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The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 12:46:40


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Said I wouldn’t do it this year, but here I am, doing it. Unless I get ninja’d in which case bagsy mine gets closed!

5 January 2021



Reckon it’s to do with the mono-wheel from weeks past, which I reckon is legit attached to a Squig.

12 January 2021



A cursed villager.

19 January 2021



26 January 2021 - something gribbly this way comes.



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The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 13:59:06


Post by: JWBS


Rokkit.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 14:04:04


Post by: the_scotsman


Yep, looks pretty clearly like either a 40k ork thing or one of the scruffier Necromunda gangs maybe. 90% on ork. Absolutely unclear what though, could be a vehicle, could be a tankbusta rokkit hammer, could be a mega-armor boss, could be any model with a kombirokkit.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 14:13:34


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Could be Bioniks again - Kustom Thrusta Boosta.

I’d effing love it if Orks got back some of their nuttiness. Cyborks could look proper ace on the field.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 14:22:05


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Yes please! Silly orks got me into 40k 30 years ago, then they got all grimdark and now I'm collecting even more dour stuff like Sisters or Chaos. Come back, silly orks


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 15:12:32


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Said I wouldn’t do it this year, but here I am, doing it. Unless I get ninja’d in which case bagsy mine gets closed!

5 January 2021



Reckon it’s to do with the mono-wheel from weeks past, which I reckon is legit attached to a Squig.


90% Ork, which means there's a 90% chance we'll know what this is in about 7 months.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 15:23:05


Post by: terry


aren't the orks with "jumppacks" still finecast?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 15:23:27


Post by: nels1031


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

90% Ork, which means there's a 90% chance we'll know what this is in about 7 months.


Orktober mini confirmed!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
terry wrote:
aren't the orks with "jumppacks" still finecast?


If you are referring to Stormboyz, they have have been a full plastic kit for quite a while now.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 15:34:04


Post by: Tiberius501


Ah man... I’m getting way too ahead of myself but... could... could we see a Necron-esk refresh of the Ork line? *touch wood*


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 15:40:33


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Tiberius501 wrote:
Ah man... I’m getting way too ahead of myself but... could... could we see a Necron-esk refresh of the Ork line? *touch wood*


Ha!
Never.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 15:41:44


Post by: Grimskul


It might be a plastic clampack remake of Zagstruk. Or a possible Stormnobz kit.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 15:42:45


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Tiberius501 wrote:
Ah man... I’m getting way too ahead of myself but... could... could we see a Necron-esk refresh of the Ork line? *touch wood*


It seems possible. From memory (not an Ork player myself) they don’t have a huge amount of Finecast stuff left (Tankbustas, Kommandos, Characters?) so an update could be refreshing existing models (Nobs could do with it. Nothing fundamentally wrong, just don’t like some of the bitz myself)

The addition of Cyborks certainly seems possible!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 15:46:53


Post by: Grimskul


 Tiberius501 wrote:
Ah man... I’m getting way too ahead of myself but... could... could we see a Necron-esk refresh of the Ork line? *touch wood*


I actually wouldn't want that to be honest. I like the current modularity between a lot of the major Ork kits, you can easily make a unit of tankbustas from the extra pieces from rokkit launchas in both lootas and boyz kits, while everything matches up head and arms wise with swaps. The way GW currently makes its kits is very monopose and restricted, and that would be antithethical to the Ork players converting and kitbashing stuff. I also wouldn't want them scaling the boyz differently and invalidating every Ork players 100+ boyz as well. All GW has to do is make Nobz troops and that gives you your "bigger" more modern Ork option.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 15:59:09


Post by: Tastyfish


Snakebites could do with a bit more to focus around, so could also be reimagined Cyboars.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 16:10:15


Post by: Kanluwen


 Tastyfish wrote:
Snakebites could do with a bit more to focus around, so could also be reimagined Cyboars.

There was a tease of something that might have been a Snakebite model back in the 'New Edition, New Models' bit.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 16:11:30


Post by: Grimskul


 Tastyfish wrote:
Snakebites could do with a bit more to focus around, so could also be reimagined Cyboars.


Even when GW did separate subfaction rules supplements for non-SM factions, I don't think they ever released a faction specific model for them, barring Ynnari. So I couldn't see them releasing a plastic kit that only applies for Snakebites.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 16:21:51


Post by: Jadenim


 Grimskul wrote:
It might be a plastic clampack remake of Zagstruk. Or a possible Stormnobz kit.


The stormboyz are one of the newer plastic kits in the Ork line (although probably about 10 years old at this point!), so I doubt that. Zagstruk is a definite possibility though, as it really looks like a Rokkit pack to me (and I’ve been building a bunch of stormboyz over Christmas).

Wasn’t the sneak peak video suspected to be a new Kommando? Replacing Zagstruk, Snikrot and the Kommandos would seem to be a logical move.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 16:23:33


Post by: Oguhmek


Looks like either a Tankbusta backpack (yay, plastic Tankbustas!) or a bomb squig (yay, plastic Tankbustas!)


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 16:34:07


Post by: Kanluwen


 Jadenim wrote:

Wasn’t the sneak peak video suspected to be a new Kommando? Replacing Zagstruk, Snikrot and the Kommandos would seem to be a logical move.

It would be a really weird Kommando if that's the case. 0:20 is the Ork.

Spoiler:



Interesting to note that it's 5 models teased, and 3 are now known. Lelith and the Palatine are a battlebox, Death Guard guy is a solo release, and that leaves the Skitarii and Ork...who could be a battlebox as well?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 17:13:05


Post by: lord_blackfang


This looks like an ammo pack, not a flight pack. Along with the squig we're probably looking at plastic Tankbustas.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 17:14:06


Post by: GaroRobe


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Jadenim wrote:

Wasn’t the sneak peak video suspected to be a new Kommando? Replacing Zagstruk, Snikrot and the Kommandos would seem to be a logical move.

It would be a really weird Kommando if that's the case. 0:20 is the Ork.

Spoiler:



Interesting to note that it's 5 models teased, and 3 are now known. Lelith and the Palatine are a battlebox, Death Guard guy is a solo release, and that leaves the Skitarii and Ork...who could be a battlebox as well?


I definitely don't think the ork in the video is a kommando. Looks more snakebitey, and less "stealth ork ninja." But we do have a rumor engine with a clawed hand, which I think could be for Orks. Plus, this image and what people assume to be a squig wheel could mean new tankbustas. Those models (save for the squigs) need to be remade


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 17:23:31


Post by: Coenus Scaldingus


 Tiberius501 wrote:
Ah man... I’m getting way too ahead of myself but... could... could we see a Necron-esk refresh of the Ork line? *touch wood*
Yes, you're getting way ahead of yourself. If 1 new figure is previewed, at most expect 1 new figure with the off chance of it actually being something else anyway. Orks are certainly getting something; best not to get your hopes up for more than that something. And certainly not a huge amount of somethings, not any time soon. Big release waves are rare, and I'm not sure Orks would be the most likely recipient anyway.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 17:32:09


Post by: ceorron


I know the ork range very well.

Seems likely that it is a plastic tankbusta rokkit.

Meaning we are looking at plastic tankbusta/kommando kit.

As well as whatever ork is in that teaser trailer.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 20:51:44


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 ceorron wrote:
I know the ork range very well.

Seems likely that it is a plastic tankbusta rokkit.

Meaning we are looking at plastic tankbusta/kommando kit.

As well as whatever ork is in that teaser trailer.


Don't get your hopes up.
Furthermore, whatever it is we have a good 5-6 months/a year of waiting ahead of us before we figure it out.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 21:10:02


Post by: GaroRobe


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 ceorron wrote:
I know the ork range very well.

Seems likely that it is a plastic tankbusta rokkit.

Meaning we are looking at plastic tankbusta/kommando kit.

As well as whatever ork is in that teaser trailer.


Don't get your hopes up.
Furthermore, whatever it is we have a good 5-6 months/a year of waiting ahead of us before we figure it out.


I don't doubt it will be a while, but since they teased the ork character months back, it could be a bit closer than we expect. Unless the ork character is just crammed into an ad mech v ork box, a la Lelith and the Palantine


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 21:14:19


Post by: Voss


 GaroRobe wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 ceorron wrote:
I know the ork range very well.

Seems likely that it is a plastic tankbusta rokkit.

Meaning we are looking at plastic tankbusta/kommando kit.

As well as whatever ork is in that teaser trailer.


Don't get your hopes up.
Furthermore, whatever it is we have a good 5-6 months/a year of waiting ahead of us before we figure it out.


I don't doubt it will be a while, but since they teased the ork character months back, it could be a bit closer than we expect. Unless the ork character is just crammed into an ad mech v ork box, a la Lelith and the Palantine


That's not unlikely.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/05 21:36:49


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Bomb squig.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/07 12:37:19


Post by: Bonde


I'm thinking that it looks quite a bit like back end of a Tankbusta's Tankhamma!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/08 11:16:47


Post by: Tastyfish


 Grimskul wrote:
 Tastyfish wrote:
Snakebites could do with a bit more to focus around, so could also be reimagined Cyboars.


Even when GW did separate subfaction rules supplements for non-SM factions, I don't think they ever released a faction specific model for them, barring Ynnari. So I couldn't see them releasing a plastic kit that only applies for Snakebites.


I don't mean something unique to Snakebites, but a unit that is a bit of a 'signature unit' like bikes and buggies are for Evil Sun, Komandos for Blood Axe and lootas are for Deff Skull.

Lots of boyz, boarz and wyrdboyz (and perhaps a Squiggoth or two) would be a nicely themed Snakebite force, even if you could put any of those units in a different Ork army and not have them look out of place.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/08 12:39:49


Post by: Jackal90


 Tastyfish wrote:
 Grimskul wrote:
 Tastyfish wrote:
Snakebites could do with a bit more to focus around, so could also be reimagined Cyboars.


Even when GW did separate subfaction rules supplements for non-SM factions, I don't think they ever released a faction specific model for them, barring Ynnari. So I couldn't see them releasing a plastic kit that only applies for Snakebites.


I don't mean something unique to Snakebites, but a unit that is a bit of a 'signature unit' like bikes and buggies are for Evil Sun, Komandos for Blood Axe and lootas are for Deff Skull.

Lots of boyz, boarz and wyrdboyz (and perhaps a Squiggoth or two) would be a nicely themed Snakebite force, even if you could put any of those units in a different Ork army and not have them look out of place.




