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Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 16:02:29


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Hooray and hurrah! The follow up to the frankly excellent Rebels has been announced

Reeeead all abaaaaaaht it

Really quite looking forward to this.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 16:28:59


Post by: LunarSol


Certainly curious to see how it turns out.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 16:53:00


Post by: Yodhrin


Mmmmeh? I'll give it a look, but Sequel stuff isn't really my bag, the "anime inspired" thing isn't appealing, and TBH I was hoping they'd get to pick up with Sabine and Ahsoka searching for Ezra as a "frame" for exploring the IMO much more interesting period post-Endor.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 17:05:58


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’d be very surprised if that plot doesn’t feature here in some capacity.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 18:43:05


Post by: LunarSol


Likely it will be similar to Rebels. New cast with some movie cameos that allow them to tell stories about the popular characters from the last series with less plot armor.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 19:05:47


Post by: Turnip Jedi


Looks like could be fun

PS dear Disney please just stop with the Phasma, nobody cares


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 19:13:48


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


So what are the chances that we not only see Sabine and Asohka, but also Kanan and Hera's son.

Also I agree with Turnip, they really need to stop with Phasma.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 19:23:03


Post by: Turnip Jedi


Remember I dislike Phasma cos I'm a misogynist lady hater, those ladycentric films I liked liked Rogue One, Wonder Woman or Charlize Theron doing a thing was freakv outliers


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 19:33:18


Post by: ScarletRose


Maybe I'm missing something on the Phasma hate - to me it's like hating General Veers, she was just sorta in the movie.

I actually wouldn't mind her character being fleshed out some more if it's done decently.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 19:36:03


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Aaaaaaaaand no more negativity, especially when it’s displaying a possible persecution complex.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 19:53:22


Post by: Turnip Jedi


I'll let up if she is shown as having a shred of complexity or indeed actually being good at her job as over the two new films all the FO personnel appear to be comically inept video game baddies

But on the upside might mean some strange new X-Wing ships as many of the recent good ships came from Rebels


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 19:56:44


Post by: ZebioLizard2


 ScarletRose wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something on the Phasma hate - to me it's like hating General Veers, she was just sorta in the movie.

I actually wouldn't mind her character being fleshed out some more if it's done decently.
I suppose one of the big things is how hyped she is despite basically being on par with General Veers. Imagine if Veers got hyped up through interviews, comments, marketing, and other such things and was basically made a major figurehead despite basically being as he is.

Which is one of the reasons for the hype backlash.. She doesn't really do much.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 20:04:37


Post by: Azreal13


Well, getting the actors to reprise their roles in voice form is a positive but..

 Yodhrin wrote:
I was hoping they'd get to pick up with Sabine and Ahsoka searching for Ezra as a "frame" for exploring the IMO much more interesting period post-Endor.


This.

I figured this was a slam dunk where they were going next after the Rebels finale, and I was ok with that. I'm a lot less interested in pre-TFA than I am in post ROTJ.


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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 ScarletRose wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something on the Phasma hate - to me it's like hating General Veers, she was just sorta in the movie.

I actually wouldn't mind her character being fleshed out some more if it's done decently.
I suppose one of the big things is how hyped she is despite basically being on par with General Veers. Imagine if Veers got hyped up through interviews, comments, marketing, and other such things and was basically made a major figurehead despite basically being as he is.

Which is one of the reasons for the hype backlash.. She doesn't really do much.


She's essentially Darth Maul, but without even that much impact on the story.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 20:11:41


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 ScarletRose wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something on the Phasma hate - to me it's like hating General Veers, she was just sorta in the movie.

I actually wouldn't mind her character being fleshed out some more if it's done decently.
I suppose one of the big things is how hyped she is despite basically being on par with General Veers. Imagine if Veers got hyped up through interviews, comments, marketing, and other such things and was basically made a major figurehead despite basically being as he is.

Which is one of the reasons for the hype backlash.. She doesn't really do much.


Come on everyone, lets be fair to Veers. He was competent in ESB, shown as an effective and capable Combat Leader and I at least got the impression he was somewhat respected by Vader, unlike many of the Naval Officers.

Phasma walked around a bunch? Betrayed everything we were led to understand she stood for in order to save her own skin and then got thrown in a hole. Then some how came back, to be thrown in a hole because rather than execute the Spies (and they were technically spies, being members of the Resistance military caught in First Order Uniforms).


Speaking of Kanan and Hera's son, he could be a main character. Its stated he takes after his mother in the piloting department, and being older than Poe he could lead the Recon Squadron.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 22:04:32


Post by: GoatboyBeta


With Filoni in charge its a safe bet that Ahsoka and some of the Rebels crew will appear in some form. I'm guessing Poe and Phasma will not be regular characters and may only show up in the opening episodes. Given the fairly short time frame covered by the sequel episodes so far, could we see more overlap between the Resistance show and the movies in its later seasons?



Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 22:08:05


Post by: Vulcan


So... they bring back the strong and beloved female character Asoka just in time to end the show, and instead concentrate on a bunch of fighter jocks?

Now tell me again how I'm somehow the one who can't handle a strong female character....


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/26 22:19:25


Post by: Yodhrin


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’d be very surprised if that plot doesn’t feature here in some capacity.


How though? The show is Resistance vs First Order, probably around the same kind of "just pre-VII" period as the Resurrection arc of the BF2 singleplayer campaign, which sees Iden Versio kicking ass as a grey-haired older lady with a fully grown young adult daughter, 20+ years will have gone by since Sabine and Ahsoka set out. Also, like I said, the context is important - that story is interesting, but it's not as interesting as seeing what the galaxy was like post-Endor, in the same way that one of the big appeals of Rebels was seeing the pre-ANH Empire and how the Rebellion came into being. If they go into it this far into the future...eh.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 05:34:06


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Prominent mention of BB8 too... 'Beloved droid'

Ah, I'll still watch it but they do spend a lot of time talking about the movies and movie cast and not much on the characters we'll see most of the time.

But more Star Wars is always good.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 05:51:53


Post by: ingtaer


I am not holding my breath for this show, but am looking forward to seeing if we get some new toys for x-wing (T-80 X-Wing please). The intro page for the video shows something new already, like a cross between a Z and a Vaksai.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 06:25:57


Post by: ZebioLizard2


 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 ScarletRose wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something on the Phasma hate - to me it's like hating General Veers, she was just sorta in the movie.

I actually wouldn't mind her character being fleshed out some more if it's done decently.
I suppose one of the big things is how hyped she is despite basically being on par with General Veers. Imagine if Veers got hyped up through interviews, comments, marketing, and other such things and was basically made a major figurehead despite basically being as he is.

Which is one of the reasons for the hype backlash.. She doesn't really do much.


Come on everyone, lets be fair to Veers. He was competent in ESB, shown as an effective and capable Combat Leader and I at least got the impression he was somewhat respected by Vader, unlike many of the Naval Officers.

Phasma walked around a bunch? Betrayed everything we were led to understand she stood for in order to save her own skin and then got thrown in a hole. Then some how came back, to be thrown in a hole because rather than execute the Spies (and they were technically spies, being members of the Resistance military caught in First Order Uniforms).


Speaking of Kanan and Hera's son, he could be a main character. Its stated he takes after his mother in the piloting department, and being older than Poe he could lead the Recon Squadron.
The funny thing is they realized how it sounded and when it came time to do her backstory in the novels she's utterly Dark Eldar when it comes to her own survival, cowardice, and how willing she is to murder her way up the ranks while keeping her skin intact. After reading that it seems like there has not been anyone she has personally betrayed on some level.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 09:17:29


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Yodhrin wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’d be very surprised if that plot doesn’t feature here in some capacity.


How though? The show is Resistance vs First Order, probably around the same kind of "just pre-VII" period as the Resurrection arc of the BF2 singleplayer campaign, which sees Iden Versio kicking ass as a grey-haired older lady with a fully grown young adult daughter, 20+ years will have gone by since Sabine and Ahsoka set out. Also, like I said, the context is important - that story is interesting, but it's not as interesting as seeing what the galaxy was like post-Endor, in the same way that one of the big appeals of Rebels was seeing the pre-ANH Empire and how the Rebellion came into being. If they go into it this far into the future...eh.


Spoiler tags needed for this one, as it's info in the Aftermath trilogy.

Spoiler:
Essentially, the Imperial Remnant scooted off to Unknown Space - which also happens to be where Thrawn is from, according to the new Thrawn novel. It could well be that's where Ezra and Thrawn wound up.

The end of Rebels suggests it's Ahsoka and Sabine weren't on any official mission, but one of their own choosing.

If someone is spying on the First Order, it's likely we'll see Unknown Space - and therefore run into Sabine and Ahsoka.



Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 12:57:41


Post by: Yodhrin


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’d be very surprised if that plot doesn’t feature here in some capacity.


How though? The show is Resistance vs First Order, probably around the same kind of "just pre-VII" period as the Resurrection arc of the BF2 singleplayer campaign, which sees Iden Versio kicking ass as a grey-haired older lady with a fully grown young adult daughter, 20+ years will have gone by since Sabine and Ahsoka set out. Also, like I said, the context is important - that story is interesting, but it's not as interesting as seeing what the galaxy was like post-Endor, in the same way that one of the big appeals of Rebels was seeing the pre-ANH Empire and how the Rebellion came into being. If they go into it this far into the future...eh.


Spoiler tags needed for this one, as it's info in the Aftermath trilogy.

