The new Kruleboyz are very much a part of the Orruk Warclans, so if you want a mixed Orruk army – or already have one – you can easily add the greenskins from the new Dominion box into your Waaagh!
I honestly thought that's the worst model shown off so far. It looks worse than most of the rank and file infantry. Partially the pose (reminds me of squatting marines), and partly the bicycle pouch on his belly, and the excessive spikes on the helmet.
The orcs-
axes/sword battleline orcs (and command, which the Dominion warscroll is just missing)
crossbows- dedicated kit which is very good, since the sprue they're on in dominion is mixed with mounted boss.
Several monster/troll mounts
Interesting thing on the 'sloggoth,' the crew looks like 'normal' goblins?
The new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes are available to pre-order in August. A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear. And this is just the beginning – there’s a lot in store for the new edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar.
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Unlike Adam (seriously, just email the man a list of talking points before the show), the WarCom people apparently know things:
Both battletomes are pre-order in August.
Some manner of Chaos book will be October.
Can you keep a secret? We’ve heard whispers that there are even more new miniatures on the way for the Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans as well. We’ll let you know more as soon as we hear back from our infiltrator grots.
Clockpunk wrote: Damn, I was hoping we might just get a sneak peek at the rumoured 'chaos-worshippindg Duardin forgemasters'. Ah well.
Also, no new faction-specific terrain pieces or endless spells? The Kruelboyz have so much potetial for the latter!
They aren't done:
"Can you keep a secret? We’ve heard whispers that there are even more new miniatures on the way for the Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans as well. We’ll let you know more as soon as we hear back from our infiltrator grots."
The Stormcast archer used thumb draw, that's an improvement from GW designer, but the arrow placed on right side of the bow would still fall off, kinda weird considered the other archer model placed the arrow on the left side.
I think we've crossed into bizarro hobby world. The orcs, previously some of the most stylized misproportioned models, are getting a true scale style refresh whereas the sigmarines, previously somewhat proportionally correct, are getting theri weapons and accessories cranked up to JRPG levels. Interesting...
warboss wrote: I think we've crossed into bizarro hobby world. The orcs, previously some of the most stylized misproportioned models, are getting a true scale style refresh whereas the sigmarines, previously somewhat proportionally correct, are getting theri weapons and accessories cranked up to JRPG levels. Interesting...
What? This Stormcast are MUCH better proportionally correct than old chunky stormcast. And their weapons. I mean, just compare this new archers to old stormcast archers.
warboss wrote: I think we've crossed into bizarro hobby world. The orcs, previously some of the most stylized misproportioned models, are getting a true scale style refresh whereas the sigmarines, previously somewhat proportionally correct, are getting theri weapons and accessories cranked up to JRPG levels. Interesting...
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What?
Stormcasts finally look like humans for the most part, and not like armored Gorillas
And these Orks have itsy-bitsy little leggies
warboss wrote: I think we've crossed into bizarro hobby world. The orcs, previously some of the most stylized misproportioned models, are getting a true scale style refresh whereas the sigmarines, previously somewhat proportionally correct, are getting theri weapons and accessories cranked up to JRPG levels. Interesting...
Are you seriously arguing the model on the right is more proportional, more realistic and less ludicrous in terms of their getup compared to the one on the left.
For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.
warboss wrote: For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.
Spoiler:
They've always been like that, they just look larger because the men wielding them are no longer almost as wide as they are tall
Nice Multipart alternatives. I will skip the dominion annihilators now and go for these sweet multipart kit instead.
So overall a very nice update, still not keen on the orc at all( even the grots look a bit weird) but I will add the Bastian carthalos model to my list of must haves.
So far the new edition has added Annihilators multipart kit, Bastian and Yndrasta. Pretty happy with that.
big grandpa is cool, but someone tell the marine chaplain to stop cosplaying and get back to work.
The crocmonster is fine, the sloth-troll is horrid (good idea, but i'd have to toss holy water every 5 minutes on that thing if I kept it around, truly gross in a good way), everything else feels flat? I am not a fan of the bog orcs still.
Ooh thunderstorm on Dominion release day, best get on with those Stormcast
Liking pretty much everything that was shown, with the SC Vigilors and the Kruleboyz crocodile/sloth monster being my personal faves from each faction. I would have liked to have seen something about the new terrain though. And the Hammers of Sigmar getting yet another(admittedly very good looking) special character feels like a bit of overkill at this point. But minor gripes overall.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Anyone else hoping for updated Black Orcs? Pretty confident they’re the oldest Orc kit left in production.
The kit itself isn’t all that great, and they do look somewhat out of place due to the smoothness of their rumour.
Aka 'Ardboyz? Tbh, i kinda like them just because their armour just looks more... purpose-built, compared to other Ironjawz that just their armour just kinda roughly hammered into vaguely the shape it should be.
Given the choice between new Ardboyz and something new I can live with the current Ardboyz they look a lot better with unarmoured Brute heads and few spare Brute weapons and bits here and there. The Underworlds warband kept the overall look of the armour and just dropped the goofy helmets.
I'm not surprised in what we saw in terms of the armies covered. Indeed its fully what I expected - more units for both of the core armies in Dominus along with Battletomes for both. Anything else would have been a nice extra ,but I fully expect both those forces to dominate for the next month or two. After that I'd expect a 40K swingback and then a swing back to AoS with new Tomes for further armies.
Overread wrote: I'm not surprised in what we saw in terms of the armies covered. Indeed its fully what I expected - more units for both of the core armies in Dominus along with Battletomes for both. Anything else would have been a nice extra ,but I fully expect both those forces to dominate for the next month or two. After that I'd expect a 40K swingback and then a swing back to AoS with new Tomes for further armies.
Since they don't go on pre-order until August, it looks like July might be a 40K month.
Personally I'm fine with Ardboyz as they are, though I'd be cool with seeing more variants of them, especially in terms of heroes. I'd also like for Brutes to feel more like an elite unit instead of them directly competing against Ardboyz when it comes to their statlines.
