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[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/26 19:51:59


Post by: Stormonu


Hadn't seen a thread for this, thought I'd start one here.

Gale Force 9 is producing a new Aliens board game. Does not have crossover (at this time) to the Predator universe, like the older Prodos Aliens vs. Predator KS. I haven't seen a street date for the game, but it looks like it is close. MSRP $60 USD





Game appears to have elements of Imperial Assault & Space Hulk - for example, Aliens are deployed as blips before revealing their true numbers. It's a co-op game, everyone plays as marines, the Aliens are NPC foes. The game appears to be for 1-6 players, but your group will always be 6 marines - those not played directly by players are given "grunt" statistics for easier play. The game has a campaign mode and uses an "endurance deck" that persists through the missions. As cards in the endurance deck are expended, the players have fewer access to resources and power-ups. Deck is somewhat replenished between missions, but it is possible to have cards permanently removed from the game.

Two expansions for the core game - "Ultimate Badasses" adds six additional marines and advancement cards. MSRP $30 USD. "Get Away from Her You B****h" adds the Alien Queen, Ripley in Powerloader, damaged Bishop and Ripley & Newt figure, as well as campaign expansions. MSRP $60 USD









A quick review of the game (starts at 9:44)



Personally, can't await to get a hold of this game.

<EDIT> Corrected number of players.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/26 20:44:44


Post by: SamusDrake


I inquired about this a while back in another thread. Glad someone else is as excited for it as I am!

It was said recently that "Another glorious day in the corps" was up for release about now with the expansions due for Christmas, but according to Wayland Games its up for yet another 38 days for pre-order.

That review was good and certainly puts one's mind at ease, but its hard to put the money down for it when the release date keeps going back months at a time. My Brother and I absolutely worship ALIENS and it was that film and Space Crusade that got us into the hobby back in 1990 and was hoping to celebrate Halloween with the core game on Saturday, but sadly not to be.

Have you seen the model for Newt, giving a salute and wearing the marine helmet?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/26 20:48:36


Post by: Stormonu


SamusDrake wrote:


Have you seen the model for Newt, giving a salute and wearing the marine helmet?


A-firmative!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I'll have to say, pre-covid, Gale Force Nine has had issues getting things out in a timely fashion - I can only imagine how much drag current events have increased that lag time.

However, considering that the reviewer appears to have a production copy, I am crossing my fingers that they are very close to having this ready to ship.

Unfortunately, the place where I normally order - Miniature Market, appears to be "sold out" of preorders so this looks like it might be popular enough when it comes out it will be somewhat difficult to get a hold of (for me).


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/26 22:27:52


Post by: SamusDrake


LOL!

"Why don't you put HER in charge!??

Hopefully it won't be too long.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/26 22:33:11


Post by: Aeneades


Some stores are offering a free terrain kit if you order the base game with both expansions -



I want to like Gale Force Nine but have been burnt a couple of times with them abandoning an IP shortly after release after promising expansions pre-release that never materialise. It's good that this one is getting decent support straight out the gate though as alleviates that somewhat.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/26 22:52:18


Post by: kestral


Looks pretty cool - might be a good family game.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/26 23:44:58


Post by: Kid_Kyoto




I just love the computer.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 02:55:17


Post by: HudsonD


... I've been summoned ?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 03:08:27


Post by: Stormonu


 HudsonD wrote:
... I've been summoned ?


Apone told us to wake you up, we're almost there!

Wait - you're Hudson - where's Hicks?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 06:35:01


Post by: xKillGorex


Wonder how well the prodos marines match with the gf9 minis.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 07:45:18


Post by: SamusDrake


 Stormonu wrote:
 HudsonD wrote:
... I've been summoned ?


Apone told us to wake you up, we're almost there!

Wait - you're Hudson - where's Hicks?


Hudson! Come'ere....COME HERE!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 08:38:15


Post by: Garfield666


Just received my info from Wayland that release is officially postponed until 04.12.2020...
Let's see if I have to cancel the order due to Brexit or if it will make contact this year still...
I mean, what am I going to do? Build a fire, sing a couple o' songs?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 08:56:25


Post by: Pacific


*Watches Hudson get pulled through the floor by the aliens*

Have to admit I was hesitant when this appeared on pre-order as I didn't know much about it (and especially after the AvP delays etc.) but after watching that video I have to say it looks absolutely awesome. Loved the bit about having to try and not exhaust your marines and the events that take place, the aliens carrying off marines (and then you can choose to have a separate mission to go and rescue them!) and just the general look of how they have captured the license. Co-opting bits of Space Hulk (which after all was influenced by Aliens) makes perfect sense too, I liked the look of the multiple miniature mechanic too.

So, pre-order it is! The Outpost has it listed for release on 7th November while Wayland games has early December. Dice & Decks have end of November.
Frustratingly, the actual Flames of War/GF9 website just has pre-order but not an actual date.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 14:31:57


Post by: Theophony


Well I guess I know what movies to cue up, this just got me in a good mood, and in this last stretch before Halloween and too.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 15:37:14


Post by: Huron black heart


This is one of my all time favourite films but I wonder if it's too similar to Nemesis which I backed at Kickstarter, do I need both...


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 16:02:16


Post by: Shadow Walker


Pros: Aliens without Predators (I like each but separately). Cons: no solo mode.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 16:14:48


Post by: Stormonu


 Huron black heart wrote:
This is one of my all time favourite films but I wonder if it's too similar to Nemesis which I backed at Kickstarter, do I need both...


Oh, Nemesis looks cool, and it has the Diahoti tractor!

I'd say the two games are going to be quite different - Aliens is going to be more about kicking butt, while Nemesis looks like it is going to require more cautious play. You need both....especially so you can use the Alien minis in Nemesis

I'm crossing my fingers that the Alien game will have some sort of Ash/Burke betrayal factor that can kick in, making it not only the aliens you have to be worried about.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 16:14:51


Post by: Ork-en Man


It's a co-op game, so solo play should be doable. Even if it's just running multiple characters. That said, all of the characters have a hero side and an NPC side.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 16:19:58


Post by: Pacific


Yes I believe that video says it does have solo mode. He remarked on the aliens having a relatively simple AI that they follow (assume they just run up and kill stuff, or drag you away if you are less fortunate..)

Will be brilliant with the current situation not having to set up teddy bears across from me on the table and not pretend I am playing against other real people!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 16:35:13


Post by: Stormonu


 Shadow Walker wrote:
Pros: Aliens without Predators (I like each but separately). Cons: no solo mode.


I believe you can play this solo, though you will control all 6 marines at once (5 will be Grunts/NPCs, 1 will be a Hero).


