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Post by: reds8n
At the AdeptiCon Studio Seminar, we revealed that Sisters of Battle are on their way. We promised you we’d keep you updated and take you on this army’s journey from design to release. Now, as promised, we can finally show you just what the new generation of Adepta Sororitas is going to look like:
The classic gothic design of the Sisters of Battle is, to be frank, awesome, and with the new range, the design studio hasn’t been trying to change that – instead, we’ve gone back to the original art and looked at how we can truly bring it to life using cutting edge design technology. The first model of the new generation of Sisters of Battle is based – almost detail-for-detail – on some of the most iconic Sisters of Battle art ever made, and you can expect the rest of the army to follow the classic design cues you know and love.
We’ve pushed our designers to the limit with these new models, and this first Battle Sister is the perfect example of that – she’s got everything from ragged purity seals, rosaries and charms, to precise mechanical details on the bolter and power armour that has been lavishly realised. The scenic base alone is an awesome piece in its own right. We think it’s safe to say that if you’re a Sororitas fan, the wait has been well worth it.
This Battle Sister will be the first you’ll be able to get your hands on, a special preview release ahead of the main wave to make the wait a little bit more bearable. We can’t say when just yet, but stay tuned to Warhammer Community to find out as soon as we have a date.
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Post by: Crazyterran
By the Emperor! Amazing!
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Post by: unmercifulconker
Insane amount of detail. That's going right in the cabinet. 
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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon
There it is! i was waiting for this!
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Post by: bubber
I love that art work. Who was the artist - anyone remember?
The model looks amazing but the face is just a smidge off - jaw a bit too heavy & the cheek bones need a bit more refinement but these are nanometers they're dealing with so pretty damn good.
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Post by: Crimson
This is absolutely perfect!
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Post by: Geifer
One of my favorite Sisters artwork. Nice of GW to save me the trouble of converting it.
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Post by: insaniak
Oh, that's a bit special, that is...
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Post by: GuardStrider
Yeeeessss
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Post by: tneva82
Hopefully that's character so r&f won't be quite so blinged up. Fmr character nice model
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Post by: Imateria
I'm sold, this might actually get me to buy an Imperial army.
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Post by: nedsta
Oh my.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Its pretty nice, but they messed up the face. Otherwise its a good job.
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Post by: cygnnus
Dang... that’s nice! Just hope they didn’t “primaris-ify “the scale too much...
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: Yodhrin
No words, too awesome.
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Post by: Peregrine
When do we get to see actual models and not CG images that may or may not accurately represent the plastic kits?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Looks great. Wonderful centrepiece model.
Can't wait to see the rest of the range, and can't wait to watch our resident SoB players bitch about this endlessly.
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Post by: Herbington
Sold!
Would make a nice Xmas present... Please GW! 
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Post by: Geifer
 Peregrine wrote:When do we get to see actual models and not CG images that may or may not accurately represent the plastic kits?
Going to be a while still. GW has only known for two or three months that there's demand for Sisters.
There'll be Sisters beta rules at the end of the year (in Chapter Approved? Not sure GW said where'd they release them). I'm guessing this model will be released alongside that.
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
 bubber wrote:I love that art work. Who was the artist - anyone remember?
Karl Kopinski, I believe.
According to Eddie on the livestream, the Sister won't be released until 2019, though still ahead of the rest of the range.
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Post by: Huginn
Needs the barrel drilled out 
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Post by: Binabik15
Jaw. Meet. Floor.
And just to be greedy: I hope we get equally faithful renditions of Repentias and arco-flagellants and witch hunter down the line.
PS: Yeah, demand for Sisters basically snuck up on GW Couldn't have seen that coming.
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Post by: Mr Morden
Hell yeah 
Emperor be praised
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Post by: AegisGrimm
 H.B.M.C. wrote:Looks great. Wonderful centrepiece model.
Can't wait to see the rest of the range, and can't wait to watch our resident SoB players bitch about this endlessly.
Oh, those Sisters players. Fnar, fnar.
I'm a resident Sisters player-probably one of the absolute oldest, as I got them at their original release in 2nd- and I think the model is great, and have always loved that Sister art (along with the Kasrkin art by the same guy). But like it's been said: GW doesn't get a pass, I'm going to be as critical as I would with any other company when I judge the eventual real model against this CGI render. CGI renders always look amazing nowadays, but doesn't necessarily prove anything about the actual models.
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Post by: Strg Alt
The first thing that comes to mind is this:
White Dwarf - 101- May 2004, Price Tag (Germany): 5,95€
Yes, I have still the WD with her on the cover. I always liked the artwork and now I will even have the opportunity to have her as a mini. This day already surprised me with a ton of good news from BB and now this. She also looks better than the sister from the 2nd Sororitas codex. Though I guess her price tag will be at least 25€ but like Slambo and Marbo she is simply a must have mini for my glass cabinet.
Automatically Appended Next Post:  Binabik15 wrote:Jaw. Meet. Floor.
And just to be greedy: I hope we get equally faithful renditions of Repentias and arco-flagellants and witch hunter down the line.
PS: Yeah, demand for Sisters basically snuck up on GW Couldn't have seen that coming.
It only took more than a decade of relentless bitching.
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Post by: His Master's Voice
Peregrine wrote:When do we get to see actual models and not CG images that may or may not accurately represent the plastic kits?
This is pretty clearly a model designed for production. There's little reason to think that the final product will look significantly different. This isn't a CMoN render to resin to PVC transition.
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Post by: Lord Damocles
Is that a Godwyn-Deaz pattern bolter with two ejection ports..?
*triggered*
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Post by: Melissia
That is beautiful. I love it!
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Post by: Ouze
Man, I really do not have physical room to display another army, but I guess here we are.
On the plus side this gives me a compelling reason to finally dump my poorly painted Ultramarines.
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Post by: JSG
Peregrine wrote:When do we get to see actual models and not CG images that may or may not accurately represent the plastic kits?
It's GW in 2018. Why pretend this is a valid concern?
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Post by: Melissia
Yeah I'm pretty sure this is gonna be fairly close to the actual plastic kits.
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Post by: Kanluwen
From War of Sigmar's blog:
Hello everyone !!
Seminar is still going but I have multi reports of a SOB model shown (very detailed)
Picture forbidden during seminar.
More info to come !
-Army is planned for with codex 2019
-Few iconic models will be released ahead of time. (like this one)
-THEY ARE COMING, the studios is fully working on them !
The sculpt was done by Darren Latham.
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Post by: warspawned
I agree with everyone. She's glorious!
However, she's going to be finecast, isn't she? 
That's pretty much a deal breaker for me given the last few GW resin minis I've painted.
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Post by: Kanluwen
 warspawned wrote:I agree with everyone. She's glorious!
However, she's going to be finecast, isn't she?
That's pretty much a deal breaker for me given the last few GW resin minis I've painted.
If they're releasing parts of the range in advance, it'd be in plastic.
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Post by: TheGuest
warspawned wrote:I agree with everyone. She's glorious!
However, she's going to be finecast, isn't she?
That's pretty much a deal breaker for me given the last few GW resin minis I've painted.
It's in plastic if Warhammer Community isn't lying to us.
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Post by: Melissia
Yeah, GW specifically said plastic.
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Post by: TheGuest
And I'm not sure the rosary could be done in resin...
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Post by: Yodhrin
It'll be a 25 quid "limited release" plastic model like the anniversary Primaris Sergeant, except this time people might actually buy them. EDIT: That's me speculating, by the way, not event info.
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Post by: tneva82
More easily than in plastic
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Post by: EnTyme
Absolutely gorgeous! Reports are coming in of demons ice skating and a 747 has reportedly struck a pig somewhere over the Atlantic.
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Post by: Nevelon
Knowing the restrictions of plastic, I wonder how many pieces she will be. Looking at all the undercuts, I’m guessing a lot.
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Post by: warspawned
Thank the Emperor for that!
Yay!
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Post by: Geifer
 Yodhrin wrote:It'll be a 25 quid "limited release" plastic model like the anniversary Primaris Sergeant, except this time people might actually buy them. EDIT: That's me speculating, by the way, not event info.
She'll no doubt cost a lot more than I'd consider reasonable, like any other modern GW clamshell character. Given the deluge of Death characters, though, I doubt she'll be limited. Just a regular part of the range for when your Sister Superior out of a troop box isn't superior enough.
But of by "limited release" you mean a paper thin justification to up the price into demented territory, yeah. i could see that. I don't expect Sisters to have decent pricing and fear we'll get to pay the same boob bonus that made Witch Elves unfeasible.
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Post by: Binabik15
Ehh, the BoP Ahriman is proof that GW can do fiddly plastic ropes no problem. That the ones on mine broke off are my own fault, but detail wise it works.
In Finecast it'd be not lining up in 9/10 casts, I bet.
PS: I can't get over how food this looks. It blows Celestine and that Canoness straight out of the water, IMO.
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Post by: Geifer
 Nevelon wrote:Knowing the restrictions of plastic, I wonder how many pieces she will be. Looking at all the undercuts, I’m guessing a lot.
Jigsaw puzzle like Celestine?
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Post by: Chikout
That sister was designed by Darren Latham of Genestealer Cult Neophytes and Skitarii fame. I think the final model will turn out pretty well.
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Post by: Souleater
Perfect. Not much longer now!
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Post by: Twoshoes23
The Emperor shall provide to the faithful! Ave Imperator
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Post by: Oguhmek
Awesome, can't wait! It looks very much ready for production - you can even see the splitlines on the top of the shoulder pads in the top view. Will definitely get my hands on one of her.
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Post by: Samko
Perfect !
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Post by: Ashiraya
I'm not even mad.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Now I can't unsee the fact that the bolter has two ejection ports.
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Post by: Not-not-kenny
Aren't bolters supposed to have two ejection ports so they an be wielded both right and left handed?
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Post by: Sigur
ugh, now GW also think that renders were in any way acceptable or by anybody deemed attractive?
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Post by: kronk
My wife is really happy with the announcement and preview. It will be an expensive time in the Kronk household
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Don't know if that's the reason, but all the Primaris Bolt Rifles and Carbines have two ejection ports, so it's at least consistent with modern 40K designs, if nothing else.
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Post by: alphaecho
 Sigur wrote:ugh, now GW also think that renders were in any way acceptable or by anybody deemed attractive?
Plenty of people in this thread, including me, seem to be happy. GW has already explained that the process for delivery of this army would be covered not secret until the pre order day.
I'm looking forward to adding these to my 2nd Ed metals and the Burning Rose models from Anvil.
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Post by: Lord Damocles
 Not-not-kenny wrote:Aren't bolters supposed to have two ejection ports so they an be wielded both right and left handed?
Not according to all of the other Godwyn-Deaz bolter models. See any of the current/past Sisters models.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
Also, charging handle does not always equal ejection port. Several modern rifle designs have left side charge and right hand eject, or can be swapped either way with ease.
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Post by: Thommy H
Can't believe GW have ruined the plastic SoB range by *checks notes* putting bilateral ejection ports on the boltgun of the first CAD preview of a model.
