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Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 15:43:21


Post by: Gallahad


Hey guys, I stumbled across this company and I think some of you would be interested in their releases. I've spoilered the large images in case you are on mobile.
First up sci-fi German paratroopers:
https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/featured/products/raumjager-infantry-box-set?variant=20081465917538
Spoiler:




Next up fantasy Greek Skeletons:
https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/featured/products/skeleton-infantry?variant=20081470963810
Spoiler:




They say they are available now!
It looks like they have plans to release more HIPS kits in the near future (historical Persians I believe). I've certainly got the Raumjagers on my shopping list.

I'm excited to see what they do with historical and fantasy releases. More HIPS kits are always welcome in my book!

Sorry for the massive pictures, I'm on mobile and not sure how to make them smaller.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 15:59:14


Post by: beast_gts


In the UK North Star are stocking them. I'm tempted, but want to actually see them first.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 16:04:13


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Every time I swear I'm not got to buy any more Space Germans...

Are these available through normal distribution channels in the Us?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 16:12:03


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Kinda cool in a generic grunt style. I'll be keeping an eye out for these. Seems like good conversion basis.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 16:20:42


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


They look like a great GW-without-GW IG unit, as well as a solid base for using up resin not-GW heads and weapons. I could see them serving alongside Dreamforge KasrCousins, Dreamforge Valkir Astartes, Shieldwolf Sisters, etc.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 16:37:59


Post by: frozenwastes


It's an American company so I imagine they'll do what they can to get into distribution in the US.



Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 16:48:51


Post by: Gallahad


I admit I don't really understand the fascination with WWII German design from people with the means to make sci-fi kits, but it seems to pop up pretty frequently.

They look like good solid mooks with good details from what I can tell.

I spent a little more time on their website and it looks like their first historical release is dark age Irish. It looks like there are even hounds on the sprue!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 18:51:52


Post by: John D Law


They got a Armageddon steel legion feel to me. Very cool


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 19:01:43


Post by: rgdgaming


beast_gts wrote:
In the UK North Star are stocking them. I'm tempted, but want to actually see them first.



They have it up on their facebook page,



https://www.facebook.com/wargamesatlantic/?ref=br_rs



Looks cool!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 20:05:19


Post by: Albino Squirrel


Is this from the guy(s) who ran Wargames Factory (into bankruptcy) and then started Defiance Games and ran that into bankruptcy too? It has that look.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 20:14:17


Post by: winnertakesall


 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Is this from the guy(s) who ran Wargames Factory (into bankruptcy) and then started Defiance Games and ran that into bankruptcy too? It has that look.


Yeah, i can definitely see the similarities in font, style, design etc.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 21:02:51


Post by: Gallahad


 winnertakesall wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Is this from the guy(s) who ran Wargames Factory (into bankruptcy) and then started Defiance Games and ran that into bankruptcy too? It has that look.


Yeah, i can definitely see the similarities in font, style, design etc.


Hopefully not. I agree there are similarities, but they have sprue shots and have sent them out to a couple of reviewers, so while there is still the chance that it is some sort of long con and Tony Reidy is involved, it seems unlikely.

Additionally, the sprues look like they come from the WGF factory, and I can't imagine those guys working with Tony again in any capacity.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 21:51:34


Post by: frozenwastes


Hmmm... Domain name contact details are hidden:

Registrant Contact
Name: Registration Private
Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Mailing Address: DomainsByProxy.com, Scottsdale Arizona 85260 US
Phone: +1.4806242599
Ext:
Fax: +1.4806242598
Fax Ext:
Email:wargamesatlantic.com@domainsbyproxy.com


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 22:01:27


Post by: Flinty


Apparently working with War Banner/footsore/dark peak/whatever they are now after the most recent C&D claim.

https://www.beastsofwar.com/fantasy/war-banner-wargames-atlantic-greek-skeletons/


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 22:20:32


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


This is the chap in charge (as mentioned in the North Star distribution deal), Hudson Adams

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/press-release-north-star-military-figures-to-distribute

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006928637906

and he's been active on facebook (and interested in/posting about minis/gaming) since 2015 at least

and if your interested but worried just buy through North Star


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 22:25:14


Post by: NoseGoblin


 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Is this from the guy(s) who ran Wargames Factory (into bankruptcy) and then started Defiance Games and ran that into bankruptcy too? It has that look.


No, no relation to the Reidy clan... He simply uses the same artist that Riedy once used, so it may remind you of that.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 22:26:19


Post by: Sabotage!


Honestly I'm pretty tired of seeing "Space Germans," but these guys actually look pretty good. I think excluding the Stahlhelm and some of the iconography had gone a long way. They went for the less used German parachutist helmet, and they actually look somewhat sci-fi rather than "gas mask German with laser gun." They remind me a lot of Steel Legion, who if I remember correctly were also based of WW2 German parachute divisions.

They also look better than the horribly aged plastic Cadians, and are likely significantly cheaper as well, so would probably be a good generic Guard option as well.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 22:28:49


Post by: frozenwastes


A trademark database search turned up:

Wargames Atlantic LLC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY RHODE ISLAND #1006 270 Bellevue Avenue Newport RHODE ISLAND 02840

That address is a PO box virtual office location.

One thing I'll say is that I'd never want my trade dress to remind people of wargames factory and defiance games and then have no information on my website about who I am, register my domain anonymously and use a virtual office to register my trademarks. If Nick hadn't mentioned who was actually running Wargames Atlantic in his post about carrying the line, I would have assumed the trade dress looking like defiance/tony type stuff was enough to go off of.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 23:39:17


Post by: kestral


Always nice to see some new guard options... ...but we need a scale shot!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/01 23:59:14


Post by: Yodhrin


 kestral wrote:
Always nice to see some new guard options... ...but we need a scale shot!


This. And please, people, you can get a modern GW mini off ebay for pennies, don't use 20+ year old stuff that isn't even close to the modern scale & proportions.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/02 01:36:36


Post by: Gallahad


Here is a scale shot for the skeletons I found on their Facebook:


Not too helpful for those of you interested in their sci-fi kits, but at least the fantasy releases are scaled for fantasy and not historical.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/02 02:36:23


Post by: Dr Mathias


 Yodhrin wrote:

This. And please, people, you can get a modern GW mini off ebay for pennies, don't use 20+ year old stuff that isn't even close to the modern scale & proportions.


