I would love to see a Obi wan movie set between ep 3 and ep 4. A western style man with no name on tatooine with a ol ben whos depressed and not carrying a lightsaber but protecting a child luke from distance.
I could not possibly give a single gak about anyone else on your lists movie.
Both Obi Wan and Bobba Fett have been said about as plausible and there was an unverified claim that Obi is already in preproduction.
My thoughts are... Meh. Would like to see Bobba do a "cook me some eggs!" scene but otherwise I would be more interested in them doing something totally different like Rogue/Wraith squadron or a film like Sink the Bismark but about an Impstar.
100 minutes of Ewan MacGregor doing an impression of Alec Guinness, hanging round Tatooine doing not very much?
Admittedly I was as dismissive of the Han Solo movie and I've changed my mind now, but that would just be crowbarring more plot onto Tatooine for no good reason, and with no pay-off, otherwise you'd think Luke might have mentioned it before.
AndrewGPaul wrote: 100 minutes of Ewan MacGregor doing an impression of Alec Guinness, hanging round Tatooine doing not very much?
Admittedly I was as dismissive of the Han Solo movie and I've changed my mind now, but that would just be crowbarring more plot onto Tatooine for no good reason, and with no pay-off, otherwise you'd think Luke might have mentioned it before.
Well, he's already killed off Maul(properly this time) while he was hiding out there, there's plenty other things that could happen. Maybe Kenobi has to infiltrate Jabba's crime syndicate, or deal with an Imperial operative sent to investigate rumours of a wee kid who can fly speeders just a bit too well for someone their age, etc. That said, while I'd watch them, Kenobi and Fett are probably the "big name" films I'd be least interested in.
It just gets dull, that they'd be cramming more and more events onto a planet that's supposed to be the back end of nowhere, that's all. It'd have to be something pretty high-stakes for it to be worth making a film involving Obi-Wan, and yet it'll be something that has no repercussions in the wider world.
I mean, Solo will have the same problems, but it can be a smaller scope, and there are some pre-existing events that were only hinted at that this film can expand on, so it's not quite so pointless, to me.
The comics have done some interesting stuff with Obi-wan on Tatooine, he kind of becomes a bit of a vigilante for a bit, protecting Luke from the shadows and trying not to reveal himself. I think there's mileage there. A character piece that sees him conflicted by his need to stay hidden but his desire to do good, and if we can get McGregor back he could certainly pull off that kind of introspective story.
Or if you want something more actiony, throw in a classic Vader 'Jedi trap' to try and lure him out and we could even get another showdown between the two of them which would be interesting to see; we still don't know how/when Obi-wan finds out Vader was formerly Anakin and I imagine that could be a rather powerful moment to put to film. In fact, I think you could build a whole film around that. I think I posted it a while ago (possibly the last time the rumours of a Kenobi movie came up); you have him hear rumours of a terrifying new Sith Lord and Imperial thug that he is compelled to go and track down, only realising in the final moments that it is his former apprentice.
I'd be up for a Lando movie, from the Solo trailers they seem to have cast him very well and he's a very watchable character. The only question is whether it just ends up another heist movie and just ends up copying Solo, or whether they can find him something different to be doing.
I'd say Solo looks like an action heist movie, while Lando could bea more sneaky, con artist affair. I know I've called Solo "Ocean's Eleven in Star Wars", but a Lando movie would be closer to that mark, I think. Or Catch Me If You Can.
There's a major plot hole around with Luke being 'cunningly' 'hidden' with his aunt and uncle and Darth Vader never looking there.
Now of course Vader didn't know he had a son, he was told he'd killed his wife and kids, but Palpatine knew. And surely he'd either want to check and/or erase Vader's past.
There's also the weakness (well 'a' weakness) in the prequels that the Jedi are supposed to be decadent and corrupt but we never really see it. So Obi Wan coming to terms with that could be included as a way to add some significance.
AndrewGPaul wrote: It just gets dull, that they'd be cramming more and more events onto a planet that's supposed to be the back end of nowhere, that's all. It'd have to be something pretty high-stakes for it to be worth making a film involving Obi-Wan, and yet it'll be something that has no repercussions in the wider world.
I mean, Solo will have the same problems, but it can be a smaller scope, and there are some pre-existing events that were only hinted at that this film can expand on, so it's not quite so pointless, to me.
Or low stakes. The best westerns are almost personal the stakes are so low. I would much rather have Obi dealing with low stakes personal crap like Logan than big bombastic gak like X-Men 3.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: There's a major plot hole around with Luke being 'cunningly' 'hidden' with his aunt and uncle and Darth Vader never looking there.
Now of course Vader didn't know he had a son, he was told he'd killed his wife and kids, but Palpatine knew. And surely he'd either want to check and/or erase Vader's past.
There's also the weakness (well 'a' weakness) in the prequels that the Jedi are supposed to be decadent and corrupt but we never really see it. So Obi Wan coming to terms with that could be included as a way to add some significance.
So there's a plot right there.
Well, we do see it, but only really in the Clone Wars cartoon. They do a lot of fairly shady crap despite pretending they still have the moral high ground(aha). Even then though the simple fact that the Jedi choose to A: accept that they, as peacekeepers and defenders of democracy *as a principle* should be getting militarily involved in a war of secession, and B: use sentient, living slaves as canon fodder under their command in said war are pretty strong indicators of the underlying issues with the Order.
AndrewGPaul wrote: It just gets dull, that they'd be cramming more and more events onto a planet that's supposed to be the back end of nowhere, that's all. It'd have to be something pretty high-stakes for it to be worth making a film involving Obi-Wan, and yet it'll be something that has no repercussions in the wider world.