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Post by: Crazyterran
How dare they modernize the designs of twenty plus year old models! The nerve!
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Post by: Adeptus Doritos
Well, good. Now we can transition into people whining about their rules instead of just not having the models.
About time. And mock-up isn't bad.
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Post by: bubber
Thommy H wrote:Can't believe GW have ruined the plastic SoB range by *checks notes* putting bilateral ejection ports on the boltgun of the first CAD preview of a model.
Yeah - I'm out.
( lol)
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Post by: ImAGeek
Sigur wrote:ugh, now GW also think that renders were in any way acceptable or by anybody deemed attractive?
If the models aren’t done, it’s either renders or nothing. I know which I’d prefer.
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Post by: pretre
Nothing dulls your excitement for a release like popping into one of these threads. lol
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Post by: Binabik15
Weird discussion, especially since I prefer bolters to be caseless in the background but the massive ejection port(s) makes the weapon much more brutal looking on the actual mini here compared to the older bolters or lasguns.
Give me a Schrödinger-pattern bolter any day.
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Post by: MonkeyBallistic
I honestly can’t believe some people are finding reasons to complain
In my eyes she’s bloody perfect! No disrespect to Karl Kopinski, but she’s actually better than the artwork she’s based on. The model actually fixes some of the shonky proportions in the art.
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Post by: Galas
My only reaction to this:
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Post by: pretre
They need to make a basing range based on that.
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Post by: MonkeyBallistic
A basing range based on her base? That’d be a good basis to base a basing range on. Any objection would be baseless
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Post by: Davor
Oh my. A few posts about "the face". So in other words it's not sex enough? Geez what do you expect they have been in many battles. Of course they are going to be scared up.
Just because the mini is female doesn't have to be sexualized. What is the next complaint going to be? Too much clothing?
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Post by: John Prins
I'm really happy about this model, full stop. It's basically everything I wanted the new iteration of SoB to be - armor that looks like armor, still obviously feminine.
My only dilemma at this point is choosing a color scheme.
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Post by: Aesthete
My reaction: 100% pure yes.
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Post by: phillv85
I'm happy with the aesthetic, they'll fit with the metal models as long as they're not a head taller. Great work gee dubs.
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Post by: inflatablefriend
That looks pretty damn great, glad they're sharing the renders of the work as they go rather than working in silence (and a decent couple of renders too, none of this shonky default Redwax matcap amateurishness).
I doubt I'll become a SoB player, but for sure I'll be picking this up and maybe a few more to go into my Imperial hotpot.
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Post by: petrov27
very very happy with this - cannot wait to see more of the planned range
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
All I can say is, "Poor, poor Shieldwolf."
I'm in for all the blinged out sisters and all the plain-Jane sisters. So long as they have helmets.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
Universal praise at GW announcing that they will be showing the development of the SoB range, then we get comments like “why is it just a render? Where are the actual models?”
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Post by: Blackie
It's an amazing model but I wish it will be a character, not a standard sister: it's too detailed for a basic troop. Otherwise a squad of 5 girls will cost 45+ $ I fear.
It also looks quite monopose and I'd like to start a sister army in which the majority of the models are magnetized in order to play WYSIWYG using the models as battle sisters, retributors, dominions, characters, etc...
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Post by: AegisGrimm
I am really liking how they intend to modernize the details, but without changing them. I personally don't mind if they are slightly different from my metal ones in the presicion of detail, but the overall aesthetic is still of the Sisters I used to love.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
 Blackie wrote:It's an amazing model but I wish it will be a character, not a standard sister: it's too detailed for a basic troop. Otherwise a squad of 5 girls will cost 45+ $ I fear.
It also looks quite monopose and I'd like to start a sister army in which the majority of the models are magnetized in order to play WYSIWYG using the models as battle sisters, retributors, dominions, characters, etc...
Do we know it is not a character mini? Aren't most monopose minis based off of iconic pieces of art characters or special collectible minis?
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Post by: gigasnail
I have always said if they actually did plastic sisters I'd have another army.
Looks like I'll have another fething army.
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Looks good. I already have the Raging Heroes stuff, so I'm more interested in the vehicles GW will do.
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Post by: AegisGrimm
Oh, I can think of a couple posters where if they show up it'll go downhill pretty quick, especially about sexualization.
I for one am eager to see where GW heads with Sisters.
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Post by: godswildcard
Strange....
I keep throwing my wallet at my screen but nothing is happening...
Anyone else getting that error?
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Post by: Casbyness
Love this model, but I'd be far more excited to see rank and file Sisters plus previews of a new Codex. If they had explained that this was a specific character I'd be happier, I really hope GW don't derp out this time and we get proper rules for Veridyan, etc.
The ornate base and scars are a bit much. I think this model is great for representing Miriya though.
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Post by: AegisGrimm
Strange....
I keep throwing my wallet at my screen but nothing is happening...
Anyone else getting that error?
Wallets don't work anymore with modern GW, routing numbers are preferred. 
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Post by: BrookM
Not starting a new army just yet, but the preview model is most certainly a must-have for me, an excellent model based on the Karl Kopinski art.
A nice update without going overboard or going in a completely new direction. 
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Post by: Mmmpi
 godswildcard wrote:Strange....
I keep throwing my wallet at my screen but nothing is happening...
Anyone else getting that error?
404 wallet not found.
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Post by: ImAGeek
 Casbyness wrote:Love this model, but I'd be far more excited to see rank and file Sisters plus previews of a new Codex. If they had explained that this was a specific character I'd be happier, I really hope GW don't derp out this time and we get proper rules for Veridyan, etc.
The ornate base and scars are a bit much. I think this model is great for representing Miriya though.
It’s a special prerelease model based exactly on the bit of artwork. I doubt the others will be quite so ornate.
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Post by: Thommy H
Casbyness wrote:
The ornate base and scars are a bit much. I think this model is great for representing Miriya though.
The scars are in the original art tbf:
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Post by: Fafnir
This is perfect. Everything I ever wanted out of a Sisters model, but didn't think possible. I will buy all of them.
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Post by: BrookM
re: scars.. This is something the artist does with a lot of his art.
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Post by: Quickjager
One step closer to completing the Ordo Militant showcase.
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Post by: Tastyfish
 BobtheInquisitor wrote: Blackie wrote:It's an amazing model but I wish it will be a character, not a standard sister: it's too detailed for a basic troop. Otherwise a squad of 5 girls will cost 45+ $ I fear.
It also looks quite monopose and I'd like to start a sister army in which the majority of the models are magnetized in order to play WYSIWYG using the models as battle sisters, retributors, dominions, characters, etc...
Do we know it is not a character mini? Aren't most monopose minis based off of iconic pieces of art characters or special collectible minis?
Probably more like the limited ed vet sergeants they did for primaris marines for new store openings, rather than a special character
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Post by: RoninXiC
Quite the strong start!
I never understood why it took them 29384 years to redo one of the most wanted and most iconic model lines there is.
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Post by: Haighus
Lovely model. I think I will be grabbing this, especially as it has been confirmed in plastic. Cannot be doing with finecast myself, other than shoulder pads which are tolerable.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
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Post by: Thargrim
If its plastic, and less than 50 dollars...good chance i'll buy.
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Post by: TheDraconicLord
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
Plastic Thunderhawk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by: Manchu
Standing ovation for GW. This is perfect.
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Post by: Da Boss
*Looks out the window to make sure there's not a giant wolf eating the sun*
Huh. I guess it wasn't the final trumpet after all?
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Post by: oomiestompa
I love how this mini looks. Can't wait for it to come out!
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Post by: youwashock
Jolly good. Will most likely purchase.
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Post by: JohnnyHell
Want. That is all.
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Post by: EnTyme
So should we all just start spamming AnActualEnglishman with links to this thread?
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
That render is gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous.
godswildcard wrote:Strange....
I keep throwing my wallet at my screen but nothing is happening...
Anyone else getting that error?
Just tried and I am getting the same error.
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Post by: Milkshaker
I can't wait! couldn't have looked better!
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Post by: Zognob Gorgoff
At this rate that will be out by next Christmas
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Post by: JohnnyHell
I’m quite impressed people have managed to find negative things to say about this. That’s a new level of commitment to being negative.
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Post by: ScarletRose
Another in the trend of overly busy GW minis with a billion little gubbins. If I could find a copy of that base though it might be nice for a project.
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Post by: Peregrine
 JohnnyHell wrote:I’m quite impressed people have managed to find negative things to say about this. That’s a new level of commitment to being negative.
Alternatively, it's not being blinded by GW fanboyism and nostalgia for the concept of SoB. It's not a bad model, IMO, but it's not so amazing that any criticism can only be negativity for the sake of negativity.
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Post by: ph34r
Es good
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Post by: CoteazRox
Brilliant (says this SoB player).
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Post by: Racerguy180
that model is beautiful.
essentially screams sisters. I love the scars and the boots, armour is more "functional".
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
Kid_Kyoto wrote:Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
Plastic thunderhawk and fires of cyraxis are both still on the clock. Squats and sisters have new model now.
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Post by: Captain Joystick
I'd had a whole shtick ready, "It's a trick! Don't be fooled! They're luring us into a trap!" but I'd hate for Doritos to mistake me for whatever boogeyman he's looking for...
Let me say I'm quite excited, actual signs of progress at last!
Candy apple red for me, with a little black here and there to break it up.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Kid_Kyoto wrote:Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
Oh, they still have options.
Pariahs.
Warhammer Fantasy Battle
Plastic Thunderhawk
Ork Cheerleaders.
Dark Angles
And that's just from the top of my head.
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Post by: drbored
 CthuluIsSpy wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote:Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
Oh, they still have options.
Pariahs.
Warhammer Fantasy Battle
Plastic Thunderhawk
Ork Cheerleaders.
Dark Angles
And that's just from the top of my head.
Sorry bro, gotta scratch one of those off the list...
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
I don't see them on the April's Fool list: Did I miss a relaunch of the Formir?
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Huh, they actually brought it back. Neat.
I like the one in my profile pic more though
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Post by: AegisGrimm
drbored wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote:Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
Oh, they still have options.
Pariahs.
Warhammer Fantasy Battle
Plastic Thunderhawk
Ork Cheerleaders.
Dark Angles
And that's just from the top of my head.
Sorry bro, gotta scratch one of those off the list...
And that's not even the original metal one!
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Post by: warboss
Definitely a cool looking model in the OP and will be great for an RPG character. I recently picked up a (broken) version of the resin 2nd edition SOB that came out a year or two back that will tide me over until that one comes out.
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Post by: Mentlegen324
 ScarletRose wrote:Another in the trend of overly busy GW minis with a billion little gubbins. If I could find a copy of that base though it might be nice for a project.
In what way do you think it's overly busy, though? It's pretty much just that original piece of artwork in miniature form, with a few detail parts a bit larger than they are in the artwork. There isn't much about it that's substantially different from that artwork, so it has nothing to do with any sort of trend - that art has been around for many, many years.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
So, uh, that mini is pretty cool eh?
