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AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 15:51:30


Post by: nels1031


Previous thread was getting too unwieldy. New edition, new thread!

First order of business, July 3rd Preview show at 1PM Eastern, preceded by a Hobby Hangout.






AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 15:59:04


Post by: Voss


Well to finish up the conversation in the other thread, since people were trying to find out information when it was closed:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Have GW given an idea when a new Battletome will be out for Kruleboyz?

I may remember it wrong but aren't they to be included in the new Orruk Warclans battletome?

IF you remember it wrong, then we both remember it wrong because i am also pretty sure they're gonna be included in the Warclans.

This is pretty clear that they are (though the reference is a bit buried)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/06/08/discover-how-command-abilities-are-the-key-to-success-with-the-orruk-warclans-in-the-new-edition/

The new Kruleboyz are very much a part of the Orruk Warclans, so if you want a mixed Orruk army – or already have one – you can easily add the greenskins from the new Dominion box into your Waaagh!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 16:04:40


Post by: Ghaz


The Hang Out and Hobby is starting...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The Hobby Roundup is over. The Preview will be starting soon.






























AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:08:48


Post by: Shadow Walker


Knight Relictor rocks!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:10:06


Post by: Ghaz


Lord Commander Bastian Carthalos of the Hammers of Sigmar, plus several new units of Stormcasts.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:11:36


Post by: Nostromodamus


So this guy ranks higher than the guy wielding Ghal Maraz?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:12:22


Post by: lord_blackfang


In a surprise twist, Troke is really hyped about literally everything


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:12:49


Post by: Ghaz


 Nostromodamus wrote:
So this guy ranks higher than the guy wielding Ghal Maraz?

Just mentioned in the feed that the Celestant Prime is outside of the Stormcast Eternal ranks.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:13:29


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Swordsmen are pretty cool. I like the girl on the left.

EDIT: I was worried that they were regressing back to 5-man boxes. Seems not.



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:13:59


Post by: Nostromodamus


 Ghaz wrote:
 Nostromodamus wrote:
So this guy ranks higher than the guy wielding Ghal Maraz?

Just mentioned in the feed that the Celestant Prime is outside of the Stormcast Eternal ranks.


Ah ok thanks, I’m not too familiar with Stormcast structure.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:14:16


Post by: Shadow Walker


Lord Commander - I would nearly always use helmeted version but here it sucks, and the bare head looks really cool.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:18:31


Post by: Ghaz


I really like the bear face on the chestplate on the Annihilator Prime on the right.

Confirmed all the kits shown so far are multipart.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:21:35


Post by: Voss


 Shadow Walker wrote:
Knight Relictor rocks!

I honestly thought that's the worst model shown off so far. It looks worse than most of the rank and file infantry. Partially the pose (reminds me of squatting marines), and partly the bicycle pouch on his belly, and the excessive spikes on the helmet.

The orcs-
axes/sword battleline orcs (and command, which the Dominion warscroll is just missing)
crossbows- dedicated kit which is very good, since the sprue they're on in dominion is mixed with mounted boss.
Several monster/troll mounts


Interesting thing on the 'sloggoth,' the crew looks like 'normal' goblins?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:21:37


Post by: Dryaktylus


 lord_blackfang wrote:
In a surprise twist, Troke is really hyped about literally everything


He read your post and now looks really annoyed. Well done.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:21:46


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Never been a big fan of Sigmarines, and the fact that they're doing Primaris Sigmarines already is silly, but man, those Annihilators are pretty boss.

So is the Stormcast leader guy.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:21:59


Post by: DaveC


Vigilors are the winner for me. Knight Judicator makes them battleline


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:23:43


Post by: Nostromodamus


Kruleboyz = WANT


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:23:46


Post by: Ghaz


Marshcralwa Sloggoth?!?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:24:03


Post by: Shadow Walker


Wow, Sigmarines were cool but the orcs look amazing.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:26:58


Post by: AduroT


I need pictures!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:27:39


Post by: Ghaz


Gutrippaz with hand weapons and Skareshields plus command looks nice.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:29:09


Post by: Shadow Walker


 Ghaz wrote:
Gutrippaz with hand weapons and Skareshields plus command looks nice.
Yeah, I liked them with spears but these look even better.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:30:34


Post by: Ghaz


Swampboss Skumdrekk!!!



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:31:23


Post by: H.B.M.C.


It builds a generic hero too, which is good.

Why couldn't they have done that with Sisters...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:31:50


Post by: Voss


Not sure about the lizard-sloth. Particularly the unhelmeted version, it makes the head look tacked on.

They did say that its a special character version and a 'normal' character version.

Edit: Oooh. The generic boss version looks _really_ good.

I like the little touches. Some of the harness is carved timber, but in places they've inserted an uncut log to finish it off.

-
'Destruction Battletome': Orruk Warclans (Kruleboyz, Ironjaws, Savage Orcs and... Kragnos?)
'Order Battletome': Stormcast Eternals


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:33:49


Post by: Shadow Walker


Voss wrote:
Particularly the unhelmeted version, it makes the head look tacked on.

Agreed. Helmeted at least looks like it belongs to the model.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:35:52


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Ok, models and books.

Show us the new terrain!!!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:36:24


Post by: Shadow Walker


Orcs cover is IMO better one.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:36:31


Post by: Voss


No release dates, no word on digital versions.
Adams is _very_ enthusiastic about not knowing things.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, models and books.

Show us the new terrain!!!

Sounds like they're done.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:37:32


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Yeah. It does.

1/2 an hour. Wow.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:38:39


Post by: lord_blackfang


I like both big beasties.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 0010/09/26 18:00:18


Post by: Ghaz


Voss wrote:
No release dates, no word on digital versions.
Adams is _very_ enthusiastic about not knowing things.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, models and books.

Show us the new terrain!!!

Sounds like they're done.

From Warhammer Community:

The new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes are available to pre-order in August. A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear. And this is just the beginning – there’s a lot in store for the new edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:40:41


Post by: Voss


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/03/warhammer-preview-online-dominion-celebration/

Pictures and everything are up.

---
Unlike Adam (seriously, just email the man a list of talking points before the show), the WarCom people apparently know things:
Both battletomes are pre-order in August.
Some manner of Chaos book will be October.

----
Next Saturday will be a 40k Ork preview


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:41:08


Post by: Clockpunk


Damn, I was hoping we might just get a sneak peek at the rumoured 'chaos-worshippindg Duardin forgemasters'. Ah well... :-/

Also, no new faction-specific terrain pieces or endless spells? The Kruelboyz have so much potetial for the latter!

Edit : "A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear." Ahhhhh, fingers crossed.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:43:27


Post by: DaveC


and that's not all

Can you keep a secret? We’ve heard whispers that there are even more new miniatures on the way for the Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans as well. We’ll let you know more as soon as we hear back from our infiltrator grots.


Hopefully Ironjawz get something


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:43:54


Post by: Voss


 Clockpunk wrote:
Damn, I was hoping we might just get a sneak peek at the rumoured 'chaos-worshippindg Duardin forgemasters'. Ah well.

Also, no new faction-specific terrain pieces or endless spells? The Kruelboyz have so much potetial for the latter!


They aren't done:
"Can you keep a secret? We’ve heard whispers that there are even more new miniatures on the way for the Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans as well. We’ll let you know more as soon as we hear back from our infiltrator grots."


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:45:34


Post by: ImAGeek


I like the crocodile crossed with a giant land sloth.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:46:00


Post by: Chopstick


The Stormcast archer used thumb draw, that's an improvement from GW designer, but the arrow placed on right side of the bow would still fall off, kinda weird considered the other archer model placed the arrow on the left side.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:47:45


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, models and books.

Show us the new terrain!!!


At the very least, bring back some of the old terrain sets! Skullvane Manse, Dreadfane Tor, Altar of Skulls, Sector Imperialis


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:48:06


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


I think i like the Axe version of the Ork troops more, coupled with their helmets and round shields gives them kind of a vaguely Viking look.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:51:52


Post by: Ghaz


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, models and books.

Show us the new terrain!!!


At the very least, bring back some of the old terrain sets! Skullvane Manse, Dreadfane Tor, Altar of Skulls, Sector Imperialis

They have in the past. For example, they brought back the Skullvane Manse as the Warscryer Citadel during the Malign Portents event.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:54:25


Post by: Voss


I'm surprised by the range of options on the kits. The monsters have 2-3 heads, different gear for the riders, a lot of little touches.

Probably the most disappointing kit will be the crossbows, simply because it looks like a pretty static 3-model unit.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 17:55:26


Post by: tneva82


2 handed annihilators. 1/3 upgrade or every model can take? Aka is annihilator squad in dominion waste of money


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 18:21:11


Post by: warboss


I think we've crossed into bizarro hobby world. The orcs, previously some of the most stylized misproportioned models, are getting a true scale style refresh whereas the sigmarines, previously somewhat proportionally correct, are getting theri weapons and accessories cranked up to JRPG levels. Interesting...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 18:32:51


Post by: Infernalis


What? Their weapons are just as much Jrpgs than the previous Stormcast. Look at the huge hammers of the retributors for example.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 18:35:15


Post by: Galas


 warboss wrote:
I think we've crossed into bizarro hobby world. The orcs, previously some of the most stylized misproportioned models, are getting a true scale style refresh whereas the sigmarines, previously somewhat proportionally correct, are getting theri weapons and accessories cranked up to JRPG levels. Interesting...


What? This Stormcast are MUCH better proportionally correct than old chunky stormcast. And their weapons. I mean, just compare this new archers to old stormcast archers.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 18:35:54


Post by: Ladislav


It will now be all about rules and how good will old units be in the new book.

I received my Dominion today and scale of some new Stormcasts units feels wrong. It is like if we got scout chamber. Only Annihilators feel the same.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 18:39:28


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 warboss wrote:
I think we've crossed into bizarro hobby world. The orcs, previously some of the most stylized misproportioned models, are getting a true scale style refresh whereas the sigmarines, previously somewhat proportionally correct, are getting theri weapons and accessories cranked up to JRPG levels. Interesting...


...
What?
Stormcasts finally look like humans for the most part, and not like armored Gorillas
And these Orks have itsy-bitsy little leggies


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 0017/07/03 18:40:04


Post by: CMLR


While I do preferer Sigmarines in silver, I am one of the 3 guys who still like them on gold anyway, so I am quite happy with them all of them.

