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Post by: ccs
"I really hate building these things."
This thought occurred to me tonight as I was assembling SM Drop Pod #3/8 (6 standard, +2 more customized for dreadnought delivery until I can track down a pair of actual FW Lucius Patterns).
Why was I building 8 drop pods? Because my Space Wolves have always been a 100% deep strike/teleport/infiltrate capable force.
Since 2e I've been using the rather crude (and inconvenient to carry around) pods Armorcast produced back in the 90's.
2 weeks ago the packs hit the table for the 1st time since 5th edition. The shop owner (a good friend) was mocking my giant chunks of 2e resin. So I jokingly told him that I'd have him order me a new pod for any squad that earned its pts. Or all of the armies pods (8) in the unlikely event of a victory.
This deal must've sounded great to the troops - for though they took heavy casualties doing it, they completely thrashed a Thousand Sons force.
So I had to have the shop order me enough pods to fully re-equip.
Free time on Fri/Sat was spent clipping/cleaning bits & priming.
Sunday was spent painting.
Monday afternoon/evening was assembly.
Bleh! If I ever decide I need any more SM pods I'll just EBay somebodies cheap cast offs, deal with the added effort to paint the innards, AND save some $....
So what models have you found that you dislike assembling?
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Post by: Jidmah
Infantry holding weapons shooting weapons in two hands... Oh, and the helbrute. Building the torso is really annoying and it always seems to have gaps in it, not to mention the effort needed to magnetize it properly. And feth the damn power scourge.
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Post by: Crazy Jay
The Tyranacyte. Never again. It’s like a drop pod but infinitely worse.
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Post by: IanVanCheese
Necrons. Basically all of them.
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Post by: Overread
HAIR long wavy hair!
Its a nightmare of curves and corners and a pain to get mould lines out of and always leaves me feeling that I've failed to get it all/gone over the top.
It's not tied to a specific model but anything with hair - Witch Aelves - Deamonettes!
Also split heads. Termagunats are a pain for these (and yet GW can make them from a single part for hormagaunts). Another part that just takes forever to look neat and to lose the join line.
Also anything like the Necron transporter - ergo models with lots of details that have to be build in parts (or just done with a really simple scheme) otherwise its nearly impossible to get into all the gaps. Some of the new high detail models like Necromunda Gangers are scaring me with how much detail there is in the GAPS between chests/tummies and weapons
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Post by: Excommunicatus
Hellflayers. Fiddly as [Expletive Deleted].
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Post by: Valkyrie
Anything Necron.
The one thing I used to hate the absolute most however, were the Warrior heads. You have to carve out their cheeks to get rid of the leftover sprue.
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Post by: Slipspace
Pretty much this. Having said that, some of the Necron models have assembly that borders on genius levels of component arrangement, so simple and solid is their construction. The vast majority, however, are almost impossible to assemble, with the Warriors being especially bad. All those silly orbs that need cleaned up don't help, nor do the various little power cables all the pilots have plugging them into their machines.
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Post by: Overread
Valkyrie wrote:Anything Necron.
The one thing I used to hate the absolute most however, were the Warrior heads. You have to carve out their cheeks to get rid of the leftover sprue.
I actually don't mind that - its a nice smooth easy to get to area to clean.
Now cables and gods anything with a crinkled surface (cables, plasma guns) those are the devil incarnate!
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
The Arks are especially bad.
You can tell they were designed by artists and not by actual hobbyists, because they look nice but are an absolute pain to build.
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Post by: A.T.
All those forgeworld mechanicus things with thin resin limbs on ball joints with oversized shallow sockets that don't want to stick together.
One of the arms on the tech priest for instance has about three separate linkages for positioning, each 2-3mm across, held onto by a 1mm resin 'pin'
And that's after it's all been cleaned, bent into shape in hot water, filled, and filed.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
Anything with sprue attachment points on a concave surface (like the plastic Warhound's feet, for instance).
Off-topic for this forum, but I hate assembling Infinity miniatures; needlessly multipart, and they're all fiddly wee bits. At least the joints are square sockets now, which makes it easier to line things up.
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Post by: catbarf
I hate assembling Death Korps infantry with a raging passion. Everything's bent, getting arms to align requires putty and gap-filling, mold lines are in awkward places, and the most basic infantryman consists of approximately three hundred pieces expressly formulated to stick to skin long before they stick to each other.
I love the sculpts but they are a hideous mess to put together and really make me appreciate the simplicity and user-friendliness of GW's plastic kits.
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Post by: Morkphoiz
Necron tomb sentinel from forge world. 20 tiny resin legs which come in two parts each, 20 secondary legs which are miniscule, 12 body segments which you can position as you please and looooong thin antennas made from resin.
It was a frickin Nightmare to clean and assemble.
The body needed a ton of green stuff and overnight drying to hold the shape, the fiddly legs were far too thin to support the weight of the body reliably so I had to pin the body to the base.
Then i had to position each leg with tweezers in a way that looked "natural" relative to the body position and the position of the other legs.
I hated every second of it but the result is stunning. Awesome looking model.
Edit: Sorry, I dont know why dakka decided to rotate my image
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Post by: vipoid
I have two of the old metal Wraiths, which I got about 15 years ago.
They are still in bits.
Every time I tried and glue the damn things together, they'd either completely refuse to stick (I've used about 4 different types of superglue on them) or else seem to stick only to fall to bits again a few days later.
It's like their Reanimation Protocols were programmed backwards and so they'll always try to disassemble themselves into their component parts.
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Post by: Ratius
Thought Eldar war walkers were fiddly little things with their legs.
Didnt enjoy finecast howling banshees (well getting them off the sprues anyways).
Old metal hive guard simply never got built. Woe was me.
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Post by: HoundsofDemos
Drop pods, if you get even the slightest thing wrong with the center or one of the up rights the whole thing ends up being wrong and it's hard to realize something is off until you've already glued things together.
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Post by: the_scotsman
Anything from Forgeworld.
Yo so we heard you like spindly bits made out of a super easy to break material, so we gave you all your ammo belts, tubes, wires and tendrils molded straight out with instructions to partially melt them and bend them into shape. When you break them you'll have that satisfaction of knowing the model you paid a 4000% profit markup on will now never look right!