I’m hoping the kruleboyz have a bit more to come because I’m pretty disappointed with them at the moment as there doesn’t much variety in army composition. One battleline isn’t enough, some archers would be good.
zanzibarthefirst wrote: I’m hoping the kruleboyz have a bit more to come because I’m pretty disappointed with them at the moment as there doesn’t much variety in army composition. One battleline isn’t enough, some archers would be good.
They’ve already got about as much as Ironjaws and Savage Orcs combined.
AduroT wrote: I would love a new Ard Boyz kit. Don’t care for how the current one doesn’t match the other Ironjaws’ less refined armor.
That's covered in the fluff. From page 31 of the Orruk Warclans battletome:
Though they are terrifyingly strong, Ardboys are not able to batter metal into shape with their fists as easily as Brutes. Because of this, they must scavenge or forge their own equipment – or bully others into doing it for them – a fact that accounts for the somewhat eclectic mixture of weapons found in their mobs
Liking most of the new orruks. Not sold on the bucket helmets and some of the short legs. Not always a problem just more obvious occasionally. Probably won’t be a problem once lined upon a table. But overall a very sinister army
I would love to see standard boar boyz back. Those are some great sculpts.
I hope the Kruleboyz can be run reasonably on their own. The other warclan units will look bizarre to me mixed with these. I think the Kruleboyz would look better mixed with gloom spite if going for a broader army.
Really cool models, especially the kruel boyz. Just a bit sad that orc gorillas seems to be going the way of the dodo. Call me weird, but I would have liked the kb a lot more if they were something else than orcs
I do kind of wish there was more separation between this release and the 40k orks.
Having both basically back to back is a bit too much green at once- it actually made me pick one or the other. (And I also think that Orks are going to be an unbalanced mess of uneven point costs)
Went to the Warhammer store today as I decided that I wanted to try and get a box afterall. Was pleasantly surprised to see that while stock was plentiful, a large portion of it had sold.
The box quality is great, the two armies look even better in person. I'm looking forward to sitting down this weekend and building everything, seeing how it all comes out. Loving the new orks, and I was quite excited to hear that the books are coming soon.
Overread wrote: They've still got that chariot with gryph chargers pulling it
You know what they say. Pics or it didn't happen.
Yeah, I know, no point rehashing models they've already shown. I had still hoped for more. Now don't get me wrong, if GW is intent on primarisizing Sigmarines after only six years I can appreciate getting the core choices done and out of the way. Nothing wrong with the infantry per se (except for the fatboys, I really don't like those), but so far the new style Sigmarines don't have an eye-catching big or centerpiece unit. Just loads and loads of infantry. Bit dull making an army of just that.
I wonder if they ever meant to show the new starter sets in this preview but held off because they still have Dominion boxes left to sell through before they want to advertise the followup product. Been interested in those.
Dysartes wrote: I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?
They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.
Overread wrote: They've still got that chariot with gryph chargers pulling it
You know what they say. Pics or it didn't happen.
Yeah, I know, no point rehashing models they've already shown. I had still hoped for more. Now don't get me wrong, if GW is intent on primarisizing Sigmarines after only six years I can appreciate getting the core choices done and out of the way. Nothing wrong with the infantry per se (except for the fatboys, I really don't like those), but so far the new style Sigmarines don't have an eye-catching big or centerpiece unit. Just loads and loads of infantry. Bit dull making an army of just that.
I wonder if they ever meant to show the new starter sets in this preview but held off because they still have Dominion boxes left to sell through before they want to advertise the followup product. Been interested in those.
Dysartes wrote: I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?
They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.
Yes, archers of late are not too much into shooting...
Blissbarb archers on foot have the same issue: most of them are running or posing, not actually shooting...
Dysartes wrote: I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?
They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.
You'd hope someone would point out to the daft pointy-ears that their stringing system really doesn't work, and makes them look even more stupid than normal.
Dysartes wrote: I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?
They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.
You'd hope someone would point out to the daft pointy-ears that their stringing system really doesn't work, and makes them look even more stupid than normal.
Dysartes wrote: I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?
They fell for elven propaganda and don't have faith that one-string bows can work.
You'd hope someone would point out to the daft pointy-ears that their stringing system really doesn't work, and makes them look even more stupid than normal.
Eh, if the race created by Teclis has magic woven into its bows to make them work I'm not complaining. My pet theory is the three-string thing started as an idea for how to keep the top string from breaking as soon as someone brushes their hand across the top of the mini.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: I think i like the Axe version of the Ork troops more, coupled with their helmets and round shields gives them kind of a vaguely Viking look.
Well, "viking"
Actual vikings didn't look much different then anyone around them.
warboss wrote: For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.
Spoiler:
My favorite part of this model is how mad the fact that it's a black dude is making some parts of the internet.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: I think i like the Axe version of the Ork troops more, coupled with their helmets and round shields gives them kind of a vaguely Viking look.
Well, "viking"
Actual vikings didn't look much different then anyone around them.
warboss wrote: For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.
Spoiler:
My favorite part of this model is how mad the fact that it's a black dude is making some parts of the internet.
What parts? I haven't seen a single person mad about him.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: I think i like the Axe version of the Ork troops more, coupled with their helmets and round shields gives them kind of a vaguely Viking look.
Well, "viking"
Actual vikings didn't look much different then anyone around them.
warboss wrote: For those surprised about my comment above regarding proportions, I would point out that I specifically referenced weapons and accessories. People seem to be missing that. The ones previewed below from the first page look ridiculously huge to me with axe and hammer heads almost the size of an armored chest. If that's no different than what came before in AOS then so be it but it still looks huge to me.
Spoiler:
My favorite part of this model is how mad the fact that it's a black dude is making some parts of the internet.
What parts? I haven't seen a single person mad about him.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: I think i like the Axe version of the Ork troops more, coupled with their helmets and round shields gives them kind of a vaguely Viking look.
