News was that Alara was leaving the show, but she's in the S2 trailer (though not in some scenes you'd expect to see her so she might be departing mid-season?)
I still love Bortus. Season 1 highlight reel spoilered below:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Is Seth McFarlane tolerable in this? I tend to find him horribly smug.
There are moments of that, but not too many. The show spends a decent amount of time on the other characters and the cast chemistry is really good. Also I went into the first series expecting a total Star Trek spoof and it’s not; very much an actual Star Trek style series, with a few jokes and a bit less morality. And some surprisingly deep storylines at times (the one where they infiltrate a Krill ship is very interesting).
I liked it. I am convinced he pulled a fast one on Fox by pitching a penis joke parody and then dialed it back three episodes in so he could have a Trek show, because while the jokes are still there, some nicely serious stories started showing up, like Bortus' child.
AegisGrimm wrote: I liked it. I am convinced he pulled a fast one on Fox by pitching a penis joke parody and then dialed it back three episodes in so he could have a Trek show, because while the jokes are still there, some nicely serious stories started showing up, like Bortus' child.
Yup, in the end the show never really went beyond the more lighthearted TNG and TOS episodes in tone. The subject matter of the jokes might be a bit cruder than Trek is usually known for, but it's not like the show was entirely po-faced even during the fully right-on period of TNG that gave us stuff like the Skant. The third episode was solid, but it was the fourth that made me go "ah OK this is basically just Star Trek".
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Is Seth McFarlane tolerable in this? I tend to find him horribly smug.
I doubt he's going to win over any McFarlane-haters with this but the show is more of an ensemble piece and he's only really centre-stage in about 3-4 of the episodes.
As for his character, Captain Ed Mercer, he's no Kirk or Picard 'flag-ship captaining space legend', nor made out to be the best of the best - he's a talented officer whose career stalled because of problems in his personal life and is now being given a chance in the big chair on a small exploration vessel. He isn't shown as having any serious character flaws (like Janeway's micromanagement), and in the context of the show is portrayed as making the 'right' decisions most of the time. Unlike Picard (higlighted due to the similarity to TNG) he isn't aloof from his crew socially.
I don't quite get the show... is it supposed to be funny, because what I seen was ok, and other the otherhand, doesn't take itself serious enough to be a drama. Since it wanders around in the middle, I lost interest.
I feel like if it went crazy funny it would have been better.
I'm looking forward to the next season. There were some good episodes and some bad but overall it was worth watching even if I almost gave up on it in the middle. I just hope they redecorate the budget IKEA mess hall as those "props" look like they came straight out of aisle 4 in the IKEA maze.
Riquende wrote: As for his character, Captain Ed Mercer, he's no Kirk or Picard 'flag-ship captaining space legend', nor made out to be the best of the best - he's a talented officer whose career stalled because of problems in his personal life and is now being given a chance in the big chair on a small exploration vessel. He isn't shown as having any serious character flaws (like Janeway's micromanagement), and in the context of the show is portrayed as making the 'right' decisions most of the time. Unlike Picard (higlighted due to the similarity to TNG) he isn't aloof from his crew socially.
Captain Mercer was top of his class at the Academy, who crashed out when he found out his wife had an affair.
It's pretty clear in the first season that his main flaw was a lack of self-confidence, starting from the pilot, and only really "resolved" in the last episode. He basically spends the first season "faking it" until he makes it. He's a guy with tremendous potential, that constantly sells himself short, and doesn't quite get that he's doing a damn good job because he's comparing against some sort of unattainable perfection. There's a certain Mr. Roberts goes to Washington in the character. Of all the starship Captains, he's the one I would be happiest to serve under.
Thing is, this sort of thing is rampant throughout his entire crew. The Doctor could have been on a not-Enterprise, but she dialed back for her kids. Security is even more unsure of herself. And so on. Very competent, but needing leadership and inspiration to excel.
edit: Just finished. I don't want to post any spoilers so all I'll say is that I wish it hadn't been entirely focused on interpersonal issues. Maybe classic Trek spoiled me but I expected something a bit more like exploration or overcoming an external threat for the big season premiere. I wonder if this is the episode that got cut from last season and pushed into this one as that could explain it.
Interesting open, more for returning fans than new viewers. It works well if you already know all of the characters, whereas it's not nearly as good coming in cold.
Last season was supposed to have one more episode that got pushed to this year. I think this was it. Narratively, it's something that you'd want right before a true season finale.
KTG17 wrote: I don't quite get the show... is it supposed to be funny, because what I seen was ok, and other the otherhand, doesn't take itself serious enough to be a drama. Since it wanders around in the middle, I lost interest.
I feel like if it went crazy funny it would have been better.
It feels to me like they set out to create a satirical take on Star Trek and then realised when they got into it just how absurd most Star Trek actually is and said 'Alrighty, then - let's just do that!'
My wife and I are still working through series one (just picked up the DVD), but so far aside from the anachronistic language and pop-culture references, there hasn't been a single episode that wouldn't have fit in perfectly as an episode of TNG or Voyager. Which does mean it works best if you don't take it too seriously, but we're enjoying it for just that reason.
I loved it. One thing that Trek rarely did is 'the crew are technically cooped up with each other so any small thing could really escalate' and we got that in the opener in myriad ways. It's true it's more of a mid-season bottle show but nontheless it worked well for me.
honestly laughed aloud when Mercer's shuttle crept into shot outside Grayson's window.
i don';t watch anything that has any connection to seth macfarlan. His shows like family guy anhd amnerican dad make it pretty clear he likes to be hateful to fat people and since I'm one of them I hate him for the way he always has to portray people like me. It's basically an acceptable form of stereotyping.
That was top drawer, would have been a rock solid TNG episode!
Solid 'A' and 'B' plots that give us a very Trek tropish 'evacuate the planet' plot and also the proper development of a relationship drawing on established events, and have the latter impact the former considerably. I loved that they didn't technobabble a 'we can save them all' solution from thin air, I felt there was a significant emotional punch in the last few minutes.
"You have had enough injections" - killer line from Klyden!
I tried watching the first episode of this and couldnt stay engaged, mostly in that it felt like a Star Trek lite. Has it picked up since then? The Seth sitcom stuff wasnt overwhelming, but there was just enouhh to fail to hook me initially.
Vaktathi wrote: I tried watching the first episode of this and couldnt stay engaged, mostly in that it felt like a Star Trek lite. Has it picked up since then? The Seth sitcom stuff wasnt overwhelming, but there was just enouhh to fail to hook me initially.
I would say so. I missed the original launch so I was able to binge watch the first 3 episodes and was hooked from there. I can't say every single 'main plot' is brilliant but they've done a great job making the crew likeable so there's always something going on onboard with some of the characters to keep it ticking over.
