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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 03:37:30


Post by: SergentSilver


Hi, I have recently unburied my Warhammer 40k collection and am looking for help identifying some of the old minis I purchased. Some of the minis in question I bought online, but the main body of my questions pertains to a small collection I bought at an antique store. Since a lot of my focus is on collecting a varied army, I put more focus on different things that could still be used in Warhammer, but are not necessarily Warhammer pieces. Now I'm hoping to find out what some of those old pieces actually are. A few pieces I know are actually 40k but I haven't been able to figure out the name of the blister or set they came from are. This is mostly for my own archival purposes so that I can know what I have, but I'm also really curious just what my younger self was spending money on. I do have a general idea of what everything is supposed to be in terms of 40K use, but any help is appreciated.



Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 03:43:25


Post by: ingtaer


The bottom pics are of the old Rhino, you appear to have identified everything else?


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 04:03:38


Post by: SergentSilver


 ingtaer wrote:
The bottom pics are of the old Rhino, you appear to have identified everything else?


That's an old Rhino? I didn't realize that there were actual vehicle models in the early Editions. Would that be 2nd or 3rd? Was that available to the entire Imperium in those editions? Also, there are the unknown models pics in the middle that I assume were used as Storm Troopers. They have a slightly smaller size than modern 40k models and don't seem to use the Heroic scale. They also have a pseudo Samurai appearance to their armor. Other than those, are all the old models actually GW? Some of the old commissars seem odd, like the ones wearing ties. xD If they are all GW though, could you help me date them at all? If those Old Guardsmen are actually GW, wouldn't that make them 2nd Edition, or even Rouge Trader? What about the Commissars on square bases? Also, I've looked around but I can't find out what set or blister the Standard Bearer and crouching Commissar came from. Do you happen to know? Lastly, do you know what's up with the Guardsmen conversions that appear to be wearing WW1 Brodies or even their medieval English infantry helm inspiration?


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 04:38:35


Post by: insaniak


The original rhino kit was released in Rogue Trader, and lasted up until the new kit was released in 3rd or 4th edition, although it had a couple of accessory sprue updates and some metal/plastic hybrid variants (razorback, predator, whirlwind and vindicator, and the SOB tanks) added along the way. And yes, on RT the rhino was available to pretty much everyone (including orks, squats and eldar) because it was the first vehicle kit GW made and they wanted it to sell. 2nd edition restricted it to Space Marines, Inquisition and Sisters (maybe Squats, can't remember for sure) and added the Chimera for Guard.

The samurai-looking guys are likely Warmachine minis, but not 100% sure on that.

The Commissars are Rogue Trader-era, other than the guy with the green sword, who was from the 2nd edition batch. Not sure about the guy with the tie... I haven't seen it before, but I suspect it's a GW head and arms on a Copplestone body of some sort. Haven't seen the crouching one before either. Likely a conversion.


The standard bearer is a limited edition model, released in the Cadian Army Box in 2003.


The 'brodies' are heads from WHFB Brettonian infantry on Cadians.



Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 05:11:27


Post by: MacPhail


The guy with the tie has the boots, stance, and head of a lot of the 2nd ed Commissars and Officers, so I bet he's at least part GW. A lot of those plastics are from the old 36-model Imperial Guard box from around '89 or so... my first Warhammer purchase! Really fun collection for sure.

If you really want to have some fun and dig deep, there's a huge archive of classic models here: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/catindex.htm



Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 05:48:55


Post by: SergentSilver


 insaniak wrote:
The original rhino kit was released in Rogue Trader, and lasted up until the new kit was released in 3rd or 4th edition, although it had a couple of accessory sprue updates and some metal/plastic hybrid variants (razorback, predator, whirlwind and vindicator, and the SOB tanks) added along the way. And yes, on RT the rhino was available to pretty much everyone (including orks, squats and eldar) because it was the first vehicle kit GW made and they wanted it to sell. 2nd edition restricted it to Space Marines, Inquisition and Sisters (maybe Squats, can't remember for sure) and added the Chimera for Guard.

The samurai-looking guys are likely Warmachine minis, but not 100% sure on that.

The Commissars are Rogue Trader-era, other than the guy with the green sword, who was from the 2nd edition batch. Not sure about the guy with the tie... I haven't seen it before, but I suspect it's a GW head and arms on a Copplestone body of some sort. Haven't seen the crouching one before either. Likely a conversion.


The standard bearer is a limited edition model, released in the Cadian Army Box in 2003.


The 'brodies' are heads from WHFB Brettonian infantry on Cadians.



Wow! Thank you so much for all the info. I never would have guessed that old collection I bought at an antique store would have included multiple Rouge Trader Rhinos. For a lover of the older models like myself, that's super exciting! It's also cool to confirm my suspicions about the older Commissars being Rouge Trader. I've included new pics of the two with ties to help figure them out, but what I can tell you is that a closer inspection of them reveals that the head and body are one piece, with only the arms as separate parts. However, the two have exactly the same arms and the gun on the one is probably added while the sword is definitely added and is plastic. I believe the Bolt Pistol to also be plastic based on touch temperature, but I can't tell for sure. Also, both are on GW bases and the square base is marked 1984 like the other three Rouge Trader Commissars he came with. Square base one also has the typical metal insert (that would likely tell me what I want to know if it wasn't glued in), but the round base one does not. The crouching one appears to be one solid piece with a metal insert into the base, and while both weapons appear to be original, the Plasma Pistol may be a conversion. His base however is not marked by the maker. I have included further pictures of him as well.

Thank you for the info on the Standard Bearer and the converted Guardsmen. They certainly look cool with those helms, but I can't imagine personally buying a box of Brettonian Infantry just for the heads. xD

In the meantime, I have found a few more vehicles from the same collection as the Rhinos, but these one I highly doubt are GW as one has a battery compartment on bottom and moving wheels while the others have 1997 GTI on the underside. I've included pictures nonetheless. I'm still finding more things as I unpack boxes of my stuff, so I may have more pieces to ask about in the future.


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 MacPhail wrote:
The guy with the tie has the boots, stance, and head of a lot of the 2nd ed Commissars and Officers, so I bet he's at least part GW. A lot of those plastics are from the old 36-model Imperial Guard box from around '89 or so... my first Warhammer purchase! Really fun collection for sure.

If you really want to have some fun and dig deep, there's a huge archive of classic models here: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/catindex.htm



Thanks, I'll definitely be looking through that in my spare time! The guys with the ties give me a weird feeling because if not for the tie itself, I would never have questioned them more than the rest. Other than that tie, they fully look the part of Commissar. Who knows, maybe a plain shirt and tie is what GW has always pictures under the Commissars breastplates. xD You mentioned recognizing some of the plastic models as part of an old box set. Can you give me an idea of the weapons the front right three are holding? I can tell that the guys third from left are both holding Plasma guns, with the front one being original, and I believe that the big shoulder cannons are original Missile Launchers (I first assumed they were Autocannons, but the metal Guardsmen on the far left of the third row is holding a gun that more closely resembles one), but the third from right in the front row ha me confused. It looks kinda like it could be a Lasgun, but so do the two to his right. On a side note, it was a bit interesting sorting them out because I could only tell the difference between the metal and plastic ones by weight and touch temperature.



Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 06:47:36


Post by: ingtaer


The Commisars with ties are exactly that, they were metal bodies with plastic arms, released in June 1989 product code 401313.

No idea on the crouch one though.

Those tanks are Cold War era by the looks, think both Soviet? the one on the right is certainly from the BTR family.


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Nah, got it. The tracked one is a Galoob battle squads APC and is supposed to be an M113.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 07:10:49


Post by: SergentSilver


 ingtaer wrote:
The Commisars with ties are exactly that, they were metal bodies with plastic arms, released in June 1989 product code 401313.

No idea on the crouch one though.

Those tanks are Cold War era by the looks, think both Soviet? the one on the right is certainly from the BTR family.


Thanks for clearing up the two guys with ties. I'm gonna have a hard time not thinking about Commissars wearing business casual under their coats and armor now. The tanks aren't terribly surprising. Probably very common in the late 80s/early 90s. Delving deep into the old GW catalogs has revealed to me that I seem to have a nearly complete set of the original metal Guardsmen (or possibly multiple sets), with the only obvious exception being the dead one. As for the crouching Commissar, he may forever be a mystery... Or someone will see this and immediately recognize him in the next day or so. The Rhinos I have are of particular interest to me though, since Imperial Guard, or Astra Millitarum as they are now known, always need more vehicles. And those vehicles are very expensive in the numbers they field them. I could probably get away with using the APC/IFV conversions as Chimeras or Hellhounds in a friendly match, but what can I do with the old Rhinos? Are they still officially legal since they are legitimate GW products? Whether or not they are, I'm not sure what I would even do with them outside of a SM or CSM army. Can anyone else use Rhinos? If I wanted to use them as Chimeras, that should work in friendly games too.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 07:14:46


Post by: ingtaer


You can still use the Rhinos as Rhinos, the only people who might complain are those to young to remember he kit and think you are not using GW models, when informed that they are indeed RT GW most people reaction is "oh, cool".

I think Inquisition and Sisters of Battle can also use Rhinos, but am not a 40k player so am not certain.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 07:30:53


Post by: SergentSilver


 ingtaer wrote:
You can still use the Rhinos as Rhinos, the only people who might complain are those to young to remember he kit and think you are not using GW models, when informed that they are indeed RT GW most people reaction is "oh, cool".

I think Inquisition and Sisters of Battle can also use Rhinos, but am not a 40k player so am not certain.