Agreed, and I think it fits the raider aspect of their fluff in channeling that archetype.
They sound totally awesome, excited to see them. Also we have the Moth of Mork off to meet with the Fist of Gork, excited for the story prospects to boot.
Dysartes wrote: I'm a little confused by the SCE Archer unit we saw in that preview - how come so many are looking to stab their enemies, rather than shoot them?
Given that there are already multiple bow-armed Stormcast units, presumably the swords will help to differentiate them somewhat.
I really hate GWs Orcs/Orks/Orruks so I was initially hesitant about the Kruleboyz.
I frickin love them! I love them so much I actually pre-ordered Dominion. Haven't done that in a very long time.
Really like all the new Stormcast stuff too. I just wish they would drop the fascination with robes/dresses/"tabards" etc. Also the tactical detritus is a bit over the top on some of them.
Flying cavalry for the Kruleboyz is a bit of a surprise, but a welcome one to make them different to the rest of the greenskin factions, looking forward to seeing the models when they get released. Really liking the Kruleboyz so far, more so than anything else Orukk related.
NinthMusketeer wrote: They sound totally awesome, excited to see them. Also we have the Moth of Mork off to meet with the Fist of Gork, excited for the story prospects to boot.
The Moth of Mork was unfortunately somewhat distracted by the moon the Gloomspite Gits are trying to jump over...
You can sort of see one of the new mounts on the new battletome cover. There's a feather winged monster on the far right corner that definitely doesn't belong to Ironjawz, Gloomspite, or Bonesplittaz. I'm guessing all the unsolved vulture rumor engines will go to the Kruelboyz?
NinthMusketeer wrote: They sound totally awesome, excited to see them. Also we have the Moth of Mork off to meet with the Fist of Gork, excited for the story prospects to boot.
The Moth of Mork was unfortunately somewhat distracted by the moon the Gloomspite Gits are trying to jump over...
Isn't the Mouth of Mork the same Devouring Maw the Ogres worship?
NinthMusketeer wrote: They sound totally awesome, excited to see them. Also we have the Moth of Mork off to meet with the Fist of Gork, excited for the story prospects to boot.
Nicest looking sigmarine i've seen yet by a country mile. Amazing what such a simple modification can do. Quite tempted to get my own so good job there!
I came to this thread to find that out too - Sigmarine's look waaaay better with a standard helmet and a normal color scheme. I could see myself painting up some of those.
Stormcast, changing their heads for a bunch of normal, heavy knight helmets, and with really any other colour scheme than golden makes a "meh" army into the best heavy knight-warriors themed army out there.
Check out his instagram (the_convertorum). He has a couple in that style and they all look really great. Very Brettonian. Even the ones without special helmets are cool (I think he probably used some grey knight heads for the helmetless ones)
No great shock that the July collectors coin is a Stormcast Eternal one, the miniature of the month (both available from July 10th) is a unique(?) sculpt Vindicator with debris strewn base. Photo from the Coventry GW store Facebook page:
Galas wrote: Stormcast, changing their heads for a bunch of normal, heavy knight helmets, and with really any other colour scheme than golden makes a "meh" army into the best heavy knight-warriors themed army out there.
Was exactly thinking the same. When i first heard of them being kind of fantasy space marines, I was expecting them to look like this. Instead, we got the embodiment vulgarity
Overread wrote: The model being actually unique is a surprise!
I don't think its too surprising. I think they did something similar with Primaris, though I want to say it was a constant freebie at GW stores, not just a monthly model. The primaris wasn't super unique, but it did have a scenic base, much like this guy
Galas wrote: Stormcast, changing their heads for a bunch of normal, heavy knight helmets, and with really any other colour scheme than golden makes a "meh" army into the best heavy knight-warriors themed army out there.
Was exactly thinking the same. When i first heard of them being kind of fantasy space marines, I was expecting them to look like this. Instead, we got the embodiment vulgarity
I think Peculiar Companions did a Landschnekt knights patreon recently with .stl files. I may have to look it up and print some of those heads and finally paint some Stormcasts.
I think I actually prefer the wider Stormcast, for the kind of big beefy superhuman type aesthetic. The new ones look too much like regular dudes in shape.
AduroT wrote: I think I actually prefer the wider Stormcast, for the kind of big beefy superhuman type aesthetic. The new ones look too much like regular dudes in shape.
It certainly helps making Stormcasts look diffrent from Marines.
AduroT wrote: I think I actually prefer the wider Stormcast, for the kind of big beefy superhuman type aesthetic. The new ones look too much like regular dudes in shape.
maybe, but the new ones look like they can touch their toes.
I wonder if this year there will be a Prigmarines Battleforce.
I wouldn't be surprised to see one for the Kruleboyz.
I still wish for a Mega-Gargants Battleforce, comprising of a 2 models bundle.
On a different note, can somebody please tell me (via PM, should you wish, to avoid off-topics here) about traiding groups on Facebook and even Reddit that don't mind international shippings for oop products? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Random thought; I really like how the starter set provides full command options as options. The 10x Vindicators, for example, can do two 5-man units each with a champion, a 10-man with one champion, or be assembled all as regular dudes. The banners can also be assembled as regular dudes. It is just really dam convenient to be able to do that.
NinthMusketeer wrote: Random thought; I really like how the starter set provides full command options as options.
For Stormcast, sure. Meanwhile, the Boltboyz are missing their unit leader upgrades and the Gutrippaz are missing their musician and standard, all of which we either need to convert or wait for the retail boxes to upgrade.
Yeah, it certainly feels like the Kruleboyz got the short end, they only have one battleline unit compared to the 1-2 for the Stormcast, and its not even a complete unit in terms of command group, yet the Hobgrots get options for 2 full sets of command on the sprues.
For the options that are there though, full hobgrot command and gutrippaz leader, they can be assembled as either. Still an improvement over previous iterations. I also note that the gutrippaz and boltboyz are integrated sprues with other models, while the hobgrots have their own. I suspect they simply ran out of space.