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 16:42:11


Post by: SamusDrake


Yes, ALIENS is a game for 1-6 players.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 17:07:39


Post by: Nostromodamus


Had it on preorder from mini market since they started listing it. They have both expansions with the terrain kit bonus available too. I can’t wait!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 18:39:12


Post by: JoeRugby


GF9 have dropped a splash page for it https://www.gf9games.com/aliens

Will scour to see if there are some good pics of the minis


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 18:47:44


Post by: SamusDrake


"Enraged Ripley"


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 19:41:29


Post by: Stormonu


I like that they have the rulebooks available for download; doesn't include the missions or cards, but but good for digging in before the game is out (and I keep copies to use on my ipad).

https://www.gf9games.com/aliens/292/download-rulebook/


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 20:25:39


Post by: JoeRugby


Can’t see any production minis in the site or PDF.

Interestingly the credits have Archon as the sculptors


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 20:39:27


Post by: Thargrim


This game looks kinda decent, in some ways. But on the other hand i'm generally not a fan of games that reproduce scenarios from a movie. Like i'm not sure I want to experience a set of scenarios that just alternate happenings of certain events in the film.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 20:48:33


Post by: Ork-en Man


The game also includes Bug Hunt missions, which is where the Marines defend against successive waves of Xenomorphs.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/27 21:20:01


Post by: Gallahad


I really want to like this and be excited for it, but nothing is really grabbing me. Not sure why.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/28 08:39:00


Post by: Pacific


Thanks for that link Stormonu.

Just having a quick flick through the rules. Like that it's clearly presented (ace photos from the film!) and not overly long - I found AvP really clunky in terms of rulebook and rules so this feels like a step up.

The idea of a 'hero' and 'grunt' for the characters you aren't playing is quite neat, will help speed up solo or small player count games.
'Newt cannot be armed with weapons' - glad they got that in, for that person that every one of us has in their gaming group "where it does say Newt can't be armed with twin smart guns?"
The motion tracker/blip mechanic looks cool - you get a sense of approaching danger without knowing exact details, really cool component of the film
Barricades and the chance to have one last 'snap fire' lifesaver shot is cool - can imagine that getting tense! (as it was in Space Hulk)
Aliens are predictably horrible in melee - quite cool that there is a slim chance of the marines getting a 'defensive melee' kill against the Alien in melee. Thinking Hicks doing that roll and machine gunning the alien as it jumps over him - awesome
You can survive the game but get face-huggered, meaning you die at the end of the campaign :(

All in all after having a look through there will be watching Aliens again this weekend

.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/28 10:29:39


Post by: JoeRugby


Pre ordered the complete edition yesterday.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/28 12:26:17


Post by: stonehorse


Have asked my wife to get me this for Christmas.

Fingers crossed!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/28 13:56:06


Post by: Pacific


I've ordered the basic core game - the other expansions do look awesome but I'm mindful of the log of painting stuff I have waiting (although at least the Aliens will be super easy to do..)

Very reasonable £40. I've noticed Wayland Games have gone from 'pre-order' to 'out of stock' so would be wary if the initial stock levels are not that high.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/28 16:23:47


Post by: Samsonov


I have a bunch of prodos AvP models and am needing some rules for them. This looks good for solo, has permadeath, has experience system, has equipment options, so it is on the shopping list. Lets see if I can get a squad of prodos marines painted up before this thing is released.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/30 16:59:23


Post by: Zwan1One


Has there been any talk of the mini released separately? Would love to paint them up. But not sure if I’m interested in the game...?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/10/30 19:49:32


Post by: Stormonu


I'd find it very doubtful the minis will be made available seperately.

If you're just looking for the minis, I'd looks around for the Prodos AVP miniatures. I'm not sure they're available from Prodos directly, but should be able to find them at some FLGS or through E-bay.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/05 08:57:57


Post by: WholeHazelNuts


Well, for those you worrying it was vapour-game... here are the four boxes here in my home the UK. Arrived this morning.
Minis are very similar if not spot on scale with Prodos ones....






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[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/05 09:26:35


Post by: lord_blackfang


Badass!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/05 09:36:39


Post by: Max Moray


WholeHazelNuts wrote:
Well, for those you worrying it was vapour-game... here are the four boxes here in my home the UK. Arrived this morning.
Minis are very similar if not spot on scale with Prodos ones....


Thanks for the info. Looking great! Have fun with them. I hope they arrive in Germany, soon too.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/05 11:35:47


Post by: Samsonov


WholeHazelNuts wrote:
Minis are very similar if not spot on scale with Prodos ones


Excellent, very useful. Can I ask about the level of detail. I doubt they are comparable to the Prodos AvP (which were excellent) but how comparable are they to typical hard plastics?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/05 12:05:27


Post by: WholeHazelNuts


The marines are good detail - not resin standard, more along the lines with decent board game pieces - but the really bare no resemblance to the facial features of the characters... but that doesn't really matter. You get the feel of the character. The aliens are nicely detailed, again decent crisp detail, and they look like they'd come out well with minimum work.
There's some painted examples here - https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/256852/aliens-another-glorious-day-corps/images - that show you what I think would be perfectly capable of being achieved with them.

I tried to take a close up of the detail here -


I think I can easily work with a light undercoat layer and retain the details.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/05 20:40:31


Post by: Samsonov


Thanks for the closeup, they look sufficiently details for wargames purposes.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/05 23:40:33


Post by: Casbyness


To anyone who now has the game - is Newt included in the main box? Also, how many minis are in the Powerloader/Queen expansion?

I ask this because throughout UK websites for this game there has been a lot of confusion with people advertising that the "Get away from her you b*tch" expansion only has two miniatures, whereas USA websites say there are more models than just the main pair. Also there's been different counts of what's in the main game and other expansions - the most obvious one being the lack of Newt. It's been so weird that I didn't preorder since I didn't want to get a set that was missing several of the minis.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/06 01:02:32


Post by: WholeHazelNuts


Bearing in mind I ordered mine direct from Gale Force/Battlefront - yeah she comes in the main box - in her "Ay-firmative" pose. Heard a rumour that the second print run would have a different pose...? Not sure how true that is..so I guess we'll see. I can't imagine they'd change the content though between US and rest of the world?

The Get Away from her box has more than two - it has Alien Queen, Ripley in Powerloader, Bishop, Squishy bishop (well top half at least!) and "Enraged" Ripley - basically her with her sellotaped gun loadout for her rescue mission and Newt on one hip..ready to battle the Queen.You also get more boards, more blips, an APC board, more cards, more dice.

