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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/07 18:13:33


Post by: lord_blackfang



We've got a mission for you, soldier!
Rampart Third Edition will land on Kickstarter this Fall! Before we will jump into the new battlefield, let's talk out the objective. We've created a pre-campaign survey to collect your feedback on the previous and the upcoming edition.


For the first time, Rampart will include a complete modular battlefield! Inside our survey, you'll find an exclusive first look at the concepts of new Wall Themes. Choose settings perfect for your squad, find cover and play the objective! Take a step on "Military Base" or explore the area with "Sacred Grounds" floor tiles. The choice is yours, soldier. We're counting on you!

Click the link down below to fill out the survey. Your responses will help us to create the most immersive and functional wargaming terrain.
Many thanks, and see you at another briefing!


https://archon-studio.com/content/rampart-third-edition-prelaunch-survey





Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/07 18:49:49


Post by: DaveC


Temple of the Damned is of most interest to me so long as they keep it neutral enough in design to work in both fantasy and sci-fi settings

They are also planning 5 inch x 5 inch tiles - I guess this is the size limit of their tooling machines.






Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/07 18:51:57


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Sad there's not a Kazmi extension, but I guess they may have decided D&L is fantasy and Rampart is SF etc


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/07 19:25:15


Post by: lord_blackfang


I'm most interested in the wasteland/ork fort, I'd get oodles of that. The rest is just... more stuff for my terrain addiction, but not really exciting.

5" tiles sound awkward, but if they want to service both classic and nu-GW table sizes there's no good tile size anyway, might as well do whatever is easiest to manufacture and we'll have to fudge an inch up or down in any case. But even at Archon prices, I doubt a table's worth of tiles will be an interesting purchase for many. Maybe just enough for a Kill Team board.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/13 05:27:16


Post by: ced1106


I asked for 6" tiles. Many gaming tables are in square feet.

Wasteland's great for post-apoc wargaming, and the cathedrals look good for fantasy wargaming (eg. Frostgrave).

Archon's going to throw in a bunch of SG's, I'm sure. From the survey, they may even have some miniatures, like they did with Dungeons and Lasers. Gonna guess the mini's are from their Starcide line...


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/13 08:31:04


Post by: DaveC


 ced1106 wrote:
I asked for 6" tiles. Many gaming tables are in square feet.


6” tiles can’t happen with their current machines the maximum usable width with their current sprues is 5”. Each 5”x5” tile is 1 sprue. The max length is 9.5” so they can’t even get 2 tiles on one sprue. I’d prefer 6” tiles too but they are limited unless they buy new machines and I dont think the KS would justify the cost.

With the new Ork stuff the wasteland set might be popular.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/13 09:02:31


Post by: lord_blackfang


Maybe they could do 8x8 tiles in two halves then, that'd hit most of the relevant table sizes.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/13 13:15:21


Post by: Lucas Blackwolf


Did my postapocalyptic duty; a serious shortage of that sort of terrain in the n+1 fantasy villages ...


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/15 02:16:39


Post by: timd


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Maybe they could do 8x8 tiles in two halves then, that'd hit most of the relevant table sizes.


Just measured the larger sprues and a 4" x 8" size tile will fit in it easily, with some room for stretch goal pieces. This would be a MUCH better size
Have added a 4" x 8" comment in the comment box at the bottom of the online poll. If you think this is a good idea, please add it when you fill out the poll!

Also added that a sci-fi townspeople set would be awesome

T


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/07/15 12:17:07


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


I am only really interested in Kazuni Temple terrain and miniatures so filled out the survey accordingly. However, generic sci-fi civilians might be interesting depending on the aesthetic. I use Battle Systems terrain for my sci-fi gaming but interesting minis might work with my Core Space game.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/08/12 20:46:52


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured




Have an impact on the project!
Another edition is coming! This mission requires a lot of intel. That's why we want you to give us your feedback on these concept arts. What do you like about it here? Any ideas that you want us to implement? Which of these two styles (default, detailed) do you find attractive for your tabletop setting? Which universe fits perfectly with this design? What are you going to play?

It's the perfect time to make your impact on this project. Join the discussion, invite your friends, and help us create the best wargaming terrain on the market!
Rampart Third Edition will land this Fall on Kickstarter! Stay tuned for more details!

https://archon-studio.us16.list-manage.com/track/click?u=da8aa21735a0c6a2565062d9e&id=7cb1b01559&e=7b25858fb3


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/08/13 10:55:10


Post by: DaveC


KS in October



I'd prefer the plain city tiles with optional bits to add to them rather than molded on details. Also if Archon is reading needs a chain link fence please.

New Instagram account for Rampart - https://www.instagram.com/rampart_terrain/


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/08/13 11:38:20


Post by: The_Real_Chris


Chain link fences though are incredibly easy to make...


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/25 20:24:13


Post by: DaveC


First renders for the ruined city

https://archon-studio.com/blog/rampart3



They've redesigned the floors



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/25 20:40:08


Post by: sh4mike


What are the principal differences between their Rampart and Dungeons&Lasers lines?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/25 20:45:33


Post by: lord_blackfang


sh4mike wrote:
What are the principal differences between their Rampart and Dungeons&Lasers lines?


Rampart is free-standing buildings for wargaming, D&L is dungeon interiors for roleplaying. If you want to be slightly philosophical with Rampart the gameplay happens on the outside of the pieces and with D&L on the inside. The lines aren't physically compatible.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/25 20:50:22


Post by: sh4mike


Thank you, Blackfang. Appears I should have gone w/ Rampart rather than D&L3 for my cheap tabletop skirmish set-ups. Will sell off the D&L tiled terrain but keep its scatter and minis.

Looking forward to the KS in November.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/25 21:27:21


Post by: Orlanth


My reply:

More variety of basic walls, the last thing you want is excessive copypasta. This is doubly so with non generic pieces like Wasteland Outpost, there is a practical limit to how many times you can use the same wall if it has lots of detail. So cut down on the detail of the walls and increase the number of things you can glue to them. So for Wasteland outpost have several walls made of corrugated steel but without5 extra panelling, Then add several sheets of corrugated panel of all sizes that you can glue to the individual pieces to make them all different.
As a general rule the more specific the detail the less it should be repeated, it should not be molded on, and need not be a plug in, it is Ok to glue on the rarer details yourself and leave the plug spaces for regular details like lighting and supports.

Finally leave the goblins off the sprue, and if you make only a single tree trunk don't bury a skeleton in it, seated women don't use skeletons as cushions and not every mirror needs a ghost or snake coming out of it. Not every bed needs teeth (you eventually learned that one). Cut the weird stuff from the extras, add useful stuff you would expect to see a lot of, and get the scale right. Stop repeating the same gak , one nuke was fine, we don't need more. Statues are ok, but why must they have weird shapes for heads. etc etc


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/25 22:01:58


Post by: lord_blackfang


Actually I'm getting the feeling this will be a modest campaign and we won't see new themes besides the concrete walls. Since that initial 6 or so theme reveal we've seen nothing of any theme but concrete.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/25 23:12:54


Post by: insaniak


 DaveC wrote:
First renders for the ruined city

https://archon-studio.com/blog/rampart3


This really needs some filler pieces to cover over the plug holes on the corners and the gap between floors on the outsides of the walls. But otherwise looks fantastic.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/25 23:36:24


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Good to see they chose "Ruined City" as the theme. It's pretty rare, as far as terrain goes. Not many places out there making that kind of terrain.




Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/25 23:52:25


Post by: Voss


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Good to see they chose "Ruined City" as the theme. It's pretty rare, as far as terrain goes. Not many places out there making that kind of terrain.




You need some water, there? You sound a little dry.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/26 00:15:44


Post by: NH Gunsmith


I picked up a couple boxes of the Kazumi jungle temple sets. Honestly greatly impressed with the wall portion of the terrain sets, but not the biggest fan of how the floors mount.

The floors on those sets being mounted to the walls by hangars that go into the wall column/joint sections is indeed really restrictive for building towers, or mostly enclosed buildings.

These new fairly generic looking urban building seem to solve that issue, but really don't fit into what it was that I wanted to the jungle temple for.

Thankfully I was/am building wooden catwalks for use in multi-level games of Warcry/Mordheim/Legion... so will be pinning wooden floors to the jungle temple walls to match the catwalks I am making.

Still find great value in the sets for what I paid at the late backer pledge, but probably would have been disappointed in them at full retail.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/26 01:37:42


Post by: Miguelsan


I was wondering today about the KS and voila Dakka has my back!

I'm not very interested in the new walls but probably I'll join to get a Kazumi set and the extras.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/26 04:25:09


Post by: Orlanth


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Actually I'm getting the feeling this will be a modest campaign and we won't see new themes besides the concrete walls. Since that initial 6 or so theme reveal we've seen nothing of any theme but concrete.


Guess again, we turn up for a few sprues of walls and end up with an extra five sprues of bitz on top of the walls we asked for. And a tank. And some random stuff. And buy in options from previous Kickstarters.
Archon doesn't do 'light on content'.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/26 09:45:51


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Orlanth wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Actually I'm getting the feeling this will be a modest campaign and we won't see new themes besides the concrete walls. Since that initial 6 or so theme reveal we've seen nothing of any theme but concrete.


Guess again, we turn up for a few sprues of walls and end up with an extra five sprues of bitz on top of the walls we asked for. And a tank. And some random stuff. And buy in options from previous Kickstarters.
Archon doesn't do 'light on content'.


I have to admit I wonder sometimes how they're okay with tooling a dozen different sprues just for free stretch goals but are so slow to add new variant core content after the initial offer.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/26 10:53:12


Post by: Orlanth


Archon overreach but the core economics are good, so they stick with it.

Their main errors are on mixing sprue content which causes waste later.
They are learning not to do this.

Tooling is a once done is done state and Archon invested heavily in tooling architecture so they can afford this.

Rampart has its own foibles but they improved the base model with D&L with an evolving methodology for adding content which uses one off sprue designs as entire new sets.

Rampart looks to be evolving too, with tile beds and roof sections. Rampart walkways were badly conceived, worked poorly if at all and was generally replaced by homebrew card roofing for most applications. Archon seems to be learning from this and making practical roofing for their building sets.

Once they get this right they can potentially mix themes where appropriate. Currently Rampart terrain does not mix too well, even though the pieces are physically interchangable. Newer sets might well blend better.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/26 12:24:26


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


I spoke with Archon staff at Spiele in Essen last week but sadly none of the management was there. Untried to express a lot of the sentiments I have read on here to the poor chap that got stuck dealing with me the longest.

Seems to me despite my love for Kazumi Temple, it has done very badly in sales… I think we are unlikely to see much Kazumi in this new KS. And I am not convinced at this stage that the “generic floors” they are doing will be generic enough to work with our Kazumi bits. Which is a shame as the current Kazumi floors are terrible.

If I was doing post-apoc this new Rampart KS would be more exciting as we use Battle System terrain for our sci-fi.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/26 16:06:43


Post by: Apple fox


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
I spoke with Archon staff at Spiele in Essen last week but sadly none of the management was there. Untried to express a lot of the sentiments I have read on here to the poor chap that got stuck dealing with me the longest.

Seems to me despite my love for Kazumi Temple, it has done very badly in sales… I think we are unlikely to see much Kazumi in this new KS. And I am not convinced at this stage that the “generic floors” they are doing will be generic enough to work with our Kazumi bits. Which is a shame as the current Kazumi floors are terrible.

If I was doing post-apoc this new Rampart KS would be more exciting as we use Battle System terrain for our sci-fi.