For almost any single episode you can point to 2 or 3 specific TNG, DS9 or VOY episodes and see where significant inspiration came from but most of the time the 80s/90s premises have been updated to reflect 21st century social issues (example - this week's featured Reg Barclay-style holodeck addiction but rather than being played for laughs with the musketeer bits etc, it was called out explictly as an addiction to pornography that was harming a marriage (and what we did see seemed to be a bit... freaky)).
Vaktathi wrote: I tried watching the first episode of this and couldnt stay engaged, mostly in that it felt like a Star Trek lite. Has it picked up since then? The Seth sitcom stuff wasnt overwhelming, but there was just enouhh to fail to hook me initially.
It's a good show. The pilot of a large ensemble cast is always going to have an issue of introducing all of the cast, compounded by being SF and setting the ground "rules" for the technology and society. Once you get that out of the way, it's a better TNG than TNG was, and a better Trek than Discovery is. Do watch it in order, as there is a lot of B-plot continuity that builds over the episodes. You couldn't watch yesterday's episode without watching things in S1, etc.
Ooh, that's a claim and a half. I love the Orville, but TNG at its peak mops the floor with it. Seth McFarlane is never going to have an Ed Mercer style "There are 4 lights" moment. If you compare the 'average' episode of each then it's more of a contest, but let's not forget that early TNG really struggled and brings down the average.
It's fair to say that the Orville has started stronger than TNG did, but I'd be (pleasantly) amazed if it had anywhere near the same ceiling.
Edit: I will say that on balance, if I had to go out drinking with the crew of either ship then the Orville wins hands down...
Ooh, that's a claim and a half. I love the Orville, but TNG at its peak mops the floor with it. Seth McFarlane is never going to have an Ed Mercer style "There are 4 lights" moment. If you compare the 'average' episode of each then it's more of a contest, but let's not forget that early TNG really struggled and brings down the average.
It's fair to say that the Orville has started stronger than TNG did, but I'd be (pleasantly) amazed if it had anywhere near the same ceiling.
Edit: I will say that on balance, if I had to go out drinking with the crew of either ship then the Orville wins hands down...
The Orville has not yet reached its peak. If you go per episode, Riker hasn't even grown the beard. If you count per season, well, TNG S1 & S2 are *not* good. As for the "4 lights" episode, it aired as the 10th and 11th episodes of the sixth season, the 136th and 137th episodes of TNG whereas The Orville has barely 1/10 as many episodes. If we allow that The Orville airs for a 6th season, who's to say whether Mercer might find himself in a similar situation as a captive of the Krill. As an aside, The Orville lacks the amusement of the Riker and Picard moves - I might make you take a shot every time Riker mounts a chair, and a double whenever Picard tugs on his uniform.
Again, TNG went for quite a few years, so we have yet to see when or how it might peak.
As I believe I've said elsewhere, I would gladly serve under Captain Mercer.
I have really enjoyed the Orville so far, the studio couldn't have had better timing than releasing alongside Disco..
This second series though feels like it hasnt really got going yet, the first episode came accross as a place holder rather than trying to bridge the series and the second episode to me felt like it was trying too hard to say something profound.
Lol, I was just about to post that quote after watching the episode. The increased budget per episode really shows; I wish they had started with that as the season premiere instead. Even the props/sets don't look like cheap ikea hand me downs this season which was something that I felt last time. Definitely a solid episode that combined drama and the occasional humor. I'd say it's my second favorite Orville episode so far (second to the Krill destroyer infiltration one last season).
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Vaktathi wrote: I tried watching the first episode of this and couldnt stay engaged, mostly in that it felt like a Star Trek lite. Has it picked up since then? The Seth sitcom stuff wasnt overwhelming, but there was just enouhh to fail to hook me initially.
Yes and no. It's more like a sine wave in terms of quality at times but I feel that the core idea is solid (unlike with STD). I myself almost stopped midway through the first Orville season when I was getting fed up with back to back moralistic lecturisodes but I'm glad I stuck with it. If you stream the latest episode like I just did, it might give you a better idea since everyone is different. I just googled "orville fox" and the link was one of the first.
Ooh, that's a claim and a half. I love the Orville, but TNG at its peak mops the floor with it. Seth McFarlane is never going to have an Ed Mercer style "There are 4 lights" moment.
The Orville has not yet reached its peak. If you go per episode, Riker hasn't even grown the beard. If you count per season, well, TNG S1 & S2 are *not* good. As for the "4 lights" episode, it aired as the 10th and 11th episodes of the sixth season, the 136th and 137th episodes of TNG whereas The Orville has barely 1/10 as many episodes. If we allow that The Orville airs for a 6th season, who's to say whether Mercer might find himself in a similar situation as a captive of the Krill.
In the commercials previews, is it just me, or does it seem that the Orville may be doing a "4 lights" episode with the Krill?
I guess they really are trying to follow the TNG template with the Orville with this Tasha Yar style moment (with the obvious difference of course being that the character/actress playing the female security chief is leaving and not dying). The tearful goodbye of a character that was barely explored except for some dating woes and overcoming a fear of fire felt very forced. It'll feel even less poignant when they replace her with another female silean (sp?) character in another episode or two according to the egotastic youtube channel.
They seem to be alternating between lame and good judging so far from the episodes and next week's preview.
I also have some major world building issues (both literally and figuratively) with the episode as well. As soon as I saw the skyscrapers on a world with such ridiculously high gravity, it bothered me as the material properties of elements don't change just because of G forces. I'd have preferred if things had instead been low to the ground and reinforced instead of elegant thin and tall to better account for that.
I'm just befuddled as to why Gordon didn't land the shuttle over Ed and turn the gravity shield back on. Lots of overdramatics for something that should have been a really simple. Plus the show is apparently losing one of it's better characters. Not a bad episode just meh.
Overall a good episode. I didn’t feel they handled the high gravity very accurately at all, and I’m bummed to see her leave the show, but the story they told within it was rather good I thought. I did quite like her parting gift, I correctly guessed what it was right before they showed it.
warboss wrote: I also have some major world building issues (both literally and figuratively) with the episode as well. As soon as I saw the skyscrapers on a world with such ridiculously high gravity, it bothered me as the material properties of elements don't change just because of G forces. I'd have preferred if things had instead been low to the ground and reinforced instead of elegant thin and tall to better account for that.
Xelayans appear to have some kind of anti-gravity technology of some sort, which they demonstrate with their flying car and floating wheelchair and tube trains. The buildings are only 10-ish stories high, which is not unreasonable when you consider that the pre-industrial Romans were more than capable of building equally tall things (they chose not to, because people could not exit safely if there was a fire). As a general rule, the materials properties of an item are more than adequate to support whatever they need to, and things fall down due to misalignment, not sheer strength. The compressive strength of stone is immense, and that is one of the most basic building materials. One could build something 1km tall out of granite (as strong as steel), if you could somehow manage to make it out of a single, uniform & seamless slab. That works out to about 300 stories. So if Xelaya has 30x Earth gravity, then normal engineering will work just fine.
That said, yes, the gravity thing was pretty silly.