Whilst we're at it -

Main box contains - Ripley, Hicks, Hudson, Vasquez, Gorman and Frost as well as Newt.

Badasses box has - Apone, Wierzbowski, Dietrich, Burke, Crowe, Drake

So we're missing Ferro and Spunkmeyer from any of the boxes.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/06 01:30:53


Post by: Nostromodamus


Maybe Ferro and Spunkmeyer will show up in a dropship expansion?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/06 18:19:54


Post by: Casbyness


 Nostromodamus wrote:
Maybe Ferro and Spunkmeyer will show up in a dropship expansion?


Nah. A dropship expansion will be announced, will be shipped out to distributors, then inexplicably every copy will be irreparably destroyed in transit, also taking out the nearby APC expansion pack and every marine weapon except four drone guns and a couple of flamethrowers.

Eventually we'll have to send Bishop to run a remote-controlled Kickstarter for a second dropship expansion. That one will arrive just in time to save the game.



[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/07 01:15:19


Post by: Racerguy180


 Casbyness wrote:
 Nostromodamus wrote:
Maybe Ferro and Spunkmeyer will show up in a dropship expansion?


Nah. A dropship expansion will be announced, will be shipped out to distributors, then inexplicably every copy will be irreparably destroyed in transit, also taking out the nearby APC expansion pack and every marine weapon except four drone guns and a couple of flamethrowers.

Eventually we'll have to send Bishop to run a remote-controlled Kickstarter for a second dropship expansion. That one will arrive just in time to save the game.



YOU HAVE JUST WON THE INTERNET have an exalt!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/07 02:04:14


Post by: Nostromodamus


I look forward to the “Bishop crawls through a pipe” scenario


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/07 12:29:38


Post by: Pacific


Great to see these have started to get shipped!

There is a good play video on Beasts of War going through some of the mechanics, it looks like a fun game.

 Casbyness wrote:
 Nostromodamus wrote:
Maybe Ferro and Spunkmeyer will show up in a dropship expansion?


Nah. A dropship expansion will be announced, will be shipped out to distributors, then inexplicably every copy will be irreparably destroyed in transit, also taking out the nearby APC expansion pack and every marine weapon except four drone guns and a couple of flamethrowers.

Eventually we'll have to send Bishop to run a remote-controlled Kickstarter for a second dropship expansion. That one will arrive just in time to save the game.



Excellent, sir!



[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/07 13:55:37


Post by: Casbyness


Throughout human history, any time the Aliens dropship is announced as part of a video game, board game, card game or as a miniature, you can always rely on me to warn that the first version released will crash and burn.

People should always buy/sell them in pairs to avoid disappointment.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/10 13:21:14


Post by: Pacific


Just got an 'on its way' message from the gaming store I ordered mine from ('The Outpost' in the UK)

So hopefully not long now for everyone that has ordered it. Can't wait!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/10 14:04:49


Post by: JoeRugby


Postie just delivered mine, minis looking really nice in hand


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/10 14:57:55


Post by: Garfield666


Yup, and I didn't know it was hard plastic kits. I expected boardgame PVC minis. Very nice!
Looking tiny compared to the old Prodos ones though. Compared a GF9 marine to a WY Commando and the latter is a head taller.
Materials all look very nice, the dials are a nice touch. Hope the gameplay doesn't suck!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/10 15:30:03


Post by: Pacific


 Garfield666 wrote:
Yup, and I didn't know it was hard plastic kits. I expected boardgame PVC minis. Very nice!
Looking tiny compared to the old Prodos ones though. Compared a GF9 marine to a WY Commando and the latter is a head taller.
Materials all look very nice, the dials are a nice touch. Hope the gameplay doesn't suck!


Ah that's great I didn't realise the minis would be hard plastic!
Hopefully there will be enough detail so I can paint some motifs on the armour, will have to look at some film set photos for inspiration!
Then get the black spray and some gloss varnish out for the aliens

The gameplay vid reviews I have seen make it look great. I don't know who has designed it, looks like it was designed by someone who loves Aliens and also Space Hulk (which is kind of funny thinking how/when Space Hulk was first released).
I love some of the scenario ideas - being able to choose to go and rescue people that have been carried away by the aliens etc


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/10 19:46:43


Post by: Stormonu


I am green with envy.

Perhaps Santa will be kind this year...


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/14 15:33:09


Post by: Pacific


First impressions of looking through the set are very positive.

Miniatures are definitely nicely designed - not up to the detail level of AvP and are smaller (although they are in hard plastic), but I will take that if the game is better to play!
This has definitely been designed more for ease of use and the board-game crowd, really in the black plastic the Aliens are usable straight from the box.

What I will say is that for anyone who is a fan of the film you will love the components in the box. Packed with imagery and quotes from the film, even with little things like the sentry guns having a graphic which matches the one used in the film.
Really looks like GF9 have made full use of the license which is great to see !

Only had a quick flick through of the rulebook so far but it looks well laid out and again tons of imagery from the film which really makes you want to play.
Is getting some excellent reviews on BGG, can't wait to give it a spin!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/14 21:36:40


Post by: judgedoug


The minis are significantly better than my original expectations and even better in person than the online previews made them out to be.

I believe the Colonial Marines are manufactured by the company that does Victrix plastics. The aliens sprue is manufactured by Archon/Prodos amazingly enough. You can see USCM sprue is even labeled UK whilst alien sprue is labeled Poland.

I'm almost wondering if the delay was a decision to switch from gakky boardgame plastics to true hips and therefore had to wait for the lead time required for 2 companies to make them.

It's pretty interesting as the uscm appear to be the springier plastic which victrix uses so as to allow for less breakage on historical plastics but we have the typical victrix soft mold lines. whereas the archon aliens are much stiffer - but gosh, almost no mold lines - only ones I can detect are some on the smooth alien forehead.

...if they don't sell sprues separately i may be forced to buy another bundle. At the very least another Ultimate Badasses set to make some generic marines (as it's got 2 Pulse, 2 Incinerator, and 1 Smart, so enough to do a Fireteam with an extra Incinerator. Plus another Burke/"company man") Since we're obviously missing Spunkmeyer and Ferro I can only hope for an eventual Dropship expansion along with an M577 APC. Especially as the Power Loader sprue is almost a proof of concept that they can do extremely detailed multipart vehicles. There's tons of places where I think they could have taken some shortcuts but chose not to: for example, Ripley's strapped together Pule Rifle and Incinerator from the expansion could have easily been a single piece but they made sure to manufacture the Incinerator separately so that the tiny amount of void space between the two weapons was accurately reflected.