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Post by: Ascalam
Another for drop pods here. Built a bunch for a friend of mine.
Monoliths. Feth that thing.
The old metal thunderfire cannon.
Metal gargoyles (shudder) that wouldn’t balance and would snap off their flight stand every time they fell over.
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Post by: Voss
Yeah, this. I only broke one piece (which wasn't a problem), but 'glue wheel to next wheel' got old really fast, and the joins between the 'body' of the chariot to the wheels is the one of the worst ideas ever.
Daemonettes in general are a comparatively minor annoyance with their flat joins rather than nice sockets.
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Post by: Not Online!!!
I for some reason can't wrap my head around the backpart of Valkyires, to the point where i left one lying around for 6 months in it's box after building the first one.
ironically i liked the ork planes though.
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Post by: Asmodai
Anything resin - whether Finecast or Forge World. It might look great at the end, but the actual process of cleaning and assembling is a chore.
This is in the 40K forum, but I'll also mention the old metal Warmachine Warjacks for needing huge amounts of filing and pinning and the filling of substantial gaps with greenstuff.
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Post by: Not Online!!!
Asmodai wrote:Anything resin - whether Finecast or Forge World. It might look great at the end, but the actual process of cleaning and assembling is a chore.
This is in the 40K forum, but I'll also mention the old metal Warmachine Warjacks for needing huge amounts of filing and pinning and the filling of substantial gaps with greenstuff.
Shudders in enforcer, melee weaponry, especially the finnicky chainsword!
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Post by: Excommunicatus
Voss wrote:
Yeah, this. I only broke one piece (which wasn't a problem), but 'glue wheel to next wheel' got old really fast, and the joins between the 'body' of the chariot to the wheels is the one of the worst ideas ever.
Daemonettes in general are a comparatively minor annoyance with their flat joins rather than nice sockets.
I see people complain about Daemonettes a lot but I'm with you, they're a cakewalk so long as you file the sprue artefacts off the shoulders and flat it out.
I hated putting together the wheels 'cause of the tedium, then when I joined the wheel sub-assemblies together they sagged. The connection from chariot to the pulpit is bad and difficult to glue and the connection from the chariot to the wheels is bad and if you make the slightest mistake none of it will match up unless you glue and then pinch them together.
So of course, I built five.
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Post by: Talizvar
I had "enjoyed" metal models but my top 2 involve metal models:
- Land Raider Crusader: The metal side sponsons were utter pain. Plastic model kit all the way.
- Thunderfire Cannon: Spindly, needs pinning in a bad way, had to add a base because I was afraid it would fall apart anyway.
I do admit, I have no love for SM Drop Pods.
They are the only models I have received "short-shots" on molds where even GW has trouble with them.
They look cool enough when done, just getting good fits and painting is a wee bit of a pain.
I find the SM Skimmers I do not enjoy as much, the front fuselage tends to like to develop gaps when glued together and is VERY bad to try to paint the two guys in it rather than separate from the vehicle.
The stand join is very bad as well, I usually have to beef it up a bit with larger clear rod.
Resin and "finecast" are in their own categories.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
I love the look of the Necromunda models, HATE building them. I've only gotten 2 gangs Orlock and Van Saar and they are not meant to be compatible with other GW kits or each other. And have to be built just right (arm #45 links to gun #46) making them about as much fun as doing taxes.
I had the same issue with Dreamforge.
I don't mind a lot of parts if they are there to give me options, but if you're including seperate neck bitz that only work with a specific head, then @#$% you.
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Post by: vaklor4
My worst model to assemble by far is the Mutalith Vortex Beast/Slaughterbrute kit. It is an absolute jigsaw puzzle of a kit, no matter how you build it.
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Post by: Hatachi
Heavy Bolter Chaos Marine... that stupid thing was a huge pain the butt for a stupid heavy bolter. The left arm only connects on the top via a verticle stand that never wanted to glue. The right hand connect at the wrist and the stupid thing was off horizontally by a full wrist legth to the point I messed up putting it together, but the pose was same as the box. I had to finally cut the stupid forearm in half and add a hair of green stuff in to change the angle of the arm to match up.
I've put entire squads together easily in the time it took me to put that one thing together.
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Post by: Alex_85
I found hard to assemble the Inceptor of the SM. Maybe it is just me but after building my LR Crussader I was thinking they would be more easy, but they were hard for me.
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Post by: alienux
I typically enjoy building just about any model, but if I had to choose one that was the most frustrating, I'd say it was the Ork team from Blood Bowl 2016. I think I ended up with as many holes in my fingers from spikey parts as I would have in a real life Ork battle.
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Post by: Valkyrie
There's nothing wrong with my backpart thank you very much!
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Post by: Iron_Captain
Anything that Forgeworld makes. Anything in Finecast. Anything with sprue connectors in stupid places (such on the inside of a curve or on a very thin part) where you can't really remove leftover sprue without damaging the model.
Apart from that I love building stuff.
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Post by: toasteroven
Anything that connects to a base solely by a thread of plastic and hope.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
I'll be honest, I hate building Rhino chassis based vehicles. If i haven't build 30 of the things with that chassis I've built at least 20. Unlike most of these sorts of things were you build a couple and then never need to do it again while you never stop building Rhino chassis if you play Marines.
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Post by: tneva82
Anything with legs that are multiple parts. I find it hard to get a) sensible pose b) not just standing in parade formation look
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Post by: Vaktathi
DKoK Grenadier hellgun power cables.
Metal Thunderfire Cannons. Absolutely nothing fit right.
Metal Obliterators.
Eldar Vampire flyer (this thing basically wont stay together and has huge gaps).
And a special mention for the Warmachine Khador Behemoth just because. A monumentally poorly designed model.
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Post by: NoiseMarine with Tinnitus
Anything branded 'Easy Build'. That stuff is gak!.
Been assembling models for over 25 years and my Shadespire models look like they were cut off the sprue with a chainsaw, mold lines removed with an angle grinder and glued together with water-based arts and crafts paste.
Exaggeration aside, they don't look good in summary. I hate assembling that crap and avoid it like the plague.
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Post by: hyperfocal
Skitarii. Good luck if you mix up the torsos and legs before assembly... matching up tops and bottoms after the fact is soooo aggravating.