I mean, Solo will have the same problems, but it can be a smaller scope, and there are some pre-existing events that were only hinted at that this film can expand on, so it's not quite so pointless, to me.
Or low stakes. The best westerns are almost personal the stakes are so low. I would much rather have Obi dealing with low stakes personal crap like Logan than big bombastic gak like X-Men 3.
Agreed. Obi Wan struggling to reconcile his chosen duty to protect Luke with his Jedi principles on a planet filled with corruption, vice, and the victimisation of the innocent, while also coming to terms with the failure of the Jedi Order could be interesting. I could also see him investigating rumours of the Inquisitorius operating in the Outer Rim to see if there's any danger to Luke, and that being a "way in" for him to discover Vader is actually Anakin - you wouldn't even have to have them actually meet, just close enough to "sense" him and realise who's under the armour.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I think I'm more interested in Situations than specific characters when it comes to Star Wars Stories.
Show me new things. With new people. Weave it into the existing tapestry by all means, but let me come into it not really knowing what to expect.
But also, really, this. For my money the "main character" in any fiction that isn't just a one & done affair is the setting itself. So long as they stay true to the "used future space fantasy" core and keep the deconstructionist misery-mongering to occasional asides rather than going full edgelord about it, what I'd most like to see are new places, groups, peoples, and whatever character and plot framing best allow them to be explored.
Frankly, if I were in charge, the first thing I would do is hire on half a dozen people and just have them churn out as much pure-imagination concept artwork, Mcquarrie style, as they could manage in a year, then have writers and directors come in, browse that catalogue and pitch ways to bring the ones they like to life.
The trick I think Marvel has pulled off is to think of a genre, and then fit a character into it.
For example, Obi-wan as Western is a good idea. Bobba Fett as Revenge flick could be cool. Rogue Squadron as fighter pilot film is ace. Chewbacca and Wickett in a buddy cop adventure/comedy is golden. Yoda in " a "The Most Dangerous Game" style of movie is fine.
You get the idea. Any other way of approaching it is not going to be good.
He was actually mentioned in the newer novels.. After the whole debacle he basically was exiled from his city, he's basically a pariah and he works to cheer up refugee children on Naboo.
ZebioLizard2 wrote: He was actually mentioned in the newer novels.. After the whole debacle he basically was exiled from his city, he's basically a pariah and he works to cheer up refugee children on Naboo.
Exiled to a life as a street clown begging for scraps off refugees - almost a sufficient punishment for the bumbling moron who enabled the creation of the Empire.
Bobba Fett is a storm trooper in cool armor. The only time we see him do anything in a movie its get taken out by a blind guy, fly directly into the side of a ship., and fall into a butt hole in the sand.
I have no interest what so ever watching a movie retcon his goofiness into some supposed bad ass.
I wouldn't mind seeing a short film in which the Fett gets out of the sarlacc pit, retires from bounty hunting and opens up an all-you-can-eat bar named "Bo Buffet"
JK
But in all seriousness, the opportunity to do a western style "lone samurai" adventure movie with Obi-wan is just too perfect and needs to happen. Ewan McGregor is one of the best parts of the prequels and has stated he would be up for this role. It might even be a good excuse to put a Boba Fett cameo in since we know he works for Jabba, who lives on Tatooine. Boba and Obi-wan haven't really interacted together aside from a bit in ep2. It would be cool so see them interact a bit.
But I would probably avoid having Obi-wan reveal he is a Jedi, not only to keep the western theme, but as Boba has an obvious grudge against Jedi and would not rest knowing Obi-wan was alive.
Lance845 wrote: Bobba Fett is a storm trooper in cool armor. The only time we see him do anything in a movie its get taken out by a blind guy, fly directly into the side of a ship., and fall into a butt hole in the sand.
I have no interest what so ever watching a movie retcon his goofiness into some supposed bad ass.
I just want to know why Vader single him out when specifying "No Disintigrations." And why Boba was completely blase about being singled out.
Lance845 wrote: Bobba Fett is a storm trooper in cool armor. The only time we see him do anything in a movie its get taken out by a blind guy, fly directly into the side of a ship., and fall into a butt hole in the sand.
I have no interest what so ever watching a movie retcon his goofiness into some supposed bad ass.
I just want to know why Vader single him out when specifying "No Disintigrations." And why Boba was completely blase about being singled out.
Because clearly hes a feth up who brought vader a pile of dust once and hes blase about it because he knows hes gak.
Lance845 wrote: Bobba Fett is a storm trooper in cool armor. The only time we see him do anything in a movie its get taken out by a blind guy, fly directly into the side of a ship., and fall into a butt hole in the sand.
I have no interest what so ever watching a movie retcon his goofiness into some supposed bad ass.
I just want to know why Vader single him out when specifying "No Disintigrations." And why Boba was completely blase about being singled out.
Because clearly hes a feth up who brought vader a pile of dust once and hes blase about it because he knows hes gak.
It's what we could easily infer from the evidence we have in the movies. Its only in the EU that Fett did anything of value.
Vader handed him Han Solo so it's not like we saw him catch him. And the one time Fett has to actually get anything done he falls all over himself.
At least when Phasma gets into a fight she doesn't immediately fly into a wall before taking a single shot. They are both crap people in cool looking armor but at this point Fett has a worse track record.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: BOBA Fett, for the love of God! BOBA, like the tapioca balls you put in milk tea. Bobba is what you put milk in to feed a baby.