For anyone interested, they are 100% truescale, and appear to be 1/56, as in, Burke is standing upright at 32-33mm tall from bottom of shoes to top of head, and Paul Reiser is 5'10", same with Gorman/William Hope, same height. Wierzbowski is at a slight walking cant so would be roughly 34mm tall, and Trevor Steedman is 6'. Hudson appears to be 33 at a slight cant as well, so 34 straight up, and Bill Paxton is also 6'. Pretty accurate.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 05:53:22


Post by: Samsonov


There seems to be some conflicting accounts of how they scale with AvP prodos models. It is worth bearing in mind that prodos (somehow) managed to produce colonial marines in three different scales! First edition box set marines were very thin 32mm, first edition multipart marines were noticeably more bulky 32mm and second edition marines were smaller (28mm I believe but do not own any).


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 07:47:01


Post by: Garfield666


Hi Samsonov, I measured what I have at hand, an old Prodos WY Commando (35mm to the eyes) und GF9 Hudson (28mm to the eyes). The difference is immense, even without the base.
I do not own any of the newer Prodos unicast stuff, which seemed very ugly to me. I believe these were a bit smaller than the original resin figures.
The unicast stuff comes with huge integral bases though.
In the end it always depends on how picky one is. People differ in heights and sizes and the equipment looks rather similar.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 09:02:43


Post by: Pacific


Some really interesting observations on scale there Judgedoug. I agree they do definitely look like a 'truescale', very small heads and hands (well, they are in proportion for the size of the miniature rather).

Did you go for the full set with the expansions then I take it? I didn't know there was a Burke model I will have to buy it on those grounds

As for scale - yes compared to the first/original KS edition they are very different. The AvP marines are significantly larger and I don't think they would line up next to each other well, unless you wanted the guys from this boxset to be child soldiers or something.
For Aliens I'm not sure I haven't compared them - I guess it would be less of an issue, you could use the AvP ones as a 'royal guard' or something like that if they were slightly bigger.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 10:04:27


Post by: Samsonov


Oh well, if they are out of scale with prodos first edition stuff then I am out for now. Thanks everyone for the information though. I will, however, see if people start selling the boxed game minus the minatures on ebay for a knockdown price, since I would like to give the game a go.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 13:42:04


Post by: Garfield666


Ok, I managed to find a box of old Prodos marines. They too, are about a head taller. You might be still ok with it though, as the proportions (head, chest, limbs etc.) are the same.
The Aliens are fine.
If you are interested in the game, I would say: give it a go anyway!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 13:51:28


Post by: judgedoug


 Pacific wrote:
Did you go for the full set with the expansions then I take it? I didn't know there was a Burke model I will have to buy it on those grounds


Yeah, the full experience with the free bonus set of accessories, which are amazing.


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RE: Compatibility with AVP1 or AVP2 games;

While I am not here to convince you of anything, I'd like to point out that the GF9 Aliens is commercially available and also seems to be a significantly better game. As it is apparently doing gangbusters sales for GF9 right now I imagine it will continue to be supported as well.

The fact that the xenos are on a differently sized sprue/manufacturer/plastics composition and are multipart with multiple head options smacks of miniatures wargame to me. Perhaps GF9 will outdo Prodos not only in the board game department but also the miniatures wargame department.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 17:33:03


Post by: Manchu


judgedoug, I wonder if the separate manufacturers issue might also be evidence of a miniatures game around the corner (with generic marines without names on bases to be produced by Prodos later?)

As for the game itself,

It’s a very interesting design, There is a deck of cards called the Endurance Deck which essentially powers everything. It is comprised of Weapons, Equipment, Events, and Hazards. You outfit your characters from this deck. You draw cards from this deck when your characters use their weapons. Your characters have abilities that allow/force them to draw cards from the deck and, sometimes, to recycle cards back into this deck. And if you succeed in a mission during campaign play, you remove about half of the cards discarded during that mission (minus any Hazards) from the rest of that campaign! This represents the dwindling resources available. About the only thing your characters can do without using the Endurance Deck is move but even some forms of movement (standing up after being thrown down by a xenomorph, out of normal sequence) requires discarding Endurance cards. Campaign play does not seem like a walk in the park.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 19:10:07


Post by: judgedoug


 Manchu wrote:
judgedoug, I wonder if the separate manufacturers issue might also be evidence of a miniatures game around the corner (with generic marines without names on bases to be produced by Prodos later?)


That is my hope. I am assembling the xenos and they are phenomenal. It's literally what I dreamt about when I first got into minis wargaming in the very early 90's: my favorite IP with great plastic miniatures. Even if a possible eventual wargame has terrible rules it would mean at least more new plastics. As much as I love the Prodos APC and Dropship that I got, I would much prefer plastic kits. It makes me wonder if Prodos (err, Archon, now, technically) had these ready to be tooled before losing the license, or at least, prototypes done. The plastic Predators they released right at the end are great and of similar quality.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 19:13:23


Post by: Manchu


Yeah, I don’t see potentially bad rules preventing us from doing SOMETHING totally fun with plastic Aliens minis.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 19:15:22


Post by: judgedoug


 Manchu wrote:
Yeah, I don’t see potentially bad rules preventing us from doing SOMETHING totally fun with plastic Aliens minis.


It's the entire reason I bought the entire AVP line along with the Dungeons & Lasers sci fi sets


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/15 19:20:17


Post by: Theophony


You guys need to stop......my poor wallet....At least my printer will make lovely terrain for me. The models look good. better than my old Leading Edge miniatures from waaaaaaaaay back.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 00:22:38


Post by: ced1106


Wouldn't Archon / Prodos have some sort of a agreement / requirement from Paramount not to produce the AvP miniatures since they no longer have the license?

Anyway, during the D&L3 campaign, I asked Archon about sprues of the Chronicle X miniatures as an add-on in Rampart 3 KS or something, and they were open to it. (AFAIK, Archon owns the rights to Chronicle X, and makes the plastic sprues and assembles the miniatures in-house. CX had production problems with their paper and cardboard components, Made in China.)

So, with the possibility that they can produce the miniatures, send 'em a note suggesting they sell them in one way or another.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 04:35:48


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Lotta talk of minis without any pictures.

And can someone photograph the tiles?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 05:53:05


Post by: Samsonov


 ced1106 wrote:
Wouldn't Archon / Prodos have some sort of a agreement / requirement from Paramount not to produce the AvP miniatures since they no longer have the license?

That could prevent them producing AvP miniatures but that might not preclude them making Aliens miniatures? I seem to remember from discussions about the AvP kickstarter that the two were different intellectual properties. If so, then I guess that someone making miniatures for the Aliens franchise might also be able to make generic marines since the USCM is part of the Aliens background.