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Post by: Giantwalkingchair
That is an excellent rendering of some good old art. Hlad to see the design team is being....faithful...
Loving the direction. If the whole line looks even half as good as her, sisters are going to be in a very good place.
Digging that base shes on.
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Post by: streamdragon
nope, still don't believe it. it's not even a model, it's just a render (unless the actual model showed up somewhere in the last 4 pages)
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Post by: Just Tony
Simply amazing.
This is it, right here. This is what's going to get me to spring for modern GW plastics. Granted, I'll be running a 3rd Ed. Sisters army, but the damn thing will be PLASTIC!!!!!!!!!! Finally...
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
Very nice model. Not a Sisters player, but I wouldn't mind adding this one to my collection. I have high hopes for the Sisters players out there. Your time has come.
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Post by: dienekes96
It’s an exceptional figure. Darren Latham continues to impress. I doubt getting that pose right was easy. I’ve always loved that piece of art by KK; he did outstanding work on the Witchhunters Codex. Smart move by GW to knock a few of these figures out before the army release.
She’s a beaut.
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Post by: dracpanzer
Aesthetic is spot on, love that, hope the scale creep stays away. She certainly isn't equipped like a character...
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Post by: John Prins
 Captain Joystick wrote:I'd had a whole shtick ready, "It's a trick! Don't be fooled! They're luring us into a trap!" but I'd hate for Doritos to mistake me for whatever boogeyman he's looking for...
Let me say I'm quite excited, actual signs of progress at last!
Candy apple red for me, with a little black here and there to break it up.
Very nice! Part of me is leaning towards a bog standard green camo scheme, just because I've never seen anyone do military colors on a SoB army. Maybe non-metallic golden bling. But I'd also like to do a royal blue, like my old inquisitor lord in terminator armor.
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Post by: Dr Mathias
I've collected every Sororitas miniature since the first release in 2nd edition (and Rogue Trader if you count the 'female marines') and I have to say I'm really pleased with the way they handled the aesthetic. My fear was a radical departure (less so after seeing Celestine and Geminae). Damn fine work GW.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
If they’re bringing other Karl Kosinski art to life, I’d love to see the sketch of the squad advancing down the steps of the cathedral realised as a diorama or something.
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Post by: tneva82
 Mentlegen324 wrote: ScarletRose wrote:Another in the trend of overly busy GW minis with a billion little gubbins. If I could find a copy of that base though it might be nice for a project.
In what way do you think it's overly busy, though? It's pretty much just that original piece of artwork in miniature form, with a few detail parts a bit larger than they are in the artwork. There isn't much about it that's substantially different from that artwork, so it has nothing to do with any sort of trend - that art has been around for many, many years.
So model based on overly busy can't be overly busy? Plus what's not busy on art can make easily busy model. Different medium and scale. Bigger area, more details needed. Smaller area, same detail, busy.
This is bearable if it's character model but if this were style for r&f 1) would be annoying army to paint 2) current metals would likely appear as cheap version!
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Post by: ImAGeek
tneva82 wrote: Mentlegen324 wrote: ScarletRose wrote:Another in the trend of overly busy GW minis with a billion little gubbins. If I could find a copy of that base though it might be nice for a project.
In what way do you think it's overly busy, though? It's pretty much just that original piece of artwork in miniature form, with a few detail parts a bit larger than they are in the artwork. There isn't much about it that's substantially different from that artwork, so it has nothing to do with any sort of trend - that art has been around for many, many years.
So model based on overly busy can't be overly busy? Plus what's not busy on art can make easily busy model. Different medium and scale. Bigger area, more details needed. Smaller area, same detail, busy.
This is bearable if it's character model but if this were style for r&f 1) would be annoying army to paint 2) current metals would likely appear as cheap version!
It’s just meant to be an exact replica of that artwork to show us that that’s the general style they’re going for (the existing aesthetic, basically) and to tide people over a bit before the proper release. I highly doubt it’s indicitive of what every rank and file model will look like in the army. It’s just a nice homage to the art.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Hey everyone, it's fine to argue about whether you think this is a good model and why, but stop slagging each other off. It's a long time since I've seen so many user alerts on one thread.
It's supposed to be about the figures.
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Post by: Bdrone
When i first saw the figure, ill admit, I attempted to nitpick it- but i feel like that even was the case was because deep down I had given up on this even being a thing sometime ago, and ive been more than a bit pessimistic about GW lately on top of that.
I only found 3 things off about the picture in comparison to the actual art or even the older models that could be construed as wrong. Even within that it's utterly pedantic stuff considering how stunning beautiful it is and how to me it's a nearly perfect render that managed to put a smile on my face. the plastic modeling and the rest of the sisters army to come is the next test.
The fact they seem to be preserving the Sisters of battle iconography as it is, and putting the effort into bringing that into plastic means that with one or two more models shown (big one i need to see is repentia) they will have utterly sold me on this if this keeps at this quality while retaining the aesthetic and to me religious elements of the faction.
at this point, i realize my love of the faction in part comes from what religious connotations i can dig out of why X thing is X, so i hope it's all like this.
Cheers, GW. I honestly can't believe how much i love it.
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Post by: draugadan
This is a stunning model, and I hope the rank and file follow suit. In no way do I think this is overly detailed. This is perfect. I'll definitely be getting this model.
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Post by: schoon
Beautiful figure and a great teaser for the rest of the range.
For me, this shows that they're headed in the right direction.
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Post by: Yodhrin
 dracpanzer wrote:Aesthetic is spot on, love that, hope the scale creep stays away. She certainly isn't equipped like a character...
Maybe, at long last, GW are going to stop forcing squad sergeants to take CC loadouts? Och, no, that's silly, we're getting plastic SoB not miracles
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Post by: Paradigm
Blimey... that's a little bit good! And by that, I mean pretty much perfect. The aesthetic, the pose drawn straight from the art, the phenomenal level of detail, all of it. Top notch.
I'd love to see GW start doing more like this actually, individual display models based on iconic artwork. There's a lot of scope there.
But for now, this will certainly do!
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Post by: Dysartes
 Geifer wrote:But of by "limited release" you mean a paper thin justification to up the price into demented territory, yeah. i could see that. I don't expect Sisters to have decent pricing and fear we'll get to pay the same boob bonus that made Witch Elves unfeasible.
Minor point - I think it was less a boob bonus on the plastic Witch Elves, and more a "Look, you can also build a Rare unit!!1!!11!" tax.
Sigur wrote:ugh, now GW also think that renders were in any way acceptable or by anybody deemed attractive?
If they've only been working on it since the announcement, Sigur - and I'll be generous, and assume that's the case - they may not actually have had a master of it printed yet.
 BrookM wrote:Not starting a new army just yet, but the preview model is most certainly a must-have for me, an excellent model based on the Karl Kopinski art.
A nice update without going overboard or going in a completely new direction.
I think that sums things up quite nicely, BrookM
Kid_Kyoto wrote:Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
Plastic Warhound?
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Post by: Mr_Rose
For people complaining about the renders: unlike some companies, GW makes the render from the same file that gets sent to the mould cutters, where the file runs the CAM cutting tool. There is no intermediary “master” print; any prints that are made, are made to test the look “in person” (because some people can’t properly judge the scale from the screen) and to test how the model will be “cut up” into parts.
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Post by: silverstu
That is a really impressive sculpt - brilliant that they are planning to release it ahead of the main army release. GW are certainly handling things really well ...
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Post by: Just Tony
Kid_Kyoto wrote:Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
Fimir?
An actual Lovecraftian army?
WFB?
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Post by: Geifer
 Dysartes wrote: Geifer wrote:But of by "limited release" you mean a paper thin justification to up the price into demented territory, yeah. i could see that. I don't expect Sisters to have decent pricing and fear we'll get to pay the same boob bonus that made Witch Elves unfeasible.
Minor point - I think it was less a boob bonus on the plastic Witch Elves, and more a "Look, you can also build a Rare unit!!1!!11!" tax.
That played into it too, I'm sure. To elaborate where I'm coming from:
Two years before Dark Elves, you could buy shiny new Tomb Guard for 32.50€. Standard Goldsword price. In those two years GW upped the price of core boxes from 23€ to 26€ for the Core elves. Somehow Witch Elves didn't end up in the 35/36€ or even 40€ price bands but went straight to 45€. You could argue that they would end up costing like elite infantry even though they build standard infantry as well (the default build on top of that, to be sure). GW would certainly agree with that. But somehow they managed to increase the price even beyond that point, where taking a Rare slot, at least to me, doesn't cut it anymore as an explanation.
Enter plastic Sisters. I'd hate to see GW get greedy because of perceived demand and price them on the high side because they think people will pay any price. I think that's what happened with Witch Elves and I am not convinced that new GW has discarded that kind of pricing mentality just yet.
Would be a shame to see Sisters as a line fail because of this.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
Plastic Thunderhawk.
Available to SoB only.
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Post by: Geifer
Let's be serious here.
"How to Re-Roll Dice"
That book has become an essential since 8th ed.
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Post by: Ben2
Fimir were on the Forgeworld AoS poster, so those are a possibility to come out from them.
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Post by: Mmmpi
Captain Joystick wrote:I'd had a whole shtick ready, "It's a trick! Don't be fooled! They're luring us into a trap!" but I'd hate for Doritos to mistake me for whatever boogeyman he's looking for...
Let me say I'm quite excited, actual signs of progress at last!
Candy apple red for me, with a little black here and there to break it up.
I've been painting mine like mikos. This one won't be different.
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Post by: SickSix
Her backpack has no vents.
Impressive looking model otherwise. Would be impressed if that is fling to be plastic.
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Post by: Geifer
 SickSix wrote:Her backpack has no vents.
Impressive looking model otherwise. Would be impressed if that is fling to be plastic.
Looks like a standard Sororitas backpack to me.
Ignoring for a moment that it's specifically called out as a plastic Sister, you know what would actually impress me? If GW decided to showcase new plastic Sisters with a resin model. That would be prime comedy material. I wouldn't even be mad.
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Post by: BrookM
They're below the bulbs. Just like with regular power armour actually, the larger bulb vents on Space Marine armour are thrusters for zero-G navigation.
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Post by: Haighus
BrookM wrote:They're below the bulbs. Just like with regular power armour actually, the larger bulb vents on Space Marine armour are thrusters for zero-G navigation.
A feature which I find to be really cool about Marine power armour. I wonder if it helps them jump?
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
 Haighus wrote: BrookM wrote:They're below the bulbs. Just like with regular power armour actually, the larger bulb vents on Space Marine armour are thrusters for zero-G navigation.
A feature which I find to be really cool about Marine power armour. I wonder if it helps them jump?
Well, if you take CS Goto seriously, it can help terminators back flip
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Post by: Haighus
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Haighus wrote: BrookM wrote:They're below the bulbs. Just like with regular power armour actually, the larger bulb vents on Space Marine armour are thrusters for zero-G navigation.
A feature which I find to be really cool about Marine power armour. I wonder if it helps them jump?
Well, if you take CS Goto, it can help terminators back flip
Does anyone take CS "multilazor" Goto...? Terminators don't even have them!
