Hey! So I decided that with all the new chaos stuff coming out, it was a great time to build a completely obsolete army with OOP models. Nobody ever accused me of being too smart....



So it all started with my buddy L. Parker Gibson finding the old chaos marine squads in a random hobby shop for $20, and I went a little crazy from there. 90% of the army is NIB, and I felt really bad about these old models having never been assembled, let alone played in a game!

Now, for big projects like these, you need the right supplies. And that means Diet Dr. Pepper. Can't be finished without it!



So the lore behind the army is that after the heresy they got caught by Trazyn the Infinite and held in stasis for 10,000 years. They just happened to break out when the Cicatrix Maldictum (or whatever it's called) tore through the galaxy. So now they are out and about in a very different universe, and they don't like what they see...






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Kids these days will never know the joy of finding the metal tags all over the place...



... and no matter how hard you look, there is always one left over somewhere.



First squad is complete!

What fun! And what a great find. Have a blast with all that old-time goodness. Hazard stripes everywhere?

Old school may be the best school - I think there's a Retrohammer thread over in Dakka Discussions you might want to post in

 youwashock wrote:
What fun! And what a great find. Have a blast with all that old-time goodness. Hazard stripes everywhere?

Oh yeah, gotta have the hazard stripes!



A few more friends.


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 Dysartes wrote:
Old school may be the best school - I think there's a Retrohammer thread over in Dakka Discussions you might want to post in

Headed over there now, thanks!


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Converted an old Chaos Squat in Exo armor to be my warpsmith. Chopped up a techmarine and a weapon sprue, but I think he turned out pretty good.



Alternate angle.



I forgot how much of a pain in the butt the old metal vehicles were to put together!



Here's the progress so far today. Got a few dreadnoughts, a predator, chaos lord, 5 Terminators, warpsmith, sorcerer, and a bunch of chaos marines.

Probably keep at it for a bit more, and I'll almost be able to start painting!

Not much of an update, but I got the whole army assembled and based! Ready for paint as soon as it gets above freezing.



And the legions of chaos androids who will be my cultists.


Here's the list just in case anyone is interested. I haven't pointed it out fully but I think it's just north of 2,000 points. Probably not the most effective army, but I wanted to showcase as many 2nd ed. models as I could. I'm going to channel my inner Nigel Stillman and cherish the once in a million win!

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armor w/ Combi Melta & Power Maul

Chaos Sorcerer w/ Force Sword

Chaos Squat Warpsmith

Chaos Marine Squad x 5 w/ Champion with Powerfist, Flamer

Rhino w/ Combi-bolter

Chaos Marine Squad x 5 w/ Champion with Powerfist, Flamer

Rhino w/ Combi-bolter

Chaos Marine Squad x 10 w/ Champion with Chainsword, Icon, 2 X Missile Launcher

10 Chaos Terminators w/ 2 Combi-flamers, 2 Combi-meltas, 4 combi-bolters, 2 reaper autocannons, 2 power fists, 2 chainfists, 2 power mauls, 4 power axes

Helbrute w/ Twin Heavy Bolters and Power Scourge

Helbrute w/ Plasma Cannon and Power Claw

5 Havocs w/ 2 X Lascannon, 2 X Heavy Bolter

Vindicator

Predator w/ Twin Lascannon, 2 X Lascannon

Chaos Cultists (Androids) X 40

You aren't kidding around with the old school. 40(!) androids. Heck of a sight.

 youwashock wrote:
You aren't kidding around with the old school. 40(!) androids. Heck of a sight.

Hah, yeah I thought it made more sense for them to have robotic minions. Plus, it fits perfectly with the Chaos Squat fluff!

This is fantastic, I'm looking forward to seeing this progress.

Gloriously insane.

--B.

Wow, I'd never seen a chaos android before, let alone a legion of them. Neat stuff, especially that dwarf or whatever he is.

This is truly amazing on so many different levels!

