dark Imperium full
Apoth
Captain
Chaplain
Librarian
Redemptor
Repulsor
3 Aggressors
6 Reivers
5 Intercessors
drawing sword from scabbard guy??
Non-Primaris
BaC chaplain/termie captain
5 sniper scouts
5 regular scouts
3 bikes
1 attack bike
1 land speeder
Were this available to us Aussies, i'd be a fair bargain!
The FAQ says 80 issues in total. 80 x 7.99 = 640GBP for the full run. At the current exchange rate that's $1124.48AUD
To buy all these kits individually (and assuming it's the easy-2-build kits for some of the primaris guys), Total cost of minis bought individually = $2349AUD approx. This is also assuming there wont be some arbitrary Australia tax applied.
All that doesn't take into account the freebies + paints you get. Which wont tack on a huge cost, but aren't cheap in their own rights.
Two full armies and terrain for not quite half price.
Even if you weren't interested in one or the other armies, that's hard to pass up. If this comes down under, I'll certainly be signing up.
Thats the thing, I love the look of this and I signed up originally so I'll have the 3 issues for free, but do I need this?
I've already got the primaris side of Dark Imperium unbuilt. So I'll end up with double that, plus the extras.
It's interesting that cultists and spawn are in, that will be fun, I've never picked up the spawn kits. I have some cultists, but not done much with them.
I wonder after 80 issues how many DG/Primaris armies will be out there, and how cheap you'll be able to get it all (These part work companies often do sales, to blow out old stock, so you could end up with these at £1 or so an issue later on!)
I wonder if they'll provide a pot of paint or two each week as well? This could turn out to be incredible value. I've already ordered enough issues 1 extras that I'll probably never need another pot of Abaddon Black.
phillv85 wrote: I wonder if they'll provide a pot of paint or two each week as well? This could turn out to be incredible value. I've already ordered enough issues 1 extras that I'll probably never need another pot of Abaddon Black.
I imagine the paints will gradually disappear as the release goes on and people have all the paints they need, probably as the larger sprues start being included. Maybe with the occasional additional paint being included to tie in with the more advanced techniques as they appear in the painting guide, I seem to remember that was the case with BGIME.
I've just gone for the standard subscription, don't fancy those extra bits with the premium.
I'll be keeping the primaris/marines and the terrain, but selling the Death Guard parts on to a chap in my local gaming group. Still, decent value with paint and extra bits!
I am impressed by the complete collection, I already have a sizeable Death Guard collection but will gladly add bits from the Vanilla marines to my Deathwatch and make a home brew chapter for the bits that do not fit in.
£32 odd a month is a reasonable investment for a bit of hobby joy every month.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I'm a bit surprised that the 'launch' is at such short notice (only 9 days) since that doesn't seem to give retailers much notice to put in orders
Automatically Appended Next Post: Unless I guess the 'launch' is actually the pre-order date and the first issue being delivered is a month later
This has been on the pre-order system available for retailers for 3-4 weeks now, this is just the announcement to the consumers that it will be available.
Hmm, I was in WH Smiths at the weekend and they didn't have it on their system, and i'd expect them too, especially as the did get it during the trial (for stores in the trial location)
I work at smiths. Its on the system as "warhammer 40000 partwork" and the trial run was on under "warhammer 40000 partwork test". Ask them to do a product search for warhammer and it'll come up.
Thanks for that I'll poke them tomorrow and see if they can find it with the extra info
I was thinking they’d probably do AoS later down the line, maybe come back with another Middle Earth as that’s being relaunched as a game too..
It is good to see that full picture, to know where we are heading as before it was so unclear it could have been anything.
I think you can split that picture into 80 pretty much.
Though people need to bear in mind not every issue has miniatures (perhaps for subscribers that’s because 2-4 issues would creat one kit - but then how would they do it for those who buy single issues..)
They said themselves ‘with most issues having new miniatures’
The deluxe version, really would depend on what’s in those other boxes, as the first doesn’t install excitement. As long as the ‘big picture’ is what we get in the standard, not deluxe, then I’m fine.
I agree the paints will probably fall off down the line, which is a shame, as that’s adding good value.
Perhaps halfway another pot of certain colours, as well as all stuff not needed yet but down the line. (Oh and technicals..)
I guess I’ll run my subscription down till at least the 7th delivery to see all the free gifts come, as why not. Though that’s still £184 Of magazines by then, so why not go the whole way once I’m that invested..