Anyway, I would be very interested if these became a line of multipart plastic miniatures. I do not need any more marines, having 30 plus prodos unmade ones stashed away, but more aliens would be fantastic, whilst one can only dream of a plastic APC and dropship.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 07:51:30


Post by: Jadenim


 Manchu wrote:
Yeah, I don’t see potentially bad rules preventing us from doing SOMETHING totally fun with plastic Aliens minis.


*Sits in the corner making “pew-pew” noises*...


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 14:24:31


Post by: judgedoug


 ced1106 wrote:
Wouldn't Archon / Prodos have some sort of a agreement / requirement from Paramount not to produce the AvP miniatures since they no longer have the license?


Can you explain your thought process here? We know anything AVP from Prodos is gone so there will never be any more Prodos AVP stuff.

Do you mean the Aliens sprues manufactured by Archon for GF9? They are produced under license by a valid licensee. GF9 sells them.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 14:41:45


Post by: beast_gts


Several UK stores didn't get their full allocation / order. This is the announcement from The Outpost:

**ALIENS announcement**

Earlier this month we received around 70% of our ALIENS pre-order numbers from Battlefront/GF9.
We reached out to them last week for further information on the remaining items and received this information around an hour ago.

"Dear Customers,
Due to circumstances out of our control, we received damaged boxes on some of our ALIENS and the expansions, which we are not happy to send to you as a finished product, representative of the quality you have come to expect.

This means that your current pre-order which we expected for December, has been delayed whilst we await acceptable outer box replacements. These should arrive at the end of December, and will be ready to ship them in the New Year."
We reached out to other suppliers and retailers to see if they were able/willing to supply additional stock but were unable to source any.
As such we will be unable to complete several orders containing the core game or bundles. If you have an outstanding order there are 2 options:
1. We will continue to wait for the restock, this is in the new year unfortunately.
2. Your order can be cancelled for a full refund.
If you prefer option 1 then there is nothing more needed, we will be making further announcements once we have news.
If you are looking to receive a refund please email custserv@the-outpost.co.uk with your order number and request a refund to payment method or voucher.
We're incredibly sorry for the news and especially for it being so late.
Chris & The Outpost team


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 16:24:26


Post by: Garfield666


The Prodos imvolvement is really interesting... and disturbing...
I checked the AvP Rulebook and the Alien queen is the same as the new plastic GF9 one.
Found my box of old Prodos stuff and compared the figures. Old Prodos is very inconsistent in size. I compared a new marine to an old one and they were almost the same height. Vasquez however is almost 1cm smaller then the old Smartgunner... The WY commandos I had for comparison first are bigger in general.

As it was asked for pics, here's my base boardgame painted. It was only two evenings of speedpainting, so don't expect anything fancy. Boardgamegeek shows some stunning immages from a professional.
Anyways, I am very pleased and they were easy and fun to paint. The Aliens will be very much at risk during gaming as they are so delicate, the rest is fine. Now on to paint the expansions the next days.

Hope this works, never uploaded pics before...





[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 18:14:24


Post by: judgedoug


 Garfield666 wrote:
Vasquez however is almost 1cm smaller then the old Smartgunner...

Jenette Goldstein is 5'3" so that stands to reason.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 18:37:50


Post by: Samsonov


So those aliens in the game look basically identical to the prodos ones. This does indeed look like there has been a bit of change, which might explain the delay. Compare the eventual ones in the game with how the earlier prototypes looked:

(from this page, posted April 2019: https://www.gf9.com/Default.aspx?tabid=225&art_id=6458)

Anyway, if anyone wishes to wargames the Aliens setting then it is difficult to exaggerate how important having a new source of prodos xenomorphs is!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 18:53:02


Post by: judgedoug


Hm not identical, the body poses and tail poses, are minimum, are different than the multipart resin warriors and of course the unicast. But since they had the cad files it only makes sense to repose them for hips production.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/16 21:57:29


Post by: Garfield666


Looked at my old Prodos Alien-Warriors and they are the same sculpt. Not the same parts, but some heads or tails for example are identical. They have been re-posed, split in different parts and turned into HIPS models.
Interestingly, the powerlifter is also the same pose as the old one, just with Ripley inside.
Guess GF9 bought all (?) the Prodos 3D files.

Dang, now I even feel tempted to paint up all the unused Prodos stuff too...


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/17 12:20:34


Post by: MrPieChee


The prodos stuff goes for 2-3 times it's retail price on eBay - my advice is to sell it and by the GF9 stuff!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 09:26:26


Post by: Manchu


Separate miniatures? Separate miniatures.



LINK

12x xenomorphs = 25 USD

queen = 15 USD

Amazing!


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 09:34:40


Post by: Billicus


Oh that's fantastic news. I will be all over that in the new year. Didn't need another game system right now but the miniatures are lovely


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 09:36:54


Post by: Manchu


Uh, not to mention the best priced miniatures since like what 1996?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 09:44:58


Post by: Billicus


You're right, I've pulled the trigger now instead of waiting - those are priced to move


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 10:11:53


Post by: Samsonov


So are those the same marines as come in the box? I had not realised they are multipart. Anyway, I think I need some of those Aliens!

As much as all this is very welcome, I am unsure why they are doing this. For example, I imagine that plenty of people would pay £50 for main box and £25 for the six extra marines just for the models, yet within a week of those models actually being released you can now buy all 13 humans for £20. Seems a strange business strategy to me, unless something else is going on.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 10:31:32


Post by: Max Moray


Oh, that's great and the price is really nice.

Probably would not have ordered the game if I had known this, though. Anyway... the game will be waiting under the christmas tree and since it's there it will also be played...


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 10:48:22


Post by: Pacific


 Samsonov wrote:
So are those the same marines as come in the box? I had not realised they are multipart. Anyway, I think I need some of those Aliens!

As much as all this is very welcome, I am unsure why they are doing this. For example, I imagine that plenty of people would pay £50 for main box and £25 for the six extra marines just for the models, yet within a week of those models actually being released you can now buy all 13 humans for £20. Seems a strange business strategy to me, unless something else is going on.


The marines are multipart but not many parts, and fit together in a limited way.

Yes that is very cheap pricing wise. I suppose you would pay more for the rules & expansion if you want to use them with the game (as I think the expansions come with extra unit and event cards etc?) These are here if you just want the minis.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 11:30:48


Post by: darknation


I seem to remember that Prodos were working on a second edition of their game, one that replaced the resin minis with hard plastic for the mass market. If that rumour was true, I'd bet these are the same CAD files that they were working on before they lost the license / ran out of money for tooling.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 13:47:38


Post by: judgedoug


 Samsonov wrote:
As much as all this is very welcome, I am unsure why they are doing this. For example, I imagine that plenty of people would pay £50 for main box and £25 for the six extra marines just for the models, yet within a week of those models actually being released you can now buy all 13 humans for £20. Seems a strange business strategy to me, unless something else is going on.