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Post by: deviantduck
Aggressors. I had carefully cut 6 of them cut off the sprue, sanded and filed down and laid out in 6 bodies. My ol' lady came along and dumped all the pieces into a box. I absolutely didn't assemble them properly. the cables were all kinds of messed up.
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Post by: leopard
Warlord games plastic infantry
where various torso and legs are paired, but not indicated as such, backpacks and equipment match specific torsos, but are not indicated as such and arms are paired, but not indicated as such
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Post by: Punisher23
Vaktathi wrote:DKoK Grenadier hellgun power cables.
Metal Thunderfire Cannons. Absolutely nothing fit right.
Metal Obliterators.
Eldar Vampire flyer (this thing basically wont stay together and has huge gaps).
And a special mention for the Warmachine Khador Behemoth just because. A monumentally poorly designed model.
The behemoth almost killed me. Such a poorly designed, weighty, top heavy model that wont fit together balancing on one stubby leg. Also just assembled some of the old obliterators and those hands are just the worst.
Although if you want frustration, try assembling 12 AoS spirit hosts in one sitting. Each ghost attached by a single small point to another one and you can never get the angles right.
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Post by: Brotherjanus
Nothing worse for me than the old metal chaos marine deamon prince. Hollow torso split in half with rounded edges. Evil doesn't begin to describe it. I gave it to a friend to assemble and he ended up gluing his fingers together trying to pin it.
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Post by: Sterling191
Jidmah wrote:Infantry holding weapons shooting weapons in two hands...
Sweet jeebus on a trampoline this.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Vaktathi wrote:
And a special mention for the Warmachine Khador Behemoth just because. A monumentally poorly designed model.
Whoa, that is... all kinds of special.
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Post by: Hatachi
Addendum from earlier today.
Okay, just put together an aggressor. Accidently put body top 1 on legs 2. (I know, was watching TV while I was modeling.) That worked fine. So when I came back later I put body 2 on legs 1.
OH BOY, about a 5 mm gap on fitting that stupid ammo belt on the arm that hangs low. I had to snip one side and glue them directly together for a direct turn joint to get the stupid thing to hold. It took probably 45 minutes when the first took about 15.
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Post by: Avatar 720
vipoid wrote:It's like their Reanimation Protocols were programmed backwards and so they'll always try to disassemble themselves into their component parts.
I've joked about that ever since I started Necrons with their late 5th ed. codex. It'd open my case after a game night--or half the time even to set up for a game--and be greeted with multiple repair jobs. Plastic glue, super glue, neither of them work particularly well at all, and it doesn't help that you've got loads of torso-leg and arm-shoulder connections that are a combination of a small ball joint and a comparatively cavernous recess to glue it into, so you end up coating the entire ball with glue and hoping you can get enough surface to bond to to hold it in. Then you have Immortal weapons which make them stupidly front-heavy so you need to prop it up while it dries, and Destroyers you need to erect scaffolding around... Even the Annihilation/Catacomb Command Barge is an awkward model to work with.
I've heard horror stories of the Ghost/Doomsday Ark, and Tomb Blades, so any attempts to acquire those in future will be pre-built secondhand first, NOS second.
But yeah, basically, Necrons. Automatically Appended Next Post: toasteroven wrote:Anything that connects to a base solely by a thread of plastic and hope.
Like the old metal Slann Mage Priest on his metal palanquin, attached to a base by a slender plastic flight stem. Or, rather, attamepted to be attached that way until I gave up and built him something solid to sit on out of milliput.
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Post by: Not Online!!!
Valkyrie wrote:
There's nothing wrong with my backpart thank you very much!
Ehhhhhhm well i kinda can't judge that,
Would need first hand experience.
All jokes aside i fething hate it.
I'd rather redo my decimator with his shoulder pads than valkyries!
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Post by: Slayer-Fan123
CthuluIsSpy wrote:The Arks are especially bad.
You can tell they were designed by artists and not by actual hobbyists, because they look nice but are an absolute pain to build.
Yeah, but you get a sense of accomplishment when you've built one or a Triarch Stalker.
You know what sucks to build and you don't get a sense of accomplishment? The fething Tomb Blades. I put off rebuilding my Necron army and started Marines simply because of the frickin Tomb Blades and I remembered how much I hate them.
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Post by: Avatar 720
I keep forgetting I own a Triarch Stalker. Well, most of a Triarch Stalker. It's fallen apart so often and had so many bits disappear I've probably got 90% of it left. In chunks I haven't the motivation to attempt to reassamble. Again.
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Post by: DudleyGrim
Tomb Blades, I managed to do 6 and paint them afterwards, and I just can't finish the last 3! They are so spindly and such a pain to clean!
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Post by: grumpusbumpus
The metal hurricane bolter sponsons on the original Land Raider Crusader kit. I remember those being a pain.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:The Arks are especially bad.
You can tell they were designed by artists and not by actual hobbyists, because they look nice but are an absolute pain to build.
Yeah, but you get a sense of accomplishment when you've built one or a Triarch Stalker.
You know what sucks to build and you don't get a sense of accomplishment? The fething Tomb Blades. I put off rebuilding my Necron army and started Marines simply because of the frickin Tomb Blades and I remembered how much I hate them.
I don't field Triarch models and don't have the desire to do so, so I'll never now.
I do know that I still have an unassembled Doomsday ark in my closet, because its such an arse to deal with I never feel like doing it. One of these days I'll build it, but there are other, less annoying models for me to build.
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Post by: Giantwalkingchair
Penitent engines.
Great looking models but a complete bastard to assemble.
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Post by: Vaktathi
Punisher23 wrote: Vaktathi wrote:DKoK Grenadier hellgun power cables.
Metal Thunderfire Cannons. Absolutely nothing fit right.
Metal Obliterators.
Eldar Vampire flyer (this thing basically wont stay together and has huge gaps).
And a special mention for the Warmachine Khador Behemoth just because. A monumentally poorly designed model.
The behemoth almost killed me. Such a poorly designed, weighty, top heavy model that wont fit together balancing on one stubby leg. Also just assembled some of the old obliterators and those hands are just the worst.