Spoiler:
Essentially, the Imperial Remnant scooted off to Unknown Space - which also happens to be where Thrawn is from, according to the new Thrawn novel. It could well be that's where Ezra and Thrawn wound up.

The end of Rebels suggests it's Ahsoka and Sabine weren't on any official mission, but one of their own choosing.

If someone is spying on the First Order, it's likely we'll see Unknown Space - and therefore run into Sabine and Ahsoka.



Spoiler:
But that's my point, either we will run into them & it will be a fairly direct continuation of their existing characters and plot, in which case it makes no sense because they'd have been out there for twenty years or more and surely in that time they'd have found Ezra or at least undergone some fairly major character development; or they'll appear in the show, but the writers will just skip over basically all the interesting "searching for Ezra as they navigate the post-Endor galaxy" stuff and depict them as having found Ezra and undergone all aforementioned character development, in which case there's not really much left to do with those characters that has any connection to their existing story, so why bother except name recognition? If it's the latter case, I'd expect like the sort of involvement Obi Wan, maybe Maul had in Rebels at the very most.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 14:13:08


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Well, it could turn out that they want to explore Sabine and Ahsoka's adventures in other media, such as comic books - or in a series yet to come. Possibly even a movie trilogy.

That they may or may not appear here doesn't necessarily change that.

I'd only be disappointed if they don't pick up on those threads at all, in any medium. You just can't leave long time fans hanging like that!

However, Dave Filoni has said that Ahsoka's design cues in that final scene do contain hints and secrets, so it seems likely there is some kind of plan there.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 14:36:21


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Azreal13 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
I was hoping they'd get to pick up with Sabine and Ahsoka searching for Ezra as a "frame" for exploring the IMO much more interesting period post-Endor.


This.

I figured this was a slam dunk where they were going next after the Rebels finale, and I was ok with that. I'm a lot less interested in pre-TFA than I am in post ROTJ.
Yeah... I wanted a continuation of the end of Rebels, where Sabine and Ashoka go off on their mission.

This... isn't that. At all.

 Azreal13 wrote:
She's essentially Darth Maul, but without even that much impact on the story.
Nah. Maul at least did something cool in his film. She's the sequel trilogy's equivalent of OT Boba Fett.




Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 15:27:38


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
I was hoping they'd get to pick up with Sabine and Ahsoka searching for Ezra as a "frame" for exploring the IMO much more interesting period post-Endor.


This.

I figured this was a slam dunk where they were going next after the Rebels finale, and I was ok with that. I'm a lot less interested in pre-TFA than I am in post ROTJ.
Yeah... I wanted a continuation of the end of Rebels, where Sabine and Ashoka go off on their mission.

This... isn't that. At all.

 Azreal13 wrote:
She's essentially Darth Maul, but without even that much impact on the story.
Nah. Maul at least did something cool in his film. She's the sequel trilogy's equivalent of OT Boba Fett.




I'd say she's the Sequel Trilogies equivalent of RoTJ Boba Fett, in ESB he did more than one thing.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 15:41:17


Post by: Azreal13


 H.B.M.C. wrote:


 Azreal13 wrote:
She's essentially Darth Maul, but without even that much impact on the story.
Nah. Maul at least did something cool in his film. She's the sequel trilogy's equivalent of OT Boba Fett.




Ima going to stand by my Maul comparison. Maul featured really heavily in the marketing of TPM, but ended up with barely any screen time and a couple dozen lines of dialogue. Just like Phasma in TFA. Maul's big point of difference is that role in the pivotal final showdown, without that, he's a total Phasma.

Although I'll concede that "not much involvement in first movie, but enough to be intriguing, followed by ultimate inept comic death in second appearance" is total Fett!


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/27 22:59:17


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Some needs to make a Darth Maul, Boba Fett, Phasma film


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/28 12:40:09


Post by: AegisGrimm


The theory behind this series really just seems that the Mouse is designing it as a marketing tool to push the modern trilogy stuff.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/28 12:41:53


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


As opposed to?


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/28 15:34:29


Post by: GoatboyBeta


 Turnip Jedi wrote:
But on the upside might mean some strange new X-Wing ships as many of the recent good ships came from Rebels


Ever since the mouse took over SW I've felt that the new expanding cannon has been something of a double edged sword for FFG. It provides lots of new stuff for there games and ongoing free hype for SW products. But they are often playing catch up, or working to deadlines from outside with incomplete info. If Rebels is any indicator there might not be any Resistance content for X-Wing or the other FFG table top games until seasons two or three.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/29 19:23:18


Post by: insaniak


 AegisGrimm wrote:
The theory behind this series really just seems that the Mouse is designing it as a marketing tool to push the modern trilogy stuff.

Well, of course it's a marketing tool. That's what Disney serial cartoons are. It's what they always have been.