I think the sprues are indicative of what we already partly know after last weeks AOS preview...Dominion just like Indomitus contains some units like the Hobgrots and Necron Warriors that will get released as is for the army. Meanwhile the Gutrippaz are getting an new multi part sprues like the chain sword and bolt pistol Primaris Marines in Indomitus did. So it makes sense to give the Hobgrots their full options and the Gutrippas less so.
Honestly the market is always so flooded with starter set units that I wish they'd not spend resources on tooling "multipart" (but barely so, lately) versions of the same models.
Great value for money, but not as good as the Dominion starter box. Which if you order now, you can still get with the Very Limited, Selling Fast set of commemorative coins!
Sarcasm aside, unless these are going to be very cheap, they look like no value for money at all.
Didn't care much for the larger Dominon set but the little Warrior edition fits the bill nicely. Exactly the Stormcasts I was hoping for and although not interested in the Kruleboyz models they are welcome nonetheless, so long as the set its roughly £32.50.
After the 40K recruit edition I was a bit worried they wouldn't include a printed copy of the core rules, so thats a nice surprise.
Can't wait to add the Knight-Arcanum to my current party for Heros of the Hinterlands, hopefully pairing them up with Neave Blacktalon should the local WH Smiths have that copy of Mortal Realms this week.
Not relevant to AoS but on the subject of paint sets I still can't fathom why there isn't a contrast paint set. They are aimed at beginners and speed painters, afterall...
Ghaz wrote: Looking at the paint set I'm a little surprised that they didn't use the new STC synthetic brushes for them.
It looks like the starter brush you got in Mortal realms and Conquest, they are hideous brushes good only for basing and really rough jobs. They are synthetic as well.
Ghaz wrote: Looking at the paint set I'm a little surprised that they didn't use the new STC synthetic brushes for them.
It looks like the starter brush you got in Mortal realms and Conquest, they are hideous brushes good only for basing and really rough jobs. They are synthetic as well.
I find that they make decent small drybrushes for details and then once they fray they are OK rough stipplers. Biggest issue I have with the starter brushes is that the handles are practically made of balsa wood and very easy to snap while cleaning a brush.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Now release that terrain separately damn it!!!
For 40k 3e that took another what, month to get the terrain boxes?
Command Edition Battlefield Expansion (board+scenery) was released at the same time as starter sets. Battlezone: Manufactorum: Vertigus (big set with another exclusive terrain piece) was released month and a half later.
Why would you think that Yndrasta would be on this?
I have to say that her head part is a fail; her back rod broke and now I might need some kind of pin because she just won't fit correctly.
I am surprised that the orc boss on mutant xoloitzcuintle (mexican "naked" dog breed, google it, they are just the same) is not included on the biggest kit.
CMLR wrote: Why would you be surprised that Yndrasta would be on this?
I have to say that her head part is a fail; her back rod broke and now I might need some kind of pin because she just won't fit correctly.
I am surprised that the orc boss on mutant xoloitzcuintle (mexican "naked" dog breed, google it, they are just the same) is not included on the biggest kit.
Seems like both fancy centerpiece models would be destined for individual box releases, so not in the starters.
Considering she is on the front cover of the main core book and clearly a center piece faction model - if not the face of 3rd Edition itself, it seems a bit naff that Yndrastra is stuck on one of those horrible, overpriced "court" sprues. Which is a shame as for Soul Wars we were treated to the wonderful Astreia Solbright for only £25...
I suppose one could take the current ETB Sequitor Prime( with a similar hair style ), a new Vindicator, wings and some left over Stormcast pieces and kitbash an alternative model for less?
CMLR wrote: I am surprised that the orc boss on mutant xoloitzcuintle (mexican "naked" dog breed, google it, they are just the same) is not included on the biggest kit.
Why? It's the exact same model as Indomitus. Small starter has least HQ model in it, medium starter has the medium HQ model, big starter is medium one + some terrain, while the big, heavy hitting HQ + elite minions sprue will be available separately for insane amounts of money. It's so copy paste I am surprised anyone didn't saw this coming.
Also, is small starter has sane price, it might become the most popular purchase of people wanting to bulk up new ork armies, 11 'big' bodies if you can find spare 40k ork heads somewhere
Cronch wrote: Great value for money, but not as good as the Dominion starter box.
Meh, nothing will beat 8th edition 40K/2nd edition AoS in this regard. I bought Tempest of Souls with Dominion and was shocked to see ToS being the same size (if thinner) for 1/3 of the money Dominion cost. Hell, the big starters both were the same size and cost like 60% of Dominion
CMLR wrote: I am surprised that the orc boss on mutant xoloitzcuintle (mexican "naked" dog breed, google it, they are just the same) is not included on the biggest kit.
Why? It's the exact same model as Indomitus. Small starter has least HQ model in it, medium starter has the medium HQ model, big starter is medium one + some terrain, while the big, heavy hitting HQ + elite minions sprue will be available separately for insane amounts of money. It's so copy paste I am surprised anyone didn't saw this coming.
Also, is small starter has sane price, it might become the most popular purchase of people wanting to bulk up new ork armies, 11 'big' bodies if you can find spare 40k ork heads somewhere
Cronch wrote: Great value for money, but not as good as the Dominion starter box.
Meh, nothing will beat 8th edition 40K/2nd edition AoS in this regard. I bought Tempest of Souls with Dominion and was shocked to see ToS being the same size (if thinner) for 1/3 of the money Dominion cost. Hell, the big starters both were the same size and cost like 60% of Dominion
That's not the apples to apples comparison. Soul Wars was the 2.0 flagship starter, the closest product to Dominon. Tempest of Souls was the mid-range offering, closer to the new "Harbinger" kit they just announced today.
Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.
Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.
