there are some like the clamp of slaanesh or the shell from Nº13 that it could be from fiend of slaanesh and ambull respectively, but I'm not 100% sure
It's always surprised me that there isn't an official primaris techmarine model yet, so my kitbash idea of using the gunner of the repulsor tank will go on hold for now.
However, a new light vehicle weapon wouldn't be out there either, such as a jet bike or land speeder but primaris.
It's squigdar but not as we know it - this is for finding squigs and might or might not be a squig itself
That said its clearly some kind of radar device so my betting:
1) Terrain piece
2) New Cultist mini
3) Terminator/Scout detector from a new and upcoming release based around attacking drifting hulks of ships in deep space - something like finding genestealers, lictors and more hidden and coming to get you!
Honestly, could this simply be a new version of the Rhino? With a SoB army in the works, maybe GW finally decided to update the frankly ancient Rhino kit?
John Prins wrote: Honestly, could this simply be a new version of the Rhino? With a SoB army in the works, maybe GW finally decided to update the frankly ancient Rhino kit?
Oh you poor, poor NooB! The Rhino came out a mere, erm.....[carry the six[/i].....divide by Badger....17 Years ago.
They've mentioned that recently, in relation to Primaris Marines?
It was in the Dark Imperium novel by Guy Haley. But like the Inceptor carrying low orbit dropship that also has nearly as much screen time in the book, its probably intended to be a background only thing.
Too crude looking. More likely something for Skaven. We’ve gotten multiple Slaaneshi whips, and none have looked like that. The wrapped rags are more a Skaven thing.
John Prins wrote: Honestly, could this simply be a new version of the Rhino? With a SoB army in the works, maybe GW finally decided to update the frankly ancient Rhino kit?
The problem is that there are still a couple of other tanks that are based on the rhino, so they either have to keep producing the rhino sprues or update them all in one go
The wraps make me think skaven which makes me think new packmaster. That would fit considering that the rat ogres/giant rats and packmaster kit is a very old plastic one and the only other pack master on sale is a metal one with a multi-headed whip.
This one is tricky, the braiding is very neat but then there's the bandage wrapping, a bit incongruent. Chaos Mortals maybe? But it's a very big piece, easily believable as a greater daemon weapon.
The whip looks like it will break the first time it's touched.
GW's models are amazing; far better than anything we've had before, but at the same time they're becoming increasingly less practical to near impossible to handle and use in a game.
I'm saying packmaster still - its got the same wrapping around the breakpoint and its got the same multi-whip head. Plus its an older model still in metal and the one sold in the plastic kit is also old- both ripe for an upgrade into a brand new kit.
Definitely looks like a cat-o'-nine-tails. I don't think it's rigging. If it was, you'd think more of it would be taut and aimed in set directions, but the lengths curve gently in a variety of directions. The wrapping also doesn't really speak 'Skaven' to me, because wrapping doesn't have to be elegant on these, it just has to work. The actual braiding is very neat and uniform. If it was Skaven I'd expect more variations, fraying, etc.
So, my guess is some sort of Slaanesh mortal release, or perhaps a future Dark Elf release. Either way, I expect it for Age of Sigmar and not 40k.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Part of the rotating mechanism of a 40k pumpjack, probably known as a Promethium Extracticus or some other such pseudo-Latin name.
Growing up around the oil field, I can confirm that this is almost certainly a pumpjack.
My immediate thought too. It looks like a further Sector Mechanicus add-on. The style matches IMO.
I think the bigger question is whether it is a standalone terrain piece, or faction specific like the fragdrill. I could see it being used by Ad Mech or AM, perhaps giving buffs to vehicles or something, but it is a bit more tangential than mechanic shops and the fragdrill.
The edge highlighting and wash around the rivets suggest it's pretty small. Too small to be the rotating part of an oil pump.
I still think it looks like terrain, but probably a small detail piece rather than a main component.
Jadenim wrote: It feels a bit too steam age for 40k; mechanicum stuff is more 1920’s sci-fi gone mad + skulls. Betting on AoS, Kharadron Overlords?
Not the right motif for KO or AoS, in my opinion.
I'm tentatively speculating that GW is going back and doing some faction specific terrain bits for the early released armies(Marines, GK, CSM, AM, Guard) and potentially even revamping their books as part of Vigilus now that the GSC are done.
Looks like there may be two rumor engines in that picture. If you look closely at the librarian, it appears that he's wearing the same tunic and belt from another rumor engine.
So two confirmed, and one probable- we need to wait to see the Possessed models. At the moment, the number of spines on the claw don't match between RE and artwork, but then it is only artwork.