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
I forgot to type "seriously" That said, I kind of want there to be an relic called CS Goto's Multilaser. You give it to a character in terminator armor, and it gives him the fly rule.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I forgot to type "seriously"
That said, I kind of want there to be an relic called CS Goto's Multilaser.
You give it to a character in terminator armor, and it gives him the fly rule.
But doesn’t actually have a shooting attack, despite replacing their stormbolter.
On the topic of the preview Sister, I think I’m going to get two; one to paint in my own Order’s heraldry and the other to do up as close to the original as possible.
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Post by: Malika2
Whilst a very pretty model and very true to the artwork, there is something very off about it, bit of an uncanny valley kinda thing.
I shouldn't complain though because....well...plastic Sororitas!
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Post by: Haighus
 Malika2 wrote:Whilst a very pretty model and very true to the artwork, there is something very off about it, bit of an uncanny valley kinda thing.
I shouldn't complain though because....well...plastic Sororitas!
I always get that with renders- I think it is because they have made it in heroic proportions. That looks right on the models, but not on renders.
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
Ben2 wrote:
Fimir were on the Forgeworld AoS poster, so those are a possibility to come out from them.
Given that Forgeworld has been making a few Fimir models.. Not sure why this is so weird now.
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Post by: Ouze
H.B.M.C. wrote:Now I can't unsee the fact that the bolter has two ejection ports.
I get that each side is identical, and it was probably just lazy modelling.... but it actually could make sense. Lets assume it's designed to be ambidextrous, and both of those humps are the same charging handle. Look a some images of the ARX-160; it's like 80% there. Make the hook gigantic and it would look about the same.
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Post by: Haighus
 Ouze wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Now I can't unsee the fact that the bolter has two ejection ports.
I get that each side is identical, and it was probably just lazy modelling.... but it actually could make sense. Lets assume it's designed to be ambidextrous, and both of those humps are the same charging handle. Look a some images of the ARX-160; it's like 80% there. Make the hook gigantic and it would look about the same.
It would be nice if this translated to some left-handed poses on the eventual models. Ambidextrous design was my first thought too.
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Post by: BrookM
Some bolter designs are with the ambidextrous in mind.
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Post by: pretre
I'm looking in my bits box and I have dozens of bolters going back to 3rd edition with dual ejection ports. This has been a thing forever.
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Post by: warboss
BrookM wrote:Some bolter designs are with the ambidextrous in mind.
Some are even apparently designed to be held upside down for certain forgeworld models.
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Post by: Lord Damocles
 pretre wrote:I'm looking in my bits box and I have dozens of bolters going back to 3rd edition with dual ejection ports. This has been a thing forever.
It is specifically the Sororitas' Godwyn- De'az which have always had a single ejection port.
And it's not like their bolters are totally unimportant. From the annotations accompanying the original use of the Kopinsky artwork in Codex: Witch Hunters ( pg.19):
'The standard issue weapon for all Battle Sisters since the Orders Militant were formed, the Godwyn-De'az pattern bolter has remained unchanged for millennia, largely due to its superior performance in comparison to other weapons of its class. But the Godwyn-De'az is much more than a weapon to the Sisters of Battle: it is a symbol of the Emperor's divine judgement, the first and foremost of the 'holy trinity' of bolter, flamer and melta with which the Adepta Sororitas bring justice to the manifold enemies of mankind'.
It's undoubtedly a relatively minor point, and it's not like it significantly detracts from the model; but minor details are important too.
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Post by: pretre
 Lord Damocles wrote: pretre wrote:I'm looking in my bits box and I have dozens of bolters going back to 3rd edition with dual ejection ports. This has been a thing forever.
It is specifically the Sororitas' Godwyn- De'az which have always had a single ejection port. And it's not like their bolters are totally unimportant. From the annotations accompanying the original use of the Kopinsky artwork in Codex: Witch Hunters ( pg.19): 'The standard issue weapon for all Battle Sisters since the Orders Militant were formed, the Godwyn-De'az pattern bolter has remained unchanged for millennia, largely due to its superior performance in comparison to other weapons of its class. But the Godwyn-De'az is much more than a weapon to the Sisters of Battle: it is a symbol of the Emperor's divine judgement, the first and foremost of the 'holy trinity' of bolter, flamer and melta with which the Adepta Sororitas bring justice to the manifold enemies of mankind'. It's undoubtedly a relatively minor point, and it's not like it significantly detracts from the model; but minor details are important too.
Godwyn Deaz changes what it has depending on the artwork. Check out any of the codexes and look for ejection ports on them. Heck, for an unchanging weapon, look at the 2nd edition vs 3rd edition version. They definitely changed. It's a silly thing to get upset over on the new models
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Post by: Thommy H
There's minor details and there's absolutely microscopic details though. If a non-standard ejection system on a particular pattern of fictional weapon on your toy soldiers ruins your immersion in the setting, you may need to take a step back and reconsider your priorities.
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Post by: Lord Damocles
pretre wrote:[Godwyn Deaz changes what it has depending on the artwork. Check out any of the codexes and look for ejection ports on them. Heck, for an unchanging weapon, look at the 2nd edition vs 3rd edition version. They definitely changed.
See, you say that, but can you give me a reference for an illustration from any of the Sisters' Codexes which shows a Godwyn- De'az with an ejection port on the proper right side?
Because I've looked, and I've not seen one.
Thommy H wrote:If a non-standard ejection system on a particular pattern of fictional weapon on your toy soldiers ruins your immersion in the setting, you may need to take a step back and reconsider your priorities.
Who said that my immersion in the setting is ruined by this?
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Post by: pretre
Lord Damocles wrote: pretre wrote:[Godwyn Deaz changes what it has depending on the artwork. Check out any of the codexes and look for ejection ports on them. Heck, for an unchanging weapon, look at the 2nd edition vs 3rd edition version. They definitely changed.
See, you say that, but can you give me a reference for an illustration from any of the Sisters' Codexes which shows a Godwyn- De'az with an ejection port on the proper right side? Because I've looked, and I've not seen one.
 Oh that's not codex. 2nd Ed Codex: P60 (smoking ejection port), P45 (No ejection port/lever on left, so...) Witch Hunters, Cover and page 26, no ejection por/lever on left for model with yellow bolter). Page 10, brass being thrown to the right on a combiweapon. Page 29, all the weapons appear to have right ejection ports
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Post by: gundamz
Yodhrin wrote:It'll be a 25 quid "limited release" plastic model like the anniversary Primaris Sergeant, except this time people might actually buy them. EDIT: That's me speculating, by the way, not event info.
I might pick one up even at that price if the figure has powerful rules, like Guilliman or Belisarius Cawl level. Not impossible.
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Post by: angel of death 007
plastic sisters might be too little too late most of us have settled for others in our long wake. Cost and options might deter that but we shall see
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Post by: Milkshaker
angel of death 007 wrote:plastic sisters might be too little too late most of us have settled for others in our long wake. Cost and options might deter that but we shall see
Most of us? I certainly didn't
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
Splendid model, I love it!
The face is awesome. She looks pissed. She looks irate. She looks like she wants to rip your spinal cord to beat you to death with it. She looks… sororitas!
H.B.M.C. wrote:Can't wait to see the rest of the range, and can't wait to watch our resident SoB players bitch about this endlessly.
Bitch about what? Which players? Are you trying humor in repetition? Or did you miss basically all SoB players being unanimous about Celestine being great and this new model being great?
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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon
He's just salty because he'll lose his favourite "joke" in a few months time.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
More like he's salty because he has already lost it .
Seriously with what GW is bringing up these day, Sisters players are among the least salty of the whole playerbase, lately
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Post by: Mmmpi
So, now that we've had a sign that they're actually working on them, and that the results are coming along very well, I'm switching my "Sisters are Coming" from optimistically cautious to cautiously optimistic.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Seriously with what GW is bringing up these day, Sisters players are among the least salty of the whole playerbase, lately
Yeah nah. You never disappoint Hybrid.
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Post by: mortar_crew
I love absolutely everyting about this model.
Everything. 
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote:Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
Oh, they still have options.
Pariahs.
Warhammer Fantasy Battle
Plastic Thunderhawk
Ork Cheerleaders.
Dark Angles
And that's just from the top of my head.
Actually did Dark Angles a few years back. Something about their acute sense of justice, their obtuse aversion to fear and desire to make things right.
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Post by: Mousemuffins
This is a wonderful rendering, and I'm confident GW can manage the translation to plastic well.
One tiny whinge.
Her gun has no weight. Not as bad as the Squat, and I guess it -could- be excused by power armour. Also (okay, two whinges) her stance with the weight over one hip is not *quite* right, but I'm guessing (again) that this could be excused by 'cos heroic'.
Still, ignore me. It's wonderful anyway and I'm just saddened buy the complete lack of Ork news.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Kid_Kyoto wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote:Damn.
Now what the hell are we going to do for next April Fools?
Oh, they still have options.
Pariahs.
Warhammer Fantasy Battle
Plastic Thunderhawk
Ork Cheerleaders.
Dark Angles
And that's just from the top of my head.
Actually did Dark Angles a few years back. Something about their acute sense of justice, their obtuse aversion to fear and desire to make things right.
I know, it was great
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Post by: Zingraff
That's all right, isn't it.
If this is where they're going stylistically, then I have no reason to be concerned about their redesign, because this is pretty much how I'd like them to look. Also we've seen GW CAD models in the past which looked 100% like the finished counterparts. You can actually tell by how some of the lines slope in or out, how and where the mold lines are going to be, so it's fairly easy to deconstruct the model. All that remains to be seen is whether this represents a character, or the level of detail we should expect for every trooper model.
Karl Kopinski is my favorite GW artist as well, so that's neat.
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Post by: godswildcard
Starting to get excited about this, which is probably bad since we're probably still about 1 year away.
At Warhammer Fest (or Adepticon) did they mention if this was going to be a more 'minimalist' release, kind of like (imho) Grey Knights when they went plastic or more of a complete and total overhaul similar to Dark Eldar?
Please, oh please, GW, whatever you do...DON'T MAKE EVERY SINGLE UNIT LEADER AND UPGRADE ITS OWN $25 PLASTIC CLAMPACK!!
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Post by: John Prins
godswildcard wrote:
Please, oh please, GW, whatever you do...DON'T MAKE EVERY SINGLE UNIT LEADER AND UPGRADE ITS OWN $25 PLASTIC CLAMPACK!!
Don't give them ideas. Already every HQ/Elite single model will be a clampack.
OTOH, I wouldn't put it past GW to make a Forge Bane style boxed set with 2x5 Battle Sisters, 5 Seraphim, 5 Dominion, 5 Retributors and a Canoness versus some new Ork models because you know that would sell a billion copies in a heartbeat and it would shut up 2 sets of players at once.
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Post by: BrookM
It would be the perfect codex primer for sure, or a tie-in to a future campaign book.
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Post by: Geifer
 John Prins wrote: godswildcard wrote:
Please, oh please, GW, whatever you do...DON'T MAKE EVERY SINGLE UNIT LEADER AND UPGRADE ITS OWN $25 PLASTIC CLAMPACK!!