Dang that is a lot of tiny old metal guys. I love them! Keep it up

It's never a bad time to go all out Oldschool. I salute you.

Bravo! My aged heart feels your love!

Excited for this! I remember seeing these as a child

Interese to see how it turns out, I dig the project

It is a pleasure to watch, but even single memory of pain assembling chaos dreadnought (god, I had to replace it couple times before my local store provided non-curved enough to even try to assemble it) is so excruciating that i’d rather watch it from distance. Predator wasn’t pleasurable experience as well.
But even more that Dreadnought I hated old chaos spawn with lots of metal tentacles. I was 12 back then, and my life hadn’t prepared me for such horrors. Metal glue wasn’t even closely enough to get this thing together.

Still have old terminators, though... also aspiring champion and several squads of daemons from the old age. Metal furies, letters and plaguebearers aren’t that old, but I rarely see other players bring them on table nowadays.

Today I managed to get them all primed, I feel like my index finger is going to fall off! But that's because the flesh is weak!

Finally starting to look like they might be an actual army...


I'm glad everyone is enjoying the throwbacks, they are just as frustrating to put together today as they were back in the day. It was a strangely satisfying experience though!

Hopefully I'll be able to update more frequently now that I don't have to worry about the weather.

Lovely 2nd Ed goodness!

Good luck with all of those stripes.

Hope you don't mind if offer some advice - please forgive me if you don't need or want it; start with black, then work up with grey to white, then wash with yellow. Working with the black and white lets you fix your errors, and add some depth to the white. When everything is good, wash yellow. A glaze over the top can be good too.

 Fifty wrote:
Lovely 2nd Ed goodness!

Good luck with all of those stripes.

Hope you don't mind if offer some advice - please forgive me if you don't need or want it; start with black, then work up with grey to white, then wash with yellow. Working with the black and white lets you fix your errors, and add some depth to the white. When everything is good, wash yellow. A glaze over the top can be good too.

Hey thanks! I'll take all the help I can get, lol! I've actually never attempted hazard stripes before, so I'll certainly give your technique a try.

Managed to get a few test models done for the army, pretty happy with how they turned out. Hazard stripes are... not fun.



I always like throwing models on some terrain to see how they look as well.


Only 76 more infantry to go!

Goblin Green bases!

excellent stuff, the older models certainly do have some charm on them. I always toy with the idea of painting up all my RT/2nd ed Orks even though i stopped playing 40k ages ago!

You went full 2ed with the sweet sweet Goblin Green flocked bases

MrFlutterPie wrote:You went full 2ed with the sweet sweet Goblin Green flocked bases

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Goblin Green bases!

Well if you're gonna go retro, do it right!

cerealkiller195 wrote:excellent stuff, the older models certainly do have some charm on them. I always toy with the idea of painting up all my RT/2nd ed Orks even though i stopped playing 40k ages ago!

You should! That'd be a fun time I bet

This project delivers, big time.

Got a few more models finished, they're starting to look like Iron Warriors now!









Hazard stripes are a terrible invention!

Maybe, but they look great and really sell the whole look. That Dread is marvelously retro, and you have done an amazing job breathing life (ironically) into those old androids.

Retro wonderfulness!

You’ve captured the era perfectly. From the hazard stripes to the goblin green.

I’m sure there are better guides out there, but I used painter’s tape for my one foray into stripes. Cut one long strip the right width, and then alternated placing and then placing and removing them so I used the tape as a spacer to make sure all the stripes were parallel and uniform. I know you can get thin rolls of tape for smaller then tank applications. Or just cut your own with a ruler and a hobby knife.


But who am I to tell and Iron Warrior how to hazard stripe!

Iron within, Iron without!

Wow, suddenly I'm 12 again! Brillaint job capturing the style from earlier days.

Everything is looking good so far, MegaDave.

What's next on the to-do list?

What a project! While I've got a fair few of these old grouchy metal dudes (quietly rotting unpainted in boxes - some rediscovered last week even!) I've certainly never seen so many Chaos Androids in one place

Painted lads look great too! Your momentum is real, keep it up dude

Well thanks for all the kind words, everyone!