Although if you want frustration, try assembling 12 AoS spirit hosts in one sitting. Each ghost attached by a single small point to another one and you can never get the angles right.
Yeah, the Oblit hands...insane, all the little bits that wont stay on are infuriating. Havent tried my hand at any AoS models yet though.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Vaktathi wrote:
And a special mention for the Warmachine Khador Behemoth just because. A monumentally poorly designed model.
Whoa, that is... all kinds of special.

Yup, all that weight from that big metal model is balanced on that one hip joint, and the only thing connecting that leg to the torso is a tiny numb smaller than a basic Tac marine's neck
Cool model, stuuuuuuupid assembly design.
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Post by: timetowaste85
I put one of my behemoths feet on a fake rock piece. Works perfectly, haven’t had a single issue with it falling apart
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Post by: The Newman
I assembled mine with the raised leg on the ground and the leg that's supposed to be on the ground back in a kicking off sort of position. Had to cut the positioning nubs off IIRC.
The finecast Techmarine was G-d awful. Not just that the pieces are stupid and spindly, but that it's really hard to tell where the sprue ends and the model begins in some places.
The Attack Bike and Land Speeder deserve special mention as well. Not that either was really that hard to assemble (despite the weird dog-leg motion required to get the Speeder's side walls into place) but that neither could be assembled all the way without leaving shoulderpads exposed enough to see but not exposed enough to paint squad/chapter markings on.
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Post by: Llamahead
Hybrid plastic/metal Space Marine Devestator with Lascannon..........
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Post by: r_squared
Skitarii infiltrators.
Fiddly, fragile and a pain in the arse.
In fact not just them, pretty much every skitarii model. The antennae, tendrils and servo skulls are designed to break off.
Infuriating.
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Post by: Luciferian
NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:Anything branded 'Easy Build'. That stuff is gak!.
Been assembling models for over 25 years and my Shadespire models look like they were cut off the sprue with a chainsaw, mold lines removed with an angle grinder and glued together with water-based arts and crafts paste.
Exaggeration aside, they don't look good in summary. I hate assembling that crap and avoid it like the plague.
This is mine as well. The easy to build models pretty much universally have injection points in horrible places and surfaces which you wouldn't normally have to think about, that will need filing or filling on an easy to build model.
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Post by: Oggthrok
The 3rd edition landspeeder was a real bear; you had to clamp and rubber band the entire hull together to get the seemingly always warped upper and lower half together.
It’s not 40k, but the early Age of Sigmar terrain kits were the worst thing I’ve bought from them in modern times. Every angle is “modular” by cutting the kit into four wedges, so if you’re building it stock you need to connect four base pieces to make one 90 degree angle, then mount two walls and two weird dragony detail bits to the base you’ve built. And, it never lines up correctly, ever, leaving huge gaps and then pieces of the corner break off and... oy. I’m glad the newer stuff has been better, but beware when you set down to build an ophidian gate or nominous occulum.
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Post by: G00fySmiley
Mastadon, not from like a hard to build, just a shitton of work, nothing in the kit lined up right, had to do a ton of sanding and filling to make it look good, more than any model and by several magnitudes. .
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Post by: moonsmite
Morkphoiz wrote:Necron tomb sentinel from forge world. 20 tiny resin legs which come in two parts each, 20 secondary legs which are miniscule, 12 body segments which you can position as you please and looooong thin antennas made from resin.
It was a frickin Nightmare to clean and assemble.
The body needed a ton of green stuff and overnight drying to hold the shape, the fiddly legs were far too thin to support the weight of the body reliably so I had to pin the body to the base.
Then i had to position each leg with tweezers in a way that looked "natural" relative to the body position and the position of the other legs.
I hated every second of it but the result is stunning. Awesome looking model.
Edit: Sorry, I dont know why dakka decided to rotate my image
I plain out refuse to build this model from the stories ive heard and seeing the components. Have two second hand, and honestly feel sorry for anyone and everyone who has built this.
compared to anything i built for KOW, 40k models are easy to build. Just know what models to stay away from *cough*Necron tomb sentinel *cough*
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Post by: Galef
Necron Warriors and the Monolith are certainly in need of a new sprue. Their aesthetics hold up just fine, but the placement of where certain bits attach to the sprue is just horrendous.
And new kits, while cool, have far, FAR too many fiddly bits.
Ghost Arks fill me with as much dread as Drop pods
Also, anything Finecast.
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Post by: ServiceGames
Try Skeleton Warriors or Grave Guard. They make those tiny Necron waists seem like child's play...
SG
EDIT: Drop Pods are still the worst model to build in my book. Second would probably be the Magmadroth... it's a beautiful model, but very tricky to assemble.
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Post by: Templarted
Anyone remember the old metal Vindicator? It was probably because of my age at the time but I could never get anything in it to stick.
Other than that I can’t remember anything that is a pain other than finecast.
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Post by: Greywing
r_squared wrote:Skitarii infiltrators.
Fiddly, fragile and a pain in the arse.
In fact not just them, pretty much every skitarii model. The antennae, tendrils and servo skulls are designed to break off.
Infuriating.
Yeah, I'm about 90% finished with my first (almost certainly only) box of Infiltrators. Holy wow, what a chore they've been. And on top of everything mentioned above, some of the sprue design decisions are maddening. Take a look at these fellas. Where do you think those heads connect to the sprue?
If you guessed "precisely top center of their curved domes, between those delicate little antennae and other details; in other words, the very high point of the model and most visible spot when looking down at them on an actual gaming table, rather than, say, at the neck or some other invisible spot," then you are exactly right.
Edit: I put that image in a spoiler; it's pretty big. Sorry!
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Post by: Eldarain
Anything resin which needs 3+ parts glued simultaneously.
The newest plastic stuff that is so spindly that you can snap pieces with any extra stress when removing it from the sprue.
Anything old enough to be both worse plastic to work on and have giant mold lines due to the age and wear on the mold.
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Post by: pancakeonions
Any new GW model.... Christ on a cracker, they make 'em inexplicably ornate, complex and (sometimes) fragile. Building the Necromunda Goliath were ridiculous (One piece... is a CIGAR! It's about a mm wide! Sticking it in the right place on the models face is just absurd...) I gave up when I saw the Esher models. Just didn't build 'em. The game remains unplayed. So frustrating.