Don't give them ideas. Already every HQ/Elite single model will be a clampack.
OTOH, I wouldn't put it past GW to make a Forge Bane style boxed set with 2x5 Battle Sisters, 5 Seraphim, 5 Dominion, 5 Retributors and a Canoness versus some new Ork models because you know that would sell a billion copies in a heartbeat and it would shut up 2 sets of players at once.
Considering we won't see Sisters until 2019, I'm pretty sure that the Ork players would scream bloody murder rather than shut up.
Plus everyone knows a Sanctuary 101 set would be best.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
I'm partial to some Sisters vs Genestealer cultists or Chaos cultists myself.
Sisters raiding on some hive, fighting off masively outnumbering opponents that are dangerous heretics, speaks to me.
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Post by: BrookM
I doubt we'll see a Sanctuary 101 set, as these campaign sets seem to be more geared towards the current time line instead of the past.
Sisters versus Orks on Armageddon is always a thing.
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Post by: Geifer
BrookM wrote:I doubt we'll see a Sanctuary 101 set, as these campaign sets seem to be more geared towards the current time line instead of the past.
Sisters versus Orks on Armageddon is always a thing.
That's certainly the biggest con to a Sanctuary 101 set. Too much ancient history.
I'm not aware that Sisters featured prominently before on Armageddon and I think they are too prone to going for what they consider iconic match-ups to throw Sisters against Orks (plus personally I think Armageddon will just be a Baal 2.0: Orks are at the brink of a massive victory, then some Khornates swoop in to save the day). Cultists as Hybrid suggests are more of a thing. Even Genestealer Cults that are technically xenos are the enemy within that Sisters should be fighting.
Most importantly though I think GW would rather take the chance to give us the latest on Guilliman's relationship with the Ecclesiarchy with a campaign box, so if I had to guess I'd say it'll be an army of faith taking the fight back to Chaos (perhaps on what's left of Cadia) than some random xenos.
Oh, I know. Plastic Sisters happen just in time for the rumored Slaanesh releases. Now there's a match-up worth thinking about!
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Post by: BrookM
Sisters have a convent on Armageddon and the reason why the robes of the Order of Our Martyred Lady are crimson is because of the losses sustained there.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
Very happy to see some movement on the SoB front. Model looks great to boot! Already excited to start my first Imperium army.
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Post by: Kawauso
I am so ready for this.
Saving now so that I can just jump right in with a new army the second these come out of the gates.
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Post by: womprat49
That face. It's a man with a wig on!
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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon
If I any harder, my eyes will disappear into the back of my head.
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Post by: MonkeyBallistic
That face is perfect! She looks totally badass.
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Post by: Geifer
She certainly looks like she's reacting to that comment.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
That face is really good you philistine. [edit]Is "philistine" ok by rule #1? If I'm banned I want my last word to officially be "Bye, cruel world!!!"[/edit]
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Post by: BrookM
If in doubt simply don't post it.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
That face is really good you philistine.
[edit]Is "philistine" ok by rule #1? If I'm banned I want my last word to officially be "Bye, cruel world!!!"[/edit]
Not really. If they were copying the artwork then they messed up a bit there. Tad too heavy. Its not bad, but they could have done better in making a faithful version of the art.
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Post by: Haighus
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: That face is really good you philistine. [edit]Is "philistine" ok by rule #1? If I'm banned I want my last word to officially be "Bye, cruel world!!!"[/edit]
Not really. If they were copying the artwork then they messed up a bit there. Tad too heavy. Its not bad, but they could have done better in making a faithful version of the art.
Could they at 28mm heroic though? Remember this isn't supposed to be a truescale display piece, but a functional character model that can be used on the tabletop and that fits in with the other existing models. All 28mm heroic models make compromises on proportions, and this is most obvious at the render stage. The actual model will likely look much better alongside other models on the tabletop because of it, than if they'd more faithfully followed the source material.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Haighus wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
That face is really good you philistine.
[edit]Is "philistine" ok by rule #1? If I'm banned I want my last word to officially be "Bye, cruel world!!!"[/edit]
Not really. If they were copying the artwork then they messed up a bit there. Tad too heavy. Its not bad, but they could have done better in making a faithful version of the art.
Could they at 28mm heroic though? Remember this isn't supposed to be a truescale display piece, but a functional character model that can be used on the tabletop and that fits in with the other existing models. All 28mm heroic models make compromises on proportions, and this is most obvious at the render stage. The actual model will likely look much better alongside other models on the tabletop because of it, than if they'd more faithfully followed the source material.
Ok, that's fair a fair point. Don't the Elven models have thin faces though? I mean, structurally speaking the sister's face in the artwork would be like an Elf's or Eldar's model wise.
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Post by: Haighus
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Haighus wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:Not really. If they were copying the artwork then they messed up a bit there. Tad too heavy. Its not bad, but they could have done better in making a faithful version of the art.
Could they at 28mm heroic though? Remember this isn't supposed to be a truescale display piece, but a functional character model that can be used on the tabletop and that fits in with the other existing models. All 28mm heroic models make compromises on proportions, and this is most obvious at the render stage. The actual model will likely look much better alongside other models on the tabletop because of it, than if they'd more faithfully followed the source material.
Ok, that's fair a fair point. Don't the Elven models have thin faces though? I mean, structurally speaking the sister's face in the artwork would be like an Elf's or Eldar's model wise.
They do, but I think they are intentionally made thinner than human faces, and are still chunkier than their own artwork equivalents (which are generally somewhat more slender than human artwork).
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Haighus wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote: Haighus wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:Not really. If they were copying the artwork then they messed up a bit there. Tad too heavy. Its not bad, but they could have done better in making a faithful version of the art.
Could they at 28mm heroic though? Remember this isn't supposed to be a truescale display piece, but a functional character model that can be used on the tabletop and that fits in with the other existing models. All 28mm heroic models make compromises on proportions, and this is most obvious at the render stage. The actual model will likely look much better alongside other models on the tabletop because of it, than if they'd more faithfully followed the source material.
Ok, that's fair a fair point. Don't the Elven models have thin faces though? I mean, structurally speaking the sister's face in the artwork would be like an Elf's or Eldar's model wise.
They do, but I think they are intentionally made thinner than human faces, and are still chunkier than their own artwork equivalents (which are generally somewhat more slender than human artwork).
Yeah I can understand that. It would be nice if they were more faithful to the art, but if they can't because of technical restraints then that's that I guess.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
CthuluIsSpy wrote:Not really. If they were copying the artwork then they messed up a bit there.
Well I really like it.
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Post by: Haighus
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Yeah I can understand that. It would be nice if they were more faithful to the art, but if they can't because of technical restraints then that's that I guess.
I wouldn't say it is technical constraints so much as a conscious design choice to go with heroic proportions on the model to make them practical game pieces. Having said this, that could've been a technical restraint several decades ago, and now they are stuck with the aesthetic.
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Post by: Captain Brown
I think the test model looks very similar to the old esthetic and for that I am happy.
My two cents,
CB
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Post by: BrotherGecko
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
That face is really good you philistine.
[edit]Is "philistine" ok by rule #1? If I'm banned I want my last word to officially be "Bye, cruel world!!!"[/edit]
Not really. If they were copying the artwork then they messed up a bit there. Tad too heavy. Its not bad, but they could have done better in making a faithful version of the art.
Well I guess you better start hitting the YouTube contouring tutorials and beauty vloggers when you go to paint your Sororitas.
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Post by: MonkeyBallistic
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
That face is really good you philistine.
[edit]Is "philistine" ok by rule #1? If I'm banned I want my last word to officially be "Bye, cruel world!!!"[/edit]
Not really. If they were copying the artwork then they messed up a bit there. Tad too heavy. Its not bad, but they could have done better in making a faithful version of the art.
I actually think the mini is better than the art.
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Post by: Ssgt Carl
What I don’t understand is why I still have to drill out barrels. I have a hard time believing it would have been impossible/difficult to cast this win a small recess in the barrel of the bolter
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Post by: BrookM
It can be done, see the barrels of the Baneblade heavy bolters, it's just not something they wheel out for every kit.
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I don't mind drilling out barrels. Gotta put that pin vise to use, after all
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Post by: ImAGeek
Ssgt Carl wrote:What I don’t understand is why I still have to drill out barrels. I have a hard time believing it would have been impossible/difficult to cast this win a small recess in the barrel of the bolter
BrookM wrote:It can be done, see the barrels of the Baneblade heavy bolters, it's just not something they wheel out for every kit.
Yeah, I think predrilled barrels requires sliding pins in the mould (I think they mentioned it in WD when the baneblade was released), which I imagine increases the cost dramatically. It’s probably not feasible on every kit.
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Post by: Geifer
Or separate muzzle halves which is cheaper as it's only separate bits on the sprue, but so fiddly on a tiny bolter that you don't want it there.
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Post by: BrookM
 ImAGeek wrote:Ssgt Carl wrote:What I don’t understand is why I still have to drill out barrels. I have a hard time believing it would have been impossible/difficult to cast this win a small recess in the barrel of the bolter
BrookM wrote:It can be done, see the barrels of the Baneblade heavy bolters, it's just not something they wheel out for every kit.
Yeah, I think predrilled barrels requires sliding pins in the mould (I think they mentioned it in WD when the baneblade was released), which I imagine increases the cost dramatically. It’s probably not feasible on every kit.
Correct, the Baneblade was GW's first kit to use a special slide-mold and it's something they tend to only use sparingly.
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Post by: John Prins
It's fine for SoB to look like hardcases.
Because they're supposed to be hardcases.
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Post by: Captain Joystick
I wonder if they could engineer a dimple on the bolter barrel that could guide the drill bit to keep it centered?
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Post by: Imateria
BrookM wrote:I doubt we'll see a Sanctuary 101 set, as these campaign sets seem to be more geared towards the current time line instead of the past.
Sisters versus Orks on Armageddon is always a thing.
On the other hand, Deathwatch Overkill was set before Hive Fleet Behemoth's invasion, so we have recent precedent of sets that are set before the 13th Balck Crusade. The fact that was meant as board game does count against it though.
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Post by: Popsghostly
 Ssgt Carl wrote:What I don’t understand is why I still have to drill out barrels. I have a hard time believing it would have been impossible/difficult to cast this win a small recess in the barrel of the bolter
This is a weird pet peeve, that is, seeing a beautifully painted miniature without the barrel drilled-out.
That said, I enjoy doing it until I miscenter the drill-bit inevitably always ruining whatever the leader of my squad's gun lol.
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Post by: Azazelx
H.B.M.C. wrote:Looks great. Wonderful centrepiece model.
Can't wait to see the rest of the range, and can't wait to watch our resident SoB players bitch about this endlessly.
She's got pointy knees. Would not hit. NEXT!
(Sarcasm, btw).
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Post by: Pendix
That is pretty dam cool! I look forward to more updates as this progresses.