But the architecture wasn't what I was most upset about.
It was okay. Lower tier of all episodes so far but that doesn't mean bad. I like Alara so I'm sad to see her go (if Bortus leaves I riot). The parting gift was a nice touch, although I do remember people complaining about that 'catchphrase' at the time.
Took me a while to place the voice of the 'houseguest' but it was Phlox!
I look forward to further interactions between Bortus and... Tharl? In a way I'm not so keen on another Xelayan as the Orville's imagination when it comes to alien species makes it almost a missed opportunity.
Phlox! I totally misidentified him! I immediately recognized him as another Star Trek actor, but my brain went to Neelix. But no, now that you say Phlox that’s absolutely right, obviously.
Also yes, the Tick. I caught Warburton’s name at the beginning of the episode. Don’t care for the character so far though with what little we’ve seen.
Still not feeling this series (season) yet, it seems like three filler episodes and no real meat to it. Hope its not the last of Alara as I quite liked the character.
Interesting to see two Trek doctors in one episode, wonder if we will get Walter Koenig or Marc Alaimo appearing.
I had seen on that egotastic youtube channel that the actress playing the love interest was the same as the female krill one a while back. While it was possible she was playing the same character given the theme of her first episode, Trek has a long history of recasting actors with and without makeup (Flox, Tuvok, Shran, etc) in different roles sometimes even in the same series so it wasn't too out of the ordinary although typically not so quickly. When I saw her on the shuttle with the Krill attacking, it became immedately obvious pretty quick she was an enemy krill agent. All in all a good episode (not as good as her previous one in season 1). The makeup/masks of the aliens attacking the krill unfortunately looked like bad SYFY saturday fantasy orcs in rubber masks at times whereas I think they were going for the look/feel of the mercs in Fifth Element. Plus, I'm not that big of a fan of Billy Joel.
The aliens that attacked the Krill seemed like less bulky versions of the Mangalor from Fifth Element.
Overall it was a fine episode but darn it all if at the end when they played Billy Joel as they sent Teleya off and showed Cap Mercer looking all melancholy that I didn't get hit with some momentary feels.
Bit of worldbuilding, with an unknown race added that seem to be in conflict with the Krill on the other side of their Empire. Maybe Mercer's actions here will be the start of a peace process?
Overall I haven't been wowed by any of the outright new episodes (favourite is still the held over 'Primal Urges') but neither am I disliking anything, it's all moving along at solid 7/10. This and 'Vikings' are my only two weekly pleasures at the moment to be honest.
"We canoodled... you canoodled with me... that was all fake?"
I'd add that the Orks are 100% correct in their approach to the Krill:
* offer NO negotiation,
* give NO quarter,
* show NO mercy,
* allow NO escapees,
* take NO prisoners,
* leave NO survivors.
The Orks recognize that the Krill represent an existential threat that cannot be negotiated with, because the Krill are extremist fanatic ideologues. We've seen that the Krill have no qualms about attacking civilian outposts and such with WMD, due to their ubermensh + Manifest Destiny ideology. That's why the Krill automatically identify and sympathize with the Nazis in Raiders of the Lost Ark. When there can be no negotiated middle ground, the only choice is extermination and eradication. Carthago Delenda Est.
Aside from the fact that the Orks are literally in a fight for their very existence, my expectation is that the Orks are actually going to be an exceedingly gracious, highly-cultured, highly-refined species driven to absolute ruthlessness due to the threat that the Krill currently operate. It'd be a great shift to show the "scary, monstrous" Orks are actually High Elves when not at war. The Orks are probably Artisans and Entertainers and Authors who've taken up arms to preserve themselves the only way that they can, after a series of failed diplomacy efforts.
As a metaphor for conflict in the Middle East, and Islam in general, it's a good contrast. I really hope that they keep coming back to this, along with the Orks.
Well that was the first episode of the show that was bordering on being just bad. It wrapped up a bit too neatly, and didn't feel well executed. Unsure how to feel about Talla, but I didn't immediately dislike her, so that's perhaps a good sign.
Yup. I'm really not a fan of I can't believe it's not Alara Selayan female security chief... it's as if the actress wanted to leave but they didn't want to change the script except for a search/cut/paste of her name because changing the pickle jar jokes would be too hard. They should have introduced a new race into that role with the same actress and then later on reintroduced a Selayan for some other role on the ship. YMMV. It was an ok episode.
Yeah, apparently it’s because her actress wanted to star in a different show on Netflix and left for that. Making a point of finding someone of the same species for the job seems weird, but kind of makes sense to have a super strong security chief? I specifically hope they Don’t make the pickles refence since Alara made a point of giving the captain that going away present.
I loved the premise of the episode - everyone so excited about First Contact and I can't think of a specific TNG episode that had the same idea so +1 Orville I guess...
On the other hand I wasn't really convinced by the solution... in my head I was yelling at the TV "how can they be born under a constellation/star sign that can't possibly exist on the planet they were born on?".
Some decent Bortus lines again.
New Xelayan was okay... Alara without the insecurities. Maybe an episode will show her to be too cocky?
Still feels like this season has not really started yet, haven't disliked any of the episodes but they all just seem like filler to me. Hope it gets better sooner rather than later. I guess I have just gotten so used to overarching plot lines with the occasional monster of the month episode that Orville feels a bit disjointed?
Riquende wrote: I loved the premise of the episode - everyone so excited about First Contact and I can't think of a specific TNG episode that had the same idea so +1 Orville I guess...
On the other hand I wasn't really convinced by the solution... in my head I was yelling at the TV "how can they be born under a constellation/star sign that can't possibly exist on the planet they were born on?".
Some decent Bortus lines again.
New Xelayan was okay... Alara without the insecurities. Maybe an episode will show her to be too cocky?
Eh, to be fair, while their reaction was daft and the solution to that reaction was a bit "easy" in the end, that can be read as part of the extremely subtle and nuanced( ) implication that astrology is dumb and people who believe it are really, really super-dumb and people who base their whole culture around it are basically clinically dumb. I mean, if you're irrational enough to believe that the movement of stars determines someone's personality - and moreover so irrational that you believe that to such an intense degree that you put anyone born under a "bad sign" into concentration camps - is an argument like "but the constellations are different in the skies of the worlds we were born on" going to make a dent?
Well... that felt rushed and corny to me. At least we got to see the actor playing Isaac. It just all felt like a fast forward derivative of what Data went through over 8 seasons.
Been expecting that episode for awhile now. They were definitely working towards pairing those two together. That said I don’t think it’s really rushed. Isaac is still totally aromantic and is approaching it entirely from a perspective of logic and essentially because it’s simply easier for him than not doing it. I also thought the bridge scene of them admonishing him was totally unwarrented. Claire was repeatedly warned by people that he doesn’t feel emotion, and she aknowledged it, but then when it goes poorly they all blamed him anyways. I wonder how long until they invent/discover an emotion chip.