I didn’t even know Kazumi temple existed, didn’t see it on there website.
But it looks really specific looking it up, so I am not surprised.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/26 16:23:11


Post by: lord_blackfang


Being so specific (and not much use for 40k) it's obviously going to be one of those things that some will love to bits and everyone else will be indifferent to.

As I play a lot of mesoamerican I adore the set, and it's the best value IMHO as it's all long, low walls so it covers more table than the "Sector Imperialis" knockoff styles.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/26 17:43:03


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Being so specific (and not much use for 40k) it's obviously going to be one of those things that some will love to bits and everyone else will be indifferent to.

As I play a lot of mesoamerican I adore the set, and it's the best value IMHO as it's all long, low walls so it covers more table than the "Sector Imperialis" knockoff styles.


I was hoping that AoS Seraphon players would gobble Kazumi Temple bits up but that does not seem to be the case.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/27 06:40:41


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


From the other thread, hat tip to Orlando the Technicolored.


After two years of development, we are happy to invite you to another battle! This time in the ruined city!

23rd of November, we are launching a new campaign on Kickstarter, and we are not starting without you! Featuring functional floors, bridges, and an all-new City Ruins Theme, Third Edition is the most complete terrain ever.

https://archon-studio.com/blog/rampart3

New Theme
We have also designed the all-new theme, “City Ruins”. It will support all your urban warfare, whether you’re waging your battle in the 1940s or in the 40th Millenium. This theme is rich with details and each piece of terrain has two sides - one featuring the external part of the building, the other more of the interior. If you are more into room-fighting, City Ruins got you covered.



Clear Plastic
After a successful implementation in Dungeons & Lasers, we are introducing clear plastic to the Rampart’s Universe. The new technology is coming in the Stretch Goals and in the new add-ons.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/archonstudio/rampart




Bridges and roofing
We have redesigned the Rampart flooring system from scratch. “Functional floors” come as a universal add-on compatible with every theme, and they are capable of holding quite a lot of weight. So bring out your tanks, mechs, and all the infantry you can get - the floor is lava!





We are planning plenty of Stretch Goals and a large part of them are going to be standalone objects, slightly bigger than your average oil barrel or supply crate. This time, infantry will get some cover!




Automatically Appended Next Post:
I've likes the Ramparts stuff I've had (mainly Kazumi temple), but the previous floors were pretty poor or if you were building intact buildings totally useless) so this looks a better idea

(although DIY foamboard will still probably be cheaper)

so i'll look forward to seeing more of what they have to offer


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/27 11:28:55


Post by: lord_blackfang


 insaniak wrote:
 DaveC wrote:
First renders for the ruined city

https://archon-studio.com/blog/rampart3


This really needs some filler pieces to cover over the plug holes on the corners and the gap between floors on the outsides of the walls. But otherwise looks fantastic.


I brought the gaps up in their discord and the official word is... they've got them covered



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/27 16:40:23


Post by: aka_mythos


 DaveC wrote:
Temple of the Damned is of most interest to me so long as they keep it neutral enough in design to work in both fantasy and sci-fi settings

They are also planning 5 inch x 5 inch tiles - I guess this is the size limit of their tooling machines.




I've been following their updates since they first announce this was happening. But I some how missed where ever they previewed these floor tiles. Where was that?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/27 18:00:10


Post by: DaveC


 aka_mythos wrote:
I've been following their updates since they first announce this was happening. But I some how missed where ever they previewed these floor tiles. Where was that?


They are in the survey they sent out

https://archon-studio.com/content/rampart-third-edition-prelaunch-survey


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/27 20:36:35


Post by: tneva82


Interesting they went with tile size that limits sales to gw players

Well. Not fan of plastic board. Will stick with foams and cloth


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/27 20:40:00


Post by: lord_blackfang


There's no good tile size that would reliably hit both classic and nu-GW sizes, but I was hoping for 8x4" instead of 5x5. Anyway even at Archon prices tiling a full table will probably be cost prohibitive to a lot of people, not really sure why they're going for it. Secret Weapon's plastic tiles sure didn't fly off the shelves.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/27 21:17:47


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 lord_blackfang wrote:


I brought the gaps up in their discord and the official word is... they've got them covered





That was good.

Anyway looks like this has some potential, especially for non-skull encrusted cities. I've not bought Rampart before, how are prices?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/27 21:57:11


Post by: DaveC


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:


I brought the gaps up in their discord and the official word is... they've got them covered





That was good.

Anyway looks like this has some potential, especially for non-skull encrusted cities. I've not bought Rampart before, how are prices?


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/archonstudio/rampart-stylish-and-modular-terrain/description

Core set plus stretch goals is priced at $49. That’s probably enough for a 2 foot by 2 foot area (Killteam for example)
A 6x4 table probably requires the $99 2 cores or $149 3 cores depending on how dense you like your terrain.

Kazumi core set pictured below - I picked Kazumi as it has similar sized tiles to the ruins preview. The new floors might alter the parts list a bit.


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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/28 03:35:58


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Is the Kazumi stuff available for those prices through this current Kickstarter?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/28 03:54:50


Post by: SergentSilver


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the Kazumi stuff available for those prices through this current Kickstarter?


Idk about that, but it looks like you can go to the original kickstarter they linked and late pledge at those prices. Haven't actually tried to order anything, but it will let you add the pledges to cart. Can even select the StarCide Teaser and, even better, the Wolverine Tank.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/28 05:57:05


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the Kazumi stuff available for those prices through this current Kickstarter?


Mrs. GG and I put in a late pledge last week through Gamefound.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/28 07:01:37


Post by: DaveC


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the Kazumi stuff available for those prices through this current Kickstarter?


Mrs. GG and I put in a late pledge last week through Gamefound.


Here’s the link

https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/rampart---stylish-and-modular-terrain#/section/project-overview


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/28 08:11:42


Post by: tneva82


 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's no good tile size that would reliably hit both classic and nu-GW sizes, but I was hoping for 8x4" instead of 5x5. Anyway even at Archon prices tiling a full table will probably be cost prohibitive to a lot of people, not really sure why they're going for it. Secret Weapon's plastic tiles sure didn't fly off the shelves.


Seeing people don't in practice care about 72"x60" board size whether it works for that is irrelevant. Especially as 5" doesn't work for it anyway.

4" would allow working with new minimum which is what people have largely switched to anyway. 5" doesn't. So those who follow gw minimum size as holy bibble won't touch this with 10 foot pole...it's harder to cut away excess here than mat's and they are already cutting up mats they have paid.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/28 17:30:40


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 SergentSilver wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the Kazumi stuff available for those prices through this current Kickstarter?


Idk about that, but it looks like you can go to the original kickstarter they linked and late pledge at those prices. Haven't actually tried to order anything, but it will let you add the pledges to cart. Can even select the StarCide Teaser and, even better, the Wolverine Tank.


Holy crap. Looks like I need to wait a week for payday.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the Kazumi stuff available for those prices through this current Kickstarter?


Mrs. GG and I put in a late pledge last week through Gamefound.


Is Gameround their pledge manager, or a retailer?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/28 18:48:09


Post by: Illumini


Pledge manager, but they use it as their webshop. Works fine, just takes a while for delivery.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/28 22:17:53


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


if you want multiples check the cost/usefulness of the bonus stuff as they're still giving you a tank (but only one per order)

so you need to weight the cost of multiple deliveries against the value of the bonus goodies to you


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/29 06:38:44


Post by: Illumini


The tank looks pretty bad in the bare plastic, but it does paint up well, and fits very well in 40k with tons of rivets. Just add an aquila. Shipping costs probably breaks the bank for splitting up a large purchase just for the tank though.

Spoiler:


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/30 21:43:54


Post by: GreenScorpion


Quick question on the previous rampart, how long does it usually take for them to pick up an order made through gamefound? (in case anyone who ordered recently is able to say)

I am not very keen on ordering without having some typical reference for the waiting to be expected as I often have to coordinate with family to actually receive the orders, so just wanted to check if there is a reliable waiting period or not.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/10/31 12:40:21


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


about a week or two for dispatch when I did a recent order if I remember right, so a bit longer than normal online shopping,


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/01 04:17:42


Post by: Miguelsan


Anybody remembers who posted images of the Kazumi temple?

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/01 08:01:04


Post by: DaveC


 Miguelsan wrote:
Anybody remembers who posted images of the Kazumi temple?

M.


Both myself and Orlando have posted some.



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/01 09:29:55


Post by: Miguelsan


Really lovely.
Thank you.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/01 23:59:06


Post by: Orlanth


 DaveC wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the Kazumi stuff available for those prices through this current Kickstarter?


Mrs. GG and I put in a late pledge last week through Gamefound.


Here’s the link

https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/rampart---stylish-and-modular-terrain#/section/project-overview


Is the 'open'? I got mine in January 2020 on the same campaign.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
if you want multiples check the cost/usefulness of the bonus stuff as they're still giving you a tank (but only one per order)

so you need to weight the cost of multiple deliveries against the value of the bonus goodies to you


If you are UK based do make multiple orders of £135 or less, this way you pay your VAT to Archon rather than on import. If you pay on import the shipping firm (Fed Ex) will gouge you.

A Wolverine tank each order is a good incentive to make multiple orders also, the vehicle is good. It can serve as a not-Chimera or a not-Russ. If you want a Russ glue the infantry compartment, if you want a Chimera replace the turret with a small resin one, or just downgrade the gun.

My only concern with the Wolverine is the stowage molded onto the extra armour. i wish they didn't do that as it means it is hard to customise the tank, leaving stowage off means leaving the underlying armlour panel off which doesn't look right as it looks bad to mix and match and so you end up either all on or all off.

The free commissar is a good mini, and there are some nice pieces in the stretchgoals but most is junk.

The main problem is the way the ceiling walkways are put together, basically they do not work. Do not buy extras ceiling pieces, you want use most of them, youi need to custom make ceilings though you can make use of the ceiling supports.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/02 02:29:32


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


It seems open. They took our money… I will let folks on here know when the stuff arrives.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/02 04:12:52


Post by: Miguelsan


Please do. I'm going to wait until the KS in case there is something new that catches my eye, but if not I might use the gamefound way.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/02 08:04:28


Post by: DaveC


 Miguelsan wrote:
Please do. I'm going to wait until the KS in case there is something new that catches my eye, but if not I might use the gamefound way.

M.


For D&L they locked the previous pledges on Gamefound just prior to the KS they might do the same again for Rampart so waiting might mean you have to go with the KS offers and rapid delivery on the stuff that already exists.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/02 12:06:26


Post by: Miguelsan


I'll have to live with that I guess. The lure of free add on is too strong Also I have too many things to paint that I can wait a bit more.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/02 14:58:03


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


I have to admit their habit of closing earlier late pledge options and making earlier items either more expensive or unavailable in follow on kickstarters is one reason why we finally stopped procrastinating on our late pledge.

Kazumi Temple items are not guaranteed to be available in the next Rampart KS as so far they have not shown any new Kazumi bits and I have heard Kazumi sold very poorly.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/03 18:01:24


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Well, I was surprised to see we got an email from FedEx saying we should get a parcel from Archon Studio on Friday. I do not think it is our D&L 3 pledge yet, so should be our Rampart 2 late pledge. If so, that was quick. Will let you folks no more on Friday.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/03 18:21:10


Post by: lord_blackfang


Someone posted painted Cobalt on FB today and boy does it look lovely in Sector Mechanicus type grime. Almost ordered another set, but then I realized I'm gonna be better off doing it later, as whatever the new stretch goals are they'll be more useful to me than another Wolverine tank.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/03 18:24:38


Post by: Illumini


Got a link? Getting pretty close to painting up my own set


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/03 23:43:28


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Is the wolverine tank only included in specific pledges? Only in this campaign?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/04 09:21:37


Post by: Miguelsan


That seems fast!