Hey I cant spell real things let alone fantasy ones!
Never heard of putting tapioca in tea before, that's just odd.
Lance845 wrote: It's what we could easily infer from the evidence we have in the movies. Its only in the EU that Fett did anything of value.
Vader handed him Han Solo so it's not like we saw him catch him. And the one time Fett has to actually get anything done he falls all over himself.
At least when Phasma gets into a fight she doesn't immediately fly into a wall before taking a single shot. They are both crap people in cool looking armor but at this point Fett has a worse track record.
Yeah instead she gets shoved down into a garbage disposal instead in her first appearance. With directors who know what to do properly with the character and still yet have to make her interesting outside of the EU.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: BOBA Fett, for the love of God! BOBA, like the tapioca balls you put in milk tea. Bobba is what you put milk in to feed a baby.
Hey I cant spell real things let alone fantasy ones!
Never heard of putting tapioca in tea before, that's just odd.
I highly recommend milk tea with boba. Blended with ice is great, but on the rocks is fine. Boba in coca cola is surprisingly good. The tapioca balls absorb the flavor, then you suck them up through the oversized straw and chew them. Swallowing them straight is an experience I've heard described as "vomiting in reverse".
Lance845 wrote: It's what we could easily infer from the evidence we have in the movies. Its only in the EU that Fett did anything of value.
Vader handed him Han Solo so it's not like we saw him catch him. And the one time Fett has to actually get anything done he falls all over himself.
At least when Phasma gets into a fight she doesn't immediately fly into a wall before taking a single shot. They are both crap people in cool looking armor but at this point Fett has a worse track record.
Yeah instead she gets shoved down into a garbage disposal instead in her first appearance. With directors who know what to do properly with the character and still yet have to make her interesting outside of the EU.
Yup. Crap character in cool armor. Again, amazingly, despite being dumped in the trash she STILL has a better track record than Fett.
So we're all on for a buddy comedy with Boba Fett, Darth Maul and Captain Phasma?
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Lance845 wrote: It's what we could easily infer from the evidence we have in the movies. Its only in the EU that Fett did anything of value.
Vader handed him Han Solo so it's not like we saw him catch him. And the one time Fett has to actually get anything done he falls all over himself.
At least when Phasma gets into a fight she doesn't immediately fly into a wall before taking a single shot. They are both crap people in cool looking armor but at this point Fett has a worse track record.
Yeah instead she gets shoved down into a garbage disposal instead in her first appearance. With directors who know what to do properly with the character and still yet have to make her interesting outside of the EU.
Yup. Crap character in cool armor. Again, amazingly, despite being dumped in the trash she STILL has a better track record than Fett.
Did notice this however.
At least when Phasma gets into a fight she doesn't immediately fly into a wall before taking a single shot. They are both crap people in cool looking armor but at this point Fett has a worse track
Boba Fett does get a few shots off. First in Empire strikes back at Cloud City where he takes a potshot or two at luke while escaping. Not to mention Boba Fett is the one who tracks them to Bespin, gets the word out to Vader, and then the ambush happens.
He also gets a few shots off in the Skiff fight before dying, though mostly ineffective, binds luke for a bit with grappling rope, few shots at luke's skiff later and then Han smacks him in the back. Not the most glamorous way to show him thats for sure! But I'd still consider him actually more effective if by virtue he didn't betray the people who hired him while also tracking the heroes effectively. Which is more then Captain "Save my own skin" Phasma who decided to turn off the one thing protecting the not deathstar from being attacked which allowed for the First Order's defeat.
If you tied Boba Fett's story into the Mandalorian story from Clone Wars and Rebels, I think you could manage something decent - He tries to come to Mandalore to connect with the stories of the glorious warrior heritage his father told him about, only to find out that Jango was an exile and the path of Mandalorian society is going in the opposite direction.
But then, Star Wars has already done the "tragic fall" plot - twice - so it's a bit unnecessary.
Even though Boba Fett has long been one of my favorite SW characters, I really don't want to see him in a stand-alone film as the protagonist. I really think he works better as just a cameo, albeit, I like a larger cameo than the special edition epIV digitally inserted walk-by.
That's why I suggested having him in the Obi-wan film. I really like the idea of Obi-wan getting caught up in a tussle between the local inhabitants and so thugs. Western style like the "man with no name" films. Boba Fett could be some hired muscle for them while between jobs for Jabba. Fett would not be the main baddie of the movie, but could have a decent fight scene with Obi-wan. There would be a need for Fett not to recognize Obi-wan as a Jedi, but with his grizzled exile-look, limited use of the force and lack of using his lightsaber, that could easily be achieved.
It fits the overall timeline and we know Fett would be on Tattooine from time-to-time working for Jabba.
I still think that after Han died, we should see Chewbacca have a long delayed homecoming to his family, and watch the family drama as they all come to learn to love each other again and get past the emotional barriers they have built up due to their abandonment by Chewie.
AndrewGPaul wrote: If you tied Boba Fett's story into the Mandalorian story from Clone Wars and Rebels, I think you could manage something decent - He tries to come to Mandalore to connect with the stories of the glorious warrior heritage his father told him about, only to find out that Jango was an exile and the path of Mandalorian society is going in the opposite direction.
But then, Star Wars has already done the "tragic fall" plot - twice - so it's a bit unnecessary.
But Jango, and by extension Boba, is not a Mandalorian....