As a day 0 defender of them, I am glad they took this strides to make them better.

But I can't fool no one: Kruleboyz are DA winnaz 'ere.

Hopeful to see more for everyone in Destruction. Please, gimme more crude siege weapons.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 18:47:53


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 warboss wrote:
I think we've crossed into bizarro hobby world. The orcs, previously some of the most stylized misproportioned models, are getting a true scale style refresh whereas the sigmarines, previously somewhat proportionally correct, are getting theri weapons and accessories cranked up to JRPG levels. Interesting...

Are you seriously arguing the model on the right is more proportional, more realistic and less ludicrous in terms of their getup compared to the one on the left.

[Thumb - new.PNG]


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 18:48:00


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
And these Orks have itsy-bitsy little leggies


They're a bit Privateer Press in that regard, yea


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 18:54:36


Post by: warboss


For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.

Spoiler:


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 18:57:17


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 warboss wrote:
For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.

Spoiler:

They've always been like that, they just look larger because the men wielding them are no longer almost as wide as they are tall

[Thumb - big boy hammer.PNG]


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 19:26:11


Post by: NAVARRO


Nice Multipart alternatives. I will skip the dominion annihilators now and go for these sweet multipart kit instead.
So overall a very nice update, still not keen on the orc at all( even the grots look a bit weird) but I will add the Bastian carthalos model to my list of must haves.

So far the new edition has added Annihilators multipart kit, Bastian and Yndrasta. Pretty happy with that.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 19:29:56


Post by: Sotahullu


... So am I only one wondering that are we going to actually get new grots or are the only grots going to be riding on trolls?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 19:36:00


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Sotahullu wrote:
... So am I only one wondering that are we going to actually get new grots or are the only grots going to be riding on trolls?


If I was in a faction that let me ride trolls, I wouldn't be going on foot, I tell you hwhat


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 19:45:44


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Okay, but what about an entire unit of Stabba Grots?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 20:04:06


Post by: Cronch


big grandpa is cool, but someone tell the marine chaplain to stop cosplaying and get back to work.
The crocmonster is fine, the sloth-troll is horrid (good idea, but i'd have to toss holy water every 5 minutes on that thing if I kept it around, truly gross in a good way), everything else feels flat? I am not a fan of the bog orcs still.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 20:07:42


Post by: GoatboyBeta


Ooh thunderstorm on Dominion release day, best get on with those Stormcast

Liking pretty much everything that was shown, with the SC Vigilors and the Kruleboyz crocodile/sloth monster being my personal faves from each faction. I would have liked to have seen something about the new terrain though. And the Hammers of Sigmar getting yet another(admittedly very good looking) special character feels like a bit of overkill at this point. But minor gripes overall.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 20:12:47


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Anyone else hoping for updated Black Orcs? Pretty confident they’re the oldest Orc kit left in production.

The kit itself isn’t all that great, and they do look somewhat out of place due to the smoothness of their rumour.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 20:17:37


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Anyone else hoping for updated Black Orcs? Pretty confident they’re the oldest Orc kit left in production.

The kit itself isn’t all that great, and they do look somewhat out of place due to the smoothness of their rumour.


Aka 'Ardboyz? Tbh, i kinda like them just because their armour just looks more... purpose-built, compared to other Ironjawz that just their armour just kinda roughly hammered into vaguely the shape it should be.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 20:33:06


Post by: DaveC


Given the choice between new Ardboyz and something new I can live with the current Ardboyz they look a lot better with unarmoured Brute heads and few spare Brute weapons and bits here and there. The Underworlds warband kept the overall look of the armour and just dropped the goofy helmets.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 20:44:53


Post by: Overread


I'm not surprised in what we saw in terms of the armies covered. Indeed its fully what I expected - more units for both of the core armies in Dominus along with Battletomes for both. Anything else would have been a nice extra ,but I fully expect both those forces to dominate for the next month or two. After that I'd expect a 40K swingback and then a swing back to AoS with new Tomes for further armies.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 20:48:46


Post by: Ghaz


 Overread wrote:
I'm not surprised in what we saw in terms of the armies covered. Indeed its fully what I expected - more units for both of the core armies in Dominus along with Battletomes for both. Anything else would have been a nice extra ,but I fully expect both those forces to dominate for the next month or two. After that I'd expect a 40K swingback and then a swing back to AoS with new Tomes for further armies.

Since they don't go on pre-order until August, it looks like July might be a 40K month.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 20:57:32


Post by: Grimskul


Personally I'm fine with Ardboyz as they are, though I'd be cool with seeing more variants of them, especially in terms of heroes. I'd also like for Brutes to feel more like an elite unit instead of them directly competing against Ardboyz when it comes to their statlines.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/02/24 18:00:26


Post by: NAVARRO


I would rather have new stuff for savage orcs.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 21:06:58


Post by: Grimskul


 NAVARRO wrote:
I would rather have new stuff for savage orcs.


That too, their range has definitely been languishing for a while now.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 21:09:38


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Savage Orcs are relatively recent. Pretty confident they came out during 8th Ed?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 21:10:41


Post by: Gimgamgoo


With the exception of the 'giant crawling naked ferengi', all those new models looked really good.

I'm looking forward to getting many of them. And good on GW for answering my earlier questions on a Stormcast and Orruk battletome. :-)


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 21:18:06


Post by: AduroT


I would love a new Ard Boyz kit. Don’t care for how the current one doesn’t match the other Ironjaws’ less refined armor.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 21:19:15


Post by: zanzibarthefirst


I’m hoping the kruleboyz have a bit more to come because I’m pretty disappointed with them at the moment as there doesn’t much variety in army composition. One battleline isn’t enough, some archers would be good.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 21:21:45


Post by: AduroT


zanzibarthefirst wrote:
I’m hoping the kruleboyz have a bit more to come because I’m pretty disappointed with them at the moment as there doesn’t much variety in army composition. One battleline isn’t enough, some archers would be good.


They’ve already got about as much as Ironjaws and Savage Orcs combined.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 21:21:46


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I wasn’t expecting them to be just another flavour of Orc.

But looking at the wider War Clans, they’ve got more units than their contemporaries.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh snap.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 21:52:45


Post by: Ghaz


 AduroT wrote:
I would love a new Ard Boyz kit. Don’t care for how the current one doesn’t match the other Ironjaws’ less refined armor.

That's covered in the fluff. From page 31 of the Orruk Warclans battletome:

Though they are terrifyingly strong, Ardboys are not able to batter metal into shape with their fists as easily as Brutes. Because of this, they must scavenge or forge their own equipment – or bully others into doing it for them – a fact that accounts for the somewhat eclectic mixture of weapons found in their mobs


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 22:27:39


Post by: Zwan1One


Liking most of the new orruks. Not sold on the bucket helmets and some of the short legs. Not always a problem just more obvious occasionally. Probably won’t be a problem once lined upon a table. But overall a very sinister army
I would love to see standard boar boyz back. Those are some great sculpts.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 22:34:32


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Meanwhile the bucket helmets are my favourite part, I hope (but doubt) there will be enough in each box for the whole squad


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/03 22:45:08


Post by: AduroT


Meanwhile meanwhile my plan is to see if I can head swap all of them to more traditional Orky heads I’ve been collecting.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 00:51:40


Post by: Either/Or


I hope the Kruleboyz can be run reasonably on their own. The other warclan units will look bizarre to me mixed with these. I think the Kruleboyz would look better mixed with gloom spite if going for a broader army.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 01:44:36


Post by: lord marcus


Stupidly excited for the new stormcast units.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 03:10:57


Post by: AduroT


 AduroT wrote:
Meanwhile meanwhile my plan is to see if I can head swap all of them to more traditional Orky heads I’ve been collecting.


Posted a couple rough tests over in Modeling;

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/799483.page


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 04:07:07


Post by: streetsamurai


Really cool models, especially the kruel boyz. Just a bit sad that orc gorillas seems to be going the way of the dodo. Call me weird, but I would have liked the kb a lot more if they were something else than orcs


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 04:28:30


Post by: Voss


I do kind of wish there was more separation between this release and the 40k orks.

Having both basically back to back is a bit too much green at once- it actually made me pick one or the other. (And I also think that Orks are going to be an unbalanced mess of uneven point costs)


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 05:11:25


Post by: Sotahullu


 AduroT wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
Meanwhile meanwhile my plan is to see if I can head swap all of them to more traditional Orky heads I’ve been collecting.


Posted a couple rough tests over in Modeling;

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/799483.page


Well I am opposite, I don't mind the heads but I really would want to swap shields.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 06:46:00


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Voss wrote:
(And I also think that Orks are going to be an unbalanced mess of uneven point costs)
Yeah that's what a normal GW release is. Not even exaggerating, sadly.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 07:15:05


Post by: Togusa


Went to the Warhammer store today as I decided that I wanted to try and get a box afterall. Was pleasantly surprised to see that while stock was plentiful, a large portion of it had sold.

The box quality is great, the two armies look even better in person. I'm looking forward to sitting down this weekend and building everything, seeing how it all comes out. Loving the new orks, and I was quite excited to hear that the books are coming soon.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 09:32:02


Post by: Geifer


That preview has been pretty unexciting to me. I had hoped for something interesting for Sigmarines. Maybe next time.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 09:35:40


Post by: Overread


They've still got that chariot with gryph chargers pulling it


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 09:38:56


Post by: Dysartes


I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 09:53:14


Post by: NAVARRO


 AduroT wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
Meanwhile meanwhile my plan is to see if I can head swap all of them to more traditional Orky heads I’ve been collecting.


Posted a couple rough tests over in Modeling;

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/799483.page


Stop this please your making a better job than GW at tempting me to get these orcs.

They look so much better!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 10:00:56


Post by: Geifer


 Overread wrote:
They've still got that chariot with gryph chargers pulling it


You know what they say. Pics or it didn't happen.

Yeah, I know, no point rehashing models they've already shown. I had still hoped for more. Now don't get me wrong, if GW is intent on primarisizing Sigmarines after only six years I can appreciate getting the core choices done and out of the way. Nothing wrong with the infantry per se (except for the fatboys, I really don't like those), but so far the new style Sigmarines don't have an eye-catching big or centerpiece unit. Just loads and loads of infantry. Bit dull making an army of just that.