Not in a hurry to buy anything, but the terrain in the big set speaks to me. And I like that the Sigmarine bodyguard unit is in the kit. Was worried it was going to be the fat guys.
NinthMusketeer wrote: Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.
Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.
I know raising prices is GW's favorite pastime, but I can't see this release that so predictably mirrors 40k's to come at higher prices. Not for starter sets.
Geifer wrote: Not in a hurry to buy anything, but the terrain in the big set speaks to me. And I like that the Sigmarine bodyguard unit is in the kit. Was worried it was going to be the fat guys.
NinthMusketeer wrote: Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.
Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.
I know raising prices is GW's favorite pastime, but I can't see this release that so predictably mirrors 40k's to come at higher prices. Not for starter sets.
From sprue distribution it was easy to see fat guys, banner and yndrasta will be separate 70-80 pound sprue ala necron/marine in indomitus
No doubt, but I wasn't so invested in the release to follow it that closely. Big box with big price tag that only has two models I like was a quick write off to me.
Geifer wrote: Not in a hurry to buy anything, but the terrain in the big set speaks to me. And I like that the Sigmarine bodyguard unit is in the kit. Was worried it was going to be the fat guys.
NinthMusketeer wrote: Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.
Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.
I know raising prices is GW's favorite pastime, but I can't see this release that so predictably mirrors 40k's to come at higher prices. Not for starter sets.
From sprue distribution it was easy to see fat guys, banner and yndrasta will be separate 70-80 pound sprue ala necron/marine in indomitus
Geifer wrote: Not in a hurry to buy anything, but the terrain in the big set speaks to me. And I like that the Sigmarine bodyguard unit is in the kit. Was worried it was going to be the fat guys.
NinthMusketeer wrote: Starter sets look like what I expected. Glad to see the three-level system is continuing; I think that is a great way to offer multiple price points. Also glad to see a full fold-out plus terrain in the large one. I personally prefer that to straight miniatures as it better represents the complete package of what Warhammer is.
Thumbs up from me unless they screw us over with the prices.
I know raising prices is GW's favorite pastime, but I can't see this release that so predictably mirrors 40k's to come at higher prices. Not for starter sets.
From sprue distribution it was easy to see fat guys, banner and yndrasta will be separate 70-80 pound sprue ala necron/marine in indomitus
80? Try 110.
Necron sprue 68,marine 89. There's limit even my pessimism.
The caveat being that following their advice one will lose (lol that SGL list). But it is likely to be an enjoyable experience anyways and maybe that is the point they are trying to make.
GW has never really, in all its years, been serious about the competitive side. The fact that their core rules changes every edition suggests they take much more of a "dnd" style approach toward rules instead of the Magic the Gathering approach.
Overread wrote: GW has never really, in all its years, been serious about the competitive side. The fact that their core rules changes every edition suggests they take much more of a "dnd" style approach toward rules instead of the Magic the Gathering approach.
Reason why MTG works this way is because they sell cards, not rules. They have only value with a game - unlike miniatures you can just buy for the pleasure of building / painting them. That's why all the rules are "free" with their decks.
Also, the turnover between each edition in MTG is way faster than GW. You would lose your players if your core rules changed as often.
8th was 2017 so 3 years. Still only one 2 year period for 40k but the time between editions is certainly shrinking. For AoS it has been three years between each: 2015, 2018, and 2021. I'd be happy with at least four years between editions but doubt that is going to happen.
8th was 2017 so 3 years. Still only one 2 year period for 40k but the time between editions is certainly shrinking. For AoS it has been three years between each: 2015, 2018, and 2021. I'd be happy with at least four years between editions but doubt that is going to happen.
If 6th was released in 2012 and 7th in 2014, thats 2 years and not 4.
Overread wrote: It is marked as 2 years - its 4 years from 2008 to 2012
Which doesn't fit with Rogue Trader entry. Rogue Trader was released in 1987 and was replaced by 2nd edition in 1993 for a six year lifespan.
Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition Rulebook 6th 2012 4 Yr
So the 6th edition entry should be when 6th was released in 2012 and was replaced by 7th edition in 2014 for a two year lifespan. not a four year lifespan. Each entry should be Edition/Release Date/Lifespan, but it changes at the end of the list.
Well now I can only see the odd shift but it still doesn't change the years between editions. I wonder if it wasn't supposed to have anything after 7th edition and what was at 6th should have been the 2 so something like this:
Overread wrote: GW has never really, in all its years, been serious about the competitive side. The fact that their core rules changes every edition suggests they take much more of a "dnd" style approach toward rules instead of the Magic the Gathering approach.
Reason why MTG works this way is because they sell cards, not rules. They have only value with a game - unlike miniatures you can just buy for the pleasure of building / painting them. That's why all the rules are "free" with their decks.
Also, the turnover between each edition in MTG is way faster than GW. You would lose your players if your core rules changed as often.
And gw sells miniatures. With goal of changing rules all the time that people change armies chasing best list thinking they are cunning figuring out the obvious list.
For gw rules are just way to get people buy models
Overread wrote: GW has never really, in all its years, been serious about the competitive side. The fact that their core rules changes every edition suggests they take much more of a "dnd" style approach toward rules instead of the Magic the Gathering approach.
Reason why MTG works this way is because they sell cards, not rules. They have only value with a game - unlike miniatures you can just buy for the pleasure of building / painting them. That's why all the rules are "free" with their decks.
Also, the turnover between each edition in MTG is way faster than GW. You would lose your players if your core rules changed as often.
And gw sells miniatures. With goal of changing rules all the time that people change armies chasing best list thinking they are cunning figuring out the obvious list.
For gw rules are just way to get people buy models
I don't think rephrasing the statement "a business exists to make money" is effectively delivering whatever point you are trying to make. Like yeah, we know. That's what businesses do.
KidCthulhu wrote: Wake me when the hobgrots are available separate. That's the only unit that really grabs me.