Jango may have been a Mandalorian, the main thing is that New Mandalore at the time valued peace, and pacifism and disavowed him because he was an open bounty hunter and killer compared to the image they wanted to set out.. Given that many Mandalorians (mainly of the Death Watch) disagreed with the whole pacifistic government, who knows how such would've turned out if they hadn't been trying to hide their old war past.
Easy E wrote: I still think that after Han died, we should see Chewbacca have a long delayed homecoming to his family, and watch the family drama as they all come to learn to love each other again and get past the emotional barriers they have built up due to their abandonment by Chewie.
Compelling stuff.
And what? Celebrate Life Day? No one wants to go through that nonsense again.
Easy E wrote: I still think that after Han died, we should see Chewbacca have a long delayed homecoming to his family, and watch the family drama as they all come to learn to love each other again and get past the emotional barriers they have built up due to their abandonment by Chewie.
Compelling stuff.
And what? Celebrate Life Day? No one wants to go through that nonsense again.
Lance845 wrote: Bobba Fett is a storm trooper in cool armor. The only time we see him do anything in a movie its get taken out by a blind guy, fly directly into the side of a ship., and fall into a butt hole in the sand.
I have no interest what so ever watching a movie retcon his goofiness into some supposed bad ass.
I want a movie where Boba blunders his way thru it all Mr Bean style.
Lance845 wrote: Bobba Fett is a storm trooper in cool armor. The only time we see him do anything in a movie its get taken out by a blind guy, fly directly into the side of a ship., and fall into a butt hole in the sand.
I have no interest what so ever watching a movie retcon his goofiness into some supposed bad ass.
I want a movie where Boba blunders his way thru it all Mr Bean style.
I can agree to that!
Weekly planet put it really well.
Fett is the Inspector Gadget of SW characters. He has a lot of gear that goes off at random and he blunders his way through it all to fame and fortune. "You've done it again Boba! You are the best!" "I AM the best!"
And then the chips are down and he actually has to step up and get stuff done and he rocket packs into a wall and falls directly into a monster. Great. Thanks Inspector Gadget.
That, or for a period after the Clone Wars, there was genuinely fearsome Bounty Hunter by that name, but no one ever saw his face... He unfortunately met a sticky end, but some random idiot found the armour and for duration of the OT-era is just trading off the reputation that that mask gives him without being at all competent...
The irony being that for all the stick he gets for just being an unnecessary origin story for Boba, Jango Fett is a far more effective combatant. Ok, he gets taken out on Geonosis fairly easily, but on Kamino he more than handles Obi-wan, while protecting his son and getting his ship ready to fly.
So yeah, let's get a Jango Fett movie, because he's actually good at his job...
Lance845 wrote: Bobba Fett is a storm trooper in cool armor. The only time we see him do anything in a movie its get taken out by a blind guy, fly directly into the side of a ship., and fall into a butt hole in the sand.
I have no interest what so ever watching a movie retcon his goofiness into some supposed bad ass.
I just want to know why Vader single him out when specifying "No Disintigrations." And why Boba was completely blase about being singled out.
Because clearly hes a feth up who brought vader a pile of dust once and hes blase about it because he knows hes gak.
Ah... given Vader's tendency to strangle people for screwing up, if I were 'a feth up' in Vader's presence, I would not be blase at all when he singled me out. Terrified might describe it more accurately. "Yes, Lord Vader" would be a far more likely response if I were a 'feth up'.
"As you wish", in a resigned tone? Not so much.
No, there's more to this story than that, Lance. I suspect a LOT more...
Lance845 wrote: Bobba Fett is a storm trooper in cool armor. The only time we see him do anything in a movie its get taken out by a blind guy, fly directly into the side of a ship., and fall into a butt hole in the sand.
I have no interest what so ever watching a movie retcon his goofiness into some supposed bad ass.
I just want to know why Vader single him out when specifying "No Disintigrations." And why Boba was completely blase about being singled out.
Because clearly hes a feth up who brought vader a pile of dust once and hes blase about it because he knows hes gak.
Ah... given Vader's tendency to strangle people for screwing up, if I were 'a feth up' in Vader's presence, I would not be blase at all when he singled me out. Terrified might describe it more accurately. "Yes, Lord Vader" would be a far more likely response if I were a 'feth up'.
"As you wish", in a resigned tone? Not so much.
No, there's more to this story than that, Lance. I suspect a LOT more...
It could also be something he's known for.. Or a single example that's followed him completely and he's just resigned to "Oh hey its that bounty hunter that disintegrated that guy!" and knows it follows him.
Back when I had the essential guides for starwars stuff I always liked Davin Felth. One of the Stormtroops from tatooine in ANH who ended up defecting. That could be a neat perspective.
Crazyterran wrote: Obviously we need the Soontir Fel movie. Get a movie from the Empires perspective.
Or a Piett movie, but Soontir Fel would be cooler.
I mean, hey... they seem to want to do a Star Wars a year, might as well throw things at the wall!
I would like to see something Imperial-focused at some point in an Anthology movie. Give me essentially Das Boot/Red October ect but in Star Wars as we follow the crew of a Star Destroyer adrift in space, crippled in a Rebel raid that destroyed the rest of the convoy it was a part of. Have the attempted mutiny, have the mounting tension as critical systems begin to fail and it's not clear whether anyone is coming, have a Rebel spy on board desperate to escape before the whole ship goes down, and make the while thing with no exterior shots to build up a sense of claustrophobia and do something different.
And once they've done that, Battle of Britain with X-wings, please and thank you...
If they do an Imperial movie Id rather it not be about a defector. Get some gray in there, instead of the Empire being pure black and the Rebels being pure white.