I wonder if they ever meant to show the new starter sets in this preview but held off because they still have Dominion boxes left to sell through before they want to advertise the followup product. Been interested in those.

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?


They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 11:50:59


Post by: mortar_crew


 Geifer wrote:
 Overread wrote:
They've still got that chariot with gryph chargers pulling it


You know what they say. Pics or it didn't happen.

Yeah, I know, no point rehashing models they've already shown. I had still hoped for more. Now don't get me wrong, if GW is intent on primarisizing Sigmarines after only six years I can appreciate getting the core choices done and out of the way. Nothing wrong with the infantry per se (except for the fatboys, I really don't like those), but so far the new style Sigmarines don't have an eye-catching big or centerpiece unit. Just loads and loads of infantry. Bit dull making an army of just that.

I wonder if they ever meant to show the new starter sets in this preview but held off because they still have Dominion boxes left to sell through before they want to advertise the followup product. Been interested in those.

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?


They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.



Yes, archers of late are not too much into shooting...
Blissbarb archers on foot have the same issue: most of them are running or posing, not actually shooting...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 12:53:06


Post by: Dysartes


 Geifer wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?


They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.

You'd hope someone would point out to the daft pointy-ears that their stringing system really doesn't work, and makes them look even more stupid than normal.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 13:25:36


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Dysartes wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?


They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.

You'd hope someone would point out to the daft pointy-ears that their stringing system really doesn't work, and makes them look even more stupid than normal.


Is there anything not daft about Lumineth.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 13:43:33


Post by: Dysartes


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?


They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.

You'd hope someone would point out to the daft pointy-ears that their stringing system really doesn't work, and makes them look even more stupid than normal.


Is there anything not daft about Lumineth.

...the Wardens and the Dawnriders?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/04 16:36:30


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Eh, if the race created by Teclis has magic woven into its bows to make them work I'm not complaining. My pet theory is the three-string thing started as an idea for how to keep the top string from breaking as soon as someone brushes their hand across the top of the mini.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 06:34:39


Post by: stratigo


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I think i like the Axe version of the Ork troops more, coupled with their helmets and round shields gives them kind of a vaguely Viking look.


Well, "viking"

Actual vikings didn't look much different then anyone around them.

 warboss wrote:
For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.

Spoiler:


My favorite part of this model is how mad the fact that it's a black dude is making some parts of the internet.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 06:42:51


Post by: Togusa


stratigo wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I think i like the Axe version of the Ork troops more, coupled with their helmets and round shields gives them kind of a vaguely Viking look.


Well, "viking"

Actual vikings didn't look much different then anyone around them.

 warboss wrote:
For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.

Spoiler:


My favorite part of this model is how mad the fact that it's a black dude is making some parts of the internet.


What parts? I haven't seen a single person mad about him.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 06:56:53


Post by: Hanskrampf


Togusa wrote:
stratigo wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I think i like the Axe version of the Ork troops more, coupled with their helmets and round shields gives them kind of a vaguely Viking look.


Well, "viking"

Actual vikings didn't look much different then anyone around them.

 warboss wrote:
For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.

Spoiler:


My favorite part of this model is how mad the fact that it's a black dude is making some parts of the internet.


What parts? I haven't seen a single person mad about him.

/tg probably.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 08:15:55


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I think i like the Axe version of the Ork troops more, coupled with their helmets and round shields gives them kind of a vaguely Viking look.
Agreed, and I think it fits the raider aspect of their fluff in channeling that archetype.

stratigo wrote:
Well, "viking"

Actual vikings didn't look much different then anyone around them.
Well duh, all the people around them had horned helmets too!

But seriously, you know exactly what he meant.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 13:42:06


Post by: Cataphract


Well now. Looks like we have a name for the Mouth of Mork AND a look at an upcoming unit for the KB.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/05/broken-realms-fiction-kunnin/


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 17:45:08


Post by: NinthMusketeer


They sound totally awesome, excited to see them. Also we have the Moth of Mork off to meet with the Fist of Gork, excited for the story prospects to boot.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 17:53:34


Post by: Lord Damocles


 Dysartes wrote:
I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?

Given that there are already multiple bow-armed Stormcast units, presumably the swords will help to differentiate them somewhat.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 18:40:46


Post by: Taarnak


I really hate GWs Orcs/Orks/Orruks so I was initially hesitant about the Kruleboyz.

I frickin love them! I love them so much I actually pre-ordered Dominion. Haven't done that in a very long time.

Really like all the new Stormcast stuff too. I just wish they would drop the fascination with robes/dresses/"tabards" etc. Also the tactical detritus is a bit over the top on some of them.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 19:33:58


Post by: warl0rdb0b


Flying cavalry for the Kruleboyz is a bit of a surprise, but a welcome one to make them different to the rest of the greenskin factions, looking forward to seeing the models when they get released. Really liking the Kruleboyz so far, more so than anything else Orukk related.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 20:02:29


Post by: Dysartes


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They sound totally awesome, excited to see them. Also we have the Moth of Mork off to meet with the Fist of Gork, excited for the story prospects to boot.


The Moth of Mork was unfortunately somewhat distracted by the moon the Gloomspite Gits are trying to jump over...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/05 21:23:17


Post by: GaroRobe


You can sort of see one of the new mounts on the new battletome cover. There's a feather winged monster on the far right corner that definitely doesn't belong to Ironjawz, Gloomspite, or Bonesplittaz. I'm guessing all the unsolved vulture rumor engines will go to the Kruelboyz?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/06 05:03:17


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Dysartes wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They sound totally awesome, excited to see them. Also we have the Moth of Mork off to meet with the Fist of Gork, excited for the story prospects to boot.


The Moth of Mork was unfortunately somewhat distracted by the moon the Gloomspite Gits are trying to jump over...
Exalted!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/06 05:59:26


Post by: Chikout


There is at least one Stormcast dragon coming, possibly a cavalry unit too.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/06 08:58:20


Post by: NAVARRO


Chikout wrote:
There is at least one Stormcast dragon coming, possibly a cavalry unit too.


Flying dracolines would be amazing.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/06 19:00:28


Post by: CMLR


Isn't the Mouth of Mork the same Devouring Maw the Ogres worship?

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They sound totally awesome, excited to see them. Also we have the Moth of Mork off to meet with the Fist of Gork, excited for the story prospects to boot.


Kitbashing Gitz and Sylvaneth?



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/07 16:40:00


Post by: Ashaar


In a new warhammer community article https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/07/expert-painters-take-on-the-dominion-stormcast-eternals-and-the-results-are-inspiring/ there's a new stormcast with a headswap - does anyone know what helmet it is? It looks like a Sisters of Battle one, but the eyes are different and it looks like the lower half of the face isn't covered like theirs are.
Spoiler:



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/07 16:41:31


Post by: Siygess


I was just reading about that. Empire Greatswords kit, apparantly.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/07 17:07:58


Post by: GaroRobe


Yeah, I think you can see it on the website. The guy holding the banner has it, I believe.

Chris Peach loves using them for his Cities of sigmar army (uses them as irondrakes), so it's got to be possible to find them in bulk somewhere online


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/07 19:01:29


Post by: Scrub


Nicest looking sigmarine i've seen yet by a country mile. Amazing what such a simple modification can do. Quite tempted to get my own so good job there!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/07 22:35:54


Post by: Schmapdi


I came to this thread to find that out too - Sigmarine's look waaaay better with a standard helmet and a normal color scheme. I could see myself painting up some of those.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/07 23:22:10


Post by: Galas


Stormcast, changing their heads for a bunch of normal, heavy knight helmets, and with really any other colour scheme than golden makes a "meh" army into the best heavy knight-warriors themed army out there.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 00:48:13


Post by: GaroRobe


Check out his instagram (the_convertorum). He has a couple in that style and they all look really great. Very Brettonian. Even the ones without special helmets are cool (I think he probably used some grey knight heads for the helmetless ones)


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 06:32:36


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


No great shock that the July collectors coin is a Stormcast Eternal one, the miniature of the month (both available from July 10th) is a unique(?) sculpt Vindicator with debris strewn base. Photo from the Coventry GW store Facebook page:



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 08:45:41


Post by: Overread


The model being actually unique is a surprise!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 09:05:05


Post by: Oguhmek


The proportions of these new Stormcast are really so much better than the old chunky ones.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 09:41:45


Post by: Geifer


Ashaar wrote:
In a new warhammer community article https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/07/expert-painters-take-on-the-dominion-stormcast-eternals-and-the-results-are-inspiring/ there's a new stormcast with a headswap - does anyone know what helmet it is? It looks like a Sisters of Battle one, but the eyes are different and it looks like the lower half of the face isn't covered like theirs are.
Spoiler:



This isn't just a really cool Sigmarine but testament to what minimal conversion work and a good paintjob can do for the army.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 09:43:38


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I think the lid is from the Greatswords kit?



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 12:06:54


Post by: streetsamurai


 Galas wrote:
Stormcast, changing their heads for a bunch of normal, heavy knight helmets, and with really any other colour scheme than golden makes a "meh" army into the best heavy knight-warriors themed army out there.


Was exactly thinking the same. When i first heard of them being kind of fantasy space marines, I was expecting them to look like this. Instead, we got the embodiment vulgarity


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 12:48:02


Post by: GaroRobe


 Overread wrote:
The model being actually unique is a surprise!


I don't think its too surprising. I think they did something similar with Primaris, though I want to say it was a constant freebie at GW stores, not just a monthly model. The primaris wasn't super unique, but it did have a scenic base, much like this guy


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 13:51:39


Post by: Theophony


 streetsamurai wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Stormcast, changing their heads for a bunch of normal, heavy knight helmets, and with really any other colour scheme than golden makes a "meh" army into the best heavy knight-warriors themed army out there.


Was exactly thinking the same. When i first heard of them being kind of fantasy space marines, I was expecting them to look like this. Instead, we got the embodiment vulgarity


I think Peculiar Companions did a Landschnekt knights patreon recently with .stl files. I may have to look it up and print some of those heads and finally paint some Stormcasts.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 13:53:09


Post by: AduroT


I think I actually prefer the wider Stormcast, for the kind of big beefy superhuman type aesthetic. The new ones look too much like regular dudes in shape.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 14:06:28


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 AduroT wrote:
I think I actually prefer the wider Stormcast, for the kind of big beefy superhuman type aesthetic. The new ones look too much like regular dudes in shape.