I’m honestly surprised that we haven’t already seen a plastic squiggoth as it ticks a lot of boxes at once.
Capability to make a large model? Yes
Is it popular? Yes
Can it have multiple options? Yes
Is it a big flashy model for an army, like we see a lot now? Yes

They have far larger and more complex kits already.
Hell, ogors have a multi part beast that’s already more complicated and not far off the regular squiggoth size.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/08 23:09:57


Post by: ceorron


Orks are really missing a lot.

Missing:

Boar Boyz
Nobz on Boars
Nob bikers
Squiggoth
Ork Warboss in Mega armour
Ork Warboss on bike
'Ard Boyz ??
Battlefortress ??
Something else from Epic (Mekboy speedsta maybe, Weirdboy tower?)
wazdakka (and other characters)

Some characters - No Nazdreg
No Runtherder character

Missing in plastic:

Mad Dok Grotsnik
Ork Boss Zagstruk
Ork Nob With Waaagh! Banner
Weirdboy/Warphead
Ork Boss Snikrot
Kaptin Badrukk
Ork Warboss
Deffkoptas
Ork Tankbustas
Ork Kommandos

This is particularly bad for Snakebite players that don't get much at all at the moment.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/11 08:12:56


Post by: Bonde


We also have rules for the regular KFF Big Mek, but no model for that is sold right now.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/11 18:07:17


Post by: ceorron


 Bonde wrote:
We also have rules for the regular KFF Big Mek, but no model for that is sold right now.


Oh yeah, how could I forget that one too?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 03:27:54


Post by: v0iddrgn


Plastic TANKBUSTAS are coming. Make more sense than redoing the Stormboyz plastic kit.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 09:29:17


Post by: Dysartes


Do we have a list anywhere of the Rumour Engine posts from 2020 that haven't been matched to a model yet? Might be worth including the "unsolved" in here too.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 09:30:41


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Only in last year’s thread. At least on Dakka.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 11:39:11


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Warboss Kurgan is always very up to date on this, no need to replicate this on Dakka IMHO - https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 11:51:09


Post by: Carlovonsexron


its nice.to be able.to stay on Dallas though, and I appreciate the under sung deeds of any and all rumor engine updaters!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 13:04:11


Post by: Pointer5


The top rocket is a common design on the boyz kit. The whole thing looks like it could be attached to a backpack. I would love a plastic squiggoth kit. It would help add character to the ork line. I use to kitbash the fantasy orcs with the 40k orks to make my snakebites boyz. It would be good to see some clan specific bits to spice up my different boyz units. Hopefully we see some of the gaps filled in the ork line soon.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 13:08:23


Post by: terry



So a lizard on some cloth


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 13:13:46


Post by: Carlovonsexron


could also be stone!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 13:15:20


Post by: Jackal90


Looking at what was posted above my Mobilesuit, I honestly expect to see a chunk of death this year.

We have a weapon that is bone reaper (really unmistakeable)
Tons of undead looking parts.

The crab claw could be a weird one though.
Too crab like for slaanesh, so my bets are either deepkin or (please be) vampire coast.


At this point in time, vampire coast would be an easy sale.
Lore, artwork, ideas etc - it’s already there.
We even have in-depth unit info thanks to total war.
They have all the groundwork laid for them.

They are a popular concept already and plenty of people like them.

They can be different enough from what we already have in the death line.


It’s generally wishful thinking, but I’d love to see it this year.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 13:15:53


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Clearly a villager that fell foul of a witch.

I’m ensured he’ll make a full recovery.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 13:21:01


Post by: terry


Jackal90 wrote:
Looking at what was posted above my Mobilesuit, I honestly expect to see a chunk of death this year.

We have a weapon that is bone reaper (really unmistakeable)
Tons of undead looking parts.

The crab claw could be a weird one though.
Too crab like for slaanesh, so my bets are either deepkin or (please be) vampire coast.


At this point in time, vampire coast would be an easy sale.
Lore, artwork, ideas etc - it’s already there.
We even have in-depth unit info thanks to total war.
They have all the groundwork laid for them.

They are a popular concept already and plenty of people like them.

They can be different enough from what we already have in the death line.


It’s generally wishful thinking, but I’d love to see it this year.

the bonereaper weapon is most likely for the underworld warband that will come this year


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 13:27:02


Post by: Kanluwen


Vampire Coast, as far as I have seen, is not a thing in AoS...which would make it extremely unlikely for the crabclaw to be tied to them.

On the flipside though, it would be interesting to start to see some of the warbeasts that the Idoneth Embailors(the beastmasters only mentioned in lore so far) via Underworlds.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 14:16:00


Post by: Mr_Rose


Carlovonsexron wrote:
could also be stone!

Or a leaf!

Unfortunately it’s a bit too terrain-y for a blood bowl team so I guess the new Amazons will have to wait for a while.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 14:56:19


Post by: Quasistellar


I'm crossing my fingers for Seraphon


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 15:05:37


Post by: GaroRobe


 Kanluwen wrote:
Vampire Coast, as far as I have seen, is not a thing in AoS...which would make it extremely unlikely for the crabclaw to be tied to them.

On the flipside though, it would be interesting to start to see some of the warbeasts that the Idoneth Embailors(the beastmasters only mentioned in lore so far) via Underworlds.


Given that we have the Lumineth getting multiple factions, sort of like stormcast chambers, it would be nice to have some deepkin groups, besides "regular elves with eyes" and "eyeless pale elves." I've always assumed whatever the claw rumor engine is, is a hand, but it totally could be just an AOS crab and one of the Underworld "pets", alongside the Godsworn dog, sabretusk, and a few other things.

Although I don't think we have any Vampire Coast lore bits, a lot of factions have been introduced and handwaved as being part of the "necroquake" or hidden until now. Plus, that New Year's Eve video showed a guy that looks like he has a nautical themed cloak (though it wasn't covered in barnacles and that seems like something GW would do)


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 15:51:04


Post by: Carlovonsexron


Quasistellar wrote:
I'm crossing my fingers for Seraphon


Same!

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Carlovonsexron wrote:
could also be stone!

Or a leaf!

Unfortunately it’s a bit too terrain-y for a blood bowl team so I guess the new Amazons will have to wait for a while.


I would LOVE for the Amazons to show up for bloodbowl, but at the same time am really afraid they are just gonna be Eschers under a different name. But at the time time the new slaaneshi mortals give me a limited amount of hope that GW could find the right balance between cool, classy, and old school "pulp-amazon" aesthetics that the old models and PC game had.

But I'm not expecting it.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 20:15:43


Post by: jaredb


The lizard could be part of an artwork as well, and not a model. They teased Warhammer: Underworlds game boards with the rumour engine before, and the cover of the 8th edition index books.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 22:42:11


Post by: ceorron


Possibly Sylvaneth, "spirit".


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/12 22:42:37


Post by: Jackal90


 Kanluwen wrote:
Vampire Coast, as far as I have seen, is not a thing in AoS...which would make it extremely unlikely for the crabclaw to be tied to them.

On the flipside though, it would be interesting to start to see some of the warbeasts that the Idoneth Embailors(the beastmasters only mentioned in lore so far) via Underworlds.



I’ll dig out the book as it’s mentioned a few times in one of the battletomes.
Granted, it’s not a 5 page spread, but it mentions them plenty, so it’s an acknowledgment of their existence.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/13 00:04:28


Post by: Kanluwen


The closest I can think of was the Wraith Fleet from the Firestorm Campaign...and that was more just "Nagash undead" than "Vampire Coast".

Vampires, as far as we've seen in AoS, aren't free to act like they were in WHFB. Nagash has a hold on things.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 ceorron wrote:
Possibly Sylvaneth, "spirit".

There was a tease of something Sylvaneth-y a few months back so that might be part of the base.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/13 00:53:29


Post by: Jackal90


It’s in soul bound.
Varkos Varactyr (vampire) Leads the wraith fleet.
An undead navy comprised of deathrattle, dead walkers and nighthaunt.

Knew I’d seen it somewhere.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/13 02:50:48


Post by: Danny76


 Mr_Rose wrote:
Carlovonsexron wrote:
could also be stone!

Or a leaf!

Unfortunately it’s a bit too terrain-y for a blood bowl team so I guess the new Amazons will have to wait for a while.


I immediately thought of sat on a leaf also..


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 jaredb wrote:
The lizard could be part of an artwork as well, and not a model. They teased Warhammer: Underworlds game boards with the rumour engine before, and the cover of the 8th edition index books.


They did.
But I’d say that is clearly a model.
You can see the paint job.

The last art they’ve done that way was a silhouette so could have gone either way


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/13 09:12:20


Post by: Lord Perversor


Just to saying cuz no one else said it but a lizard on top a kind of jungle leaf...

That's Catachan plastic troops for sure


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/13 09:25:41


Post by: ceorron


 Lord Perversor wrote:
Just to saying cuz no one else said it but a lizard on top a kind of jungle leaf...

That's Catachan plastic troops for sure


Lets hope. Actually lets hope all the imperial guard get plastics (with the exception of Cadia of course).


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/13 09:30:01


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Could be another Catachan collectors character

I could do with a third.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 10:54:57


Post by: Lord Perversor




So just updating this one btw.

It's me or could be something quite large? the upper side of the spiral thing looks like it's where 2 piezes interlock and glue to get some stability.
That or some strong shade to mark a transition from the effect to something solid?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 11:06:58


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Top right we seem to be seeing cloth emerging from the wafty?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 11:12:31


Post by: lord_blackfang


Yeah looks like there's ribbons in that swirl.

Wind elf big thing?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 11:33:31


Post by: Tiberius501


Yeah I reckon it’ll be the wind spirit for the Lumineth. The cloth ribbon parts remind me a lot of the cloth on other Lumineth models with the trimming.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 12:41:06


Post by: Fayric


Could it be a squignado endless spell?
I dont recall Squiggs getting any endless spells so far...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 12:51:49


Post by: Danny76


The ribbons carry on upwards to the cloak/clothes of the character above the wind swirls perhaps..


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 13:20:16


Post by: DaveC


This weeks



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 13:29:34


Post by: lord_blackfang


Varghulf? Pretty please?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 13:30:32


Post by: terry


the thing the foot(?) is on has a seraphon feel to it


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 13:35:40


Post by: Lucas Blackwolf


terry wrote:
the thing the foot(?) is on has a seraphon feel to it


Far too curly ... would work with vampires though.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 13:48:45


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


This little piggy went to market

This little piggy stayed home

This little piggy had roast beef

This little piggy got bored, and the Varghulf it’s attached to kicked all my teeth out

I hate this stupid game. Ouch.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 15:27:28


Post by: Mr_Rose


It’s gotta be one of those kangaroo/taun-taun archers standing on a Tactical Rock™

Or it’s a squig again.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 15:43:36


Post by: terry


 Mr_Rose wrote:
It’s gotta be one of those kangaroo/taun-taun archers standing on a Tactical Rock™

Or it’s a squig again.

its clearly a plastic thunderhawk delivering the lion


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/19 16:24:20


Post by: GaroRobe


I can't wait to see what they look like. The Arch regent was one of the coolest models for Undead. He's got different feet, but there's only so many ways to make vampiric batmen, right?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/20 12:25:44


Post by: LiftForSwift


Are those stalactites? Or maybe vines?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/20 13:27:41


Post by: Danny76


The Underworlds vampire solves the sword or no?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/20 13:41:46


Post by: Esmer


I feel like this is the hind leg belonging to the front leg we had seen a while ago.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/20 13:59:50


Post by: DaveC


Danny76 wrote:
The Underworlds vampire solves the sword or no?