Side note, how long until Isaac’s research on biologicals is complete and his people launch the great robot uprising?
You folks didn't feel that going from a slight tingle of romance to expressing being in love in two dates was rushed? Or that the whole dancing in the rain on the bridge of an intergalactic starship was corny?
I've come to the conclusion that I just don't like the Orville. I really *want* to like it but I just don't but rather tolerate it. There are individual characters, designs, scenes, and even a couple of episodes that I do like but not the show overall. I've been giving it the benefit of the doubt mainly because of what it is (a broadcast well funded scifi show) and because of what it stands for (an alternative to the paywalled STD that goes out of its way to insult its core audience and own IP) but not anymore. Obviously YMMV.
I think maybe I'm used to British shows, which tend to have 'seasons' of 6 episodes and largely short runs, so that you don't tend to have really long arcs exploring something like this. Data's arcs were played out over the whole show's 180-odd episodes, and he was also a more major character on TNG than Claire or Isaac are on the Orville.
And I'd accept your point more readily if Isaac and Claire had just met the once and immediately gone on their first date, but they have worked together for a year at this point and it seems interact regularly; I think in that instance you'd go quite quickly to expressing love once you'd allowed yourself to admit your feelings to yourself.
The rain on the bridge is one of those 'really going to stretch the suspension of disbelief here' moments, I'll grant you that! It's a cute moment but you have to hope textile technology has drastically improved or that carpet is going to smell damp for months...
warboss wrote: You folks didn't feel that going from a slight tingle of romance to expressing being in love in two dates was rushed?
Or that the whole dancing in the rain on the bridge of an intergalactic starship was corny?
I've come to the conclusion that I just don't like the Orville. I really *want* to like it but I just don't but rather tolerate it..
It's not 2 dates. It's 1-and-a-half seasons, where significant time can pass between episodes, or even within an episode. Recall that First Contact was said to be at least a month over the hour on air. Also however long it took to repair the badly-damaged Orville after the Krill fight. They work together for quite a while, so no, it's not like tonight's episode has been the first time they ever met. If you want to pick at spaceship romance, how long did Data know Yar before they were intimate?
The rain thing was a little corny, and that's the show. The rain itself was a good surprise, and totally in-line with the show itself being character-driven. Not at all like John and Malloy both racing to the bridge with the news.
If it's not your style of show, that's fine. I like it. The sight of so many aliens in the audience is such a nice, subtle use of FX.
Fair enough and I'm glad that others find it enjoyable even if I don't. I'll just have to wait for the next season of the Expanse to get my scifi tv fix. I'll probably still watch the Orville on occasion but I probably won't make the time to ensure that I catch it first run like I've been doing for the past season and a half.
AduroT wrote: Btw, I was a little sad they didn’t sneak a Star Trek Theme into the symphony scene.
Yes! I was half expecting a nod to something (if Trek is too on the nose then the opening bars to the Star Wars main theme?), but never mind. I was impressed they went all out with the orchestra, far cry from watching a jazz quartet in Ten Forward (although wasn't that a huge crowd for an 8 year old's piano recital? Just how many 'personal stops' did Claire make around the ship?)
Warboss, I think the best plan is to come in here after every episode airs, the discussion over each episode seems measured and should give a good sense of the 'tone' of the show that week.
As much as I liked that, I feel now like "another strong Orville episode that deals with social issues and interpersonal relationships" needs to give way to "lasers! pew pew!" for an episode or two.
What's that Lassie? The next two episodes are two parter?
Given that this is clearly NOT Star Trek, can we not call it "Star Trek: The Orville", and just call it "The Orville"?
Aside from the visual differences, Star Trek has never been anywhere near as character-driven as The Orville is showing itself to be; I think The Orville may well be even more blatantly socially progressive and boundary-pushing than even TOS was.
JohnHwangDD wrote: Given that this is clearly NOT Star Trek, can we not call it "Star Trek: The Orville", and just call it "The Orville"?
Aside from the visual differences, Star Trek has never been anywhere near as character-driven as The Orville is showing itself to be; I think The Orville may well be even more blatantly socially progressive and boundary-pushing than even TOS was.
Just figured I'd post about this here. Apparently the Orville will be getting a heroclix set some time after the TNG set comes out in June and September. No word on an STD set though....
JohnHwangDD wrote: Given that this is clearly NOT Star Trek, can we not call it "Star Trek: The Orville", and just call it "The Orville"?
It's more Star Trek than anything else being broadcast right now, which was the idea behind the title...
But wow, that was some bombast in the music at the end there! The Kaylon didn't seem to care about people snooping about, but then I guess when you consider people so far beneath you it doesn't matter when they find out the dastardly scheme. I got a lot of Mass Effect feels throughout that as well, from flying into the 'obviously advanced' city to the erasure of biological life.
They gave the best comedy line to Bortus again. He hated that party.
And I was wondering how long we'd have to wait to hear Malloy sing...
I will say I’m surprised the Kaylons are attacking already. I figured the Union would get closer to peace with the Krill first, and then the Kaylon’s sudden but inevitable betrayal against all biologicals would be the tipping point that really forced the two to work together and give the show it’s newer, bigger antagonist race to change things up. Plus give Isacc more time to develop his not-emotions so that it’s more believable when he saves them all in the end. As is, I can’t see any reason why he would, but I just kind of know he will.
I always suspected Isaac was doing recon for a robot invasion. Nonetheless, quite shocking to see so much of the crew gunned down. I don’t think we’ve seen the Orville take casualties before, especially on this level.
The one thing I liked is that they didn't even care that they had been discovered. Presenting these AIs as true sociopaths and not some hateful, fearful, or "evil" incarnation of the human psyche is much better.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: I don’t think we’ve seen the Orville take casualties before, especially on this level.
Yeah. I suppose it's the nature of the show that meant I assumed they were stun beams or something and the guys being shot would be pulled up and herded in with the rest of the crew but no, those bodies were definitely just left there dead...
Although it begs the question (and the main answer is 'it's a family show') why the whole crew haven't just been mercilessly executed by the Kaylons? I suppose they could be useful human shields on the approach to Earth (for all their tech superiority, the Orville itself is presented as a scout/exploration vessel so you'd assume the Union has battleships that could tear it apart).
Riquende wrote: Although it begs the question (and the main answer is 'it's a family show') why the whole crew haven't just been mercilessly executed by the Kaylons?
While the Kaylons May be highly advanced, their weapons are still no match for the Orville’s plot shield technology.
Catching up. Just watched Deflectors. I was initially bored but the level of writing caught my attention. I like that things are not nicely tied up at the end of every episode. Also it shows the Union is a real Confederation, not wordspeak for a Federation style where everyone acts perfectly and identically, but that the different worlds retain their own customs, strengths, and rights. I doubt the Federation would permit a Moklin to join it, frankly.
Shows hope that after the Krell and the Reman Ork guys get sorted, they could join as well. Mayhaps in the next season the three groups join forces against the Cylons er Kaylons...