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Post by: Excommunicatus
I am a notoriously ham-fisted oaf, FWIW, and I had little to no problems with the Escher.
Seems like I should avoid Necrons, reading through this.
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Post by: barboggo
I hate building all models. I buy pre-built or better yet primed whenever possible. Generally building vehicles is the worst.
But even worse than vehicles are those finecast obliterators with each of those weapons on each arm being a separate piece. I've built 9 already and I'm so glad I will never have to do it again.
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Post by: Dovis
Jidmah wrote:Infantry holding weapons shooting weapons in two hands...
Oh, and the helbrute. Building the torso is really annoying and it always seems to have gaps in it, not to mention the effort needed to magnetize it properly.
And feth the damn power scourge.
So agree on the "Infantry holding weapons shooting weapons in two hands"
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Post by: Peregrine
Malcador tank. In theory it's very easy to build, in practice it's hell. You have to glue on plastic Chimera tracks that wrap around the front of the resin hull and join sculpted-on track detail at both ends. The instruction sheet is about as informative as FW instructions ever are ( IOW, it's a picture of the finished model and a parts list) so you have to guess at what combination and arrangement of 1/2/4-link lengths of track gets the right shape over the wheels. Then, because this is a FW kit, the resin parts shrink some unpredictable amount during casting and the distance to cover is not an exact increment of track links long. So you're either going to have a gap where the plastic meets the resin end, or you're going to have extra track length that hangs down off the wheels. And did I mention that the joint between the resin and plastic track elements is out in the open, with nothing to hide any gaps?
TL;DR:  the Malcador. I've had bad parts on a particular cast, but that tank was the most frustrating design-wise.
(Finecast is  , not models, so it doesn't count towards this topic.)
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Post by: Kelligula
This thread is really killing my excitement for my Christmas plans of buying a bunch of Forge World Guard stuff...
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Post by: Lammia
Exorcist. I love the weight and look of it but the reassembling it got old.
Cannoness was there too, but someone recently suggested using green stuff to hold it together...
Kelligula wrote:This thread is really killing my excitement for my Christmas plans of buying a bunch of Forge World Guard stuff...
Don't let it get you down, read something else! You should have fun with new models if you haven't overdone the same one.
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Post by: ZergSmasher
I've built 2 boxes of Primaris Aggressors, and I don't think I ever want to do them again. They have an unnecessary number of parts. And don't get me started on those ammo belts. Also, the older Land Speeder kit. Why the parts don't line up properly is completely beyond me. At least the newer one with the hull broken down into more pieces is easier.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
ZergSmasher wrote:I've built 2 boxes of Primaris Aggressors, and I don't think I ever want to do them again. They have an unnecessary number of parts. And don't get me started on those ammo belts. Also, the older Land Speeder kit. Why the parts don't line up properly is completely beyond me. At least the newer one with the hull broken down into more pieces is easier.
I'll be honest, I've built Aggressors as well, but I didn't have any issues with the ammo belts. Are you sure you didn't get them mixed up between models?
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Post by: bullyboy
Not going to choose anything metal or resin, too much a of a no-brainer.
One model which should be simple but is a real pain in the ass, the Deathjester.
Secondly, to follow on from an earlier poster, the old plastic land speeder. <shivers> I bought a new one recently and was dreading building it, However, what a turnaround....everything fit perfectly, what a relief.
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Post by: Squiiddish
Worst model, almost anything AdMech. Cawl himself and the Dragoons stand out as horrible offenders. The Dragoons have these incredibly fiddly leg cables that after building 3 of them I don't think I ever got right. Cawl had... the entirety of his everything.
Models I hate building the most though are anything I have to assemble 30+ copies of. I usually don't mind building, but around Tzaangor #43, shoot me.
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Post by: Peregrine
Kelligula wrote:This thread is really killing my excitement for my Christmas plans of buying a bunch of Forge World Guard stuff...
Don't let it get you down too much. Most of the IG stuff is fine. LRBTs are easy, the various flyers are pretty straightforward (if a bit weak rules-wise), even the infantry isn't that bad once you figure out how to build them. The Malcador is mostly an isolated problem, the only IG kit that comes close to it in difficulty is the enclosed Basilisk/Medusa kits and trying to un-warp the thin and precisely-aligned hull pieces. But even that is mostly a matter of time, unlike the Malcador the Basilisk/Medusa parts will fit eventually if you're patient enough with getting them perfectly into shape.
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Post by: Arachnofiend
For a bog standard troop choice Warriors and Immortals are an absolute pain to put together. Nothing fits right. By comparison my Rubric Marines were a dream to put in place.
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Post by: Fhanados
The Necron Monolith is the only model I own that I've completely given up on. There's such a thin point of contact to keep the edges together that a slight misalignment means it won't glue properly, the plastic core support thing doesn't quite reach where it should and the top plate was such a pain to line up properly! Mine fell apart the first time I put it on the table and it was never put back together again....
Obliterators are similarly terrible. All those gun barrels, spikes, chainblades and other bits just fall off and get lost over time. I've taken to using my old 2nd/3rd edition ones - those things are solid as a rock!
I'm not a fan of Rhino chassis models either, somehow I tend to screw them up on a regular basis.
Honourable mention to the Dark Vengeance Hellbrute - I've put 4 of them together now and managed to get massive gaps on them in various places every time. Thank goodness for texture paint, greenstuff and Nurgle!
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Post by: Kelligula
Peregrine wrote: Kelligula wrote:This thread is really killing my excitement for my Christmas plans of buying a bunch of Forge World Guard stuff...
Don't let it get you down too much. Most of the IG stuff is fine. LRBTs are easy, the various flyers are pretty straightforward (if a bit weak rules-wise), even the infantry isn't that bad once you figure out how to build them. The Malcador is mostly an isolated problem, the only IG kit that comes close to it in difficulty is the enclosed Basilisk/Medusa kits and trying to un-warp the thin and precisely-aligned hull pieces. But even that is mostly a matter of time, unlike the Malcador the Basilisk/Medusa parts will fit eventually if you're patient enough with getting them perfectly into shape.