The primary cost is the game. You buy the game, to play the game.

If you are like me, and want lots more figures, you go from "maybe I should buy another copy" to "How many sets of miniatures can I afford before I can't pay my bills anymore".

There's also the Alien RPG from FL, and it's pretty damn smart to cater to those RPG gamers who simply cannot fathom playing an RPG without minis (and there's a lot of them). Especially as the RPG continues to sell out of it's print runs because it's actually really damn good.

Considering the Colonial Marine supplement from FL is coming out very soon, it's either strategic or actually done in partnership (either unofficially/conversationally or officially).


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 14:11:50


Post by: Pacific


Just putting some miniatures together and the marines are lovely! Super easy to build, very limited flash. I think they are built in such a way that they should be fairly solid, and not break too easily for the board game crowd.

Aliens are a little more finickity - not sure how many of those tails might break off if care isn't taken, although I think they will always be a bit difficult just because of how the Aliens are (lots of spindly bits sticking out everywhere!)



[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 16:01:46


Post by: judgedoug


 Pacific wrote:
Just putting some miniatures together and the marines are lovely! Super easy to build, very limited flash. I think they are built in such a way that they should be fairly solid, and not break too easily for the board game crowd.

Aliens are a little more finickity - not sure how many of those tails might break off if care isn't taken, although I think they will always be a bit difficult just because of how the Aliens are (lots of spindly bits sticking out everywhere!)



I'm honestly less impressed with the UK sprues than the Poland sprues. The USCM feel a little 'soft'. But yeah, very easy to assemble and pretty robust. Looking forward to buying a squad box and converting them a little bit, perhaps seeing if someone makes alternate bases! The xenomorphs are just a treat. I've done half of mine so far, making sure I pose them all individually and mixing/matching the various head/tail/arm options to get the widest visual variety.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 17:11:39


Post by: Stormonu


Oh, those mini boxes are nice! I think I paid more for my Leading Edge queen than that plastic box in the 90's.

Got the game on order for Christmas, will have to add these mini boxes as soon as they pop up on MM. Can never have enough xenomorphs!

(And I wholeheartedly endorse the RPG - it does a fabulous job capturing the atmosphere and feel of the first two/three movies).


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 17:37:11


Post by: Pacific


I'm pretty shocked at the price of those other sets. The Outpost (UK) has pre-order on the terrain pack (boxes, terminals, face huggers and face hugger eggs) for less than £9 which is mental.

 judgedoug wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
Just putting some miniatures together and the marines are lovely! Super easy to build, very limited flash. I think they are built in such a way that they should be fairly solid, and not break too easily for the board game crowd.

Aliens are a little more finickity - not sure how many of those tails might break off if care isn't taken, although I think they will always be a bit difficult just because of how the Aliens are (lots of spindly bits sticking out everywhere!)



I'm honestly less impressed with the UK sprues than the Poland sprues. The USCM feel a little 'soft'. But yeah, very easy to assemble and pretty robust. Looking forward to buying a squad box and converting them a little bit, perhaps seeing if someone makes alternate bases! The xenomorphs are just a treat. I've done half of mine so far, making sure I pose them all individually and mixing/matching the various head/tail/arm options to get the widest visual variety.


Ah that's interesting, can you actually swap the bits of the Aliens around without too much trouble?

I didn't know if they were tied by each miniature and letter designation (as there seem to be 'A's, B's, C's etc.)


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 18:09:39


Post by: judgedoug


 Pacific wrote:

Ah that's interesting, can you actually swap the bits of the Aliens around without too much trouble?

I didn't know if they were tied by each miniature and letter designation (as there seem to be 'A's, B's, C's etc.)


each body has a choice of two heads - so the two "A" heads can be used on the "A" body. The arms are all completely modular. As are the tails. I've also noticed the back ribbing smartly seems to extend to four "cardinal" points on the tails so you can rotate tails 90/180/270 and they still work - it helps create a sense of motion as if the xeno just leapt up or just turned left/right, etc. iirc the warrior alien suits in Aliens '86 also had a shorter tail (for practical filming reasons) so I am considering shortening the tails by 25% on the eventual box of Xenos I'll buy. edit: maybe more than 25%. I'm looking at my NECA 1/4 alien warrior based on the "hero" suits in the film and it has a much shorter tail


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 18:21:24


Post by: Sabotage!


Been watching some reviews on this an it seems really cool (not to mention the Alien IP being my favorite Sci-Fi IP). The game looks much better than the monstrosity thrown together by Prodos, and the minis look pretty decent.

If GF9 got the rights to all the Prodos files, I really hope they do some extended universe packs with some different missions and make some HIPS Generic Marines, Weyland Commandos, Alien Royal Guards/ Stalkers, etc.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 18:34:42


Post by: judgedoug


 Sabotage! wrote:
If GF9 got the rights to all the Prodos files, I really hope they do some extended universe packs with some different missions and make some HIPS Generic Marines, Weyland Commandos, Alien Royal Guards/ Stalkers, etc.


Not sure of any of the legal aspects. I do see from the GF9/Aliens press kit that the only reference is specifically to the _ALIENS_ film trademark, so GF9 might only have the 1986 film.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 18:39:30


Post by: Sabotage!


 judgedoug wrote:
 Sabotage! wrote:
If GF9 got the rights to all the Prodos files, I really hope they do some extended universe packs with some different missions and make some HIPS Generic Marines, Weyland Commandos, Alien Royal Guards/ Stalkers, etc.


Not sure of any of the legal aspects. I do see from the GF9/Aliens press kit that the only reference is specifically to the _ALIENS_ film trademark, so GF9 might only have the 1986 film.


Ah, that's a bit of a bummer. Those Prodos sculpts were really nice and it would a shame to see them not in production.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 18:55:31


Post by: judgedoug


 Sabotage! wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:
 Sabotage! wrote:
If GF9 got the rights to all the Prodos files, I really hope they do some extended universe packs with some different missions and make some HIPS Generic Marines, Weyland Commandos, Alien Royal Guards/ Stalkers, etc.


Not sure of any of the legal aspects. I do see from the GF9/Aliens press kit that the only reference is specifically to the _ALIENS_ film trademark, so GF9 might only have the 1986 film.


Ah, that's a bit of a bummer. Those Prodos sculpts were really nice and it would a shame to see them not in production.