It certainly helps making Stormcasts look diffrent from Marines.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 14:20:15


Post by: Cronch


 AduroT wrote:
I think I actually prefer the wider Stormcast, for the kind of big beefy superhuman type aesthetic. The new ones look too much like regular dudes in shape.

maybe, but the new ones look like they can touch their toes.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/08 23:10:17


Post by: CMLR


I wonder if this year there will be a Prigmarines Battleforce.

I wouldn't be surprised to see one for the Kruleboyz.

I still wish for a Mega-Gargants Battleforce, comprising of a 2 models bundle.

On a different note, can somebody please tell me (via PM, should you wish, to avoid off-topics here) about traiding groups on Facebook and even Reddit that don't mind international shippings for oop products? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/10 04:37:28


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Random thought; I really like how the starter set provides full command options as options. The 10x Vindicators, for example, can do two 5-man units each with a champion, a 10-man with one champion, or be assembled all as regular dudes. The banners can also be assembled as regular dudes. It is just really dam convenient to be able to do that.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/10 13:25:25


Post by: Platuan4th


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Random thought; I really like how the starter set provides full command options as options.


For Stormcast, sure. Meanwhile, the Boltboyz are missing their unit leader upgrades and the Gutrippaz are missing their musician and standard, all of which we either need to convert or wait for the retail boxes to upgrade.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/10 15:07:49


Post by: warl0rdb0b


Yeah, it certainly feels like the Kruleboyz got the short end, they only have one battleline unit compared to the 1-2 for the Stormcast, and its not even a complete unit in terms of command group, yet the Hobgrots get options for 2 full sets of command on the sprues.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/10 15:57:12


Post by: NinthMusketeer


For the options that are there though, full hobgrot command and gutrippaz leader, they can be assembled as either. Still an improvement over previous iterations. I also note that the gutrippaz and boltboyz are integrated sprues with other models, while the hobgrots have their own. I suspect they simply ran out of space.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/10 16:18:15


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


I think the sprues are indicative of what we already partly know after last weeks AOS preview...Dominion just like Indomitus contains some units like the Hobgrots and Necron Warriors that will get released as is for the army. Meanwhile the Gutrippaz are getting an new multi part sprues like the chain sword and bolt pistol Primaris Marines in Indomitus did. So it makes sense to give the Hobgrots their full options and the Gutrippas less so.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/10 16:50:06


Post by: lord_blackfang


Honestly the market is always so flooded with starter set units that I wish they'd not spend resources on tooling "multipart" (but barely so, lately) versions of the same models.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 15:13:54


Post by: Ghaz


Wow, who would have expected something like this [/sarcasm]


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 15:24:03


Post by: NAVARRO


No Yndrasta. Meh


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 15:25:13


Post by: Cronch


Great value for money, but not as good as the Dominion starter box. Which if you order now, you can still get with the Very Limited, Selling Fast set of commemorative coins!


Sarcasm aside, unless these are going to be very cheap, they look like no value for money at all.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 15:28:06


Post by: lord_blackfang


As everybody predicted, same formula as 40k. I got 2 Dominions, I'm good.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 15:30:07


Post by: DaveC


 NAVARRO wrote:
No Yndrasta. Meh


Until they release that sprue for £70 - £90 on its own!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 15:33:41


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Now release that terrain separately damn it!!!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 15:41:09


Post by: Prometheum5


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Now release that terrain separately damn it!!!


For 40k 3e that took another what, month to get the terrain boxes?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 15:46:19


Post by: SamusDrake


Didn't care much for the larger Dominon set but the little Warrior edition fits the bill nicely. Exactly the Stormcasts I was hoping for and although not interested in the Kruleboyz models they are welcome nonetheless, so long as the set its roughly £32.50.

After the 40K recruit edition I was a bit worried they wouldn't include a printed copy of the core rules, so thats a nice surprise.

Can't wait to add the Knight-Arcanum to my current party for Heros of the Hinterlands, hopefully pairing them up with Neave Blacktalon should the local WH Smiths have that copy of Mortal Realms this week.

Not relevant to AoS but on the subject of paint sets I still can't fathom why there isn't a contrast paint set. They are aimed at beginners and speed painters, afterall...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 15:49:59


Post by: Ghaz


Looking at the paint set I'm a little surprised that they didn't use the new STC synthetic brushes for them.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 17:18:04


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Doesn't seem like there's any Annihilators included. That's all I really wanted to have in a set.

Guess it's off to eBay I go...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 17:22:20


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Doesn't seem like there's any Annihilators included. That's all I really wanted to have in a set.

Guess it's off to eBay I go...


I assume that's because GW is making a standalone multipart kit.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 17:27:45


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


 Ghaz wrote:
Looking at the paint set I'm a little surprised that they didn't use the new STC synthetic brushes for them.


It looks like the starter brush you got in Mortal realms and Conquest, they are hideous brushes good only for basing and really rough jobs. They are synthetic as well.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 17:29:20


Post by: Prometheum5


ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
Looking at the paint set I'm a little surprised that they didn't use the new STC synthetic brushes for them.


It looks like the starter brush you got in Mortal realms and Conquest, they are hideous brushes good only for basing and really rough jobs. They are synthetic as well.


I find that they make decent small drybrushes for details and then once they fray they are OK rough stipplers. Biggest issue I have with the starter brushes is that the handles are practically made of balsa wood and very easy to snap while cleaning a brush.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 17:35:07


Post by: Commodus Leitdorf


AH so theres the Starter set! New it would come out not long after...I must say even though it has less minis Terrain is an acceptable alternative.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 17:42:46


Post by: jullevi


 Prometheum5 wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Now release that terrain separately damn it!!!


For 40k 3e that took another what, month to get the terrain boxes?


Command Edition Battlefield Expansion (board+scenery) was released at the same time as starter sets. Battlezone: Manufactorum: Vertigus (big set with another exclusive terrain piece) was released month and a half later.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 18:00:02


Post by: CMLR


Why would you think that Yndrasta would be on this?

I have to say that her head part is a fail; her back rod broke and now I might need some kind of pin because she just won't fit correctly.

I am surprised that the orc boss on mutant xoloitzcuintle (mexican "naked" dog breed, google it, they are just the same) is not included on the biggest kit.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 18:06:58


Post by: Prometheum5


 CMLR wrote:
Why would you be surprised that Yndrasta would be on this?

I have to say that her head part is a fail; her back rod broke and now I might need some kind of pin because she just won't fit correctly.

I am surprised that the orc boss on mutant xoloitzcuintle (mexican "naked" dog breed, google it, they are just the same) is not included on the biggest kit.


Seems like both fancy centerpiece models would be destined for individual box releases, so not in the starters.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 18:20:04


Post by: jullevi


 Prometheum5 wrote:

Seems like both fancy centerpiece models would be destined for individual box releases, so not in the starters.


This was known from the moment Dominion contents were revealed as it became obvious that Dominion would mimic Indomitus release.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 18:23:19


Post by: SamusDrake


Considering she is on the front cover of the main core book and clearly a center piece faction model - if not the face of 3rd Edition itself, it seems a bit naff that Yndrastra is stuck on one of those horrible, overpriced "court" sprues. Which is a shame as for Soul Wars we were treated to the wonderful Astreia Solbright for only £25...

I suppose one could take the current ETB Sequitor Prime( with a similar hair style ), a new Vindicator, wings and some left over Stormcast pieces and kitbash an alternative model for less?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 20:44:09


Post by: Irbis


 CMLR wrote:
I am surprised that the orc boss on mutant xoloitzcuintle (mexican "naked" dog breed, google it, they are just the same) is not included on the biggest kit.

Why? It's the exact same model as Indomitus. Small starter has least HQ model in it, medium starter has the medium HQ model, big starter is medium one + some terrain, while the big, heavy hitting HQ + elite minions sprue will be available separately for insane amounts of money. It's so copy paste I am surprised anyone didn't saw this coming.

Also, is small starter has sane price, it might become the most popular purchase of people wanting to bulk up new ork armies, 11 'big' bodies if you can find spare 40k ork heads somewhere

Cronch wrote:
Great value for money, but not as good as the Dominion starter box.

Meh, nothing will beat 8th edition 40K/2nd edition AoS in this regard. I bought Tempest of Souls with Dominion and was shocked to see ToS being the same size (if thinner) for 1/3 of the money Dominion cost. Hell, the big starters both were the same size and cost like 60% of Dominion


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 21:28:25


Post by: flaherty


 Irbis wrote:
 CMLR wrote:
I am surprised that the orc boss on mutant xoloitzcuintle (mexican "naked" dog breed, google it, they are just the same) is not included on the biggest kit.

Why? It's the exact same model as Indomitus. Small starter has least HQ model in it, medium starter has the medium HQ model, big starter is medium one + some terrain, while the big, heavy hitting HQ + elite minions sprue will be available separately for insane amounts of money. It's so copy paste I am surprised anyone didn't saw this coming.

Also, is small starter has sane price, it might become the most popular purchase of people wanting to bulk up new ork armies, 11 'big' bodies if you can find spare 40k ork heads somewhere

Cronch wrote:
Great value for money, but not as good as the Dominion starter box.

Meh, nothing will beat 8th edition 40K/2nd edition AoS in this regard. I bought Tempest of Souls with Dominion and was shocked to see ToS being the same size (if thinner) for 1/3 of the money Dominion cost. Hell, the big starters both were the same size and cost like 60% of Dominion


That's not the apples to apples comparison. Soul Wars was the 2.0 flagship starter, the closest product to Dominon. Tempest of Souls was the mid-range offering, closer to the new "Harbinger" kit they just announced today.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 21:37:26


Post by: KidCthulhu


Wake me when the hobgrots are available separate. That's the only unit that really grabs me.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/12 21:49:54


Post by: Cronch


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/12/broken-realms-fiction-the-scales-of-victory/
A nice story about Seraphon reviving the dragon race that fought cranknos, leaving absolutely no doubt that Stormcast are getting new models because of that.

Ha ha stinky seraphon, you thought you'd get new models to replace your ancient saurus cavalry? Peasants.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/13 07:28:52


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.

Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/13 08:46:16


Post by: Geifer


Not in a hurry to buy anything, but the terrain in the big set speaks to me. And I like that the Sigmarine bodyguard unit is in the kit. Was worried it was going to be the fat guys.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.

Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.


I know raising prices is GW's favorite pastime, but I can't see this release that so predictably mirrors 40k's to come at higher prices. Not for starter sets.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 08:37:01


Post by: tneva82


 Geifer wrote:
Not in a hurry to buy anything, but the terrain in the big set speaks to me. And I like that the Sigmarine bodyguard unit is in the kit. Was worried it was going to be the fat guys.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.

Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.


I know raising prices is GW's favorite pastime, but I can't see this release that so predictably mirrors 40k's to come at higher prices. Not for starter sets.


From sprue distribution it was easy to see fat guys, banner and yndrasta will be separate 70-80 pound sprue ala necron/marine in indomitus


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 09:06:03


Post by: Geifer


No doubt, but I wasn't so invested in the release to follow it that closely. Big box with big price tag that only has two models I like was a quick write off to me.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 09:11:05


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


tneva82 wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Not in a hurry to buy anything, but the terrain in the big set speaks to me. And I like that the Sigmarine bodyguard unit is in the kit. Was worried it was going to be the fat guys.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.

Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.


I know raising prices is GW's favorite pastime, but I can't see this release that so predictably mirrors 40k's to come at higher prices. Not for starter sets.


From sprue distribution it was easy to see fat guys, banner and yndrasta will be separate 70-80 pound sprue ala necron/marine in indomitus


80? Try 110.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 09:45:16


Post by: tneva82


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Not in a hurry to buy anything, but the terrain in the big set speaks to me. And I like that the Sigmarine bodyguard unit is in the kit. Was worried it was going to be the fat guys.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.

Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.


I know raising prices is GW's favorite pastime, but I can't see this release that so predictably mirrors 40k's to come at higher prices. Not for starter sets.


From sprue distribution it was easy to see fat guys, banner and yndrasta will be separate 70-80 pound sprue ala necron/marine in indomitus


80? Try 110.


Necron sprue 68,marine 89. There's limit even my pessimism.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 14:00:11


Post by: CMLR


 Irbis wrote:

Why?


Because I expected there to be at least one *big* model for the starter set, and obviously Yndrasta is just too good for that.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 17:53:43


Post by: NinthMusketeer


GW has put out a great guide for how to have a wholesome tournament experience: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/15/metawatch-a-beginners-guide-to-the-tournament-scene/

The caveat being that following their advice one will lose (lol that SGL list). But it is likely to be an enjoyable experience anyways and maybe that is the point they are trying to make.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 18:50:30


Post by: Overread


GW has never really, in all its years, been serious about the competitive side. The fact that their core rules changes every edition suggests they take much more of a "dnd" style approach toward rules instead of the Magic the Gathering approach.




AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 19:41:06


Post by: Sarouan


 Overread wrote:
GW has never really, in all its years, been serious about the competitive side. The fact that their core rules changes every edition suggests they take much more of a "dnd" style approach toward rules instead of the Magic the Gathering approach.


Reason why MTG works this way is because they sell cards, not rules. They have only value with a game - unlike miniatures you can just buy for the pleasure of building / painting them. That's why all the rules are "free" with their decks.

Also, the turnover between each edition in MTG is way faster than GW. You would lose your players if your core rules changed as often.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 20:41:15


Post by: Gimgamgoo


Sarouan wrote:
Also, the turnover between each edition in MTG is way faster than GW. You would lose your players if your core rules changed as often.


Long time since I played MtG. Type 2 used to rotate every 2 years. That isn't much different to GW's churn and burn cycle with it's printed material.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 21:23:31


Post by: Ahtman


 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Type 2 used to rotate every 2 years. That isn't much different to GW's churn and burn cycle with it's printed material.


Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader 1st 1987 6 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 2nd Edition Rulebook 2nd 1993 5 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 3rd Edition Rulebook 3rd 1998 6 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 4th Edition Rulebook 4th 2004 4 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 5th Edition Rulebook 5th 2008 4 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition Rulebook 6th 2012 4 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition Rulebook 7th 2014 2 Yr

Sauce

8th was 2017 so 3 years. Still only one 2 year period for 40k but the time between editions is certainly shrinking. For AoS it has been three years between each: 2015, 2018, and 2021. I'd be happy with at least four years between editions but doubt that is going to happen.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 21:30:48


Post by: Ghaz


 Ahtman wrote:
 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Type 2 used to rotate every 2 years. That isn't much different to GW's churn and burn cycle with it's printed material.


Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader 1st 1987 6 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 2nd Edition Rulebook 2nd 1993 5 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 3rd Edition Rulebook 3rd 1998 6 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 4th Edition Rulebook 4th 2004 4 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 5th Edition Rulebook 5th 2008 4 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition Rulebook 6th 2012 4 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition Rulebook 7th 2014 2 Yr

Sauce

8th was 2017 so 3 years. Still only one 2 year period for 40k but the time between editions is certainly shrinking. For AoS it has been three years between each: 2015, 2018, and 2021. I'd be happy with at least four years between editions but doubt that is going to happen.

If 6th was released in 2012 and 7th in 2014, thats 2 years and not 4.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 22:04:25


Post by: Overread


It is marked as 2 years - its 4 years from 2008 to 2012


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 23:03:19


Post by: Ghaz


 Overread wrote:
It is marked as 2 years - its 4 years from 2008 to 2012

Which doesn't fit with Rogue Trader entry. Rogue Trader was released in 1987 and was replaced by 2nd edition in 1993 for a six year lifespan.

Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition Rulebook 6th 2012 4 Yr

So the 6th edition entry should be when 6th was released in 2012 and was replaced by 7th edition in 2014 for a two year lifespan. not a four year lifespan. Each entry should be Edition/Release Date/Lifespan, but it changes at the end of the list.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/15 23:24:02


Post by: Ahtman


Well now I can only see the odd shift but it still doesn't change the years between editions. I wonder if it wasn't supposed to have anything after 7th edition and what was at 6th should have been the 2 so something like this:

Warhammer 40,000 5th Edition Rulebook 5th 2008 4 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition Rulebook 6th 2012 2 Yr
Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition Rulebook 7th 2014


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/16 02:44:58


Post by: NinthMusketeer


MTG simply isn't comparable to wargaming anyways--in all my years of playing both I've never seen an analogy between the two that actually works.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/16 06:00:37


Post by: tneva82


Sarouan wrote:
 Overread wrote:
GW has never really, in all its years, been serious about the competitive side. The fact that their core rules changes every edition suggests they take much more of a "dnd" style approach toward rules instead of the Magic the Gathering approach.


Reason why MTG works this way is because they sell cards, not rules. They have only value with a game - unlike miniatures you can just buy for the pleasure of building / painting them. That's why all the rules are "free" with their decks.

Also, the turnover between each edition in MTG is way faster than GW. You would lose your players if your core rules changed as often.


And gw sells miniatures. With goal of changing rules all the time that people change armies chasing best list thinking they are cunning figuring out the obvious list.

For gw rules are just way to get people buy models


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 00:21:39


Post by: NinthMusketeer


tneva82 wrote:
Sarouan wrote:
 Overread wrote:
GW has never really, in all its years, been serious about the competitive side. The fact that their core rules changes every edition suggests they take much more of a "dnd" style approach toward rules instead of the Magic the Gathering approach.


Reason why MTG works this way is because they sell cards, not rules. They have only value with a game - unlike miniatures you can just buy for the pleasure of building / painting them. That's why all the rules are "free" with their decks.

Also, the turnover between each edition in MTG is way faster than GW. You would lose your players if your core rules changed as often.


And gw sells miniatures. With goal of changing rules all the time that people change armies chasing best list thinking they are cunning figuring out the obvious list.

For gw rules are just way to get people buy models
I don't think rephrasing the statement "a business exists to make money" is effectively delivering whatever point you are trying to make. Like yeah, we know. That's what businesses do.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 00:39:02


Post by: Togusa


 KidCthulhu wrote:
Wake me when the hobgrots are available separate. That's the only unit that really grabs me.


Very cool models, literally worthless rules. You'll auto lose from brining them unless the codex adds some support rules or revisions. They're below dumpster trash.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 00:43:28


Post by: streetsamurai


Can't wait to see the chaos dwarves. these hobgobs makes me pretty sure they are coming soon


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 00:52:01


Post by: Ghaz


 streetsamurai wrote:
Can't wait to see the chaos dwarves. these hobgobs makes me pretty sure they are coming soon

GW has confirmed a Chaos battletome in October, but would GW released another new faction so close after the Kruleboys (who are technically a part of an existing faction)? One can only hope...

The new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes are available to pre-order in August. A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 00:52:29


Post by: Just Tony


H.B.M.C. wrote:Now release that terrain separately damn it!!!


It would be the first new GW purchase I've made in a long time if they did that...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 00:55:28


Post by: streetsamurai


 Ghaz wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
Can't wait to see the chaos dwarves. these hobgobs makes me pretty sure they are coming soon

GW has confirmed a Chaos battletome in October, but would GW released another new faction so close after the Kruleboys (who are technically a part of an existing faction)? One can only hope...

The new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes are available to pre-order in August. A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear.


Wouldn't surprised me. The main thing i like about AoS is that they release new factions continuously


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 03:00:56


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Togusa wrote:
 KidCthulhu wrote:
Wake me when the hobgrots are available separate. That's the only unit that really grabs me.


Very cool models, literally worthless rules. You'll auto lose from brining them unless the codex adds some support rules or revisions. They're below dumpster trash.
Objectively false; there is a large number of roles they can serve on the battlefield. From chaff to ranged support to reserve blocking to objective campers. They aren't good at any of those roles because they are over costed for their stats, but to call them "literally worthless" is to be literally wrong.


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 Ghaz wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
Can't wait to see the chaos dwarves. these hobgobs makes me pretty sure they are coming soon

GW has confirmed a Chaos battletome in October, but would GW released another new faction so close after the Kruleboys (who are technically a part of an existing faction)? One can only hope...

The new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes are available to pre-order in August. A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear.
I'm betting Beasts of Chaos. They need it, they fit the Ghur theme, it makes sense.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 03:15:02


Post by: streetsamurai


If kragnos is not hashut, i know dont know what it is


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 14:03:54


Post by: DaveC


Ardboys have been reboxed for 3rd so they aren’t changing anytime soon


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AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 14:10:16


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Nice to see a bit of colour in the packaging.