And, honestly; even if the plastic (or possibly resin) final product is not as cool as the render, this is still a clear indication of direction and intent. Using that particular, iconic, piece of art for their first render; It's a pretty dam clear message to send.
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Post by: Haighus
 Pendix wrote:That is pretty dam cool! I look forward to more updates as this progresses. And, honestly; even if the plastic (or possibly resin) final product is not as cool as the render, this is still a clear indication of direction and intent. Using that particular, iconic, piece of art for their first render; It's a pretty dam clear message to send.
One of the posts announcing it mentioned it was plastic Sat 12.30pm – Live Blog 5: A Plastic Sister of Battle!
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
Goodbye cruel world!!! Automatically Appended Next Post:
And, for what it's worth, the GW social media team said multiple time in the facebook comment that it was plastic rather than resin.
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Post by: Zingraff
 Popsghostly wrote: Ssgt Carl wrote:What I don’t understand is why I still have to drill out barrels. I have a hard time believing it would have been impossible/difficult to cast this win a small recess in the barrel of the bolter
This is a weird pet peeve, that is, seeing a beautifully painted miniature without the barrel drilled-out.
That said, I enjoy doing it until I miscenter the drill-bit inevitably always ruining whatever the leader of my squad's gun lol.
I find that's easy to avoid if you mark the centre first with a fine awl, because the drill bit will catch on to the mark you've made and prevent it from slipping. You can improvise an awl using the spike from a compass.
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Captain Joystick wrote:I wonder if they could engineer a dimple on the bolter barrel that could guide the drill bit to keep it centered?
That would definitely be cool, both for the people that drill their barrels, and I imagine a drop of wash would settle there to create at least an illusion of depth for those barbarians that don't drill.
Popsghostly wrote:That said, I enjoy doing it until I miscenter the drill-bit inevitably always ruining whatever the leader of my squad's gun lol.
I usually just eyeball it myself and yeah, once in a while I've done exactly that. However it's pretty easy to do it 100% right - use your hobby knife to gently scribe a line splitting the barrel face in half, then in quarters. Then drill out the crosshair and you're golden.
Thommy H wrote: Casbyness wrote:
The ornate base and scars are a bit much. I think this model is great for representing Miriya though.
The scars are in the original art tbf:
Side note, are any of you guys planning on painting in this scheme exactly? Cause I kind of have some issues with it. I mean, black and red, that's like peanut butter and jelly, obviously. But it feels like a little of the little blingy pieces are too muted to me, you know? The fleurs and iconography on the chest and knees, the rosary beads, don't those seem like they should be gold?
Also, how do you guys paint the fleur on the face? That seems impossibly tiny to me.
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Post by: Ignispacium
The sister is from the Order of our Martyred Lady. So the 'canonical' paint scheme is the one in the art.
That said, paint them however you like. I prefer Argent Shroud, but I'll be painting this to match the art and the icons on the miniature.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
Painting her with my usual color scheme, so black armor, golden shoulderpads golden details, white/blue robes, red cables, black skin, blonde hair and an old-school red bolter.
Not painting any fleur de lys tatoo on my mini, I don't like it.
Also I just noticed how the sculptor departed from the original artwork to make it closer to the current/previous miniature range, with details like :
- the mid-chest cable
- the button holes on the loincloth
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Post by: godswildcard
I’ve always been a big fan of the ‘Aztec’ themed sister of battle who’s image floats around every now and then. I realize that some people aren’t big fans for fluff reasons, but I’m thinking that I may try and do that theme since I’m painting Some Kukulkani for Dark Age that should give me some good experience.
Edit:
Here’s a link to a thread I started in 2013 about sisters and paint schemes. I’m sure there are plenty others, but this has the thumbnail I’m referencing and some other good info. It’s an old thread, so look, dont touch!
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/558296.page
Edit 2:
Just added the thumbnail
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Post by: Geifer
Ouze wrote:Side note, are any of you guys planning on painting in this scheme exactly? Cause I kind of have some issues with it. I mean, black and red, that's like peanut butter and jelly, obviously. But it feels like a little of the little blingy pieces are too muted to me, you know? The fleurs and iconography on the chest and knees, the rosary beads, don't those seem like they should be gold?
Also, how do you guys paint the fleur on the face? That seems impossibly tiny to me.
I will likely paint mine with my custom order color scheme. I'm fairly happy with it. Beige armor, dark brown tabard outside, vivid red inside, gold bling, silver metal bits. Oh, also mine are all raging redheads.
The only one I've never gotten around to deciding what to do with is Celestine, because I keep hoping (foolishly) for a generic living saint, so not sure whether I can and(or want to have Celestine, not-Celestine or something completely different. But for normal Sisters I'm much happier to have them fit with my army rather than being solitary tributes to the art they're based on.
The tattoo, I'd say it's impossible to paint faithfully. You could upscale it to make it doable, but whether that looks the part or just too large for the face you paint it on remains a question. If you like this sort of stuff, you're better off hoping for Repentias with large areas of bare skin. Fleur de lys tattoos work there.
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Post by: Manchu
This is smart damage control in the context of their bizarre March non-statement that Sisters might, at some point, maybe, who knows when, be released in 2019, Emperor willing ... oh and by the way, a (non)announcement accompanied by nothing visual - not even concept art. That was a real "thanks for nothing" moment. By contrast, here we have a gorgeous model that demonstrates exacting faithfulness to the authentic Sisters of Battle design concept, while seemingly pushing GW quality forward, too.
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Post by: oomiestompa
Ouze wrote:
Also, how do you guys paint the fleur on the face? That seems impossibly tiny to me.
Sisters are getting a new mini range, maybe they'll get transfers too? Tiny, tiny transfers.
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Post by: Haighus
 Manchu wrote:This is smart damage control in the context of their bizarre March non-statement that Sisters might, at some point, maybe, who knows when, be released in 2019, Emperor willing ... oh and by the way, a (non)announcement accompanied by nothing visual - not even concept art. That was a real "thanks for nothing" moment. By contrast, here we have a gorgeous model that demonstrates exacting faithfulness to the authentic Sisters of Battle design concept, while seemingly pushing GW quality forward, too.
They said they would involve the community in the design process more than any prior model release in recent times, therefore I think this is more following through with a promise than damage control. Welcome either way though!
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Post by: Stormonu
They need to be painted pink with white highlights.
Actually, the “canonical” scheme might pop more with some beige/white arms sleeves and legs,
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Post by: Mentlegen324
Manchu wrote:This is smart damage control in the context of their bizarre March non-statement that Sisters might, at some point, maybe, who knows when, be released in 2019, Emperor willing ... oh and by the way, a (non)announcement accompanied by nothing visual - not even concept art. That was a real "thanks for nothing" moment. By contrast, here we have a gorgeous model that demonstrates exacting faithfulness to the authentic Sisters of Battle design concept, while seemingly pushing GW quality forward, too.
Fans waited and have been asking for new models for years and it seemed like something that probably wasn't going to happen considering it had become more of a joke. The announcement lacked anything because they just started working on them, it isn't a negative thing to let us know that they've properly started to work on the thing players have been asking for for many, many years. Telling us about them so early made sense considering how long the wait has been and even an announcement they were even being worked on was a good and unexpected thing.
They even said that they'd try something new and keep us updated as they work on them, so showing early concepts, previews etc and that's what this is, i don't think it's in any way because of the previous announcement needing "damage control". It's a new approach rather than just suddenly announcing then releasing them like they usually do.
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Post by: John Prins
Ouze wrote:
Also, how do you guys paint the fleur on the face? That seems impossibly tiny to me.
Years ago I had a brush with only 3 hairs remaining, I could paint some very tiny stuff with that. Take an old brush (00 or smaller) and start cutting away hairs until you've got down to only a few left, and you've got a very fine point. Just be sure to use well thinned paints, probably with a drying inhibitor, because you'll have so little on the brush it will dry out quickly.
Realistically, though, I wouldn't bother with a face tattoo. Maybe Forge World will put out a decal pack for SoB with tiny fleurs.
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Post by: Geifer
Mentlegen324 wrote: Manchu wrote:This is smart damage control in the context of their bizarre March non-statement that Sisters might, at some point, maybe, who knows when, be released in 2019, Emperor willing ... oh and by the way, a (non)announcement accompanied by nothing visual - not even concept art. That was a real "thanks for nothing" moment. By contrast, here we have a gorgeous model that demonstrates exacting faithfulness to the authentic Sisters of Battle design concept, while seemingly pushing GW quality forward, too.
Fans waited and have been asking for new models for years and it seemed like something that probably wasn't going to happen considering it had become more of a joke. The announcement lacked anything because they just started working on them, it isn't a negative thing to let us know that they've properly started to work on the thing players have been asking for for many, many years. Telling us about them so early made sense considering how long the wait has been and even an announcement they were even being worked on was a good and unexpected thing.
They even said that they'd try something new and keep us updated as they work on them, so showing early concepts, previews etc and that's what this is, i don't think it's in any way because of the previous announcement needing "damage control". It's a new approach rather than just suddenly announcing then releasing them like they usually do.
While I don't quite share Manchu's outlook, everything (without exception) about plastic Sisters is damage control. GW was in on the Sisters joke, until they realized it wasn't a joke.
There's really no graceful way for GW to go about this. Eventually, provided the release is good, we can talk about letting go of past slights. Until then it's just unrealistic to expect everyone to jump on the damage control train with equal enthusiasm.
And just because I think I've neglected to mention it in a while:
Emperor Willing!
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Post by: BrookM
Decals that tiny are a horrible ordeal to work with though.
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Post by: Manchu
Geifer wrote:[...]everything (without exception) about plastic Sisters is damage control. GW was in on the Sisters joke, until they realized it wasn't a joke.
100% correct here. Plastic Sisters of ... Silence wasn't funny to me. Finding plastic Sisters in a bin wasn't funny to me. Re-setting a clock whenever someone asked about plastic Sisters wasn't funny to me. "Announcing" that there might be, maybe, perhaps, conceivably be plastic Sisters in 2019 was neither funny nor impressive nor celebratory to me. All of these "jokes" amount to trolling, from my perspective.
But now we have something meaningful, even if it's just a render. And its a really gorgeous render, at that. To me, it is at least a reassurance if not a lowkey apology. I look at this render and to me it feels like GW is saying, look we get this is serious and look how seriously we are taking this now. I appreciate that immensely. Geifer wrote:And just because I think I've neglected to mention it in a while:
Emperor Willing!
Sure, let's not forget this is all conditional (on who knows what), after all.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
Geifer wrote:GW was in on the Sisters joke, until they realized it wasn't a joke.
I like how you phrase it!
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Edit: doesn’t matter.
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Post by: John Prins
BrookM wrote:Decals that tiny are a horrible ordeal to work with though.
I didn't say it would be easy.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Micron pens, people. I will never try and do text or teeny-weeny things with brushes again.
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Post by: Haighus
Yodhrin wrote:Micron pens, people. I will never try and do text or teeny-weeny things with brushes again.
Now I am intrigued. Going to have to look this up.
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Post by: Revarien
7years ago (and through all this time) I was prepared to drop 1k on a new Sisters army if they came out in plastic.