Its a shame the Kaylons don't have their own Caprica Six.
Sssssssoooooooooooooo... Yeah, I was pretty near spot on. All I really got wrong was
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I had thought they could have used the Kaylon threat to cement a Union/Krill alliance, but instead theyre using it for the beginning foundation of one. Looks like it’s still gonna be a tough road though based on the preview for next week.
I missed it and had to watch it on their website. It was definitely almost entirely predictable and occasionally illogical in a very TV scifi trope way but enjoyable nonetheless. I can see where they spent the money they saved on all those character episodes in a row that they showed.
I enjoyed the episode. It was reminiscent of the Borg attack on Earth but these guys aren’t completely indestructible like the Borg snow it made for a cool battle. Also, Yophrit to the rescue!
Isaac’s betrayal was entirely predictable and utterly disappointing. For as big a deal as they harp on about their lack of emotions, they clearly have to have some or he should never have done that. Honestly I was hoping the show might be brave enough to let him stay with his people, but I didn’t expect it to.
Yeah, honestly this was the most disappointing episode of the show so far. Everything was just a bit too convenient, too easy, there didn't really seem to be much of a "message" to it, and despite all the deaths and 'splosions there wasn't much of a sense of threat to it all.
It did wrap up a bit too easy. No one of any significance died. And those who did were created in the episode specifically to die. Hopefully the season pulls through a good couple episodes at the end, instead of fizzling out.
Eh, I don’t mind them not killing off named characters. The only one I would have wanted to go was Isaac simply due to how his character should have been imho. Otherwise I didn’t think it was too easy or anything. The Kaylon’s weren’t wiped out, so they can easily come back. You got the heavy casualties from both sides, but it’s not like they were going to destroy the series’ namesake. The budding Krill alliance was a thing I expected and I liked how they did it, with the Captain kind of dismissing them until pursuing sphere showed up and demonstrated its superior capabilities, and then their attitude when they did help saying try not to get in our way. I was a little surprised they did the teamup without any assistance from Mercer’s Krill girlfriend. My only real complaint will continue to be Isaac’s about face, where he had been well depicted as an emotionless machine until this one episode, where he suddenly decides to murder his leader and betray his race over attachment to a kid.
Just caught up on the latest episode, well that was predictable. Very pretty space battle but not a lot else, I hope things start getting better soon as this entire season has been pretty poor in my opinion. Wonder if this is going to lead to a Krill/Union v Kaylon war or just be a one off brushed under the carpet type affair.
ingtaer wrote: Just caught up on the latest episode, well that was predictable. Very pretty space battle but not a lot else, I hope things start getting better soon as this entire season has been pretty poor in my opinion. Wonder if this is going to lead to a Krill/Union v Kaylon war or just be a one off brushed under the carpet type affair.
Very nice space battle. Is it me or did the Union have some ships (battleships?) that looked so big that the Orville was fighter sized next to them (scene where its flying through a Union ship's ring as it explodes).
AduroT wrote: There were definitely some Union ships that dwarfed the Orville.
So, was that the Union fleet or just the Human fleet? I noticed the Meklins have different ships, uniforms, etc.
Is it that each planet has its PDF navy while the Union fleet is their deepwater navy?
I imagine it’s similar to Star Trek where the Star Fleet ships tend to be human ships, and member races still have their own distinct designs. So that was probably the main human fleet. Would have liked to see a better mix now that you mention it.
ingtaer wrote: Just caught up on the latest episode, well that was predictable. Very pretty space battle but not a lot else, I hope things start getting better soon as this entire season has been pretty poor in my opinion. Wonder if this is going to lead to a Krill/Union v Kaylon war or just be a one off brushed under the carpet type affair.
Very nice space battle. Is it me or did the Union have some ships (battleships?) that looked so big that the Orville was fighter sized next to them (scene where its flying through a Union ship's ring as it explodes).
I thought there were three classes of ships on the Union side, the small Orville class (mid range exploratory), the cruiser size we saw in the last season and a battleship sized but would have to watch it again to be sure.
So, was that the Union fleet or just the Human fleet? I noticed the Meklins have different ships, uniforms, etc.
Is it that each planet has its PDF navy while the Union fleet is their deepwater navy?
I didn't notice the line in the episode, but a YT review said Halsey apparently said the on-screen fleet was 10% of the Union fleet.
I assume that most Union planets have their own 'militia' for planetary defence, and presumably have ships for civil tasks like short range transportation & exploration, industrial usage etc, with the Union fleets being a sort of 'UN/NATO' long term and/or crisis mission force. Earth seems to be the driving force of the Union so perhaps forgoes a local force so that the unified command is dominated by Human personnel (to save on the Union's CGI/make up budgets)
On the Union ships shown at the Battle of Earth, according to the wiki there were;
Fighters.
Leviathan class (heavy cruiser).
Science class.
Colossus class (Battleship).
I am pretty confused about how the Moclans (and presumably other races) fit in with the whole Union structure, hopefully some of the politics can be expanded upon.
Presumably, the wiki is pretty sparse and I would have to watch the whole thing again. The reference pic for the Colossus is;
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Another pic shows the Colossus and the heavy cruiser so one can see they are not the same ship;
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Though looking at it in the massive image I actually think that the third ship shown isn't a Colossus at all, the lines of the bow sweep to amidships on the flank don't match and on the third pic that looks like a Exploratory class to her right and the scale would suggest the pic is actually of something far smaller.
Edit again; got a screen shot from the battle that shows the Orville as well as the other ships;
warboss wrote: I saw the heavy cruisers introduced last season but I don't recall a battleship. Is it somewhere in this clip?
i thought it was in the battle scene before this, where the Orville flies through one of the Quantum struts that explodes in front of them of a much much larger union ship.
ingtaer wrote: Presumably, the wiki is pretty sparse and I would have to watch the whole thing again. The reference pic for the Colossus is;
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Another pic shows the Colossus and the heavy cruiser so one can see they are not the same ship;
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Though looking at it in the massive image I actually think that the third ship shown isn't a Colossus at all, the lines of the bow sweep to amidships on the flank don't match and on the third pic that looks like a Exploratory class to her right and the scale would suggest the pic is actually of something far smaller.
Thanks. I took a look at the wiki before posting and found that same blurry intro image as well. I definitely saw the heavy cruiser multiple times though and like that design. From the single pic of the battleship, I don't really have an opinion yet. In general, I'm ok with the nautical shapes on spaceships (I did like and build Covenant ships for the failed Halo Fleet Battles games) but that one seems a little too bulbous possibly at that angle.
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Frazzled wrote: i thought it was in the battle scene before this, where the Orville flies through one of the Quantum struts that explodes in front of them of a much much larger union ship.
Yeah, I remember that scene as well but couldn't find an easily viewable version of it short of rewatching the whole episode with commercials on the orville website (which is how I watched the episode as I missed it on tv).