Ah right, I knew I was forgetting someone. The SoB should be able to use it as whatever variation they have. The Inquisition can really use any Imperial Unit or Vehicle. Something along the lines of, "Hey you, are you loyal to our Lord and Savior the God Emperor?" IF YES: "Good, you are now under my command." IF NO: "DIE FOUL HERETIC!" *starts blasting* xD To be fair, the only differences with the SoB is that they don't have that level of authority and their response to NO would be, "BURN IN THE CLENSING FLAMES OF THE EMPEROR!" *starts dousing with flamer*


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 12:52:01


Post by: MacPhail


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The guy with the tie has the boots, stance, and head of a lot of the 2nd ed Commissars and Officers, so I bet he's at least part GW. A lot of those plastics are from the old 36-model Imperial Guard box from around '89 or so... my first Warhammer purchase! Really fun collection for sure.

If you really want to have some fun and dig deep, there's a huge archive of classic models here: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/catindex.htm



Thanks, I'll definitely be looking through that in my spare time! The guys with the ties give me a weird feeling because if not for the tie itself, I would never have questioned them more than the rest. Other than that tie, they fully look the part of Commissar. Who knows, maybe a plain shirt and tie is what GW has always pictures under the Commissars breastplates. xD You mentioned recognizing some of the plastic models as part of an old box set. Can you give me an idea of the weapons the front right three are holding? I can tell that the guys third from left are both holding Plasma guns, with the front one being original, and I believe that the big shoulder cannons are original Missile Launchers (I first assumed they were Autocannons, but the metal Guardsmen on the far left of the third row is holding a gun that more closely resembles one), but the third from right in the front row ha me confused. It looks kinda like it could be a Lasgun, but so do the two to his right. On a side note, it was a bit interesting sorting them out because I could only tell the difference between the metal and plastic ones by weight and touch temperature.


Third from left in the front row is from some other kit, maybe non-GW... I don't recognize it. The weapons sprue in the 36x plastic Guard box had all las weapons... those long-barreled lasguns on the far right, a couple of las pistols, and a shoulder-mounted las cannon. There were other heavy weapons available in metal blister packs, but las was the order of the day (and conversion beamers, and webbers, and other oddities long gone). Those plasma guns were both sourced from other kits of different eras... the bulbous one looks like what 2nd ed. Marines carried, and the one in the back was more modern (but not much). So whoever built these has a bit of a bits box and playing for advantage, or at least diversity, by converting up a few troopers.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 15:25:07


Post by: Kid_Kyoto





The one on the left is a Amtrak or AAPV, modern amphibious US APC. We were just talking about that exact vehicle in the historical models thread.



Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 19:08:16


Post by: SergentSilver


 MacPhail wrote:
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 MacPhail wrote:
The guy with the tie has the boots, stance, and head of a lot of the 2nd ed Commissars and Officers, so I bet he's at least part GW. A lot of those plastics are from the old 36-model Imperial Guard box from around '89 or so... my first Warhammer purchase! Really fun collection for sure.

If you really want to have some fun and dig deep, there's a huge archive of classic models here: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/catindex.htm



Thanks, I'll definitely be looking through that in my spare time! The guys with the ties give me a weird feeling because if not for the tie itself, I would never have questioned them more than the rest. Other than that tie, they fully look the part of Commissar. Who knows, maybe a plain shirt and tie is what GW has always pictures under the Commissars breastplates. xD You mentioned recognizing some of the plastic models as part of an old box set. Can you give me an idea of the weapons the front right three are holding? I can tell that the guys third from left are both holding Plasma guns, with the front one being original, and I believe that the big shoulder cannons are original Missile Launchers (I first assumed they were Autocannons, but the metal Guardsmen on the far left of the third row is holding a gun that more closely resembles one), but the third from right in the front row ha me confused. It looks kinda like it could be a Lasgun, but so do the two to his right. On a side note, it was a bit interesting sorting them out because I could only tell the difference between the metal and plastic ones by weight and touch temperature.


Third from left in the front row is from some other kit, maybe non-GW... I don't recognize it. The weapons sprue in the 36x plastic Guard box had all las weapons... those long-barreled lasguns on the far right, a couple of las pistols, and a shoulder-mounted las cannon. There were other heavy weapons available in metal blister packs, but las was the order of the day (and conversion beamers, and webbers, and other oddities long gone). Those plasma guns were both sourced from other kits of different eras... the bulbous one looks like what 2nd ed. Marines carried, and the one in the back was more modern (but not much). So whoever built these has a bit of a bits box and playing for advantage, or at least diversity, by converting up a few troopers.


Thank you, it's very interesting to learn more about the evolution of WH40k models since I love the games universe and history. It is especially interesting to hear about the old weapons that are no longer cannon, like the Beamers and Webbers. I have mixed feelings about all the conversions across editions however, as part of me is a purist collector that wants them all to have original bits for maximum value and vintage coolness even if I don't intend to sell anytime in the foreseeable future, while another part of me is a player that loves the variety of options and style offered by the game, as allowing such customization is part of what drew me into the game in the first place. I do find myself wondering where all the extra pieces ended up though, because this person obviously has played from at least 2ndEd into 4thEd and must have had a lot of it lying around as I do now. That single collection about doubled the pieces I own and I already have an entire container of old pill bottles holding extra bits. xD


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The one on the left is a Amtrak or AAPV, modern amphibious US APC. We were just talking about that exact vehicle in the historical models thread.



Very cool! What are the odds that they would come up at the same time? xD I do recall noticing that one of the two had little boat propellers on each side of the back, and the back hatch could swing down like most 40k APCs. Now that you've said it, it really does have an amphibious vehicle look that I just somehow never put together with the propellers. Thanks for the info on what it is. Hopefully most friendly games will let me use them as the Chimera they were probably converted to play.


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So, the only ones left without proper identification are the crouching Commissar and the Samurai styled minis. It has been suggested that the Samurai styled minis may be from a game called Warmachine, but not confirmed. I've found another set of ten minis I don't immediately recognize and will get some pictures of those up later. I also found what I've identified to be a mixed and incomplete Vostroyan/Valhallan HQ squad with thrown in Snipers and a Fleet Officer, which is odd but cool. Luckily, I could kinda guess what I was looking at with those and a simple google image search confirmed it. I've also found my Codices, which seem to include two 4thEd and even a 3rdEd which shows some of those old Rhinos alongside a modern looking Land Raider and Leman Russ. Those are pretty cool, though I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share pictures of those here or not.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 19:50:37


Post by: insaniak


Bah, I did say Warmachine... I meant Warzone. Apparently I had a 'senior moment'... They're definitely not Warmachine.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/07 20:01:12


Post by: SergentSilver


 insaniak wrote:
Bah, I did say Warmachine... I meant Warzone. Apparently I had a 'senior moment'... They're definitely not Warmachine.


Ha! It's perfectly fine. We all have those moments where we mean one thing and say similar sounding but very different thing. So Warzone, huh? I've heard of Warmachine before, but not Warzone to my knowledge. I might do some digging cuz those are some really cool minis in my opinion.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 17:12:54


Post by: SergentSilver


Won an auction including a number of models, some of which I wasn't able to identify. They haven't arrived yet, so I cropped the auction picture to focus on what I'm interested in finding out.

In the first crop, I know the guy in blue is a new Tempestus Scion, but I don't know the other three. The two small ones I believe to be some kind of Auspecs or Augers, but no idea what they're from. The old guy with a staff looks like a wizard or psyker of some kind. The second crop shows some kind of short model, probably a dwarf because it doesn't look like a GW Squat, and what I believe to be an old Necromunda ganger. There's a few of each in the lot, but the other red dwarf-like models are carrying guns two of which look like old Lewis with a top mounted round drum. For the last crop I'm fairly certain I know what that model is and if I am correct I am going to be one very happy IG commissar collector. The picture isn't a great one, but it's probably why I didn't have any competition on the auction. If anyone is interested, I'll post the whole lot picture later with some better photos once they arrive. Until then, any info on the models in question is appreciated.

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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 17:34:44


Post by: Kayback


The Wheeled vehicle looks like a Russian BTR-90


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 17:38:08


Post by: beast_gts


First picture - Looks like a kitbashed servo-skull, then there's an old IG Primaris Psyker.

Second picture - front is an old Necromunda Orlock ganger.

Last picture - old Games Day Exclusive female IG Commissar.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 18:04:24


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


I think the dwarfs might be older Mantic Forge Fathers, but difficult to tell from the photo. These are no longer available AFAIK, found some pics on a blog tho: https://geekandgarden.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/forge-father-stormrage-veterans-thoughts-and-review/


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 19:49:09


Post by: SergentSilver


beast_gts wrote:
First picture - Looks like a kitbashed servo-skull, then there's an old IG Primaris Psyker.

Second picture - front is an old Necromunda Orlock ganger.

Last picture - old Games Day Exclusive female IG Commissar.


Right, servo-skull is what I was thinking, just couldn't remember the name for some reason. I didn't realize there was an old Primaris Psyker. I thought the term "Primaris" came with the switch to Astra Militarum, Primaris Marines, etc. As I said for the guy in front, I figured he was an old Necromunda model so thanks for identifying him as Orlock. The rest like him probably are too. AS for the Commissar, that's exactly what I'm thinking that is too. This lot was a steal if everything is as I believe it to be.


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I think the dwarfs might be older Mantic Forge Fathers, but difficult to tell from the photo. These are no longer available AFAIK, found some pics on a blog tho: https://geekandgarden.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/forge-father-stormrage-veterans-thoughts-and-review/


Yup! Took one glance at that photo and it's definitely them. Two have the guns as described, the other is one with the other type of gun. Not sure what I'll do with those guys. I suppose I could probably run them as a regular IG Veterans team if I wanted to use them in friendly games. Squats are at least verifiably cannon again thanks to the new Necromunda including models of them.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 19:57:08


Post by: beast_gts


SergentSilver wrote:
I didn't realize there was an old Primaris Psyker. I thought the term "Primaris" came with the switch to Astra Militarum, Primaris Marines, etc.


Nope - they've been called Primaris Psykers since the 90s - (the ones before that were called Sanctioned Psykers in Rogue Trader)

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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 21:39:48


Post by: SergentSilver


beast_gts wrote:
SergentSilver wrote:
I didn't realize there was an old Primaris Psyker. I thought the term "Primaris" came with the switch to Astra Militarum, Primaris Marines, etc.