Well, what would you like to see one up next to? Give me a few choices.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/02 02:56:40


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


A Cadian or a space marine would help me grasp the scale. Perhaps a Primaris or scion would work in a pinch.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/02 06:50:38


Post by: Stormonu


Those sprues are certainly laid out in the same manner as the old Wargames Factory.

I think those Germans might work as GSC brood brothers to counterpoint my WGF greatcoat IG...


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/02 06:53:51


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I wonder if they'll have the same rules sheets with "That's Good/ That's Bad" columns.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/02 09:18:04


Post by: Yodhrin


 Dr Mathias wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:

This. And please, people, you can get a modern GW mini off ebay for pennies, don't use 20+ year old stuff that isn't even close to the modern scale & proportions.


Well, what would you like to see one up next to? Give me a few choices.


How about using one of the currently sold skeletons instead of one from the 90's?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/02 14:32:44


Post by: Albino Squirrel


 NoseGoblin wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Is this from the guy(s) who ran Wargames Factory (into bankruptcy) and then started Defiance Games and ran that into bankruptcy too? It has that look.


No, no relation to the Reidy clan... He simply uses the same artist that Riedy once used, so it may remind you of that.


Thank you for that information. The style of artwork definitely looked familiar.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/02 21:22:51


Post by: Gimgamgoo


 Yodhrin wrote:
 Dr Mathias wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:

This. And please, people, you can get a modern GW mini off ebay for pennies, don't use 20+ year old stuff that isn't even close to the modern scale & proportions.


Well, what would you like to see one up next to? Give me a few choices.


How about using one of the currently sold skeletons instead of one from the 90's?


As someone who uses those old GW skeletons in his KoW armies, I appreciate the inclusion in the scale comparison.
I'm sure current GW fans buying the latest GW stuff aren't going to be into these figures, but all the older fans who are prepared to buy non GW stuff are.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/02 21:44:17


Post by: Galas


They look a little off because they have Heroic scale heads and weapons but realistic scale hands.

But ey they are 24 for 30€ aprox and good looking. I think I have found my imperial guard kits! I have a good bunch of Tempestus Scions but this style is very cool and theyll look different enough to be used as normal infantry squads.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/03 01:35:28


Post by: Dr Mathias


 Yodhrin wrote:


How about using one of the currently sold skeletons instead of one from the 90's?


I don't have any of the new GW skeletons but I'll see what I can scrounge up. I can do a shot of the sci-fi with more recent 40K though.



Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/03 02:37:06


Post by: Galas


That would be much appreciated!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/03 02:38:02


Post by: Gallahad


 Dr Mathias wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:


How about using one of the currently sold skeletons instead of one from the 90's?


I don't have any of the new GW skeletons but I'll see what I can scrounge up. I can do a shot of the sci-fi with more recent 40K though.



Thanks Dr Mathias, almost anything you have will likely be better than what we have now, which is a big nothing!

Thanks for helping out some fellow hobbyists!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/03 04:07:51


Post by: Yodhrin


 Gimgamgoo wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
 Dr Mathias wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:

This. And please, people, you can get a modern GW mini off ebay for pennies, don't use 20+ year old stuff that isn't even close to the modern scale & proportions.


Well, what would you like to see one up next to? Give me a few choices.


How about using one of the currently sold skeletons instead of one from the 90's?


As someone who uses those old GW skeletons in his KoW armies, I appreciate the inclusion in the scale comparison.
I'm sure current GW fans buying the latest GW stuff aren't going to be into these figures, but all the older fans who are prepared to buy non GW stuff are.


As an older fan who's prepared to buy both GW and non GW stuff, I can confirm you are in fact wrong. In fact, replacing a goofy old sculpt that lives or dies on nostalgia alone is one of the primary reasons I buy non GW stuff. In this particular case, having "plain" skeletons that match the modern ones in scale & style would be excellent, since they'd be a much better basis for Tomb Kings, but that's hard to discern when having to "translate" via the comical old Angryskull McGiantlimbs models.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/03 04:15:21


Post by: Barzam


I have to agree, the graphic designer they went with gives them a very Defiance Games feel. I'd be curious to try out a box of the Germans. One can never have too many Space Germans. I like that idea of using them as GSC troops, too.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/03 13:40:44


Post by: friareriner


This really needs to be a box of 32 Space Germans.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/03 22:52:27


Post by: frozenwastes


I wonder how close the torsos are to skitarii. I have a ton of ranger and vanguard extra heads and weapons and the long coats of these sci-fi germans might be perfect for that.

Hmmm...


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/04 00:48:38


Post by: Elbows


Also, for what it's worth, Wargames Factory still exists but they no longer produce or retail their own stuff - they sold off their designs to Warlord, but last I had heard they were remaining in existence as a company who plans/designs/produces kits for other companies. This is obviously post-Reidy or whatever his name was.

So it's entirely possible this company is using Wargames Factory for design/production/etc. No data to back this up, but the smiliarities being so strong it's feasible.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/04 02:04:30


Post by: Dr Mathias


 Elbows wrote:
Also, for what it's worth, Wargames Factory still exists but they no longer produce or retail their own stuff - they sold off their designs to Warlord, but last I had heard they were remaining in existence as a company who plans/designs/produces kits for other companies. This is obviously post-Reidy or whatever his name was.

So it's entirely possible this company is using Wargames Factory for design/production/etc. No data to back this up, but the smiliarities being so strong it's feasible.


The guy behind Wargames Atlantic was never part of Wargames Factory or Defiance. He's using a variety of freelancers, some of who did work for WGF. The methodology behind the running of the company is totally different than the way Reidy ran things. I agree that the aesthetic (particularly packaging) looks similar.

The factory doing molds is a different one from WGF, but the person running it is former WGF guy- hence the similarity in mold design.


L-R: Dreamforge Eisenkern (aftermarket head), Wargames Atlantic, GW Blackstone Traitor Guard, Wargames Atlantic, GW Blackstone Chaos Marine, Wargames Atlantic, GW Cadian Body (aftermarket head).


L-R: Raging Heroes, Wargames Atlantic, GW Cultist, Wargames Atlantic, GW Necromunda Goliath, Wargames Atlantic, GW Tau.


L-R: Necromunda Escher, Wargames Atlantic, Victoria Miniatures, Wargames Atlantic, GW Blackstone Rogue Trader, Wargames Atlantic, Raging Heroes.