Ok, time to test out how predictable this episode will be. It's only 16 minutes in so I'll make some educated guesses.
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One (the daughter probably) or both of the human "criminals" are Krill infiltrators and this is a test of the humans'/Union's honor by the Krill to see if they'll give up their own instead of standing their ground... to see if they're worthy of peace with the Krill.
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Had never considered that. I thought it was super telegraphed that the daughter was the weapon. I was expecting somehow psychic or something, but was otherwise correct in my expectations of how it would all play out.
I actually had both thoughts - "What will the Humans do with this shuttle" as a test, and then when they were all going on and on about the sweeps showing nothing and saying the girl hadn't been checked out that she was doing something...somehow.
I also thought they did some minimal makeup on her to give a slightly non-human edge (around the eyes) which could be explained away as a haunted, emaciated look.
Really good episode for me. Like a lot of Orville episodes you can point to the clear TNG influences (I guess that one with Riker and his ex-Captain, plus some of the Cardassian political stuff) but it had enough of its own spin.
I would have preferred to hear the rubber glove 'snap' over the comm rather than have the joke hammered home but that's a minor quibble.
I hadn't noticed there was a week's gap, that's disappointing!
Does anyone know for sure how many episodes there are this season? I've seen conflicting reports of 11 (making next week's the (potential series) finale), but in a couple of places I've seen that 14 episodes were commissioned.
I liked that episode, but holy crap...a 3 week gap this time? I thought one week was bad. So there's 3 or so episodes left but now they're so far off I have to mark a calendar or make an alert so I don't forget it's 3 weeks from now.
Disappointed that we're getting annoying gaps - although when I'm still watching new episodes in 6 weeks time rather than it being over I won't mind that so much...
More reaction tonight after I've watched yesterday's episode!
I hated the premise of the episode but found it quite... cute in the end. Nice to see yet another Star Trek actor as well as a different take on the old holo addiction thing. Surprised that Greg wasn't played by Reg Barclay.
I really liked that one... shades of Geordi/Leah Brahms and probably a couple of others. But, with Primal Urges moved to this season the themes within REALLY felt a bit familiar.
A return to action next month then, with something firing purple lasers so not the Krill or Kaylon.
That was pretty great. Yet another look at Moclan society, but they did a good job of asking a difficult question.
Bortus actually smiled at the end. First time?
Seth has a knack of excellent musical cues.
Interesting to see the Union Council in operation.
Admirals: Assemble! I think that was all of them together?
I always wonder when they do these kinds of interviews - do the actors & other folk really genuinely believe that line they all spout about canon and writing being the most important things on STD, or is it just what they're told to say?
So did culture stop advancing after our century? All they reference is music and movies and characters from our day and age and nothing from the three hundred years between now and then.
AduroT wrote: So did culture stop advancing after our century? All they reference is music and movies and characters from our day and age and nothing from the three hundred years between now and then.
How does it feel to know you're living in the planet's golden age?
I don't think the Orville's timeline has even been hinted at, has it? Maybe there's some sort of societal collapse in store, like the Dark Ages after the fall of Rome, that will see the next couple of hundred years become a blasted cultural desert.
AduroT wrote: So did culture stop advancing after our century? All they reference is music and movies and characters from our day and age and nothing from the three hundred years between now and then.
How does it feel to know you're living in the planet's golden age?
I don't think the Orville's timeline has even been hinted at, has it? Maybe there's some sort of societal collapse in store, like the Dark Ages after the fall of Rome, that will see the next couple of hundred years become a blasted cultural desert.
When they found the time capsul I believe they said it was ~300 years old. So they’ve got this thing where they’ve preserved movies and music and muppets, but don’t really know how we live.
I'm enjoying the setup in this 2 part finale, though I can't help but feel that not a single 'real' Trek captain would have made Ed's decision to date the duplicate Kelly, nor even considered it.
Although now I think of it, Ed has form for dating attractive time travellers that appear onboard...
Yeah, it was pretty bone headed to try and date her or even allow her to even consider the idea of serving on the same ship. While the ending somewhat redeemed it, I felt it was a meh episode overall. I did enjoy the Moclan euro dance floor scene though.
So how do we think Kelly changing the timeline is going to play out? I assume that she'll be more career-driven to make captain sooner. And also how does Ed's life change? My first thought is that he ends up a failure, but realistically he was having a good career before the divorce which held him back, so maybe he's captain of a different, larger ship?
I'm expecting an episode that starts in the new timeline as if nothing's changed for them, Kelly in command. The key difference will be something like losing an outright war with the Krill (thanks to Ed not having been involved and helping to thaw relations). One of the crew goes Yesterday's Enterprise Guinan-style "this isn't right" (not sure who would know that though) and they realise the best shot in the war is to restore the timeline... somehow.
Sounds very predictable and very likely. I really hate time travel episodes, last of TNG was good but otherwise they just tend to hack me off more than anything.
Think Ed will make either Admiral or an Alcholic and fear that Kelly mkII will be dating Gordon.
I liked the episode, especially the ending. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.
Also good to see the Kaylons have not been forgotten plotwise and are still a threat. I am surprised the meatbags haven't formed battle groups to attack or at least defend their turf more.
On the one hand, I like that they didn’t forget about the Kaylon threat. On the other, I don’t like how they depicted it. They’re basically just out exploring and if you happen to bump into any Kaylons you’re dead because they’re faster and stronger than you and want to kill everyone. They only survived by random luck basically. Krill encounters were at least winnable and not foregone conclusions.
AduroT wrote: On the one hand, I like that they didn’t forget about the Kaylon threat. On the other, I don’t like how they depicted it. They’re basically just out exploring and if you happen to bump into any Kaylons you’re dead because they’re faster and stronger than you and want to kill everyone. They only survived by random luck basically. Krill encounters were at least winnable and not foregone conclusions.
Well they were traveling, but it didn't say exploring. But yes, they treat threats like STOS and TNG, not DS9...
Sisko would already be leading cavalry raids into Kaylon space...
We live in a weird time were there are two Star Trek shows on and the one that is not named Star Trek is more Trekian than the one that is. I'm glad they are both around but over the last half of the latest two seasons I find my enjoyment of the two really diverging. Orville is just much better usually week to week. Orville pretends to be light and irreverent but actually is often about something serious or at least interesting. STD tries to be very serious and pretends to be about something but its becoming increasing clear that it's about nothing.
Almost forgot about the season finale today and missed the first 15 or so minutes unfortunately. An interesting episode ala Yesterday's Enterprise but I've got some nits to pick with it and I'll start in true Trek fashion with the most inane. What ever they protect the alcohol with whether that be a force field or gravity well in the mess hall on the shelves behind the counter, that's what they need to install into the ship's deflectors instead of the Moclan upgrades. That ship survived a battle with the Kaylon where it was almost destroyed and crashed into the ocean without knocking over let alone breaking a single bottle of booze! Whatever is protecting those bottles must be almost as strong as the windows on the STD Enterprise that can protect against megaton explosions that rip out half the saucer but can't scratch a viewport in a blast door.