I’ve got the first ones free like the others here, so to me that’s looking at your first delivery being 1-4, 4 ETB’s, brush, dice, 6 paints, AND the modelling kit (it said included in first delivery..)
I also grabbed some more of issue 1 for the extra paints, and I suppose models, from the newsstand website. £7 for 3x issue 1 wasn’t bad.
Anyone notice that the FAQ states when the new 'exclusive' miniature is released? Issue 5
"Is any of the content in this collection new?
Games Workshop have created a brand-new Space Marine army for this collection. The Silver Templars will have their own unique colour schemes, armour markings and history which will be developed and expanded with each new issue. There is also an exclusive new miniature included with Issue 05."
ResidentSteve wrote: Anyone notice that the FAQ states when the new 'exclusive' miniature is released? Issue 5
"Is any of the content in this collection new?
Games Workshop have created a brand-new Space Marine army for this collection. The Silver Templars will have their own unique colour schemes, armour markings and history which will be developed and expanded with each new issue. There is also an exclusive new miniature included with Issue 05."
Yeah there’s a picture of him on here somewhere, those that got the trial had a picture at the back of issue 4.
He’s probably in that tiny scale whole army view somewhere - quality isn’t great to look though.
Also to add to what I was saying before, those of us getting free issues are really only saving £6 when subscribing, as issues 1 & 2 were £6, issue 3 was free in delivery two (3-6 for £24).
Still it’s good to get something!
I just don’t know what to do with several of the models I don’t want, just use to paint up for fun (like I need off topic things to paint from my armies).
Plague marines I’m all set for my DG, now once we get to some of the stuff in that picture, then we will be fine..
Primaris I have none, but this is in effect a 5th 40k army for me if so..
My study is already full and I’m not sure my wife will let me spill out of there with models..
The end result looks impressive. Unfortunately, I think I have a feeling that 100% is going to be strictly UK only. I also have a sick feeling that we Americans will get a magazine and a bookmark, if that....
Yeah, I'd happily buy the unique Lieutenant and maybe the Primaris Chaplain & Apothecary at 8 quid each, but those issues are likely to vanish rapidly especially if the places doing singles don't limit purchases per-customer(and in a way that can't be easily circumvented, like payment method and address, rather than just per-transaction) once the scalperscum get wind of this. Hopefully I remember to keep checking and get one ordered in time.
Forbidden Planet have pre orders for the first 12 issues now. Do they ship to Europe? If not, I'm sure someone could stick an order in for you and forward it. I'll do it myself if you're stuck, although I'm still pretty new here so understand if you want a more established member to grab it for you.
The previous easy build revell 40k kits did indeed suggest you paint into bare plastic, the idea was to use the paint for colour details, like black bolters etc Fact they've used coloured plastic suggests that's the case this time. Even so if the big picture is accurate I think this is an ambitious product and the fact they've got even one exclusive suggests they think it's going to sell.
As a heads up, I got the promised e-mail for trial run subscribers today about updating payment information, but was unable to link my subscription to my online account. I phoned customer services and they said that this wouldn't actually be possible until the 29th when the magazine goes on sale.
So figured this might save some of you a few minutes and a phone call (unless customer services were incorrect).
Annoyingly I got that email after having opened out another subscription. Obviously I only want the one, are they now going to try and send me two? I am very confused.
Cheers Tavis, was literally about to ring and thought I would just check here first to see what people were saying.
I hope that doesn’t mean we get ours late though? Shouldn’t as our first delivery is free anyway..
ListenToMeWarriors wrote: Annoyingly I got that email after having opened out another subscription. Obviously I only want the one, are they now going to try and send me two? I am very confused.
You will only pay once unless you link your original one to a set of bank details.
But the one you are paying for will be standard not with the first one free (that’s for existing subscribers, which you are now not).
I would ring and explain/cancel the new one you just took out.
Did you not get the email last week saying you’d get free bits for being loyal, and that an email (this one) will follow with how to set up payment details again?
2 emails total, to get all the info we needed to resub.
On the one hand it gives some paints and tools and guides and might mean that I finally get some actual painting done on models that I don't actually "need/want" for my armies (thus mistakes are not an issue).
On the other its still a decent chunk of money each month and I don't "need" the stuff as such.
It is a really neat idea and I hope it works well! That it basically gives you two full armies and a table full of terrain after around 2 years for a fairly steep discount on the normal purchase price is a great thing
Another part of me is kind of wondering if they'll do a sigmar version