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Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 05:42:07


Post by: Oborosen


I don't know what it is about thinking on this, but I've been going over a few items in the past few days and realized that GW has pretty much left so many in the past. That it's rather hard to come to terms with what it was that I really wanted to put up here.

Though I can think of one. Seeing as I started back to playing in 6th, after being away in the military. The very first army I picked up was a Chaos war band of Red Corsairs. With Blackheart being my first character at the time. Who was already being primed up for the release of 7th and even though I'd seen stats for his Astral Claws build. I was really interested in building a fast attack group at the time, with bikes and missile launchers. Using what little I could acquire for myself at the time and only when a hobby shop open almost an hour away. I was finaly able to actually outfit my army with some farm more powerful models.

I would love to see Huron be recast and get a stat update. Because he was such a powerful unit when it came to his Astral Claws variant and now he just seems rather gimped. Despite being a lord in his own right and supposedly Abbadon's greatest completion, besides Typhus.



Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 06:25:55


Post by: Arcanis161


As a Guard player: Rough Riders. Provides an inexpensive (compared to Kreig) Cavalry/early World War I itch whilst providing an inexpensive Fast Attack option that also gives more utility than the Turret/Blocker that current Sentinels give.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 06:29:51


Post by: Breton


Invictus is "dead" but I'd like to see rules for Agemman especially now that there is a Plasma Blaster to kit bash with.

I liked Telion better as a Scout Squad upgrade rather than an IC.

I liked the Command Squads as 1 choice that maybe didn't even cost a FOC better than as 3+ Elites FOC's that always do. Letting a Command Squad type play FOC games with Champions, Apothecaries, or (some) other Elite choice single model infantry might solve that.

Sapphon should make a comeback.

Uriel Ventris. For that matter, any "character" in a Black library Novel that would/could have an entry in the codex, should have a datasheet in the back of the novel. So the Ultramarines squads should have an entry, but the Everyman miner from the world being over run who proves his mettle but isn't a guardsman or even a squad shouldn't.

Nor should they necessarily be materially different from what you could make if you guessed right about what each person had/did or have special rules.




Automatically Appended Next Post:
One added thought, I'd like to see a new Captain Tycho. The guy "died" before the first Primaris Marine hit the field. They need a new captain that won't give people continuity headaches if he's on the field with a Primaris marine.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 06:50:41


Post by: Insectum7


Necron Pariahs
Necron Pariahs
Necron Pariahs
Necron Pariahs
Necron Pariahs


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 07:54:35


Post by: john_chandler


Another thumbs up for Rough Riders - always regretted not having some in my army back in the 90s.

Also, Squats. Seriously, WTF has happened to 40k in the last 25 years?? I bought some from Macrocosm recently and they're fantastic.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 08:19:29


Post by: Blackie


Ork cyborks!! They used to be the bodyguard for the painboy in 3rd edition, which was an HQ.

T5 1W 5++ like they were in 3rd, they could have their niche in the elites section.

Named characters like Zogworth, Wazzdakka and Nazdreg would be amazing as well and orks are currently lacking named psykers, bikers and warbosses that aren't primarch sized anyway.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 08:25:00


Post by: Breton


 Blackie wrote:
Ork cyborks!! They used to be the bodyguard for the painboy in 3rd edition, which was an HQ.

T5 1W 5++ like they were in 3rd, they could have their niche in the elites section.

Named characters like Zogworth, Wazzdakka and Nazdreg would be amazing as well and orks are currently lacking named psykers, bikers and warbosses that aren't primarch sized anyway.


Minderz! I loved the idea of two orks dragging around a Weirdboy who wanted nothing more than getting the hell out of there.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 08:28:34


Post by: Mr Morden


GW are bringing back alot of older models and even races so its a good time to hope.

Necromunda Scavs, Muties and Ratskins - seem to be all still curent in the lore going by the recent Kal Jerico novel.
All the missing Dark Elder characters
Cyborks and Cyboars would be fun
I still have my Tinboyz so that would be a bit of laugh.


Uriel Ventris. For that matter, any "character" in a Black library Novel that would/could have an entry in the codex, should have a datasheet in the back of the novel. So the Ultramarines squads should have an entry, but the Everyman miner from the world being over run who proves his mettle but isn't a guardsman or even a squad shouldn't. Nor should they necessarily be materially different from what you could make if you guessed right about what each person had/did or have special rules.


Love to see it but "no model, no rules" BS - except where it doesn;t - see Grandmaster Baby Carrier.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 09:17:02


Post by: Mixzremixzd


 Insectum7 wrote:
Necron Pariahs
Necron Pariahs
Necron Pariahs
Necron Pariahs
Necron Pariahs

Infinite yes to this! The bait n' switch of our PA was...disapointing to say the least.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 10:03:21


Post by: ccs


Well, I'll start with the 3 that affect me the most....
1) Squats - for the past 20 years my squats have been biding their time, serving as another Guard regiment in my collection. 8th though provided me the option of souping in SM to make (more) proper use of my exo-armour & bikes/trikes. One of these days though a true squat army will return....

2) I'd really like my Las/plas Razorback turrets returned.

3) Rough Riders

After that? Anything from FW that I own that doesn't currently have rules. I have some Tyranid terrain that comes to mind, but I'm sure I've got some Guard vehicles that've faded away.

I'd like to see the old crazy rules for Orks return. Once upon a time Orks had a good dose of random effects. Over the editions Orks have gotten blander & blander, suffereing mightily for it.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 10:27:55


Post by: MarkNorfolk


Just the usual suspects...Sisters of Battle, Ambull, Zoats. It'd be great if they brought Specialist Games back too....


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 10:31:46


Post by: Mixzremixzd


MarkNorfolk wrote:
Just the usual suspects...Sisters of Battle, Ambull, Zoats. It'd be great if they brought Specialist Games back too....


What specialist games haven't they brought back yet?


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 10:41:05


Post by: Dysartes


 Mixzremixzd wrote:
MarkNorfolk wrote:
Just the usual suspects...Sisters of Battle, Ambull, Zoats. It'd be great if they brought Specialist Games back too....


What specialist games haven't they brought back yet?


Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim, a proper version of Man O' War, a proper version of Epic, Warmaster, Inquisitor (at either "28mm" or the original 54mm scale).

There may be others, but those spring to mind as missing Specialist Games.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 10:42:05


Post by: Marshal Loss


I just want a proper Noise Marine kit


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 10:45:26


Post by: Overread


Tyranids - updates to the Pyrovore and Biovore into plastic (likely as a 3 models in one box duel kit)

Deathleaper and Lictor in plastic - again a duel kit with 3 in one box.

Spikerifles and such for gaunts - also a good excuse to update the gaunt sprue so that we no longer have split in half heads!!



As for models lost to the depths of time, even though I don't play them, Rough Riders! I'm still surprised GW removed and didn't replace these!


Also bring back most of those Forgeworld fantasy models that got dropped. Magama Dragon, Wolfrats, Warpfire Dragon. So many great models were lost this last Christmas :(


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 10:47:04


Post by: Nevelon


There are a lot of classic kits I’d like to see re-cut and updated, instead of having more new stuff added.

The Banshee’s were a nice start, but the other aspects need an update. They look fine, but need to be in plastic. The grav tanks could all be consolidated into one box with how they do sprues these days. Design doesn’t need to change, but the detail is soft and you tell the mold is aging.

Marine box dreadnoughts is another one. I don’t need a new potbellied overgunned dread that kills it’s pilot. Angry. Washing. Machine. Again, they could probably consolidate a number of boxes with modern tech. And if you are going to keep one kit from the non primaris range, the dread should be it from a lore perspective. Flesh and blood will either die in combat or cross the rubicon, but the walking dead endure.

Space Marine Commander. The kit is old. But it let you make your commander. Not some monopose guy that’s leading every army. with so many options. I want him updated (even if it’s to primaris) because if they bring him up to date, that would be a sign they are getting rid of the no model no rules nonsense that’s a damper on the hobby side.