I think we may see something of a round-up of several of the Chaos-y pics from the last few months.
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Spoiler:
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Possessed maybe? It looks like it's growing into the body, more so than normal. Or maybe the back of an obliterator (though, they don't tend to come from *normal* chaos marines, right?
Why? Almost all DV Chosen have eyes on their plate:
Spoiler:
Most of them even has similar style mouths on armour, the style of backpack makes me think Berserkers, Chosen, or some other unit in Mk IV armour. Any good candidates for it?
To me it screams more previews of stuff in shadowspear or further BL after that, especially as it says 'back tomorrow'. This picture looks like it could be the possesed we see on the cover art which solve the claw rumour that's been going around forever.
Sems to me like they're setting off a hype train, and I'm all aboard. More chaos!
My first thought was a codpiece/loincloth type thing rather than part of a backpack. The parts to the right and left of the "face" would be the thick, musclely, mutated thighs of some (possessed?) Chaos Space Marine.
Another new image. Probably a Possessed's foot. Is it worth adding these to the rumor engine, since they'll most likely be revealed within a few weeks?
Looking at these 'daemon engine' pictures, I'm reminded how much I want a keeper of secrets, noise marines, a few new daemon units and literally nothing else this year. I'm already full up from GSC and gloomspite.
I don't think that is the claw of a Possessed, I think that belongs to a Keeper of Secrets. Also the language used in the article would lead you to believe it is Slaanesh, not a generic Possessed Marine
It's a foregone conclusion that we're getting a new Possessed kit I 'spose. That's fine, I guess. I like Possessed. Just would'a preferred an actual plastic Havok kit for the first time ever.
I do wonder how new Possessed would work in the post CHS-world GW wallows in. Possessed, by their very nature, should be mutable and Chaotic. That's going to be hard to do with near-mono-pose models with 0 options.
It's a foregone conclusion that we're getting a new Possessed kit I 'spose. That's fine, I guess. I like Possessed. Just would'a preferred an actual plastic Havok kit for the first time ever.
I do wonder how new Possessed would work in the post CHS-world GW wallows in. Possessed, by their very nature, should be mutable and Chaotic. That's going to be hard to do with near-mono-pose models with 0 options.
Just because these seem to be heavily teasing possessed doesn’t mean a new havok box won’t be coming later with a full Chaos release. They may leave it at Obliterators but havoks aren’t ruled out just yet.
lord_blackfang wrote: Someday GW will figure out that claws are supposed to be articulated.
I'm sorry to say it looks like the new Possessed will be every bit as campy as the last.
I'll be happy as long as they aren't weird cartoony monsters, like the Wulfen, and look better than the plastic Chaos Forsaken kit. You know a kits bad when it's fairly recent and they still discontinue it (despite the fact that they could have easily been another unit in a Slaves of Darkness army.) The one redeeming factor of the Forsaken kit was the nice variety of heads and models that allowed you to make actual good looking models.
Tiberius501 wrote: Just because these seem to be heavily teasing possessed doesn’t mean a new havok box won’t be coming later with a full Chaos release. They may leave it at Obliterators but havoks aren’t ruled out just yet.
You're absolutely right. My concern was more why we're getting new Possessed first when they have a plastic kit already, but we did this in the other thread.
Galas wrote: Look, heavy weapons... plastic havoks? (TBH if they add a autocannon in the regular CSM squad we won't even need plastic havoks)
You don't even really need plastic havocs now, you can kitbash Mk III or IV plastic squad with one CSM box to get 15 CSM + 5 Havocs (or 10/10 if you want to have some ablative mooks). Really, "lack" of Havocs had been by far the least problems of CSM range for years now, it's just that loud minority can't find anything else for easy GW bash, so they latched to this one. I wonder how many pictures like this one before they suddenly try to find a new attack angle?
I hope that HB is from a Havok kit, even if it’s just to keep HBMC quiet (not sure if everyone knows but they’ve never had a plastic kit, whereas possessed already have )
But seriously, the more that moves away from metal/finecast the Better in my eyes, whether it’s things I want myself or not..
I agree that the long claw looks like the one on the cover of Shadowspear, but I still think the round claw belongs to a Keeper of Secrets. Why else would they use all of the Slaanesh terminology in the clues. You wouldn't do that for a generic Possessed Marine. We know that a Slaanesh release is coming and that is the last greater demon to be made.
StarHunter25 wrote: So how much ya want to bet CSM are going to lose all their infantry autocannons now that loyalists have them?