 Dysartes wrote:

What's next on the to-do list?

I think I'm going to paint up the Chaos Squat next, and another 5 androids. I dread having to get through all 40 of them but if I do a few at a time with another unit I think I can keep myself from going crazy.

Managed to get a few more models done, went HQ's this time.



I've always had a soft spot for the old sorcerer, but I am really loving the chaos squat warpsmith now that he's painted up.





Havocs are next!

That's a very angry egg, MegaDave

And a couple of those old Sorcerer sculpts still hold up today.

Looking real good!

For the Chaos Androids, maybe 1k Sons or Plague Marines would be a better use than Cultists? Catch their reliance.

 Dysartes wrote:
That's a very angry egg, MegaDave

And a couple of those old Sorcerer sculpts still hold up today.

Ya know, if I had thought about that ahead of time I should have painted him up as a Kinder egg!

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Looking real good!

For the Chaos Androids, maybe 1k Sons or Plague Marines would be a better use than Cultists? Catch their reliance.

I was going the cultist route simply because of the base size, and for fluff reasons. Were androids really tough back in the day?

Basically these Iron Warriors need disposable troops, and the only materials they have to make them out of are aluminum.

Plus, they are plastic, so they are obviously not as strong as the metal models in the army. Pewter within, pewter without!

Thank you so much for doing this! It's really taking me back!

And that Chaos Squat Warpsmith just kills it. Best. Ever.

 MegaDave wrote:
Pewter within, pewter without!

Just a game thing on the cultists, the updated codex capped them at 30, if that's a thing that matters to you. Can obviously still plow through all 40 and have a little 10 man filler for troop tax or something, but figured I'd point it out in case you were just doing 40 to max out.

Magnificent. Classic sorceror and the power egg are sweet!

OMG the egg. ANGRY LITTLE EGG.

Looks great! Especially love the old goblin green and flock bases! Takes me back!

I love this thread! A very nice project indeed! Thank you very much for the nostalgia, reminds me of the glorious days of the White Dwarf!

This is great! Unabashedly great! These are the pictures that got me into the hobby, the kind of things you'd see in your local store. Keep going, never stop. Iro- Pewter Within, Pewter Without!

exellent work! love it! the reen bases are just the icing on the cake.

Im jelous of your find

Chiming in to say great work on these guys- those hazard stripes in particular look great. I remember seeing an Iron Warriors army in White Dwarf sometime in the 3rd Ed era, and you've captured that look and feel perfectly.

Should've mounted the Dreads on 40mm squares to be REALLY Old Skool.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Should've mounted the Dreads on 40mm squares to be REALLY Old Skool.

Haha! This! You've got to!

I'd actually supply you with some additional OOP stuff for cheap, but the package overseas will cost more than anything you source localy.

It's a triumph! A magical time machine of an army!

I am giving one more line of praise for the glory of EGG

Managed to finish the Havocs, although I am sorta bummed they are now going to 40mm bases... Oh well!

Glad everyone is enjoying the angry egg, it's going to be hard not to call him that during games lol



Chain cannons? We don't need no stinking chain cannons!



Oh, and as much as I love the idea of the square bases on the dreads, not happening! The though of un pinning them and scraping off all that super glue makes me shiver!

Going over to a buddies to paint, so might have another update later. We'll see how much more I can get done today.

 MegaDave wrote:
Managed to finish the Havocs, although I am sorta bummed they are now going to 40mm bases... Oh well!

Glad everyone is enjoying the angry egg, it's going to be hard not to call him that during games lol



Chain cannons? We don't need no stinking chain cannons!



Oh, and as much as I love the idea of the square bases on the dreads, not happening! The though of un pinning them and scraping off all that super glue makes me shiver!

Going over to a buddies to paint, so might have another update later. We'll see how much more I can get done today.