There is a huge amount of finecast that just needs a port to plastic. We don’t want replacements with some new unit that does something kinda similar. We want the classics in a material that doesn’t suck.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 10:49:17


Post by: Grimtuff


MarkNorfolk wrote:
Just the usual suspects...Sisters of Battle, Ambull, Zoats. It'd be great if they brought Specialist Games back too....


I see you've just come out of your cave. Wait until you see what else 2020 has to offer...


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:11:52


Post by: Catulle


 Dysartes wrote:
 Mixzremixzd wrote:
MarkNorfolk wrote:
Just the usual suspects...Sisters of Battle, Ambull, Zoats. It'd be great if they brought Specialist Games back too....


What specialist games haven't they brought back yet?


Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim, a proper version of Man O' War, a proper version of Epic, Warmaster, Inquisitor (at either "28mm" or the original 54mm scale).

There may be others, but those spring to mind as missing Specialist Games.


*emerges from cave* Dark... Future..?


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:14:45


Post by: McMagnus Mindbullets


Berserkers. Angron. You know, lots of red angry dudes.

Can't imagine the red lads are happy that those slimy slaaneshi are likely to get stuff first either.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:17:21


Post by: Hollow


I've been thinking about this a bit lately. The reason I haven't started Orks, Guard or Eldar (again) is because of the ancient models. Especially when it comes to troops. Why oh why can't GW just do a full set of infantry boxes like the Necromunda sets for the main guard regiments? Or get the damned Pheonix Lords and Aspect warriors updated. Some of those models are more than a quarter of a century-old!!!


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:17:28


Post by: FrozenDwarf


 Marshal Loss wrote:
I just want a proper Noise Marine kit


this.

A fleshed out noise marine model line. I am not a chaos supporter, but i would get, say 500-750p of noise marines if they existed. a few 3rd party models exists i know, but you know GW; if it aint made by us, dont eve think about it


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:23:01


Post by: Oborosen


 Marshal Loss wrote:
I just want a proper Noise Marine kit


Yes! Or at least a damn upgrade kit that we can get, like back with the space wolves, or vanguard selections.

Hell, I'm going to make an addendum to my thread.

I want to see Defilers get their specific upgrades.

Debasers, Slaughterfiends, Deceivers and Desecrators.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:30:15


Post by: Breton


 Oborosen wrote:
 Marshal Loss wrote:
I just want a proper Noise Marine kit


Yes! Or at least a damn upgrade kit that we can get, like back with the space wolves, or vanguard selections.

Hell, I'm going to make an addendum to my thread.

I want to see Defilers get their specific upgrades.

Debasers, Slaughterfiends, Deceivers and Desecrators.


There is a small noise marine kit. But probably not big enough.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:30:45


Post by: Oborosen


 McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:
Berserkers. Angron. You know, lots of red angry dudes.

Can't imagine the red lads are happy that those slimy slaaneshi are likely to get stuff first either.


I think it's because GW wants to pass off their AOS merchandise as some form of upgrade, or direct conversion kit. Because that's all that I've ever seen run as possible Berserker units.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:31:00


Post by: wuestenfux


Necron Pariahs
Dread with dual autocannons
Archon and Haemi on jetbike / scateboard
Autarch with reaper launcher


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:32:54


Post by: amazingturtles


I'd kind of like to see plastic versions of any guard regiment other than cadians or catachans. My personal preference would be for tallarn, but really, any of them!


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:35:36


Post by: Oborosen


 Hollow wrote:
I've been thinking about this a bit lately. The reason I haven't started Orks, Guard or Eldar (again) is because of the ancient models. Especially when it comes to troops. Why oh why can't GW just do a full set of infantry boxes like the Necromunda sets for the main guard regiments? Or get the damned Pheonix Lords and Aspect warriors updated. Some of those models are more than a quarter of a century-old!!!


That's a nice idea. Imagine going out and picking up a box of guardsman, that numbers more than 20, or at least has some more reasonable options.
When GW started popping out 5 man boxes of Cultist and Guard. My first thought was that it was an extremely unnecessary move... and stupid.

Who want's to buy a box that contains only a partial measure of your squad?
Doubly so for cultist. Especially when you could have over 40 units in a squad.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 11:50:46


Post by: Statistx


I just want a good, high quality Lucius to be honest. The one on the GW site is outdated and I've seen an awesome conversion that looks like it would fit right into the primarch series from FW


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 13:02:01


Post by: harlokin


Archon/Succubus/Haemonculus on Bike/Skyboard
Kheradruakh The Decapitator
Duke Sliscus
Plastic Urien Rakarth
Plastic Mandrakes (with new sculpts)
Plastic Grotesques
Plastic Lhamaen


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 13:35:32


Post by: Gadzilla666


Marshal Loss wrote:I just want a proper Noise Marine kit


McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:Berserkers. Angron. You know, lots of red angry dudes.

Can't imagine the red lads are happy that those slimy slaaneshi are likely to get stuff first either.

Yes, give the remaining Chaos God devoted Legions their favored troops in modern sculpts.

And then something for the Undivided Legions: give us Chosen. Make them look like true Veterans of The Long War, not renegades who just signed up to the Black Legion last week. Put them in Mark III, IV, and V armour, maybe even Mark II. Make them look like ancient warriors, whose armour is stained with the blood of a thousand worlds, who have sailed the seas of hell, who saw the Gates of Terra shake before them. Give us True Legionnaires!

And, of course, give them conversion kits for each of the Undivided Legions.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 13:39:38


Post by: Jack Flask


Someone posted this Rogue Trader era picture in a thread a few weeks ago and now I want jump pack guardsmen back...


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 14:10:29


Post by: Super Ready


I'll second the Noise Marines. I never liked the upgr- ...upg- ...u-
Nope. Can't say it.
I never liked the DOWNgrade kit they got, so as far as I'm concerned they haven't had models since the awesome 2nd ed metals (the recent "reboot" mini is amazing, but hardly usable for an entire squad).



Jack Flask wrote:Someone posted this Rogue Trader era picture in a thread a few weeks ago and now I want jump pack guardsmen back...

Hah! I love the visual. Not sure how viable that'd be on the tabletop, though. They'd be more expensive than your average Guardsman, but still with just lasguns... hmm. Maybe jump-pack Tempestus Scions, or similar...?


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 14:20:29


Post by: Breton


 Super Ready wrote:

Hah! I love the visual. Not sure how viable that'd be on the tabletop, though. They'd be more expensive than your average Guardsman, but still with just lasguns... hmm. Maybe jump-pack Tempestus Scions, or similar...?


Dual Las Pistols actually.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 14:58:00


Post by: Sherrypie


Breton wrote:
 Super Ready wrote:

Hah! I love the visual. Not sure how viable that'd be on the tabletop, though. They'd be more expensive than your average Guardsman, but still with just lasguns... hmm. Maybe jump-pack Tempestus Scions, or similar...?


Dual Las Pistols actually.


The guy at the back clearly also has a plasmagun.

Besides, Guard don't need jump packs as long as their officers can shout at normal troopers to run faster than aircraft


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 16:51:56


Post by: Fictional


I just want the return of the RT era guardsmen, especially the officers.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 17:17:00


Post by: epronovost


Imperial Guard Rough Riders and snipers. The varient tanks of the Basilisk. An autocannon sporting varient to the Chimera. Plastic Vostroyans (new Cadians and Catashans too). Actual models for veteran Cadians, Catashans and Vostroyans.

Eldar Aspect Warriors besides Banshees and Dire Avengers. A couple more option on the Autarch would be nice. New Warlocks.

Mandrakes and Grotesques in plastic. Lamean squad in plastic. New beastmaster and beasts. Archons with wings or skyboards. Succubus with jebikes or skyboards. Homonculus with wings. Hekatrix and Kabalite True Born models. New Lelith, new duke Slyskus, new Dais of Destruction and Vect, Lady Malys, new Urien Rakarth

T'au Honor Guards, New Aun-Shi. New Kroot Carnovores, Hounds, Krootox and Shappers. Drone Controller Tank. Far'Sight Enclave only close combat battlesuits. Plastic Vespid.