If you look to the left of the image, to the left of the blurry Primaris, I'm pretty certain that there's a chaos autocannon there. Looks like it has a chain leading to a bayonet that's mostly hidden behind the Primaris but pokes out a little the other side so would be a chaos one.
Of the latest images, is this what we’ve got revealed so far, or have I missed any there?
Just trying to work through what I’ve seen but so much has come out lately..
Automatically Appended Next Post: And also yeah those hanging bullets, don’t seem to be on the pics. Are they currently unsolved?
Probably the HB dude included in the regular CSM kit from Shadow Spear, or is HBMC finally getting his Havocs?
aracersss wrote:that's two rumor engines down
... plus was this ever included with the rest in the compiled img?
Irbis wrote:
Spoiler:
Sooo... No one mentioned yet how chaos apparently stole/always had Onslaught Gatling Cannons? So much for them being new weapon
Danny76 wrote:And also yeah those hanging bullets, don’t seem to be on the pics. Are they currently unsolved?
Yup.
The hanging bullets seem to match the drawings from the heavy bolter to me, just would be farther down the chain. I think that’s sort of solved. except the chain of bullets is two rows, so new plastic chaos dreadnought with twin heavy bolters
I scrolled down too far, so I saw only the legs of the Gal Vorbak, and thought they had finally revealed the Possessed kit. Sadness covers me like a blanket. :/
it's possiable we are getting a havok kit. as this feels to me like it's effectively a "undivided mass release" so it's possiable we'll see CSMs, Havoks, posssed and a obliterator/Mutilator kid.
Not to mention some HQ options. There are a couple Chaos themed rumor engines from a while back, the most important being the redesigned Sorcerer "dragon faced" backpack
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But seriously, I can't think of a unit that would use a chainglaive. Maybe another character or something? Unless it's an entire elite unit that has them.
I could see the glaive being a Terminator option, perhaps even for an Exalted champion or something in a similar vein to the DA Terminator champion with halberd.
Nah. I don't think it's an upgrade sprue for an Imperial Knight.
However, it does make me think of a tantalising possibility of a new, dedicated Chaos Super Heavy that isn't mono-god....
In terms of scale, there's a clear handle and trigger mechanism. So could be something that's ridden into battle, and this is a pintel mounted zapper of some kind? Roughly lascannon sized judging by the handle and trigger bit.
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hmm Deathguard got a big new vehicle with the plagueburst mortar, I wonder if this is a new one for generic CSM, and armed with that baleflamer from the last post
Luke_Prowler wrote: The daemon itself is easily one of the best things about this, and it's another reason why I like the community site.
I think it's a little bit too big a normal terminator back, though. I'm thinking a terrain piece.
As part of the massive process to make terminators great again, they need to get larger, and considerable. They should be the size of centurions/aggressors at least.
I've always wondered with most of the newer models being CAD designed, could some of the more recently released terminator units (loyalist maybe) just be increased design wise at the touch of a button? Yeah, the sprues would need to become bigger, and then the boxes but in my simplistic head, it surely isn't that hard to do that?
disclaimer: I have absolutely no idea/clue about manufacturing, and definitely not intricate toy soldiers so I could be very wrong.
TBH the best thing about the Daemon Engine takeover is the feature has finally started posting actual, vaguely-identifiable teasers for once instead of macro-closeups of base details and belt buckles
I really like it. Chaos has a lot of organic mixed with tech, so it makes sense to me that it’s rounded and more organic. I quite like the crabby finger plating
Defo a termie power fist. The elbow "button" and the square notch sticking out from the pad match up with other terminator arms.
Hopefully they keep the horns, learing faces melded into armour and other assorted "chaos" gak off these new models. It's the one thing that really bought down the Dark Vengeance chaos marines for me. Great sculpts, but I don't want to have to carve a face off a leg and then resculpt a knee pad just to have regular looking armour. If the recent BSF chaos marines are any indication though, they may end up being pretty clean for the most part.
It is an aesthetic that would actually work for possessed I guess though I guess.
Candles suggest something roughly infantry sized, going on how GW normally does candles.
I’d say it’s definitely shoulder mounted, but whether that’s then mounted on something else is basically a flight of fancy on my behalf. Just can’t see something so grandisose foot slogging it?
With all the "daemon faced" forge constructs in the video, I was wondering if we'd get a daemon forge or some sort of terrain. If it's not too technological, it may look cool in AOS as well
Well, if that isn’t a tease at the new World Eaters, then I have no idea what it could be. That one seems pretty cut and dried. Either World Eater Axe or Angron Axe. Damn. Hoped Fulgrim would be first.
timetowaste85 wrote: Well, if that isn’t a tease at the new World Eaters, then I have no idea what it could be. That one seems pretty cut and dried. Either World Eater Axe or Angron Axe. Damn. Hoped Fulgrim would be first.