Doesn't mean it won't be good.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/29 21:27:11


Post by: ZebioLizard2


GoatboyBeta wrote:
 Turnip Jedi wrote:
But on the upside might mean some strange new X-Wing ships as many of the recent good ships came from Rebels


Ever since the mouse took over SW I've felt that the new expanding cannon has been something of a double edged sword for FFG. It provides lots of new stuff for there games and ongoing free hype for SW products. But they are often playing catch up, or working to deadlines from outside with incomplete info. If Rebels is any indicator there might not be any Resistance content for X-Wing or the other FFG table top games until seasons two or three.
It also depends on what FFG feels like making at the time as well.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/30 00:10:53


Post by: Vulcan


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As opposed to?


Telling a quality story?


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/04/30 01:25:50


Post by: AegisGrimm


 insaniak wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
The theory behind this series really just seems that the Mouse is designing it as a marketing tool to push the modern trilogy stuff.

Well, of course it's a marketing tool. That's what Disney serial cartoons are. It's what they always have been.

Doesn't mean it won't be good.


Well, yeah, but Rebels wasn't exactly marketing anything about the original trilogy, it was telling a story set in a period that wasn't really fleshed out in a serial fashion by the EU.

I would be afraid a series set in the pre-Force Awakens trilogy would be at risk of being Rebels 2.0, unless the writers get pretty adventurous, which would be great.

But then again I am probably showing my bitterness of watching episode 7 make most of the adventures and accomplishments of the original trilogy characters not matter.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/05/01 09:03:26


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Vulcan wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As opposed to?


Telling a quality story?


Filoni managed that with both animated series so far. He even managed to tie up several Clone Wars threads in Rebels.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of the concept art and that for Resistance. I liked Clone Wars, absolutely LOVED Rebels, so I've got decent expectations for this.



Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/17 23:54:43


Post by: ingtaer


First proper trailer;



Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/18 00:04:48


Post by: LordofHats


Well the animation quality took a hit imo.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/18 00:12:49


Post by: Azreal13


I don't think it's worse per se. It's certainly a different style, but then it seems to be a whole shift tonally from the Clone Wars/Rebels thing.

Frankly, it looks like a SW Lego show with anime visuals from that trailer, but we'll see.

At least we have new Clone Wars to fall back on if this sucks.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/18 00:48:11


Post by: Gitzbitah


That was exactly my thought, Azrael.

Great for X-Wing players though- those ship designs are looking great!


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/18 02:05:57


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Is that an R41 Starchaser?

And... yeah. Hard pass. It looks awful.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/18 02:25:57


Post by: ingtaer


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is that an R41 Starchaser?

And... yeah. Hard pass. It looks awful.


Could well be, or maybe a Toscan.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/18 04:19:34


Post by: insaniak


Yeah, the animation isn't worse, just a different style. Reminds me a lot of Titan AE.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/18 05:55:30


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


It’s much brighter and cleaner in terms of the palette.

Shall give this a bash I think. Rebels wasn’t that much cop to begin with, but got seriously good.

Also, re-watching Clone Wars, because why wouldn’t you?


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/18 21:28:55


Post by: Grimskul


Not really liking the jive of the main character so far and the humour they're edging towards. The more important aspect is how they'll be incorporating the First Order, which I always felt should have been more of a terrorist paramilitary organization rather than the galactic presence it became given that the Empire remnant still existed as a rump state.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 09:50:47


Post by: Riquende


Looks like it centres round some sort of race. Didn't Droids do that 30+ years ago?

I can't get excited for this, but I probably will give it a watch.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 10:13:06


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


It’s a very short trailer, which shows very little of what we can expect.

Awful lot of conclusions being drawn based on that?


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 11:43:39


Post by: GoatboyBeta


Still looking forward to this. The animation style is a departure from what has come before, but it looks smooth and well done. As for the tone of the trailer? I think it fits. The Empire is beaten, the galaxy is enjoying a time of relative peace and the main protagonist is racing ships over an ocean world. So given the setting in the timeline and its physical location, a initially more upbeat narrative and bright colour palate do IMO fit.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 11:46:52


Post by: insaniak


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s a very short trailer, which shows very little of what we can expect.

Awful lot of conclusions being drawn based on that?

That's sort of what trailers are for...


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 12:31:47


Post by: ZebioLizard2


It looks like one of those cheap animation anime's Netflix produces.. Or something circa 2000.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 12:38:42


Post by: Lance845


 insaniak wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s a very short trailer, which shows very little of what we can expect.

Awful lot of conclusions being drawn based on that?

That's sort of what trailers are for...


No. Trailers are not meant to tell you much of anything. Trailers are for getting the target audience excited. This is a cartoon on the disney channel. Bright colors. Child show humor. Neat space ships. BB8. Fast flying and a little bit of action. Silly insaniak, this trailers for kids!



Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 12:45:01


Post by: AegisGrimm


I'm not a huge fan of the animation style, but I seem to remember the show Ironman Armored Adventures that was around a couple of years ago that looked kind of like that? This just looks like a slightly softer style. If the story is there I could overlook the animation.






Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 13:04:22


Post by: Lance845


 AegisGrimm wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of the animation style, but I seem to remember the show Ironman Armored Adventures that was around a couple of years ago that looked kind of like that? This just looks like a slightly softer style. If the story is there I could overlook the animation.



I hated Transformers Primes animation and art style at first. And now it's the Transformaers show I swear by. All depends on how well it's done.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 13:13:21


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Well it’s Dave ‘Clone Wars and Rebels’ Filoni running the show. So should be good.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 14:06:56


Post by: Gitzbitah


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Well it’s Dave ‘Clone Wars and Rebels’ Filoni running the show. So should be good.


Well now... Mr. Filoni is not involved day to day, he appears to be operating in more of a creative consultant role. https://comicbook.com/starwars/2018/08/14/star-wars-resistance-dave-filoni-involvement/



Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 14:24:24


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Still a very safe pair of hands all the same.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/19 18:07:40


Post by: Elbows


Trailer definitely didn't do much for me...but will be curious to see where this goes.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/20 02:41:57


Post by: insaniak


 Lance845 wrote:

I hated Transformers Primes animation and art style at first. And now it's the Transformaers show I swear by. All depends on how well it's done.

I was the same with Clone Wars.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/20 07:21:39


Post by: BlaxicanX


"a band of colorful misfits learn to live as a family while fighting a guerrilla war against the Evil Empire"

Yawn, no thanks.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/20 15:40:17


Post by: Easy E


Looks very kid friendly.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/20 17:43:47


Post by: Lance845


I think its important to note that every sw cartoon since clone wars has grown up with its audience. Clone wars and rebels both start very kid friendly. But by s3 s4 the theme get real heavy and dark. Expect the same.

This will start with the intent of bringing in a new batch of 10 year olds and 4-5 years from now will be more mature and aimed a bit higher at that 14-15 year old age group.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/20 22:19:00


Post by: Turnip Jedi


looks a bit cheap in places, but more spaceships and an apparent lack of lightsabers is sufficient to give it a chance


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/20 23:14:32


Post by: ZebioLizard2


Apparently it's going to be in the 10 PM timeslot... Kind of odd to be in the graveyard shift on a Sunday.

The series debuts Sunday, October 7 at 10pm EST on the Disney Channel.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/21 04:12:08


Post by: Azreal13


But will then repeat daily, in several time slots, for the rest of the following week.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/21 08:56:54


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


10pm Sunday is like for us Sad Old Grognards as a last minute ‘work tomorrow’ treat.

Eff knows when I’ll get to see it though!


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/30 09:50:52


Post by: ingtaer





Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/30 10:26:39


Post by: Nevelon


Looks like a pretty cliche group of characters. But stock characters are there for a reason. I’m not expecting anything ground breaking for this, but it looks like fun.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/30 11:29:45


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Aimed at a younger audience eh?

Don’t they know Star Wars is the sole property of 40-something men!


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/30 12:24:01


Post by: Mysterio


Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.

Don't watch!



Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/30 13:15:40


Post by: chromedog


 Nevelon wrote:
Looks like a pretty cliche group of characters. But stock characters are there for a reason. I’m not expecting anything ground breaking for this, but it looks like fun.



You say that like the original trilogy wasn't also a cliche group of characters ...


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/30 21:42:39


Post by: Nevelon


 chromedog wrote:
 Nevelon wrote:
Looks like a pretty cliche group of characters. But stock characters are there for a reason. I’m not expecting anything ground breaking for this, but it looks like fun.



You say that like the original trilogy wasn't also a cliche group of characters ...


That’s fair.

I don’t think Star Wars broke any ground with character tropes. Or plot for that mater. But the way it wove everything together is where the magic was. Hopefully they can capture some of that spark here. I’m sure it will be a fun watch, but I can already see a number of story arcs, just from the characters. You could make bingo cards and see which ones were worked into the series first.

Not ground breaking does not mean bad.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/08/31 08:53:53


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Oh Leia most definitely broke new ground.

Literal Princess, held in the dungeon - probably the most competent fighter in the group.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/02 17:09:16


Post by: Turnip Jedi


Maybe eventually via EU and wotnot additions, she's rather quite the irritation in ANH


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/02 17:23:39


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Still a far cry from the Princess stereotype.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/03 19:29:56


Post by: Lance845


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still a far cry from the Princess stereotype.


Really? In what capacity?

Open scene gets captured by the black knight in service to the evil wizard. Rescued by the knight in training, his mentor, his rogue friend, and the monster companion. Gives medals. Tells them about their next quest. Spends 2 movies being the object of desire of 2 male characters and continues to be one for one of them in the 3rd.