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/04 09:31:27


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 Miguelsan wrote:
That seems fast!

M.


I agree. If we do indeed get our Rampart pledge tomorrow, I will try to get a full review of the three sets on my blog with a few days.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/04 11:30:03


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the wolverine tank only included in specific pledges? Only in this campaign?


it comes with the 'free' strech goal pack when you buy a core set https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/rampart---stylish-and-modular-terrain/products/details/3429#/



but it's one per order unless you pay for more separately (and the stretch goal packs you order separately don't come with it)


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/04 15:20:15


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the wolverine tank only included in specific pledges? Only in this campaign?


it comes with the 'free' strech goal pack when you buy a core set https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/rampart---stylish-and-modular-terrain/products/details/3429#/



but it's one per order unless you pay for more separately (and the stretch goal packs you order separately don't come with it)


Holy Toledo.

I went for the $49 pledge and didn’t get the closest look at the teeny little images. I thought that was just a bonus sprue, and I thought, “alright! Bonus sprue!” I expected them to have a bigger picture of the tank.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/04 15:22:19


Post by: lord_blackfang


IIRC it's 3 sprues of bits plus the tank.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/05 17:58:02


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


According to FedEx tracking the parcel got delayed, is still in Poland but should arrive here in Germany Monday. Something about a watched kettle never boiling comes to mind.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/08 12:37:25


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Our Rampart 2 late pledge arrived today. So much stuff! Three basic pledges came with three of the tanks, which surprised me. The Cathedral set came in what I think might be the retail packaging. Very quick turn around, just a couple of weeks.

If you are comsidering a late pledge I would get it in ASAP.

I will try to get a review of the kits on my blog in the next few days.

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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/09 12:05:46


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Question for GG, do you think any of the sets would work for 40k fortress walls? Something tall enough to be credible with battlements to put people behind?

Maybe the Cobalt Foundry?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/09 14:08:54


Post by: Illumini


None of the current designs look like fortress walls. There are some pieces that do not have windows or doors, that can work, but they have a lot of other details that makes them not convincing as fortress walls. There are also no good pieces included to make battlements.

The new design looks like it could possibly work as a fortress wall, but I think there are better options out there.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/09 14:12:52


Post by: lord_blackfang


Mantic makes decent fortress walls.

Not quite as cost efficient anymore

https://www.manticgames.com/games/terrain-crate/sci-fi-terrain-crate/battlezones-sci-fi-terrain-crate/military-compound/



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/09 15:19:41


Post by: Orlanth


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Our Rampart 2 late pledge arrived today. So much stuff! Three basic pledges came with three of the tanks, which surprised me. The Cathedral set came in what I think might be the retail packaging. Very quick turn around, just a couple of weeks.
If you are considering a late pledge I would get it in ASAP.
I will try to get a review of the kits on my blog in the next few days.


Wolverine tanks used to be one per order, not one per core set. This might be an error in your favour. I think the Wolverine serves better as a Chimera than a Russ.

The Cathedral does have new packaging, the older packing looked like the other sets. It is the best of the three sets in my opinion, and has a lot of versatility for medieval and gothic gaming. Pick up the Apse set, it is relatively expensive by sprue count but is worth it.
I am fairly disappointed by the Cobalt set, the windows and doors are very weird. Cobalt does have the best walkways though, and the synergise well with Cathedral walls for a 'Cities of Death' feel.
Kazumi has issues also with the connecting square section columns, you may need to resculpt the face reliefs when you do building corners. Kazumi walkways do not work, or can they be made to work.

Stretch goal boxes contain some good stuff, but Archon has got a lot better at stretchgoals since.

Late pledges seem to have been continually active since early 2020.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/09 19:03:13


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


I do not think any of the current Rampart sets would make good fortress walls.

As usual Orlanth you are a source of useful information and I agree with you.

And now, my review Archon Studio Rampart 2 Kickstarter…


https://thegrumpygnome.home.blog/2021/11/09/review-archon-studio-rampart-2/

TLDR: We are very pleased.



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/09 19:05:35


Post by: lord_blackfang


As someone waiting to play Ghost Archipelago with Wargames Atlantic Conquistadors vs Aztecs on Kazumi terrain, I feel a bit singled out by your blog post.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/09 19:12:10


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I got some for similar reasons…and for the upcoming Shadows of Brimstone Adventures games…and because my son is currently obsessed with South and Meso-American ruins and temples…and Stargate SG1. If we have fun with the sampler, I’ll probably make a second pledge in the new year.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/09 20:50:06


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
I do not think any of the current Rampart sets would make good fortress walls.




Cheers, thanks.

The project is probably a year away anyway.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 01:21:10


Post by: Miguelsan


Looking forward to see your Kazumi temple painted (tho if you are as slow painter as I am it might take a bit ) With regular air travel resuming I might be able to travel back home and get my cathedral pledge soonish.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 07:45:02


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 lord_blackfang wrote:
As someone waiting to play Ghost Archipelago with Wargames Atlantic Conquistadors vs Aztecs on Kazumi terrain, I feel a bit singled out by your blog post.


You are not alone, I too am waiting for those elusive Conquistador and Aztec models.

Sadly I am a slow painter with a long backlog of work…so it may be awhile before you see my Kazumi Temple pieces painted.

Kazumi for Stargate… hmm… tempting…. No, must reist yet another genre… but so tempting!


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 15:08:26


Post by: lord_blackfang


First stream and I think stealth reveal of the first stretch goal mini




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I think I've seen that guy standing in front of McDonalds taking orders from unvaxxed folks who aren't allowed in


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 15:42:19


Post by: Stormonu


I picked up the Kazumi temple partly because I like the mezoamerican design and partly for our D&D Tomb of Annihilation game - unfortunately I haven’t been able to get the DM to actually use them, though.

I ended up with 3 of the Wolverine tanks - they’re very nice and it caught me off guard that they’re a combination Russ/Chimera. They do look like they better suited as Chimeras.

This is a video I made some time back, prior to having painted the Kazumi ruins.




Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 16:22:32


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


That is a great example of Kazumi potential, thanks for sharing that video.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 17:41:55


Post by: DaveC


Delayed until January 2022

A few more Rampart 3 images - looks like they are adding the Sci-Fi version of guard and (maybe?) townsfolks





Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 18:23:58


Post by: Sacredroach


Those not-DKK soldiers look like they would go nicely with Shieldfwolf's not-DKK soldiers...


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 18:49:05


Post by: lord_blackfang


Shame about the delay but if they got an epiphany now on how to improve the project, so much better.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 19:21:13


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Well… now I think we can expect to see a bunch of miniatures as stretch goals for another terrain Kickstarter.

I could do without the stahlhelms making it look like more Space Nazis are coming from the dark side of the Moon.

But to give credit where credit is due, the terrain looks better than I expected… even if it is not something I need for any of my projects.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 19:32:58


Post by: lord_blackfang


Cramming Space Nazi minis everywhere is a proud Polish tradition tho.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 19:35:20


Post by: sh4mike


Would be amazing if they did a "townsfolk starter" equivalent from D&L3 for this next Rampart campaign. That set was practically worth the pledge cost itself.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 19:48:12


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I'm trying to recall if those infantry are actually designs from their Empires of Men resin campaign from quite a few years ago.

I'm okay with postponing things too.

Plus it'll give me time to catch up on trying to paint my D&L terrain.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/10 19:52:55


Post by: Illumini


Sci-fi civilians, especially 40k looking ones, would be a big boost. The new terrain line itself looks very boring, and fails at looking like an actual ruined building IMO, but would pledge for the old designs if the new add-ons are good enough


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/11 19:16:43


Post by: aka_mythos


Better to delay before the kickstarter than after it.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/16 21:05:19


Post by: lord_blackfang


Stream live right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ-vlSURt_Y


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/16 21:38:10


Post by: DaveC


Floors compatible with previous sets
Can use them as bridges as well - add railings
3 shapes and sizes - small (1 square), L shape, large (4 squares)
Square clips
1 common floor design
Wall gap - trim system to fill - currently in sculpting
Clear plastic force fields
Ladders
All previous sets available in KS 3
No plans for curved walls
Cannot magnetise floors - clips only
No roofing system use floors

Internal and external details
Walker mini - Super Stretch Goal - 90mm tall - 2 or 4 legs poseable includes base - per pledge or per backer TBC

Miniatures
6 model Stormtroopers - inc female options
6 Marksmen - snipers
3 Riders - mech cavalry
3 Weapon teams - optional weapon parts
3 "Ogres"
Swappable arms special weapons will be added

Pledges like D&L 3 - terrain or minis or mix
UK pledges


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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/16 21:38:16


Post by: lord_blackfang




















So that's happening.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/16 22:35:22


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


That Walker will go well with both AT-43 mechs and Dust Tactics mechs.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 02:45:28


Post by: Stormonu


Hey, I have a resin version of that walker! Looks like it was originally a Prodos design. "Empire of Man Mammoth Walker", according to my e-bay purchase.



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 05:53:31


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Most of those figures were part of their Empire of Man campaign from quite some ways back. I built one of those mammoth tanks as well. There were a few planes and some Giger- esque space elf designs too.

Cool to see it all get done up in plastic. If they're offering all that up as part of the Rampart package I imagine it'll do some pretty big numbers like Woodhaven did as well, and I'll happily be backing.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 06:50:16


Post by: ScarletRose


Not a fan of the troops, but I'll take a dozen of those walkers.

Maybe they can capitalize on the Dust 1947 crowd?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 06:57:39


Post by: lord_blackfang


Are the horses wearing Crocs?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 07:49:57


Post by: Miguelsan


Having confirmed that Kazumi temple will be in the KS I'm looking forward to it. I was not very interested in the newer stuff and I already have a cathedral waiting for me.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 11:13:17


Post by: GreenScorpion


Most of the miniatures seem to be similar in terms of poses and such to the Empire of Men kickstarter they did in resin, which is good because I didn't get them at the time.

I am guessing that if these sell well the kickstarter for the miniatures won't be far behind. Lets see how it goes.

To those who have the miniatures they did in previous rampart/dungeon and lasers kickstarters, I am guessing that the miniatures have all been monopose so far? Or do they have some degree of variability in terms of pose of arms or heads?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 12:33:49


Post by: Ian Sturrock


Got my late pledge through in about 2 weeks, in the UK, as another data point.

Looks worth it for the terrain and tank, easily. The minis look pretty dire and I happily sold the box of them to a friend who runs a games shop for £3... I hope he can make a profit on it.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 18:21:52


Post by: Illumini


Hope they bring back more of the empire of man tanks. Lots of very cool tanks there.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 23:02:06


Post by: Ernster


I wonder what the prices will be? The resin Mammoth walkers were $18 U.S. in the KS. I hope the plastic will be affordable as well.
My only complaint about them is no Machine gun or such for protection against infantry. Perhaps they will read this and rectify it?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 23:11:41


Post by: DaveC


Ernster wrote:
I wonder what the prices will be? The resin Mammoth walkers were $18 U.S. in the KS. I hope the plastic will be affordable as well.
My only complaint about them is no Machine gun or such for protection against infantry. Perhaps they will read this and rectify it?