It does yes

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The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/20 14:02:22


Post by: Voss


Glad it turned out to be a glove, rather than something weird going on with the sculpt. Greyscale did it no favors.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/23 17:13:07


Post by: Coenus Scaldingus


So, with Underworlds revealed, the new Quest previewed, and a separate upcoming Vampire character for regular AoS already known too, can we put the Vampirate talk to rest for a while?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/23 17:13:53


Post by: Voss


Yep. Vampirates are sunk.

Various vampire duelists have been shown, and the hook and 'plank' are the grave digger.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/23 20:32:54


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Right, back to grot sky pirates and general squigs!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/23 20:38:40


Post by: GaroRobe


Voss wrote:
Yep. Vampirates are sunk.

Various vampire duelists and the hook and 'plank' are the grave digger.


If we ever get any vampirates, I could see it being a one-off character in the Warhammer quest as a boss. The zombie looking dude from the New Year's vid has a coat that could be pirate inspired. But since the Quest map doesn't show any bodies of water, I'm not holding my breath. Also, I guess he'd be a zombie pirate, not a vampirate


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/23 22:33:36


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Doesn't the Nundam Babe Carrier Dreadknight solve that one SOB-esque foot rumor engine?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/23 22:37:19


Post by: GaroRobe


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Doesn't the Nundam Babe Carrier Dreadknight solve that one SOB-esque foot rumor engine?


Yep. Who would have ever guessed it went to that, though?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/23 22:43:28


Post by: lord_blackfang


It was this small when I got it



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/24 01:00:46


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


I think the kneeling vampire on the map is the 'mortal' form of the parcours vampire in the video screenshot, so that's most likely just the one sword (both with a curved hilt guard) solved


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 13:11:24


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS



There’s your solitary bone for this edition


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 13:17:47


Post by: xttz


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS

There’s your solitary bone for this edition


Perhaps we get two bones! nom nom



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 13:19:11


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Nah. I reckon that’s a gribbly for something else, due to the chain. Likely AoS - possibly Cursed City.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 13:24:47


Post by: xttz


Possibly, but it does share a lot of design elements with the leg of a Hierophant.

Intentional misidrection? Maybe!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 13:24:48


Post by: terry


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS



There’s your solitary bone for this edition

it does indeed feel like nids


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 13:36:01


Post by: Danny76


 xttz wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS

There’s your solitary bone for this edition


Perhaps we get two bones! nom nom



The chain makes me 99% sure this isn’t Tyranids.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 13:48:11


Post by: deathstalker013


Space Flamingos


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 14:28:44


Post by: Voss


The paint job helps seal it as tyranids. They don't really use that stark white with dark chitin for anything else. The trailing pieces help too, though I don't recognize that particular claw design.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 14:32:42


Post by: Theophony


 xttz wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS

There’s your solitary bone for this edition


Perhaps we get two bones! nom nom



You'll get boned alright , they will both be base decorations for some special Catchcan models.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2026/07/02 12:41:31


Post by: Mr_Rose


terry wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS



There’s your solitary bone for this edition

it does indeed feel like nids

Watch it be genecult…


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 14:45:25


Post by: Spoletta


I've painted enough of those things.

That's a tyranid tentacle, you can even see the tip of another tentacle in the upper right corner.
Going by the design, it is at least medium bug sized.

Considering that Venomthropes, Toxicrene and Haruspex are already in plastic, we are looking at a new model.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 14:46:59


Post by: SamusDrake


A new Lictor kit, with the option for a Deathleaper would be pretty sweet.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 14:52:53


Post by: Necronmaniac05


I'm still hoping for a new plastic lord of war kit. A reimagined Tyranid Dominatrix with the supreme commander key word would be a big yes from me.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 14:56:01


Post by: xttz


Necronmaniac05 wrote:
I'm still hoping for a new plastic lord of war kit. A reimagined Tyranid Dominatrix with the supreme commander key word would be a big yes from me.


I have a box full of old space marine models (including two dreadnoughts) set aside to use as base decoration if we ever get a model like that


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 15:23:58


Post by: Spoletta


SamusDrake wrote:
A new Lictor kit, with the option for a Deathleaper would be pretty sweet.


Seems too flexible to be the mantis like arm of a Lictor.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 15:49:37


Post by: Kitane


Spoletta wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
A new Lictor kit, with the option for a Deathleaper would be pretty sweet.


Seems too flexible to be the mantis like arm of a Lictor.


No, but it does look like its tail.

And having an extra spike or two along the length of the tail wouldn't be unusual...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 15:57:47


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Reveal the goddamn miniatures cowards we already have a backlog of literally dozens


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 15:59:43


Post by: GaroRobe


Well, we do have that dead lictor on the base of that exclusive Catachan model, so clearly GW have at least part of a lictor model in their computers.

Which means we have hope for some new Eldar models, if Lelith's base is anything to by


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 16:19:17


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Macro flesh hooks for a lictor


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 16:35:19


Post by: hypnoticeris


Kitane wrote:
Spoletta wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
A new Lictor kit, with the option for a Deathleaper would be pretty sweet.


Seems too flexible to be the mantis like arm of a Lictor.


No, but it does look like its tail.

And having an extra spike or two along the length of the tail wouldn't be unusual...


Yep, could be the tail or a claw/weapon/thingy for a variant like Deathleaper or whatever, but I'm getting Lictor vibes from it too.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 16:46:19


Post by: TalonZahn


Squig Tail for sure


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 17:17:08


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS
Finally! The Ultramarine Tyrannic Veteran Primaris Lieutenant model is coming!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 17:22:05


Post by: Tyran


 Mr_Rose wrote:
terry wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS



There’s your solitary bone for this edition

it does indeed feel like nids

Watch it be genecult…

Technically would still be a Tyranid, GSC units have the Tyranids faction keyword.

But GSC don't tent to have as much tail and/or tentacles as Hive Fleet nids.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 17:22:21


Post by: Us3Less


What is the typical time frame for a rumor engine image to be revealed as a full model and the model subsequently being released? Is there any trend in this? I don't really follow the rumor engine much, so I have no clue about it. The friend I play most against will be very happy to hear new Tyranids might be coming. Any info you guys have would be welcome.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 17:35:41


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


nothing really, we've seen one the same week if I remember right (ripper Jackson I think it was) and others only after about 9 months to a year

and if you add covid scrambled releases to the mix who knows


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 17:50:50


Post by: xttz


Us3Less wrote:
What is the typical time frame for a rumor engine image to be revealed as a full model and the model subsequently being released? Is there any trend in this? I don't really follow the rumor engine much, so I have no clue about it. The friend I play most against will be very happy to hear new Tyranids might be coming. Any info you guys have would be welcome.


The longest I think was a Blackstone Fortress pic that took around 18 months, and sometimes they throw in ones that are only days away from reveal. But generally they tend to be 3-12 months.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/26 18:05:05


Post by: Mr_Rose


 Tyran wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
terry wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS



There’s your solitary bone for this edition

it does indeed feel like nids

Watch it be genecult…

Technically would still be a Tyranid, GSC units have the Tyranids faction keyword.

But GSC don't tent to have as much tail and/or tentacles as Hive Fleet nids.

True that… still, it could be out of left-field and be a lasher tendril from the new Battlfleet Ultramar boxed set…

Or a tenta-squig, of course.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/27 00:27:26


Post by: Acehilator


Dr. House: "It's not Nids."

The armor plate setup is wrong, Nid plates get smaller towards the tip of whatever appendage/weapon, not bigger. The orientation is wrong too, the "point" of the armor plate needs to point to the end of the appendage.

The hook is also wrong, Nids don't have "broken" lines that define the shape.


My guesses are Chaos, Vampires, Dark Eldar.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/27 01:45:32


Post by: Carnikang


It reminds me of Gargoyle tails after looking at it for a while. It could be a Lictor tail. .. but we have had a missing unit still usable in game that hasn't been legended... Legensd?

Shrikes.

Ripe for new kit and rules, and they can differentiate them from the normal winged warriors they have been for a long time.

This makes me hope for more, but if it's just one kit that's nice and good, I will be happy.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/27 04:58:06


Post by: silent25


 TalonZahn wrote:
Squig Tail for sure


Genestealer Cult Ork Freebooterz confirmed!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/27 05:17:28


Post by: Altruizine


Acehilator wrote:
Dr. House: "It's not Nids."

The armor plate setup is wrong, Nid plates get smaller towards the tip of whatever appendage/weapon, not bigger. The orientation is wrong too, the "point" of the armor plate needs to point to the end of the appendage.

The hook is also wrong, Nids don't have "broken" lines that define the shape.

No, that's not accurate.

Carnifex tail accessory (plates going small-to-large towards the tip)
Hive Tyrant tail accessory (plates going small-to-large towards the tip)

Those are just two examples that came to mind right away; there are probably more. I think the metal Deathleaper also has some "small-to-large" going on (both his tail tip, as well as his mantis claws which thicken at the business end). So "Lictor tail" might be an alright guess


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/27 08:01:16


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


We all want this to be a Tyranid more than anything

Therefore we all know it won't be a Tyranid


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/27 08:43:50


Post by: AngryAngel80


I think it's super clear, it's one of the Emperors space marines !!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/27 09:47:20


Post by: terry


its a new eldari faction, these are from the crone worlds. These worlds have been sucked up by the warp and as such the eldari living there have been warped by chaos


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/27 09:52:05


Post by: Shadow Walker


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
We all want this to be a Tyranid more than anything

Therefore we all know it won't be a Tyranid

This, although we all want to be proven wrong


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/30 22:34:55


Post by: Strat_N8


Kitane wrote:

No, but it does look like its tail.

And having an extra spike or two along the length of the tail wouldn't be unusual...


I might be mistaken, but I think the "spike" in the upper right is actually the base of the tail/lower torso (tail is probably posed coiled to the side like the Hive Tyrant's).