Lictor and deathleapers in plastic, Provores and Biovores in plastic. New Raveners. Shrikes. Plastic Dimachaeron, flying ripper swarms, close combat gargoyles variant.

Scar Boys, Cyborks, looted tank, a warboss and big boss option, tank bustas and kommandos in plastic, new weidboy, new models for Grotsnik, Nazdreg, Badrukk, Wazzdakka and Zoggworth.

Necron Pariah (I was pretty darn surprised that they didn't return during psychic awakenning).

Genestealer Ork hybrid (big, tanky, heavy weapon kinda guys), Genestealer Eldar hybrid (Kerrigan in 40K), Genestealer Tau hybrid (winged scouts).

New Khorne Berserkers, Noise Marines, new Lucius the Eternal. New obliterators available alone, new possessed marines available alone (and as replacements for the old ones), Venomcrawler (alone), Master of Possession (alone), new mutilators.

A Sister of Battle Predator-like tank, Sister of Battle Honor Guard, new Crusader and Deathcult Assassins, new preachers, frateris militia, Sniper Sisters, Sister of Battle cavalry/bike.

Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarii commander, Skitarii Legionnaires (more basic Skitarii), heavily armored Skitarii, longg range artillery tank







Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 22:20:01


Post by: Slayer6


1. Lord Commander Solar Macharius


2. Griffon Mortar Carriers


3. Captain Cortez


4. Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub


5. Colonel Schaeffer's Last Chancers


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/05 23:07:09


Post by: Blndmage


 Blackie wrote:
Ork cyborks!! They used to be the bodyguard for the painboy in 3rd edition, which was an HQ.

T5 1W 5++ like they were in 3rd, they could have their niche in the elites section.

Named characters like Zogworth, Wazzdakka and Nazdreg would be amazing as well and orks are currently lacking named psykers, bikers and warbosses that aren't primarch sized anyway.


I think in 4th, or 5th, I ran Cybork Grots, they cost a fortune, but I LOVED my grot army.
When I came back in 8th, my list was gone, I wound up selling over 200 2ed grots for grocery money.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/06 02:51:09


Post by: Oborosen


 amazingturtles wrote:
I'd kind of like to see plastic versions of any guard regiment other than cadians or catachans. My personal preference would be for tallarn, but really, any of them!


Give me some chem dogs and I'd be right there with you.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/06 03:02:56


Post by: Racerguy180


Marshal Loss wrote:I just want a proper Noise Marine kit

with D-Rock playing everytime they hit the tabletop

ccs wrote:Well, I'll start with the 3 that affect me the most....
1) Squats - for the past 20 years my squats have been biding their time, serving as another Guard regiment in my collection. 8th though provided me the option of souping in SM to make (more) proper use of my exo-armour & bikes/trikes. One of these days though a true squat army will return....


yes, yes yes and more yes.
Catulle wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Mixzremixzd wrote:
MarkNorfolk wrote:
Just the usual suspects...Sisters of Battle, Ambull, Zoats. It'd be great if they brought Specialist Games back too....


What specialist games haven't they brought back yet?


Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim, a proper version of Man O' War, a proper version of Epic, Warmaster, Inquisitor (at either "28mm" or the original 54mm scale).

There may be others, but those spring to mind as missing Specialist Games.


*emerges from cave* Dark... Future..?


wait, isnt dark future just current events?


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/06 03:44:34


Post by: NinthMusketeer


A grimdark fictional setting rapidly becomes less appealing as reality becomes more grimdark. And grimderp, for that matter.


Anyways, I am waiting for the plastic obliterator/multilator dual kit.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/06 23:09:49


Post by: macluvin


As a chaos player, I second Noise marines and berserkers. Also noise termis, noise bikes, HQ’s on bikes, and Doomrider...


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 00:32:41


Post by: Super Ready


macluvin wrote:
As a chaos player, I second Noise marines and berserkers. Also noise termis, noise bikes, HQ’s on bikes, and Doomrider...

...Noise... bikes...?



NOISE BIKES WERE A THING?! Man, did I miss a lot with what I assume is that 3.5 Codex I keep hearing about. I can only imagine the speaker systems.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 00:54:31


Post by: H.B.M.C.


epronovost wrote:
New Raveners.
Umm... why?


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 01:24:27


Post by: epronovost


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
epronovost wrote:
New Raveners.
Umm... why?


The Raveners are starting to look older than the Tyranid Warriors which has been updated, plus it would make sense to use Raveners to make the missing Shrikes a unit that I still can't believe GW hasn't produced outside of FW.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 01:37:40


Post by: Argive


Ugh... where do I start for my guys

Too soon....


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 01:38:40


Post by: cody.d.


Some of the ork superheavies from Epic would be wonderful to see in 40K. So many fun, silly options that would let them fill the heavy vehicle gap that's currently in the ork lineup. If they're dead set on making the stompa garbage.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 03:16:15


Post by: DarknessEternal


All of the Phoenix Lords.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 04:46:22


Post by: Breton


I don't know if I've mentioned it yet, but it keeps rattling in the back of my brain.

The named BA Captain. It's been a posthumous Tycho for a long time. He fluff died in one of the Wars for Armageddon. Before the first Primaris hit. I think we've changed army badges, and Primaris are out now. It's time to give them a fluffy living breathing captain.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 05:10:24


Post by: Voss


Cyboar riders.

Too long to list all the things in finecast (or missing) from Eldar and Dark Eldar.



epronovost wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
epronovost wrote:
New Raveners.
Umm... why?


The Raveners are starting to look older than the Tyranid Warriors which has been updated, plus it would make sense to use Raveners to make the missing Shrikes a unit that I still can't believe GW hasn't produced outside of FW.


Wait... huh. That _is_ a different warrior kit, with a prime. When did that even happen?
I honestly have no memory of that being released.

That said, the difference between the new warriors and the raveners (or the old warriors) is not very much. Mostly just a super crappy paint job.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 12:52:25


Post by: Statistx


epronovost wrote:
New obliterators available alone, new possessed marines available alone, Venomcrawler (alone), Master of Possession (alone), new mutilators.


I mean those are a given...box exclusive minis are the worst business practice ever.
I'm still waiting for those 3 big chunky boys from the Kill Team Rogue Trader and the Chaos Ogryn from Blackstone Fortress Traitor Guard sets, as there is nothing comparable out there.
I also only bought the CSM start collecting box BECAUSE of the exclusives, even though it turns out that I am happy with the whole purchase, but that is a coincidence and wouldn't apply to the other mentioned boxes here.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 13:31:36


Post by: Gene St. Ealer


Speaking of Nids, I'm going to give a controversial one -- upscaled Hive Tyrants/Carnifexes. Those two models are incredibly iconic and bada** staples of the army, and size creep has left them looking less intimidating than they should. I guess I'd be okay if they kept the scale the same, but amped them up in the rules... either way, both need to be truly frightening.

Then of course, there are some Nids with perfectly beautiful sculpts that are nowhere near as scary as they need to be... but we don't need to talk about that...


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 14:45:15


Post by: Karol


I think it would be nice to see update in size termintor models. But other armies need their stuff update more, so I am in no rush for new stuff.

if GW made a personal teleporter interceptor character, it would be really cool, but for that GW would need 2 years developing it and making a new GK codex .


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 16:51:15


Post by: some bloke


For Orks:

Looted wagons. I want russes, I want grav-tanks, i want all of 'em! It would be perfectly sensible to let them run as orks, for the same points, with ork ballistic skill and no special rules. sell more codexes, get more cool ork models, it's all winning.

Battlefortresses. Again, GW's sales team obviously didn't notice the drop in sales for baneblades when Orks lost their skullhammas, battlefortesses and the like. seriously guys, Ork players will build it all out of your kits anyway, just give us some rules!