L-R: GW Traitor Guard, Dreamforge Eisenkern, Wargames Atlantic Skeleton, GW Empire Body (Bretonnian head).

Apologies, I have no fantasy figures from GW more recent than 2000, other than the guy with the Empire body.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/04 03:09:02


Post by: Gallahad


Dude, big thank you. They look great to me. You obviously know how to take a scale shot! Not to mention your fantastic painting!

Thanks for taking the shot from level and them all being in the same bases.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/04 09:56:10


Post by: Tamereth


The skeletons are nice, I always prefer some jason and the argonauts style bare skeletons, but the mix of weapons is annoying, 8 of each!

Bah, I'll have to get several boxes to make whole 20 "man" units.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/04 10:57:48


Post by: NightReaver


Well that settles that. Hello new Steel Legion! Already got more tanks than I know what to do with.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/04 12:27:41


Post by: Galas


Yeah those scale shoots have convinced me. They mix extremely well!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/04 20:23:46


Post by: judgedoug


I've been chatting with Mr. Adams for a little while and he showed me test shots a while back - the Raumsjager are designed to be fully compatible with Cadian plastics, and many of the pics he sent me showed the two kits mixed. I would not want to repost them here as I do not have permission, but they fit perfectly with plastic Cadians. I predict many Cadian players will be pleased with the ability to make perhaps Veteran infantry using the two kits combined.

I have also seen previews of the next few kits that are in tooling right now and they are fantastic. They will be producing historical, fantasy, and science fiction plastic infantry kits throughout the foreseeable future.

edit: the artwork may seem familiar to many because the first two kits' illustrations are by the famous historical illustrator Peter Dennis.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/04 20:30:05


Post by: Elbows


I don't mind the new troopers - don't love them, but I don't mind them. I think a backpack and a different head would set them up pretty well. Luckily that's the easiest thing to do. Not an army I'm starting, but I think it'll do well with people (until GW does a proper guard re-release).


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/16 18:24:38


Post by: Gallahad


Beasts of War has some coverage. The coverage seems a little low effort, but the models look good. I really like the sci-fi armor additions to the Raumjagers.
https://www.beastsofwar.com/featured/quick-look-wargames-atlantic-skeletons-troopers-and-fauns/

For those clamoring for equal gender representation on the tabletop it looks like the Raumjagers include a bare female head and I have it on good authority that one of the helmeted heads has a female head on the inside...


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/16 18:40:42


Post by: frozenwastes


They should have put the pictures lower down in the post into the video itself.












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My thoughts:

Fauns look like the detail is super shallow. Like if you like to highlight it'll be a pain to get the paint where you want it.

Skeletons look good. I have a ton of weapon arms and heads left over from my GW skeletons so I might grab a set of these to make more basic undead units by combining the parts

Troopers - not a fan of the heads or the collars.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/16 19:00:56


Post by: Elbows


Yeah those are not very enticing pics. The troopers remain "okay" to me, and the skeletons are easily the best. The Fauns look awful, but it may just be the pics.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/16 19:14:14


Post by: Gallahad


 Elbows wrote:
Yeah those are not very enticing pics. The troopers remain "okay" to me, and the skeletons are easily the best. The Fauns look awful, but it may just be the pics.

I think it is just the pics. Here is a plastic faun primed white from the faun thread:

Here are some better pictures of the raw plastic from another blog:


https://blog.untilsomebodylosesaneye.net/2019/05/fauning-all-over-you.html?fbclid=IwAR0Omr3STuK8uX-cx3Fff3u4Um5uBwHRs_iQGJOxYmACX1RWFsdq88X_6-4&m=1


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/16 21:36:06


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I tried ordering the raumsjager through my FLGS. It looks like they'll be as hard to get in the US as any Frostgrave kit. Might have to wait months.

Has anyone ordered directly from Wargames Atlantic?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/16 21:59:49


Post by: rgdgaming


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I tried ordering the raumsjager through my FLGS. It looks like they'll be as hard to get in the US as any Frostgrave kit. Might have to wait months.

Has anyone ordered directly from Wargames Atlantic?



They just recently set up, and are getting product ready according to their facebook page . They are very US based, so you'll be able to get these soon. I know they are very motivated to get distribution settled in the US.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Elbows wrote:
Yeah those are not very enticing pics. The troopers remain "okay" to me, and the skeletons are easily the best. The Fauns look awful, but it may just be the pics.



The reviewer was excommunicated for not observing the removal of mold lines, and I agree, the pics are not suiting


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/18 02:08:10


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Please let me know when they are set up through a big, American distributor.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/18 03:37:51


Post by: rgdgaming


Ill let you know how the skeleton preorder went!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/18 15:19:34


Post by: NightReaver


I pre-ordered 3 boxes of the infantry. I can post some pics/comments when I get them if anybody is interested.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/18 17:39:44


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


That would be awesome, thanks.

@Nightreaver, where did you preorder from? The Wargames Atlantic site?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/18 19:58:49


Post by: NightReaver


Yup, decided to say screw it and went for a 3 box preorder deal.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/19 00:11:43


Post by: judgedoug


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I tried ordering the raumsjager through my FLGS. It looks like they'll be as hard to get in the US as any Frostgrave kit. Might have to wait months.

Has anyone ordered directly from Wargames Atlantic?


FYI Warlord are now distributing the Frostgrave and Oathmark plastics ($32 msrp I believe). Any game store with a Warlord account can order them. They are on their trade order forms under the Warlords of Erehwon section.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/19 02:49:48


Post by: Stormonu


Hmmm. Those German foot infantry look kinda squashed. I really liked the concept art, but the actual minis look overly wide. :(


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/19 12:05:30


Post by: Gallahad


 Stormonu wrote:
Hmmm. Those German foot infantry look kinda squashed. I really liked the concept art, but the actual minis look overly wide. :(

Sounds like they were designed to work with Cadians, so the wideness probably comes from that.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/19 12:43:47


Post by: NightReaver


That's heroic scale for ya. Looking at the scale pics, they look fine when lined up against other GW products. When I get mine in I'll have to compare them to some Dreamforge Eisenkern I got lying around.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/29 15:12:44


Post by: Gallahad


From their newsletter, the Skeletons and Raumjagers should start shipping this week from both US and UK hubs.