We veterans of the long war all know the humble autocannon > everything else.

God such nostalgia here.
I always loved the old dread.

Still love the 2nd Ed Heavy Bolters.

Yeah. That HB gunner is one of my favorite Chaos minis ever. Nice squad!

Yup the heavy bolters are fun models, had to have some!

So here is the WIP rhino, what do we think about the hazard stripes? I think they turned out pretty good, trying to figure out if the other rhino's stripes should go the same direction or opposite.

They look very good. I vote for the same direction.

Those 2nd edition Havoks were the gems of the line, great job on them!

Painting night was a success, got a rhino finished!



I think I might have to spring for a decal on the side doors after everything else gets painted. Other than that though I like how it turned out. I feel like I've got some momentum!

Beautiful hazards, and good progress all over

Looking sharp! I vote same way. Let's see some soulless uniformity.

I have a collection of that-era Chaos decals, do you need any?

 Briancj wrote:
I have a collection of that-era Chaos decals, do you need any?

You know, i think i have enough atm, but i will certainly let you know if i end up needing any!

Got my Chaos Lord finished, he is ready to despoil the galaxy!



RAWR!

These look Megadave! Some real classic baddies, with rather neat hazard stripes. They always struck me as the work of Chaos, which you’ve doubly confirmed.

I’d never seen the Chaos squat egg before, he looks really cool. A nice bit of conversion work with the weapon tentacles too.

Keep the goblin green bases coming!

These are absolutely glorious. Loving all of it - bases, stripes, clunky old minis that for some reason don't annoy me half as much as clunky new minis. Bring on the next wave!

The Chaos terminators had some great weapon sculpts. He looks awesome!

Managed to get the other rhino completed, and I even remembered to make the hazards go the same way.

Thanks for all the kind words!

Nice group shot, MegaDave - though I cannae help but feel you're a little heavy on characters and vehicles, and a little light on troops

How's your Predator bitz support? I'm pretty sure I've got some 2nd/3rd ed Chaos vehicle stuff somewhere, if you're looking.

Oh, and we've got a pile of Chaos Terminators about to go on the (ch/sh)opping block.

--B.

Managed to get the other dreadnought finished, he and his brother are ready to go on an insane rampage!



Another army shot...

Dysartes wrote:Nice group shot, MegaDave - though I cannae help but feel you're a little heavy on characters and vehicles, and a little light on troops

Fear not Dysartes! You are absolutely correct, I have been avoiding the little dudes, lol. But no more! Batch painting of 35 more androids begins with the appropriate tools for the job!

Briancj wrote:How's your Predator bitz support? I'm pretty sure I've got some 2nd/3rd ed Chaos vehicle stuff somewhere, if you're looking.

Oh, and we've got a pile of Chaos Terminators about to go on the (ch/sh)opping block.

--B.

Thanks, I will keep it in mind! I think I will be over painting things leadbelcher for a while, but I might end up doing another legion later on...

Yup. That's going to increase the troop count a bit. Love the latest Dread.

That Dread looks brutal.

JB wrote:That Dread looks brutal.

Brutal but cunning? Or cunning but brutal?

youwashock wrote:Yup. That's going to increase the troop count a bit. Love the latest Dread.

Thanks man, you've been cheering me on since the beginning!

So, how depleted was the bottle by the end of the mammoth batch? Did the Hazard stripes get easier or just wonky!?!?

Very nice looking iron

Hah, well it didn't go too far down, still had to paint inside the lines. Usually 2 bourbons is about my limit while painting.

gobert wrote:So, how depleted was the bottle by the end of the mammoth batch? Did the Hazard stripes get easier or just wonky!?!?

This is where they are now. They've been dry brushed, shaded, and the bases have been painted, shaded and dry brushed. It gets real depressing painting the bases for the 3rd time in a row!

JamesY wrote:Very nice looking iron

Thanks!

Painting those bases goblin green, shading them goblin green and dry brushing with goblin green is a real buzzkill.