Very cool models, literally worthless rules. You'll auto lose from brining them unless the codex adds some support rules or revisions. They're below dumpster trash.
streetsamurai wrote: Can't wait to see the chaos dwarves. these hobgobs makes me pretty sure they are coming soon
GW has confirmed a Chaos battletome in October, but would GW released another new faction so close after the Kruleboys (who are technically a part of an existing faction)? One can only hope...
The new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes are available to pre-order in August. A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear.
streetsamurai wrote: Can't wait to see the chaos dwarves. these hobgobs makes me pretty sure they are coming soon
GW has confirmed a Chaos battletome in October, but would GW released another new faction so close after the Kruleboys (who are technically a part of an existing faction)? One can only hope...
The new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes are available to pre-order in August. A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear.
Wouldn't surprised me. The main thing i like about AoS is that they release new factions continuously
KidCthulhu wrote: Wake me when the hobgrots are available separate. That's the only unit that really grabs me.
Very cool models, literally worthless rules. You'll auto lose from brining them unless the codex adds some support rules or revisions. They're below dumpster trash.
Objectively false; there is a large number of roles they can serve on the battlefield. From chaff to ranged support to reserve blocking to objective campers. They aren't good at any of those roles because they are over costed for their stats, but to call them "literally worthless" is to be literally wrong.
streetsamurai wrote: Can't wait to see the chaos dwarves. these hobgobs makes me pretty sure they are coming soon
GW has confirmed a Chaos battletome in October, but would GW released another new faction so close after the Kruleboys (who are technically a part of an existing faction)? One can only hope...
The new Orruk Warclans and Stormcast Eternals battletomes are available to pre-order in August. A third battletome will follow these in October – something a little more Chaos-flavoured, we hear.
I'm betting Beasts of Chaos. They need it, they fit the Ghur theme, it makes sense.
DaveC wrote: Ardboys have been reboxed for 3rd so they aren’t changing anytime soon
The best thing about this set of edition cycles has been the move towards presenting the painted models in situ on the box. I'm still bothered by the weird, overhanging "R" on the new 40K logo, and don't love the red framing for the new AoS livery, but the overall gestalt is pretty awesome. Looking forward to when the whole line is refreshed – will make the stores look like codex/battletome pages!
Dysartes wrote: Interesting that the terrain set doesn't feature the domed structure from the Extremis (top-tier) starter, but has a second statue instead.
Yeah, that surprised me. I am hoping they release a second set similar to “ Battlezone: Manufactorum – Vertigus” with all the contents and some extra bits.
Dysartes wrote: Interesting that the terrain set doesn't feature the domed structure from the Extremis (top-tier) starter, but has a second statue instead.
Yeah, that surprised me. I am hoping they release a second set similar to “ Battlezone: Manufactorum – Vertigus” with all the contents and some extra bits.
Well does do turn up later at some point. Maybe with few extra pieces.
But I suspect that the separate terrain set coming now is thought for expanding from Extremis set when you move to bigger games.
Dysartes wrote: Interesting that the terrain set doesn't feature the domed structure from the Extremis (top-tier) starter, but has a second statue instead.
Yeah, that surprised me. I am hoping they release a second set similar to “ Battlezone: Manufactorum – Vertigus” with all the contents and some extra bits.
Well does do turn up later at some point. Maybe with few extra pieces.
But I suspect that the separate terrain set coming now is thought for expanding from Extremis set when you move to bigger games.
That might be the case, and for the walls that's fine, but I can't see why three statues with one dome is a better expansion than two of each.
I was looking forward to buy new Age of Sigmar scenery but lack of dome means that I will wait for bigger set instead (if there is such thing). As a terrain collector I want one of everything.
Penumbral Engine becoming available separetely is positive news. Previously it has only been available in overpriced Forbidden Power set and big Dominion of Sigmar bundle I can't remember the name of.
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
Sotahullu wrote: I have a really strong suspicion that we are getting proper grot units with Kruleboyz. Not hobgrots, just grots.
So far it seems like the closest Grot unit so far are the ones on the Swamp Troggoth. With minor mention for the ones helping on the Ballista.
That is it really. I would find it so damn bizarre that there is grots as artillery(?) crew, gladiator sidekick and riding (rather unlucky) troll but not as infantry.
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.
Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
I feel it is relevant to point out that labeling things as 'anti-X' on speculation isn't really worth the effort; units rarely boil down to such simple roles and GWs writing is such that even when intended the reality can be wildly mismatched. Like Yndrasta, the 'monster hunter' with rules that make her a strong support & defensive hero.
DaveC wrote: Ardboys have been reboxed for 3rd so they aren’t changing anytime soon
The best thing about this set of edition cycles has been the move towards presenting the painted models in situ on the box. I'm still bothered by the weird, overhanging "R" on the new 40K logo, and don't love the red framing for the new AoS livery, but the overall gestalt is pretty awesome. Looking forward to when the whole line is refreshed – will make the stores look like codex/battletome pages!
I also love the new box art, both 40k and fantasy side. Miss the old art days but understand the commercial realities of showing the miniatures. This is a great comprose that makes shelves look cooler.
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.
Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
At the ruined castle’s top was what a flock of what Krugrump first took to be birds of prey, but then realised, given the scale of the fortress on which they were perched, were monstrous wyvern-like vultures big enough to carry a grunta in their talons. Each had a greenskin rider atop it. One of the riders, a hunched figure with four banners on its trophy rack, had taken a position higher than the others, and was gesticulating wildly as he held court.
There's a flock of them, and each have a greenskin on their back. There's one with four banners which is Gobsprakk, presumably.
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.
Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.
Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?
Does Alarielle on her Wardroth beetle count? Oh what I wouldn't give to see a generic version of that.
But to your point, that's the only one I can think of off of the top of my head.
Waldroth beetle and Teclis' thing are more magical, one-off creatures though. Not saying they couldn't make a ton of Walroth's, but they do mention multiple Corpse-Rippas in the story.