That is a relief since I was looking at getting some flyers like the Thunderbolt or the Avenger.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
Kelligula wrote: Peregrine wrote: Kelligula wrote:This thread is really killing my excitement for my Christmas plans of buying a bunch of Forge World Guard stuff...
Don't let it get you down too much. Most of the IG stuff is fine. LRBTs are easy, the various flyers are pretty straightforward (if a bit weak rules-wise), even the infantry isn't that bad once you figure out how to build them. The Malcador is mostly an isolated problem, the only IG kit that comes close to it in difficulty is the enclosed Basilisk/Medusa kits and trying to un-warp the thin and precisely-aligned hull pieces. But even that is mostly a matter of time, unlike the Malcador the Basilisk/Medusa parts will fit eventually if you're patient enough with getting them perfectly into shape.
That is a relief since I was looking at getting some flyers like the Thunderbolt or the Avenger.
Hot water, a hair dryer and pinning in general are your best tools for large resin models.
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Post by: SkavenLord
I love Tyranid models. They look cool, threatening, and unique from model to model.
I also hate Tyranid models. If a hormagaunt/termagaunt,genestealer foot or leg bends off of the base, it’s aggravating to hold the model so it glues correctly. I feel sorry for the poor souls that have had to repair a Zoanthrope.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
SkavenLord wrote:I love Tyranid models. They look cool, threatening, and unique from model to model.
I also hate Tyranid models. If a hormagaunt/termagaunt,genestealer foot or leg bends off of the base, it’s aggravating to hold the model so it glues correctly. I feel sorry for the poor souls that have had to repair a Zoanthrope.
It was worse when the Zoanthropes were metal.
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Post by: Excommunicatus
Zarakynel was a PITA, too. Even after I took the easy route it still took well over two hours to position the spikes on her leg. Yes, singular. Leg. Over two hours.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
Excommunicatus wrote:Zarakynel was a PITA, too. Even after I took the easy route it still took well over two hours to position the spikes on her leg. Yes, singular. Leg. Over two hours.
My favorite cheat/work around replaced the spikes with small bb's.
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Post by: Excommunicatus
I used cut-down toothpicks, was still horrific.
I think BBs would have been worse for me. Neither my eyesight nor my motor control can be described as 'good'.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
Excommunicatus wrote:I used cut-down toothpicks, was still horrific.
I think BBs would have been worse for me. Neither my eyesight nor my motor control can be described as 'good'.
You just need a dot of super glue and kind of roll them into the holes, but I can sympathize on the fine motor control thing. I still can't paint straight lines to save my life.
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Post by: Phaeron Gukk
Whoever designed the Tomb Blade kit should be fed to the scarabs.
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Post by: Spectral Ceramite
Idk My top pissed off moments
Top :
1. Penitent Engines
2. Drop pods (include Deathstorm)
3. Having to pin and have no drilled holes, for alignment
4. Pinning 30 minotaurs in a row
I have had to hair-dryer many parts to be straight etc (especially all my forge world, like every piece ever, but they have been simple), just these are the biggest pain in the ass I have found.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Spectral Ceramite wrote:
Idk My top pissed off moments
Top :
1. Penitent Engines
2. Drop pods (include Deathstorm)
3. Having to pin and have no drilled holes, for alignment
4. Pinning 30 minotaurs in a row
I have had to hair-dryer many parts to be straight etc (especially all my forge world, like every piece ever, but they have been simple), just these are the biggest pain in the ass I have found.
I do my drill holes now with a nikko on edge of oppoisite piece, but hey, give me drill holes to start with if needs to be pinned
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Post by: Clyde Frog
Skitarii Vanguard and Rangers. I still have a sprue of those, but can`t bring myself to assemble it.
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Post by: Spartacus
Im personally sick of assembling Custodes Dawneagle Jetbikes.
They seem rather drawn out to assemble and difficult to clean up . And then you get to the end and have to glue on the damned spear arm, - holy hell that thing is frustrating, every single one I've had to go in with a knife and putty to get it attached with any semblance of grace.
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Post by: ValentineGames
The baneblade.
Sweet god I hated that gak!
It's bad enough you need a tube of miliput to fill all the joins and gaps. But it doesn't even fit!
Horrific model.
If only TAMIYA did GW tanks.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Clyde Frog wrote:Skitarii Vanguard and Rangers. I still have a sprue of those, but can`t bring myself to assemble it.
Nothing like finishing a squad and finding that you used the wrong legs somewhere and now stuck with a torso and legs that don't fit!
Seriously GW, as much as I like the long coats some interchangability is mandatory, this is game modeling, we're not assembling historically accurate aircraft here...
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Post by: CatGotYourLas
Worst time I've had is Wulfen. Their legs don't even fit together properly, it's dumb.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
Kelligula wrote:
That is a relief since I was looking at getting some flyers like the Thunderbolt or the Avenger.
I don't remember any problems with my Thunderbolt - well, none that weren't self-inflicted (like putting pins in the hinges in the equipment locker doors so I could have them open or closed, or magnetising the undercarriage). The main thing with the aeroplanes is to make sure the wings look balanced.
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Post by: prastie
Necron deathmarks. It's terrible to have to hold them until the torso and arms get fixed in by the glue.
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Post by: Tycho
Anything Mechanicus at this point. Beautiful models, but so many little fiddly bits that my giant sausage fingers always end up breaking something.
That and the metal Thunder Canon.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
I know it's a little mean to knock on older kits buuuuut: The Monolith and the Stompa. Both have large sections with poor to no interlocking that you have to try and hold together while attaching to a baseplate.
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Post by: ServiceGames
Arachnofiend wrote:For a bog standard troop choice Warriors and Immortals are an absolute pain to put together. Nothing fits right. By comparison my Rubric Marines were a dream to put in place.
I know I said this already, but try putting together Skeleton Warriors and/or Grave Guard. They make the Necrons, with their tiny waists and arms, seem like child's play.
SG Automatically Appended Next Post: Fhanados wrote:The Necron Monolith is the only model I own that I've completely given up on. There's such a thin point of contact to keep the edges together that a slight misalignment means it won't glue properly, the plastic core support thing doesn't quite reach where it should and the top plate was such a pain to line up properly! Mine fell apart the first time I put it on the table and it was never put back together again....