Daemon Angron fights with a sword. He ditched Gorefather and Gorechild when he ascended.
timetowaste85 wrote: Well, if that isn’t a tease at the new World Eaters, then I have no idea what it could be. That one seems pretty cut and dried. Either World Eater Axe or Angron Axe. Damn. Hoped Fulgrim would be first.
Chain axes aren’t World Eater exclusive. Hell, one of the few new CSMs we’ve seen in full has one.
timetowaste85 wrote: Well, if that isn’t a tease at the new World Eaters, then I have no idea what it could be. That one seems pretty cut and dried. Either World Eater Axe or Angron Axe. Damn. Hoped Fulgrim would be first.
Chain axes aren’t World Eater exclusive. Hell, one of the few new CSMs we’ve seen in full has one.
timetowaste85 wrote: Well, if that isn’t a tease at the new World Eaters, then I have no idea what it could be. That one seems pretty cut and dried. Either World Eater Axe or Angron Axe.
How?
First, it looks nothing like Gorechild (both were supposed to be nearly identical), second, it's dedicated to chaos in general, not corn flakes, third, if you look at the skull, there is no way it's something primarch sized, unless giants somehow migrated to 40K. It's clearly CSM weapon, and not World Eater one either...
ooh I like the look of that big burning mace thing that dude's holding!
...I have a bit of a thing for big hefty 2-hander melee weapons though :tongue:
neither of the axes in that pic are really close enough to be a match for the preview chainaxe IMO...but it does feel like the right place for it, as like, one of the options for a melee-build CSM squad or something.
this new one, I'm thinking that might go with the one that looks like some sort of terrain piece...it's hanging from something, but looks too big to be hanging from anywhere on an infantry model.
drazz wrote: Far left looks like an axe, but without a chain
You can see teeth on the bottom, though, and it has usual chainaxe shape. Compare to power axe on the right, completely different.
But I am fairly sure it does not have a skull around the backspike, and has more than one backspike/rear blade. It doesn't match the Daemon Engine chainaxe with the skull.
Honestly, I think it looks more like a power axe with a serrated beard than a chainaxe- the teeth are only on the lower blade, most of the blade is smooth, and there isn't any sign of the chain motor in that image. There could be a blade over the teeth like in the previewed glaive, but the blade would cover more teeth than were ecposed! As all the modern GW Chaos power axes are different, I don't think it matters that the one on the right of the image is different in design.
Single barrelled. Clearly an Auto Cannon. I'm going to out on a limb, and pass HBMC the tissues, as it's looking like Plastic Havocs are indeed a-comin'.
I'm willing to bet it's an autocannon for the new chaos SM kit. In this image from the original reveal trailer, you can just make out a similar looking weapon behind the blurry Primaris dude to the left.
At first I thought that was the same weapon, but it is missing the reinforcing strut below the lower tube, and looks noticeably longer. The lower tube does look narrower than the barrel, like in the DE autocannon, so I don't think it is a Reaper autocannon.
Hmmm. Doesn't that suggest more than one autocannon design? Which would point to Havocs over just CSM to me.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Single barrelled. Clearly an Auto Cannon. I'm going to out on a limb, and pass HBMC the tissues, as it's looking like Plastic Havocs are indeed a-comin'.
Nonsense. That's clearly a Squig. (/original jokes)
Tiberius501 wrote: I'm willing to bet it's an autocannon for the new chaos SM kit. In this image from the original reveal trailer, you can just make out a similar looking weapon behind the blurry Primaris dude to the left.
Yeah, wouldn't surprise me at all if that's the same thing. It's an CSM Autocannon.
Whether that's just on the CSM sprue is another question.
I still hold it is three weapons previewed, because the autocannon on the DE pic does not match the one in the video screenshot. They are similar, but different.
Outside chance? Redesigned Defiler (it needs it if you ask me)
I think its worth noting that over on facebook people were asking GW why they were showing us a teaser preview of the Venomcrawler... GW's response what that it wasn't and that they won't typically continue showing bits of a kit once the model has been revealed. It remains to be seen how dual kits fit into that policy... but setting that aside its something new. That has me excited. I need more daemon engines.
Okay, am I crazy or is his backpack a rumor engine? I went back and didn't see anything that looked like it, but I really want to say the lower part of his backpack matched an older rumor engine.
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