Should be 1 included per pledge level (or per backer TBC depending on costs) sounds like they are going for pledge levels more like D&L3 - €85 rather than Rampart 2s $49 but it should have more contents. The Wolverine Tank cost $30 (on its own in the PM) the D&L Ghost Dragon was €29 separately both where the super stretch goal like the Mammoth so expect prices in that range.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/17 23:17:20


Post by: Ernster


I should clarify, I hope they have Mammoth Add-ons as that is what I want multiples of.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/18 10:08:42


Post by: Illumini


They had that for the tank last time I believe


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/19 01:07:07


Post by: timd


 Illumini wrote:
Got a link? Getting pretty close to painting up my own set


Started a Rampart fans FB page for build and magnetizing tips and pics of painted stuff: https://www.facebook.com/groups/526287428614736

T


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/21 05:59:20


Post by: Stormonu


Ernster wrote:
I wonder what the prices will be? The resin Mammoth walkers were $18 U.S. in the KS. I hope the plastic will be affordable as well.
My only complaint about them is no Machine gun or such for protection against infantry. Perhaps they will read this and rectify it?


Why need a machine gun when you can kick or stomp those pesky infantry?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/11/22 07:39:42


Post by: timd


 Miguelsan wrote:
Having confirmed that Kazumi temple will be in the KS I'm looking forward to it. I was not very interested in the newer stuff and I already have a cathedral waiting for me.


No real reason to wait to order Kazumi stuff if you don't want anything else. Late pledged for a Kauzumi set and some other stuff three days ago and just got an email that it was ready to ship. Ordered on core set, which gets all the stretch goals (including the tank) and the yet another Starcide Teaser Pack.

Shipping to California was $30 for 3.15 kilos.

T


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/01 17:27:25


Post by: DaveC


Stairs and Ladders - looks like an industrial reskin of the D&L ones. Looks like they've also rendered the building trim pieces to fill the gaps between levels





Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/02 06:58:44


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Given a recent addition to my hobby projects, this new Rampart 3 terrain now has appeal for me. Looks like we will be backing this one after all.

I just want to restate that Mrs. GG and I were very happy with our recent late pledge for Rampart 2. It was delivered in just a couple of weeks and was great value for money… especially if we can finally get working floor options at some point.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/02 09:12:54


Post by: Illumini


Those stairs look actually usable for minis. Might also be possible to make them work for the double height walls, which is a huge weakness with the current ones


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/03 00:18:16


Post by: Bossk_Hogg


They're going to sell a feth ton of those floors. Really improves the usability of this, which limited my initial purchases.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/06 13:06:04


Post by: DaveC


More city defenders for the KS - (may also contain terrain )

Commandos


Psychic Covenants




Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/07 09:26:59


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


I really wish they did not make the weapons so huge, they look unrealistically out of scale… like some sort of Nerf guns or supersoakers.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/07 10:05:24


Post by: Illumini


Agreed, they look silly. The minis so far have 0 value to me


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/07 16:09:35


Post by: DaveC


No argument with that weapons could do with being scaled down a bit - but I’m only interested in the Terrain anyway.

Next reveal stream 14th December 22:00 CET/ 21:00 GMT/ 16:00 EST

https://youtu.be/ZwbWQGlaiI4


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/07 20:42:38


Post by: NAVARRO


Went to check prodos site and all links there say they are unsafe?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/07 21:54:46


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


their host forgot to update the security certificate i should think


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/08 07:31:11


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 DaveC wrote:
No argument with that weapons could do with being scaled down a bit - but I’m only interested in the Terrain anyway.

Next reveal stream 14th December 22:00 CET/ 21:00 GMT/ 16:00 EST

https://youtu.be/ZwbWQGlaiI4


Based on their Dungeons and Lasers 3 Kickstarter we are going to see a lot more miniatures than terrain scatter as freebie stretchgoals. Of course there is always eBay.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/08 08:28:00


Post by: lord_blackfang


If it's 85€ for 50 sprues I don't even care what's on them!


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/09 16:36:54


Post by: NAVARRO


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
their host forgot to update the security certificate i should think


I dont know man, but with the poor track record of Prodos in the past and now a suspicious site makes it not a company Im willing to trust my details... I mean they have an UK address on the site too but they are a Polish company?

Does any store in the UK carries their ranges? I really dont want to deal with them directly at this point.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/09 16:42:11


Post by: lord_blackfang


A website being flagged as suspicious by your browser has aboslutely nothing to do with their integrity as a company.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/09 17:02:26


Post by: NAVARRO


 lord_blackfang wrote:
A website being flagged as suspicious by your browser has aboslutely nothing to do with their integrity as a company.


In isolation no but when theres a background yes... read post.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/09 17:51:40


Post by: lord_blackfang


Just saying your antivirus doesn't go "these guys ripped people off on kickstarter, better put up a vague alert". It's an entirely technical issue.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/09 17:54:32


Post by: DaveC


which sites are you looking at NAVARRO

There's Prodos Games and Store now largely defunct - sites exist but you can't order from them

https://prodosgames.com/
https://shop.prodosgames.com/

And Archon Studio and Store - Rampart and D&L
https://archon-studio.com/games
https://archon-studio.com/shop/

Both trading out of Poland and neither being flagged that I can see (EDIT Prodos is on my iPad but not on my laptop)

Firestorm Games, Miniature Market, FantasyWelt and E-Minis stock some of the kits that have gone to retail

https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/roleplaying/dungeons--lasers
http://www.e-minis.net/scenery-dungeons-lasers-c-737_733_7724.html?language=en
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/searchresults/?q=archon
https://www.fantasywelt.de/navi.php?qs=Dungeons+%26+Lasers
https://www.miniaturicum.de/?k=1917&lang=eng


Rampart 2 is still available on Gamefound

https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/rampart---stylish-and-modular-terrain?ref=search

as is D&L 3

https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/united-kingdom-dungeons--lasers-third-edition?ref=creator

As a backer of AVP I know first hand the issues with Prodos but I've never had problems with Archon


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/09 18:08:05


Post by: NAVARRO


Amazing thanks for the help DaveC, thats exactly what I was looking for. I was checking these 2

https://prodosgames.com/
https://shop.prodosgames.com/

Was not aware these sites were dead but security bells were ringing.

Archon sites seem fine and going to check if I can grab some kits from third parties.

Again thanks!



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 21:52:32


Post by: DaveC


Rampart 3 2nd preview info

- KS preview page tomorrow
- no decals
- City themed wall toppers/plugs
- Walker SG 1 per backer at €800,000
- KS 11th January 2022
- 1 set to cover 17" square (dense) to 2 feet square (lighter)
- no doors planned - open doors only
- edge trims short and long versions
- old themes and add ons available - Rapid Delivery

Terrain set themes - Kazumi Tribal, Gothic Cathedral, Cobalt Industrial, City Ruins (new theme)

City ruins terrain set does not include floors they are in the Vertical Set or as separate Add Ons

Multiple level 1 sets is not the optimal choice this time they've changed that from the last few KS

Level 1 Starter €99
1 terrain set (4 themes available)
1 vertical set or 1 City defenders
1 SG set

Level 2 Expanded €149
2 Terrain sets
1 vertical set or 1 City defenders
2 SG sets

Level 3 Massive Battle €199
3 terrain sets
1 vertical set or 1 City defenders
3 SG sets

level 4 Complete Rampart Universe €349
4 terrain sets
1 Vertical set or 1 City defenders
4 SG Sets
1 Legacy SG 1
1 Legacy SG 2
1 Apse
1 Legacy Stairs
1 Legacy Floors
1 Plasma Silo
1 Legacy Themed Toppers
1 Wolverine Tank
1 Starcide teaser pack
1 Legacy extras set

- Wolverine Tank available €30 add on

Vertical set- 1 x ladder set, 1 x bridge set, 1 x ramp set, 1 x stair set, 2 x floor set

- City Defenders separate add on 30 minis €50 no SG
6 Stormtroopers
6 Marksmen
3 Uberman (Ogryns)
3 Riders
3 weapon teams
6 Commandos
3 Psychers

Add Ons Qtys TBC

Functional stairs €10
Bridges €15
Extra Rampart 3 SG set €35
Rampart 3 Floors €20
Ladders €10
Ramp €15
Plasma Silo €25
old Toppers €5
Rampart 2 SG €15
Rampart 1 SG €10
old stairs €3
Apse €25
Old Floors €4
6 man or 3 man mini squads €TBC






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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 22:05:42


Post by: Theophony


I have not followed this at all, so maybe already covered, but are the support "Pegs" the same size as Lego? That is what I thought the first time I looked at it and started to think of how I could incorporate the two.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 22:08:04


Post by: DaveC


 Theophony wrote:
I have not followed this at all, so maybe already covered, but are the support "Pegs" the same size as Lego? That is what I thought the first time I looked at it and started to think of how I could incorporate the two.


Pegs are 5mm in diameter if I recall correctly


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 22:16:32


Post by: Theophony


 DaveC wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
I have not followed this at all, so maybe already covered, but are the support "Pegs" the same size as Lego? That is what I thought the first time I looked at it and started to think of how I could incorporate the two.


Pegs are 5mm in diameter if I recall correctly


Thanks DaveC


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 22:19:01


Post by: sh4mike


Ack, looks like I'll have to give up City Defenders, as the vertical set is more important. Disappointing, would love to have had both in the 149 pledge, even if that would have made it 159 or even 169. Can't personally justify a 50 euro add-on upcharge for it.

Actually, if Archon would let us swap a second core terrain set or second SG set for City Defenders in the 149 or 199, that would work for me. Fingers crossed.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 22:29:21


Post by: DaveC


sh4mike they normally take feedback on the KS preview page no harm in asking.

The City Ruins is going to be very short of floors at higher pledge levels if you only ever get 1 vertical set included.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 22:43:10


Post by: Ernster


No Mammoth Walker add on???


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 22:43:59


Post by: DaveC


Ernster wrote:
No Mammoth Walker add on???


There will be but it has to be unlocked first.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 22:46:10


Post by: Ernster


Thanks Dave.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/14 23:23:08


Post by: lord_blackfang


Hmmm the edge trim system looks awfully fiddly


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 00:50:29


Post by: Miguelsan


Thanks for summarizing the video for us. I'm not convinced about the new stuff but I was going to order Kazumi plus extras in any case.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 07:55:40


Post by: Illumini


Hope they bring out some empire of man things as add-ons, really want a lot of those tanks


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 09:27:31


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Thanks for all the info from the video.

I am very surprised, pleasantly surprised, that the miniatures will not be stretchgoal freebies.

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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 09:44:14


Post by: lord_blackfang


The stretch goals get more expensive with every campaign, I hope the contents go up to match! But interesting that they're finally offering double/triple SG built right into the higher pledges. I imagine that's going to be received well.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 16:22:46


Post by: DaveC


KS preview page


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 21:05:59


Post by: Bossk_Hogg


Ugh are the floors only sold with the ramps/bridges/ladders? I need way more floors than the rest of the junk, and I cant imagine I'm alone.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 21:27:31


Post by: DaveC


 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Ugh are the floors only sold with the ramps/bridges/ladders? I need way more floors than the rest of the junk, and I cant imagine I'm alone.


They are available on their own as a €20 add on - contents TBC

Spoiler:


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 21:38:22


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


it wouldn't surprise me to find the floors end up on sprues with other stuff on too,

and then get clipped off to be sold separatelty (it's a pain to get those big surfaces on sprues without wasted space, so temting to bung other stuff on there to fill it up)


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 21:40:52


Post by: DaveC


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
it wouldn't surprise me to find the floors end up on sprues with other stuff on too,

and then get clipped off to be sold separatelty


Floor sprue is already done 1 large (2x2) 2 small 1 rectangle (2x1) and connectors. 2 floor sets in the vertical set - but not sure what a floor set contains - if it's 1 sprue or more than 1.