Jokes; your bases are the vintage bomb!

Yes, but is he using ACTUAL sawdust, like we did back then?

--Brian

So this picture looks a lot like the last two, but it's different, I swear! Just got through painting all of the guns black, that was probably the longest stage to do. Next up are some easy details...



And I didn't use sawdust btw, that was even before my time! I did, however, refrain from using Citadel Finesand and stuck with good 'ol cheapo play sand.

NO SAWDUST??!?



Also, I love how these evolved from "Chaos Androids" to "Necrons".

No saw dust! What heresy is this!?!? Oh, right, it’s Iron Warriors Heresy!
Good work keeping going on that horde of iron!

The 40 chaos androids are finished, woohoo! What a slog, they seemed to never end.



Here we have the chaos squat Warpsmith leading his creations to battle.



I probably need to go back and make a unit leader for them at some point, probably just change the paint on an android head or something. Anyone got any good ideas?

Incredibly cool. Maybe make the leader a gold or bronze color like the old Cylons.

Great work slogging through the mass of androids! I second the use of Gold/Bronze a la Cylons, plus it works with the secondary metallics on the rest of your iron warriors!

youwashock wrote:Incredibly cool. Maybe make the leader a gold or bronze color like the old Cylons.

gobert wrote:Great work slogging through the mass of androids! I second the use of Gold/Bronze a la Cylons, plus it works with the secondary metallics on the rest of your iron warriors!

See, this is why I need you guys! The obvious answer was staring me in the face and I didn't see it, typical Dave.

What a horde of cold, unfeeling oldhammer androids. Well slogged

Life caught up to me for a month so it's been slow going, but I managed to get another squad finished!



I added a little bit of blood for the blood god onto the banner after I took the picture, needed some bleeding eyes.



So after this, I have 10 terminators, 5 more marines, and 2 tanks to go.

GO GO GO!

Looking real good. Love those top-loading bazooka launchers.

I forgot how epic that banner was if done propperly. And this one is certainly done propperly.

Superb old-skool Iron Warriors, lovely and clean armour, lush green bases... :'-) Well done!

Well, I managed to get the predator and vindicator completed!







Might have gone a little heavy with the mud on the plows but I am pretty happy with how they turned out.

Only 5 marines and 10 termies to go and the project will be complete!

The IW scheme really makes those old-school vehicles look their best.

Great job!

Each one would look good on its own, but all together they are just plain awesome. The heavier panels on the Vindicator are so perfect for that sweet hazard striping.

Awesome work!
I'm a huge fan of these throw-back projects.

Just hit exalt (apparently again!) I'm not surprised I already exalted this thread.

Seriously though every time I see these I'm just a happy guy. You're making the world better with these classic clean minis in a real and meaningful way.

Briancj wrote:The IW scheme really makes those old-school vehicles look their best.

Great job!

Thank you! I have been pleasantly surprised with them.

youwashock wrote:Each one would look good on its own, but all together they are just plain awesome. The heavier panels on the Vindicator are so perfect for that sweet hazard striping.

Thanks dude! Glad I took the suggestion to make the hazards all go the same way.

smurfmaster wrote:Awesome work!
I'm a huge fan of these throw-back projects.

I didn't think I'd have this much fun with it, but now i am thinking of eventually doing another old skool project.

theCrowe wrote:Just hit exalt (apparently again!) I'm not surprised I already exalted this thread.

Seriously though every time I see these I'm just a happy guy. You're making the world better with these classic clean minis in a real and meaningful way.

That's nice of you to say, glad you are enjoying the project!

This is some excellent old school stuff going on here. I actually like the look of the dirty bulldozer blades. I think it looks quite good. I think the only reason the dirt may look heavy is because the rest of the tank is so clean. Might need to get those guys a little dirty as well!

You have some really great stuff here. Keep it up.

-Rids

Finished the last 5 chaos marines! I am so happy to be finished with the basic infantry.