They also shared some art from their next sci-fi box sets:


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/29 15:25:41


Post by: Barzam


Huh. That dwarf design is actually not bad. Curious to see more.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/29 15:41:21


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Plastic Vostroyans? Hope they don't get a tersely worded letter.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/29 16:38:55


Post by: Gallahad


I don't think that is a dwarf but a viking.
Also, I don't think GW can come after them for Napoleonics in space.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/30 00:38:16


Post by: kestral


Old Guard in Space!? Sign me up!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/30 01:46:37


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


 kestral wrote:
Old Guard in Space!? Sign me up!

Vive L'Empereur ! (That's a "me too".)


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/30 11:03:01


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured



North Star Military Figures

Wargames Atlantic.
The new box sets from Wargames Atlantic are with us today!
We'll be shipping the pre-orders tomorrow.
http://northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=278&page=1


these now seem to be hitting normal retail in the uk


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/30 14:15:47


Post by: Albino Squirrel


Ah, if only those had come out about 10 years ago, it might have been just what I was looking for. I ended up making my own Napoleonic guardsmen: http://adventuresinminiaturegaming.blogspot.com/2010/09/painted-renegade-imperial-guard.html


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/30 15:13:15


Post by: Dr Mathias


 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Ah, if only those had come out about 10 years ago, it might have been just what I was looking for. I ended up making my own Napoleonic guardsmen: http://adventuresinminiaturegaming.blogspot.com/2010/09/painted-renegade-imperial-guard.html


I remember seeing those make the rounds a while back, very cool!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/30 18:28:06


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Nifty conversion!

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Ah, if only those had come out about 10 years ago, it might have been just what I was looking for. I ended up making my own Napoleonic guardsmen: http://adventuresinminiaturegaming.blogspot.com/2010/09/painted-renegade-imperial-guard.html


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/30 19:28:26


Post by: Elbows


Luckily they should be safe from GW, because space-Napoleonics is nothing they can really clamp down on. As someone who likes Vostroyans but didn't have the funds to dump $500 for a playable force when they came back for production, I'd be keen on a quality set of stand-in fellows. However, I have to say the previous page's Guard troopers are a bit underwhelming to me, so I hope the Napoleonic-Space-Guard are a bit better.

EDIT: As someone who still dabbles in 2nd edition, I'd also consider squats...again if done well.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/30 21:09:01


Post by: davou


very cool! following


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/05/31 03:55:00


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Anvil Industries has Grenadier bearskins with and without gasmasks. They also have turban heads should you want an East Indian Company or Indian Sepoys of the British Raj. Have not purchased from them, but I like the idea of Brodie Helmet Gladiator heads + Gothic Void torsos as the base for a Rogue Trader marine unit. The Tesla Disintegrator looks suitably weird science as well.

Victoria Miniatures has male and female ushanka heads which work for Valhallan IG (i.e. WWII Soviet army), but not the taller headgear of the Vostroyans (Czarist Russian army?).

It might be possible to use either Perry or Warlord Games plastic Zulu War British Infantry as a basis for a Praetorian Guard army. Both the above companies have enough sci-fi weapons to make converting simple. (It's something I have thought about, as I do like the Praetorian Guard but never bought the box back in the day. Have some heavy weapons teams that were on sale prior to GW closing out the line.)

 Elbows wrote:
Luckily they should be safe from GW, because space-Napoleonics is nothing they can really clamp down on. As someone who likes Vostroyans but didn't have the funds to dump $500 for a playable force when they came back for production, I'd be keen on a quality set of stand-in fellows. However, I have to say the previous page's Guard troopers are a bit underwhelming to me, so I hope the Napoleonic-Space-Guard are a bit better.

EDIT: As someone who still dabbles in 2nd edition, I'd also consider squats...again if done well.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/14 17:05:46


Post by: lord marcus


Wargames Atlantic have launched a Facebook group called The Wargames Atlantic legion.

They posted these teaser pics of the French. 6 head options. 3 gaskmasked, 3 non gasmasked. Old guard bearskin, WW1, and the one not pictured yet is apparently a hardcap kepi Blanc based on the foreign legion.





24 infantry per kit for $34.95 USD, with preorder deals apparently.

The kit will come with enough of each head option to cover the entire 24 man complement.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/14 17:33:33


Post by: BrookM


I'll be getting a free sprue later this year, looking forward to seeing how they turn out.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/14 18:19:16


Post by: Maniac_nmt


They do look like a nice option for alternative IG models. A potentially easy/good way to get not-Vostroyans or not-Death Korps onto the table.

They've also got a potentially nice halfling and Persian kit coming this year as well:

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/halflings-and-persians-and-paint

I like their slimmer, more 'realistic' armored halflings, which look similar to Westfalia's amazing sculpts.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/14 18:42:33


Post by: Perfect Organism


Those 'grognards' look excellent. Even if I don't make an army of them, I'm going to at least buy a box just to paint. Very tempted to make an army though.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/14 19:07:03


Post by: frozenwastes


I really like the WW1 sci fi french helmet. Looks awesome.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/14 20:20:02


Post by: lord_blackfang


So I got a box of the skeletons and I have to say I'm a lot less thrilled with them in person. The legs are chunky like previous GW skeletons but the torsos and arms are more 28mm truescale slender, so the figures end up looking like they have elephantiasis.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/14 20:44:43


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Agreed. Will want to see the foreign legion option first, as that's a higher priority for me than the "Old Guard", even though I started mini wargaming as a French Napoleonics player. The French foreign legion is only available as metal 28mm, while one can get Old Guard Grenadiers in plastic for conversion fodder. (IIRC, some one on Dakka Dakka did just that for their personalized 40k Guard army.) Will not make an army regardless, but Kill Team, rather likely.

As for the Halflings. I do like the more serious and professional look as opposed to the comic look. Yes, Halflings are not a warlike culture, but they are not stupid either, and trying to fight off orcs and goblins with a turkey leg and a steak knife is ing stupid. Ironically, I suspect Halflings in a more dangerous fantasy world would resemble the pre-WWI British Royal Army. Few in numbers, but highly trained professionals with incredible marksmanship skills.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Those 'grognards' look excellent. Even if I don't make an army of them, I'm going to at least buy a box just to paint. Very tempted to make an army though.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/15 01:30:03


Post by: lord marcus


 lord_blackfang wrote:
So I got a box of the skeletons and I have to say I'm a lot less thrilled with them in person. The legs are chunky like previous GW skeletons but the torsos and arms are more 28mm truescale slender, so the figures end up looking like they have elephantiasis.