The only bit that really mixes it up is the surprise incest.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/03 19:34:30


Post by: ZebioLizard2


You mean besides the Princess also fighting her way out of the evil castle, going on to lead armies, and personally fight & choke to death a large, slug that captured her? While also still fighting in the later battle on Endor?

If you cherry pick examples, you can make anyone look bad.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/03 20:12:36


Post by: Kilkrazy


I thought the walk cycles looked a bit crappy. I like the overall concept, though.



Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/04 03:43:17


Post by: Lance845


 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
You mean besides the Princess also fighting her way out of the evil castle, going on to lead armies, and personally fight & choke to death a large, slug that captured her? While also still fighting in the later battle on Endor?

If you cherry pick examples, you can make anyone look bad.


If you mean "fight her way out" you mean hang onto the knight in training while he swung them over a pit, follow their lead and hold a blaster while everyone else had the plan and the lead the charge sure.

If you mean lead armies by being a middle management cog in a resistance force and was not the top person in charge like all lesser royalty then sure.

If you mean that time she was put into a sex outfit and enslaved and played a small part in spite killing the more or less defenseless thing that chose to enslave her while again, everyone else had the plan to rescue her than sure.

Yeah sure. She fought on endor. It wasn't solo, luke, chewie and the ewoks that did all the work.

I know people like to think princess leia is some strong female character. But even carrie fischer has always been incredibly disappointed in the complete lack of character arch, growth, or purpose of the character that wasn't just being there for other characters motivations. Sure it was the 70s. And in 79 Alien came out with actual strong, bad ass, with her own agency, Lt. Ripley in it.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/04 04:16:58


Post by: ZebioLizard2


If you mean "fight her way out" you mean hang onto the knight in training while he swung them over a pit, follow their lead and hold a blaster while everyone else had the plan and the lead the charge sure.


Spoiler:





If you mean lead armies by being a middle management cog in a resistance force and was not the top person in charge like all lesser royalty then sure.
Because the guy with actual battlefield experience was the general, and even then she still had the ear of the general when it came to command and still helped lead the evacuation of the rebel base


If you mean that time she was put into a sex outfit and enslaved and played a small part in spite killing the more or less defenseless thing that chose to enslave her while again, everyone else had the plan to rescue her than sure.
I... Apparently choking the big monster to death with a chain is a small part of killing it, who knew.

Yeah sure. She fought on endor. It wasn't solo, luke, chewie and the ewoks that did all the work.
You really like downplaying her contribution don't you?


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/04 04:33:32


Post by: Lance845


I like calling her character what it is. Barely a character in the OT.

Do you remember when her planet got blown up? Do you remember her human reaction to every person and place she ever knew being turned into an asteroid cluster? No? Thats because she wasn't really much of anything.

Trying to claim the character was more than what it is doesn't do it any favors. Leia wasn't the hero of any of the stories. She wasn't even A hero of any of the stories. She was motivation. A MacGuffin for the actual heroes to be motivated by.

Just like every other princess in every other typical story of those types. It's why she has the title Princess instead of literally ANY other title real or made up.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/04 15:33:12


Post by: Voss


 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
I... Apparently choking the big monster to death with a chain is a small part of killing it, who knew.

Well, when everything gets exploded by the hero 60 seconds later, it does undercut it a bit.

Look, you aren't entirely wrong, she isn't completely useless and there are much worse female leads. But.. she's allotted maybe 5 minutes of snark and one or two moments of decisive action per film, and that's really about it. After that an uncertain look wanders over her face and she fades into the background (literally happens during the Falcon repairs in Empire), or she's put back in her box. See Endor, where she sits around and waits in the Ewok village for the team to abandon their mission and come get her... And has her hair braided and a new (and completely impractical) dress made for her by forest dwelling primitives.

As female leads go... there are a lot of mixed messages. It isn't quite as bad as Eowyn (lots of talk around bravery and suicide, then prophecy action, then boxed up for marriage), but that character was written in the 40s/50s. For a 70s/80s sci-fi/space opera, Leia is passable but not particularly exceptional. Not just a prize to be won, but her moments of awesome are definitely fewer and overshadowed- for example, there isn't even a discussion about excluding her from the lineage confrontation. It simply never occurs to anyone that maybe she should go and confront 'father' as well. Or that it might actually be more effective, evoking memories of their (then unnamed) mother rather than confrontations with obi-wan.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/14 20:48:23


Post by: GoatboyBeta


New video about some of the other pilots




So a few thoughts....

That's quite a large cast with the characters from the last preview. Wonder if they will get trimmed down at some point?
Kinda related but any one placing bets on how long the ocean planet base lasts?
The ex Tie pilot has the best ship, and is an obvious red herring as a spy candidate.
Turk doesn't need to make up a Star wars name, and seeing Filoni without a cowboy hat still freaks me out


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/19 17:27:09


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


So it the animation by the same folks who made the Esurance commercials?






Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/19 19:15:25


Post by: Captain Joystick


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So it the animation by the same folks who made the Esurance commercials?


No, the animation house appears to be Polygon Pictures, who worked on Clone Wars.

They're also the same house who put out those low FPS CGI anime movies, like BLAME, Knights of Sidonia and Godzilla, which these previews seem to use the same tech from:




Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/19 21:20:32


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


For some reason I can't stop thinking of this...




Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/27 17:46:22


Post by: Captain Joystick


New trailer, feels kind of overactive. X-Wings and a Leia sound alike confirmed




Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/28 04:33:05


Post by: Lance845


What always throws me in all the cartoons (clone wars included) is that the aliens speak english. The SW movies always had the really neat innovation of the aliens just speaking their own alien languages and us being able to pick up what they were saying through context of the humans responses.

It's bizarre watching a Rodian speak "common".


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/28 12:07:23


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Basic. They speak Basic

Clone Wars it makes sense, because it's largely Senators.

Rebels? There's not that many Aliens in it.

I suppose there's also an argument than being kid's shows, you can never guarantee your audience will be able to read the subtitles - either at all, or fast enough?

With regard to the trailer, I actually got used to the art style quite quickly. Which is unusual for me, as I can't stand the Marvel stuff in the same artistic vein.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/28 12:22:49


Post by: beast_gts


And now there's calls for it to be banned/scrapped because one of the voice actors made a political post on Twitter...


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/28 13:31:37


Post by: Lance845


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Basic. They speak Basic

Clone Wars it makes sense, because it's largely Senators.

Rebels? There's not that many Aliens in it.

I suppose there's also an argument than being kid's shows, you can never guarantee your audience will be able to read the subtitles - either at all, or fast enough?

With regard to the trailer, I actually got used to the art style quite quickly. Which is unusual for me, as I can't stand the Marvel stuff in the same artistic vein.


The Aliens didn't speak basic in the prequel movies.

And SW never had subtitles until Han and chewie were speaking in the pit in Solo.

JUST saying. SW assumed everyone could figure it out, because we can. But the cartoons don't. I imagine it's mostly because it's easier to have a voice actor say words then it is to get the dozens of alien languages sounding right without just saying "Ootah Gootah, Solo!" over and over again. So it's probably a production limitation. But that production limitation shows and I notice it.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/28 14:08:44


Post by: Captain Joystick


beast_gts wrote:And now there's calls for it to be banned/scrapped because one of the voice actors made a political post on Twitter...

I mean, yeah, Disney's basically got a target on its face for that kind of thing right now.

The actual post is bizzare in its own right, either super sincere or brutally sarcastic - allegedly, anyway.

Speaking of...

Lance845 wrote:And SW never had subtitles until Han and chewie were speaking in the pit in Solo.

If you're being serious:
VII had subtitles on droid and alien talk when two agents outed BB8 being at Maz's bar,
II had subtitles on the CGI aliens with the early Death Star plans,
I had subtitles on Sebulba's dialogue,
VI special edition had subtitles on all of Jabba's dialogue,
IV special edition had subtitles on all of Greedo and Jabba's dialogue.

These are just off the top of my head.

Having unsubtitled foreign dialogue (whether alien or human languages not native to the viewer) has certain framing requirements if you want the audience to follow along.

The Greedo-Han talk is actually a really good example of this: Huttese is structurally similar to English, it takes about the same time to say something in either language, the position of nouns, proper nouns, all that are in the same place, and they borrow words from each other.

So sometimes Greedo says something and we can basically tell he's saying 'Going somewhere, Solo?', without any additional prodding. Sometimes he says something incomprehensible and we rely on context clues from Han to understand he said something like "I'm lucky I found you first.". You also have moments that mesh the two: when he says "You can tell that to Jabba, he may only take your ship." the beats match and the last word sounds kind of like 'ship' and Han's reaction "Over my dead body!" confirms it without directly repeating back what he said.

And all of that is in one very carefully crafted scene. (Which is utterly ruined by adding Jabba later to have the exact same conversation.)

It's not immediately practical to take the same approach to frequent conversations in a TV show. If you have a Rodian regular and you don't want to have your main character parrot every line he says back to him every time the situation doesn't allow for that careful framing (say, a fighter battle) having him speak basic instead is an elegant solution.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/28 16:21:57


Post by: squidhills


Has anyone brought up the fact that, if this series is a prequel to Episodes 7 & 8, then it is almost certain that every single one of these characters is dead by the end of Ep 8? Because the Resistance got murderfethed in that movie, and most of their pilots in particular were dead by the 20 minute mark.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/28 16:30:49


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Well, I thought that about Ahsoka....