Gordrakk, the Fist of Gork, also has a generic megaboss option in the set. His Mawkrusha has a metal facemask, but that's about it
And here's where he was referring to:
At the ruined castle’s top was what a flock of what Krugrump first took to be birds of prey, but then realised, given the scale of the fortress on which they were perched, were monstrous wyvern-like vultures big enough to carry a grunta in their talons. Each had a greenskin rider atop it. One of the riders, a hunched figure with four banners on its trophy rack, had taken a position higher than the others, and was gesticulating wildly as he held court
Aeneades wrote: Yeah, that surprised me. I am hoping they release a second set similar to “ Battlezone: Manufactorum – Vertigus” with all the contents and some extra bits.
That's why I'm waiting.
Jumped at two of the first 9th Ed terrain boxes and then they released Vertigus. Not making that mistake this time.
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
Iron jaws have big monster with generic and unique variant in box.
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.
Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.
Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?
Alarielle, Archaon, Teclis.
All three being gods (or more or less) and being characters from the Old World.
I’d say Gobsprakk is generic enough that they would make his box a dual kit similar to Gordrakk.
The Maw-krusha is the only large monster in a pure Ironjawz army. Kruleboyz will have the Mirebrute Troggoth, Sludgeraker Beast and Marshcrawla Sloggoth as large monsters in a pure Kruleboyz army. I will not be surprised if the Gobsprakk kit is not a dual unit kit.
Cataphract wrote: Thought I would go over what we have seen and what speculation I've seen over the last few weeks for the Kurleboyz roster.
Heroes - Mounted Unconfirmed
Shaman on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Wizard (Non-Special version of Gobsprakk)
Killaboss on Corpserippa - Monster Mount, Flying Hero (Non-Special version of Gobspreakk)
I would expect a centerpiece model like the Mouth of Mork to be unique, so I would be mildly surprised if the kit makes any units other than Gobsprakk.
From the “Kunnin” story which Gobsprakk appears it shows him holding “court” with other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippaz. That was my main reason why I think it’s hinted it will be a multi-kit.
Yes, I've read 'Kunnin'', but I don't see where it mentions other Orruks mounted on Corpse-rippas.
How often does GW release a ridden monster without a generic option though?
Wow, I assumed he was lost forever. Good that he's being released.
Someone on reddit pointed out a while ago that he may be a Stormcaste-ed Excelsior warpriest from silver tower. I wish that it was meant to be a homage, but the book and scrolls are different.
Shaman is a bit lost with the banners and little details but the boy is quite nice (except fro the sucking lemons head).
Vulture is wicked and would be so cool on a undead army.
I don't know. Want to see a 360 of the model. There's something strange about the bird. Could be cool, but I find it hard to tell. The paint job isn't helping.
If we were the Stormcast Eternals, we’d be hoping to hear about something strong enough to take down Gobsprakk right about now.
The Stardrakes are insulted...
If new Sigmarines get their own dragon, chances are the cheap, fat, old dragon gets to add feeling obsolete to the list of grudges against the new lean, mean, money-printing machine.
What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.
GaroRobe wrote: What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.
Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.
GaroRobe wrote: What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.
Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.
Yeah, that's the one. Dacian was set to debut years back, but maybe Covid messed that up? Glad that people who like him have the chance to pick him up.
I stared at the Vulcha too long and now I like it. I wonder if it would work well with an ogor on his back...? Or maybe ridden by one of those chaos people that flay themselves.
GW has always had a long love of putting high backed armchairs on big monsters. I don't know why its about the only asthetic they've had in the years that I've never liked. This one isn't too bad though at least its not stupidly high as osme of those elf ones; and its mostly banners rather than wide wood; but still darn it GW stop with the armchairs
Otherwise awesome looking model. I'm loving seeing GW giving orruks and orks something new and fresh that isn't justa reshash of what they had before
GaroRobe wrote: What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.
Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.
Pretty sure that Dacian was going to be a Store Opening model alongside of Ripper Jackson.
GaroRobe wrote: What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.
Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.
Pretty sure that Dacian was going to be a Store Opening model alongside of Ripper Jackson.
They previewed Dacian two and a half months before they announced Ripper as a Store Opening model so I don't see why Dacian wasn't mentioned in the same article alongside her if he was meant to be a Store Opening model. Was there any other events in 2020 that were canceled that would have normally had an exclusive model (e.g., Warhammer Fest) that were not revealed?
GaroRobe wrote: What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.
Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.
Pretty sure that Dacian was going to be a Store Opening model alongside of Ripper Jackson.
They previewed Dacian two and a half months before they announced Ripper as a Store Opening model so I don't see why Dacian wasn't mentioned in the same article alongside her if he was meant to be a Store Opening model. Was there any other events in 2020 that were canceled that would have normally had an exclusive model (e.g., Warhammer Fest) that were not revealed?
No, but the "reset" for Store Opening models or Store Anniversary models is in July/August.
I can't tell if Gobsprakk's ears are his own. They seem a bit odd and I wouldn't put it past him to nail a powerful wizard's ears to his head so he can listen to Mork better
GaroRobe wrote: What happened to the Exalted Chaos Champion? The Stormcast was meant to be released forever ago, but I thought the necron lord and chaos champion debuted at the same time. I guess I'll save money, since I only want one of the two made-to-order models.
Do you mean Helga Clovenhorn who was an exclusive model for opening of the Warhammer Store & Café in Los Angeles? I guess they made the decision to release Dacian Anvil (who I can't find when or if he was previously released) and Hasmoteph the Resplendent instead.
If new Sigmarines get their own dragon, chances are the cheap, fat, old dragon gets to add feeling obsolete to the list of grudges against the new lean, mean, money-printing machine.
Not seen the model in person but from the website and other images the Stardrake looks good. Between the Drake and the Tauralon I don't see why they need another large monster when they both look like they can take this new bird quite easily.
If new Sigmarines get their own dragon, chances are the cheap, fat, old dragon gets to add feeling obsolete to the list of grudges against the new lean, mean, money-printing machine.