Stompas need a hefty price adjustment and rules going-over.

Squigs, Squiggoths, and all the other lovely monsters! Orks should be breeding the biggest, scariest beasties from any world they find, and using it to kill dem 'oomies! I'd love to see a Feral Orks section for Orks which would add some squiggoth variants, and maybe some other beasties being ridden, Ork Dok Experiments of modified Orks. Perhaps call it an "Ork Outkasts" supplement with mad doks, deranged meks, cyborks, squigoths, cybork squiggoths, super-orks, etc.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 17:09:15


Post by: Overread


 Gene St. Ealer wrote:
Speaking of Nids, I'm going to give a controversial one -- upscaled Hive Tyrants/Carnifexes. Those two models are incredibly iconic and bada** staples of the army, and size creep has left them looking less intimidating than they should. I guess I'd be okay if they kept the scale the same, but amped them up in the rules... either way, both need to be truly frightening.

Then of course, there are some Nids with perfectly beautiful sculpts that are nowhere near as scary as they need to be... but we don't need to talk about that...



I don't really want to see upscaled - Tyranids are a nightmare to pack as it is with all the big things

That said one thing I do see as a potential opening for future revamps of the Tyranids is the size of arms and limbs. I've really noticed how chunky scything talons and such are. Compared to many blades and swords from other races the Tyranids are running around with railroad metal rather than scything blades. I could see them get a huge reworking whereby Gaunts become thinner and more, well, gaunt; whilst some of the more chunky would then appear properly "thick and big" without even much of a size update.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 17:32:28


Post by: Super Ready


Personally I reckon Hive Tyrants and Carnifexes SHOULD get a size boost. But I'd be happy to see other things like Exocrines or Haruspexs shrink to counter it.
As mentioned, they really should be the scariest things the force can put on the table.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 17:39:36


Post by: Dysartes


 Super Ready wrote:
Personally I reckon Hive Tyrants and Carnifexes SHOULD get a size boost. But I'd be happy to see other things like Exocrines or Haruspexs shrink to counter it.
As mentioned, they really should be the scariest things the force can put on the table.


This might be my bias to old Epic scale showing, but I disagree - Exocrines and Haruspex were larger than both the 'fex and the Tyrant back in t'day, and should stay that way.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 17:42:48


Post by: Voss


Pretty happy with the Tyrant's size myself. For the carnifex, the size isn't really the issue, its more the pose and overall look.

Its time to accept that its a bottom-tier monster, so should be one of the smaller ones. But the current design is... eh. Though a lot of the newer designs are worse, imo. GW rarely makes tentacles and squiggly bits that aren't giggle-worthy.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 18:03:27


Post by: Overread


 Dysartes wrote:
 Super Ready wrote:
Personally I reckon Hive Tyrants and Carnifexes SHOULD get a size boost. But I'd be happy to see other things like Exocrines or Haruspexs shrink to counter it.
As mentioned, they really should be the scariest things the force can put on the table.


This might be my bias to old Epic scale showing, but I disagree - Exocrines and Haruspex were larger than both the 'fex and the Tyrant back in t'day, and should stay that way.


I agree, the Carnifex used to be the biggest, but then again the Dreadnought also used to be the biggest. I don't think they need scaling up because we already have those bigger things. Instead we have two models that are smaller, but shine because they can be jacks of any trade rather than the bigger beasts that tend to specialise far more so.

When you put a fex on the table people fear it; but they should be cowering when you put an exocrine or haurspex down.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 18:40:20


Post by: NinthMusketeer


I love the size of my Hive Tyrant right now, it fits into the image of a compact, extremely dangerous, commander figure that 'lurks' on the battlefield but is still monstrous enough to rip a man apart without a second thought. Stuff that gets big starts to feel more brutish.

Also, bigger size means bigger base, probably more powerful melee weapons and wounds count. It would be harder to maneuver and cost more points.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 18:40:36


Post by: epronovost


 Overread wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Super Ready wrote:
Personally I reckon Hive Tyrants and Carnifexes SHOULD get a size boost. But I'd be happy to see other things like Exocrines or Haruspexs shrink to counter it.
As mentioned, they really should be the scariest things the force can put on the table.


This might be my bias to old Epic scale showing, but I disagree - Exocrines and Haruspex were larger than both the 'fex and the Tyrant back in t'day, and should stay that way.


I agree, the Carnifex used to be the biggest, but then again the Dreadnought also used to be the biggest. I don't think they need scaling up because we already have those bigger things. Instead we have two models that are smaller, but shine because they can be jacks of any trade rather than the bigger beasts that tend to specialise far more so.

When you put a fex on the table people fear it; but they should be cowering when you put an exocrine or haurspex down.


How about this. Keep the current Tyranid monster at their level, but included a new "pimaris carnifex" to serve as a larger, size brute-style close combat monster.We could even re-use the term Screemer-Killer for these.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 18:46:00


Post by: Overread


epronovost wrote:
 Overread wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Super Ready wrote:
Personally I reckon Hive Tyrants and Carnifexes SHOULD get a size boost. But I'd be happy to see other things like Exocrines or Haruspexs shrink to counter it.
As mentioned, they really should be the scariest things the force can put on the table.


This might be my bias to old Epic scale showing, but I disagree - Exocrines and Haruspex were larger than both the 'fex and the Tyrant back in t'day, and should stay that way.


I agree, the Carnifex used to be the biggest, but then again the Dreadnought also used to be the biggest. I don't think they need scaling up because we already have those bigger things. Instead we have two models that are smaller, but shine because they can be jacks of any trade rather than the bigger beasts that tend to specialise far more so.

When you put a fex on the table people fear it; but they should be cowering when you put an exocrine or haurspex down.


How about this. Keep the current Tyranid monster at their level, but included a new "pimaris carnifex" to serve as a larger, size brute-style close combat monster.We could even re-use the term Screemer-Killer for these.


But we have those already.
Haurspex, Exoctine, Malceptor, Toxicrene, Ravener etc....
Those are the big "primaris" style upgrades of the carnifex. Granted they sacrifice some of its versatility for a more focused weapon loadout, but they offer bigger size and more power. If you push the Carny into that realm too then one of the two has to take a step out - either the specialists or the generalist. Otherwise its needless duplication.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 19:05:16


Post by: Insectum7


 Overread wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Super Ready wrote:
Personally I reckon Hive Tyrants and Carnifexes SHOULD get a size boost. But I'd be happy to see other things like Exocrines or Haruspexs shrink to counter it.
As mentioned, they really should be the scariest things the force can put on the table.


This might be my bias to old Epic scale showing, but I disagree - Exocrines and Haruspex were larger than both the 'fex and the Tyrant back in t'day, and should stay that way.


I agree, the Carnifex used to be the biggest, but then again the Dreadnought also used to be the biggest. I don't think they need scaling up because we already have those bigger things. Instead we have two models that are smaller, but shine because they can be jacks of any trade rather than the bigger beasts that tend to specialise far more so.

When you put a fex on the table people fear it; but they should be cowering when you put an exocrine or haurspex down.
Back when the Carnifex was the "biggest", it was the Land Raider that was the "biggest". The Dreadnought was great though.

Imo the Carnifex isn't scary enough. But that doesn't require a model change, just a stat/ability boost. Make it T8, 2+ 10+W and S8. Add an optional regeneration ability and then we're getting somewhere.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 19:12:28


Post by: a fat guy


I'd like to see all of the finecast replaced with pewter again, I keep having to rely on Ebay for the cooler parts of my secondary armies (Kommandos and Tankbusts come to mind). If I ever collect an Eldar army, I reckon it'll mostly be secondhand from Ebay

The Juan Diaz Daemons all look much better than all of the current lesser Daemon models, though those models are much more customizable nowadays. If we could get the Diaz models in plastic with posable waists, arms and heads that would be awesome.