A stupendously minor, yet pleasing thing all the same.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 14:17:30


Post by: NAVARRO


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nice to see a bit of colour in the packaging.

A stupendously minor, yet pleasing thing all the same.


Yes, it does fit the minis much better than the black and white design. Also it has an old school vibe about them doesn't it?

I was looking at eBay and online for the Yndrasta but my eyes keep going to the hobgoblins instead


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 14:38:48


Post by: Cronch


It's still not as good as the 6th-7th ed boxes with art, but astonishingly better looking than the plain white boxes.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 14:55:02


Post by: AduroT


 DaveC wrote:
Ardboys have been reboxed for 3rd so they aren’t changing anytime soon



Dang. Was really hoping they might get a resculpt for the new book.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 16:07:43


Post by: flaherty


 DaveC wrote:
Ardboys have been reboxed for 3rd so they aren’t changing anytime soon



The best thing about this set of edition cycles has been the move towards presenting the painted models in situ on the box. I'm still bothered by the weird, overhanging "R" on the new 40K logo, and don't love the red framing for the new AoS livery, but the overall gestalt is pretty awesome. Looking forward to when the whole line is refreshed – will make the stores look like codex/battletome pages!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 17:10:52


Post by: streetsamurai


 AduroT wrote:
 DaveC wrote:
Ardboys have been reboxed for 3rd so they aren’t changing anytime soon



Dang. Was really hoping they might get a resculpt for the new book.


Yeah unfortunate. They are really showing their age


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 17:11:34


Post by: Ghaz


Lot of new pre-orders for AoS next weekend, including scenery and the endless spells from Malign Sorcery and Forbidden Power.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/18/sunday-preview-starter-sets-sorcery-and-scenery-steal-the-show/


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 17:13:31


Post by: Dysartes


Interesting that the terrain set doesn't feature the domed structure from the Extremis (top-tier) starter, but has a second statue instead.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 17:21:15


Post by: GaroRobe


 NAVARRO wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nice to see a bit of colour in the packaging.

A stupendously minor, yet pleasing thing all the same.


Yes, it does fit the minis much better than the black and white design. Also it has an old school vibe about them doesn't it?


I'm pretty sure the greenskin terrain did appear in the background of some of the orcs and goblins packaging pictures. Very old school indeed


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 17:22:56


Post by: Aeneades


 Dysartes wrote:
Interesting that the terrain set doesn't feature the domed structure from the Extremis (top-tier) starter, but has a second statue instead.


Yeah, that surprised me. I am hoping they release a second set similar to “ Battlezone: Manufactorum – Vertigus” with all the contents and some extra bits.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 17:30:36


Post by: Sotahullu


Aeneades wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Interesting that the terrain set doesn't feature the domed structure from the Extremis (top-tier) starter, but has a second statue instead.


Yeah, that surprised me. I am hoping they release a second set similar to “ Battlezone: Manufactorum – Vertigus” with all the contents and some extra bits.


Well does do turn up later at some point. Maybe with few extra pieces.


But I suspect that the separate terrain set coming now is thought for expanding from Extremis set when you move to bigger games.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 18:01:03


Post by: Dysartes


 Sotahullu wrote:
Aeneades wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Interesting that the terrain set doesn't feature the domed structure from the Extremis (top-tier) starter, but has a second statue instead.


Yeah, that surprised me. I am hoping they release a second set similar to “ Battlezone: Manufactorum – Vertigus” with all the contents and some extra bits.


Well does do turn up later at some point. Maybe with few extra pieces.


But I suspect that the separate terrain set coming now is thought for expanding from Extremis set when you move to bigger games.


That might be the case, and for the walls that's fine, but I can't see why three statues with one dome is a better expansion than two of each.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 18:33:34


Post by: SamusDrake


Preorder for next week? Why, thats absolutely Imperial!

Opps, wrong game...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 19:54:30


Post by: Cataphract


Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

Heroes - Special Characters

​Confirmed


Swampboss Skumdrek - Monster Mount, Anti-Hero


Unconfirmed

Gobsprakk The Mouth of Mork - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard


​Heroes - Mounted
Confirmed

Snatcha Boss on Sludgeraker - Monster Mount, Anti-Hero?

Breakaboss on Mirebrute Troggoth - Monster Mount, Anti-Infantry?

Killaboss on Greatgnashtooth - Monster Mount, Anti-Elite?


Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)


Heroes - Foot
Confirmed

Killaboss with Stabgrot - Support Hero, Tanky.

Swampcalla Shama with Potgrot - Wizard Main, Support

Murknob with Banner - Anti-Magic Hero, some MWs.


Battleline
Confirmed

Guttrippaz - Spear and Sword versions, one for tanking and the other for stabbing?

Behemoth
Confirmed

Swamp Troggoth - Anti-Infantry?



Artillery
Confirmed

Monster-skewer Balista - Anti-Large?



Other Units
Confirmed

Manskewer Boltboyz - Anti-Elite/Foot Heroes? Maybe Conditional Battleline?

Hobgrot Slittaz - Chaaafffff. Maybe Conditional Battleline?



Unconfirmed
Hobgrots on Gnashtooths - Light Cavalry, Objective Stealers.

Terrain

Unconfirmed
Strangler Oak - Causes MWs to enemy units that near it?



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 20:03:48


Post by: Sotahullu


I have a really strong suspicion that we are getting proper grot units with Kruleboyz. Not hobgrots, just grots.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 20:05:51


Post by: jullevi


I was looking forward to buy new Age of Sigmar scenery but lack of dome means that I will wait for bigger set instead (if there is such thing). As a terrain collector I want one of everything.

Penumbral Engine becoming available separetely is positive news. Previously it has only been available in overpriced Forbidden Power set and big Dominion of Sigmar bundle I can't remember the name of.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 20:17:36


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Sotahullu wrote:
I have a really strong suspicion that we are getting proper grot units with Kruleboyz. Not hobgrots, just grots.


IF we got a full 20-man units of Stabba Grots, i might unironically start playing Kruelboyz


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 20:19:48


Post by: Cataphract


 Sotahullu wrote:
I have a really strong suspicion that we are getting proper grot units with Kruleboyz. Not hobgrots, just grots.


So far it seems like the closest Grot unit so far are the ones on the Swamp Troggoth. With minor mention for the ones helping on the Ballista.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 20:24:19


Post by: Ghaz


Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 20:29:59


Post by: Sotahullu


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Sotahullu wrote:
I have a really strong suspicion that we are getting proper grot units with Kruleboyz. Not hobgrots, just grots.


IF we got a full 20-man units of Stabba Grots, i might unironically start playing Kruelboyz


Well I just hope that if we get grots they look good (and cheap). And killy.


Cataphract wrote:
 Sotahullu wrote:
I have a really strong suspicion that we are getting proper grot units with Kruleboyz. Not hobgrots, just grots.


So far it seems like the closest Grot unit so far are the ones on the Swamp Troggoth. With minor mention for the ones helping on the Ballista.


That is it really. I would find it so damn bizarre that there is grots as artillery(?) crew, gladiator sidekick and riding (rather unlucky) troll but not as infantry.



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 20:41:37


Post by: Cataphract


 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 20:53:03


Post by: Ghaz


Cataphract wrote:
Spoiler:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.

Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 21:01:40


Post by: NinthMusketeer


I feel it is relevant to point out that labeling things as 'anti-X' on speculation isn't really worth the effort; units rarely boil down to such simple roles and GWs writing is such that even when intended the reality can be wildly mismatched. Like Yndrasta, the 'monster hunter' with rules that make her a strong support & defensive hero.


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 flaherty wrote:
 DaveC wrote:
Ardboys have been reboxed for 3rd so they aren’t changing anytime soon



The best thing about this set of edition cycles has been the move towards presenting the painted models in situ on the box. I'm still bothered by the weird, overhanging "R" on the new 40K logo, and don't love the red framing for the new AoS livery, but the overall gestalt is pretty awesome. Looking forward to when the whole line is refreshed – will make the stores look like codex/battletome pages!
I also love the new box art, both 40k and fantasy side. Miss the old art days but understand the commercial realities of showing the miniatures. This is a great comprose that makes shelves look cooler.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 21:04:02


Post by: Rihgu


 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Spoiler:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.

Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.


At the ruined castle’s top was what a flock of what Krugrump first took to be birds of prey, but then realised, given the scale of the fortress on which they were perched, were monstrous wyvern-like vultures big enough to carry a grunta in their talons. Each had a greenskin rider atop it. One of the riders, a hunched figure with four banners on its trophy rack, had taken a position higher than the others, and was gesticulating wildly as he held court.


There's a flock of them, and each have a greenskin on their back. There's one with four banners which is Gobsprakk, presumably.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 21:04:41


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Spoiler:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.

Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 21:06:03


Post by: Rihgu


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Spoiler:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.

Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?


Does Alarielle on her Wardroth beetle count? Oh what I wouldn't give to see a generic version of that.

But to your point, that's the only one I can think of off of the top of my head.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 21:41:39


Post by: Voss


Cliff diving Teclis and war-sphinx would count. His little pointy shoes are built into the wing.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 22:25:46


Post by: GaroRobe


Waldroth beetle and Teclis' thing are more magical, one-off creatures though. Not saying they couldn't make a ton of Walroth's, but they do mention multiple Corpse-Rippas in the story.

Gordrakk, the Fist of Gork, also has a generic megaboss option in the set. His Mawkrusha has a metal facemask, but that's about it

And here's where he was referring to:
At the ruined castle’s top was what a flock of what Krugrump first took to be birds of prey, but then realised, given the scale of the fortress on which they were perched, were monstrous wyvern-like vultures big enough to carry a grunta in their talons. Each had a greenskin rider atop it. One of the riders, a hunched figure with four banners on its trophy rack, had taken a position higher than the others, and was gesticulating wildly as he held court


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 22:30:47


Post by: eohall


edit: ninja'd


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/18 22:40:34


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Aeneades wrote:
Yeah, that surprised me. I am hoping they release a second set similar to “ Battlezone: Manufactorum – Vertigus” with all the contents and some extra bits.
That's why I'm waiting.

Jumped at two of the first 9th Ed terrain boxes and then they released Vertigus. Not making that mistake this time.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 03:38:10


Post by: tneva82


 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


Iron jaws have big monster with generic and unique variant in box.