Not seen the model in person but from the website and other images the Stardrake looks good. Between the Drake and the Tauralon I don't see why they need another large monster when they both look like they can take this new bird quite easily.
Same reason why Repulsors and Gladiators exist for Space Marines.
Same reason why Repulsors and Gladiators exist for Space Marines.
Goodness, do you reckon it might be a variant of those two models?
Do Mehreens really need BOTH the Repulsive and the Gladiator, in addition to the Predator? Also, the Repulsive and Gladiator are two different models, they just look similar because everything Primaris looks the same.
I like it well enough, but dislike that it looks like no matter the build you go for, it is on the exact same tree, with the same corpse. I suppose I doubt people will be fielding 2 or 3 of these in an army, but even in the warcom video, it just looks like too similar. I'd honestly just rather it have both feet on the ground so that the player can decide how they want the model based, as the default is now "on a tree stump".
Same reason why Repulsors and Gladiators exist for Space Marines.
Goodness, do you reckon it might be a variant of those two models?
Do Mehreens really need BOTH the Repulsive and the Gladiator, in addition to the Predator? Also, the Repulsive and Gladiator are two different models, they just look similar because everything Primaris looks the same.
They do indeed have different sprues. I guess we learn something new everyday.
Same reason why Repulsors and Gladiators exist for Space Marines.
Goodness, do you reckon it might be a variant of those two models?
Do Mehreens really need BOTH the Repulsive and the Gladiator, in addition to the Predator? Also, the Repulsive and Gladiator are two different models, they just look similar because everything Primaris looks the same.
I was referring to the Repulsor as a replacement for the Land Raider, thankyouverymuch.
I was referring to the Repulsor as a replacement for the Land Raider, thankyouverymuch.
Oh my word, I didn't realise that was the intention for that model. It would be a crime against wargames if they phased out the legendary landraider for those things.
Take that 40k smack talk to some other topic, thank you.
So anyway, I was expecting some avian type wyvern ('cause orcs and wyverns) but instead I got greeted by giant vulture and it actually looks cool. There is just so many options coming up for Kruelboyz and there is likely some thing we haven't seen yet.
Cronch wrote: i like the vulture, i dont like the massive helmet the warboss version got saddled with. I guess it'll just skip on the ground instead of flying..
I think the helmet horns are a nod to the original Wyvern.
Getting a very monster heavy vibe from the kruleboys.
Killaboss on gnashtoof - 1 kit
Leader riding a giant troll - 1 kit known
Skumdrekk and Sludgeraker Beast OR Snatchaboss on Sludgeraker Beast - 2 kits
Marshcrawla Sloggoth - 1 kit known
Gobsprakk and Corpse-rippa Vulcha, Killabeak OR Killaboss on Corpse-rippa Vulcha - 2 kits
So far for infantry units:
Hobgrots
Gutrippaz (2 armaments)
man skewer bolt boys
I can only hope that the draconiths that have been teased and rumored are just as epic on the Stormcast side. I'm currently working on an all dracoth/dragon stormcast army and I need more!!
Killaboss on gnashtoof - 1 kit
Leader riding a giant troll - 1 kit known
Skumdrekk and Sludgeraker Beast OR Snatchaboss on Sludgeraker Beast - 2 kits
Marshcrawla Sloggoth - 1 kit known
Gobsprakk and Corpse-rippa Vulcha, Killabeak OR Killaboss on Corpse-rippa Vulcha - 2 kits
So far for infantry units:
Hobgrots
Gutrippaz (2 armaments)
man skewer bolt boys
Well let's see:
Boss on mire troll
Boss on sludgeraker / Named boss on sludgeraker
Sloggoth
Boss on grumpy chicken / Named boss on grumpy chicken
Boss on gnashtooth (not a monster)
Boss on foot
Banner nob
Shaman
Gutripperz
Boltboyz
Hobgrots
Ballista
If new Sigmarines get their own dragon, chances are the cheap, fat, old dragon gets to add feeling obsolete to the list of grudges against the new lean, mean, money-printing machine.
Not seen the model in person but from the website and other images the Stardrake looks good. Between the Drake and the Tauralon I don't see why they need another large monster when they both look like they can take this new bird quite easily.
I've seen it in person and wasn't impressed. Just my opinion, of course, but while it's bigger and beefier than the old serpentine dragons and that's a direction I like, I didn't find the pose and specific details inspiring. For reference, I'd put down Skyrim dragons as my ideal aesthetic.
I've seen it in person and wasn't impressed. Just my opinion, of course, but while it's bigger and beefier than the old serpentine dragons and that's a direction I like, I didn't find the pose and specific details inspiring. For reference, I'd put down Skyrim dragons as my ideal aesthetic.
Ah, okay.
While I see little point in another stormcast monster, I'm still curious to see what they have on offer nonetheless. Would laugh if its a giant Gryph Hound!
I mean, the point would be to give us a neat dragon with a rider with the new proportions, which is all the justification I need.
But yeah, Sigmarines are a pretty extensive range and don't necessarily need expansion. But they were bound to get it anyway and with the altered aesthetic we are basically starting from scratch, so it stands to reason that we'll eventually see every kind of unit made of new and improved models.
Giant Gryph-hound? Truth be told I think the little one that comes with the Silver Tower priest is the cutest one and I doubt going up in size actually helps the main selling point of Gryph-hounds. Just saying.
Giant Gryph-hound? Truth be told I think the little one that comes with the Silver Tower priest is the cutest one and I doubt going up in size actually helps the main selling point of Gryph-hounds. Just saying.
Yeah, the priest is yelling "Klaatu! Barada! Nikto!!!" and the gryph is all like "thats right people, what he said.".
Honestly, I'm expecting a new Stormcat Eternal riding dragon next monday.
The last Broken Realm story about seraphons having draconith eggs hatching in their space ships and "waiting for the right allies to go with" was a bit too obvious about that.