I've put a monolith together myself. If I had had rubber bands at the time, I think it would have been an easy model to assemble. But, I didn't. Glue didn't dry quickly enough, pieces got slightly out of place, and now I have noticeable holes that shouldn't be there (if you're looking hard enough for them). The only truly difficult part about the Monolith for me was the top jewel piece. It just does not want to stay in place... even after I glued it and let it set for a day or two.
SG
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Post by: vyse.04
Necrons because of all the cleaning that is necessary across the lineup. Lines everwhere that need to be scraped. Positioning the arms can be a pain too.
I think that's why GW gave them such an easy paint scheme.
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Post by: pewtersplus
Morkphoiz wrote:Necron tomb sentinel from forge world. 20 tiny resin legs which come in two parts each, 20 secondary legs which are miniscule, 12 body segments which you can position as you please and looooong thin antennas made from resin.
It was a frickin Nightmare to clean and assemble.
The body needed a ton of green stuff and overnight drying to hold the shape, the fiddly legs were far too thin to support the weight of the body reliably so I had to pin the body to the base.
Then i had to position each leg with tweezers in a way that looked "natural" relative to the body position and the position of the other legs.
I hated every second of it but the result is stunning. Awesome looking model.
Edit: Sorry, I dont know why dakka decided to rotate my image
You did that thing justice!
Basically I try to avoid resin at all costs, for lack of knowledge on how to deal with it, Im pretty okay with anything pewter/plastic
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Post by: Rogerio134134
Pretty much anything to be honest, really not a fan of assembling the models. The bit I love is the painting, I am a scythes of the emperor player and so every model with a 2 handed weapon needs to be built without its weapon so I can get to the midriff and paint it yellow!
I recently had an absolute nightmare with my hellblasters as I assembled them all armless then painted everything separately. I put the plasma incinerators in my bits tray and could work out which arms went with which guy... Absolute nightmare.
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Post by: Big Mac
Older kits of Leman Russ and Chimera chassis, the track assembly was a nightmare prior to the new kits with alignment tabs.
FW Dark Eldar Tantalus, requires a lot of sanding to fit, the brass deck barely overlaps the hull rims, complete nightmare!
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Post by: leopard
models that have utterly pointless detailing that needs assembling. My Imperial Guard and olde tactical marines generated a huge box of bits I say no point in fitting, ditto my fantasy orcs.
when you have that many who cares if one has a pouch on their belt?
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Post by: HoundsofDemos
leopard wrote:models that have utterly pointless detailing that needs assembling. My Imperial Guard and olde tactical marines generated a huge box of bits I say no point in fitting, ditto my fantasy orcs.
when you have that many who cares if one has a pouch on their belt?
I feel the opposite, all those extra little bits add a ton of character to a model. Assembly is one of my favorite parts of the hobby and deciding who to give an ammo pack or knife to and then fitting it perfectly is a ton of fun.
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Post by: leopard
HoundsofDemos wrote:leopard wrote:models that have utterly pointless detailing that needs assembling. My Imperial Guard and olde tactical marines generated a huge box of bits I say no point in fitting, ditto my fantasy orcs.
when you have that many who cares if one has a pouch on their belt?
I feel the opposite, all those extra little bits add a ton of character to a model. Assembly is one of my favorite parts of the hobby and deciding who to give an ammo pack or knife to and then fitting it perfectly is a ton of fun.
on a small nuber of models I agree... with goblins etc though, perhaps less so
beauty of the hobby though, we are all differnt, hats off to you for having the patience to do it
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Post by: Asherian Command
Spartacus wrote:Im personally sick of assembling Custodes Dawneagle Jetbikes.
They seem rather drawn out to assemble and difficult to clean up . And then you get to the end and have to glue on the damned spear arm, - holy hell that thing is frustrating, every single one I've had to go in with a knife and putty to get it attached with any semblance of grace.
Wait really? I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME BEING A COMPLETE GOOF!
Glad I am not the only one struggling with that!
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Post by: barboggo
leopard wrote:HoundsofDemos wrote:leopard wrote:models that have utterly pointless detailing that needs assembling. My Imperial Guard and olde tactical marines generated a huge box of bits I say no point in fitting, ditto my fantasy orcs.
when you have that many who cares if one has a pouch on their belt?
I feel the opposite, all those extra little bits add a ton of character to a model. Assembly is one of my favorite parts of the hobby and deciding who to give an ammo pack or knife to and then fitting it perfectly is a ton of fun.
on a small nuber of models I agree... with goblins etc though, perhaps less so
beauty of the hobby though, we are all differnt, hats off to you for having the patience to do it
Yes. Assembling any one thing more than 30 times is... ugh kill me. I'm in the middle of 30 plaguebearers right now and I'm uh.... halfway there....
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Post by: HoundsofDemos
Guess it depends on faction. I'm primarily a marine player, with a small host of other imperial factions and a surprisingly large ork collection that I've used once lol. My favorite things to build were SM, closely followed by orks because the sky is the limit. I can see how some armies would get dull because it does come down to the same five or six models over and over.
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Post by: godardc
Van Saar. I think they are my new number 1 hated kit.
However, all the Necromunda kits are horrenduous
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Post by: HoundsofDemos
godardc wrote:Van Saar. I think they are my new number 1 hated kit.
However, all the Necromunda kits are horrenduous
What makes them bad? I'm curious, was thinking of picking up some of the biker ones for a pet project but if there gonna be a pain in the ass, I'll look else where.
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Post by: Ezki
I really hate assembling the Death Korps of Krieg guardsmen. They look amazing, but the process of preparing them to be primed is just a pain.
So many mould lines, bent / snapped lasguns and the fact that it's really hard to find the right hand / torso combination.
First time assembling a squad of these almost made me cry. After two to three hours of swearing I suddenly realized that I could not mix and match any hand with any torso.
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Post by: ERJAK
ccs wrote:"I really hate building these things."
This thought occurred to me tonight as I was assembling SM Drop Pod #3/8 (6 standard, +2 more customized for dreadnought delivery until I can track down a pair of actual FW Lucius Patterns).
Why was I building 8 drop pods? Because my Space Wolves have always been a 100% deep strike/teleport/infiltrate capable force.