Nope - they've been called Primaris Psykers since the 90s - (the ones before that were called Sanctioned Psykers in Rogue Trader)

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Very cool! I guess I always knew them as Sanctioned Psykers from DoW: DC. Speaking of, I think I just found a model for the old IG Preacher as it resembles the ones in games, but it's being sold as a SoB model.

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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 22:05:49


Post by: beast_gts


SergentSilver wrote:
Speaking of, I think I just found a model for the old IG Preacher as it resembles the ones in games, but it's being sold as a SoB model.

Funnily enough he's sat on my desk right now! He started life as an Inquisitorial (Daemonhunters) Henchman, and was later re-labelled as a Preacher (with eviscerator chansword).


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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 23:32:10


Post by: SergentSilver


beast_gts wrote:
SergentSilver wrote:
Speaking of, I think I just found a model for the old IG Preacher as it resembles the ones in games, but it's being sold as a SoB model.

Funnily enough he's sat on my desk right now! He started life as an Inquisitorial (Daemonhunters) Henchman, and was later re-labelled as a Preacher (with eviscerator chansword).


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Lol That's quite a coincidence! So is he the old IG Priest or was that unit always the same as the Inquisition/SoB unit? I looked through all three of my old IG Codices (4th, 5th, and 6th Ed) and only saw one example of the Priest unit. It was in the 4thEd book and it was just a SoB Missionary model. I never really looked into getting one because I always liked Commissars, so I don't know that the IG ever had an official Priest model. Given that Stormtroopers were shared by IG, SoB, and Inquisition armies, it wouldn't much surprise me if the SoB Missionary was used as the IG Ministorum Priest I guess.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/22 23:49:18


Post by: beast_gts


SergentSilver wrote:
Lol That's quite a coincidence! So is he the old IG Priest or was that unit always the same as the Inquisition/SoB unit? I looked through all three of my old IG Codices (4th, 5th, and 6th Ed) and only saw one example of the Priest unit. It was in the 4thEd book and it was just a SoB Missionary model. I never really looked into getting one because I always liked Commissars, so I don't know that the IG ever had an official Priest model. Given that Stormtroopers were shared by IG, SoB, and Inquisition armies, it wouldn't much surprise me if the SoB Missionary was used as the IG Ministorum Priest I guess.


There's a bunch of similar models called priests, preachers & missionaries that are shared by a few Imperial armies. Some started out as Inquisitorial Henchmen whereas others were originally specific to certain armies.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/23 01:13:28


Post by: SergentSilver


beast_gts wrote:
SergentSilver wrote:
Lol That's quite a coincidence! So is he the old IG Priest or was that unit always the same as the Inquisition/SoB unit? I looked through all three of my old IG Codices (4th, 5th, and 6th Ed) and only saw one example of the Priest unit. It was in the 4thEd book and it was just a SoB Missionary model. I never really looked into getting one because I always liked Commissars, so I don't know that the IG ever had an official Priest model. Given that Stormtroopers were shared by IG, SoB, and Inquisition armies, it wouldn't much surprise me if the SoB Missionary was used as the IG Ministorum Priest I guess.


There's a bunch of similar models called priests, preachers & missionaries that are shared by a few Imperial armies. Some started out as Inquisitorial Henchmen whereas others were originally specific to certain armies.


Alright, I guess I should just look for a variety if they all count the same. No sense limiting myself to 5 Priests that all look the same when I can use most any Ecclesiarchy model. Might even get one of the archpriest models to use if I want to attach one to my main HQ.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/23 01:36:25


Post by: chromedog


Some of the "priests" and acolytes figures go back to the 2nd ed SoB and Frateris Militia days.



Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/23 02:05:22


Post by: SergentSilver


 chromedog wrote:
Some of the "priests" and acolytes figures go back to the 2nd ed SoB and Frateris Militia days.


I noticed some of them while scouring the SoL pages for an IG Priest model. I'll probably try to get my hands on one each of those for use.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/23 07:34:08


Post by: Snrub


Oooh. Those Daemon Hunter henchemen!

I'd love to get my hands on some of them. Never seen any for sale anywhere.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/23 09:08:56


Post by: chromedog


I recall seeing them when Daemonhunters (3rd ed) was a new thing.
I had some old RT & 2nd ed models I used for a few of them instead.

The daemonhunter 1&3 bodies were more or less interchangeable for the add-ons, too. They were randomly packed. So you could get the same body with a sword and the other with the book.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/24 04:55:00


Post by: SergentSilver


Here's some more crops. The more I browse through the SoL catalogs, the more excited I get for these to arrive. Should be here in 2-4 days now! The weeks of waiting are really building the anticipation as I identify more of the models. The first crop shows another one of the Mantic dwarfs and one of the Ogryn that initially attracted me to the lot as well as what appears to be another old Servo Skull. I don't recognize the middle and bottom left though, but the red one may be another Mantic dwarf. No idea on the bottom one. The real prize is the one in the upper right which I discovered in the pages of the 1995 catalog. He definitely appears to be Necromunda Bounty Hunter 1! If anyone has any idea what the unknown two are, do tell. Also tell if you think can confirm or deny my identification for the rest. Anyway, the second crop looks a bit like a Tyrannid. Maybe a 1st gen Genestealer? Not sure with that weird gun in his hand and I haven't been paying attention to the Tyrannid pages in SoL because I'm not that interested in them beyond lore.

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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/24 07:57:26


Post by: chromedog


The red one is a mantic "forgefather" dwarf. The pan magazine on top of the gun is one of their "things".

It's a bad angle o most of the others, but the big'un on the right is a GW 40k ogryn.
The one behind the red dwarf is maybe a Necromunda figure, but I need a more front-on angle to be sure.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/24 12:20:15


Post by: Duskweaver


Hat-and-duster dude top right is an old Necromunda bounty hunter.
Spoiler:


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/24 12:31:26


Post by: NephMakes


Middle lelft is a squat. "Ragni Beretta" from the RT302 Space Dwarf Command Group (http://solegends.com/citrt2/rt302squatcmd/index.htm).



Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/24 12:32:44


Post by: SergentSilver


 chromedog wrote:
The red one is a mantic "forgefather" dwarf. The pan magazine on top of the gun is one of their "things".

It's a bad angle o most of the others, but the big'un on the right is a GW 40k ogryn.
The one behind the red dwarf is maybe a Necromunda figure, but I need a more front-on angle to be sure.


Thanks for the confirmation. That's what I got from the image, but as you said, these angles are bad. I'll have better ones up once they arrive.


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 Duskweaver wrote:
Hat-and-duster dude top right is an old Necromunda bounty hunter.
Spoiler:


Nice! I thought I recognized him from the old catalog but wow does he look so much cooler in that picture! So many details that the small black and white images on SoL just can't convey properly. I love the bionic eye.


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 NephMakes wrote:
Middle lelft is a squat. "Ragni Beretta" from the RT302 Space Dwarf Command Group (http://solegends.com/citrt2/rt302squatcmd/index.htm).



Really!? That's awesome! He'll be my first official Squat. Good eye, thanks.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/24 13:49:35


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Hmmmm, bottom left might be a Mordheim Witch Hunter? the one with the torch & sword from the boxed set, top row: http://www.solegends.com/citcat2005spc/c2005spcp0106-00.htm


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/24 14:51:34


Post by: SergentSilver


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
Hmmmm, bottom left might be a Mordheim Witch Hunter? the one with the torch & sword from the boxed set, top row: http://www.solegends.com/citcat2005spc/c2005spcp0106-00.htm


Good catch. That certainly looks correct to me. I don't think I would have got that one from the angle and painting, but now that you've pointed it out I can see it. The sword must be pointing directly at the camera and the torch is painted brown so I thought it was some sort of branch staff like Gandalf's.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/26 23:38:33


Post by: SergentSilver


Anyone recognize these two? I think the one is an old IG model, but not sure. The other might be Necromunda or Mordheim maybe? Not even sure they're GW to be honest.

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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/29 00:12:04


Post by: SergentSilver


They've finally arrived! Most survived the shipping, but a few fell apart. A couple actually broke, but nothing I can't fix if I want to. Unfortunately, the Mordheim guy actually had his sword hand missing, so that sucks. I'll probably stick a Laspistol or something on him and make him a Priest or Psyker. It turns out that a few of the models had been modified, but I can make 'em work anyway. The most important ones are still in one piece. I could use help IDing the random non-GW models that came with however, so here they are:


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If you think you might know what one is, but want a better picture, just let me know it's row and column.

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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/31 21:57:47


Post by: SergentSilver


So thanks to the Dakka Painting Challenge Round 63, I have determined the rhino centaur looking mini to be a converted "The Gor-Gor" from Reaper miniatures Dark Heaven Legends line. I have also since double checked the bases for more info and discovered that the three models in the separate photo have helpful stickers that state they are Paizo models. Still working on the rest. I'll probably use them as painting practice and put them to use in DnD or other such games.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/05/31 22:14:10


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Perhaps those Warzone figures are these boys. There are more Warzone figures at that site if you need to make more comparisons.

The wikipedia article on Warzone (game).

I like the real world conversions for the IG APCs.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 02:31:35


Post by: chromedog


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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 13:20:13


Post by: SergentSilver


 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
Perhaps those Warzone figures are these boys. There are more Warzone figures at that site if you need to make more comparisons.

The wikipedia article on Warzone (game).

I like the real world conversions for the IG APCs.


That led me to some interesting things, but the models you linked look nothing like anything I have. Did you maybe link the wrong models?


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 16:12:21


Post by: youwashock


The guy with the feather jacket is from Dreamblade, the green fellow with the gold armor is from Heroclix. The two in the bottom picture, back row, far left. The lady in red in the back row, same picture, looks to be the medical gal from Kill Team:Rogue Trader.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 17:19:33


Post by: SergentSilver


 youwashock wrote:
The guy with the feather jacket is from Dreamblade, the green fellow with the gold armor is from Heroclix. The two in the bottom picture, back row, far left. The lady in red in the back row, same picture, looks to be the medical gal from Kill Team:Rogue Trader.