I'm now married, have a house, have a kid on the way (wife is due in the next couple of weeks), and I HIGHLY doubt I'll drop that on them.
I might pick up a box purely for edification, but god damn they missed the boat on some people. Surely not everyone that played then is still in a place that they haven't moved on? Like... the model is nice and beautiful, but where the hell was this 5-6 years ago?!
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Post by: Pendix
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
And, for what it's worth, the GW social media team said multiple time in the facebook comment that it was plastic rather than resin.
Fair enough. Hadn't realised they had taken steps to confirm that. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by: drbored
Manchu wrote: Geifer wrote:[...]everything (without exception) about plastic Sisters is damage control. GW was in on the Sisters joke, until they realized it wasn't a joke.
100% correct here. Plastic Sisters of ... Silence wasn't funny to me. Finding plastic Sisters in a bin wasn't funny to me. Re-setting a clock whenever someone asked about plastic Sisters wasn't funny to me. "Announcing" that there might be, maybe, perhaps, conceivably be plastic Sisters in 2019 was neither funny nor impressive nor celebratory to me. All of these "jokes" amount to trolling, from my perspective.
But now we have something meaningful, even if it's just a render. And its a really gorgeous render, at that. To me, it is at least a reassurance if not a lowkey apology. I look at this render and to me it feels like GW is saying, look we get this is serious and look how seriously we are taking this now. I appreciate that immensely. Geifer wrote:And just because I think I've neglected to mention it in a while:
Emperor Willing!
Sure, let's not forget this is all conditional (on who knows what), after all.
I feel the same way. I'd hear on Warhammer TV when someone would pester the team about plastic sisters, they'd always mention the sisters of silence, but going back and watching that original teaser video, they said, without a doubt, "plastic sisters of battle."
And then we got Celestine as a pittance. It's great to see them turning around. I took stock of some reactions on Facebook (and even posted the information I'm about to share on the Warhammer 40k FB page, but it got deleted, I wonder why )
The plastic sisters render got 3,700 reactions.
The Necron FW construct revealed at Warhammer Fest got 1,900 reactions.
The Rogue Trader teaser got about 1,800 reactions.
The only thing that came close to number of reactions to the render of one model is the Big FAQ, which got 3,400 reactions. LESS than the sisters, and you know that many of those reactions were not positive ones.
A lot of 40k players are salty that 40k didn't get much attention during Warhammer Fest, but to me, that one plastic sisters render means a lot more than anything they could have announced. It's a bit of solidarity, a reassurance that they are listening, and that they're sticking to the design they've already established for the Sisters of Battle and updating it to reflect their updated skill and technology.
The whole 'Emperor Willing' thing is just a way of saying 'Look, we're shooting for end of 2019, but if anything happens, it may be 2020, so, like, don't murder us.'
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Post by: Mmmpi
Actually I'm glad that it's end of 2019.
We're supposed to get our Beta rules in this years Chapter Approved (2018), so a late 2019 release gives them time to gather feed-back on the army before it goes to publishing.
I'd be rather off put if they released a Beta in December, and announced that the whole codex would be available in say, March, considering it typically takes a three month turn around for publishing.
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Post by: Geifer
 Mmmpi wrote:Actually I'm glad that it's end of 2019.
We're supposed to get our Beta rules in this years Chapter Approved (2018), so a late 2019 release gives them time to gather feed-back on the army before it goes to publishing.
I'd be rather off put if they released a Beta in December, and announced that the whole codex would be available in say, March, considering it typically takes a three month turn around for publishing.
Realistically the reason such a gap isn't just possible but to be expected is because they only started the Sisters project two or three months ago, so they couldn't really speed up especially model production (which obviously determines when the codex is released). Whipping up some rules to put into Chapter Approved (if that's where the beta rules end up in) is easy by comparison, especially since the faction isn't new and they have a foundation in the index already.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
godswildcard wrote:I’ve always been a big fan of the ‘Aztec’ themed sister of battle who’s image floats around every now and then. I realize that some people aren’t big fans for fluff reasons, but I’m thinking that I may try and do that theme since I’m painting Some Kukulkani for Dark Age that should give me some good experience.
Kitbashing with Necromunda Escher and perhaps even Seraphon or Tzeentch daemons for feathers would work there.
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Post by: monarda
Haighus wrote: Yodhrin wrote:Micron pens, people. I will never try and do text or teeny-weeny things with brushes again.
Now I am intrigued. Going to have to look this up.
I'm also intrigued. Any hints on how to use them?
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Post by: His Master's Voice
Just write on the model. The ink adheres to acrylic surfaces and is waterproof, so you can paint and glaze it over. The smallest nib I know of is 0.15mm, so you can get some pretty decent detail.
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Post by: Yodhrin
 His Master's Voice wrote:
Just write on the model. The ink adheres to acrylic surfaces and is waterproof, so you can paint and glaze it over. The smallest nib I know of is 0.15mm, so you can get some pretty decent detail.
Yup. You have to be a bit gentle, obviously, but they're incredibly useful and you can get them in a reasonable range of colours.
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Post by: Mmmpi
Geifer wrote: Mmmpi wrote:Actually I'm glad that it's end of 2019.
We're supposed to get our Beta rules in this years Chapter Approved (2018), so a late 2019 release gives them time to gather feed-back on the army before it goes to publishing.
I'd be rather off put if they released a Beta in December, and announced that the whole codex would be available in say, March, considering it typically takes a three month turn around for publishing.
Realistically the reason such a gap isn't just possible but to be expected is because they only started the Sisters project two or three months ago, so they couldn't really speed up especially model production (which obviously determines when the codex is released). Whipping up some rules to put into Chapter Approved (if that's where the beta rules end up in) is easy by comparison, especially since the faction isn't new and they have a foundation in the index already.
Oh yeah, it makes perfect sense. However, the CA dex is supposed to include things like relics, and (if I'm remembering correctly) "chapter traits"
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Geifer wrote:... everything (without exception) about plastic Sisters is damage control.
Manchu wrote:Plastic Sisters of ... Silence wasn't funny to me. Finding plastic Sisters in a bin wasn't funny to me. Re-setting a clock whenever someone asked about plastic Sisters wasn't funny to me. "Announcing" that there might be, maybe, perhaps, conceivably be plastic Sisters in 2019 was neither funny nor impressive nor celebratory to me. All of these "jokes" amount to trolling, from my perspective.
There it is! Took us 9 pages, but we got there in the end.
Hive fives all 'round everyone!
Damage control? I mean honestly... do you actually believe that? Genuinely? Or do you maybe perhaps think that GW, a company that has spent over a decade shutting out its customer base and treating them like a necessary evil finally put a big survey out into the wild and, to their surprise, found an overwhelming desire for Sisters of Battle to be taken seriously as an army, and therefore responded accordingly by actually starting the process of making them?
"Damage control" vs "Company coming out of its self-imposed shell responding to customer feedback".
Don't need Occam's Razor to see which is the more likely. And the least melodramatic.
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Post by: Geifer
H.B.M.C. wrote:"Damage control" vs "Company coming out of its self-imposed shell responding to customer feedback".
You act like these are mutually exclusive.
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Post by: Manchu
He answered his own question, Geifer.
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Post by: Captain Joystick
Micron pens are indeed great. They're my little secret for purity seals, scrollwork, and eyes.
For a tattoo on skin I think the best way to do it would be to dilute the colour a bit by applying the pen before the last, lightest fleshtone that would go on that surface.
H.B.M.C. wrote:There it is! Took us 9 pages, but we got there in the end.
Hive fives all 'round everyone!
Some grumbling nine pages in? I'm flabbergasted! Truly an unprecedented level of toxicity!
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
Captain Joystick wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:There it is! Took us 9 pages, but we got there in the end. Hive fives all 'round everyone!
Some grumbling nine pages in? I'm flabbergasted! Truly an unprecedented level of toxicity!
It only happens on Sisters of Battle threads though. For every other faction, after 1000 pages, you still cannot find ANY complaint AT ALL! Very unique!
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Captain Joystick wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:There it is! Took us 9 pages, but we got there in the end.
Hive fives all 'round everyone!
Some grumbling nine pages in? I'm flabbergasted! Truly an unprecedented level of toxicity!
It only happens on Sisters of Battle threads though. For every other faction, after 1000 pages, you still cannot find ANY complaint AT ALL! Very unique!
Ah yes, overly exaggerated sarcasm from people who have helped turned threads into SoB threads when they weren't originally about them. Riveting really!
At least it took a while before we got the conspiracy theory though. Loving the model, hope we'll see more.. I wonder if we'll finally get some rather uniqueish SoB kits that don't just feature more basic flamers and meltas.
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turn
 ZebioLizard2 wrote:I wonder if we'll finally get some rather uniqueish SoB kits that don't just feature more basic flamers and meltas.
In the same vein as the exorcist, then. Would be great.
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
Oh yeah, I really wouldn't mind more weird church imagery turned weaponry. I kind of want missionaries with loud hailers that's able to tune them up into pseudo sonic weapons. If those things can reach near hundreds to thousands of people in a huge area, I really want to see it turned up to max when enemies are near. Though not too sure how fitting it'd look in the army proper.
Though at this point I would prefer more sanctified weaponry that doesn't entirely rely upon Acts of Faith. They're able to consecrate bolters, their hand to hand weaponry and there's even holy promethium that isn't represented. I'd love to see options in that vein that allows for decent hand to hand without changing the base statline too much, but by giving interesting new melee weaponry out to new squads.. Maybe go the crusader route where they are armed with shields and can protect nearby squads.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
ZebioLizard2 wrote:I kind of want missionaries with loud hailers that's able to tune them up into pseudo sonic weapons. If those things can reach near hundreds to thousands of people in a huge area, I really want to see it turned up to max when enemies are near. Though not too sure how fitting it'd look in the army proper.
How would you explain it not hurting nearby allies?
Personally what I'd love to see if some thing that's already present in the background to be translated to insane weaponry: Ecclesiarchal love for reliquaries/remains of long-dead saints. Something along a 40k version of the WFB Grail Reliquae:
Replace, or even better, supplement the crazy unwashed frateris militia with crazy expensive archeo-technology with antigrav stuff and force fields, and you get your fighting skeleton that isn't technically an undead .
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Post by: jake
 Revarien wrote:7years ago (and through all this time) I was prepared to drop 1k on a new Sisters army if they came out in plastic.
I'm now married, have a house, have a kid on the way (wife is due in the next couple of weeks), and I HIGHLY doubt I'll drop that on them.
I might pick up a box purely for edification, but god damn they missed the boat on some people. Surely not everyone that played then is still in a place that they haven't moved on? Like... the model is nice and beautiful, but where the hell was this 5-6 years ago?!
Same here. Sisters were the first army I bought, way back in 2nd edition. I switched to Marines in 3rd edition and spent probably $600 on models, but what I wanted to spend that money on was new Sisters. Close to $800 on Tyranids in 4th, because i wanted to keep playing. But what I really wanted was Sisters, eventually I realized GW wasn't just about to release them, so I left. Since then I've probably spent a few thousand dollars on games that actually give me what I want. That money could have been GWs. These days my gaming budget isn't very big, and while i'm super excited for new Sisters, I doubt I'll be able to buy much.