The tail hook does look a lot like the sort found on the current Lictor kit (albeit a bit leaner). I wonder if they might be doing a duel kit with Shrikes and Lictors? Both are based on the warrior "chassis" so in theory the only parts that would need to be changed out would be the limbs (Mantis Talons and hooved feet for Lictor, Scything Wings for Shrikes), heads, and maybe the back chitin plates. Probably all together more shared parts than the Venomthrope and Zoanthrope kit (basically a chest plate, lower legs, vents, and tail).


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/30 23:50:47


Post by: Carnikang


 Strat_N8 wrote:
Kitane wrote:

No, but it does look like its tail.

And having an extra spike or two along the length of the tail wouldn't be unusual...


I might be mistaken, but I think the "spike" in the upper right is actually the base of the tail/lower torso (tail is probably posed coiled to the side like the Hive Tyrant's).

The tail hook does look a lot like the sort found on the current Lictor kit (albeit a bit leaner). I wonder if they might be doing a duel kit with Shrikes and Lictors? Both are based on the warrior "chassis" so in theory the only parts that would need to be changed out would be the limbs (Mantis Talons and hooved feet for Lictor, Scything Wings for Shrikes), heads, and maybe the back chitin plates. Probably all together more shared parts than the Venomthrope and Zoanthrope kit (basically a chest plate, lower legs, vents, and tail).


One can hope. And if this is a dual kit, we may see adjustments to lictors and readdition of Shrikes to the fold. Perhaps broods for lictors, not just units sizes of 1.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/31 00:58:38


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Lictors I could see doing the buy multiples in a slot, deploy them separately.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/01/31 09:57:44


Post by: lord_blackfang


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ultramarine Tyrannic Veteran Primaris


Thanks I threw up a little


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 00:19:08


Post by: Amorphium


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS
Finally! The Ultramarine Tyrannic Veteran Primaris Lieutenant model is coming!


next Eldar release will be the Avatars destroyed by all the chapter masters in the last codices


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 01:41:19


Post by: Tyran


To be fair, you could make releases for all factions using that theme, as I think pretty much everyone has gotten to destroy Avatars.

E.g. I'm still waiting for my "Avatar getting swarmed by a dozen Carnifexes on Iyanden."


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 02:15:26


Post by: cody.d.


 Tyran wrote:
To be fair, you could make releases for all factions using that theme, as I think pretty much everyone has gotten to destroy Avatars.

E.g. I'm still waiting for my "Avatar getting swarmed by a dozen Carnifexes on Iyanden."


Or even better, squad of gretchin with a scavenged lasgun manage to take down an Avatar of Khaine.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 13:09:27


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik




No idea!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 13:18:15


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


looks sort of dwarfy to me, lots of amulet things hnging of those shields, but I doesn't fit burning or airship versions so another faction?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 13:30:35


Post by: lord_blackfang


Hammer, cog, axe, and there's a mountain motif on the mounting plate. Absolutely dwarf. Dwarf what? Kinda looks like armour that would hang off of a warbeast. Maaaybe evil dorfs?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 13:36:27


Post by: Kanluwen


It kind of makes me think of scenery. Some kind of workshop almost.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 13:39:47


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


The angles of the dangly bits are odd. None seem to be hanging in the same direction?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 13:44:20


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Baffling. Reminds me a bit of the 'bronze age but actually sci-fi' Dorok empire aesthetics from the Nausicaa manga. Do we already know what the "Upper Forgefloors" on the new Warcry map are? https://i.redd.it/jvo1y7t2igu51.jpg


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 13:50:08


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Do the skydwarves have a terrain piece or endless spell equivalents yet?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 14:12:06


Post by: GaroRobe


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Do the skydwarves have a terrain piece or endless spell equivalents yet?


Would KO get endless spells? Fyreslayers did, but they have priests and stuff. But I could see GW making some sort of "platform/dock" where KO ships can get healed, like a mekboy shop or whatever that knight terrain thing does


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 14:28:46


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Khorne got ritual things instead of spells. Something similar?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 14:35:16


Post by: Vovin


There is a Ven Alten Skydock location in the Warhammer Quest: Cursed City map.

The symbols look dwarfish on the one hand, but too arcane on the other hand. The star with the two horns looks almost whacky enough to be Gobbo-related. Maybe Skygoblin pirate crew that hijacked a Kharadon frigate. Or the circly symbols are aetherquarz related, maybe a refinery.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 14:55:50


Post by: lord_blackfang


I fear it has a high likelyhood of being something stupid that breaks physics and faction lore.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 14:57:41


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 lord_blackfang wrote:
I fear it has a high likelyhood of being something stupid that breaks physics and faction lore.


Physics? There ain't no Physics in AoS


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 15:43:44


Post by: Mr_Rose


I’m going for Dispossessed, possibly the armour of some kind of hulking pack animal/herd beast pressed into service as a war platform by the nomadic clans that live outside the cities.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 15:50:01


Post by: Red Corsair


 Theophony wrote:
 xttz wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
TyRaNiDs NeVeR gEt NeW mOdElS

There’s your solitary bone for this edition


Perhaps we get two bones! nom nom



You'll get boned alright , they will both be base decorations for some special Catchcan models.


That chain looks like a drukhari chain, could easily be part of a new beast pack entry.

The previous nid looking arm could also be a Khymeras back limb. That one definitely appears to be painted in Hive Fleet Leviathan colors though.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 15:55:22


Post by: GaroRobe


The tentacle does look Tyranid. But I'm wondering if the chained beast is related to the bug egg rumor engine? Could be some random ambull/vespid like creature


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 16:25:28


Post by: Darnok



Squats? Reset the clock!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 18:16:08


Post by: silverstu


Squats or a Valaya/Grungni faction for AOS? Maybe Norse dwarfs- reminds me of something Scandinavian/Russian stylistically for some reason.. Possibly something attached to a war machine/warbeast?

Nids last week, dwarfs this week.. the future s looking brighter...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 18:28:01


Post by: Voss


Figured it was just more airship dwarf stuff.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 18:48:23


Post by: lord_blackfang


Disposessed bastardized to the same degree Lumineth are, riding badger-toad-flamingoes or some gak.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/02 20:04:58


Post by: Fayric


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The angles of the dangly bits are odd. None seem to be hanging in the same direction?


Good point. Perhaps its supposed to represent dynamic movement.

Cant shake the feeling of mega gargant belly plates. And yet, these "shields" looks like they were crafted with joints and straps to fit together the way they do.
Now that I look at it, the two top "shields" look more like half spherical domes to protect a mechanism.

Great rumor teaser. I have already had dozens of feverish theories im my bevildered head.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/03 02:43:52


Post by: silent25


Possible siding/barding of some Dwarven related creature/vehicle.

Possible scenery as well.

Long shot, Fimir had Celtic/Irish iconography also.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/03 04:03:26


Post by: Carlovonsexron


I would be thrilled if it belonged to some kind of ice age looking giant beast of burden.

I also hope it comes with spare and loose versions of some.of those shields...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/03 08:29:35


Post by: Jadenim


 silent25 wrote:
Possible siding/barding of some Dwarven related creature/vehicle.

Possible scenery as well.

Long shot, Fimir had Celtic/Irish iconography also.


I don’t know about Celtic, that looks more like Byzantine/Moorish style to me.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/03 12:10:31


Post by: Cronch


It looks Generic Bronze/Early Iron Age to me really. Definitely not for any existing duardin faction in aos imo.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/04 13:31:30


Post by: Tim the Biovore




That's the halberd rumour solved, and as noted in the Cursed City thread, the rubble matches that on the base of the werewolf-ish foot and the key raven


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/04 13:35:54


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


One more thing - this rumour engine is really similar to the Cursed City skelly standard bearer's banner, but obviously not the same:


So I guess this will be a new skelly infantry box?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/04 13:42:02


Post by: lord_blackfang


Yeah there probably won't be 2 banner guys in Cursed City, so a huge hint of a multipart skelly box in the same style.

Maybe even a cavalry unit, given the size and angle.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/04 13:46:47


Post by: Kanluwen


Maybe a new skeleton infantry box, more likely it would be a new unit type between Grave Guard and Skeleton Warriors.

Random guess is that is a second banner you can build within the box, to allow for a bit of variety.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yeah there probably won't be 2 banner guys in Cursed City, so a huge hint of a multipart skelly box in the same style.

Maybe even a cavalry unit, given the size and angle.

There's probably at least two units worth, depending on how hard of an enemy these things are meant to be. I'm kind of thinking they'll be set up not unlike the Renegade Psykers in Blackstone Fortress.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/04 14:00:31


Post by: lord_blackfang


I guess there could be 2 banner builds but there's no way the box has 20 skeletons when there's 5 undead subfactions in there.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/04 14:06:16


Post by: Kanluwen


 lord_blackfang wrote:
I guess there could be 2 banner builds but there's no way the box has 20 skeletons when there's 5 undead subfactions in there.

I'm guessing it's only four 'subfactions', not five.

There's five 'Overlords' listed, but only four are showcased around the map. The fifth would be the 'Big Bad', the Lord of Ulfenkarn himself.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/04 14:19:22


Post by: Cronch


So the obviously undead halberd ended up being undead, woweee


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 13:29:33


Post by: DaveC


If that’s a gargant head it’s Probably a terrain piece or a big center piece mini



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 13:33:21


Post by: Gir Spirit Bane


 DaveC wrote:
If that’s a gargant head it’s Probably a terrain piece or a big center piece mini




I think thats a ogre personally!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 13:47:31


Post by: Sotahullu


I think its a ogre rather then gargant.

Although I just wonder was the elf-earring put on before or after ogre died?


But anyway, the pole is just that bit ramshackle that it can be either undead or ork related.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 13:50:43


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Something for Cursed City?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 14:03:11


Post by: zedmeister


Gruesome

Looking at this, there's a raft of Cursed City candidates from the rumour list: https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html#unsolved


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 14:28:40


Post by: lord_blackfang


This is Death. Orcs don't have the crossguard thing on their spears. Based on size I'd say more likely part of the upcoming AoS Death upgrade than Cursed City.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 16:09:06


Post by: GaroRobe


I keep bouncing between if its an ogor or gargant. An ogor seems more likely, but Gargant heads (at least the older kit) isn't that much bigger than a human head. It also has more neck than ogors usually get. Either way, it'll be confirmed when the model is shown off. No way they won't mention the massive head on a stick

It's got to be Cursed City, right?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 16:23:07


Post by: Altruizine


 lord_blackfang wrote:
This is Death. Orcs don't have the crossguard thing on their spears. Based on size I'd say more likely part of the upcoming AoS Death upgrade than Cursed City.