Speaking of floors it looks like they dropped the street tiles idea.

Spoiler:


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/15 22:01:32


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Actually that's not bad, a decent use of space, shame on the pricing then if they're not padding it to account for wastage, but i guess everything is going up now


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/16 07:29:29


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Actually that's not bad, a decent use of space, shame on the pricing then if they're not padding it to account for wastage, but i guess everything is going up now


Looking at the pricing, everything is indeed going up. I am glad I convinced Mrs. GG to late back Rampart 2 rather than wait for Rampart 3.

It is nice to see the figures be an option rather than mandatory. I still expect to see figures end up as stretchgoals due to customer demand but Archon may surprise me.

Will the stretchgoals all be scatter terrain for the new city theme?

As it currently stands the preview of Rampart 3 has not made me as enthusiastic as I had hoped I would be.

My gaming includes an element of almost diorama building in its aesthetic goal. The Rampart pieces, all of the themes, seem incomplete. They work well enough for ruins but somehow lack the ability to create lived in looking structures. It is as if the pieces symbolize buildings rather than are buildings, if that makes any sense. Like they are icons rather than scale model replicas. That is fine I suppose for basic gameplay and I suppose the pieces work well enough as bits to bash together for your own conversion work but I was hoping for more.

As it stands now the new city pieces do not really work for me as stand alone bunkers or bombed out blockhousing ala Stalingrad. Can they maybe be made to work as exterior pieces for D&L Vault 7 pieces, maybe?

No doors? Why are doors such an issue? Surely Archon has learned customers are interested in doors. I mean ok, working doors are problematic? Fine. Go back to door pieces with and without a door.

Ugh. Maybe I am just in a particularly grouchy mood this morning but this ks seems like so many missed opportunities yet again. Archon keeps making things I almost love. We have a big collection of Archon stuff that we really like… I just wish it was just a touch more refined and complete so I could love.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/16 08:10:27


Post by: tneva82


They are catering for the 40k tournament crowd. Doors? LOS openings. Bad. 40k needs LOS blocking.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/16 09:45:17


Post by: lord_blackfang


I am underwhelmed also. Hopefully they still get enough funding to make the stretch goal pack worth €35 but it's hard to imagine this being more successful than D&L3. I don't even know which to pick between City Defenders and Vertical elements (because I'm underwhelmed by both). The floors with the awkward LEGO trim beams don't seem worth it compared to something I could knock up in Blender and print myself, and they sure as hell don't fit with Kazumi with the electrical wiring underneath nor really the cracked concrete tops with otherwise all-metal Cobalt.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/16 10:27:48


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 lord_blackfang wrote:
I am underwhelmed also. Hopefully they still get enough funding to make the stretch goal pack worth €35 but it's hard to imagine this being more successful than D&L3. I don't even know which to pick between City Defenders and Vertical elements (because I'm underwhelmed by both). The floors with the awkward LEGO trim beams don't seem worth it compared to something I could knock up in Blender and print myself, and they sure as hell don't fit with Kazumi with the electrical wiring underneath nor really the cracked concrete tops with otherwise all-metal Cobalt.


I really do not understand the decision to make just one floor style… and then not make it generic enough to fit all four themes.

The more I look at the City theme the busier it looks, especially on multiple levels together. And too busy is a common complaint I see about D&L sci-fi on the Lead Adventure Forum.

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=134545.0

And those busy details which look great on a couple of pieces start looking really repetitive without plain cement walls between them.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/16 11:56:26


Post by: manic _miner


Do you have to buy the floor set to have pieces for the bridge set or does the bridge come with the floor pieces?
Looking forward to this one.
Would be nice to have the third KS set in before starting this one.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/16 14:01:26


Post by: judgedoug


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:

I really do not understand the decision to make just one floor style… and then not make it generic enough to fit all four themes.


I do not have any of the other Rampart kickstarters so do not quite know this answer, but are the three other floor styles that are included in the three previous designs (and available to purchase separately) not "floors"?
I just assumed the new "ruins" floors are for the new "ruins" design.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/16 14:08:01


Post by: DaveC


 judgedoug wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:

I really do not understand the decision to make just one floor style… and then not make it generic enough to fit all four themes.


I do not have any of the other Rampart kickstarters so do not quite know this answer, but are the three other floor styles that are included in the three previous designs (and available to purchase separately) not "floors"?
I just assumed the new "ruins" floors are for the new "ruins" design.
.

Not really floors no, just platforms it’s very difficult to make a whole floor from them in the end I didn’t even bother with them and just used 5mm Foamed PVC which looks similar especially as details like tiles and cracks can be carved in it easily. Beasts of War ended up using card floors for their big build for similar reasons. Black Magic Craft did make whole floors from them but he had lots sent to him and he still had a lot of gaps to fill to make it work.

City ruin floors are the first time they’ve done proper floors but they won’t fit Kazumi with the tech details and they won’t fit the look of Cobalt or Cathedral without slight modifications as those have octagonal pillars not square.

I won’t be buying extra floors for Rampart 3 at €20 a set plus whatever trims will cost on top, 5mm Foamed PVC is €7 for 3 200x300 sheets.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/20 19:49:25


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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/27 13:53:12


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


If you have not seen it yet, it may be worth your time to review the old Empire of Man Kickstarter from Archon Studio.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/geeksaw/empire-of-men-28mm-sci-fi-miniatures-collection/description


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/27 13:59:10


Post by: lord_blackfang


Would be neat if they made the MBT into plastic also


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/27 17:06:10


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Does anyone know if the Empire of Man Kickstarter accepts late pledges? Is there a PM for it, or do I pledge through Kickstarter? I didn’t see it on their Gamefound site, but Archon are clearly a company who love to keep late pledges open.

Thanks.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/27 17:27:56


Post by: DaveC


some stretch goal renders to make the ruins look more post apocalyptic



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/27 17:31:34


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Mmm i could use those for Punkapocalyptic...


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/27 17:41:04


Post by: lord_blackfang


Not sure what's happening to that cannon but otherwise a neat enough concept, tho I'd much rather they did the bespoke postapoc theme that was shown off at the start.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/27 20:25:57


Post by: Illumini


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does anyone know if the Empire of Man Kickstarter accepts late pledges? Is there a PM for it, or do I pledge through Kickstarter? I didn’t see it on their Gamefound site, but Archon are clearly a company who love to keep late pledges open.

Thanks.


It does not unfortunately. I have contacted them about buying anything from that kickstarter, as I missed it, but it is not possible.
Since they are bringing back some of the items from it here, I hope they bring back more, would love several of those tanks. I would buy the Stahlratte in a heartbeat, and the artillery and MBT also both look good.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/27 23:07:04


Post by: Orlanth


You dont need Empires of Men, the models are available as free extras with Rampart 3 pledges, and some appeared in Rampart 2, notably the tank and commissar..


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/28 00:35:12


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 Orlanth wrote:
You dont need Empires of Men, the models are available as free extras with Rampart 3 pledges, and some appeared in Rampart 2, notably the tank and commissar..


Even the not-Eldar minis? Those are the ones I most want.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2021/12/28 14:18:21


Post by: Illumini


Very few of them have been available in rampart previously, and for now, only human infantry has been shown to be a part of rampart 3. Which is why I hope they add the tanks as well


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/05 16:13:27


Post by: DaveC


The contents list for the Ruined city set has been updated. I'm happy to see wall toppers are part of the set.

Spoiler:


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/05 16:32:06


Post by: lord_blackfang


99€ for 1 set plus city defenders/vertical elements plus SG

versus

49$ for 1 set plus starcide preview plus SG (Rampart 2)

Better be amazing SG, last time I got a tank.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/05 17:25:07


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Are those eagle toppers going to be available separately? Or even as part of an accessory sprue with the other “Xx” elements? Asking for a Battlefleet.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/05 18:13:49


Post by: lord_blackfang


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Are those eagle toppers going to be available separately? Or even as part of an accessory sprue with the other “Xx” elements? Asking for a Battlefleet.


Way big for BFG and probably only in the main wall kits if previous toppers are to go by.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/05 20:49:43


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


We clearly disagree on how much eagle is too much eagle for BFG.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/06 01:45:20


Post by: Miguelsan


 lord_blackfang wrote:
99€ for 1 set plus city defenders/vertical elements plus SG

versus

49$ for 1 set plus starcide preview plus SG (Rampart 2)

Better be amazing SG, last time I got a tank.


For starters you get a big walker if the KS makes it to 300,000€ (?), but I understand what you are saying, the prior KS were very good content for the money.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/06 15:09:59


Post by: Sacredroach


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
We clearly disagree on how much eagle is too much eagle for BFG.


All I could think of was this quote from Futurama:

"The seats are stuffed with eagle down, and the dashboard is made form the beaks of a thousand eagles. Also, there are some eagles under the floorboards....the luxury edition has so much more eagle. It saddens me to think of you missing out."


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/06 15:47:14


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I often think of that quote when blinging out my spaceships and space marines.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/06 16:59:13


Post by: judgedoug


 lord_blackfang wrote:
99€ for 1 set plus city defenders/vertical elements plus SG

versus

49$ for 1 set plus starcide preview plus SG (Rampart 2)

Better be amazing SG, last time I got a tank.


unless I am mistaken, the new sets include much more than the older sets?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/06 17:26:31


Post by: sh4mike


New pricing got me nervous, so picked up 4 sets. If the new KS SGs blow me away (like they did in D&L3), I'll get the 99 Euro core for City Ruins.

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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/06 23:31:48


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Does anyone have any Kazumi platforms or toppers they are willing to part with?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/07 02:29:11


Post by: KipCujo


Piggybacking the above if anyone is looking to dump a Wolverine tank or two - I really don’t need to add to my terrain backlog but I’ve been looking for a cheaper alternative to GW tanks for display with my sci-fi models and this looks the part.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/07 10:54:31


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


I think for me it is really going to depend on the stretchgoals for whether Mrs. GG and I back Rampart 3. Right now we are not feeling it yet but I am trying to remain optimistic.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/07 18:48:11


Post by: ScarletRose


If they can get to the walker stretch goal I'm definitely in, moreso if it's an add-on as well.

For rampart 2 I got one set of kazumi ruins and three tanks, so my focus is more on getting quality plastic vehicles with some nice terrain rather than vice versa.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/08 12:44:25


Post by: DaveC


The add on image has been updated with quantities

Functional Stairs €10 - 1 Stairs in 2 halves (12 parts)
Bridge Set €15 - 4 short railings, 2 long railings, 10 pillars, 12 L supports, 1 Large Square floors (2x2),1 rectangular floor (2x1), 2 small floors (1x1)
Floor Set €20 - 2 Large Square floors (2x2),2 rectangular floor (2x1), 4 small floors (1x1), 24 half trims, 12 Long trim, 44 connectors and fillers
Ramp set - €15 - 1 ramp (in 3 parts)
Ladders - €10 - 6 ladders (2 parts each)

The 5 sets above = 1 Vertical Set - hopefully they do a vertical set add on as well

Spoiler:


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/09 02:16:45


Post by: Miguelsan


I wish the floors weren't so future city themed. Kazumi temple and Eternal Cathedral need slabs.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/10 22:17:35


Post by: DaveC


€59 option added 1 Terrain set and 1 SG - good to see a cheaper buy in option no floors though

Spoiler:




Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/10 22:37:07


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


That lite pledge is a great idea. If the stretch goals are anything like they were in the past, you're still going to get a fair amount of plastic when all is said and done.
It's a nice way to sample a different flavor of terrain too.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/10 22:38:00


Post by: axotl


How...How do I even purchase anything of theirs? I'm so lost by their backing/purchase system. Is there a kickstarter that hasn't launched yet or something? I can find some of the stuff online already, but like if I want that tank, or these newest releases...where do I go?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/10 22:41:07


Post by: lord_blackfang


Yea if the SG end up being good I'll just spam the 59€ pledges


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/10 23:59:38


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


axotl wrote:
How...How do I even purchase anything of theirs? I'm so lost by their backing/purchase system. Is there a kickstarter that hasn't launched yet or something? I can find some of the stuff online already, but like if I want that tank, or these newest releases...where do I go?