Who knows what the entirety of the licensing picture is. Heck, if it sells like gangbusters then perhaps GF9 has the ability to widen it. TBH a board game on Fiorina 161 with a single ai controlled xenomorph hunting down prisoners and Ripley while they are trying to trap/kill it sounds like it could also be super exciting.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 19:46:12


Post by: Manchu


From what we have so far, it seems like a license narrowly tailored to Aliens (1986).

Board games that recreate the scenes from Alien and Alien 3 in the same way that this one recreates scenes from Aliens would call for their own substantially different rule sets. I’d certainly be down to play them.

Of course the Alien movie that would probably make the best board game is also one of the least liked — Resurrection.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 19:47:16


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 Manchu wrote:
Separate miniatures? Separate miniatures.



LINK

12x xenomorphs = 25 USD

queen = 15 USD

Amazing!


cheers for that, dirt cheap shipping in the UK at least too


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 22:09:37


Post by: Gallahad


Ooh man, I'm completely out of money for the month or I'd snatch those up. Hopefully the prices last.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/18 23:37:20


Post by: zend


I wonder if they got the rights to the unicast molds that Prodos made. Some of them were really nice, like the Queen and the warriors.

But here’s to them acquiring the AvP license and picking up where Prodos left off, I’d love to get more Predator minis.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/19 02:38:46


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Will these be hitting Miniature Market or even Amazon?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/19 04:30:30


Post by: Stormonu


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Will these be hitting Miniature Market or even Amazon?


I bought mine off Miniature Market - if you buy the 3 base sets, you get the extra obstacle miniatures for free even. I haven't checked Amazon.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/19 09:12:48


Post by: Manchu


He’s asking about the miniatures, not the board game.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/19 20:12:06


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Indeed, I am.

In the meantime, does anyone have some spare alien heads they would be willing to mail to me for a few bucks? I’m itching to use some on a Medge Broken, Einherjar, or Mantic Abyssal for that Freeza transformation look.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/20 11:04:09


Post by: Pacific


Anyone in the US should be able to help you with that one Bob, have got a pile of those heads left over and now just have to think what to do with them!

 Sabotage! wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:
 Sabotage! wrote:
If GF9 got the rights to all the Prodos files, I really hope they do some extended universe packs with some different missions and make some HIPS Generic Marines, Weyland Commandos, Alien Royal Guards/ Stalkers, etc.


Not sure of any of the legal aspects. I do see from the GF9/Aliens press kit that the only reference is specifically to the _ALIENS_ film trademark, so GF9 might only have the 1986 film.


Ah, that's a bit of a bummer. Those Prodos sculpts were really nice and it would a shame to see them not in production.


Yes very true! Although it feels like part of what makes this game a good package is it's narrow focus. The rule designers have been able to make a game that has a relatively simple concept (Marines trying to survive and do stuff while being attacked by Aliens) and the mechanics work very well in that scenario. So a bit like Space Hulk in that regard.

I felt part of what went wrong with AvP was that it tried to do too much at once (marines vs. aliens vs predators) but then the rule mechanics felt all over the place and it didn't do any one part of it particularly well.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/20 11:23:43


Post by: Manchu


I enjoyed The Hunt Begins. I think the way Prodos (mis)handled the KS precluded some people giving (that version of) their game a fair chance, similar to how many people could not look past Palladium’s absurd antics to give RoboTech RPG Tactics a chance.

Nevertheless, Another Glorious Day is a very narrowly focused game. It is exclusively about the tone/pace/themes of Aliens (1986).


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/21 18:32:18


Post by: judgedoug


Now the real question is which foam manufacturer will be the first to market for an foam storage solution for the game + expansions?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/26 11:07:48


Post by: stonehorse


Received my copy of Another Glorious Day in the Corps for Christmas. Really looking forward to gettingnit to the table. Luckily it can be played as a single player, so may get some gaming in during these Covid-19 times.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/26 14:25:51


Post by: CptJake


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
Separate miniatures? Separate miniatures.



LINK

16x xenomorphs = 25 USD

queen = 15 USD

Amazing!


cheers for that, dirt cheap shipping in the UK at least too


The Xenomorph box is 12 critters, not 16.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/26 17:58:45


Post by: Manchu


Thanks, corrected the number in my post.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/28 00:46:17


Post by: Grimoir


Thanks for posting this. I'm a huge Aliens fan and have ordered this !


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/28 19:08:35


Post by: Samsonov


Managed to get a copy of the main game. Quick review of the models: The Aliens are excellent. They have a good variety of poses, admittedly less than the prodos resin ones, but enough of them. The detail is good. They are easy to assemble. They allow plenty of combinations since the arms and tails can be used on any of them. As for the marines, I would be tempted to say that they are the least detailed 28mm plastic models I have bought in the last decade (granted, this is the first board game I have bought), but at the same time they are really not all that bad. The detail is present and they take paint relatively well (you can easily get 'tabletop standard' with these). Whilst the level of detail is not ideal, they convincing come across as the characters in the film. As for scaling with Prodos marines, they are far from an exact match but you could probably get away with it. Personally, I will be using them separately.

Anyway, a question. How you would paint the metal on the guns? It is sort of a shiny black in the pictures online. I was thinking black (vallejo black) with a highlight of dark silver (gw leadblecher). Any thoughts?



[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/28 19:49:03


Post by: Manchu


It’s funny to read a mini gamer’s review, praising the xenomorph figs and being criticl about the marines. This is the exact opposite of board gamers’ reviews, where they say the marines are great and the aliens are an absolute nightmare (because of ease/difficulty of assembly).


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/28 20:47:29


Post by: Casbyness


The problem with the alien minis is you can easily glue the two halves of a body together before adding the head/spine, which then prevents you from adding the head/spine

You then havve to file down the inner side of the spine to fit the head on properly.

I love all the minis, the Prodos xenos look fine with the marines in this game.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/28 21:26:03


Post by: RegularGuy


Looks interesting. Still playing the original by Leading Edge Games here...


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/29 14:03:30


Post by: Max Moray


A (badly lit) comparison pic of various 32mm xenomorphs.



From left to right: GF9, Prodos AvP Kickstarter, Prodos AvP 2nd edition box, Prodos AvP 1st edition, Horrorclix

The ones by GF9 are about the size of the 1st edition Prodos. It's the base or the pic that make them appear slightly smaller I believe.

I think they are all compatible and like the early ones by Prodos the most. The ones by GF9 are also great, AvP 2nd edition (box) and Horrorclix are still very ok.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/30 10:10:11


Post by: morganfreeman


Any word on if the box-miniature releases, or the game itself, is a limited run sort of thing?