Wow, excellent eye. And an extensive knowledge of old games. I had to do a fair amount of digging to find that guy in the feather coat without the proper base. Turned out to be called "Hawk-Eyed Instigator". I didn't look up the Heroclix one because once you mentioned it, it seemed obvious from the shape of the mini's actual base. That medic from KT:RT was a real surprise. She has a non-standard base so I figured she couldn't be a GW product. It's definitely her though. It's unfortunate that her syringe needle is broken off, but those small parts tend to. On that note, do you know if there's a KT expansion that has Tyranids? I couldn't find one like that on GW's site, but the Tyranid Genestealer looking guy has a very similar base to the KT:RT medic. From the bottom at least, since it's been covered in sand on top. They do have the same paint edging on the bases that none of the other models have, which makes it more likely they were used together.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 17:31:44


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


SergentSilver wrote:
That led me to some interesting things, but the models you linked look nothing like anything I have. Did you maybe link the wrong models?
Sorry, my mistake. I misremembered what was in an earlier photo. The hats were similar, but the Mishima troops have no weapons, and the one you posted had guns and WW1 British helmets. Imperial Trenchers from Warzone would be a closer fit, but Prince August does not have any.

SergentSilver wrote:
On that note, do you know if there's a KT expansion that has Tyranids?
There are two.
Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team – The Writhing Shadow: Tyranids Starter Set
Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team – Nemesis 9 Tyrantis: Tyranid Commander Set


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 17:46:12


Post by: SergentSilver


 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
SergentSilver wrote:
That led me to some interesting things, but the models you linked look nothing like anything I have. Did you maybe link the wrong models?
Sorry, my mistake. I misremembered what was in an earlier photo. The hats were similar, but the Mishima troops have no weapons, and the one you posted had guns and WW1 British helmets. Imperial Trenchers from Warzone would be a closer fit, but Prince August does not have any.

SergentSilver wrote:
On that note, do you know if there's a KT expansion that has Tyranids?
There are two.
Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team – The Writhing Shadow: Tyranids Starter Set
Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team – Nemesis 9 Tyrantis: Tyranid Commander Set


Are you looking at the Guardsmen that were determined to be converted with WFB Bretonian infantry bits? These are the possibly Warzone mini's from the first set that are still unidentified:

There's also the crouching Commissar that no one has identified:


On the topic of the Tyranid-ish model, unfortunately no dice on the two KT expansions from what I could find.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 17:50:42


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


I've got a weird hunch that the Genestealer might be a heavy conversion of a super old metal mini with a new head. Look at the second one in the bottom row here
http://www.solegends.com/citcat1993usb40k/c1993us40kp0025-140121-00.htm - the overall pose and the legs seem to fit?
... compare to the first one here http://www.solegends.com/citcat1991a/cat1991ap102genestealers-01.htm - they came with a plastic arms sprue: http://www.solegends.com/citcat1991a/cat1991ap112plastics-00.htm


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 18:04:30


Post by: SergentSilver


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
I've got a weird hunch that the Genestealer might be a heavy conversion of a super old metal mini with a new head. Look at the second one in the bottom row here
http://www.solegends.com/citcat1993usb40k/c1993us40kp0025-140121-00.htm - the overall pose and the legs seem to fit?
... compare to the first one here http://www.solegends.com/citcat1991a/cat1991ap102genestealers-01.htm - they came with a plastic arms sprue: http://www.solegends.com/citcat1991a/cat1991ap112plastics-00.htm


Yes, I remember seeing some of those old model Tyranids on my cousins shelf when I was just a kid. They're one of the reasons I feel inclined to believe it's a Tyranid model of some sort. Unfortunately, it can't be one of those because it's entirely made out of a semi-flexible plastic. I've never seen GW use a material like this, which is why I put it with the non-GW models.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 18:13:34


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


SergentSilver wrote:
Are you looking at the Guardsmen that were determined to be converted with WFB Bretonian infantry bits? These are the possibly Warzone mini's from the first set that are still unidentified

These ones, from the first post.

The crouching commissar and unknown troops you linked to are unknown to me. Those helmets seem vaguely samurai-like, but they don't match the Mishima figures.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 18:16:21


Post by: youwashock


Genestealer guy is a Reaper Chronoscope Bathalian. Flexible plastic means it is BONES. Not sure, but the green triceratops with the triangular gun could be a very old Triceraton from TMNT. There were some models made from the old comic series.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 19:20:29


Post by: SergentSilver


 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
SergentSilver wrote:
Are you looking at the Guardsmen that were determined to be converted with WFB Bretonian infantry bits? These are the possibly Warzone mini's from the first set that are still unidentified

These ones, from the first post.

The crouching commissar and unknown troops you linked to are unknown to me. Those helmets seem vaguely samurai-like, but they don't match the Mishima figures.


Yes, those guys are the ones we determined to be a Cadian/Bretonian mix with a few extras. The Commissar is probably a third party model made to look like 40k as is very common. Warzone was the only guess for the other models.


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 youwashock wrote:
Genestealer guy is a Reaper Chronoscope Bathalian. Flexible plastic means it is BONES. Not sure, but the green triceratops with the triangular gun could be a very old Triceraton from TMNT. There were some models made from the old comic series.


Yup, found the Bathalian. One of the Kulathi Left Handed three pack it seems. I'll probably have to dig deeper than I care to if you're correct on the dino guy, but I'll see if I can confirm that. Thanks for the info.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 19:32:19


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


The samurai-like troops are Void VASA suppressors, can't find any proper pics outside ebay tho


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/01 19:45:18


Post by: SergentSilver


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
The samurai-like troops are Void VASA suppressors, can't find any proper pics outside ebay tho


It would seem you are correct. I found only two pictures that were large enough to confirm the model, so it seems those pieces are OOP. However the site originally hosting those two images still carries the line, except that none of the models look like the ones I have. From that site's description, it would seem that the original producers of Void sold them the rights to the game, so it is likely that what I have are from the original release and what's on the site now are the newer models.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/08 17:34:59


Post by: SergentSilver


I was browsing through the old catalogs today to see exactly what models I have in that set of old metal IG and I discovered that what I thought was a medic with a communication device is actually labeled "Medic Eating Vegiburger" XD

Second row from the back, second model from the left. Can't miss the big red "+" on his medic bag:


I'm 99% sure it's the same model here:
http://www.solegends.com/citcat19891summer/15-072019-ig-00.htm


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/08 20:20:52


Post by: SergentSilver


Alright, some models and bits I bought a couple weeks ago finally arrived today. I bought them for the three CSM named heroes, and the Eldar Farseer, Necron, and Ork Nob say what they are on the tab, but I can't read the tab on the big Ork boss guy nor the Dark Eldar looking one. Best I can make out is GRIM on the Ork and RAZHAR on the DE. Help IDing them wanted as well as confirming that the three CSM and the Necron have all pieces. Would also be helpful to know what all the bits in the middle are. And some more info on the Necron. He looks like an old lord, but he's more Egyptian looking than I'm used to on Necrons made in metal.

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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/08 20:28:04


Post by: beast_gts


There's an old Drazhar in the middle, and the Orc on the bottom row is a Fantasy one from the video game IIRC.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/08 20:29:30


Post by: Kayback


Fabius Bile, Kharn, Abbadon.

Edit Doh, my night shift addled brain read Middle as Top.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/08 20:39:10


Post by: SergentSilver


beast_gts wrote:
There's an old Drazhar in the middle, and the Orc on the bottom row is a Fantasy one from the video game IIRC.


Drazhar, looks right from the partial letter on the tab, but I'm not familiar with DE units. Thanks for the help! Not sure what I'll do with him. I'm looking up more info about him and see if I have the complete model there or not (are his arms in the bits?)

Kayback wrote:
Fabius Bile, Kharn, Abbadon.

Edit Doh, my night shift addled brain read Middle as Top.


No problem. Can you confirm that they are all there, or am I missing a small bit on one or more?


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/08 20:44:57


Post by: beast_gts


 SergentSilver wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
There's an old Drazhar in the middle, and the Orc on the bottom row is a Fantasy one from the video game IIRC.


Drazhar, looks right from the partial letter on the tab, but I'm not familiar with DE units. Thanks for the help! Not sure what I'll do with him. I'm looking up more info about him and see if I have the complete model there or not (are his arms in the bits?)


He looks to be complete -
Spoiler:



 SergentSilver wrote:
Can you confirm that they are all there, or am I missing a small bit on one or more?

If you know what something is called your best bet would be to have a look at Stuff of Legends and check the parts against the original catalogue.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/08 20:52:04


Post by: youwashock


Drazhar and the Chaos trio look to be complete. The trident on the right is from the original Lelith Hesperax model, the whip and man-catcher by it are possibly from the Gorkamorka slaver/runtherd, the fanned blades are for a Datl Eldar Wych's shoulder.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/08 20:55:47


Post by: SergentSilver


beast_gts wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
There's an old Drazhar in the middle, and the Orc on the bottom row is a Fantasy one from the video game IIRC.


Drazhar, looks right from the partial letter on the tab, but I'm not familiar with DE units. Thanks for the help! Not sure what I'll do with him. I'm looking up more info about him and see if I have the complete model there or not (are his arms in the bits?)


He looks to be complete -
Spoiler:



 SergentSilver wrote:
Can you confirm that they are all there, or am I missing a small bit on one or more?

If you know what something is called your best bet would be to have a look at Stuff of Legends and check the parts against the original catalogue.


Thanks. His arms and backpack are indeed among the bits. There's actually a second left arm interestingly enough. And yes, that would be a good idea. I spend so much time pouring through the old catalogs, I can't believe I didn't think about that myself.