Also most of the Forgeworld OOP stuff should come back too, but that'll never happen.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 19:41:13


Post by: Super Ready


a fat guy wrote:
The Juan Diaz Daemons all look much better than all of the current lesser Daemon models, though those models are much more customizable nowadays. If we could get the Diaz models in plastic with posable waists, arms and heads that would be awesome.

Seconded and thirded, by virtue of my extra limbs.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 19:47:58


Post by: Amishprn86


Drukhari

All named Characters that were taken away and gear/upgrades for current characters and units that were taken away.


Corsairs

Just give me 7th book and rules (it was already built in 7th with Detachments and traits, 8th/9th was built off of Corsairs for crying out loud!)


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 20:43:48


Post by: Segersgia


One of the main thing I really want to see updated is the size of Ork Nobz/MegaNobz and Warbosses.

It is kind of sad to see Primaris being bigger than a Warboss, who should be a 3 metre tall monstrosity.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 20:52:54


Post by: Not Online!!!


Too early to ask for that plastic r&h? And rules?


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 21:23:42


Post by: epronovost


Not Online!!! wrote:
Too early to ask for that plastic r&h? And rules?


That's indeed sadly missing and would awesome.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/07 21:41:43


Post by: catbarf


IMO there's nothing wrong with the size of the Carnifex model, it just needs better rules. A couple of attacks at S6 is nothing compared to the your-tank-dies-instantly mangling that the Carnifex of old could dish out. It's still a plenty chunky model; if you want a LoW or Knight equivalent, that's what the Hierodule is for.

Another vote here for the return of Rough Riders. It was another choice to help break up the monotony of Guard, added a rare melee option, rounded out the Fast Attack slot (seriously, Hellhound variants and Sentinel variants is not a lot of variety), and was a nice option for infantry-focused armies.

Also, it might not be what OP is after, but I'd love to see a return of Lost And The Damned or Renegades & Heretics. They were both fun lists that provided the sorely-missing 'Chaos minions' force.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 00:28:49


Post by: Gadzilla666


Not Online!!! wrote:
Too early to ask for that plastic r&h? And rules?

No, it isn't. We should have been asking for all of 8th . Maybe if we had been plastic models we would still have rules for our armies.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 03:14:05


Post by: jeff white


Noise marines as above specified seem a good answer.

Maybe updated OG marines, specifically a new multipart beaky kit.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 03:26:43


Post by: Insectum7


 jeff white wrote:

Maybe updated OG marines, specifically a new multipart beaky kit.
I hope for that with the inner core of my soul.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 07:57:59


Post by: Dolnikan


I have to confess that I'm actually a bit scared of rules updates to existing minis because that will probably lead to more monopose and higher prices. And especially for more horde-y units, that will look awful with a dozen of the same guy/gribbly in the same dynamic pose.

But we do need our Rough Riders back!


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 11:06:55


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


 Dysartes wrote:
 Mixzremixzd wrote:
MarkNorfolk wrote:
Just the usual suspects...Sisters of Battle, Ambull, Zoats. It'd be great if they brought Specialist Games back too....


What specialist games haven't they brought back yet?


Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim, a proper version of Man O' War, a proper version of Epic, Warmaster, Inquisitor (at either "28mm" or the original 54mm scale).

There may be others, but those spring to mind as missing Specialist Games.

You forgot Dreadfleet. Don't worry, everyone else did too. I only remembered it because I still have a Dreadfleet poster I got for free .


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 11:20:33


Post by: Dysartes


I was thinking of Dreadfleet as a one-and-done boxed set, rather than a full-fledged Specialist Game with expansions. I mean, I didn't include Space Hulk, which would fall into the same category (though I want an expansion for it with the WD campaigns from when I first started with GW, so ~WD190 and onwards).

I did miss Gorkamorka, though you can argue that's a variant setting for Necromunda.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 12:15:31


Post by: Overread


Dreadfleet made me sad that we could see that GW could do some outstanding ships, but wasn't willing to do it more than a single boxed game.

Now if they brought out a Man O War AOS that would be fantastic!


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 12:29:06


Post by: Arbitrator


Karskin.
Pariahs.

I never used Rough Riders but they're obviously popular among Guard players so I'll put a vote in for them anyway.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 12:29:34


Post by: vipoid


 Amishprn86 wrote:
Drukhari

All named Characters that were taken away and gear/upgrades for current characters and units that were taken away.


Corsairs

Just give me 7th book and rules (it was already built in 7th with Detachments and traits, 8th/9th was built off of Corsairs for crying out loud!)


So much this.

I know GW are lazy, but surely even they can stretch to 'Ctrl+C', 'Ctrl+V'.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 13:46:37


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


 Dysartes wrote:
I was thinking of Dreadfleet as a one-and-done boxed set, rather than a full-fledged Specialist Game with expansions.

My bad then.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 13:51:02


Post by: Not Online!!!


 vipoid wrote:
 Amishprn86 wrote:
Drukhari

All named Characters that were taken away and gear/upgrades for current characters and units that were taken away.


Corsairs

Just give me 7th book and rules (it was already built in 7th with Detachments and traits, 8th/9th was built off of Corsairs for crying out loud!)


So much this.

I know GW are lazy, but surely even they can stretch to 'Ctrl+C', 'Ctrl+V'.


meh as someone that rewrote the R&H index.. it's a bit more then that, and some fringe occaisons need to be looked at for balance reasons, but it'd be a job of about 2 days tops, in ruleswriting and about a week of dedicated playtesting?


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 14:22:03


Post by: Mr Morden


 Jack Flask wrote:
Someone posted this Rogue Trader era picture in a thread a few weeks ago and now I want jump pack guardsmen back...


Nearly there



It shows how the diversity of the Guard on the actual table has been reduced so much even as the opposite happens in the lore.



Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 15:35:14


Post by: Dysartes


 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I was thinking of Dreadfleet as a one-and-done boxed set, rather than a full-fledged Specialist Game with expansions.

My bad then.

Hey, different people have different views of what would be a Specialist Game - no harm, no fowl.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 15:53:22


Post by: Archebius


 amazingturtles wrote:
I'd kind of like to see plastic versions of any guard regiment other than cadians or catachans. My personal preference would be for tallarn, but really, any of them!

I'll second this. I'd love to see a bunch of new plastic guard.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/08 19:44:22


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Katherine


Medusa Siege gun. Specifically, the discontinued one that wasn't Armageddon pattern and had a short version of the basilisk gun shield.

Also, the colossus and griffin.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/10 14:10:10


Post by: Statistx


I want a female Tech Dominus/Domina?
I only saw kitbashs of that and I know from the Horus Heresy Novels that there are female ones, so they can't even pull the old "The emperor didn't make females of that" explanation.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/10 14:36:30


Post by: vipoid


Statistx wrote:
I want a female Tech Dominus/Domina?




How would you even tell?


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/10 14:41:30


Post by: FezzikDaBullgryn


I want to get an actual "Sniper" unit in the game that isn't an assassin. Give the IG sniper rifle S6 and make it D2 damage, with character targeting rules. The SM sniper rifles are already d3 or d3 depending on the type, and have character targeting. Hell, make it a strat. But I would love for my Tanith themed Sniper Teams with Larkin to be viable for once, and I think S6 guns with character targeting would be great.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/10 14:49:59


Post by: VladimirHerzog


 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I want to get an actual "Sniper" unit in the game that isn't an assassin. Give the IG sniper rifle S6 and make it D2 damage, with character targeting rules. The SM sniper rifles are already d3 or d3 depending on the type, and have character targeting. Hell, make it a strat. But I would love for my Tanith themed Sniper Teams with Larkin to be viable for once, and I think S6 guns with character targeting would be great.



Admech has transuranic arquebuses as a real sniper unit (7 -2 D3). Its a shame they can move and shoot.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/10 17:09:27


Post by: godardc


 Oborosen wrote:
I don't know what it is about thinking on this, but I've been going over a few items in the past few days and realized that GW has pretty much left so many in the past. That it's rather hard to come to terms with what it was that I really wanted to put up here.