That looks more like a bent nail than a crossguard, and the haft of the weapon has the stump of a branch on it. Looks like an improvised/homemade weapon; probably something from the "Zombie quadrant" of Cursed City.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 16:23:21


Post by: ImAGeek


The face looks more like the Gargant faces than Ogre faces. It also looks like the same harpoon looking Rumour Engine that we got a while back, but after its speared something.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 17:17:25


Post by: Danny76


The face of a giant yeah.
And now I am seeing a bent nail as opposed to a crossbar.

Though still looks undead to me.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 17:19:27


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


That's going to be the same kind of weapon as this here, isn't it?



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 17:21:24


Post by: Theophony


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
That's going to be the same kind of weapon as this here, isn't it?



Christmas Goblin Warband Confirmed.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 17:35:56


Post by: Arbitrator


Could also be an Ogryn. They have that slightly more rounded, 'dumb' look to them compared to Ogres I believe.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 18:00:33


Post by: Danny76


It’s very AoS rather than 40k though..


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 18:02:26


Post by: Arbitrator


Danny76 wrote:
It’s very AoS rather than 40k though..

Maybe that's what they want you to think.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 18:07:12


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Theophony wrote:Christmas Goblin Warband Confirmed.

Now I hope it actually is a gargant's head, and the pikes are basically tree trunks carried by 3-4 gobbos each

Arbitrator wrote:Could also be an Ogryn. They have that slightly more rounded, 'dumb' look to them compared to Ogres I believe.

Interesting, but where would these fit in? Some kind of Cawdor heavy? Even LatD don't seem so feral/brootal.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 18:25:18


Post by: Lord Perversor


After watching it a bit more properly it seems to me the kind of half blade under the Head it's in fact a kind of Banner tied to the spear.

And yes seems to be part of a theme with that Harpoon/spear rumour.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 19:13:58


Post by: Danny76


 Lord Perversor wrote:
After watching it a bit more properly it seems to me the kind of half blade under the Head it's in fact a kind of Banner tied to the spear.

And yes seems to be part of a theme with that Harpoon/spear rumour.


I don’t know what you mean half blade?

It’s heads atop a banner pole right?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 19:22:01


Post by: GaroRobe


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
That's going to be the same kind of weapon as this here, isn't it?





Sepulchral Guard also has spears with long pointy nails

Death! Death! Death!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 20:43:31


Post by: Fayric


Would be nice if the gargant and aelf heads on the barbed spear is fishing gear.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 21:28:36


Post by: Cronch


I bet it's some sort of mini-boss for Cursed City or maybe Gravelords. It definitely looks like Death weapon/banner, and ogor and Aelf head.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 22:20:44


Post by: GaroRobe


Could be a banner for Blood Knights. It looks a bit ramshackle, but slaying gargants seems on par for what they can do


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 22:36:07


Post by: lord_blackfang


Cronch wrote:
I bet it's some sort of mini-boss for Cursed City or maybe Gravelords. It definitely looks like Death weapon/banner, and ogor and Aelf head.


Maybe one of them ogre sized Ghouls finally got a model to reflect their knightly heritage?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 22:50:15


Post by: Sotahullu


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Cronch wrote:
I bet it's some sort of mini-boss for Cursed City or maybe Gravelords. It definitely looks like Death weapon/banner, and ogor and Aelf head.


Maybe one of them ogre sized Ghouls finally got a model to reflect their knightly heritage?


Don't raise hopes up! It would be too cool.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/09 23:27:21


Post by: GaroRobe


Sotahullu wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Cronch wrote:
I bet it's some sort of mini-boss for Cursed City or maybe Gravelords. It definitely looks like Death weapon/banner, and ogor and Aelf head.


Maybe one of them ogre sized Ghouls finally got a model to reflect their knightly heritage?


Don't raise hopes up! It would be too cool.


I read a black library story the other day (part of the current humble bundle) that featured FEC. I think it was a Varghulf, but it could have been a varghiest (it just specified that it was an enormous bat creature). But it was wearing jewelry, a frilled neck outfit, and challenged someone like a duelist. Please GW, give us FEC that have fancy clothes, or at least what ghouls would consider fancy clothes (but also please give the Varghulf the option to remain clothless, so it can fit into a Soulblight army. Thanks)

Here's the quote for those interested:
Spoiler:
The ghouls had struck him as
loathsome because of their debased semblance to men. In the hulking
monster that now crawled into view, there wasn’t more than an echo of such
a resemblance. It was a beast in truth, a monstrous frame covered in mangy
black fur except at the hands, feet and face where the skin was dark and
leathery. The feet were crooked with clawed toes. The face was scrunched
forwards in a wide muzzle, sharp fangs hanging over its taut lips, squashed
nose with flaring nostrils, beady eyes set far back in deep sockets. The
hands were mere nubs at the end of long, leathern wings. Incongruous with
its animalistic shape, the thing had draped about its chest a fine silken shirt
with an elaborately frilled neck, jewels gleamed in its long bat-like ears, and
about its waist there was a velveteen cummerbund.



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 13:11:04


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


BIRD!



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 13:13:40


Post by: lord_blackfang


BIRB

What do we think, shoulder ornament for the zombie sylvaneth?

I think we are starting to see pics of the AoS Death refresh too, so might be a Death faction terrain piece.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 13:14:09


Post by: Crispy78


Looks vulture-y to me (even if that big hook on its head would mean it'd get its head stuck inside the first carcass it pried into) which suggests Death related, not really much to go on besides... Sat on a branch, maybe scenery or otherwise something big?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 13:18:13


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Torn between Undead and Tzeentch.




Automatically Appended Next Post:
Weird that it’s missing at least one eye, but isn’t otherwise skeletal?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 13:40:30


Post by: lord_blackfang


Also the silhouette looks cropped to me, so the bird is sitting in front of something, not poking away from the model on its branch. This makes it more likey to be base decoration.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 13:57:06


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Torn between Undead and Tzeentch.

Yeah, it looks more mutated than decayed, doesn't it? Also the weird claw on the wing! Might be a Were-bat-vulture though hmm

Also compare to the 'realistic' vulture from an older unsolved rumour engine:

Maybe both belong on the same piece, one being more corrupted by whatever than the other?!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 14:12:27


Post by: Lord Perversor


IT reminds me of the Gothizzar Harvester golem birds perching around.

But as Mad Doc comments more mutated .


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 14:40:40


Post by: GaroRobe


As far as I can recall, normal vultures are associated with Beastclaw Raiders, since the stonehorn kit has an ogor using it via falconry. This guy most likely isn't for them (maybe the normal one is, but I doubt it.) Since it's on a branch, maybe it'll be an addition to one of the new zombies, though we already know a crow is one of them. Maybe some new warcry enemy?

Either way, I am loving all these animals GW is releasing. Birds, rats, lizards, etc. Give me more animals


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 15:54:42


Post by: TalonZahn


Turkeys for Thanksgiving Squig.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/16 18:13:46


Post by: Zhrukal


I'm old enough to remember the old school Undead Carrion, that was my first thought as the head definitely looks skeletal. This one looks a little too small though. Retcon maybe?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/17 23:34:15


Post by: Pilum



So what do you wanna do?


I dunno, what do you wanna do?

I may have watched Jungle Book too many times...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/18 01:46:13


Post by: GaroRobe


 Zhrukal wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the old school Undead Carrion, that was my first thought as the head definitely looks skeletal. This one looks a little too small though. Retcon maybe?


Those got reimagined into an Endless spell for bonereapers



One of the best looking endless spells, imo, since it's not half an animal (Like the flaming bull, the blood snake, etc.)


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/18 04:27:08


Post by: Flipsiders


 GaroRobe wrote:

One of the best looking endless spells, imo, since it's not half an animal (Like the flaming bull, the blood snake, etc.)


Are you attempting to imply that Giant Spiky Purple Skull Ball is anything other than a wholly intimidating design?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/18 11:49:34


Post by: Nevelon


It can’t be a carrion unless it’s got the tiny little chibi-wraith guy on its back.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/18 12:13:46


Post by: Danny76


I don’t think I’ve ever seen that Bonereaper spell.
It’s pretty cool.
Thought it was something new for CC.

Though hard to say that’s the undead carrion ‘reimagined’.
It’s just an endless spell that’s similar looking?
They could quite easily do a release with a unit of them, I wouldn’t say it’s one or the other surely?
(In this instance, I don’t think these RE’s are a new unit for sure, they’re just adornment for a model or whatnot. But the point is, there could still be a unit of that at some point).


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/18 19:37:48


Post by: GaroRobe


 Flipsiders wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:

One of the best looking endless spells, imo, since it's not half an animal (Like the flaming bull, the blood snake, etc.)


Are you attempting to imply that Giant Spiky Purple Skull Ball is anything other than a wholly intimidating design?


That one gets a pass, since it means the Purple Sun of Xerxes survived the old world

I am much less forgiving to the multiple "here's a magic wall" spell that they cram into armies when they can't think of a good idea. Fyreslayers, Slaves to Darkness, Realmlords, FEC, etc.

Also, I can't believe I forgot about the Sylvaneth Worm, FEC horses, and pretty decent Beastmen birdies. (And firey lord of change face)



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/20 16:21:33


Post by: DaveC


Today's reveals - there might be more and I didn't include the Be'lakor one

[Thumb - RE.png]


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/20 16:27:30


Post by: Danny76


I said all along that wasn’t a stormcasts staff, even when it was shown in the shadow silhouette of cursed city imagery..


Automatically Appended Next Post:
There’s a quiver from middle of last year?
Is that the eleven bolt thrower thing?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/20 16:38:16


Post by: Danny76


I think this might be the back of the Underworlds Orc.
But we shall see..

[Thumb - 0F5AA2B1-93DE-463A-9235-967F0FB49412.jpeg]


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/20 16:44:10


Post by: Danny76


This guy is on the bottom of the left undead ogre thing.

This fella.

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[Thumb - E7E97F17-CC39-4A9C-BC7D-99E3042BA27F.jpeg]


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/20 16:46:40


Post by: DaveC


Danny76 wrote:
This guy is on the bottom of the left undead ogre thing.

This fella.


Good spot

Spoiler:


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/20 17:05:09


Post by: Omega-soul


And another one
Spoiler:




The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/21 07:18:53


Post by: lord_blackfang




Confirmed Belakor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVkwxqHzm78
0:13


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/21 12:08:34


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


We’re also told the Wight King is the first of new Skellington models coming.

Reckon some of the others in this very thread are leading up to them.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/21 15:28:58


Post by: GaroRobe




Belakor again, right? Chains, skulls, etc. And the metal bit attached to the skull is identical to the ones we've seen in Belakor's vid


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/21 16:09:30


Post by: Coenus Scaldingus


I guess the video technically doesn't show that wing yet (based on the combined picture in the Preview thread), but... yeah, that seems a pretty safe bet.