Crazyterran wrote: Obviously we need the Soontir Fel movie. Get a movie from the Empires perspective.
Or a Piett movie, but Soontir Fel would be cooler.
I mean, hey... they seem to want to do a Star Wars a year, might as well throw things at the wall!
I would like to see something Imperial-focused at some point in an Anthology movie. Give me essentially Das Boot/Red October ect but in Star Wars as we follow the crew of a Star Destroyer adrift in space, crippled in a Rebel raid that destroyed the rest of the convoy it was a part of. Have the attempted mutiny, have the mounting tension as critical systems begin to fail and it's not clear whether anyone is coming, have a Rebel spy on board desperate to escape before the whole ship goes down, and make the while thing with no exterior shots to build up a sense of claustrophobia and do something different.
And once they've done that, Battle of Britain with X-wings, please and thank you...
Crazyterran wrote: If they do an Imperial movie Id rather it not be about a defector. Get some gray in there, instead of the Empire being pure black and the Rebels being pure white.
It always does seem to be about the defectors don't it. Even the battlefront 2 missions were basically 1/10th Empire and the rest being good or neutral.
Lance845 wrote: Bobba Fett is a storm trooper in cool armor. The only time we see him do anything in a movie its get taken out by a blind guy, fly directly into the side of a ship., and fall into a butt hole in the sand.
I have no interest what so ever watching a movie retcon his goofiness into some supposed bad ass.
I just want to know why Vader single him out when specifying "No Disintigrations." And why Boba was completely blase about being singled out.
Because clearly hes a feth up who brought vader a pile of dust once and hes blase about it because he knows hes gak.
Ah... given Vader's tendency to strangle people for screwing up, if I were 'a feth up' in Vader's presence, I would not be blase at all when he singled me out. Terrified might describe it more accurately. "Yes, Lord Vader" would be a far more likely response if I were a 'feth up'.
"As you wish", in a resigned tone? Not so much.
No, there's more to this story than that, Lance. I suspect a LOT more...
As we have seen in human history these types of regimes result in yes men who never ever take risks or judgement: 1942 USSR, Iraq, certain periods in Chinese and Ottoman history, the Department of Motor Vehicles...
Crazyterran wrote: Obviously we need the Soontir Fel movie. Get a movie from the Empires perspective.
Or a Piett movie, but Soontir Fel would be cooler.
I mean, hey... they seem to want to do a Star Wars a year, might as well throw things at the wall!
I would like to see something Imperial-focused at some point in an Anthology movie. Give me essentially Das Boot/Red October ect but in Star Wars as we follow the crew of a Star Destroyer adrift in space, crippled in a Rebel raid that destroyed the rest of the convoy it was a part of. Have the attempted mutiny, have the mounting tension as critical systems begin to fail and it's not clear whether anyone is coming, have a Rebel spy on board desperate to escape before the whole ship goes down, and make the while thing with no exterior shots to build up a sense of claustrophobia and do something different.
And once they've done that, Battle of Britain with X-wings, please and thank you...
A formation of Imperials on a new listening post on a hot jungle world that is being hunted, their bodies left as trophies...
Paradigm wrote: That, or for a period after the Clone Wars, there was genuinely fearsome Bounty Hunter by that name, but no one ever saw his face... He unfortunately met a sticky end, but some random idiot found the armour and for duration of the OT-era is just trading off the reputation that that mask gives him without being at all competent...
The irony being that for all the stick he gets for just being an unnecessary origin story for Boba, Jango Fett is a far more effective combatant. Ok, he gets taken out on Geonosis fairly easily, but on Kamino he more than handles Obi-wan, while protecting his son and getting his ship ready to fly.
So yeah, let's get a Jango Fett movie, because he's actually good at his job...
You mean “easily” when his jet pack is damaged, he can’t escape, and he’s up against the strongest (before Anakin comes into his own) duelist of the Jedi order? He was screwed.
Also, the Clone Wars CGI toon made Boba as a kid kind of a little badass. He snuck his way into the clone training, and kicked a lot of ass. Almost got Mace, if I remember correctly.
Or if you want something more actiony, throw in a classic Vader 'Jedi trap' to try and lure him out and we could even get another showdown between the two of them which would be interesting to see; we still don't know how/when Obi-wan finds out Vader was formerly Anakin and I imagine that could be a rather powerful moment to put to film. In fact, I think you could build a whole film around that. I think I posted it a while ago (possibly the last time the rumours of a Kenobi movie came up); you have him hear rumours of a terrifying new Sith Lord and Imperial thug that he is compelled to go and track down, only realising in the final moments that it is his former apprentice.
That was actually touched in one EU book where he figured out who Vader is. Don't recall exactly how.
I can't wait to find out what barber Lando uses for haircuts, I love that Disney is in going into exhaustive detail about every iconic thing from Star Wars not matter how mundane or unnecessary it is.
Cheesecat wrote: I can't wait to find out what barber Lando uses for haircuts, I love that Disney is in going into exhaustive detail about every iconic thing from Star Wars not matter mundane or unnecessary it is.
GoatboyBeta wrote: After watching Solo I'd totally be up for a young Lando movie. Heck give me a whole series of loosely interconnected scum and villainy films.
James Mangold, the guy who brought us Logan, is purportedly the top contender for the Boba Fett movie so that could be pretty damn good.
Cheesecat wrote: I can't wait to find out what barber Lando uses for haircuts, I love that Disney is in going into exhaustive detail about every iconic thing from Star Wars not matter mundane or unnecessary it is.