Though I can think of one. Seeing as I started back to playing in 6th, after being away in the military. The very first army I picked up was a Chaos war band of Red Corsairs. With Blackheart being my first character at the time. Who was already being primed up for the release of 7th and even though I'd seen stats for his Astral Claws build. I was really interested in building a fast attack group at the time, with bikes and missile launchers. Using what little I could acquire for myself at the time and only when a hobby shop open almost an hour away. I was finaly able to actually outfit my army with some farm more powerful models.

I would love to see Huron be recast and get a stat update. Because he was such a powerful unit when it came to his Astral Claws variant and now he just seems rather gimped. Despite being a lord in his own right and supposedly Abbadon's greatest completion, besides Typhus.



Tbh Huron's model wasn't even great when he was released si I understand it didn't age well... compared to the sweet FW Huron that is as beautiful as ever.

Otherwise Pariah necrons, obviously.
And elysian guards.
BATTLEFLEET GOTHIC !!!
There have been lots of good calls already


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/10 18:17:27


Post by: generalchaos34


Ill second rough riders. They could even be cheap and base it on the Genestealer motorbike unit.

For me I would love to have a big multiguard greatcoat kit. Based on the amazing Battle Sisters box I can definitely see them making a greatcoat infantry box with heads for Steel Legion, Valhallans, and Vostroyans with lots of weapons.

Additionally you could EASILY make a new box for basic infantry that is Cadian based that can have alternate heads for a new regiment or even one with simpler body needs (like tallarn, I.E. a head with scarf that goes over the shoulders lego style) as well as Veterans heads and weapon options.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/10 20:45:23


Post by: FezzikDaBullgryn


 VladimirHerzog wrote:
 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I want to get an actual "Sniper" unit in the game that isn't an assassin. Give the IG sniper rifle S6 and make it D2 damage, with character targeting rules. The SM sniper rifles are already d3 or d3 depending on the type, and have character targeting. Hell, make it a strat. But I would love for my Tanith themed Sniper Teams with Larkin to be viable for once, and I think S6 guns with character targeting would be great.



Admech has transuranic arquebuses as a real sniper unit (7 -2 D3). Its a shame they can move and shoot.


My only problem with them is they don't have character Targeting. Let me just say this, I wish it was easier to Role-play a character sniper in game.

Honestly, I play Custodes, and the only unit in a faction of literal tactical and strategic geniuses that can shoot a character is the Terminators. Somehow Valarian and Trajaan missed out on the lesson where shooting the guy with the big shiny rank and silly hat turns the table of the fight drastically. Hell, shouldn't every "Elite" be able to snipe important characters? I hate how for some reason the 9 foot ork shouting orders to the relatively smaller orks is somehow not targetable unless you kill every ork in the vicinity.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/10 22:24:33


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Katherine


 VladimirHerzog wrote:
 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I want to get an actual "Sniper" unit in the game that isn't an assassin. Give the IG sniper rifle S6 and make it D2 damage, with character targeting rules. The SM sniper rifles are already d3 or d3 depending on the type, and have character targeting. Hell, make it a strat. But I would love for my Tanith themed Sniper Teams with Larkin to be viable for once, and I think S6 guns with character targeting would be great.



Admech has transuranic arquebuses as a real sniper unit (7 -2 D3). Its a shame they can move and shoot.


Those are more of an antimateriel rifle than a sniper rifle.

Anyway, the problem with sniper rifles is probably a problem with characters. Because of character's general profiles of having a lot of wound, a weapon that can kill a character is also a pretty good AT weapon.

I think that if we want to see effective sniper team units, there'd have to be a serious look at the relationship the game has with hero units first.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/11 00:06:32


Post by: Slayer6


 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
 VladimirHerzog wrote:
 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I want to get an actual "Sniper" unit in the game that isn't an assassin. Give the IG sniper rifle S6 and make it D2 damage, with character targeting rules. The SM sniper rifles are already d3 or d3 depending on the type, and have character targeting. Hell, make it a strat. But I would love for my Tanith themed Sniper Teams with Larkin to be viable for once, and I think S6 guns with character targeting would be great.



Admech has transuranic arquebuses as a real sniper unit (7 -2 D3). Its a shame they can move and shoot.


Those are more of an antimateriel rifle than a sniper rifle.

Anyway, the problem with sniper rifles is probably a problem with characters. Because of character's general profiles of having a lot of wound, a weapon that can kill a character is also a pretty good AT weapon.

I think that if we want to see effective sniper team units, there'd have to be a serious look at the relationship the game has with hero units first.


One of my cousins has his entire Cadian force use Sniper Rifles as their Special Weapon, so:
Infantry Squad - Sergeant with Laspistol, 6 Lasguns, Sniper Rifle, Heavy Weapons team.
Special Weapons Squad - 3 Lasguns, 3 Sniper Rifles
Command Squad - 4 Sniper Rifles
Veterans - Sergeant with Laspistol, 3 Sniper Rifles, Heavy Weapons team

You know how irritating it is to play against all those damn Sniper Rifles? Especially if they reroll 1's with the Cadian trait (and the squads with 3 or more getting ordered: Take Aim! to get full hit rerolls).

For a 2pt upgrade they sure are paying for themselves easily!


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/11 01:34:08


Post by: Blndmage


 Slayer6 wrote:
 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
 VladimirHerzog wrote:
 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I want to get an actual "Sniper" unit in the game that isn't an assassin. Give the IG sniper rifle S6 and make it D2 damage, with character targeting rules. The SM sniper rifles are already d3 or d3 depending on the type, and have character targeting. Hell, make it a strat. But I would love for my Tanith themed Sniper Teams with Larkin to be viable for once, and I think S6 guns with character targeting would be great.



Admech has transuranic arquebuses as a real sniper unit (7 -2 D3). Its a shame they can move and shoot.


Those are more of an antimateriel rifle than a sniper rifle.

Anyway, the problem with sniper rifles is probably a problem with characters. Because of character's general profiles of having a lot of wound, a weapon that can kill a character is also a pretty good AT weapon.

I think that if we want to see effective sniper team units, there'd have to be a serious look at the relationship the game has with hero units first.


One of my cousins has his entire Cadian force use Sniper Rifles as their Special Weapon, so:
Infantry Squad - Sergeant with Laspistol, 6 Lasguns, Sniper Rifle, Heavy Weapons team.
Special Weapons Squad - 3 Lasguns, 3 Sniper Rifles
Command Squad - 4 Sniper Rifles
Veterans - Sergeant with Laspistol, 3 Sniper Rifles, Heavy Weapons team

You know how irritating it is to play against all those damn Sniper Rifles? Especially if they reroll 1's with the Cadian trait (and the squads with 3 or more getting ordered: Take Aim! to get full hit rerolls).

For a 2pt upgrade they sure are paying for themselves easily!


I wanna run that, but swapping sniper rifles for flamers, loaded up in Chimeras with max flamers.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/11 03:16:43


Post by: fraser1191


My answer is and will always be Cato Sicarius.

The resin one is awesome, main reason I chose Ultramarines. I've gotten a lot better at painting since I picked him up originally and I'd love to get a newer one to paint


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/11 07:40:08


Post by: Oborosen


 jeff white wrote:
Noise marines as above specified seem a good answer.

Maybe updated OG marines, specifically a new multipart beaky kit.


Hmm.. a relic kit maybe?

comes with enough parts to modify a full tactical squad and make it all mark 3 gear, or around that same collection.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/11 10:40:41


Post by: Statistx


 vipoid wrote:
Statistx wrote:
I want a female Tech Dominus/Domina?

How would you even tell?