There's a new Ramparts project due to launch tomorrow and the tank should be available via that, and as it's an existing item there should be the option to get it very soon after the KS ends (last time existing stuff shipped within a month or so)

(until recently you could get it via a late pledge on gamefound from the last Ramparts project but that now appears to be locked https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/rampart---stylish-and-modular-terrain presuabably as this new ks is just about to launch)

archon also has a webstore where you can get some of their stuff (it's also now available at a vareity of other online stores) https://archon-studio.com/shop/21-dungeonslasers?p=2 but the tank isn't on there yet, and the KS will be better value for the terrain


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/11 23:29:21


Post by: Siygess


Anyone from the UK planning to put in a pledge for the rapid delivery stuff? If so, I'd like to get hold of two sets of Cathedral stairs so PM me if you'd be willing to help with that. As it stands, there isn't enough here to make me want to jump in with a pledge of my own.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/11 23:37:23


Post by: NAVARRO


Is the plasma silo available elsewhere? Amazing kit.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/12 04:09:10


Post by: Miguelsan


Is it me or the outside EU shipping got aprice hike too?

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/12 08:43:59


Post by: DaveC


NAVARRO wrote:Is the plasma silo available elsewhere? Amazing kit.


No retail release yet it’s only available in the KS as the Gamefound store is locked for new purchases

€93,000 Day 1 €103k so far, slow start by comparison to D&L 2 (Day 1 $235k) and D&L 3 (Day 1 €350k) better than Rampart 2s $55k though. I think this might struggle to reach the €800k target for the Walker. D&L 2 got €890k but started at twice the day 1 funding. Stretch goal value might be key this time.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/12 10:20:18


Post by: lord_blackfang


Yea selling the same 40k buildings for the third time doesn't have quite the same draw as a brand new D&D town with dozens of NPCs.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 11:53:05


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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 12:30:36


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


I just do not see this KS doing anywhere near as well as the D&L, not with the stretchgoals we are seeing.

No doors. Only one floor aesthetic. No new, sprawling miniatures line. Increased prices.

For their sake, at least they are doing better than Rampart 2… although that success may reinforce the idea that they did not actually need those things I wished they had.

I do hope Archon at least sees increased sales of Kazumi sets so that they feel it is profitable to revisit that design line.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 12:49:28


Post by: lord_blackfang


Ya considering how sometimes they seem to be happy to cut molds on a whim on random gak like 3 variant sprues just for extra doors, and preview sprues that just get sent to 20 youtubers and never make money, it's weird how reluctant they are to expand any single idea beyond the bare minimum.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 12:52:00


Post by: Miguelsan


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
I just do not see this KS doing anywhere near as well as the D&L, not with the stretchgoals we are seeing.

No doors. Only one floor aesthetic. No new, sprawling miniatures line. Increased prices.

For their sake, at least they are doing better than Rampart 2… although that success may reinforce the idea that they did not actually need those things I wished they had.

I do hope Archon at least sees increased sales of Kazumi sets so that they feel it is profitable to revisit that design line.

Now that I'm interested in Kazumi I agree!

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 12:55:25


Post by: lord_blackfang


For those considering Kazumi for the first time: it's functionally the best theme cause it's all low long walls instead of a mix of low long and tall short, it's the most thematically unique, and Wargames Atlantic is putting out 28mm plastic multipart Aztecs and Conquistadors this month

But for some reason it's gonna have electric bulbs on the bottom of its floors.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 13:12:39


Post by: tneva82


 lord_blackfang wrote:
For those considering Kazumi for the first time: it's functionally the best theme cause it's all low long walls instead of a mix of low long and tall short, it's the most thematically unique, and Wargames Atlantic is putting out 28mm plastic multipart Aztecs and Conquistadors this month

But for some reason it's gonna have electric bulbs on the bottom of its floors.


If the low walls are as low as cathedral then it's not that functional in 40k unless they are solid walls with zero holes to see through. Cathedral allows you to make LOS blocking ruins thanks to the tall pieces.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 13:22:56


Post by: Miguelsan


 lord_blackfang wrote:
For those considering Kazumi for the first time: it's functionally the best theme cause it's all low long walls instead of a mix of low long and tall short, it's the most thematically unique, and Wargames Atlantic is putting out 28mm plastic multipart Aztecs and Conquistadors this month

But for some reason it's gonna have electric bulbs on the bottom of its floors.


Aliens!

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 14:29:52


Post by: lord_blackfang


tneva82 wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
For those considering Kazumi for the first time: it's functionally the best theme cause it's all low long walls instead of a mix of low long and tall short, it's the most thematically unique, and Wargames Atlantic is putting out 28mm plastic multipart Aztecs and Conquistadors this month

But for some reason it's gonna have electric bulbs on the bottom of its floors.


If the low walls are as low as cathedral then it's not that functional in 40k unless they are solid walls with zero holes to see through. Cathedral allows you to make LOS blocking ruins thanks to the tall pieces.




Fairly solid. In the previous campaign it also had a "solidify my pledge" option that traded all ruined sections for full sections.

OH is there a thing in 40k that walls count as solid if at least 5" tall, is that what you mean? Kazumi still works here, you get the same total amount and 2 stacked high is exactly the same dimensions as two Cathedral side by side.
(although, why are you using the Aztec theme in 40k)


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 15:53:44


Post by: Miguelsan


Because of what I said above. Aliens!

I'm in at the double level, but probably will drop it for the equivalent terrain, I have my IG already covered so not very interested in extra boots, but I'll take all the fantasy terrain I can get.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 16:27:09


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The Kazumi design works for ancient fantasy, Stargate-ish Sci Fi, pulp adventure, or even modern if you pretend it’s a theme park or eccentric’s drug mansion. I hope we get the option to swap out ruins for whole walls this time.



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 16:49:57


Post by: lightfingers


Backed for now , I'm in the market for city terrain.

I just hope future stretch goals are a bit more interesting.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 16:52:47


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


i'd forgotten about that, but since i've picked up another ruin set between ks (needed some more of the snakemen and i had to get more terrain to get them) solidifying this set would be ideal if it's offered

(although wasn't only if you were getting 3+ sets?)

i guess if the stretch goal box is lacklustre i might even skip the terrain totally and just go for the minis pledge but hopefully it will be hve enough fun bits to make it worth having


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/13 17:19:51


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


It’s already got enough sirens for you to make a Stargrave force of Siren Heads. Sweet.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/14 10:53:27


Post by: lightfingers


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
It’s already got enough sirens for you to make a Stargrave force of Siren Heads. Sweet.


I ... What?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 15:27:34


Post by: Miguelsan


For those with the 49$ pledge from prior KS. How much coverage it gives for a skirmish game like KT/Warcry or Deadzone? I supported a basic pledge before the annoying virus but it's been waiting in another country since 2020, and I don't know if the equivalent to 2 lite pledges will be enough or buy a 3rd.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 15:41:51


Post by: DaveC


 Miguelsan wrote:
For those with the 49$ pledge from prior KS. How much coverage it gives for a skirmish game like KT/Warcry or Deadzone? I supported a basic pledge before the annoying virus but it's been waiting in another country since 2020, and I don't know if the equivalent to 2 lite pledges will be enough or buy a 3rd.

M.


1 $49 pledge (€59 in Rampart 3) is more than sufficient for a KT, Warcry or Deadzone set up with a little bit of verticality if you want to build up a bit then get 2 sets.

While I’m here current unlocked SG (until the image update at least) - still along way to go to justify the €35 price tag but they’ve shortened up the SG gaps. The visitor won the vote but won’t be revealed until the end. I hope the car is “full sized” and they don’t scale it down as has happened with some previous pieces.



Current funding



Trending towards a €370k finish right now but will probably get to around €500k which is still considerably more than KS 2.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 16:40:04


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The price hike and lackluster are keeping me from pledging at the moment. I’m more tempted to buy additional copies of previous campaigns’ stretch goals.

Have they offered to allow customers to swap out ruined sections for whole walls


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 16:41:15


Post by: DaveC


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The price hike and lackluster are keeping me from pledging at the moment. I’m more tempted to buy additional copies of previous campaigns’ stretch goals.

Have they offered to allow customers to swap out ruined sections for whole walls


No and I’m almost sure they said that won’t be an option this time but I can’t find the comment - and KS now makes it very hard to find older comments as a lot are covered by privacy settings.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 18:44:55


Post by: lord_blackfang


 DaveC wrote:

I hope the car is “full sized” and they don’t scale it down as has happened with some previous pieces.


My fear as well.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 18:49:10


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


we did get a survey asking about whether we wanted more small bits (like previous SG packages) or fewer large ones,

so i'm hoping the car comes from the fewer larger option


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 19:47:05


Post by: lightfingers


Did we get a survey? Missed that one.



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 19:50:01


Post by: Illumini


They should include wheels to the car in the SG as well. I want it drivable


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 21:42:13


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured




seems to show the car as car size


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 22:01:45


Post by: DaveC


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Spoiler:


seems to show the car as car size


So long as render = actual mini that's okay but the dragon that got shrunk (noticeable in the tiny skulls on the base) shows that things can change from render to mini. Hopefully the funding is sufficient and corners don't get cut to fit on the minimum number of sprues.

Also not liking this 42 SG unlocked advertising they are using - it's 14 SG unlocked containing 42 pieces many of which are duplicates.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/18 23:25:19


Post by: Bossk_Hogg


This one as stalled hard, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose money over the next few days.There's no way it hits the walker and it doesnt really seem worthwhile without that.

I wish they had made the pieces less busy and allowed for the stretch goals to customize the walls themselves. The door piece with the meters/guages looks neat, until your realize that is your ONLY door option (and doesnt even have a door). If they had made them as stretch goal bits to glue on, or use their plug system, it would have been better.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/19 02:35:04


Post by: Miguelsan


 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
This one as stalled hard, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose money over the next few days.There's no way it hits the walker and it doesnt really seem worthwhile without that.

I wish they had made the pieces less busy and allowed for the stretch goals to customize the walls themselves. The door piece with the meters/guages looks neat, until your realize that is your ONLY door option (and doesnt even have a door). If they had made them as stretch goal bits to glue on, or use their plug system, it would have been better.


Compared against what? The previous Rampart KS also grew at a slow pace until the last couple of days. We will see how it ends. I do agree that the walker was too lofty of a goal. 800K€ is the realm of really big KS with a generous amount of sg or something that drags customers in. Maybe if Archon were to offer it for cheap as an option?

M.



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/19 06:52:32


Post by: lord_blackfang


Really should have had at least one more new wall theme, it'd take fewer sprues than the Kriegcake that nobody seems to even be excited for.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/19 08:12:14


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
This one as stalled hard, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose money over the next few days.There's no way it hits the walker and it doesnt really seem worthwhile without that.

I wish they had made the pieces less busy and allowed for the stretch goals to customize the walls themselves. The door piece with the meters/guages looks neat, until your realize that is your ONLY door option (and doesnt even have a door). If they had made them as stretch goal bits to glue on, or use their plug system, it would have been better.