Here's an army shot, haven't done one in a while. Really pleased with how it shaped up so far.



And here they are, the last 10 models to complete the army. This has been a fun project, but I will be very satisfied once it is over.



Wish me luck!

Sad times, where are we going to get our goblin green fix now? Seriously though, that’s one awesome looking army! The terminators should round it off nicely. Now to find your other plogs

Terminators are finished! Wow, what a squad to work through.



All that remains are the decals, have to wait on a few more to come in the mail. Once those are done I can finally get them on the battlefield.



See ya in a few weeks once I get the final touches on them

Gorgeous.

I concur. Makes me want to flip through the 2nd Ed Codex. Stellar work.

Sweet Terminators, my brother was obsessed with these back in the day! He’d be well jealous! The red on their power weapons is really nice, what colours did you use?

Briancj wrote:Gorgeous.

Thanks!

youwashock wrote:I concur. Makes me want to flip through the 2nd Ed Codex. Stellar work.

Appreciate it, I've actually thought about getting a copy of the 2nd Ed Codex to display with them.

gobert wrote:Sweet Terminators, my brother was obsessed with these back in the day! He’d be well jealous! The red on their power weapons is really nice, what colours did you use?

Thanks, I quite like how the turned out as well. I used Khorne Red as a base, carroburg crimson shade, mephiston red highlights, and then a drybrush of Jokaero Orange and another drybrush of Averland Sunset.

Really impressive - and Goblin Green FTW!

 MegaDave wrote:


Thanks, I quite like how the turned out as well. I used Khorne Red as a base, carroburg crimson shade, mephiston red highlights, and then a drybrush of Jokaero Orange and another drybrush of Averland Sunset.

Cheers! I might have to steel that

The Iron Warriors are complete! It's been a fun six months, but I am happy to be done!

First up is the full army shot!



Everybody got the original decals, not bad for being 20 years old! (I had some real problems with these, some of the decals were breaking apart from old age!)



Action shot of a predator with an infantry escort.



The Chaos Lord leads his terminator bodyguard and some deranged dreadnoughts into a breach in the enemies lines.



Heavy guns blast the enemy apart.



A sorcerer accompanies some infantry in an assault.



And the angry egg (aka Chaos Squat Warpsmith) leading his Chaos Androids into battle.



Thanks for all the kind words throughout the project, it really helped keep me motivated!

Soooooo awesome. Pewter within, pewter without. Mostly, anyway. Top shelf project. Those army pics are the perfect victory lap.

Closing shot with the Angry Egg and his RT legions is perfect closer

Awesome project, props on pushing through all that hazard striped, goblin green based nostalgia. Here's hoping they get to ransack the table soon.

Great finish to a real nostalgia trip! Looking forward to seeing what’s next!

youwashock wrote:Soooooo awesome. Pewter within, pewter without. Mostly, anyway. Top shelf project. Those army pics are the perfect victory lap.

Thank you! I had fun getting some action shots, can't wait to get some real ones!

Boss Salvage wrote:Closing shot with the Angry Egg and his RT legions is perfect closer

Awesome project, props on pushing through all that hazard striped, goblin green based nostalgia. Here's hoping they get to ransack the table soon.

Thanks, I definitely had times I wasn't in the mood to paint, but it was worth pushing through.

gobert wrote:Great finish to a real nostalgia trip! Looking forward to seeing what’s next!

Yeah I have to figure that out myself! I am thinking maybe some 2nd ed inspired terrain...

Well done on finishing the project! I recently finished my own year+ project, and it feels really rewarding, huh?

They have a really strong group look, and the metal looks great close-up too.

Love that you went for early 90s bases!

 Fifty wrote:
Well done on finishing the project! I recently finished my own year+ project, and it feels really rewarding, huh?

You know, it really does! I'm mostly just happy that I can now paint something other than leadbelcher and retributor gold lol! (My wife is also very happy to get her kitchen table back.)

Wonderful work MegaDaveMade.

Exalted.

Cheers,

CB