Quite the amount of rumour engine pictures solved in this one preview.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/21 18:01:20


Post by: Mr_Rose


If i remember correctly, the thread pretty much guessed Be’lakor for that one at the time, based on the piercings and similarities to the existing model, right?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:14:14


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Hoof



Probs Chaos.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:20:00


Post by: His Master's Voice


Slender for a Chaos mount.

Might be DElves of some variety?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:20:54


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Ooooooh.

Centigor?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:22:02


Post by: H.B.M.C.


All I see is "Not a Tyranid".



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:23:06


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Yeah. Might go together with this scale mail/cloth barding rumour engine
Spoiler:

The Chaos Knights' horses in the StD Start Collecting box have leg armour, though, so maybe some lighter cavalry?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:24:00


Post by: GaroRobe


I dunno. Maurader horsemen wouldn't be as bulky as chaos knights. Chaos knights have similar horse shoes, but the upper part of the leg is usually armored.

Most likely not blood knights, since their horse hooves are usually carved to resemble the bat grooves of their armor


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:26:30


Post by: Theophony


Blood Knights to expand on the Vampires from Underworld and Cursed city


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:38:00


Post by: Voss


Definitely looks like a chaos ' horseshoe'. That rim with spikes is on several models, including juggers.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:40:01


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Or could be a hoof from those not-Wood Elf AoS people.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:47:17


Post by: Voss


I can't see wood elf deer folk with heavy iron horseshoes.

Plus the leg seems to thick and heavy for their 'centaurs,' and articulated wrong for the bipeds.

Now, proper plastic centigors on the other hoof....


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:56:52


Post by: GaroRobe


I thought centigors didn't have hooves, but paws. Between them and Gorhoof, I know one had hooves and the other had paws, despite being both centigor


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 14:58:57


Post by: Mr_Rose


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ooooooh.

Centigor?

Centigors don’t wear shoes.

Kurnothi probably don’t either.

Horses only need shoes when working for people outside their normal environment (under heavy loads, on paved roads etc.) so this is probably someone’s warhorse.

I’m going to take a wild flyer of a guess and say Imperial Guard Rough Rider.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 15:10:52


Post by: Voss


 GaroRobe wrote:
I thought centigors didn't have hooves, but paws. Between them and Gorhoof, I know one had hooves and the other had paws, despite being both centigor


The 'current' models have claws, true. But like minotaurs with hooves & just plain feet, it's not something GW is terribly consistent about.

Plus I'd love for them to replace the centigors with plastic and leave the marauder horsemen alone, as they're fine sculpts.

Another alternative: a Warcry cavalry champion? A one off model to go with a splatbook.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 15:15:36


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Main reason I’m thinking Chaos is the visible scar on the limb.

They’re the only horse riding faction I can think of right now that wouldn’t properly tend their steeds - what with them being at least partly Chaos Powered.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 15:33:34


Post by: Irbis


 His Master's Voice wrote:
Might be DElves of some variety?

I thought they use dinosaurs for mounts?

I just can't see AoS going into 'less weird' direction with something that already wasn't low fantasy to begin with...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 15:54:03


Post by: Rihgu


 Irbis wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
Might be DElves of some variety?

I thought they use dinosaurs for mounts?

I just can't see AoS going into 'less weird' direction with something that already wasn't low fantasy to begin with...


They also have traditional horses(Dark Riders, Doomfire Warlocks, Scourgerunner Chariots)


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 16:06:06


Post by: Dread Master


New multipart chaos knight kit, or new marauder horseman kit.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 16:15:49


Post by: ImAGeek


The shoe and scar definitely make me think Chaos, but it’s not really a lot to go on.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 16:15:59


Post by: Plant


Could be a plastic Nazgul?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 16:18:51


Post by: Shadow Walker


Some Chaos centaurs, some human tribesmen warshipping Gorkamorka, some Sylvaneth wild riders?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 16:47:13


Post by: Kanluwen


Honestly, if they wanted Sylvaneth Wild Riders they should just give them Wild Riders and Sisters of the Thorn.

Wild Riders, back in the day, were counted as Forest Spirits...and that was just when they rode horses! The steeds that both versions have are, per the Old World lore, mystical spirit-beasts ala Pegasi in the Greek myths.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 16:52:41


Post by: Voss


Dread Master wrote:
New multipart chaos knight kit, or new marauder horseman kit.


Truthfully, that'd be infuriating, as those are some of the more recent (and best) chaos kits, and there is a lot that still isn't even in plastic. And true horrors like the foot marauders.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 21:40:48


Post by: Coenus Scaldingus


Could be some Chaos (Marauder?) character? They mentioned during the Twitch preview that the new ghost and Sigmarine were the first of a range of new characters for different factions to be released over the coming months. I guess they could redo the mounted Marauders or the chariot just like they did the Warriors and Knights, but it seems unnecessary.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 21:48:02


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Mounted Darkoath Warqueen is defo possible.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 22:11:30


Post by: Kanluwen


Personal hope is a mounted Vampire on a Nightmare.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 23:01:32


Post by: Gadzilla666


 Kanluwen wrote:
Personal hope is a mounted Vampire on a Nightmare.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Those could be flames on the backside of the leg.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 23:24:17


Post by: Voss


 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Personal hope is a mounted Vampire on a Nightmare.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Those could be flames on the backside of the leg.


That's a standard GW beast-hair tuft.

If its fire, it has a curious taste for obeying the law of gravity and not burning in any way like a flame.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/23 23:25:35


Post by: Kanluwen


Yeah, I don't think it's fire--but the Nightmares did use to have fur/hair.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/24 05:02:23


Post by: Carlovonsexron


It wouldnt surprise me if Belakor came with other chaos goodies, though I have to say I'm fine with the marauder horsemen as is, for they have some of my favorite helmeted heads in the entire GW system of ranges. I'll be very sad to see it go.

I was rather hopeful it would be the foot marauders who would get a refresh as darkoath first. (And indeed, I kind of cant believe it hasn't happened yet, and isn't guaranteed to happen any time soon.)


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/24 08:56:32


Post by: lord_blackfang


Would a Nightmare have scars tho?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/24 09:13:52


Post by: AngryAngel80


Obvious to me, it's new imperial guard rough riders. Blow away everyone all at once. Boom.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/24 09:19:40


Post by: PaddyMick


 AngryAngel80 wrote:
Obvious to me, it's new imperial guard rough riders. Blow away everyone all at once. Boom.


Yes! the vanguard of an infantry baddallion of all regiments with attendant command and specialist squads, to be featured in the new codex


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/24 09:49:05


Post by: Jackal90


Looking at the scars, the pointed metal shoe etc I’d be thinking it’s not order.

Looking more like chaos or death.
Considering the soulblight push I’d hope for blood knights that you don’t need to mortgage a house for.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/02/24 10:34:13


Post by: AngryAngel80


I'd be alright with plastic blood knights, they can't be more expensive than the current, I'd hope.

Though really, I am putting my imaginary money on Rough Riders. It would catch everyone by surprise.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:07:30


Post by: zamerion




The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:08:28


Post by: Carlovonsexron


That bad looks.deduded non Astartes...


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:11:55


Post by: Oguhmek


Do Astra Militarum have any Medics today? I know they used to back in the Rogue Trader days...

Sisters won't carry bags around, it's too plain for Mechanicus, to "normal" for Genestealer cults (besides they already have their medic type, right). Can't see that it's anything other than AM.

Unless it's for a boxed game.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:14:20


Post by: lord_blackfang


Guard field hospital faction terrain?

Really looks like it fell from a plastic 40k RPG box.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:14:51


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 Oguhmek wrote:
Do Astra Militarum have any Medics today? I know they used to back in the Rogue Trader days...

Sisters won't carry bags around, it's too plain for Mechanicus, to "normal" for Genestealer cults (besides they already have their medic type, right). Can't see that it's anything other than AM.

Unless it's for a boxed game.


There are parts for medics in the cadian and catachan command squads.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:16:15


Post by: endlesswaltz123


I think we aren't just getting a few catachan, I think we are getting a full revamp of them now to be honest.

Poor Eldar.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:16:28


Post by: Oguhmek


Ah, yes faction terrain.

M*A*S*H - Militarum Astra Surgical Hospital


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:22:24


Post by: abyrn


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Oguhmek wrote:
Do Astra Militarum have any Medics today? I know they used to back in the Rogue Trader days...

Sisters won't carry bags around, it's too plain for Mechanicus, to "normal" for Genestealer cults (besides they already have their medic type, right). Can't see that it's anything other than AM.

Unless it's for a boxed game.


There are parts for medics in the cadian and catachan command squads.



There is a medic in the Scions command squad as well.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:22:26


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Well, that’s a.......mixed bag

100% a medics bag, rather than a “spit and staples” field kit.

Add this to the possibly Ecclesiarchy bits from last year’s, and I think we might just be looking at a significant IG revamp.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:25:14


Post by: zedmeister


MEDIC!!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:39:53


Post by: Theophony


He's Dead Jim

*sound of bag closing and Medic walking away


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 13:58:35


Post by: Tim the Biovore


No idea what it could be for, but I'm excited to see that piece itself become available


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 14:16:03


Post by: vim_the_good


IG and Scions can take a medic in their command squads. I doubt it is Scion as their kit is quite new.
It is interesting to see that there is quite a lot of detail on just the medics bag. It looks like the interior even has something going on. This makes me think it may be more for a character in a stand alone game more than a throw away medic in a command squad.
I hope i'm wrong though. I've been waiting for the IG revamp for years


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 14:21:54


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


God, I hope it is a Medic for a revamped Imperial Guard Squad


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 15:15:51


Post by: ceorron


New imperial guard? I can only hope.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 15:26:49


Post by: Kanluwen


If we're lucky, it's part of an update to the infantry squads. Never made sense that the medics were just in Command Squads.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 15:28:30


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Could be a new infantry character to be honest. A roving medic, if you will.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 15:34:20


Post by: Sabotage!


Possibly new Guard? That would be long overdue. The Catachans have aged terribly, and the Cadians aren’t much better. The line doesn’t need a lot; new infantry kit, new command squad kit, new weapons team kit and you are good to go. I just hope they don’t try to charge 60 dollars for 10 Guardsmen.



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 15:35:16


Post by: Red Corsair


 Kanluwen wrote:
If we're lucky, it's part of an update to the infantry squads. Never made sense that the medics were just in Command Squads.


Could you imagine,

Squad medic +10pts

So long as the infantry squads medic is alive return D3 dead guardsmen to the unit during the command phase.