GW calls that model Dominus, so I KNOW :p


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/11 14:44:48


Post by: VladimirHerzog


 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
 VladimirHerzog wrote:
 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I want to get an actual "Sniper" unit in the game that isn't an assassin. Give the IG sniper rifle S6 and make it D2 damage, with character targeting rules. The SM sniper rifles are already d3 or d3 depending on the type, and have character targeting. Hell, make it a strat. But I would love for my Tanith themed Sniper Teams with Larkin to be viable for once, and I think S6 guns with character targeting would be great.



Admech has transuranic arquebuses as a real sniper unit (7 -2 D3). Its a shame they can move and shoot.


My only problem with them is they don't have character Targeting. Let me just say this, I wish it was easier to Role-play a character sniper in game.

Honestly, I play Custodes, and the only unit in a faction of literal tactical and strategic geniuses that can shoot a character is the Terminators. Somehow Valarian and Trajaan missed out on the lesson where shooting the guy with the big shiny rank and silly hat turns the table of the fight drastically. Hell, shouldn't every "Elite" be able to snipe important characters? I hate how for some reason the 9 foot ork shouting orders to the relatively smaller orks is somehow not targetable unless you kill every ork in the vicinity.


They do have character targeting.

And yea, i agree that character targeting is dumb.

On topic: i'd like to see the Mechanicum units ported to 40k


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/11 20:08:11


Post by: macluvin


Doomrider... Bike HQ's for Chaos space marines... Noise Marines... I actually liked the old possessed models more than the new ones, and if they could just make Gal Vorbak from the horus heresy into the possessed of 40k that would be amazing... From model design all the way to performance on the table top.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/11 22:42:01


Post by: Amishprn86


Not Online!!! wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
 Amishprn86 wrote:
Drukhari

All named Characters that were taken away and gear/upgrades for current characters and units that were taken away.


Corsairs

Just give me 7th book and rules (it was already built in 7th with Detachments and traits, 8th/9th was built off of Corsairs for crying out loud!)


So much this.

I know GW are lazy, but surely even they can stretch to 'Ctrl+C', 'Ctrl+V'.


meh as someone that rewrote the R&H index.. it's a bit more then that, and some fringe occaisons need to be looked at for balance reasons, but it'd be a job of about 2 days tops, in ruleswriting and about a week of dedicated playtesting?


Then you didn't see the 7th Corsairs book b.c it LITERALLY ALREADY HAD TRAITS AND WAS SET UP LIKE 8TH CODICES. There are something like 20 fan made codices out right now (I even have one) b.c most of it was already set up, basically the art and story is all that is needed and converting the stats that DE/CWE already did.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/11 23:17:30


Post by: DivineVisitor


How has this managed to reach 4 pages without anybody mentioning The Avatar of Khaine.

He should rightly be the most important unit in an Eldar Armylist.

Give him the same steroids that GW juiced the Greater Daemons with, a couple of weapons options (spear/sword/maybe something new) and let him go to town.

Sure the Forgeworld one is nice but the Sword version is now OOP; i wouldn't be suprised if the same thing happens to the Spear option. As for his metal/finecast release, the sculpt is fast approaching 30 years old. He arguably needs a new plastic model more than any other unit in the game.



Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/12 02:30:00


Post by: Oborosen


 DivineVisitor wrote:
How has this managed to reach 4 pages without anybody mentioning The Avatar of Khaine.

He should rightly be the most important unit in an Eldar Armylist.

Give him the same steroids that GW juiced the Greater Daemons with, a couple of weapons options (spear/sword/maybe something new) and let him go to town.

Sure the Forgeworld one is nice but the Sword version is now OOP; i wouldn't be suprised if the same thing happens to the Spear option. As for his metal/finecast release, the sculpt is fast approaching 30 years old. He arguably needs a new plastic model more than any other unit in the game.


I think it's because he's gotten so many other options from a conversion standpoint than anyone else at this point. You have about three options from AOS and even the FW model is still in production as well.

If he did get a new plastic model. I really hope they drop several new variations on him, other then the Wailing Doom.
He's also seen some more play in the last two editions, especially 7th & 8th.

On the premise of giving the old boy some new, much needed life. I'll wholeheartedly second giving him that boost.


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 Amishprn86 wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
 Amishprn86 wrote:
Drukhari

All named Characters that were taken away and gear/upgrades for current characters and units that were taken away.


Corsairs

Just give me 7th book and rules (it was already built in 7th with Detachments and traits, 8th/9th was built off of Corsairs for crying out loud!)


So much this.

I know GW are lazy, but surely even they can stretch to 'Ctrl+C', 'Ctrl+V'.


meh as someone that rewrote the R&H index.. it's a bit more then that, and some fringe occaisons need to be looked at for balance reasons, but it'd be a job of about 2 days tops, in ruleswriting and about a week of dedicated playtesting?


Then you didn't see the 7th Corsairs book b.c it LITERALLY ALREADY HAD TRAITS AND WAS SET UP LIKE 8TH CODICES. There are something like 20 fan made codices out right now (I even have one) b.c most of it was already set up, basically the art and story is all that is needed and converting the stats that DE/CWE already did.


At that point. I think it becomes more of an issue on what's supported by GW and openly run by the fan base.
I myself am all for fan-run rules, so long as they are accepted by the players. Because I would never have survived through some editions in those exact same cases.

But for me, when it comes to DE. I'd like to see a few more models get their overhauls done. Because the Craft worlds got most of their own units updated and even with the Ynnari getting such a large release. Most people just felt that the DE got shafted on what they could field. No real power to the Archons, iffy, or entirely pigeonholed troops. Though their poisoned weapons have always been a nice strength. I can name more than a few time that I've been put against a Dark Eldar player and their toughness would fail them more often than it should have.

Maybe a rework of POP, or Combat Drugs perhaps?


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 fraser1191 wrote:
My answer is and will always be Cato Sicarius.

The resin one is awesome, main reason I chose Ultramarines. I've gotten a lot better at painting since I picked him up originally and I'd love to get a newer one to paint


Give me his 4th edition model any day. I don't know what it is, but I utterly hate banners on my models. Unless it's a Warboss, or some other big gaudy thing like that. I usually tend to keep them off and use them for spares somewhere else. But in his case, it was also his sword being so close to his body and the fact that he was still holding his helmet at the time.

He always looked more at home being a display model and not a war-game model.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/12 08:43:00


Post by: Segersgia


While I am not an Eldar player in any way, I really want to see the return of the Eldar Bonesinger.

Why was this unit discontinued? It is a beautiful sculpt.

Spoiler:


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/12 11:28:14


Post by: Super Ready


That is indeed an amazing model. I'm somewhat comforted by the fact that it can still make for a suitable Farseer, though (minus the issue of not having a visible witch weapon without conversion).
I suspect the reason for its discontinuation is that it really didn't do that much on the tabletop compared to Farseers, Warlocks and Spiritseers - hence, I don't see an awful lot of Eldar players having picked one up.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/12 11:33:25


Post by: Not Online!!!


 Amishprn86 wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
 Amishprn86 wrote:
Drukhari

All named Characters that were taken away and gear/upgrades for current characters and units that were taken away.


Corsairs

Just give me 7th book and rules (it was already built in 7th with Detachments and traits, 8th/9th was built off of Corsairs for crying out loud!)


So much this.

I know GW are lazy, but surely even they can stretch to 'Ctrl+C', 'Ctrl+V'.


meh as someone that rewrote the R&H index.. it's a bit more then that, and some fringe occaisons need to be looked at for balance reasons, but it'd be a job of about 2 days tops, in ruleswriting and about a week of dedicated playtesting?


Then you didn't see the 7th Corsairs book b.c it LITERALLY ALREADY HAD TRAITS AND WAS SET UP LIKE 8TH CODICES. There are something like 20 fan made codices out right now (I even have one) b.c most of it was already set up, basically the art and story is all that is needed and converting the stats that DE/CWE already did.

I know, one should still take a look at it though but that is because i have seemingly higher standard expectations to what drivel GW releases...