Since 2e I've been using the rather crude (and inconvenient to carry around) pods Armorcast produced back in the 90's.
2 weeks ago the packs hit the table for the 1st time since 5th edition. The shop owner (a good friend) was mocking my giant chunks of 2e resin. So I jokingly told him that I'd have him order me a new pod for any squad that earned its pts. Or all of the armies pods (8) in the unlikely event of a victory.
This deal must've sounded great to the troops - for though they took heavy casualties doing it, they completely thrashed a Thousand Sons force.
So I had to have the shop order me enough pods to fully re-equip.
Free time on Fri/Sat was spent clipping/cleaning bits & priming.
Sunday was spent painting.
Monday afternoon/evening was assembly.
Bleh! If I ever decide I need any more SM pods I'll just EBay somebodies cheap cast offs, deal with the added effort to paint the innards, AND save some $....
So what models have you found that you dislike assembling?
The repulsor. The kit itself is tedious but not overly difficult to put together. The thing that makes it my least favorite model to build is because if you make even a small mistake on the first two pages of the instructions, you can just throw the damn thing away. The way it's set up means that even a small error in the early construction will cause the entire chassis to fit wrong and the grav plates not to line up so you end up with an 80$ paperweight.
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Post by: Elbows
Building more wraithguard at the moment, and remembered why I disliked building them the first time. Clean crisp models...BUT...why GW feels the need to put all of the plastic gates on tiny inset pieces or the inside of curves...is beyond me. I dislike needing to assemble 10-15 pieces for a miniature anyway, but the paintstaking cleaning of these is an extra squirt of lemon in my eye.
They look good finished, but if I didn't love Eldar I'd put them aside for something else.
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Post by: Spectral Ceramite
HoundsofDemos wrote:leopard wrote:models that have utterly pointless detailing that needs assembling. My Imperial Guard and olde tactical marines generated a huge box of bits I say no point in fitting, ditto my fantasy orcs.
when you have that many who cares if one has a pouch on their belt?
I feel the opposite, all those extra little bits add a ton of character to a model. Assembly is one of my favorite parts of the hobby and deciding who to give an ammo pack or knife to and then fitting it perfectly is a ton of fun.
Totally agree. I love adding ammo pouches, pouches, grenades, knives, seals etc to my models (I actually buy a lot from bits sites to make sure each model has a good amount because you never get enough in a box set and makes my standard units slightly more individual).
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Post by: cole1114
Spectral Ceramite wrote:HoundsofDemos wrote:leopard wrote:models that have utterly pointless detailing that needs assembling. My Imperial Guard and olde tactical marines generated a huge box of bits I say no point in fitting, ditto my fantasy orcs.
when you have that many who cares if one has a pouch on their belt?
I feel the opposite, all those extra little bits add a ton of character to a model. Assembly is one of my favorite parts of the hobby and deciding who to give an ammo pack or knife to and then fitting it perfectly is a ton of fun.
Totally agree. I love adding ammo pouches, pouches, grenades, knives, seals etc to my models (I actually buy a lot from bits sites to make sure each model has a good amount because you never get enough in a box set and makes my standard units slightly more individual).
I love how they look but they're super frustrating to add. Especially with shaky hands.
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Post by: Spectral Ceramite
godardc wrote:Van Saar. I think they are my new number 1 hated kit.
However, all the Necromunda kits are horrenduous
I have not found Van Saar a pain at all. The only problem I found with them was the upgrade packs from forge world, the weapons/arms are mostly designed for the male models (the arms are to big for the female model) and it was not stated (was a pain found out after gluing it on my female model and had to clip the arm off and clip the weapon and glue on a female plastic arm and then glue the weapon on. Not enough to go into penitent engine falling apart even if pin or deathstorm drop pod alignment territory, but was annoying).
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Post by: Aaranis
Well I've assembled 2000 pts of AdMech and yes, the only things I've found frustrating were the hoses on the legs of the Dragoons (although after the first one you know you just need slim tweezers) and the neck ornament on Fulgurites. That thing was frustrating.
But regular Skitarii ? Just follow the instructions. Yes the coats make a rift between the two pieces but I just use more glue, you can use liquid GS afterwards too. Except the hoses, Dragoons are fine to build. Infiltrators are easy too, the hardest part is when you want to grab them and make them explode because of the antennas I reckon.
Skeletons from AoS/WFB are indeed horrible, especially Grave Guards with two-handed weapons.
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Post by: An Actual Englishman
Though I’m more than accustomed to it now, Ork bikes frustrated me when I first started collecting them.
I still have the scars from cutting the handlebars off and going into thumb or finger.
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Post by: Nightlord1987
An Actual Englishman wrote:Though I’m more than accustomed to it now, Ork bikes frustrated me when I first started collecting them.
I still have the scars from cutting the handlebars off and going into thumb or finger.
Just thought of Ork bikes immediately myself. Got 3 as part of Speedfreeks and I'm turned off from getting anymore.
Finally have the handle bars, arms, and legs secured (after re-gluing the guns to make room for the feet) only to find the damn HEAD doesent fit! I was determined to paint in sub assembly but got annoyed and had to glue the damn things together anyway I could. And those mold lines.
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Post by: An Actual Englishman
Nightlord1987 wrote:Just thought of Ork bikes immediately myself. Got 3 as part of Speedfreeks and I'm turned off from getting anymore.
Finally have the handle bars, arms, and legs secured (after re-gluing the guns to make room for the feet) only to find the damn HEAD doesent fit! I was determined to paint in sub assembly but got annoyed and had to glue the damn things together anyway I could. And those mold lines.
Lol you should have another 3 if you got Speed Freeks
There is definitely a certain order to build them and I swear the instructions are wrong. Don’t worry though they become easier the more you build and they are highly customisable.
The mold lines are absolutely savage.
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Post by: barboggo
I built 7 shadow spectres yesterday. I normally hate building stuff but the spectres were so challenging that it was kind of fun figuring out how to approach it. Probably the most difficult infantry model I've ever built because of all of the ridiculously fragile resin parts, the clean up work, the green stuff, and the complete lack of official instructions or even photos of their rear views. Overall they came together alright and look pretty impressive for the one not-super-old Eldar aspect warrior kit.
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