That would be so much fun and fluffy.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 15:44:06


Post by: Mr_Rose


You know what I want? For command squads to come back but sort of in the style of the Triumph of St Katherine. Specifically; a 7-9 (depending on rank) wound infantry model that can embark but counts as five models, and can have various abilities added, which switch off as it loses wounds. No more screwing around with dumb bodyguard rules and no more buying four units to do the job of one. All on a single 80mm base.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 15:51:13


Post by: Red Corsair


 Mr_Rose wrote:
You know what I want? For command squads to come back but sort of in the style of the Triumph of St Katherine. Specifically; a 7-9 (depending on rank) wound infantry model that can embark but counts as five models, and can have various abilities added, which switch off as it loses wounds. No more screwing around with dumb bodyguard rules and no more buying four units to do the job of one. All on a single 80mm base.


I actually thought that would be a good solution to horde units in general, for example once a unit is larger then 10 models in list design it goes on a movement base and counts as a large multi wound single unit that degrades. It's still a bit clunky but I feel like it makes life a bit easier logistically plus you can better control how they degrade so things like orks or genestealers don't lose out on like 10-20 attacks because of a single dead guy but instead you could degrade the bases attacks by like 5 for example.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 15:56:49


Post by: KidCthulhu


Oh that's a nice med bag! I loved the old RT medics and Apothecaries (despite generally disliking Mahreenz).

I would love a dedicated medic mini along the lines of the metal Cadian one from the old command squad. Maybe the new Guard dex will make command squads & commanders a single entity again? Splitting them out always felt like a bad idea to me.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 17:51:47


Post by: Theophony


It'll be another store anniversary model, or maybe a special let's help out the FLGS by having a Doctor (Hopefully Dr. House) who is going around to give vaccine shots. It'll be hard as heck to get ahold of and go on ebay for absurd amounts. We can only hope it matches up with the Catchcan models they did last year.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 18:00:49


Post by: Voss


Codex: Imperial Equipment. You can take bags and gear for Imperial armies, to attach to units like equipment cards, and function like grot orderlies and ammo runts.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 18:23:04


Post by: GaroRobe


 Theophony wrote:
It'll be another store anniversary model, or maybe a special let's help out the FLGS by having a Doctor (Hopefully Dr. House) who is going around to give vaccine shots. It'll be hard as heck to get ahold of and go on ebay for absurd amounts. We can only hope it matches up with the Catchcan models they did last year.



This wouldn't surprise me at all


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 21:57:32


Post by: Togusa


 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I think we aren't just getting a few catachan, I think we are getting a full revamp of them now to be honest.

Poor Eldar.


Please let this be so. Catachans are my favorite guard unit and the only thing that has kept me from getting some were the hideous tumor ridden arms of the old models.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 22:58:18


Post by: Skywave


Eldar are comically old now, but at last they still looks really good. Catachans on the other hand would benefit more from a revamp!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 23:05:05


Post by: Kanluwen


Hopefully any revamp of Catachans makes it clear that they're skirting a bit of the abhuman line themselves. The moniker "Baby Ogryn" is used to apply to them for a reason, dangit!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/02 23:38:35


Post by: Sabotage!


Honestly I’d prefer if they didn’t do Catachans or Cadians (though I’d be happy with either). I’d much rather them do something that hasn’t been in plastic before like Steel Legion or something completely new. Especially with Cadia being destroyed and what not, it would be nice to have a new focus.

If this rumor does end up belonging to new Guard Infantry kits at all though I would be very happy. Guard infantry are probably the worst looking Troop Choice in the game.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 01:07:56


Post by: Danny76


 Sabotage! wrote:
Honestly I’d prefer if they didn’t do Catachans or Cadians (though I’d be happy with either). I’d much rather them do something that hasn’t been in plastic before like Steel Legion or something completely new. Especially with Cadia being destroyed and what not, it would be nice to have a new focus.

If this rumor does end up belonging to new Guard Infantry kits at all though I would be very happy. Guard infantry are probably the worst looking Troop Choice in the game.


While I agree it’d be nice for one if the other legions, greatcoat style please.
I don’t see it happening. Unless it’s a third line.

A) Aren't the Cadian models basically also the standard guard armour look, we just have them marketed as Cadians, but nearly every guard unit looks like that with their uniforms.
B) They’d have to redo a huge amount of the line if they were doing away with them, a lot of models, even vehicles etc I think, have that style of guardsmen in the box don’t they?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 01:26:32


Post by: cody.d.


Gonna be honest. My money is some sort of rouge trader type group. Or other box set sorta deal. It just has that one off sort of feel ya know? Like a named character or retinue member.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 02:13:37


Post by: Sabotage!


Danny76 wrote:
 Sabotage! wrote:
Honestly I’d prefer if they didn’t do Catachans or Cadians (though I’d be happy with either). I’d much rather them do something that hasn’t been in plastic before like Steel Legion or something completely new. Especially with Cadia being destroyed and what not, it would be nice to have a new focus.

If this rumor does end up belonging to new Guard Infantry kits at all though I would be very happy. Guard infantry are probably the worst looking Troop Choice in the game.


While I agree it’d be nice for one if the other legions, greatcoat style please.
I don’t see it happening. Unless it’s a third line.

A) Aren't the Cadian models basically also the standard guard armour look, we just have them marketed as Cadians, but nearly every guard unit looks like that with their uniforms.
B) They’d have to redo a huge amount of the line if they were doing away with them, a lot of models, even vehicles etc I think, have that style of guardsmen in the box don’t they?


It probably won’t happen, but I would definitely prefer it.

As for the questions:
A) No, there is no standard guard armor or uniform for the Guard. That said Cadians have trained a lot of different regiments and a lot of regiments model themselves after Cadians, so it is a relatively common uniform in the Imperial Guard.
B) No they wouldn’t. A lot of the vehicle crew are pretty generic, and while a few have Cadian style helmets all they would need to do is add a couple heads for vehicle crew in the Infantry box that could be used with those bodies. Most vehicle crew have pretty different uniforms than infantry soldiers in real world armies armies, so it wouldn’t seem out of place in 40k as long as the color scheme matched.

That said, if they do anything, it will probably just be a redux of Cadians to the proportions and quality of the command squad (which is still a pretty good kit).


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cody.d. wrote:
Gonna be honest. My money is some sort of rouge trader type group. Or other box set sorta deal. It just has that one off sort of feel ya know? Like a named character or retinue member.


Probably true. It very well could match up with those Inquisition like pictures shown earlier. I’m crossing my fingers for new Guard squads though.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 02:23:11


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Kanluwen wrote:
Hopefully any revamp of Catachans makes it clear that they're skirting a bit of the abhuman line themselves. The moniker "Baby Ogryn" is used to apply to them for a reason, dangit!
God no! That would be awful.

A revision of Catachans - and the Guard in general - should make it clear that these are regular humans. Because against all the terrors of the galaxy - be it Tyranid invasions, awakened Necrons, rampaging Orks, callous Eldar, upstart Tau or the Chaos Legions - the people holding it together are the normal men and women of the Imperial Guard.

Not half-human roided up Rambo-wannabes who come from an angry jungle.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 02:51:38


Post by: GaroRobe


The question is, based on the two latest Catachan models (Sgrt. Ripper and "Scalper's wetdream") would people be happy with getting more models like them? Both models seem pretty great, but idk


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 05:12:59


Post by: MajorWesJanson


If they make a new guard squad, I'd want the neck joints to be designed so they can take the other guard, scions, and skitarii heads


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 06:15:06


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
If they make a new guard squad, I'd want the neck joints to be designed so they can take the other guard, scions, and skitarii heads
Kitbashing is verboten.

We'l get 10 wonderfully dynamic Guardsmen with two torsos that can take different weapons, and one that can either be a Guardsman or a Sergeant. The same torsos will go with the same legs (assuming the two are even separate). The arms will connect at odd angles and cuts, meaning that only set weapons can go with each torso. Nothing will be interchangeable.



The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 07:04:21


Post by: alphaecho


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
If they make a new guard squad, I'd want the neck joints to be designed so they can take the other guard, scions, and skitarii heads
Kitbashing is verboten.

We'l get 10 wonderfully dynamic Guardsmen with two torsos that can take different weapons, and one that can either be a Guardsman or a Sergeant. The same torsos will go with the same legs (assuming the two are even separate). The arms will connect at odd angles and cuts, meaning that only set weapons can go with each torso. Nothing will be interchangeable.




More money for Wargames Atlantic from those who aren't tied to gaming in GW stores or in GW Tournaments then.

I wonder when the WA Death Fields range will see a range of US marines lifted from the Vietnam jungles. I mean, no one would ever consider proxying a range like that for Catachans!


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 08:15:39


Post by: Danny76


 Sabotage! wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
 Sabotage! wrote:
Honestly I’d prefer if they didn’t do Catachans or Cadians (though I’d be happy with either). I’d much rather them do something that hasn’t been in plastic before like Steel Legion or something completely new. Especially with Cadia being destroyed and what not, it would be nice to have a new focus.

If this rumor does end up belonging to new Guard Infantry kits at all though I would be very happy. Guard infantry are probably the worst looking Troop Choice in the game.


While I agree it’d be nice for one if the other legions, greatcoat style please.
I don’t see it happening. Unless it’s a third line.

A) Aren't the Cadian models basically also the standard guard armour look, we just have them marketed as Cadians, but nearly every guard unit looks like that with their uniforms.
B) They’d have to redo a huge amount of the line if they were doing away with them, a lot of models, even vehicles etc I think, have that style of guardsmen in the box don’t they?


It probably won’t happen, but I would definitely prefer it.

As for the questions:
A) No, there is no standard guard armor or uniform for the Guard. That said Cadians have trained a lot of different regiments and a lot of regiments model themselves after Cadians, so it is a relatively common uniform in the Imperial Guard.
B) No they wouldn’t. A lot of the vehicle crew are pretty generic, and while a few have Cadian style helmets all they would need to do is add a couple heads for vehicle crew in the Infantry box that could be used with those bodies. Most vehicle crew have pretty different uniforms than infantry soldiers in real world armies armies, so it wouldn’t seem out of place in 40k as long as the color scheme matched.

That said, if they do anything, it will probably just be a redux of Cadians to the proportions and quality of the command squad (which is still a pretty good kit).


I thought the two command squads were pretty good yeah.


I really had it in my head that tons of forge woods produced stock armour as it were, and it was all ‘Cadian pattern’ and it was the most used in the galaxy (just as an explanation as to why that was the main kit if nothing else).
Don’t remember where I read it, but thought I had from multiple sources, codexes and such.
Maybe a very vivid dream..