Can you take a photo and mark what you are describing, please?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/15 02:03:46


Post by: Albino Squirrel


 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
... (IIRC, some one on Dakka Dakka did just that for their personalized 40k Guard army.)....


I think that was me.




Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/15 06:47:31


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Yes it is, and you even posted earlier in the thread! Anyway, where did you get the weapons?
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
... (IIRC, some one on Dakka Dakka did just that for their personalized 40k Guard army.)....


I think that was me.



Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/15 13:19:57


Post by: Albino Squirrel


For the regular guardsmen, they are just the weapons that came with the Wargames Factory Shock Troopers, which as far as I know are no longer being manufactured anymore, and I have no idea if anyone even owns the molds or rights to them. All I did was give them the heads from some Old Guard Grenadiers from Victrix miniatures.

For many of the conscripts, I just cut off the tip of the musket and replaced it with a lasgun tip to make a sort of las-musket. Many others have some very old Eldar guardian lasguns (from back when Eldar guardians carried lasguns). With a few other metal autoguns or lasguns mixed in that I scrounged up in order to get enough weapons for all 50 I did. Current (at the time) guardsman lasguns seemed much too big for them, but the old Eldar ones looked okay. There are more details here: http://adventuresinminiaturegaming.blogspot.com/2011/05/renegade-imperial-guard-conscript.html


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/15 13:32:49


Post by: lord_blackfang


 lord marcus wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
So I got a box of the skeletons and I have to say I'm a lot less thrilled with them in person. The legs are chunky like previous GW skeletons but the torsos and arms are more 28mm truescale slender, so the figures end up looking like they have elephantiasis.


Can you take a photo and mark what you are describing, please?


I'm away from home but really you can see the legs are disproportionate even on promo pictures if you know to look for it.

https://images.beastsofwar.com/2019/03/Skeleton-Warriors-Painted-Examples-Wargames-Atlantic.jpeg


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/15 13:59:31


Post by: Fenriswulf


I can't unsee it now, which is a shame as these looked like a really good deal. Still love their spears, bows and shields though.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/15 14:12:33


Post by: Gallahad


I think it is a but of a tough dilemma with skeletons, if you make ones with thinner more realistic bones they get very fiddly and fragile very fast, particularly in the ankles (like Warlord's skeletons). If you go with thicker bones you get chunky 90s era GW skeletons.
It looks like WA went for a compromise with thicker legs, but a little bit thinner arms.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/15 16:45:47


Post by: lord marcus


 Gallahad wrote:
I think it is a but of a tough dilemma with skeletons, if you make ones with thinner more realistic bones they get very fiddly and fragile very fast, particularly in the ankles (like Warlord's skeletons). If you go with thicker bones you get chunky 90s era GW skeletons.
It looks like WA went for a compromise with thicker legs, but a little bit thinner arms.


And that's why I'm ok with it, honestly


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/15 17:50:26


Post by: Slayer Dragonwing


 Gallahad wrote:
I think it is a but of a tough dilemma with skeletons, if you make ones with thinner more realistic bones they get very fiddly and fragile very fast, particularly in the ankles (like Warlord's skeletons). If you go with thicker bones you get chunky 90s era GW skeletons.
It looks like WA went for a compromise with thicker legs, but a little bit thinner arms.


Skeletons are tricky. I am curious about the Wargames Atlantic ones, but I don't need any more skeletons right now. If I ever need some, I may pick up a few sprues and see how they compare. On the other hand, I ordered a free sprue of the halflings from the wargaming survey, and am interested to see how they turn out and what options they come with.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/16 01:37:12


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Thanks for the reply. As for Wargames Factory, IIRC, Warlord Games has the rights, as the zombies and survivor were re-released in Project Z (with some new sculpts like a bike gang.) The Rising Sun line was the bulk of 1st ed. Test of Honour, and the skellies and orcs are part of Warlord of Erewhon. Now that Test of Honour is owned by someone else and in a 2nd ed, I don't know what happened to the Rising Sun line.

https://us-store.warlordgames.com/collections/project-z/products/project-z-the-zombie-miniatures-game
https://us-store.warlordgames.com/products/warlords-of-erehwon-quick-starter

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
For the regular guardsmen, they are just the weapons that came with the Wargames Factory Shock Troopers, which as far as I know are no longer being manufactured anymore, and I have no idea if anyone even owns the molds or rights to them. All I did was give them the heads from some Old Guard Grenadiers from Victrix miniatures.

For many of the conscripts, I just cut off the tip of the musket and replaced it with a lasgun tip to make a sort of las-musket. Many others have some very old Eldar guardian lasguns (from back when Eldar guardians carried lasguns). With a few other metal autoguns or lasguns mixed in that I scrounged up in order to get enough weapons for all 50 I did. Current (at the time) guardsman lasguns seemed much too big for them, but the old Eldar ones looked okay. There are more details here: http://adventuresinminiaturegaming.blogspot.com/2011/05/renegade-imperial-guard-conscript.html


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/16 02:27:10


Post by: Albino Squirrel


It looks like the Rising Sun/Japanese stuff is now in the Pike and Shotte range. https://us-store.warlordgames.com/collections/feudal-japan-1467-1603


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/16 19:02:56


Post by: lord marcus


Back to topic:

Wargames Atlantic have revealed the kepi option



Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/17 03:10:35


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Are they going to add any trim or bling to those hats?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/17 03:38:22


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


The kepi blanc is pretty plain.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/French-Foreign-Legion/media/1/213365/228643
The officers do get some braid & "scrambled eggs"; hopefully they'll provide a few officers' heads.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/622200504745261716

"You are French Foreign Legionnaires in order to die, and France will send you to where you can die." - Sign over the entrance to Legion barracks.
Le Boudin - March of the French Foreign Legion (vidéo officielle)

Edit: Changed link to the Official Légion étrangère video of Le Boudin. Better close-ups of the uniforms
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Are they going to add any trim or bling to those hats?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/17 03:45:29


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The rest of the trooper is not slaved to historical accuracy. A line of miniatures designed to capitalize on GW's aesthetics should not skimp on what makes GW's aesthetic successful.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/17 05:57:05


Post by: Elbows


The blank kepi is fine. Cramming it over a gas mask...is not.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/17 06:12:34


Post by: lord marcus


 Elbows wrote:
The blank kepi is fine. Cramming it over a gas mask...is not.