Is anyone else having trouble accessing the videos on the Fox site? I haven't been able to watch the last two.
AduroT wrote: So did culture stop advancing after our century? All they reference is music and movies and characters from our day and age and nothing from the three hundred years between now and then.
I assume we're getting the Universally Translated modern equivalent to whatever 24th century entertainment they are 'actually' referencing, a good translation rather than a literal retelling of all their cultural context.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Is anyone else having trouble accessing the videos on the Fox site? I haven't been able to watch the last two.
Shows typically have a delay in streaming viewing to allow partners their own share of it (like cable companies on demand). Yesterday the episode wasn't available but tonight I was able to stream the first couple minutes I missed from the finale.
Her "dark timeline" outfit was a smidge...distracting
Seriously though, a solid episode. A shame that we're probably about to be in a dark timeline of our own, since I don't trust Fox to renew the show, leaving us with only Kurtzmantrek.
When they talked about "The Lieutenant" I was half expecting the leader of the resistance to be Dann... but that would be a season 1 decision and they don't tend to go for that sort of thing so much now. It was weird they had lines that hinted at alt-John and alt-Alara having a history as it came from nowhere and didn't have a pay off. I don't blame Kelly for changing the future, regardless of Ed calling her out for ignoring temporal physics class (or whatever the line was). If you had certain knowledge that you were going to be the cause of your own divorce within the next few years, would you still be able to go through with marrying that person?
The music score was amazing (I mean, it's always a strong point, but this one went above and beyond). It seemed at times to pull so much from John Williams, there were moments it could have been a Star Wars soundtrack.
So yeah, excellent end to the season. It's concerning there's no S3 news, but if it does end here then it's a brilliant body of work all the same.
Frazzled wrote: Agreed. Whats the issue with Season 3, or lack of? Am I missing scuttlebutt?
No word either way, and I think S2 was announced about halfway through S1 so I guess it's a bad sign... but I heard something about funding being approved so no idea. I don't know how American shows are made/financed to be fair.
Don't know if need spoilers.
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One problem with the alt Kelly timeline: why didn't she tell higher ups about the Kayzon when she went back?
I guess she was still aware of not making huge changes to the timeline by telling people about major events, but still reasoned that marrying Ed was something she couldn't go through with. Either that or she tried but nobody believed her?
I guess she was still aware of not making huge changes to the timeline by telling people about major events, but still reasoned that marrying Ed was something she couldn't go through with. Either that or she tried but nobody believed her?
Fair point. However if they have entire classes on it at school, one would think there is a greater chance of belief.
Frazzled wrote: Agreed. Whats the issue with Season 3, or lack of? Am I missing scuttlebutt?
Don't know if need spoilers.
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One problem with the alt Kelly timeline: why didn't she tell higher ups about the Kayzon when she went back?
What you're missing is that it's on Fox, Slayer of Sci-Fi, Canceller of Good Shows. If a sci-fi show on Fox doesn't get a renewal by the midpoint of its presently-airing season, people start to get worried.
Plus there is the Disney Fox merger that just happened which will invariably lead to shakeups whether they be cancellations or shifts to the new streaming service. Additionally, at least according to various youtubers, Seth McFarlane's longtime contract with Fox ends this summer so he'll be open to offers on other networks/platforms if true.
warboss wrote: Plus there is the Disney Fox merger that just happened which will invariably lead to shakeups whether they be cancellations or shifts to the new streaming service. Additionally, at least according to various youtubers, Seth McFarlane's longtime contract with Fox ends this summer so he'll be open to offers on other networks/platforms if true.
Maybe we can all take some small measure of comfort in the idea that if the Many Worlds hypothesis is true, there's a universe out there where in just a few short months CBS will gakcan Kurtzman and hires McFarlane to be the Feige of Star Trek.
The creator of that show makes crazy syndication money for them on Family Guy and other stuff, so they can keep doing this as long as it doesn't actually lose money.
They could probably make a ton on merchandising if they dared reach for it. Uniforms? I'd get one. Phasers? Yep. 1/2500 scale starship models? I'd buy sooooooo many!
I really hope Wizkids doesn't fumble the license and forget to make Orville Attack Wing.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: They could probably make a ton on merchandising if they dared reach for it. Uniforms? I'd get one. Phasers? Yep. 1/2500 scale starship models? I'd buy sooooooo many!
I really hope Wizkids doesn't fumble the license and forget to make Orville Attack Wing.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: They could probably make a ton on merchandising if they dared reach for it. Uniforms? I'd get one. Phasers? Yep. 1/2500 scale starship models? I'd buy sooooooo many!
I really hope Wizkids doesn't fumble the license and forget to make Orville Attack Wing.
Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'll have to look around for more options like that if Fox doesn't license out any official models soon.
However, that particular Orcille seems closer to Attack Wing size rather than to scale with any official Trek scale models, and it looks like it costs twice as much with worse detail fidelity than many of the unofficial Star Trek stores on Shape Ways selling similarly sized ships.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: They could probably make a ton on merchandising if they dared reach for it.
Now that it's going into a 3rd season, you'd think merchandise would be a given. Especially models. It's crazy that there aren't any scale models.
Maybe the wizkids clix deal will jumpstart that if successful. I saw the initial announcement but I don't recall if ship models were mentioned or just infanfry.
Seth MacFarlane’s space adventure series The Orville is moving to Hulu from Fox for its upcoming third season. The series will be available exclusively on the streaming service as a Hulu Original in late 2020. MacFarlane made the announcement today during the show’s panel at Comic-Con in San Diego.
As for the decision to move the series, which was renewed by Fox for a third season in May, Deadline hears the show has evolved and production timelines have pushed delivery, making what was planned as a mid-season debut difficult. The show has a passionate fan base, and Hulu was able to step in as a home where the show can continue. Following Disney’s acquisition of 21st Century Fox assets, Hulu is now a corporate sibling to The Orville producer 20th TV, where MacFarlane has long been under a deal, but Fox no longer is.
“The Orville has been a labor of love for me, and there are two companies which have supported that vision in a big way: 20th Century Fox Television, where I’ve had a deal since the start of my career, and Fox Broadcasting Company, now Fox Entertainment, which has been my broadcast home for over 20 years,” MacFarlane said in announcing the move.
“My friends at the network understood what I was trying to do with this series, and they’ve done a spectacular job of marketing, launching and programming it for these past two seasons. But as the show has evolved and become more ambitious production-wise, I determined that I would not be able to deliver episodes until 2020, which would be challenging for the network,” MacFarlane continued. “So we began to discuss how best to support the third season in a way that worked for the show. It’s exactly this kind of willingness to accommodate a show’s creative needs that’s made me want to stick around for so long. I am hugely indebted to Charlie Collier and Fox Entertainment for their generosity and look forward to developing future projects there. And to my new friends at Hulu, I look forward to our new partnership exploring the galaxy together.”