I wonder how many capes does he actually own?
Spoiler:
at least three racks of 'em, if Solo is anything to go by
Kid_Kyoto wrote: So we're all on for a buddy comedy with Boba Fett, Darth Maul and Captain Phasma?
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Cheesecat wrote: I can't wait to find out what barber Lando uses for haircuts, I love that Disney is in going into exhaustive detail about every iconic thing from Star Wars not matter how mundane or unnecessary it is.
There was a brilliant blog post by Black Library's Aaron Dembski-Bowden about Boba Fett. It was specifically about defending him compared to Captain Phasma in the new films, but I think it highlights a lot of the coolest stuff about Boba (and stuff that hopefully the new film creators will take on board!)
(Note - as is usual for his very entertaining blog posts, includes some choice language!)
Fett can work, I believe that. He has a reputation that we've never really seen proof of in ESB/RotJ, but that doesn't mean it's not doable. Especially with more modern filmmaking techniques and styles, I think even a few short scenes could rehabilitate him as a character.
Throw him in a John Wick or Bourne-style fight scene where he tears through 20-odd stormtroopers that stand between him and the target, using all his gadgets, training, exotic weapons ect. From a purely visual choreography standpoint, Boba offers a lot. Jetpack, flamethrower, wrist rocket, multiple blasters, grappling line, likely some kind of CQB/martial arts training... The right directors could make watching him blast his way through a squad of Stormtroopers or gang henchmen a really exciting, visceral spectacle that would match up to the reputation that's hinted at elsewhere.
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Given the rumours of a Fett movie and the surprise reveal of Maul being behind the Crimson Dawn, I think the perfect setup is there for something like this. Fett heads up a team of bounty hunters (maybe including Han) that Jabba dispatches to take a shot at the rival criminal empire. Start them off with sabotaging a few deals/convoys, Maul retaliates with his own agents, ramping up to a final epic showdown between Fett and Maul which would do a lot to give both characters the attention their reputation demands.
While he's excellent in the animated stuff, for the movie only audience Maul is in the same boat as Fett in that he's all style and little substance, so pitting them against each other would give both characters a chance to strut their stuff a bit more.
Was tempted to make this post a new thread, but I reckon we’re at StarWars Thread Capacity...
Anyways.
We’ve now got two ‘Stories’ movies under our belt, both set in or slightly before the classic era. Me, I’ve grealt enjoyed both and for different reasons (Rogue One is still my favourite Star Wars movie though).
And it’s got me thinking, what exactly is it that you/we want the other ‘Story’ movies to show us?
As I’ve said before (mebbes in this thread, can’t remember), much as I liked the ‘nobody is getting out of here alive’ heroism of Rogue One, I’m not adverse to ‘origin’ stories for more established characters - provided they show us ever more of the wider Star Wars Universe.
So far, Rogue One and Solo have both trod that fine line really quite admirably. Neither are Star Wars as we know them, but neither felt like ‘generic sci-fi with a thin Star Wars veneer’. And story wise, neither are needed to make sense of the other films. They’re both good enough to stand on their own feet for the most part.
So with that in mind, exactly which planets, background and factions is it that you want explored?
Me, I’d love a Young Palpatine type film. Really show us the evolution of someone from Force Sensitive to Maniac Sith. They dropped the ball with Vader in the prequels (though Clone Wars does a superb job of chronicilling Anakin and indeed the entire Jedi Order’s fall.).
How does a kid that’s strong with the Force not only fail to be clocked, recruited and trained by the Jedi Order, but become so utterly corrupt? There’s a helluva story there I suspect. Yes, it would be a prequel to a prequel, but it’s still something I for one want to see. Especially given he managed to hide in plain sight of the Jedi Order as a seriously powerful Force User long before the prequel trilogy.
Other than that? I’m keen to see a loose trilogy made up from Solo. Not a Han Solo trilogy (though I’d be ultimately happy with that), but exploring The Crimson Dawn further, and indeed exploring the power dynamics in the dirty underbelly.
Personally, I’m not so interested in The Old Republic type stuff, as I’m simply not that familiar with it. Sure, I’d still go and see it. Of course I would. But for me, time wise, it’s a bit too far removed from the existing timelines to have much of an impact.
TBH I'm not sure, since they seem to be doing things in completely the opposite way I'd have thought they would - reserving the Saga trilogies for the very traditional, fan-servicey, eternal battle of good & evil stuff, and the Stories brand for the weird avant garde "see what sticks" pseudo-indie stuff.
I can agree for sure that Solo being the kickoff for a loose trilogy of films surrounding Crimson Dawn and the Rise of the Empire-era criminal underworld generally sounds good and I'd watch them all. Despite the fact I want to see more original stuff, I do also want to see an Obi Wan film that goes the exiled Ronin/Western kind of route.
If things are still kicking after that, more GCW stuff would be good - Rogue One was solid, but a *proper* Star Wars War Movie would be interesting; get us down into the trenches with the parts of the Alliance that don't have Jedi and squadrons of starfighter aces and the bulk of the Rebel Fleet backing them up. Maybe *finally* do an "Imperial perspective" story that finds a way to make the characters sympathetic beyond having them defect to the Rebels five minutes after we meet them - we've seen the dark side of the Rebellion, now lets see not the "good side" per se of the Empire, but the reasons why so many were so willing to go along with it.