And corsairs would make an amazing faction regardless, heck one could even include other fringe elements to that faction from eldar society and get a really nice faction that would certainly fill in better then what GW did with ynnari..


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/12 17:41:33


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Segersgia wrote:
Why was this unit discontinued? It is a beautiful sculpt.
Was it ever in production? I recall it being the Limited Edition mini that was in the army box, and not something that ever went up for general sale. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 DivineVisitor wrote:
How has this managed to reach 4 pages without anybody mentioning The Avatar of Khaine.
I really hope that the Avatar gets the same treatment as the Greater Daemons.

I mean, if the damned Vermin Lord can get 13 variants in the same box, we can get one giant Avatar of Khaine to smash things up.



Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/12 20:04:21


Post by: Dysartes


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Segersgia wrote:
Why was this unit discontinued? It is a beautiful sculpt.
Was it ever in production? I recall it being the Limited Edition mini that was in the army box, and not something that ever went up for general sale. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


I don't know about general release, but it did go through a M2O cycle when they did one for Eldar - I picked one up as a birthday or Christmas present for a friend of mine who plays Eldar.


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I got bored this morning, so I went through and counted up the votes for 40k models which exist(ed) - I'm excluding non-40k requests, or requests for models which never existed within the GW range.

Spoiler:
CSM
Chosen - 1 (just about count thanks to Dark Vengeance)
Defilers - 1
Doomrider - 2
Huron Blackheart - 2
Khorne Berserkers - 4
Lucius the Eternal - 2
Master of Possession - 1
Mutilators - 2
Noise Marines - 7
Obliterators - 2
Possessed - 1
Venomcrawler - 1

Daemons
Daemonettes (Juan Diaz, plastic) - 2

DE
"Missing characters" - 2
Beastmaster - 1
Beasts - 1
Grotesques - 2
Lhamaen - 2
Lilith Hesperax - 1
Mandrakes - 2
Urien Rakarth - 2
Vect on Dias of Destruction - 1

Eldar
Aspect Warriors - 3
Autarch - 2
Avatar of Khaine - 3
Bonesinger - 1
Grav Tanks - 1
Phoenix Lords - 2
Warlocks - 1

IG
Colonel Schaeffer's Last Chancers - 1
Griffon Mortar Carrier - 2
Kasrkin - 1
Lord Commander Solar Macharius - 1
Regiment Infantry - 4
RT-era Guardsmen - 1
Rough Riders - 9
Snipers - 1
Vostroyans - 1

Orks
Cyboars - 2
Cyborks - 3
Kaptain Badrukk - 1
Kommandos - 1
Mad Dok Grotsnik - 1
Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub - 3
Nobz/Mega-Nobz - 1
Skarboyz - 1
Tankbustas - 1
Tinboyz - 1
Warboss / big boss - 2
Weirdboy - 1
Weirdboy Minderz - 1
Zogwort - 2

Necrons
Pariahs - 6

SoB
Crusader - 1 (also applies to IG)
Death Cult Assassin - 1
Frateris Militia - 1
Preachers - 1 (also applies to IG)

SM
Box Dreadnought (aka Angry Washing Machine) - 1
Captain Cortez - 1
Cato Sicarius - 2
Commander boxed set with options - 1
Las/plas Razorback turret - 1
Mk VI Marines - 2
"Rifleman" Dreadnoughts - 1
Scout Sergeant Telion - 1

Squats
Just in general - 3

Tau
Aun-Shi - 1
Kroot Carnivore - 1
Kroot Hound - 1
Kroot Shaper - 1
Krootox - 1
Vespid - 1

Tyranids
Biovore/Pyrovore kit - 2
Carnifex - 2
Deathleaper/Lictor kit - 2
Gaunt weapon options (spike rifle, strangleweb, etc) - 1
Hive Tyrant - 2
Raveners - 1


Looks like the top three requests at the moment are Rough Riders, Pariahs and Noise Marines...


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/13 09:16:28


Post by: Grimtuff


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Segersgia wrote:
Why was this unit discontinued? It is a beautiful sculpt.
Was it ever in production? I recall it being the Limited Edition mini that was in the army box, and not something that ever went up for general sale. Please correct me if I'm wrong.



I was always under the impression it was online only. But because this was circa mid 2000's GW, it never sold that well due to the internet still being dark and spooky to them at that point; plus its lack of rules, despite it being perfectly serviceable as literally any Eldar psyker.

I seem to recall it being released around the same time as a load of other "display" type minis, like the Squig chase and the Empire Warrior Priest blessing the handgun, all of which disappeared PDQ too.

EDIT- Yes, it was Webstore only. The Army Box mini was this Autarch


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/13 09:25:20


Post by: Dysartes


The Bonesinger becomes an interesting option should we see Eldar terrain become a thing.

Mind you, they've always had a role as a "repair vehicles/constructs" character, when you think about it.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/15 04:22:45


Post by: Oborosen


 Dysartes wrote:
The Bonesinger becomes an interesting option should we see Eldar terrain become a thing.

Mind you, they've always had a role as a "repair vehicles/constructs" character, when you think about it.


Maybe they should receive a few utility abilities for wraith-both constructs?

Re-rolls on misses, d3 wounds instead of just the 1, or even allowing them to move and fire at full BS. It doesn't matter, so long as they can do a few more things and their points represents that. Even throwing in a few CPs that could be taken with them would be a nice touch.

The Tech-marine has always been rather lackluster in much the same way and now that the conversion beamer has been lost to a few of them. You don't see such units fielded as much anymore.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/17 03:41:55


Post by: operkoi


I don't play nids but I really think they should get shrikes back with a statline like warriors that must pick a set of either ranged or special melee weapons in exchange for fly and a 12" movement range, could be made into a biker or jump pack analogue that could be good this edition for flying out fast to take objectives and ignoring obstacles while being tougher to kill then units like gargoyles


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/17 04:05:54


Post by: Argive


 Super Ready wrote:
That is indeed an amazing model. I'm somewhat comforted by the fact that it can still make for a suitable Farseer, though (minus the issue of not having a visible witch weapon without conversion).
I suspect the reason for its discontinuation is that it really didn't do that much on the tabletop compared to Farseers, Warlocks and Spiritseers - hence, I don't see an awful lot of Eldar players having picked one up.


I run a bonesinger regularly in 8th (before dang legends..)

He is a nifty little character thats not a HQ(yay) that could either smite or heal D3 wounds to stuff.. And then consider two of these zipping around healing wave serpents
Unfortunately legends put an end to that... :(

Indeed Bonesinger is a perfect unit to get some love. Really hope they re-introduce him and he could have some unique utility.

I did mention the AOK. The problem is I think it would have to be superior to the FW verion which is going to be tricky to pull off.


Are there any models, or units that you would like to see update/back? @ 2020/09/17 04:28:20


Post by: Oborosen


 Argive wrote:
 Super Ready wrote:
That is indeed an amazing model. I'm somewhat comforted by the fact that it can still make for a suitable Farseer, though (minus the issue of not having a visible witch weapon without conversion).
I suspect the reason for its discontinuation is that it really didn't do that much on the tabletop compared to Farseers, Warlocks and Spiritseers - hence, I don't see an awful lot of Eldar players having picked one up.


I run a bonesinger regularly in 8th (before dang legends..)

He is a nifty little character thats not a HQ(yay) that could either smite or heal D3 wounds to stuff.. And then consider two of these zipping around healing wave serpents
Unfortunately legends put an end to that... :(

Indeed Bonesinger is a perfect unit to get some love. Really hope they re-introduce him and he could have some unique utility.

I did mention the AOK. The problem is I think it would have to be superior to the FW verion which is going to be tricky to pull off.


It's no surprise that GW is going to nearly force everyone who plays Eldar. To purchase that FW model, just to have a certain model in their army.

Almost everyone has gotten more than enough love over the last two releases, especially daemons, and now even Necrons are getting into the mix.

How about I toss in requesting a conversion kit, so that my dread knights don't look like Baby Carriers of doom?