A move to Hulu allows more flexibility with episode orders and running times as well as production schedules, which was important to MacFarlane.
Created and written by MacFarlane, the hour-long sci-fi adventure series is set 400 years in the future and follows The U.S.S. Orville, a mid-level exploratory spaceship. Its crew, both human and alien, face the wonders and dangers of outer space, while also dealing with the problems of everyday life. MacFarlane plays Capt. Ed Mercer, and directed some episodes
“Fox Entertainment has been a fantastic home for The Orville and their willingness to support the show’s move to Hulu is incredibly appreciated; they really are great partners to us on so many shows and this is one more example. We’re thrilled as a studio to find this creative solution which is so meaningful to Seth and keeps the show on track to continue entertaining its millions of fans,” said Carolyn Cassidy, President of Creative Affairs, 20th Century Fox Television.
It’s unusual, but not unheard of that a series moves to a new home after renewal by another network.
Psychological thriller series You had been renewed by its original network Lifetime before moving to Netflix, and The Mindy Project also moved from Fox to Hulu, though it was at the time of renewal when it was clear Fox would not renew it.
The Orville has developed a devoted fan following and excels in delayed and on-demand viewing. In its first season on Fox, it averaged 10.7 million total viewers in multi-platform audience, up 149% from its Live+Same Day delivery. In Season 2, The Orville averaged 1.4 and 1.81 million viewers in adults 18-49 and 5.4 million total viewers. Its Season 2 ender drew a 0.7 rating and 2.92 million viewers in Live+Same Day.
“We know our viewers are huge fans of The Orville, along with many of Seth MacFarlane’s groundbreaking hit shows, and we can’t wait to bring Season 3 to them exclusively on the platform,” said Craig Erwich, SVP Content Development, Hulu. “Hulu is a home for the world’s most sought-after creative talent, and we’re incredibly excited to welcome Seth and the entire cast and creative team of The Orville to our Hulu Originals slate.”
The third season of The Orville will join Hulu’s lineup of genre programming including the Emmy-nominated Castle Rock from J.J. Abrams and Stephen King, Marvel’s Runaways, Future Man from Seth Rogen, the Into the Dark franchise from Blumhouse Television and the upcoming hyper-noir drama series Reprisal starring Abigail Spencer. It also joins MacFarlane’s other series on Hulu, including American Dad and Family Guy.
The Orville is produced by 20th Century Fox Television and Fuzzy Door Productions. MacFarlane, executive produces with Brannon Braga, David A. Goodman, Jason Clark and Jon Cassar. Jon Favreau directed the series premiere episode.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Will they still release DVDs? If not, I guess theOrville's dead to me.
Not sure but good question. Since the switch to bluray and streaming in the industry, I've really gotten out of the practice of buying media since the days of DVD's primacy. I really don't know if any of the major streaming services (or specifically Hulu in this case) offer DVDs of their programs after their initial run.
They still sell DVDs? I haven't had a dedicated player for almost 5 years, don't own any consoles, and I don't even put DVD drives into my desktop PCs any more as they take up a load of space and I honestly can't remember the last time I used one.
For anyone interested in buying any Orville miniatures, Studio Bergstrom sells some look-alikes. They sell a whole fleet. This may be your last chance to get them, so order now if interested.
Here are their Orville ships next to some other ship models, notably the Red Alert Space Combat ships and resin ships approximating a BFG grand cruiser and a Trek Attack Wing ship in size.
Thanks for the heads up Bob, what is the casting like? SB have been rather hit and miss in the past (their SW stuff was notably horrible) though from that photo they look good. Not sure if I can afford to get any with a trip overseas next week but may not have the chance again...
The Orville ships were really clean casts and fit together well. The little resin Trek-like ship has some warping that I'll have to fix with hot water, and the big resin ship has some rough places in recesses as well as tiny 3D print lines on it, although they might be too small to show through paint. I got all of these minis cleaned, washed and scrubbed, then glued in less than an hour excluding soak time. To paraphrase YouTube, they were super easy to assemble, barely an inconvenience to clean.
Edit: the big ship would require much more time for someone who wanted to file away the printing texture.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The Orville battleship is cast in a resin like Dropzone Commander's, while the big Battlestar feels more like Spartan or Scibor's resin.
Wow.. you got the whole lineup? Impressive. I've been meaning to look into the ship background info for the Orville for some time. I saw Bergstrom's announcement on a trek group that he's having some serious personal financial issues so it indeed might be a last chance situation. I like the Woomera line of updated FASA ships by MacrossMartin as well.
I did not get the whole line. He created a couple of other types of light cruiser and destroyer, as well as having two sizes/scales for each design, as well as the shuttles. I could not get everything.
He has a lot of cool ships. If I had unlimited funds, and if they were resin rather than metal, I might have bought some of the SG1 ships, the Galaxy Quest ship, and a Gunstar.
Well that is a disapointment, was not expecting much from wizkids but not even gettting characters skin colour right is pretty piss poor.
Also they are not spaceships so triple failure.
While I agree that the skin color swap is a boneheaded mistake, are you guys really surprised that the actual models don't live up to the 3d render examples? They never do with Clix whether they're humanoid figs or ships.
Nah not really warboss, but at least with the ships they can be repainted to a reasonable standard and I am still really hoping for an Orville that does not cost organs to procure and is in a decent size for gaming.
Indeed Bob and I liked the look of the ones you got and was going to go all in but shipping was too much and had a trip to OZ... (pics are up thread on this page for anyone interested). Have you gotten any paint on them yet?
Well I caught up with season 2 on DVD (you're not alone Bob!) and....
What show are they making?
Are they making a lame SNL paradoy of it? Then by all means continue with episodes about Bortus needing to pee.
Are they making a heartfelt Star Trek fan film? Then by all means continue with episodes about porn addition and intolerance.
Are they making their own thing? Then maybe actions should have consequences and crew members should not be able to commit high treason and face no repercussions.
So frustrating.
To me it's like finding a ST episode I missed the first time. Or a particularly good fan film on Youtube. But I can't take it seriously.
Ha ha alien dude only pees once a year, that isn't even a joke its like a vaguely amusing idea, certainly not what lead the season with.
I agree with you regarding *that* parody being unfunny (and nonsensical IMO) but some of the other alien jokes are both funnier and more interesting. It's an uneven show IMO and during both seasons I debated stopping watching at points. I didn't and was glad as there were some gems to balance out the stinkers.
) implication that astrology is dumb and people who believe it are really, really super-dumb and people who base their whole culture around it are basically clinically dumb. I mean, if you're irrational enough to believe that the movement of stars determines someone's personality - and moreover so irrational that you believe that to such an intense degree that you put anyone born under a "bad sign" into concentration camps - is an argument like "but the constellations are different in the skies of the worlds we were born on" going to make a dent?