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: ZebioLizard2 wrote:I kind of want missionaries with loud hailers that's able to tune them up into pseudo sonic weapons. If those things can reach near hundreds to thousands of people in a huge area, I really want to see it turned up to max when enemies are near. Though not too sure how fitting it'd look in the army proper.
How would you explain it not hurting nearby allies?
Personally what I'd love to see if some thing that's already present in the background to be translated to insane weaponry: Ecclesiarchal love for reliquaries/remains of long-dead saints. Something along a 40k version of the WFB Grail Reliquae:
Replace, or even better, supplement the crazy unwashed frateris militia with crazy expensive archeo-technology with antigrav stuff and force fields, and you get your fighting skeleton that isn't technically an undead .
Because they are emboldened through faith! Nah I wouldn't know how to explain it.
But yeah, the old idea of having a dedicated group just holding an entire box containing a single finger or head of a saint would be nice to bring back.
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
 jake wrote: Revarien wrote:7years ago (and through all this time) I was prepared to drop 1k on a new Sisters army if they came out in plastic.
I'm now married, have a house, have a kid on the way (wife is due in the next couple of weeks), and I HIGHLY doubt I'll drop that on them.
I might pick up a box purely for edification, but god damn they missed the boat on some people. Surely not everyone that played then is still in a place that they haven't moved on? Like... the model is nice and beautiful, but where the hell was this 5-6 years ago?!
Same here. Sisters were the first army I bought, way back in 2nd edition. I switched to Marines in 3rd edition and spent probably $600 on models, but what I wanted to spend that money on was new Sisters. Close to $800 on Tyranids in 4th, because i wanted to keep playing. But what I really wanted was Sisters, eventually I realized GW wasn't just about to release them, so I left. Since then I've probably spent a few thousand dollars on games that actually give me what I want. That money could have been GWs. These days my gaming budget isn't very big, and while i'm super excited for new Sisters, I doubt I'll be able to buy much.
Buy small and build up slowly over time? You don't need $1k worth of figures right out of the gate (or $800 or $600 or whatever). Unless you can build and paint at the speeds of GMM studios that huge purchase of minis would just become one big plastic pile of shame. Buy a box at a time and enjoy the fact that you are getting something now that you've wanted for years.
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Post by: Zefig
Captain Joystick wrote:Micron pens are indeed great. They're my little secret for purity seals, scrollwork, and eyes.
For a tattoo on skin I think the best way to do it would be to dilute the colour a bit by applying the pen before the last, lightest fleshtone that would go on that surface.
I'd echo everything here about micron pens. I think the tattoos might even look fine if you just do them before the last wash. Don't try to write with them over gloss or semi-gloss though, it won't work.
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Post by: Strg Alt
Revarien wrote:7years ago (and through all this time) I was prepared to drop 1k on a new Sisters army if they came out in plastic.
I'm now married, have a house, have a kid on the way (wife is due in the next couple of weeks), and I HIGHLY doubt I'll drop that on them.
I might pick up a box purely for edification, but god damn they missed the boat on some people. Surely not everyone that played then is still in a place that they haven't moved on? Like... the model is nice and beautiful, but where the hell was this 5-6 years ago?!
I would have collected a sisters army ten years ago but nowadays there isn´t time left for such a commitment. So I will just purchase the cover art mini and be done with it.
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Post by: Kawauso
Please please PLEASE GW, just upgrade the existing model into a modern kit.
I have a mighty need for plastic organ-tanks.
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Post by: vitki
Fits right in with the theme of penance
Of course all the taking of the Emperor's name in vain would require more penance though...
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Post by: Nostromodamus
Sounds like an Emperor’s Children project...
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
I believe Kawauso meant the musical kind of organ.
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Post by: Breotan
H.B.M.C. wrote:Don't need Occam's Razor to see which is the more likely. And the least melodramatic.
Dakkadakka. Where there's no drama like melodrama.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
A new Exorcist can't just be the FW one in plastic (or something similar). It would lose all of the audacity of metal/plastic one.
And GW has shown that they aren't afraid to weaponise religion where appropriate, and for something like the Exorcist, it is entirely appropriate.
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Post by: exliontamer
HA. Now I just want to see some EC player kitbash a bunch of dick and boob tanks.
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Post by: John Prins
I really hope GW re-does the Exorcist to look a bit more functional. The pipe organ aesthetic is nice, but with all the pipes leaning backwards, it doesn't look like a weapon at all. If they did a bit more of this:
or this: 
and made it look like banks or organ pipes you could actually aim at the enemy, I'd be happy. A bit more form follows function, please.
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Post by: ph34r
I mean, a key part of the organ musical instrument is that the pipes go 'up'... what with ballistic missiles often launching straight up before either quickly or gradually changing their orientation to be on target, shooting your missiles straight up seems pretty reasonable.
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Post by: Kawauso
Yeah, I always took it to be a vertical launch system for a top-attack flight profile, like a javelin launcher or a mini-cruise missile or something.
The Exorcist is absolutely one kit that I would want to be more form than function, anyway. The original just oozes the Gothic, weaponized religiosity of the SoB and I love it for that. Could have something to do with being raised Catholic.
At any rate, I'm just really, really hoping I'll be able to get a trio of pipe organ tanks in plastic.
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Post by: Galas
Give me organ-gunned Exorcist or give me death.
The more practical FW version is a shame of a kit. By himsellf is cool but it absolutely fails to capture what SoB and Warhammer40k is about.
And yeah I always imagined that the proyectiles first go up before going down over the enemy. I don't know, maybe they are guided by faith (Or by human brains of space marines that have failed their tests to become one...)
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Yeah, organ Exorcist tanks would be great.
Also, sonic blasters what look like guitars or other musical instruments
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Post by: Haighus
The missile launchers on naval ships are often vertical launchers- vertical launchers work fine with guided munitions. Those vehicles above look like they are firing unguided rockets, not guided missiles.
Leave the Exorcist as it is, just make it plastic. I love that tank
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Post by: CoteazRox
+1
Love the current organ weapon Exorcist. Keep it.
Now, if we could have a plastic Repressor.... :-)
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Post by: Zefig
Definitely love a plastic pipe organ exorcist, I always thought that the missiles from it would rain down like the Emperor's fury from the heavens.
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
 Zefig wrote:Definitely love a plastic pipe organ exorcist, I always thought that the missiles from it would rain down like the Emperor's fury from the heavens.
They actually did that when the SoB were introduced in Dawn of War, and it's amazing to watch.
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Post by: Knockagh
 Strg Alt wrote: Revarien wrote:7years ago (and through all this time) I was prepared to drop 1k on a new Sisters army if they came out in plastic.
I'm now married, have a house, have a kid on the way (wife is due in the next couple of weeks), and I HIGHLY doubt I'll drop that on them.
I might pick up a box purely for edification, but god damn they missed the boat on some people. Surely not everyone that played then is still in a place that they haven't moved on? Like... the model is nice and beautiful, but where the hell was this 5-6 years ago?!
I would have collected a sisters army ten years ago but nowadays there isn´t time left for such a commitment. So I will just purchase the cover art mini and be done with it.
Welcome to my world! I think there is an army of us out there. Folks that the world has caught up with and we have no time for anything much. I just buy a few boxes each year now because I know I can’t paint them. GW are very aware of this. The smaller game formats they have been promoting encourage this though which is great. You can buy a few characters and a squad and play a smaller game. Zone Mortalis or the new one that’s coming out soon.
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Post by: Ouze
John Prins wrote:I really hope GW re-does the Exorcist to look a bit more functional. The pipe organ aesthetic is nice, but with all the pipes leaning backwards, it doesn't look like a weapon at all. I
Oof. If anything I'd like to see them the other way with it and look even less practical and more weird and baroque.
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Post by: Breotan
Ouze wrote: John Prins wrote:I really hope GW re-does the Exorcist to look a bit more functional. The pipe organ aesthetic is nice, but with all the pipes leaning backwards, it doesn't look like a weapon at all. I
Oof. If anything I'd like to see them the other way with it and look even less practical and more weird and baroque.
I'm sort of hoping they'll redesign it completely and surprise us with something new.
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Post by: Haighus
 Breotan wrote: Ouze wrote: John Prins wrote:I really hope GW re-does the Exorcist to look a bit more functional. The pipe organ aesthetic is nice, but with all the pipes leaning backwards, it doesn't look like a weapon at all. I
Oof. If anything I'd like to see them the other way with it and look even less practical and more weird and baroque.
I'm sort of hoping they'll redesign it completely and surprise us with something new.
But.. but it is perfect...
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Post by: Geifer
Breotan wrote: Ouze wrote: John Prins wrote:I really hope GW re-does the Exorcist to look a bit more functional. The pipe organ aesthetic is nice, but with all the pipes leaning backwards, it doesn't look like a weapon at all. I
Oof. If anything I'd like to see them the other way with it and look even less practical and more weird and baroque.
I'm sort of hoping they'll redesign it completely and surprise us with something new.
In an ideal world they'd leave the thing as it is and design something new on top of that so you have a choice between a classic and a novelty, or both.
Going off of the render, GW may just be headed for that ideal world, too.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
Yeah, that’d be the thing; alt build of the pipe organ that is another tank-sized musical instrument… of DOOOM!
Like an enormous musical Tesla coil, or something.
Oh and the Sister playing the music has an optional head wearing headphones, while the controls can be built as either the traditional keyboard or a DJ’s scratch deck….
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Post by: aracersss
so any thoughts about termi soronitas? :3
PLEASE ADD SPOILER TAGS TO MASSIVE PICTURES, THANK YOU! - BROOKM
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Post by: Thargrim
I don't care to see terminator sisters of battle tbh. Seems kind of generic. I'd rather see them go more the flagellant route, considering the religious aspects of the faction. Up armored power armored people is fine for marines but i'd rather avoid such a bland route for the sisters.
Sisters of battle also aren't as augmented if at all as astartes, so I don't think they would even be able to properly operate a suit as immense as a terminator suit.
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
Are her arms located about two feet behind her neck? Or is she just a head on a robot body like President Nixon's Head?
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Post by: SnotlingPimpWagon
No, just no
That's a bad idea and I hope GW don't even think about it.
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Post by: ScarletRose
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Are her arms located about two feet behind her neck? Or is she just a head on a robot body like President Nixon's Head?
I think her arms are in front of her chest in the torso piece? It seems like there'd be room enough in a suit that huge
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Post by: ZebioLizard2
Given the I mark on the head that's an inquisitor isn't it?
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Post by: aracersss
it's the suit of an inquisitor from the comic: will of iron ... that's why I just wonder what if
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
I think up armored sisters would be neat, but not necessarily terminators. And I disagree with the general idea that this would make them “just like marines” because if we go that route, since marines already have every infantry idea conceivable, twice, then there is no way to develop Sisters more…
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