The kit comes with both gaskmadk wearing and non gasmask wearing heads with kepis


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/17 08:43:47


Post by: Perfect Organism


I guess at this point the design is finalized, but I feel those kepis could benefit from having a bit more detail. The actual FL ones are very plain and cylindrical, but on a model that looks kind of artificial and 'fake' to me. I think a very slight taper, a rounded lip on both the upper and lower edges, and possibly even a slight wrinkle might make them look more like cloth. Also, I think they would look better with chin-staps (either under the chin to hold them in place or over the brim) and those neck-curtains (not sure what the real name for those is; the piece of cloth that hangs from the back of the kepi to protect the back of the neck from sun. Not even sure if they are part of the kepi or something worn under it, but it is a very iconic foreign legion look).

[Thumb - kepi.png]


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/22 19:51:37


Post by: lord marcus





Apparently you can win two boxes if you join Wargames Atlantic's new Facebook group.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/26 20:33:50


Post by: Easy E


I am interested in seeing more of the Persians please.....


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/27 03:20:25


Post by: lord marcus


 Easy E wrote:
I am interested in seeing more of the Persians please.....


This is what we got so far:

https://www.karwansaraypublishers.com/wssnews/exclusive-preview-wargames-atlantic-persians/


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/27 20:29:54


Post by: Elbows


Did the Wargames Factory Persian releases end up at Warlord Games, or just disappear? They had a small range of Persians prior to changing business priorities. Either way, useful for a lot of people I'd imagine.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/27 20:34:52


Post by: Gallahad


I think they just disappeared. They were decent multipurpose figures, but had some issues like weird limb sizes and the neck connection being different between the infantry and the cavalry.

I'm excited to see some other Persians show up in plastic, but like most historical kits, I wish they were just a tad larger.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/08/31 17:32:09


Post by: lord marcus


 Gallahad wrote:
I think they just disappeared. They were decent multipurpose figures, but had some issues like weird limb sizes and the neck connection being different between the infantry and the cavalry.

I'm excited to see some other Persians show up in plastic, but like most historical kits, I wish they were just a tad larger.


The new kit makes me hopefully for a good replacement for my WGF horde.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/02 16:31:11


Post by: Cataphract


There is a set of the Ramujagers in my local hobby store. A tad tempted by them. Want to see more of this “Death Fields” game of their’s


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/02 16:56:41


Post by: Esmer


I find it very interesting that their current ranges - SciFi Germans, Persians and Greek-themed Skeletons - are identical to those of former Wargames Factory, yet the sculpts themselves are completely new (and better) from what I can tell.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/02 17:05:29


Post by: Dr Mathias


Cataphract wrote:
There is a set of the Ramujagers in my local hobby store. A tad tempted by them. Want to see more of this “Death Fields” game of their’s


I don't know that there is a game in development, I think Death Fields is the name of the sci-fi range. There are some sci-fi Napoleonics on the way, and some space dwarves.

I may be wrong about the game!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/02 17:28:33


Post by: alphaecho


 Dr Mathias wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
There is a set of the Ramujagers in my local hobby store. A tad tempted by them. Want to see more of this “Death Fields” game of their’s


I don't know that there is a game in development, I think Death Fields is the name of the sci-fi range. There are some sci-fi Napoleonics on the way, and some space dwarves.

I may be wrong about the game!


I think initially it is just a setting to explain why their output is sci-fi themed versions of military from across the ages.

Aliens like seeing humans fight and lift them from time to do so, hence laser weapon Napoleonic/ WWI French Infantry and WWII paratroopers get to have a barney!


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 15:48:52


Post by: lord marcus





Preview of Les grognards is up.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 16:08:03


Post by: bbb


Quite interesting.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 16:13:32


Post by: Elbows


They look okay. I know they're trying to showcase the various bits in the cover art, but I hope you can build a squad with each head, etc. If it becomes "20 guys in the box, and you get 12 bearskin caps..." it'll be pretty ruinous for collecting.

If anything you could see if the bodies/heads work with a choice of resin-aftermarket arms. Some bits on them, namely the rifles, look really poor.

If the bodies/heads/backpacks are good it could be an okay kit. It's not as impressive looking as I was hoping, but I can't really complain if the price is right and it gives a good shoving off point.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 16:29:51


Post by: Albino Squirrel


There will be only 3 of these per sprue, instead of the 4 per sprue of the Raumjager. So there is probably room for plenty of heads. But that might also mean these will come in a box of 18 instead of 24.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 16:33:24


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The Raumjagers only had 3 of the good heads and three las guns for every four bodies. I really hope there are three masked, bearskin-hatted Vostroyan heads per each three-man sprue. At least they seem to have other enclosed heads on the sprue.

These guns don't look grimdark sci fi enough. A good "Pancor" barrel would have saved them. Maybe it'll be easy to snip the tip at an angle...

As for scaling with third party parts, they are halfway between GW heroic scale and true scale. The arms looked ok, if large-handed, on Mantic plastics. They'd probably fit well with Dreamforge parts, but I haven't had the time to dig some DFG bits out and test them. On the Raumjagers sprue, the capped female head seems to be in a noticeably "truer" scale than the masculine heads, and it still looks good on the RJ body, although her clothes look relatively bigger and thicker.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 16:37:27


Post by: lord marcus


 Albino Squirrel wrote:
There will be only 3 of these per sprue, instead of the 4 per sprue of the Raumjager. So there is probably room for plenty of heads. But that might also mean these will come in a box of 18 instead of 24.


It has been confirmed on the Facebook group.

3 of each head style pictured (bearskin gasmask, bearskin non gasmask, kepi gasmask, kepi non gasmask, WW1 gasmask, WW1 non gasmask) per sprue
.3 bodies per sprue

Box of 24 figures


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 Elbows wrote:
They look okay. I know they're trying to showcase the various bits in the cover art, but I hope you can build a squad with each head, etc. If it becomes "20 guys in the box, and you get 12 bearskin caps..." it'll be pretty ruinous for collecting.

If anything you could see if the bodies/heads work with a choice of resin-aftermarket arms. Some bits on them, namely the rifles, look really poor.

If the bodies/heads/backpacks are good it could be an okay kit. It's not as impressive looking as I was hoping, but I can't really complain if the price is right and it gives a good shoving off point.


1. see my above post on the head situation.