I agree.

It seems like the folks making these are spending more time making cool ideas than building kits and play testing their builds.

This KS seems haphazard, with very little of a “central vision” driving the project. It feels piecemeal and not fully thought out. More like various brainstorming ideas rather than a fully realized concept that merely needs a bit of fleshing out.

There seems to be a lack of consistent support for previous ideas in order to improve them. It all just feels so unfinished, all of the Rampart and Dungeons & Lasers lines. Like they have some great ideas but never really follow up on where the great idea started from.

The sculpts all seem better as bits in a kitbashing bits box and that includes the walls. Which is fine but I would like to have seen them actually completing some things.

An analogy would be comparing the DC cinematic universe to the Msrvel cinematic universe. DC has some cool concepts but never really carries them off and lacks to interwoven intricacies of the MCU that lead to some brilliant payoffs.

I suspect they will find a way to make the walker available though. Perhaps changed to an earlier stretchgoal.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/19 17:09:19


Post by: DaveC


FYI in case anyone gets this

Kamil WarginCollaborator
9 minutes ago
ATTENTION!

A fake Facebook account called Rampart Terrain offers a Giveaway prize. He/she/it is sending the link and asking for registration by clicking the link. DO NOT CLICK IT or answer. Just block and report the account. We're working on annihilating this scamming piece of rocks.




Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/20 02:39:22


Post by: Miguelsan


What a nice fellow. Hope FB shuts them down fast.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/20 07:22:53


Post by: timd


Looking at all of the add-on bits that fit in the holes, I'm thinking for this new theme, mine are all getting the pegs cut off and are getting glued to the walls rather than the columns so that the columns can be completely magnetized.

Edit: Just noticed that the lights and other bits (circled in red) that are shown in the Ruined City color pics are actually from Cobalt sets, not this set.



I've completely magnetized five cathedral sets, so not many of those pegged pieces are getting used. Many of them don't work just randomly placed on the walls.



[Thumb - cobalt plug in bits .jpg]


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/20 08:17:44


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Does that mean you have a bunch of sconces and statues you don’t need anymore?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/20 11:37:58


Post by: DaveC


timd yeah those are cobalt plugs as they haven’t made any City ruins ones yet. I tend to just fill the holes rather than plug them but I build fairly permanent buildings.

Alien portal unlocked overnight. Next is that odd cannon at €224k (now €218k) then 2 large Jersey barriers at €232k. It’s ticking along at about €10k a day with 5 and a half days left.



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/20 12:00:20


Post by: Miguelsan


The sgs are a bit all over the place. I'd say they are suffering from trying to cover all the GW options by offering a bit for orks, a bit for eldar, and so on.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/20 18:47:14


Post by: ScarletRose


Really not a fan of that cannon, it seems too orky compared to the rest of the set. If it was a normal artillery piece that would be much more fitting.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 02:05:53


Post by: Azazelx


I just PM-backed for a Euro. The campaign isn't as compelling as others, and as I like both the models and the "vertical" sets, it's annoying to have to purchase one or the other as piecemeal add-ons - and they're not cheap either.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 10:07:50


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Azazelx wrote:
I just PM-backed for a Euro. The campaign isn't as compelling as others, and as I like both the models and the "vertical" sets, it's annoying to have to purchase one or the other as piecemeal add-ons - and they're not cheap either.


Maybe you can do Vertical as your main pledge option and add the Miniatures Only pledge for 50€? Dunno what that does for shipping charges tho.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 10:29:53


Post by: DaveC


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Azazelx wrote:
I just PM-backed for a Euro. The campaign isn't as compelling as others, and as I like both the models and the "vertical" sets, it's annoying to have to purchase one or the other as piecemeal add-ons - and they're not cheap either.


Maybe you can do Vertical as your main pledge option and add the Miniatures Only pledge for 50€? Dunno what that does for shipping charges tho.


Unless they add the vertical pack as an add on that’s the way to go - pick vertical pack add the €50 miniatures pack separately.

They seem quite resistant to adding a vertical pack add on - a €50 price tag may not cover as you get €90 worth in the pack.

Stairs €10
Ladders €10
2 x floor packs €40
Ramp €15
Bridge €15

If you want all of the above as extras you might as well stack another €99 stater set on and get another terrain pack and SG pack for the extra €9

Apparently there’s a big update coming today - we need something to justify the €35 price on the SG pack.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 10:34:34


Post by: lord_blackfang


Time to panic and do a Mantic style doubling of rewards?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 11:45:41


Post by: Azazelx


 DaveC wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Azazelx wrote:
I just PM-backed for a Euro. The campaign isn't as compelling as others, and as I like both the models and the "vertical" sets, it's annoying to have to purchase one or the other as piecemeal add-ons - and they're not cheap either.


Maybe you can do Vertical as your main pledge option and add the Miniatures Only pledge for 50€? Dunno what that does for shipping charges tho.


Unless they add the vertical pack as an add on that’s the way to go - pick vertical pack add the €50 miniatures pack separately.

They seem quite resistant to adding a vertical pack add on - a €50 price tag may not cover as you get €90 worth in the pack.

Stairs €10
Ladders €10
2 x floor packs €40
Ramp €15
Bridge €15

If you want all of the above as extras you might as well stack another €99 stater set on and get another terrain pack and SG pack for the extra €9

Apparently there’s a big update coming today - we need something to justify the €35 price on the SG pack.


Yeah, both are options, but then again.... leaving my pledge at a single euro and not adding anything is also a very real option.
The stuff in this KS isn't cheap and I can spend on GW and quite a few others with no wait and little to no shipping. I don't really see the vertical pack as worth €50, let alone €90. (though maybe it is - I just can't find a quality full image of everything included instead of small cropped thumbnails!) Regardless, it's not the unbeatable and compelling value proposition that some previous campaigns have been.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 12:58:31


Post by: Miguelsan


You wouldn't be wrong that this time around stuff is not cheap, but when you surf the official GWJP store, and find that 10 walls for AoS are 5000Y, or that a (great looking) statue for the same system reaches 9000Y and it's just one piece of terrain that doesn't even block LoS (also quite probably we will get hit with a huge price incerased due to UK inflation reaching 5% while Japanese prices more or less didn't move) then I'll take the waiting time.

I wish this KS, as Grumpy said above, would stick to one style, develop it further rather than the pasta stuck to the wall approach.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 13:19:29


Post by: DaveC


I see they’ve swapped out the 3rd Statue at €240k for the toxic waste barrels - good call they are much more useful and on theme for the KS. Archons Statues are very much in their own style and I’ve never found a use for them.


[Thumb - 8FBE05DC-8DE6-455C-8535-E69F7908B0B6.jpeg]


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 13:37:52


Post by: lord_blackfang


Wouldn't be an Archon KS without radioactive containers!


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 14:28:18


Post by: Miguelsan


I have more uses for radioactive guck than small statues.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/21 14:46:24


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Toxic Waste? You mean radiation markers for Punkapocalyptic.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/22 02:22:26


Post by: timd


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does that mean you have a bunch of sconces and statues you don’t need anymore?


Still thinking about magnetizing a lot of them...

 DaveC wrote:


Alien portal unlocked overnight. Next is that odd cannon at €224k


Looking a lot like an Ork cannon...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 DaveC wrote:

They seem quite resistant to adding a vertical pack add on - a €50 price tag may not cover as you get €90 worth in the pack.

Stairs €10
Ladders €10
2 x floor packs €40
Ramp €15
Bridge €15

If you want all of the above as extras you might as well stack another €99 stater set on and get another terrain pack and SG pack for the extra €9


Yes, this is the way to go if you want lots of the vertical bundles. You are paying €40 over the cost of the lite pledge for €90 worth of vertical bundle,

Edit: this is incorrect. Now one stretch goals per set. "AND getting a stretch goals set for each pledge, which is not the case with the larger pledges."

The €50 price tag for the Defenders does not begin to cover the €100 cost if you buy them separately, so it doesn't seem to make sense to not have the vert bundle as an add on.

T


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/22 02:42:26


Post by: Azazelx


 Miguelsan wrote:
You wouldn't be wrong that this time around stuff is not cheap, but when you surf the official GWJP store, and find that 10 walls for AoS are 5000Y, or that a (great looking) statue for the same system reaches 9000Y and it's just one piece of terrain that doesn't even block LoS (also quite probably we will get hit with a huge price incerased due to UK inflation reaching 5% while Japanese prices more or less didn't move) then I'll take the waiting time.

I wish this KS, as Grumpy said above, would stick to one style, develop it further rather than the pasta stuck to the wall approach.

M.


Yeah, GW prices in AU aren't much better. I have a friend in the UK who is able to buy for me and send it out, and I got a lot from Conquest/Mortal Realms Magazines. but GW is just one of many terrain options out there these days.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/23 06:07:58


Post by: timd


Would like to pledge more for this KS, but there is no way to add a second pledge without doing a new KS ID. I suppose I could just add money and hope they allow additional pledges in the pledge manager...

T


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/23 12:11:21


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


they will (they've done it on every ramparts and dungeons and lasers project before),

but note that you have to pay postage per pledge so multiples of the lower pledges may not be as cost effective as you might imagine


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/23 18:54:36


Post by: timd


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
they will (they've done it on every ramparts and dungeons and lasers project before),

but note that you have to pay postage per pledge so multiples of the lower pledges may not be as cost effective as you might imagine


Good point...

Redoing my calcs to include US shipping using €59 for the Lite pledge that does not include the vertical bundle and €90 for the cost of buying the vertical bundle components individually. There are still savings but they are lower. Not sure why the savings on 2 Starters vs Expanded are so weak. One really NEEDS those vertical bundles to make purchasing them worthwhile.Think I will stick with one starter plus a lot of add on floors.

Lite: €59 + €90 (Vertical Bundle add on) + €24 = €173
vs
Starter: €99 + €24 = €123: Saves 50€ over Lite Pledge plus 1 x Vertical Bundle add on.

Expanded: €149 + €90 (Vertical Bundle add on) + €28 = €267
vs
2 x Starter: €198 + €48 = €246: Saves €21 over Expanded Pledge plus 1 x Vertical Bundle add ons.

Mass Battle: €199 + €90 x 2 (Vertical Bundle add on)+ €32 = €421
Vs
3 x Starter: €297 + €72 = €369: Saves €52 over Mass Battle Pledge plus 2 x Vertical Bundle add ons.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/23 19:27:12


Post by: lord_blackfang


48h update just went out and the new big thing is this random gak



Seriously, just make one whole sprue of something coherent ffs


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/23 19:34:02


Post by: ScarletRose


The angle of the knees just doesn't work for me, and the face is pretty bad too.

Should've just unlocked the walker, I'd have added in enough for like 3-4 of those.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/23 20:28:09


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Well they've got to do a clear sprue as some of the other stretch stuff is clear so they may as well fill it

not that i don't want the walker much more


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/23 21:29:46


Post by: DaveC


Pass on whatever that is.

Unlocked and upcoming Stretch Goals - the statue made it back in. The SG are even more all over the place than normal - I guess they planned out to nearly €1 million and there's going to be a lot of left overs and incomplete theme sets.



Coming up to €250k with 50 hours to go. The Forcefield 3 is @€256k and the Gun shop sign @€262k.