I'd prefer if they're going to do Tales of the Jedi/KotOR type "historicals" films they would be a full Saga trilogy of their own, especially if they choose to tackle something like Revan's story or how Darth Bane established the Sith as we meet them in the OT/PT films, but if it's all that's on offer I'd enjoy a Stories film set in that kind of era so long as it was an original tale or one of the shorter comic book arcs rather than cramming a much grander affair down into one film.
Graphite wrote: I have worked out what must be the opening of the next spin off.
Ext. Tattooine, the Great Pit of Karkoon
Boba Fett tumbles towards the Sarlacc.
Record scratch, freeze frame
"I guess you're wondering how I got in this situation..."
I would want it to fade in on some slow soft music as he slow motion flies directly into the side of the speeder/skiff. We get a shot of him connecting face first before he tumbles down towards the Sarlac.
Boba: "Oh heck, Zuckus! I just shot 4-LOM in the face!"
They pull into Watto's junkyard
Watto: "Do you see a sign saying "Dead droid depository"?"
Boba: "Well.. yes. It's over there."
Zuckus, on comm : "Hey Jabba. You're sending IG-88? Why didn't you say?"
Whole film scored in John Williams style, except Boba's theme, which is Yackity Sax. Opening shot immediately after record scratch is the Arena on Mustaphar. Boba picks up Jango's helmet. Jango's head falls out on his foot.
The Road Warrior and Spaghetti Westerns have proven that audiences from the late 60's and early 70's love "Non-traditional Hero types" as protagonists.
timetowaste85 wrote: Boba Fett survival/horror in the pit could make for an awesome movie.
I'd watch that.
I think SW could learn a lot from the idea of limited budget "bottle episode". I read thing about how Star Trek II was made and how the limits on the budget really kept the director focused on storytelling.
How about a Vader movie? Between 3 and 4. That could be epic. Show him come to grips with his post cyborg self and become the total badass we saw at the end of Rogue.
Otherwise I only care about a Fett movie at this point.
At this point I don't want any more Disney Star Wars movies. Disney is garbage, they've ruined the happy ending of the OT, disgraced Han Solo and Luke and I don't want them to go anywhere near Obi Wan, Darth Vader, the Emperor or Darth Maul (who as far as I'm concerned died on Naboo)
At the very least not with Kathleen Kennedy at the helm, or round head Rian Johnson
I wasn't aware Rian Johnson even participated in the English Civil War. The man's certainly aged well; I'm glad he made it through the carnage to make movies for us!
Lance845 wrote: You know darth maul survived naboo long before disney aquired sw right?
Also most of the stuff made under lucas was garbage.
According to the EU. I'm not keen on the idea of him surviving; he made a great villain because he was mysterious, looked awesome and dispensed with the boring trope of villains speaking to the protagonists they're trying to kill to gloat and tell them their plans. From what I recall he only spoke to Palpatine in the movie, and even then it wasn't much. Something is lost when every character's background is fleshed out. I wish Boba Fett hadn't appeared in episode 2, he's way cooler when everything we know about him comes from episodes 5 and 6.
Lance845 wrote: You know darth maul survived naboo long before disney aquired sw right?
Also most of the stuff made under lucas was garbage.
According to the EU. I'm not keen on the idea of him surviving; he made a great villain because he was mysterious, looked awesome and dispensed with the boring trope of villains speaking to the protagonists they're trying to kill to gloat and tell them their plans. From what I recall he only spoke to Palpatine in the movie, and even then it wasn't much. Something is lost when every character's background is fleshed out. I wish Boba Fett hadn't appeared in episode 2, he's way cooler when everything we know about him comes from episodes 5 and 6.
As above clone wars isnt eu. Its just strait up canon.
Lance845 wrote: You know darth maul survived naboo long before disney aquired sw right?
Also most of the stuff made under lucas was garbage.
He's recently be talking about what his plans were for episodes 7-9.
Makes the Disney films look like cinematic greatness.
Basically, it would have focused on the 'Whills,' microscopic creatures that feed off and control the Force, and basically are responsible for everything. So the films would have somehow focused on the 'micro universe' and stripped free will and agency from pretty much every character. That was Lucas grand plan before Disney slapped him in the face with a wad of cash. It even makes the Oozing Vongs of the EU look like a not terrible idea.
The tagline for most of the Internet articles about it is something along the lines of 'Lucas' ideas for Star Wars would have *really* upset fans.' Which is true, as it basically doubles down on the midichlorian idea.
Although Lucas' prequels were quite awful (and by sounds of it his sequels would have been too) there is one and only thing where they were one up from Disney sequels: they broke new ground to Star Wars setting and introduced new places and concepts and visuals. Disney sequels have very little original content, nearly everything is recycled from first trilogy to the point of them being almost a remake of the series. Sure thing George recycled too, and a lot ("It's like poetry, it rhymes...") but at least he did it in new places. Ep. 7 and 8 have the visuals and settings borrowed from old movies. It's why many people feel like they are made to 'cash in' because even though objectively they are much better movies than the prequels, they have very strong 'committee work' feel around them, particularly TFA.
I'm not big on the idea of Boba Fett movie, we already saw his origin story and it would IMO run into same problem Stallone's Judge Dredd did: when a character who in original source material is defined by his helmet takes it off, character concept becomes sorta deflated.
As for Disney ruining Star Wars, there were three good films before the buyout, and four good films after it.
*2 good after.
No, you're wrong.
You're both wrong, because as it's being used here the meaning of the word 'good' is INCREDIBLY subjective.
yes they are, it was only 1 good one, 1 passible one, 1 meh and 1 dumpster fire from disney.