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 08:55:34


Post by: lord_blackfang


What if we're not thinking inside the box enough

What if it's somethig we know they should be spoiling any time now

Cawdor 2nd sprue


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 09:42:33


Post by: Sabotage!


Danny76 wrote:


I thought the two command squads were pretty good yeah.


I really had it in my head that tons of forge woods produced stock armour as it were, and it was all ‘Cadian pattern’ and it was the most used in the galaxy (just as an explanation as to why that was the main kit if nothing else).
Don’t remember where I read it, but thought I had from multiple sources, codexes and such.
Maybe a very vivid dream..


As far as I know that wasn’t the case, though to be honest I haven’t read the most recent Guard Codexes. I played Guard from 3rd until 6th and read way too many Dan Abnett Gaunt’s Ghosts books and during that period each Guard regiment sourced their own gear/uniforms. Some did copy the Cadians and some were trained and provided equipment by them, but most regiments were completely distinct. Basically the Imperium would send a tithe for Troops to a planet and they would raise a regiment and equip them with what they use. Which is why in a lot of the novels and background lore you see grenadiers with hell guns, guys wearing scale mail with auto guns, single shot laslocks and Napolonic uniforms, etc. It’s really a shame GW never fully capitalized on that (and though 3rd party companies certainly have).

My guess is a lot of where that idea you had came from was the fact that GW has put tons of pictures of Cadians in different paint schemes in all the Codexes from 4th forward and called them different Regiments (though I think this was mostly just done to give be a chance to build their own regiments from a limited selection of infantry options, especially back in 4th when you built your own regiment by picking different abilities). Or I could be completely off base and they changed the fluff a lot in 7th or 8th.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 09:42:58


Post by: Geifer


Danny76 wrote:
I really had it in my head that tons of forge woods produced stock armour as it were, and it was all ‘Cadian pattern’ and it was the most used in the galaxy (just as an explanation as to why that was the main kit if nothing else).
Don’t remember where I read it, but thought I had from multiple sources, codexes and such.
Maybe a very vivid dream..


At some point GW added abundance of Cadia style equipment in the Imperial Guard to the background to give an in universe explanation for the reduced model support for non-plastic regiments. It's in the modern background, but is one of the more overtly real life driven retcons that isn't exactly reconcilable with established background before that.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
What if we're not thinking inside the box enough

What if it's somethig we know they should be spoiling any time now

Cawdor 2nd sprue


I don't think Doctor Burninator carries around the kind of medicine that's in that bag.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 09:47:19


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Geifer wrote:
I don't think Doctor Burninator carries around the kind of medicine that's in that bag.


Did you say Savlon? My mistake, thought you asked me to pass the Napalm! Silly, silly me. Still, at least they’re not in pain anymore.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 10:03:44


Post by: dan2026


If Guard get a range redo before Eldar I'm going to cry lol.

I mean, they need it too. But a ton of the current Eldar range hasn't even made it to freaking plastic yet.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 12:50:11


Post by: Oguhmek


Rumor engine pics are not always indicative of all the things going on in the studio though. I mean, Necrons got a huge overhaul, but very few Rumor engine pics - just a single one for Illuminor Sczeras actually - and he was released as part of Psyching Awakening, not for tha main Necron revamp.

So there may be a huge Eldar update in the works, which is the suddenly released without any prior warning. I wouldn't draw too many conclusions based on what they show in the Rumor Engine.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 18:09:49


Post by: Sabotage!


 dan2026 wrote:
If Guard get a range redo before Eldar I'm going to cry lol.

I mean, they need it too. But a ton of the current Eldar range hasn't even made it to freaking plastic yet.


True, but lots of the non-plastic Eldar are Elites. And Guardians and Dire Avengers look MUCH better than plastic Cadians/Catachans. That and while Eldar would be a huge range overhaul, Guard needs about 2-3 plastic kits. It could easily be something done with a new codex as a non-major release.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 18:17:59


Post by: Danny76


 Sabotage! wrote:
Danny76 wrote:


I thought the two command squads were pretty good yeah.


I really had it in my head that tons of forge woods produced stock armour as it were, and it was all ‘Cadian pattern’ and it was the most used in the galaxy (just as an explanation as to why that was the main kit if nothing else).
Don’t remember where I read it, but thought I had from multiple sources, codexes and such.
Maybe a very vivid dream..


As far as I know that wasn’t the case, though to be honest I haven’t read the most recent Guard Codexes. I played Guard from 3rd until 6th and read way too many Dan Abnett Gaunt’s Ghosts books and during that period each Guard regiment sourced their own gear/uniforms. Some did copy the Cadians and some were trained and provided equipment by them, but most regiments were completely distinct. Basically the Imperium would send a tithe for Troops to a planet and they would raise a regiment and equip them with what they use. Which is why in a lot of the novels and background lore you see grenadiers with hell guns, guys wearing scale mail with auto guns, single shot laslocks and Napolonic uniforms, etc. It’s really a shame GW never fully capitalized on that (and though 3rd party companies certainly have).

My guess is a lot of where that idea you had came from was the fact that GW has put tons of pictures of Cadians in different paint schemes in all the Codexes from 4th forward and called them different Regiments (though I think this was mostly just done to give be a chance to build their own regiments from a limited selection of infantry options, especially back in 4th when you built your own regiment by picking different abilities). Or I could be completely off base and they changed the fluff a lot in 7th or 8th.


My memory fits with what Geifer said.
Though I’m sure I’d read older codexes too with similar.
In the Painted example sections of those, weren’t there alternate paint schemes that were effectively from a different world? Certainly in the newer, but I thought olde too, though it was many years back now.. my memories..

Black library, yeah definitely doesn’t really talk about it, but I think the thing is there, they don’t have to just write about what a model looks like, so they talk about the cool other ones etc.

The other thing is, while yes probably decisions made due to making the range more accessible to more people, in universe it makes sense, the Imperium is massive and would have standard patterns to mass produce all that stuff.
It would be ridiculous for each to have to design and use their own..
Thinking on it, the equipment book a bit like the uplifting primer, that had sort of a standard pattern flak armour and lasgun etc, and was designed for across the worlds..


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 18:45:19


Post by: alphaecho




Didn't the whole thing about different uniforms only really kick in with the 2nd ed metals.

Before that, the Necromunda 8th, the Mordian battle group and so on all wore the same standard uniform.

Tribal markings, gang tattoos and so could be used to differentiate and customise the Rogue Trader metals and plastics.

Isn't there some background somewhere that stated that all Regiments may ultimately come to wear the standard Cadian type uniform if they cannot resource peaked caps, furry hats or the vest/ bandana combo to replace wear and tear?

The Departmento Munitorum cares not for your love of a red piping down your trousers.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 20:25:14


Post by: Voss


 Sabotage! wrote:
 dan2026 wrote:
If Guard get a range redo before Eldar I'm going to cry lol.

I mean, they need it too. But a ton of the current Eldar range hasn't even made it to freaking plastic yet.


True, but lots of the non-plastic Eldar are Elites. And Guardians and Dire Avengers look MUCH better than plastic Cadians/Catachans. .


Eh. Catachans are ugly mutant things and they're not supposed to be, so I'll give you that, but the Cadians are seriously better sculpts with more details than Guardians or DA. You can go all the way down to the understhirt, belt and even pockets and the straps for closing them on the Cadians, while guardians (and DA) are just armor with some bumps, thigh plates, spritstones, and a very lightly recessed face plate and eyes.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/03 22:10:11


Post by: streetsamurai


IG are an abomination at the moment. A shame that they still have these.old outdated kits as core. They need a redo asapz whether its cadian or another regiment ( and dont get me started on eldar)


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/04 09:43:05


Post by: Danny76


alphaecho wrote:


Didn't the whole thing about different uniforms only really kick in with the 2nd ed metals.

Before that, the Necromunda 8th, the Mordian battle group and so on all wore the same standard uniform.

Tribal markings, gang tattoos and so could be used to differentiate and customise the Rogue Trader metals and plastics.

Isn't there some background somewhere that stated that all Regiments may ultimately come to wear the standard Cadian type uniform if they cannot resource peaked caps, furry hats or the vest/ bandana combo to replace wear and tear?

The Departmento Munitorum cares not for your love of a red piping down your trousers.


That’s exactly my thought.
Like the Departmento Munitorum just makes all the stuff en masse.
Rather than getting to work and looking, oh another order of uniforms for the Varellian 34th, they have the cool jackets they want us to do, nice for a change.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/04 11:59:11


Post by: Olthannon


Cadia the planet is dead dead dead. So I hope when new IG finally roll up, they'll be able to say look at our new regiment kits ye mighties and BUY. I miss the Vostroyans most of all, I came across some Blanche art of them the other day and I got all nostalgic thinking about the Medusa V campaign. The imperial guard have serious potential for some lovely unique kits that people will spend plenty dollarydoos on. But alas, I doubt we'd be that lucky. And gods alone know when the poor Eldar will see new kits.

Given that it's just a close up of a medic bag, I bet it's something for necromunda or some such..


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/04 12:04:28


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Danny76 wrote:
alphaecho wrote:


Didn't the whole thing about different uniforms only really kick in with the 2nd ed metals.

Before that, the Necromunda 8th, the Mordian battle group and so on all wore the same standard uniform.

Tribal markings, gang tattoos and so could be used to differentiate and customise the Rogue Trader metals and plastics.

Isn't there some background somewhere that stated that all Regiments may ultimately come to wear the standard Cadian type uniform if they cannot resource peaked caps, furry hats or the vest/ bandana combo to replace wear and tear?

The Departmento Munitorum cares not for your love of a red piping down your trousers.


That’s exactly my thought.
Like the Departmento Munitorum just makes all the stuff en masse.
Rather than getting to work and looking, oh another order of uniforms for the Varellian 34th, they have the cool jackets they want us to do, nice for a change.


There’s certainly an element of that. But for specialised Regiments in their element (Valhalla, Tallarn), any specialised kit is likely provided by their Home World, as their relative levels of industry would be best placed.

So whilst a Valhallan would always have a Greatcoat to hand, they would also have standard issue kit, only relying on the former when deployed on a suitable world.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/09 13:11:00


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik




Nid.

Possibly an update to the Red Terror?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/09 13:14:50


Post by: GaroRobe


Please be a dual kit for lictor/red terror.

I mean, plastic lictor components exist. Also, didn't we have another tyranid themed RE?


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/09 13:15:47


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Yup. Tentacles.


The Rumour Engine 2021. @ 2021/03/09 13:24:37


Post by: lost_lilliputian


Hmm looks like a back scratcher.
My grandma has one shaped just like it.


Or something tyranid related.