2. Why is the rifle poor?

3. Im quite stoked for these. The greatcoats are quite good.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 16:42:17


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The lasrifles held up have different barrel tips than the lasrifles held down or shooting. It's the Mantic Dwarf Ranger sprue all over again.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 16:47:36


Post by: lord marcus


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The lasrifles held up have different barrel tips than the lasrifles held down or shooting. It's the Mantic Dwarf Ranger sprue all over again.


They all look the same to me?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 16:52:28


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Look closely. The two guys in front middle have guns with little nozzle-barrels, whereas the others have barrels that end in thicker, blunter cylinders, like flashlights. Also, the shooting barrels seem to have less verticality there.

We're these hand-sculpted?


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PS: I think they are using Simpsons-style Nobel Peace Prizes for bayonets. Ironic.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 18:01:40


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


The WW1 helmet is the M15 Adrian helmet. If one needs more, Anvil Industries stocks them, with and without gas masks.

Clever of Wargames Atlantic to package this set with multiple head choices for three different "periods". Probably they can't afford to put out 3 different boxes so this is a workable compromise.

Any word on the price?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 19:22:09


Post by: lord marcus


 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
The WW1 helmet is the M15 Adrian helmet. If one needs more, Anvil Industries stocks them, with and without gas masks.

Clever of Wargames Atlantic to package this set with multiple head choices for three different "periods". Probably they can't afford to put out 3 different boxes so this is a workable compromise.

Any word on the price?


Hudson mentioned $35, like thier not-steel-legion

For 144 heads and 24 bodies, not a bad kit.

Also, they are probably going to have multi box deals


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 19:27:07


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I wonder how the Maelstrom's Edge plastics would scale if you really want to go wild kit bashing...


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 19:48:52


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I wonder how the Maelstrom's Edge plastics would scale if you really want to go wild kit bashing...


I'll dig some of those out, too. Thinking back, The Broken seem to share a similar heroicality of scale.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 20:09:23


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Thanks. Yes, it's a decent price, and one will have plenty of heads (and perhaps other bits) for other projects. If they have multi-box deals, that's good for people who want a Imperial Guard army. I'll just want one box for Kill Team myself. I wonder if the heads could be used with either Victoria Miniature torsos or Anvil torsos?
 lord marcus wrote:

Hudson mentioned $35, like thier not-steel-legion

For 144 heads and 24 bodies, not a bad kit.

Also, they are probably going to have multi box deals


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 20:11:24


Post by: Elbows


RE: Marcus

Simple, I don't like the rifles. They look a bit short, a bit busy and their bayonets are somewhat comical looking. I also don't much care for their special weapons...they just look clunky/overdesigned. Luckily if these match up with resin arms/rifles that's an easy fix. You'd still save heaps of money getting 24 bodies for $35, etc. I don't need the kit to be perfect (it'd be a blessing if it was though!). Good news on the heads as well. Do these guys come with backpacks?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 20:59:39


Post by: BrookM


I'll await the arrival of that free sprue later this year with some anticipation, they don't look all that bad.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 21:39:11


Post by: Easy E


 lord marcus wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
I am interested in seeing more of the Persians please.....


This is what we got so far:

https://www.karwansaraypublishers.com/wssnews/exclusive-preview-wargames-atlantic-persians/


Thanks, the spearman looks good, but I am less sure about the archer. I am sure they will look good in a Men of Bronze army though.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/03 22:50:03


Post by: lord marcus


 Elbows wrote:
RE: Marcus

Simple, I don't like the rifles. They look a bit short, a bit busy and their bayonets are somewhat comical looking. I also don't much care for their special weapons...they just look clunky/overdesigned. Luckily if these match up with resin arms/rifles that's an easy fix. You'd still save heaps of money getting 24 bodies for $35, etc. I don't need the kit to be perfect (it'd be a blessing if it was though!). Good news on the heads as well. Do these guys come with backpacks?


I can understand your reasoning on the weaponry. For the record I actually like it although I agree that the bandits are a little weird but then bayonets are hard to sculpt and have come out good in smaller scales anyway.

From what I understand they come with backpacks


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/04 00:44:26


Post by: Albino Squirrel


The bayonets are probably my least favorite thing about them. And they look like they won't be very easy to remove. It would have been a good idea to design them so they are easy to remove without damaging the rest of the rifle. That will be a huge number of extra heads, though, if one can find some use for them.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/04 00:58:01


Post by: kestral


Those have some serious potential for many projects! Especially if Cavalry were to also appear.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/04 03:34:00


Post by: Elbows


Yeah if they made a reasonable $35 kit for 10-12 "sci fi cavalry", say hello Rough Riders (although I admit I think GW will produce a new plastic Rough Rider kit in the future)


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/04 03:44:43


Post by: lord marcus


 Elbows wrote:
Yeah if they made a reasonable $35 kit for 10-12 "sci fi cavalry", say hello Rough Riders (although I admit I think GW will produce a new plastic Rough Rider kit in the future)


That won't be on horses. Knowing them they will repurpose the cad files for the GSC bikes and stick cadians or catachans on them.

Greatcoat cav would be excellent.



Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/04 05:36:05


Post by: frozenwastes


It might just be me, but the angle from the wastes to the bottom of the great coats looks really off. Like instead of them being great coats, they look like gowns or dresses.

Spoiler:


Actually now that I think about it, if you wanted miniatures that looked obviously feminine while still being dressed reasonably, combining these with some Victoria of Statuesque heads might make for a great all female guard regiment. The flaring out of the bottom half of the great coat definitely gives the impression of a wider hip to waist ratio without being in any way sexualized.



Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/04 05:45:18


Post by: alphaecho




Any other versions of the photo. I'm working away from home with limited facilities for the next couple of months and the pic in the original post isn't working for me.

As per others here, I have a sprue or two on the way after completing the wargames survey and I'm interested in what I'll be getting.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/04 05:46:27


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


 lord marcus wrote:
Greatcoat cav would be excellent.

For inspiration, here are two links to the Napoleonic French Grenadier à cheval de la Garde Impériale

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Guard_Grenadier_at_Eylau.jpg
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/historex-661-grenadier-a-cheval-la-garde-1804-1815--975227


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/04 06:22:32


Post by: Elbows


 lord marcus wrote:
 Elbows wrote:
Yeah if they made a reasonable $35 kit for 10-12 "sci fi cavalry", say hello Rough Riders (although I admit I think GW will produce a new plastic Rough Rider kit in the future)


That won't be on horses. Knowing them they will repurpose the cad files for the GSC bikes and stick cadians or catachans on them.