To gauge whether it's a "must buy now," or "should still be here in 6-12 months" sort of thing.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/30 15:26:07


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 morganfreeman wrote:
Any word on if the box-miniature releases, or the game itself, is a limited run sort of thing?

To gauge whether it's a "must buy now," or "should still be here in 6-12 months" sort of thing.


Very hard to tell, nothing is called out as LE, and if your paying for a licence you'd want at least a couple of years just so that if something went wrong in production you'd still have a decent sales window

but if Galeforce 9 treats this like a boardgame (as opposed to a minis line) we may be looking at a single print run which will be allowed to sell out before they decide whether to reprint it. Hopefully sales numbers are good enough that there will be at least one reprint if not more,

but I know that some of their licenced D&D stuff spent so much time unavailable after the initial release I gave up on ever getting hold of them

so if you really want it sooner rather than later may be the best choice


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2020/12/30 22:34:25


Post by: Robert Facepalmer


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 morganfreeman wrote:
Any word on if the box-miniature releases, or the game itself, is a limited run sort of thing?

To gauge whether it's a "must buy now," or "should still be here in 6-12 months" sort of thing.


Very hard to tell, nothing is called out as LE, and if your paying for a licence you'd want at least a couple of years just so that if something went wrong in production you'd still have a decent sales window

but if Galeforce 9 treats this like a boardgame (as opposed to a minis line) we may be looking at a single print run which will be allowed to sell out before they decide whether to reprint it. Hopefully sales numbers are good enough that there will be at least one reprint if not more,

but I know that some of their licenced D&D stuff spent so much time unavailable after the initial release I gave up on ever getting hold of them

so if you really want it sooner rather than later may be the best choice


Considering that non-US distros didn't get their full orders, signs point to buy it if you can find it.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/01 23:28:09


Post by: Ktulhut


 judgedoug wrote:
I am considering shortening the tails by 25% on the eventual box of Xenos I'll buy. edit: maybe more than 25%. I'm looking at my NECA 1/4 alien warrior based on the "hero" suits in the film and it has a much shorter tail


Seems like a fair bit of effort given that the re-used Prodos designs aren't based on the Aliens suits in the first place. Very much their own take on the creatures, with more of an AvP: Requiem bent than anything else.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/02 10:31:46


Post by: Samsonov


Some UK stores are listing dates when new stock will be available. Whether those dates are accurate, who knows, but it suggests an intention that there will be more available.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/03 05:58:27


Post by: Manchu


There’s probably no correlation between demand for the board game and demand for the miniatures.

Board gamers have been complaining loudly about having to assemble miniatures at all. Those guys are not going to be buying up all the minis.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/03 12:14:33


Post by: Pacific


 Samsonov wrote:
Managed to get a copy of the main game. Quick review of the models: The Aliens are excellent. They have a good variety of poses, admittedly less than the prodos resin ones, but enough of them. The detail is good. They are easy to assemble. They allow plenty of combinations since the arms and tails can be used on any of them. As for the marines, I would be tempted to say that they are the least detailed 28mm plastic models I have bought in the last decade (granted, this is the first board game I have bought), but at the same time they are really not all that bad. The detail is present and they take paint relatively well (you can easily get 'tabletop standard' with these). Whilst the level of detail is not ideal, they convincing come across as the characters in the film.


It's good that you added the clarification about board games, because I think it's a good distinction to make. The marines aren't up to the detail level of something like say a new GW or FFG/Legion release. But, I would say by comparison with other board games they are pretty good and better than a lot of other comparable board game releases.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/11 19:20:39


Post by: Billicus


My standalone marines and aliums turned up at the weekend. I've built the marines, they're nicely detailed but yes, the realistic proportions at this scale have resulted in quite shallow detail, will need careful painting to get good results.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/17 00:30:53


Post by: Eilif


Just stumbled on these. Very cool. Might have to buy.

Never would have thought GF9 would sell ALIENS figures as cheap as the classic Chub Pearson sculpted Denizen not-colonial-marines.

http://www.denizenminiatures.co.uk/
Actually much better figs than the catalog scan would indicate.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/17 14:34:22


Post by: CptJake


Wow, that is fantastic.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/17 15:43:25


Post by: Eilif


Excellent work!
None of us can blame "the figures" again.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/19 11:42:00


Post by: Huron black heart


I'm a bit late to the party on this, does anyone know the best place to pick any of this stock up in the UK, main game or the individual boxes of models?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/19 11:58:04


Post by: Slipstream


As far as I know Element Games, The Outpost and Marionville Models sell the range.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/19 14:47:04


Post by: Huron black heart


Slipstream wrote:
As far as I know Element Games, The Outpost and Marionville Models sell the range.


I noticed Gale Force 9 sell through Amazon too so picked up the Heroes of Hadleys Hope set, 20quid delivered sounded good to me. I would have got the core set had they had any in stock.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/19 15:26:58


Post by: Gallahad


Well, if that is what they look like with a legend like dwartist doing the painting they aren't worth my time. Dwartist's paint job looks good of course, but they won't look good with someone like me slapping paint on them.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/19 16:38:43


Post by: Samsonov


I think only Gale Force 9 sell the models on their own, except the assets and hazards box which other retailers seem to have as well. They send from the UK (you just need to click on the flag where it says 'select price region')


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/20 13:19:25


Post by: Huron black heart


So, ordered yesterday day using standard shipping, they arrived today. And must say, I'm seriously impressed with the models, and I'm more of a painter/collector than a boardgamer. Detail is crisp, the Carter Burke model looks like Paul Reiser. The marines have helmets, and equipment covering eyes/mouths so you can't see their facial features as much.
I'm certain an average painter will get these looking nice, I'm nothing special and will post my efforts when done.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/20 13:54:52


Post by: Zwan1One


 Huron black heart wrote:
Slipstream wrote:
As far as I know Element Games, The Outpost and Marionville Models sell the range.


I noticed Gale Force 9 sell through Amazon too so picked up the Heroes of Hadleys Hope set, 20quid delivered sounded good to me. I would have got the core set had they had any in stock.


Good spot. Didn’t know they were on amazon. Now to order the aliens or heroes?


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/22 12:13:40


Post by: Col Hammer


Well, my pre-order (made through the store) finally arrived in my neck of Woods. Will be picking it up later today.
Then I'll see what they are like myself. (ordered the whole game - four boxes).

Still mourning the missing Ferro and Spunkmeyer figures though - the collection remains incomplete. My FOMO sense is tingling.


[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Minis Available Separately (p. 3) @ 2021/01/22 12:26:41


Post by: lord_blackfang


Anyone have thoughts on gameplay?