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 youwashock wrote:
Drazhar and the Chaos trio look to be complete. The trident on the right is from the original Lelith Hesperax model, the whip and man-catcher by it are possibly from the Gorkamorka slaver/runtherd, the fanned blades are for a Datl Eldar Wych's shoulder.


Thanks! Looking up the Lelith model has led me to believe that you are correct about the trident, and the blades seem to belong to her as well along with the loose leg. It seems the only part of her I don't have is her body. xD Haven't found anything confirming the whip and claw yet though.
Edit: Which is a shame really. If I had both Drazhar and Lelith I'd probably consider making a DE Kill Team to see if I like playing DE at all.


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Alright, so I've spent some time searching google for a WFB Ork boss model named Grim since that's all I can make out from the tab and I've found nothing on him. I did find a lot of cool conversions made to look like Ork bosses from the various WH40k games though, including a couple particularly nice copies of the Ork boss from DoW.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/09 15:57:41


Post by: SergentSilver


Anyone have any idea what the pennant pole above the trident is from? It looks like the base is a wolf or dragon head. Any more info on the big Ork with goblin on his shoulder would be great too, especially his complete name.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/09 16:33:43


Post by: youwashock


Grumlok and Gazbag. Limited edition for Warhammer Online. The small blades above the ork pistol may go to him.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/06/09 18:12:44


Post by: SergentSilver


 youwashock wrote:
Grumlok and Gazbag. Limited edition for Warhammer Online. The small blades above the ork pistol may go to him.


Thanks! No wonder I was having trouble finding him. I was looking for a "Grim" something. As for the blades, that's possible. There are a couple blades and a spike/blade still attached to his axe by sprue, so it wouldn't surprise me if he had more. Is that banner pole his as well maybe? Now that I have his name I'll look around again.


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 youwashock wrote:
Drazhar and the Chaos trio look to be complete. The trident on the right is from the original Lelith Hesperax model, the whip and man-catcher by it are possibly from the Gorkamorka slaver/runtherd, the fanned blades are for a Datl Eldar Wych's shoulder.


I found a listing on ebay that shows an Ork Runtherds/Slaveminders with one having the same grabber and whip. Good job!


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/07/07 03:17:53


Post by: SergentSilver


Alright, I've been getting new bits in over the past month and I need some help figuring out what some of the more obscure bits are and the origin kits for them all. Obviously I know a Heavy Flamer, a Plasma Gun, and Boltguns when I see them, but for the sake of easiness, assume I know nothing about any of these and tell me what you know so I can try to get the full picture without listing each part. Thanks a bunch to all who try to help.



Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/07/07 04:43:08


Post by: Kayback


A HK missile launcher boxes top left, found in all IG tank boxes.

Center top is Rhino up armour parts, no idea top right.


Then B Inferno cannon? Mix of heavy flamer and vehicle mounted pintel bolters. C Search light parts, smoke launchers, D actual HK Missile boddies. The white metal sprue next to the HK missile is ths control sprue for a Grot Kannon. I don't know if that was reused in other kits bit that's where I got mine.

E glue on headlights and mini smoke launchers for a Rhino

F is the multi part join for the HK missile boxes. The round bits are the front of the searchlights. The rectangle boxes are the exhaust vents for the HK missile launcher boxes. And a new HK missile body.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/07/07 06:54:29


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Kayback wrote:
A HK missile launcher boxes top left, found in all IG tank boxes.

Center top is Rhino up armour parts, no idea top right.


Then B Inferno cannon? Mix of heavy flamer and vehicle mounted pintel bolters. C Search light parts, smoke launchers, D actual HK Missile boddies. The white metal sprue next to the HK missile is ths control sprue for a Grot Kannon. I don't know if that was reused in other kits bit that's where I got mine.

E glue on headlights and mini smoke launchers for a Rhino

F is the multi part join for the HK missile boxes. The round bits are the front of the searchlights. The rectangle boxes are the exhaust vents for the HK missile launcher boxes. And a new HK missile body.


The square is a pallet for ammo from a 3rd edition terrain set (all of these are Rogue Trader-3rd edition era).

Metal plasma and multimelta tips are from the old Demolisher tank.

Center items (near A) are actually Rhino hull parts from the RT-3rd edition rhino. The rectangle with rivets is from a Chimera, a part to support a baslisk platform.



Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/07/07 08:57:43


Post by: SergentSilver


Kayback wrote:A HK missile launcher boxes top left, found in all IG tank boxes.

Center top is Rhino up armour parts, no idea top right.


Then B Inferno cannon? Mix of heavy flamer and vehicle mounted pintel bolters. C Search light parts, smoke launchers, D actual HK Missile boddies. The white metal sprue next to the HK missile is ths control sprue for a Grot Kannon. I don't know if that was reused in other kits bit that's where I got mine.

E glue on headlights and mini smoke launchers for a Rhino

F is the multi part join for the HK missile boxes. The round bits are the front of the searchlights. The rectangle boxes are the exhaust vents for the HK missile launcher boxes. And a new HK missile body.


Kid_Kyoto wrote:

The square is a pallet for ammo from a 3rd edition terrain set (all of these are Rogue Trader-3rd edition era).

Metal plasma and multimelta tips are from the old Demolisher tank.

Center items (near A) are actually Rhino hull parts from the RT-3rd edition rhino. The rectangle with rivets is from a Chimera, a part to support a baslisk platform.




Thanks a bunch you two. I would not in a million years have guessed those cone shaped pieces with spiky bits were searchlights. I was trying to decide which RT Eldar Wraiths legs they fell off of.

About those Grot Kannon controls... I wonder if those go to the old Griffon tank. I did get one from the same person as those pieces and one crewman seems to be reaching for a lever on the side of the mortar that I can't find. They were based separately, so when I put them on it doesn't quite fit anyway and I just chalked it up to bad positioning due to the height difference added by the standard base.

I've never owned a Chimera before so I don't have any proper experience to compare it to, surprising for someone with intent to play IG I know, but you may be right about that one darker heavy flamer looking piece being an Inferno Cannon. There are a ton of parts I didn't picture because I know what they are, including all six lasgun mounts for a Chimera APC. I was thinking of using them to create a custom Aegis Defense Line wall with a bunker and gun hardpoints. Maybe I'll throw in the Inferno Cannon in a position to cover the approach or an entry point on the outside. Or carve a small turret for it out of foam, cover it in extra armor bits, and make a proper turret hardpoint out of it. That's probably what will end up happening to the Plasma and Multi-melta, though those usually come in pairs when mounted on tanks, don't they?


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/07/07 09:46:53


Post by: Kayback


 SergentSilver wrote:
[ That's probably what will end up happening to the Plasma and Multi-melta, though those usually come in pairs when mounted on tanks, don't they?


Yes they should. Dunno what happened to your extras. They are useful for other kitbash projects and may have been used elsewhere.


1 is an example of the search lights. 2 is the pintel bolters but a bad example as I stuck 2 together to make a storm bolter. Originally they fit into the holes in the top of the hatch covers, 3 is the small smoke launchers from the Rino kit, 4 is the IG tank smoke launcher, which may have come off my Chimera.

The metal Kanon controls can be from the Griffon, they are the elevation and windage on the cannon and saves having to make a new sculpt for the same use.


The pink is the new searchlight, I've only seen it on Dreadnought vehicles, maybe SM vehicles but I've only bought a Land Raider and Land Speeders semi-recently. Top pink is lens, bottom pink is the stand/back.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/07/07 14:48:04


Post by: SergentSilver


Alright, thanks for that information. The Griffon is unpainted and in need of some... restoration work anyway. Mostly just a complete realignment of the tread system to fit snuggly, but it has a couple other areas I'd like to touch up as well. I'll try to find out the proper assembly for the cannon before I get to it.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/09/24 04:55:59


Post by: SergentSilver


So I recently discovered the app BattleScribe and am trying to point out my armies on it, but I have come to the personally startling revelation that I actually don't know how to tell the difference between SM officers by appearance. Obviously I can make out basic things such as weapons held and terminator armor, but I can't tell if I'm looking at a Captain, Lieutenant, Sergeant, etc. I also am not clear on the specifics of Dreadnaught variants after noticing some unknown ones under Heavy Support. So I turn you all here to help. Please let me know what exactly these models are, especially on the off chance one or more are named characters. Thanks.




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Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/09/24 05:13:22


Post by: Snrub


Alright, the left and right dreadnoughts are both "Standard", the right one though is the old metal version (must weigh a ton!). The middle dread is a Venerable dreadnought.

The characters are as follows.
Top row from left to right...
1. Hard to tell due to the thick layer of primer. Could be a terminator chaplain.
2. Terminator captain
3. Pretty sure this guy was billed as a veteran sergeant. Bolter and Powerfist, you could use him as anything really.
4. A limited edition standard bearer, but I don't remember where or what from.
5. Old version of Ultramarines Chief Librarian Tigurius

Bottom row left to right...
1. Captain.
2. Crimson Fists captain Cortez.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/09/24 05:59:06


Post by: SergentSilver


 Snrub wrote:
Alright, the left and right dreadnoughts are both "Standard", the right one though is the old metal version (must weigh a ton!). The middle dread is a Venerable dreadnought.

The characters are as follows.
Top row from left to right...
1. Hard to tell due to the thick layer of primer. Could be a terminator chaplain.
2. Terminator captain
3. Pretty sure this guy was billed as a veteran sergeant. Bolter and Powerfist, you could use him as anything really.
4. A limited edition standard bearer, but I don't remember where or what from.
5. Old version of Ultramarines Chief Librarian Tigurius

Bottom row left to right...
1. Captain.
2. Crimson Fists captain Cortez.


Thanks a bunch! I'm very surprised there was not just one, but two named models in there as well as a LE model. There's actually a second of the standard bearer, but he's bare metal so I figured he'd be harder to tell. What would the two standard bearers go as in BattleScribe since that isn't an option I see. I know the Primaris Ancient holds the standard for them so would they be Company Ancients? I did correctly suspect the Captains, so that's restored some of my faith in myself, but I wasn't sure with BattleScribe having Lieutenants as well. There were also two of each of the Captains and I'm not quite sure what to do with multiple HQ models. Ah well, I'm sure they'll be useful for separate detachments or something. As a main CSM and IG player, I never looked too hard into how SM were set up way back in 5th, so I certainly don't know how they do it now in 9th.