Greatcoat cav would be excellent.



Oh, I agree. The Rough Riders will end up being on some very particular sci-fi beasty with an awful name.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/04 14:51:09


Post by: rgdgaming


His cavalry set would be a good place for rough riders. Also quite possible to get beast themed rough riders soon, as he is helping producing those as well with rgdgaming.

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Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/05 03:39:16


Post by: lord marcus


rgdgaming wrote:
His cavalry set would be a good place for rough riders. Also quite possible to get beast themed rough riders soon, as he is helping producing those as well with rgdgaming.


You are correct. WA is assisting with the fauns project.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/05 04:08:18


Post by: Elbows


If properly modeled I admit...I would not be opposed to Centaur "Abhuman" Rough Riders. It'd be a bit old school, a bit rock-n-roll.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/05 05:25:23


Post by: rgdgaming


 lord marcus wrote:
rgdgaming wrote:
His cavalry set would be a good place for rough riders. Also quite possible to get beast themed rough riders soon, as he is helping producing those as well with rgdgaming.


You are correct. WA is assisting with the fauns project.


I would hope so, otherwise the project is in a funny pickle


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/05 15:10:27


Post by: lord marcus


Hey y'all.

Wargames Atlantic is requesting suggestions for what the community would like to see if they expand on the French infantry (if they sell well) on thier Facebook group, Wargames Atlantic legion.

A large proportion of commenters are suggesting different head variants.

What would you like to see?


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/05 15:17:14


Post by: alphaecho


 lord marcus wrote:
Hey y'all.

Wargames Atlantic is requesting suggestions for what the community would like to see if they expand on the French infantry (if they sell well) on thier Facebook group, Wargames Atlantic legion.

A large proportion of commenters are suggesting different head variants.

What would you like to see?



Sci Fi Agincourt Bowmen?

No idea how to achieve it but if the aliens behind Death Fields have been taking warriors for thousands of years, why not?



Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/05 15:17:15


Post by: infinite_array


 lord marcus wrote:
Hey y'all.

Wargames Atlantic is requesting suggestions for what the community would like to see if they expand on the French infantry (if they sell well) on thier Facebook group, Wargames Atlantic legion.

A large proportion of commenters are suggesting different head variants.

What would you like to see?


Heavy weapons!

Laser cannon, autocannon, heavy machine gun and mortars.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/05 15:29:06


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Dogs in gas masks.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/05 16:23:31


Post by: Barzam


Sci-fi Roman Legionaries.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/05 17:29:58


Post by: Elbows


I think the obvious answer is that they'll do best if they keep proxying Imperial Guard unit options. Cavalry would be superb, "light field artillery" would be successful. A command box, etc. If the command box just included a ton of options (arms, heads, accoutrement, etc.) it could be a great add-on box to customize all the other boxes, etc.

A couple of banners, a couple of medics, etc.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/09 04:06:12


Post by: lord marcus


So, as an example of the raumjager with a head swap.



Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/09 04:49:59


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Interesting. Are the pickelhaubes from the Warlord Zulu war British Infantry set?

As for what expansions I'd like to see ... Special & Heavy Weapons, Command head options (NCO & Officers' kepis have braid and an embroidered design on the top of the hat), Carabiniers-à-Cheval and Dragoon helmets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepi#/media/File:Kepi_mg_3387.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carabiniers-%C3%A0-Cheval#/media/File:Napoleon_Carabiner_of_1812_by_Bellange.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragoon#/media/File:Battle_of_Jena.jpg
 lord marcus wrote:
So, as an example of the raumjager with a head swap.



Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/09 06:24:27


Post by: lord marcus


 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
Interesting. Are the pickelhaubes from the Warlord Zulu war British Infantry set?

As for what expansions I'd like to see ... Special & Heavy Weapons, Command head options (NCO & Officers' kepis have braid and an embroidered design on the top of the hat), Carabiniers-à-Cheval and Dragoon helmets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepi#/media/File:Kepi_mg_3387.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carabiniers-%C3%A0-Cheval#/media/File:Napoleon_Carabiner_of_1812_by_Bellange.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragoon#/media/File:Battle_of_Jena.jpg
 lord marcus wrote:
So, as an example of the raumjager with a head swap.



No, but close. Warlord Crimean Russian infantry


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/15 17:34:41


Post by: Dr Mathias


Here's a scale shot with some of the greatcoats.



Wargames Atlantic Raumjager, Dreamforge Eisenkern (body), GW Blackstone Traitor Guard, Wargames Atlantic Greatcoat, GW Chaos Marine, Hydra Miniatures, Wargames Atlantic Greatcoat, GW Necromunda Goliath, Raging Heroes.

I really need to get a couple normal Cadians for these types of comparison shots... I have an oddball miniatures collection.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/15 17:51:41


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Would a Raumjager torso fit on the Greatcoat legs?

How about a third party Commissar torso? (And who makes the best "heroic scale" version of those? Anvil Industry?)


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/15 18:09:48


Post by: Elbows


I'm curious if they're the same sculptor. The Raumjagers look really poor to me, where the greatcoat fellas look a good bit better.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/15 18:14:27


Post by: Dr Mathias


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Would a Raumjager torso fit on the Greatcoat legs?

How about a third party Commissar torso? (And who makes the best "heroic scale" version of those? Anvil Industry?)


The greatcoats I received were 3D printed prototypes; my guess is that the torso will not be a separate piece when injection molded. I don't know for sure though.


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/15 18:22:14


Post by: Mezmaron


The skeletons look nice, but a little squat in the legs. They will likely be more stable and less fragile than the old Wargames Factory ones.

I think those were the best skeletons ever released, in that I think they matched the style of the Ray Harryhausen stop-motion skeletons the best.

Mez





http://mezmaronslair.blogspot.com/2016/04/children-of-hydras-teeth.html


Wargames Atlantic: Hard plastic (HIPS) sci-fi and fantasy kits released @ 2019/09/16 02:15:51


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Not having purchased from Anvil, I don't know how they scale. You may already know about Victoria Miniatures and her bits.

There's Wargame Exclusive which seems on the tall side, and they do not have torsos, just full figures.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Would a Raumjager torso fit on the Greatcoat legs?

How about a third party Commissar torso? (And who makes the best "heroic scale" version of those? Anvil Industry?)