Both lumineth spirit elemental likewise


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 04:26:23


Post by: AduroT


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Spoiler:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.

Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?


Alarielle, Archaon, Teclis.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 04:46:52


Post by: Cataphract


 AduroT wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Spoiler:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.

Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?


Alarielle, Archaon, Teclis.


All three being gods (or more or less) and being characters from the Old World.

I’d say Gobsprakk is generic enough that they would make his box a dual kit similar to Gordrakk.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 13:44:06


Post by: Ghaz


The Maw-krusha is the only large monster in a pure Ironjawz army. Kruleboyz will have the Mirebrute Troggoth, Sludgeraker Beast and Marshcrawla Sloggoth as large monsters in a pure Kruleboyz army. I will not be surprised if the Gobsprakk kit is not a dual unit kit.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 13:59:56


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


 AduroT wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Spoiler:
 Ghaz wrote:
Cataphract wrote:
Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.

​Heroes - Mounted
Unconfirmed

Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)

Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)

I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.


From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.

Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?


Alarielle, Archaon, Teclis.


Thanquol, the Glottkin, Maggoth Lords, Mortarchs.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 14:09:12


Post by: DaveC


Knight-Questor Dacian Anvil Made to order from Saturday 24th for 9 days only. Hopefully they do some of the others as well.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/19/these-brilliant-event-heroes-will-be-available-this-saturday-for-nine-days-only/





AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 14:19:43


Post by: GaroRobe


Wow, I assumed he was lost forever. Good that he's being released.

Someone on reddit pointed out a while ago that he may be a Stormcaste-ed Excelsior warpriest from silver tower. I wish that it was meant to be a homage, but the book and scrolls are different.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 14:28:16


Post by: Shadow Walker


Is there any date given for the release of normal = non push fit, with all the options etc. kit for Kruleboyz Gutrippaz?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 14:29:34


Post by: Ghaz


 Shadow Walker wrote:
Is there any date given for the release of normal = non push fit, with all the options etc. kit for Kruleboyz Gutrippaz?

No, but I wouldn't expect them until the battletome drops (it goes up for pre-order in August).


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 14:30:25


Post by: Shadow Walker


 Ghaz wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
Is there any date given for the release of normal = non push fit, with all the options etc. kit for Kruleboyz Gutrippaz?

No, but I wouldn't expect them until the battletome drops (it goes up for pre-order in August).

Thanks


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 14:32:11


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Well, I’m in for both of those mad lads


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 14:56:48


Post by: lord_blackfang


Are these first plastics on MTO?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 14:57:34


Post by: Rihgu


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Are these first plastics on MTO?


I think the first were the terminator librarian and special sororitas model.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:04:27


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Are these first plastics on MTO?


There's also the whole of Indomitus.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:08:41


Post by: Chikout


This should settle some arguments.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/19/meet-the-powerful-kruleboyz-shaman-whos-best-mates-with-kragnos-or-so-he-claims/

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AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:10:38


Post by: lord_blackfang


Oh no, GW might actually get me to buy a 100€+ hero model


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:11:41


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


So the guy was right, it IS a dual-kit! Just like Gordrakk


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:12:35


Post by: NAVARRO


Yikes that is a big boy!

Shaman is a bit lost with the banners and little details but the boy is quite nice (except fro the sucking lemons head).
Vulture is wicked and would be so cool on a undead army.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:13:11


Post by: SamusDrake


Nope, gone too far now. Avian terrors are a Tzeentch thing!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:13:14


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


God DAMN that bird looks good.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:14:15


Post by: DaveC


Also makes a Killaboss



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:15:14


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


Wow, blown away by this. Prefer the Killaboss version, but very glad to be on the Kruleboyz crazy train.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:15:29


Post by: Cataphract


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
So the guy was right, it IS a dual-kit! Just like Gordrakk


Hahahaha! It’s good to be right.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:17:24


Post by: ImAGeek


The vulture is really excellent. Love it.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:19:08


Post by: GaroRobe


Huh. I don't hate it. I like it more than the sludgeraker, but I'll pass. Great that it has options.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:19:32


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Think I’ll be adding at least one to my nascent Kruelboyz.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:19:51


Post by: Shadow Walker


Wow, that birdy is awesome!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:20:17


Post by: DaveC


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AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:20:34


Post by: GaroRobe


Going back to the story, what was the deal with the talking dead things? Kruleboy magic? Some form of necromancy? Or just hallucinations?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:21:43


Post by: lord_blackfang




Uh, that's the same model, just from very far away


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:21:54


Post by: GaroRobe


 DaveC wrote:
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Looks like the same model, but with a shaman option. Unless thats the Mouth again.
You should keep the photo though. It shows more options


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:22:09


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


Nice! BTW, is that terrain piece on the Killaboss pic something we've seen before? Fits the tactical ruins on the Dominion heroes ...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:23:04


Post by: streetsamurai


Dont think the bird thing fits with orcs


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:24:14


Post by: DaveC


Sorry all same model the focus trick GW do with their pics had me fooled for a second big minis though think the Killaboss looks better.




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AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:28:29


Post by: The Phazer


While I don't think the Kruelboyz in general do much for me compared to Orcs, that's a cracking model.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:29:00


Post by: SamusDrake


If we were the Stormcast Eternals, we’d be hoping to hear about something strong enough to take down Gobsprakk right about now.


The Stardrakes are insulted...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:35:46


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
So the guy was right, it IS a dual-kit! Just like Gordrakk
It's excellent that they're making special character kits into dual-build generic HQ kits as well.

Shame the Sisters missed that boat. Twice.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:41:01


Post by: Ghaz


Hmm. I wonder if you decide to build the Mouth of Mork will the kit provide the bitz to build the Killaboss on foot...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:42:43


Post by: zend


GW has been hitting it out of the park with AoS centerpiece models.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:46:55


Post by: Geifer


I don't know. Want to see a 360 of the model. There's something strange about the bird. Could be cool, but I find it hard to tell. The paint job isn't helping.

SamusDrake wrote:
If we were the Stormcast Eternals, we’d be hoping to hear about something strong enough to take down Gobsprakk right about now.


The Stardrakes are insulted...


If new Sigmarines get their own dragon, chances are the cheap, fat, old dragon gets to add feeling obsolete to the list of grudges against the new lean, mean, money-printing machine.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
So the guy was right, it IS a dual-kit! Just like Gordrakk
It's excellent that they're making special character kits into dual-build generic HQ kits as well.

Shame the Sisters missed that boat. Twice.


Can't win 'em all. But consider, now that we have plastic Sisters we need something new to complain about.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:51:46


Post by: GaroRobe



I thought Gobsprakk's bird head looked familiar. Its the ice roc from that old animated Sinbad film. I wonder if a white color scheme would work...?

Also yeah, I can't believe Judith's floating chapel of death didn't have a generic option. Great SoB model, but not accessible to every order


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 15:51:47


Post by: Dryaktylus


 Geifer wrote:
I don't know. Want to see a 360 of the model.


It's in the video.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:04:30


Post by: Ghaz


 Dryaktylus wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
I don't know. Want to see a 360 of the model.


It's in the video.




AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:14:57


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Grumpy chicken is adorable and I love it! Dudes on the back look ace as well, def my favorite model of the Kruleboyz by far.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:17:56


Post by: GaroRobe


What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:31:25


Post by: Blastaar


Ok, the vulture looks cool, aside from the extra stuff on its back. Too much weight for a bird, even a giant one, and it just looks bad.

I still dislike the trend of flooding the able with enormous miniatures.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:34:44


Post by: Ghaz


 GaroRobe wrote:
What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.

Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:38:02


Post by: GaroRobe


 Ghaz wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.

Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.


Yeah, that's the one. Dacian was set to debut years back, but maybe Covid messed that up? Glad that people who like him have the chance to pick him up.

I stared at the Vulcha too long and now I like it. I wonder if it would work well with an ogor on his back...? Or maybe ridden by one of those chaos people that flay themselves.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:42:49


Post by: Overread


GW has always had a long love of putting high backed armchairs on big monsters. I don't know why its about the only asthetic they've had in the years that I've never liked. This one isn't too bad though at least its not stupidly high as osme of those elf ones; and its mostly banners rather than wide wood; but still darn it GW stop with the armchairs


Otherwise awesome looking model. I'm loving seeing GW giving orruks and orks something new and fresh that isn't justa reshash of what they had before


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:43:48


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


Oh, Sweet Changer, I've have got to find a way to work that bird into a Tzeentch army.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:44:08


Post by: Kanluwen


 Ghaz wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.

Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.

Pretty sure that Dacian was going to be a Store Opening model alongside of Ripper Jackson.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 16:54:09


Post by: Ghaz


 Kanluwen wrote:
Spoiler:
 Ghaz wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.

Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.

Pretty sure that Dacian was going to be a Store Opening model alongside of Ripper Jackson.

They previewed Dacian two and a half months before they announced Ripper as a Store Opening model so I don't see why Dacian wasn't mentioned in the same article alongside her if he was meant to be a Store Opening model. Was there any other events in 2020 that were canceled that would have normally had an exclusive model (e.g., Warhammer Fest) that were not revealed?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 17:17:32


Post by: Kanluwen


 Ghaz wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Spoiler:
 Ghaz wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.

Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.

Pretty sure that Dacian was going to be a Store Opening model alongside of Ripper Jackson.

They previewed Dacian two and a half months before they announced Ripper as a Store Opening model so I don't see why Dacian wasn't mentioned in the same article alongside her if he was meant to be a Store Opening model. Was there any other events in 2020 that were canceled that would have normally had an exclusive model (e.g., Warhammer Fest) that were not revealed?

No, but the "reset" for Store Opening models or Store Anniversary models is in July/August.

Also worth mentioning:
Catachan Colonel was meant to be a Store Anniversary model...and the 2020 models might as well not exist for many folks.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 18:34:09


Post by: GaroRobe


I can't tell if Gobsprakk's ears are his own. They seem a bit odd and I wouldn't put it past him to nail a powerful wizard's ears to his head so he can listen to Mork better


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 18:54:01


Post by: Smaug


 Ghaz wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.

Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.