I believe you are right about the Veteran Sergeant too. I looked up Veteran Sergeant on google images and I found a picture of a squad labeled Space Marine Veterans and one looks almost exactly like him, but a newer sculpting with more detail and a modern looking boltgun.

Oddly, though I did confirm that model is Captain Cortez of the Crimson Fists, BattleScribe doesn't have a listing for him. Did he die and get removed at some point?

As for the Dreads, that's what I believed, so that's good. However, I thought the Venerable Dread's left arm was called a Dreadnought Power Fist, but BattleScribe doesn't have that as an option either. Were they dropped at some point? And yes, that metal guy is a solid hunk of Citadel alloy and is quite hefty. Pretty sure he'd break a foot if dropped instead of breaking himself. Or put a dent in any non-ceramite flooring.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/09/24 06:18:40


Post by: Snrub


 SergentSilver wrote:
There's actually a second of the standard bearer, but he's bare metal so I figured he'd be harder to tell.
Bare metal/resin/plastic isn't that hard to tell unless under really bright light. It's also useful to help identify conversions and miscellaneous bits.

What would the two standard bearers go as in BattleScribe since that isn't an option I see. I know the Primaris Ancient holds the standard for them so would they be Company Ancients?
I don't know anything about battlescribe so I can't say for certain. But company ancient is your best bet. Maybe chapter ancient too?

I did correctly suspect the Captains, so that's restored some of my faith in myself, but I wasn't sure with BattleScribe having Lieutenants as well.
I don't know if you can upgrade Lieutenants to have terminator armour, but power armoured LTs. can pretty much pull double duty as sergeants or captains, etc depending on loadout. Space marine models are versatile like that.

As for the Dreads, that's what I believed, so that's good. However, I thought the Venerable Dread's left arm was called a Dreadnought Power Fist, but BattleScribe doesn't have that as an option either. Were they dropped at some point?
Dreadnought power fist got changed to dreadnought close combat weapon.

And yes, that metal guy is a solid hunk of Citadel alloy and is quite hefty. Pretty sure he'd break a foot if dropped instead of breaking himself. Or put a dent in any non-ceramite flooring.
I've heard tales of the old metal thunderhawks chipping tiles and denting floorboards when dropped. So you're foot's not going to stand a chance.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/09/24 06:38:40


Post by: SergentSilver


 Snrub wrote:

I've heard tales of the old metal thunderhawks chipping tiles and denting floorboards when dropped. So you're foot's not going to stand a chance.


"EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE. COMMENCE STEEL RAIN!"

Alright, so it's just a Dread CC now. That's good to know. I don't see Chapter Ancient as an option, so it has to be Company Ancient. Thanks again.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/09/24 10:22:20


Post by: Nevelon


Lieutenants are going to be either really new or really old. I’m not sure there was officially more than the one RT model before they brought the rank back in 8th.
Spoiler:



Everyone else is going to be a captain or a sarge (with the odd named character in there)

Old metal dreads are part of the table-side justice system known as the "Dreadsock” where you take him, put him in a sock, and beat cheaters to death with it. Or so the legends tell.

And standard bearers go by Ancient these days. I think the only Chapter Ancient was the one that came in the UM HG box with Calgar. The others would be Company Ancients.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/09/24 17:12:54


Post by: SergentSilver


 Nevelon wrote:
Lieutenants are going to be either really new or really old. I’m not sure there was officially more than the one RT model before they brought the rank back in 8th.
Spoiler:



Everyone else is going to be a captain or a sarge (with the odd named character in there)

Old metal dreads are part of the table-side justice system known as the "Dreadsock” where you take him, put him in a sock, and beat cheaters to death with it. Or so the legends tell.

And standard bearers go by Ancient these days. I think the only Chapter Ancient was the one that came in the UM HG box with Calgar. The others would be Company Ancients.


That's very good to know, thanks. The lack of the general existence of Lieutenants during the time period I played and the name change to Ancients after is probably why I didn't remember either of them existing.

I like the sound of the "Dreadsock" system. Considering that, I have to ask if bases are still relevant to the actual gameplay in 9th or if I can leave him without and still use him. Would hate to break a base when beating a cheater, ya know? A Dread sized base can get fairly expensive and time consuming when all is said and done and he's actually pretty stable on his own.

As an aside, do you recommend going through the trouble of stripping the partial blue paint he has on before priming and repainting? I know I really should, but he would take a lot of simple green or nail polish remover to get full coverage for the soaking... And they can both strip the glue depending on the type used, so I'd have the hassle of putting him back together to boot. Maybe a good scrubbing with nail polish remover might work instead? Could be quicker and less likely to deconstruct him.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/09/26 07:32:22


Post by: chromedog


If the npr contains acetone, it will also debond superglue, so bear that in mind and be careful of how much you apply.

A q-tip dipped in it and selectively applied also strips paint. It will just take a bit longer, but the rubbing will also help move the paint.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2020/09/26 18:23:50


Post by: SergentSilver


 chromedog wrote:
If the npr contains acetone, it will also debond superglue, so bear that in mind and be careful of how much you apply.

A q-tip dipped in it and selectively applied also strips paint. It will just take a bit longer, but the rubbing will also help move the paint.


Thanks, I bought some with acetone specifically for stripping metal models, but I do have more without. Good to know it's the acetone that removes the glue so I can use the acetone free one when I don't want to.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/04/17 01:41:47


Post by: SergentSilver


Anyone know what this is and what it goes to? Came with an old IG Griffon, but it looks like a backpack type piece.





Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/04/17 09:47:09


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


"Sentinel Array" for an Eversor Assassin! http://www.solegends.com/citcat2004us/c2004usp0099-01.htm


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/04/17 14:36:08


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


I was going to say the griffon crew came with a radio backpack but yeah, that looks more like the assassin's backpack. Maybe someone got them mixed up.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/04/17 16:32:23


Post by: SergentSilver


MobileSuitRandom wrote:"Sentinel Array" for an Eversor Assassin! http://www.solegends.com/citcat2004us/c2004usp0099-01.htm


Kid_Kyoto wrote:I was going to say the griffon crew came with a radio backpack but yeah, that looks more like the assassin's backpack. Maybe someone got them mixed up.


Yup, that's it! The seller obviously didn't quite know what all they had. The Griffon came with it's crew thankfully, even if almost the entire tank was assembled incorrectly and without clipping nibs. The seller also had an assassin bundle of three that I didn't get which had the Eversor Assassin 1, apparently missing his backpack. I wanted it as well since it had the old Combi-weapon Assassin, but didn't have the money at the time and it sold. I actually got both halves of another set that was split between two of their listings. They had a bundle of old Catachan and a bundle of old Cadians. The Catachan had a Lascannon crew, but the Lascannon was with the Cadians.



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I feel kinda bad for the person who bought the Assassins. Probably didn't realize until they arrived that the Eversor was incomplete since the listing didn't mention it and there was no picture from the back of the models.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 03:04:45


Post by: SergentSilver


All right, got a new one for you all! Who the heck is this guy?



All I can really tell is that he seems to either be old Admech or an Inquisitor judging by the robe and power armor.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 04:34:46


Post by: Snrub


If you can/want, break if off the base and check the slotta tab. It should say on there who/what he is. At the very least it'll tell you what company he came from.

I thought it might have been one of the old Skullz tech-priests, but it's not. Its hard to tell with the somewhat thick paint, but the sculpting style doesn't look to be 100% GW, to me. The back pack sort of fits the GW design style, but something about the body says no.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 05:12:30


Post by: chromedog


It doesn't look GW.

GW weren't the ONLY ones doing tabbed minis with slotted bases in the 90s. Grenadier and a couple of others did them, too.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 12:31:41


Post by: SergentSilver


Snrub wrote:If you can/want, break if off the base and check the slotta tab. It should say on there who/what he is. At the very least it'll tell you what company he came from.

I thought it might have been one of the old Skullz tech-priests, but it's not. Its hard to tell with the somewhat thick paint, but the sculpting style doesn't look to be 100% GW, to me. The back pack sort of fits the GW design style, but something about the body says no.


chromedog wrote:It doesn't look GW.

GW weren't the ONLY ones doing tabbed minis with slotted bases in the 90s. Grenadier and a couple of others did them, too.


He seems GW to me mostly for the design decisions actually, but he may be from a copycat I suppose. I'll see what I can do about getting him out of the base intact.




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Btw, just to give an idea of his potential age, he came in a fair-size collection of RT-3rd Ed minis, including a 5 man squad of original GK Terminators.


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Unfortunately, I'm not seeing any way to get him off without damaging the paint. He's glued down pretty good and it seems to be mostly at his feet and one side of the tab. If I wanted to repaint him myself, I could soak him and break the base off after the glue is weakened, but I actually want to leave the paintjob until I feel I can do better.


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On a side note, one of the other models that came with him is a rather nicely painted Librarian, who also happens to be the only Librarian I have ever seen wearing a normal helmet.

The one of the left, obviously:


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 15:05:37


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Intriguing. What's the symbol on his shoulder pad, the greenish one?


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 15:08:18


Post by: beast_gts


 SergentSilver wrote:
On a side note, one of the other models that came with him is a rather nicely painted Librarian, who also happens to be the only Librarian I have ever seen wearing a normal helmet.
Most had helmets in RT, then it changed over time...

SoL Link - Lexiccanium 2.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 15:18:57


Post by: SergentSilver


MobileSuitRandom wrote:Intriguing. What's the symbol on his shoulder pad, the greenish one?


The normal Librarian skull with rams horns, same as the blue one without helmet.

beast_gts wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:
On a side note, one of the other models that came with him is a rather nicely painted Librarian, who also happens to be the only Librarian I have ever seen wearing a normal helmet.
Most had helmets in RT, then it changed over time...