As the disney non trilogy movies seem to be the only ones worth catching, I am curious on how they will handle boba and how his relation to maul & solo will be protrayed.
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BaronIveagh wrote: You know, an Asoka film might not be bad. Or something set in the Old Republic.
Could be fun - would be nice to have a decent female character in the lead - although Rey was one of the very few good things in the gak fest that was LTJ she was not brilliant and the rest of the female characters were laughably bad.
Yes, it would be very nice if we could get a REAL strong female character back into Star Wars, instead of needing to tear male characters down to make weak female characters APPEAR strong.
BaronIveagh wrote: You know, an Asoka film might not be bad. Or something set in the Old Republic.
I was making that point earlier today.
I would do it as a 2 part mini series. in the first movie it's during the clone wars done starship trooper style. Sure there's a war in the background but it's about Anakin & ahsoka. It ends with her leaving the order and Anakin feeling like it's his fault, adding to his fall. saying something like "I forgive you Anakin, it wasn't your fault" But it really needs shows the love and respect between the two.
the second movie would be ahsoka facing vader during the rebel tv series era, where she learns who he is, confronts him trying to bring him back to the light, but after a epic fight vader kills her, she again says really heartfelt "I forgive you Anakin, it wasn't your fault" lighting the conflict in vader that luke felt.
BaronIveagh wrote: You know, an Asoka film might not be bad. Or something set in the Old Republic.
I was making that point earlier today.
I would do it as a 2 part mini series. in the first movie it's during the clone wars done starship trooper style. Sure there's a war in the background but it's about Anakin & ahsoka. It ends with her leaving the order and Anakin feeling like it's his fault, adding to his fall. saying something like "I forgive you Anakin, it wasn't your fault" But it really needs shows the love and respect between the two.
the second movie would be ahsoka facing vader during the rebel tv series era, where she learns who he is, confronts him trying to bring him back to the light, but after a epic fight vader kills her, she again says really heartfelt "I forgive you Anakin, it wasn't your fault" lighting the conflict in vader that luke felt.
But Asoka already survived a confrontation with Vader in Rebels.....
Vulcan wrote: Yes, it would be very nice if we could get a REAL strong female character back into Star Wars, instead of needing to tear male characters down to make weak female characters APPEAR strong.
I don't see why having a female beating male character is such a big deal, also what is a "REAL" strong female character?
BaronIveagh wrote: You know, an Asoka film might not be bad. Or something set in the Old Republic.
I was making that point earlier today.
I would do it as a 2 part mini series. in the first movie it's during the clone wars done starship trooper style. Sure there's a war in the background but it's about Anakin & ahsoka. It ends with her leaving the order and Anakin feeling like it's his fault, adding to his fall. saying something like "I forgive you Anakin, it wasn't your fault" But it really needs shows the love and respect between the two.
the second movie would be ahsoka facing vader during the rebel tv series era, where she learns who he is, confronts him trying to bring him back to the light, but after a epic fight vader kills her, she again says really heartfelt "I forgive you Anakin, it wasn't your fault" lighting the conflict in vader that luke felt.
But Asoka already survived a confrontation with Vader in Rebels.....
well she wouldn't survive her second confrontation she has to die at some point, otherwise yoda would have sought her out instead of luke.
Spinner wrote: We know she lasts until after the Rebellion at least, thanks to the end of Rebels!
I should really catch up on that show, but I still think my idea for those movies could play well.
and when yoda dies, he tells luke, he's the last of the jedi. so it's really a matter of her fading into obscurity and dying for nothing, or sending her out in a grand fashion.
Vulcan wrote: Yes, it would be very nice if we could get a REAL strong female character back into Star Wars, instead of needing to tear male characters down to make weak female characters APPEAR strong.
I don't see why having a female beating male character is such a big deal, also what is a "REAL" strong female character?
It's not about the female character defeating a male character. It's about female characters nominally allied to the male character tearing him down so they can appear stronger than he is.
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Graphite wrote: "Long have I watched this one... all his life has he looked away...."
Indeed, it's this speech of Yoda's that explains why Luke failed Ben Solo so badly. "Never his mind on where he was, hmm? What he was doing! You are reckless."
Master Luke paid so much attention to what Ben Solo might become, he recklessly committed the act that set Ben on the path to the dark side. It's just about the ONLY thing Rian did that I understand.
I don't necessarily approve, mind you, but I understand.
Wait, was this the thread that suggested that we needed a story told from the Empire's perspective? Because it's true, and I've got the perfect idea;
Piett: A Star Wars Story. You know, that mild mannered officer just doing his job and who doesn't care much for bounty hunters?
First a Commander then a Captain of a regular star destroyer who does something to show that the Empire actually does have support and how it achieves it. The way to make it work is to show him tracking down elusive pirates, which shows why he's later hunting the rebels. He's got experience. And said pirates need to be evil. Like stuffing civilians into an airlock and hitting the eject button evil. Basically, he's Robert Maynard hunting space Blackbeard.
It should be a homage to those classic war movies that actually have plots, you know?
Mr Morden wrote: Says the guy who fled the Republic after loosing one fight and then hid in cave rather than actually do anything.
More to the point, has the whole Republic military turn on him and his cohorts killing most of them and destroying the whole Jedi infrastructure, and then the person who's giving the military those orders is granted dictatorial powers to thunderous applause. Clearly, the opportune moment for one muppet to save the galaxy from itself.... was not then. And he had the wisdom to see that.
Makes the Disney films look like cinematic greatness.
she has to die at some point, otherwise yoda would have sought her out instead of luke.