It looks like she and the Necron figures are also going available at the three US tournaments. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/21/1-us-open-series-3-beautiful-locations-6-grand-tournaments-all-the-gaming-bliss/


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 18:57:06


Post by: Togusa


If Bird boy shaman is as good as foot shaman from the Dominion box, I'ma buy two! They are absolutely killing it with these new Orks.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 19:02:01


Post by: Scrub


Looks and feels as though the AoS sculpts are a bit of fun for GW's artists. The Ork turkey is no exception, a beaut of a model, bravo!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 19:02:01


Post by: Ghaz


Togusa wrote:
If Bird boy shaman is as good as foot shaman from the Dominion box, I'ma buy two! They are absolutely killing it with these new Orks.

Note that Gobsprakk, the Mouth of Mork will most definitely be a Unique model and the alternate build is a Killaboss.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 19:08:01


Post by: Mr_Rose


 Kanluwen wrote:
Also worth mentioning:
Catachan Colonel was meant to be a Store Anniversary model...and the 2020 models might as well not exist for many folks.

And here I thought it was because they’re both awful sculpts that no-one wanted.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 19:18:48


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


 Mr_Rose wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Also worth mentioning:
Catachan Colonel was meant to be a Store Anniversary model...and the 2020 models might as well not exist for many folks.

And here I thought it was because they’re both awful sculpts that no-one wanted.


Personally, I totally want that Aspiring Champion. I'm just not willing to travel to Los Angeles to get her.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 19:23:42


Post by: SamusDrake


 Geifer wrote:


If new Sigmarines get their own dragon, chances are the cheap, fat, old dragon gets to add feeling obsolete to the list of grudges against the new lean, mean, money-printing machine.


Not seen the model in person but from the website and other images the Stardrake looks good. Between the Drake and the Tauralon I don't see why they need another large monster when they both look like they can take this new bird quite easily.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 19:35:59


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


SamusDrake wrote:
 Geifer wrote:


If new Sigmarines get their own dragon, chances are the cheap, fat, old dragon gets to add feeling obsolete to the list of grudges against the new lean, mean, money-printing machine.


Not seen the model in person but from the website and other images the Stardrake looks good. Between the Drake and the Tauralon I don't see why they need another large monster when they both look like they can take this new bird quite easily.


Same reason why Repulsors and Gladiators exist for Space Marines.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 19:40:49


Post by: SamusDrake


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Same reason why Repulsors and Gladiators exist for Space Marines.


Goodness, do you reckon it might be a variant of those two models?


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 20:04:59


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


SamusDrake wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Same reason why Repulsors and Gladiators exist for Space Marines.


Goodness, do you reckon it might be a variant of those two models?


Do Mehreens really need BOTH the Repulsive and the Gladiator, in addition to the Predator? Also, the Repulsive and Gladiator are two different models, they just look similar because everything Primaris looks the same.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 20:09:30


Post by: kurhanik


I like it well enough, but dislike that it looks like no matter the build you go for, it is on the exact same tree, with the same corpse. I suppose I doubt people will be fielding 2 or 3 of these in an army, but even in the warcom video, it just looks like too similar. I'd honestly just rather it have both feet on the ground so that the player can decide how they want the model based, as the default is now "on a tree stump".


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 20:23:48


Post by: SamusDrake


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Same reason why Repulsors and Gladiators exist for Space Marines.


Goodness, do you reckon it might be a variant of those two models?


Do Mehreens really need BOTH the Repulsive and the Gladiator, in addition to the Predator? Also, the Repulsive and Gladiator are two different models, they just look similar because everything Primaris looks the same.


They do indeed have different sprues. I guess we learn something new everyday.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 20:26:16


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Same reason why Repulsors and Gladiators exist for Space Marines.


Goodness, do you reckon it might be a variant of those two models?


Do Mehreens really need BOTH the Repulsive and the Gladiator, in addition to the Predator? Also, the Repulsive and Gladiator are two different models, they just look similar because everything Primaris looks the same.


I was referring to the Repulsor as a replacement for the Land Raider, thankyouverymuch.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 20:31:14


Post by: SamusDrake


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

I was referring to the Repulsor as a replacement for the Land Raider, thankyouverymuch.


Oh my word, I didn't realise that was the intention for that model. It would be a crime against wargames if they phased out the legendary landraider for those things.



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 20:39:00


Post by: Sotahullu


Take that 40k smack talk to some other topic, thank you.


So anyway, I was expecting some avian type wyvern ('cause orcs and wyverns) but instead I got greeted by giant vulture and it actually looks cool. There is just so many options coming up for Kruelboyz and there is likely some thing we haven't seen yet.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 21:10:39


Post by: Cronch


i like the vulture, i dont like the massive helmet the warboss version got saddled with. I guess it'll just skip on the ground instead of flying..


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 21:41:48


Post by: Cataphract


Cronch wrote:
i like the vulture, i dont like the massive helmet the warboss version got saddled with. I guess it'll just skip on the ground instead of flying..


I think the helmet horns are a nod to the original Wyvern.




AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 22:40:10


Post by: CMLR


When you remember that vultures are dinosaurs and those guys are massive af.

I simply love 'em. The killaboss one is a big reference to the warbosses on wyverns.

It even looks a lot like a tauren druid in epic flying form.

I can't believe I am liking this models this much.

Only Lizards and Tau have had this level of appeal to me before, and I am barely able to balance both, I can't even...


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/19 22:43:53


Post by: SamusDrake


 Sotahullu wrote:
Take that 40k smack talk to some other topic, thank you.


Very well. Back to AoS it is.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 01:27:36


Post by: Waaagh_Gonads


Getting a very monster heavy vibe from the kruleboys.

Killaboss on gnashtoof - 1 kit
Leader riding a giant troll - 1 kit known
Skumdrekk and Sludgeraker Beast OR Snatchaboss on Sludgeraker Beast - 2 kits
Marshcrawla Sloggoth - 1 kit known
Gobsprakk and Corpse-rippa Vulcha, Killabeak OR Killaboss on Corpse-rippa Vulcha - 2 kits

So far for infantry units:
Hobgrots
Gutrippaz (2 armaments)
man skewer bolt boys



AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 05:16:11


Post by: CMLR


 Ghaz wrote:
Hmm. I wonder if you decide to build the Mouth of Mork will the kit provide the bitz to build the Killaboss on foot...


I hated that you couldn't really make Karl Franz and Amber Wizards on foot.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 05:20:23


Post by: drbored


I can only hope that the draconiths that have been teased and rumored are just as epic on the Stormcast side. I'm currently working on an all dracoth/dragon stormcast army and I need more!!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 07:09:42


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
Getting a very monster heavy vibe from the kruleboys.

Killaboss on gnashtoof - 1 kit
Leader riding a giant troll - 1 kit known
Skumdrekk and Sludgeraker Beast OR Snatchaboss on Sludgeraker Beast - 2 kits
Marshcrawla Sloggoth - 1 kit known
Gobsprakk and Corpse-rippa Vulcha, Killabeak OR Killaboss on Corpse-rippa Vulcha - 2 kits

So far for infantry units:
Hobgrots
Gutrippaz (2 armaments)
man skewer bolt boys

Well let's see:

Boss on mire troll
Boss on sludgeraker / Named boss on sludgeraker
Sloggoth
Boss on grumpy chicken / Named boss on grumpy chicken

Boss on gnashtooth (not a monster)
Boss on foot
Banner nob
Shaman
Gutripperz
Boltboyz
Hobgrots
Ballista


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 07:26:04


Post by: Geifer


 Ghaz wrote:
 Dryaktylus wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
I don't know. Want to see a 360 of the model.


It's in the video.

Spoiler:



Thanks guys! I much prefer the webstore feature to fiddling around with a video like that, but it's better than nothing.

SamusDrake wrote:
 Geifer wrote:


If new Sigmarines get their own dragon, chances are the cheap, fat, old dragon gets to add feeling obsolete to the list of grudges against the new lean, mean, money-printing machine.


Not seen the model in person but from the website and other images the Stardrake looks good. Between the Drake and the Tauralon I don't see why they need another large monster when they both look like they can take this new bird quite easily.


I've seen it in person and wasn't impressed. Just my opinion, of course, but while it's bigger and beefier than the old serpentine dragons and that's a direction I like, I didn't find the pose and specific details inspiring. For reference, I'd put down Skyrim dragons as my ideal aesthetic.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 07:39:27


Post by: SamusDrake


 Geifer wrote:


I've seen it in person and wasn't impressed. Just my opinion, of course, but while it's bigger and beefier than the old serpentine dragons and that's a direction I like, I didn't find the pose and specific details inspiring. For reference, I'd put down Skyrim dragons as my ideal aesthetic.


Ah, okay.

While I see little point in another stormcast monster, I'm still curious to see what they have on offer nonetheless. Would laugh if its a giant Gryph Hound!


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 07:55:48


Post by: Geifer


I mean, the point would be to give us a neat dragon with a rider with the new proportions, which is all the justification I need.

But yeah, Sigmarines are a pretty extensive range and don't necessarily need expansion. But they were bound to get it anyway and with the altered aesthetic we are basically starting from scratch, so it stands to reason that we'll eventually see every kind of unit made of new and improved models.

Giant Gryph-hound? Truth be told I think the little one that comes with the Silver Tower priest is the cutest one and I doubt going up in size actually helps the main selling point of Gryph-hounds. Just saying.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 08:08:55


Post by: SamusDrake


 Geifer wrote:

Giant Gryph-hound? Truth be told I think the little one that comes with the Silver Tower priest is the cutest one and I doubt going up in size actually helps the main selling point of Gryph-hounds. Just saying.


Yeah, the priest is yelling "Klaatu! Barada! Nikto!!!" and the gryph is all like "thats right people, what he said.".


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 09:49:27


Post by: Sarouan


Honestly, I'm expecting a new Stormcat Eternal riding dragon next monday.

The last Broken Realm story about seraphons having draconith eggs hatching in their space ships and "waiting for the right allies to go with" was a bit too obvious about that.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 10:37:49


Post by: stratigo


So, it's a bit weird to me that the kruleboy release is mostly monsters. Like I get that its the current push, but, feels a bit much.


AOS N&R (Skaven sprue p200, DARKOATH! p203, Leaked Images p209) @ 2021/07/20 10:42:21


Post by: Sotahullu


stratigo wrote:
So, it's a bit weird to me that the kruleboy release is mostly monsters. Like I get that its the current push, but, feels a bit much.


Which is why there is probaply more that hasn't been shown yet to round up infantry. Like grots!