SoL Link - Lexiccanium 2.


Nice spot! I've looked through SoL a lot and never noticed before that the second variation of each of the three schools has a normal helmet.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 15:30:58


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Ah, I meant the greenish symbol on the unidentified ad-mechy dude's shoulderpad, not on the greenish Libby, sorry for being a bit vague.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 15:55:41


Post by: SergentSilver


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
Ah, I meant the greenish symbol on the unidentified ad-mechy dude's shoulderpad, not on the greenish Libby, sorry for being a bit vague.


Oh! No problem, here's a pic. Not sure why it wants to be upside down, but it seems to be two cherubs holding up a banner.



Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 16:07:51


Post by: The Power Cosmic


I have that exact admech looking guy without a base, and I can tell you the tab is no help. I put a pic up on dakka a while back and no one was able to ID it. Just a copycat model by some non-GW company, though a cool one.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/01 16:21:27


Post by: SergentSilver


 The Power Cosmic wrote:
I have that exact admech looking guy without a base, and I can tell you the tab is no help. I put a pic up on dakka a while back and no one was able to ID it. Just a copycat model by some non-GW company, though a cool one.


Thanks


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So it's likely not GW then, but it may be an early event model like the 3rd party AdeptiCon models.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/05 15:32:27


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 SergentSilver wrote:
All right, got a new one for you all! Who the heck is this guy?



All I can really tell is that he seems to either be old Admech or an Inquisitor judging by the robe and power armor.


It's from a GW-like line from the early 90s, blanking on its name right now... The same folks who did the GWAR game and the almost Cadians and the Near Battle Sisters.

Demonflame? Demonforge? Demonblade? Gonna go with Demonblade. But yeah, they also did some cool figs to fill gaps in the 40k range.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/05 16:46:58


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Wow, you're spot on with Demonblade. Never heard of these! Game apparently was Shockforce and this guy's a "Lord of Technology" sculpted by Bobby Jackson http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Shock_Force


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/07/06 02:53:36


Post by: SergentSilver


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
Wow, you're spot on with Demonblade. Never heard of these! Game apparently was Shockforce and this guy's a "Lord of Technology" sculpted by Bobby Jackson http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Shock_Force


Wow! Looking over the whole range makes me want them all! They're not just GW-like, they're totally complete copycats though. It's unashamedly obvious what each model is ripped from in early 40k/RT.


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Still, from the Lord of Technology/Techno Cleric name, seems my intention to use him as a Techpriest Enginseer was right on the mark.

Edit: I meant to click Forum Index and accidentally Exalted myself... How do I undo this before I look like I'm trying to boost myself?


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/17 03:35:11


Post by: SergentSilver


Alright my fellow mini collectors! I've recently got a bits box from someone who was selling a good size collection of old models, and I need quite a bit of help figuring out a number of the bitz. As always, I'll probably find some of it in SoL eventually, but all help is appreciated. In the spirit, feel free to request better pictures of anything specific you think you might have an idea about, but want to see more detail to be sure. Also, for obvious things such as "a metal missile", I'm not looking to be told what it is so much as what model/kit it originally came with.

Here's a whole bunch of metal and plastic bitz to hopefully make some sense of:

Now I've tried to sort it to some extent based on intuition of what goes together, and what I can tell is that I seem to have some of an old AT Titan in the back left, most of a SM Whirlwind upgrade set in the back middle, and a possibly complete SM Vindicator kit for the old Deimos Rhino body in the front right. As for the rest, I know enough to make guesses and tell some parts like the metal Armored Sentinel caps, but I don't know if there's more to it and such. Some of the minis in the front left may not be GW.



So for these, most of the plastic seems to be fantasy, but I can't even tell if it's all GW or not since I'm not very familiar with non-VC/TK/HE armies of the Old World. I am guessing the plastic torsos on the right are old Chaos Marauders perhaps? As for the metal, I can tell the two torsos on the back left are CSM, but what kit were they from? I don't recall any metal torsos with separate legs. My guess is Bikers since the SM had a metal upgrade kit of torsos with a single arm, but I don't know of an equivalent CSM kit. The plastic torso with legs in the middle look Tau-like, but I can't recall any kit where they're just standing straight like that.


Mostly old backpacks, but also some other bitz, such as an Ork torso I don't recognize the style of at all. I can tell the power armor backpack is CSM, but I don't remember any model or kit with a half backpack like that.


Last but not least, a random lot with a lot of weapons.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/17 04:11:49


Post by: Goreshrek


The Ork torso in the middle photo is from the old plastic warbikes. The top photo has several bits from the metal killa kan (middle bottom). Bottom photo has more dred cables and bitz.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/17 04:16:59


Post by: SergentSilver


Thanks. I had a feeling there was at least the main body of a Killa Kan in there, but I couldn't figure out the rest from everything.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/17 06:00:49


Post by: Peterhausenn


1 beastman lord on chariot

2 old chaos spawn "limbs"

3 nurglings

4 ork prospector backpack

5 looks like a fiend or steed of slaanesh, but i dont think that is what it is. i can read the second word on the tab of the mini as "beast". if you can make out the first word that is most likely the name of the mini.

6 dragon ogre body

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Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/17 06:25:56


Post by: Juxtimon


You've got a Gorkamorka Mutie raider in there, that's the weird horse and one of the metal upper bodies. Parts from a Gorkamorka Digga Truck too. In fact, there's quite a few Gorkamorka bits in there so it might benefit you to have a look through that range on Google to eliminate a bunch of stuff.

http://www.solegends.com/gorkamorka/c1999p0163-01.htm


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/17 10:42:26


Post by: Nevelon


Some of the plastic torsos are

Skaven assassins. They first came out in Mordheim.
Old plastic marauders (Still in print)
Either old chaos warriors or knights. IIRC the knights were a hybrid kit, but it’s been a while.
Spoiler:

(Note to self, take pictures of my old chaos stuff)
An eldar crewman. Probably from the Falcon kit.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/17 12:46:50


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Also, a couple of Sentinel pieces on the first pic, see here http://www.solegends.com/citcat2006us/c2006usp0305-01.htm


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/17 13:48:18


Post by: SergentSilver


Spoiler:

Peterhausenn wrote:1 beastman lord on chariot

2 old chaos spawn "limbs"

3 nurglings

4 ork prospector backpack

5 looks like a fiend or steed of slaanesh, but i dont think that is what it is. i can read the second word on the tab of the mini as "beast". if you can make out the first word that is most likely the name of the mini.

6 dragon ogre body


Juxtimon wrote:You've got a Gorkamorka Mutie raider in there, that's the weird horse and one of the metal upper bodies. Parts from a Gorkamorka Digga Truck too. In fact, there's quite a few Gorkamorka bits in there so it might benefit you to have a look through that range on Google to eliminate a bunch of stuff.

http://www.solegends.com/gorkamorka/c1999p0163-01.htm


Nevelon wrote:Some of the plastic torsos are

Skaven assassins. They first came out in Mordheim.
Old plastic marauders (Still in print)
Either old chaos warriors or knights. IIRC the knights were a hybrid kit, but it’s been a while.

(Note to self, take pictures of my old chaos stuff)
An eldar crewman. Probably from the Falcon kit.


MobileSuitRandom wrote:Also, a couple of Sentinel pieces on the first pic, see here http://www.solegends.com/citcat2006us/c2006usp0305-01.htm



Big thanks to you all! Been a massive help so far!


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/17 23:58:57


Post by: KidCthulhu


Regarding this:

Spoiler:


The upper right is an old Ork Stormboy jumppack, the wings belong to the old Dark Elf "harpies" from the late 90's before the Chris Fitzpatrick refresh of the line. The cloak next to the wings belongs to an old 80's Warhammer Vampire Count.

You have several Necromunda backpaks. Two Delaque heavy w/ flamer backpacks, one Cawdor Heavy Stubber and Goliath Autocannon backpack (under the Vampire cloak).

I also see two different 40K missionary backs packs with a tankbusta stickbomb backpack in the middle. I also see a metal Imperial Guard comms from 2nd edition (it looks like a chunky version of the one on the Catachan sprue, which you appear to have a couple of). The backpack with the hanging canteen is actually part of the scout sentinel upgrade sprue; you have some camo netting from this same sprue next to it). There's also a Marauder chieftain cloak next to those.

That Chaos Marine backpack might be the one that came with the original metal/plastic hybrid biker kit (you have a pair of metal torsos from that kit in another photo).

Next to the Mekboy backpack with the wrenches, there's the Escher Heavy Stubber backpack, the Necromunda Bounty Hunter backpack, another Goliath Autocannon backpack, and the Delaque Lascannon backpack.

EDIT: Your weapons page has a ton of Necromunda pistols (including a pristine Fanatic Press Van Saar pistol sprue and Mad Donna's plasma pistol arm!) as well arms from the 40K Khorne Juggernaut champion, the top of the Necromunda Telepath Wyrd's staff, some loincloths from the metal/plastic Dire Avenger kit, helmets & gorgets from the plastic mounted skeletons from WHFB in the 90's, braziers from the old metal VC Black Coach, a plastic plasma pistol from RT, Gorka Morka mutie saddlebags, DE Wych shoulder pads, chain/hooks from the original DE Reaver Jetbikes, Gorthor The Beastlord's back banner (next to the Khorne Fleshhound dewlap), and an arm with puppet from the Mordheim WitchHunters Zealot*

*(BTW, I need one of those if you ever want to trade; I have two of those little puppets on bases like familiars)


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/18 02:45:11


Post by: SergentSilver


 Peterhausenn wrote:

5 looks like a fiend or steed of slaanesh, but i dont think that is what it is. i can read the second word on the tab of the mini as "beast". if you can make out the first word that is most likely the name of the mini.


Unfortunately, all I can make out is "MU__ BEAST", though it looks like it might say "MUSE BEAST". It does resemble a Seeker mount.