And don’t forget, it was just The Resistance HQ. So far as we know, it’s entirely possible they had outposts elsewhere.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/09/29 18:10:32


Post by: GoatboyBeta


The Poe Dameron comics recently showed that a few of his black squadron buddies were away on a mission during the events of TLJ. Given the in universe timeline and the expected release date of episode 10, I wouldn't be surprised to see the later series of Resistance weave around the events of the sequel trilogy. We might even see some droid and ship cameos in ep10 in the same way Rebels got a few nods in Rogue one.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/03 22:06:56


Post by: insaniak


 Captain Joystick wrote:
New trailer, feels kind of overactive. X-Wings and a Leia sound alike confirmed

The Leia voice sounds spot on. Good job, whoever that is.

This is looking very cool.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/08 07:37:38


Post by: ingtaer


Surprised this thread hasn't been updated as its now available.

Overall I am pretty pleased so far, the animation takes some getting used to and Neeku(?) is pretty irritating but so far so good. Nice FO TIE/in as well.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/08 09:17:55


Post by: tneva82


 Captain Joystick wrote:
New trailer, feels kind of overactive. X-Wings and a Leia sound alike confirmed




Looks like one I might have found interesting when I was around 10.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/09 23:54:36


Post by: GoatboyBeta


So a few assorted thoughts after watching the first four episodes.

The animation does take some getting used to as its a big change from both Clone wars and Rebels. And while I do prefer the styling of both those shows it doesnt make Resistence bad, just different.

The tone is fairly light and fun for now. But with his father in the senate there are dark days ahead for Kaz when the show catches up to TFO.

As long as they havent blown all there ship models in the first four episodes, FFG are gonna get a lot of milage out of this show for X-Wing.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/10 03:33:54


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I've only seen the first few mins of the first episode (at work, can't watch the whole thing now).

I watched 3 X-Wings being unable to shake a single TIE fighter. That's... pretty lame. I hope it improves.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/10 11:11:22


Post by: DaveC


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I've only seen the first few mins of the first episode (at work, can't watch the whole thing now).

I watched 3 X-Wings being unable to shake a single TIE fighter. That's... pretty lame. I hope it improves.


You need to finish the episode the Red Tie Fighter is an Ace and Poe says no one has ever even hit him before even Poe struggles to shake him but the usual all shots go astray when a lead character is involved kicks in!

The animation does take a bit of getting used to, the tone is quite light and Kaz is a bit annoying but other animated shows started similarly and got darker as they progressed and the younger leads matured a bit.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/10 11:20:32


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Any idea where I can watch this in the UK, without getting Sky?

Not one for pirating, so kosher sources only for me


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/10 11:39:52


Post by: AndrewGPaul


If it's on Disney XD like Rebels was, you can get that on BT, and possibly on Virgin too.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/10 11:44:59


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Hmm. Might look into that


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/10 14:09:57


Post by: Commander Cain


For a kids show I thought it was fine, there's not really anything to keep an older viewer interested so far though. I think I will wait for the season to finish and just blast through the rest of the episodes and pick out all the good bits!

I hope they get through the obligatory *main character matures and rises up to the challenge* part quickly though. In the first episode Kaz seemed great, leading a squad of X-Wings, making a bit of self sacrifice and stepping away from his father but he rapidly devolved into a bumbling kid soon after which didn't really fit.

Like I said though, it is very much a kids show and I am sure it will grow with the audience like Rebels did.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/11 23:36:17


Post by: Easy E


GoatboyBeta wrote:
The Poe Dameron comics recently showed that a few of his black squadron buddies were away on a mission during the events of TLJ. .


Okay, then where were they when Leia called all the Resistance to come help and no one answered? Too busy washing their hair?

On Topic- I haven't seen the show yet.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/12 04:44:42


Post by: ZebioLizard2


The main thing that bugs me is Neeku, just too much comic relief.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/12 05:51:30


Post by: GoatboyBeta


 Easy E wrote:

Okay, then where were they when Leia called all the Resistance to come help and no one answered? Too busy washing their hair?




Not quite. They were doing much of the same things that the "main" Resistance group was doing during TLJ. Fighting and running from the First Order forces storming into the New Republic.


Star Wars; Resistance @ 2018/10/12 09:20:18


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


GoatboyBeta wrote:
 Easy E wrote:

Okay, then where were they when Leia called all the Resistance to come help and no one answered? Too busy washing their hair?




Not quite. They were doing much of the same things that the "main" Resistance group was doing during TLJ. Fighting and running from the First Order forces storming into the New Republic.


And being a wing of X-Wings really isn't going to help against The First Order's main fleet. That'd be a fools death. Better to use the distraction to retreat, and see if you can't get things going again. Heck, maybe even start spreading the word about what The First Order are up to. You don't need to come running to aid in a fight.