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 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
Also, a couple of Sentinel pieces on the first pic, see here http://www.solegends.com/citcat2006us/c2006usp0305-01.htm


From that page, it looks like I have everything except the Sentinel Pilot (technically I do have multiples of this, they're just sitting on Heavy Bolter platforms xD), Sentinel Multi-Laser, and Steel Legion Sentinel Lascannon (I actually might have this from another trade, but I don't recall for sure)! Am very excited to have a complete main body of an original Sentinel! The rest that aren't in the pictures I either didn't include because I thought I knew what they were or they were from other trades.

Incidentally, this means I now have a full squad of Armored Sentinels. One NoS plastic still in the old Battleforce box from just after the plastic Command Squad came out, one newer old metal, and now one original old metal.


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 KidCthulhu wrote:
Regarding this:

Spoiler:


The upper right is an old Ork Stormboy jumppack, the wings belong to the old Dark Elf "harpies" from the late 90's before the Chris Fitzpatrick refresh of the line. The cloak next to the wings belongs to an old 80's Warhammer Vampire Count.

You have several Necromunda backpaks. Two Delaque heavy w/ flamer backpacks, one Cawdor Heavy Stubber and Goliath Autocannon backpack (under the Vampire cloak).

I also see two different 40K missionary backs packs with a tankbusta stickbomb backpack in the middle. I also see a metal Imperial Guard comms from 2nd edition (it looks like a chunky version of the one on the Catachan sprue, which you appear to have a couple of). The backpack with the hanging canteen is actually part of the scout sentinel upgrade sprue; you have some camo netting from this same sprue next to it). There's also a Marauder chieftain cloak next to those.

That Chaos Marine backpack might be the one that came with the original metal/plastic hybrid biker kit (you have a pair of metal torsos from that kit in another photo).

Next to the Mekboy backpack with the wrenches, there's the Escher Heavy Stubber backpack, the Necromunda Bounty Hunter backpack, another Goliath Autocannon backpack, and the Delaque Lascannon backpack.

EDIT: Your weapons page has a ton of Necromunda pistols (including a pristine Fanatic Press Van Saar pistol sprue and Mad Donna's plasma pistol arm!) as well arms from the 40K Khorne Juggernaut champion, the top of the Necromunda Telepath Wyrd's staff, some loincloths from the metal/plastic Dire Avenger kit, helmets & gorgets from the plastic mounted skeletons from WHFB in the 90's, braziers from the old metal VC Black Coach, a plastic plasma pistol from RT, Gorka Morka mutie saddlebags, DE Wych shoulder pads, chain/hooks from the original DE Reaver Jetbikes, Gorthor The Beastlord's back banner (next to the Khorne Fleshhound dewlap), and an arm with puppet from the Mordheim WitchHunters Zealot*

*(BTW, I need one of those if you ever want to trade; I have two of those little puppets on bases like familiars)


Thanks a bunch! This is incredibly helpful. With accurate names, I can search for the models myself and figure out what's what by the pictures in the old catalogues. And if it's the puppet arm you want, I certainly don't have any use for it other than stealing your idea. I am slightly tempted to put the whole thing on a tiny base and paint it up as a horrifying cut-off arm playing a sock-puppet familiar for Chaos, a-la Thing from The Addams Family.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/18 16:55:28


Post by: SergentSilver


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
Also, a couple of Sentinel pieces on the first pic, see here http://www.solegends.com/citcat2006us/c2006usp0305-01.htm


I was able find a bunch of stuff in the Warhammer 40,000 Classic Range! Thanks again for that link!


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/18 17:08:35


Post by: AndrewGPaul


The little pile of sandbags with the binoculars on go with those Catachan tank riders from your very first post (the seated ones, legs spread, no base tab); they came with the Leman Russ Exterminator kit in 1999:

http://gelfins-cabinet.blogspot.com/2012/04/imperial-guard-strikes-back.html

You've got the twin autocannon piece too, bottom left between armour panels for a Vindicator (go on the plastic 1st edition model bt came out in the early-mid 1990s for 2nd edition) and what look like parts for a 2nd edition Ork dreadnought.

In addition in that photo, the reptilian set of legs with no torso (top left) is from a mid 90s Dragon Ogre, I think. Under that is a Bounty Hunter from Fanatic-era Necromunda (early 2000s)

Just to the right of the Leman Russ Exterminator sandbags is the heavy stubber and backpack from a 1995 Necromunda Escher heavy.

The two legs to the right of the square wooden platform piece are from a Nexus Hellcat Strider from the Kryomek miniatures game; early 1990s but satill available from Scotia Grendel. Looks like a small ED-209.

The spider thing with the integral base is a old Ork squig from 1st edition - early 90s, possibly late 80s. That one there looks quite shiny, though - could be a leter casting.

The chap in robes with the laspistol is a Chaos cultist from late 2nd edition - 1997 or so.

Top right is the front of a 1st edition Imperial jetbike. There's another part below the Chaos CUltist and the Harpy, there's also a third part with the seat and engines but I don't see it anywhere.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/18 17:30:57


Post by: SergentSilver


 AndrewGPaul wrote:
The little pile of sandbags with the binoculars on go with those Catachan tank riders from your very first post (the seated ones, legs spread, no base tab); they came with the Leman Russ Exterminator kit in 1999:

http://gelfins-cabinet.blogspot.com/2012/04/imperial-guard-strikes-back.html

You've got the twin autocannon piece too, bottom left between armour panels for a Vindicator (go on the plastic 1st edition model bt came out in the early-mid 1990s for 2nd edition) and what look like parts for a 2nd edition Ork dreadnought.

In addition in that photo, the reptilian set of legs with no torso (top left) is from a mid 90s Dragon Ogre, I think. Under that is a Bounty Hunter from Fanatic-era Necromunda (early 2000s)

Just to the right of the Leman Russ Exterminator sandbags is the heavy stubber and backpack from a 1995 Necromunda Escher heavy.

The two legs to the right of the square wooden platform piece are from a Nexus Hellcat Strider from the Kryomek miniatures game; early 1990s but satill available from Scotia Grendel. Looks like a small ED-209.

The spider thing with the integral base is a old Ork squig from 1st edition - early 90s, possibly late 80s. That one there looks quite shiny, though - could be a leter casting.

The chap in robes with the laspistol is a Chaos cultist from late 2nd edition - 1997 or so.

Top right is the front of a 1st edition Imperial jetbike. There's another part below the Chaos CUltist and the Harpy, there's also a third part with the seat and engines but I don't see it anywhere.


Thanks! Good eyes, especially on those Kryomek legs! I was guessing they were some early Imperial robot legs, so you've saved me a lot of fruitless digging through the old catalogues on that. And that Bounty Hunter too. I didn't thank that was even Warhammer related since it's tab doesn't appear to have GW on it.


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I found the Beast and the weird torso with what looked like a Plasma gun barrel on a stick! They're a Mutie Beast and Seeker Mutie with Jezzail seen here: http://www.solegends.com/gorkamorka/c1999p0180-00.htm


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/18 18:36:56


Post by: KidCthulhu


 SergentSilver wrote:
Thanks a bunch! This is incredibly helpful. With accurate names, I can search for the models myself and figure out what's what by the pictures in the old catalogues. And if it's the puppet arm you want, I certainly don't have any use for it other than stealing your idea. I am slightly tempted to put the whole thing on a tiny base and paint it up as a horrifying cut-off arm playing a sock-puppet familiar for Chaos, a-la Thing from The Addams Family.




Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/18 18:54:09


Post by: SergentSilver


 KidCthulhu wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:
Thanks a bunch! This is incredibly helpful. With accurate names, I can search for the models myself and figure out what's what by the pictures in the old catalogues. And if it's the puppet arm you want, I certainly don't have any use for it other than stealing your idea. I am slightly tempted to put the whole thing on a tiny base and paint it up as a horrifying cut-off arm playing a sock-puppet familiar for Chaos, a-la Thing from The Addams Family.







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So a bit more out of the box. Did FW ever make yellowish resin? These look like Rengade torsos from FW, but I've only ever seen FW resin in greys.



Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/19 00:26:10


Post by: AndrewGPaul


They did, yes. I’ve some original Epic/Aeronautica Imperialis models in beige resin, and I think there might even still be some on display in the Forge World shop at Warhammer World.

Those models came out with Imperial Armour volume 5, I think - Siege of Vraks part one. A little later than I’d have thought for beige resin, but I wouldn’t rule it out.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/19 00:35:50


Post by: Snrub


Yellow FW resin isn't uncommon. I don't know if its still used though. I've got the old titan techpriest in yellow. You even see some stuff in a blue grey or even greeny grey occasionally.
But for the most part it's light/dark grey.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/19 02:03:33


Post by: SergentSilver


AndrewGPaul wrote:They did, yes. I’ve some original Epic/Aeronautica Imperialis models in beige resin, and I think there might even still be some on display in the Forge World shop at Warhammer World.

Those models came out with Imperial Armour volume 5, I think - Siege of Vraks part one. A little later than I’d have thought for beige resin, but I wouldn’t rule it out.


Snrub wrote:Yellow FW resin isn't uncommon. I don't know if its still used though. I've got the old titan techpriest in yellow. You even see some stuff in a blue grey or even greeny grey occasionally.
But for the most part it's light/dark grey.


Thanks! That's really good to know for future reference. Guess I've got a good squad of renegades to make now. Always want to do some Chaos Guard.


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/19 10:30:53


Post by: cygnnus


“ Unfortunately, all I can make out is "MU__ BEAST", though it looks like it might say "MUSE BEAST". It does resemble a Seeker mount.”

I believe you’ll find that’s “mutie beast”. That is definitely the mount for a Necromunda Mutie Raider. They may also have been reissued under the Gorkamorka line.

Valete,

JohnS


Need help identifying old minis @ 2021/09/19 10:59:42


Post by: Lord Damocles


Muties were always Gorkamorka models; released alongside the Digganob expansion.