They need to either commit to the Walker as an add on or admit defeat on it as €800k isn't happening(€400k probably isn't happening)


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/23 21:45:00


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


hmm, need to keep an eye on this and remember to downgrade my pledge to minis only before it ends unless it improves,

at least the previous mixed SG boxes had stuff that added to Kazumi which made the rest of them fun extras,

now it means i've got to spend 50 euros on extra terrain i don't really need to get it


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 03:27:08


Post by: Azazelx


Yeah, it's really a lot of random.. stuff. And none of it is compelling as sculpts, let alone prices. The vertical bundles are the things that interest me the most out of the whole lot (including the core pledges - I've got buckets of unbuilt GW and even Archon terrain at this point, and the verticals would have been a nice thing to cross over, but not at those prices/the way they've been put together. It's very much "well, those would have been nice to have" rather than "I really want those".
Sadly.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 08:03:16


Post by: DaveC


€263,599 38 hours to go

More toxic waste upcoming


[Thumb - 9AB3CE14-28BE-46C8-9EE7-089346D16768.jpeg]


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 08:27:06


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


gak i need those for Punkapocalyptic


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 09:26:28


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


I am really struggling to understand Archon’s thinking on this campaign. These stretchgoals look like they are ignoring the backer comments. I know they have access to feedback I do not but these “human sized” statues instead of minis feels like they are trying to give us minis anyway.

Make the tires people have been asking for so hey can get more use out of the car rather than a gun store sign. Ugh.

I keep hoping Archon will come up with a save the day addition that will help me convince Mrs. GG to back this but so far it is failing. The whole marketing approach seems off. I am tired of the constant “private, private” fluff as well, using that rank is close to insulting. Better to have just said soldier…. But even that would get old. Why have military themed fluff anyway? Just ugh.

The thing is, I find this infuriatingly frustrating because I want to like the product and see Archon succeed but this just seems like a really poor execution of what had so much potential.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 11:59:37


Post by: Miguelsan


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
I am really struggling to understand Archon’s thinking on this campaign. These stretchgoals look like they are ignoring the backer comments. I know they have access to feedback I do not but these “human sized” statues instead of minis feels like they are trying to give us minis anyway.

Make the tires people have been asking for so hey can get more use out of the car rather than a gun store sign. Ugh.

I keep hoping Archon will come up with a save the day addition that will help me convince Mrs. GG to back this but so far it is failing. The whole marketing approach seems off. I am tired of the constant “private, private” fluff as well, using that rank is close to insulting. Better to have just said soldier…. But even that would get old. Why have military themed fluff anyway? Just ugh.

The thing is, I find this infuriatingly frustrating because I want to like the product and see Archon succeed but this just seems like a really poor execution of what had so much potential.


Must be because we are in Space Stalingrad, or similar warzone, and our life expentacy is not going to be long.

But I agree that the planning of the campaign seems to be all over the place. Things that would have picked my interest: More Starcide snakemen/vampires, add ons for Cathedral or Kazumi, different Wolverine weapon options that could be used for IG tanks, city/factory debris (not the alien looking one) usable with Cathedral/Factory...

Sadly, as one of you said before, instead of expanding on a prior idea Archon went for extra sg not featured previously.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 16:30:47


Post by: Myrthe


I'm a sucker for terrain and have gone all-in on most of their previous Rampart and Dungeons and Lasers campaigns. I'm really considering dropping my pledge for this one.

It's a shame to see this one suffer for the all the hype leading up to it. As said before me, the pricing for the singular and uninspired setting along with the few and random stretch goals are making this a miss for me. Too bad.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 18:02:14


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


It's not actually doing badly at all compared to the previous ramparts

its at 2061 backers pledging $309,734 with a day to go compared to 2,976 backers pledged $323,445 (D&L 2)

Dungeons and Lasers has always drawn substantially more backers and cash

not that i don't think they were hoping for more (the walker was clearly aimed at a D&L scale runaway campaign)

I wonder if the speculation in the comments might be right in that they've tooled (or perhaps only modeled & laid out) some of the stretch goal sprues meaning they've got little or no flexibility in what they offer until they reach a 'new' sprue

I do hope the walker does get offered even if we do have to pay for it though, i'll be sad if it doesn't



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 18:12:38


Post by: lord_blackfang


The $300k also got us the ultra mega SG tank back then, now it's 3x as much for the same sort of deal.

With the "one per backer" model out the window (OR IS IT? MANTIC STYLE LAST DAY PANIC SOON) the higher pledges at least look sensible for the first time in Archon history as they finally include double SG, so a 150€ pledge gets me Vertical/Defenders for 30€ compared to 2x 60€ pledge, probably even less than 30€ as I'm likely to save on shipping.

Imagine if instead of all these half-baked too small monopose no options Krieg pinups they opened up with a Leman Russ proxy, for probably the same investment in tooling.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 18:21:51


Post by: DaveC


Walker is in as a €20 add on - good update



The Visitor is a tentacle pit - that could be useful for a few things (Sarlacc anyone?)



Just having a look at Rampart 2 - $323k yielded 42 SGs (actual SG not pieces!) including the Wolverine tank (which is what tipped me over to backing) Rampart 3 has 28 SG up to roughly the same amount (€286k = $324k) - 14 SG less for the same funding.

The next SG is garbage (no literally ) €300k SG - 6 building supports



Spoiler:


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 18:49:38


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Someone broke the glass but left the axe? Huh.


I might pledge for this just to order the add one.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 18:51:23


Post by: lord_blackfang


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Someone broke the glass but left the axe? Huh.


A good metaphor for the last update.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 19:02:16


Post by: Matthew Flamen


I wonder how many people are waiting this out because if they want it later they can just make a late pledge, I'm certainly doing it.

I also find baffling the stretch goals chosen and that from their Empire of Men kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/geeksaw/empire-of-men-28mm-sci-fi-miniatures-collection/description
they chose to turn into plastic the guard proxies, for which there are other options, instead of the not-eldar for which I can only remember Artel selling proxies. And as others have said, the addons to their not-chimera chassis would have been probably a better option that most of the infantry.

I known that they must have spent a considerable amount of time planning this campaign but I can't make heads or tails of it.



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 20:58:58


Post by: timd


 lord_blackfang wrote:


With the "one per backer" model out the window (OR IS IT? MANTIC STYLE LAST DAY PANIC SOON) the higher pledges at least look sensible for the first time in Archon history as they finally include double SG, so a 150€ pledge gets me Vertical/Defenders for 30€ compared to 2x 60€ pledge, probably even less than 30€ as I'm likely to save on shipping.


Interesting. The best direction to go REALLY depends on what you want. If you are Lord Blackfang and want two core sets and one Vertical/Defenders set, Expanded is the way to go.

If one wants multiple Vertical sets, buying multiple starter sets is cheaper, even with the additional per-pledge shipping.

If one wants multiple Defenders sets, you are probably better off going with multiple Miniatures/Defenders pledges.

T


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 22:04:46


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 Matthew Flamen wrote:
I wonder how many people are waiting this out because if they want it later they can just make a late pledge, I'm certainly doing it.

I also find baffling the stretch goals chosen and that from their Empire of Men kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/geeksaw/empire-of-men-28mm-sci-fi-miniatures-collection/description
they chose to turn into plastic the guard proxies, for which there are other options, instead of the not-eldar for which I can only remember Artel selling proxies. And as others have said, the addons to their not-chimera chassis would have been probably a better option that most of the infantry.

I known that they must have spent a considerable amount of time planning this campaign but I can't make heads or tails of it.



They'll have sales data so maybe the not-eldar didn't prove as popular, it's not for nothing that human factions are so common with GW (and other SF games),.... I have to admit not eldar are the one alien race i'm not terribly interested in proxies for as i like the GW ones

just like it's worth a scale model company sticking out yet another version of a panther or tiger rather than something more interesting


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timd wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:


With the "one per backer" model out the window (OR IS IT? MANTIC STYLE LAST DAY PANIC SOON) the higher pledges at least look sensible for the first time in Archon history as they finally include double SG, so a 150€ pledge gets me Vertical/Defenders for 30€ compared to 2x 60€ pledge, probably even less than 30€ as I'm likely to save on shipping.


Interesting. The best direction to go REALLY depends on what you want. If you are Lord Blackfang and want two core sets and one Vertical/Defenders set, Expanded is the way to go.

If one wants multiple Vertical sets, buying multiple starter sets is cheaper, even with the additional per-pledge shipping.

If one wants multiple Defenders sets, you are probably better off going with multiple Miniatures/Defenders pledges.



and it's going to be even more complicated for those in the UK as paying under £135 will mean archon collects the VAT which is cheaper and simpler, over £135 means the courier collects it (and charges you for the privilage £8 if it's RM, more if it's somebody else and an insane fortune it it's FEDEX), meaning it's more expensive so paying 2 lots of shipping could make sense


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 22:15:32


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Someone broke the glass but left the axe? Huh.


A good metaphor for the last update.


Quite a good metaphor indeed.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 22:40:59


Post by: kendoka


I pledged. Mostly for the stretch goal sirens and surveillance cameras


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/24 22:46:44


Post by: Stormonu


I really want this for the city walls, the stretch goals are completely naf on this one.

Debating whether to get another one of the walkers - I already have a resin one from my GSC (counts-as cult Sentinel or maybe a cult Leman), not sure I need another...


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/25 17:25:59


Post by: lightfingers


Last couple of hours.

Final stretch goals are the more interesting ones. Turrets, ruined walls.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 03:18:28


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


We ended up only pledging for a Euro so we can make a decision on whether to spend for a city set or not during the pledge manager. We really are not completely sold on the product yet.

This is the feedback survey comment we sent Archon….

We like Archon Studio products but Rampart 3 has felt like a missed opportunity.

This is why we only pledged 1 Euro so far. We are still undecided on how much to spend.

The original concept was sound but execution has been haphazard and has felt a bit like it was on autopilot compared to Dungeons and Lasers. There just does not seem to be the same passion or interest from Archon. The products, while individually somewhat interesting, did not feel part of a coherent plan from the start. Artistically they were decent but they were not amazing. Instead it felt like it has been items of passing interest to the artists rather than a complete vision.

The lack of doors made the city theme feel odd, especially with floors but no real roofs. Yes, the floors can work as roofs but feel jury rigged. They are better than the previous Rampart platforms but only marginally.

Clear plastic to add glass to the window frames would have been nice.

Not making good roofs and floors for Kazumi was frustrating for us as that is my favorite Rampart theme.

Your display photos made the city ruins look too repetitive, more repetitive than I think they will be in practice. You did not do enough actual builds in demo photos. We found ourselves having to try to decide based mostly off the one render of the three level city theme build showing the vertical bundle pieces. The way the city theme looks in that render is is kind of a bunker, kind of a city building but not really either.

You should have explained the price increase better. People have grown used to your excellent pricing from previous campaigns. We grasp Covid has changed everything but we think folks need to hear it from the folks at Archon in a more personal way. Rampart 3 has not
felt at all as personal as D&L 2 and 3. A 40 year price jump for the minis or vertical bundle feels pricey. More should have been done to explain value for money in that jump.

Whilst I do not want a Mammoth Walker personally it was a good idea to make it an add on.

There were too much overtly Games Workshop Warhammer 40k references. You should try to be more subtle. The trick is to create pieces that can work in 40k but also work elsewhere. Thank you for at least not putting skulls everywhere. Admittedly I was hoping for more Fallout themed stuff so perhaps my issue is in part not being a 40k player.

You should try to design a system to make Rampart more compatible with Dungeons and Lasers. Some sort of transition system.

Please find a way to give folks tires for the stretchgoal car. It should earn you some good will back that was lost by the price increase and underwhelming stretchgoal total. The ability to make the car a wreck or operational is the kind of multipurposing Rampart needs in order to capture more interest in retail. It is the same kind of thing where some folks want damaged walls, some want undamaged walls… sell folks a mix.

More vehicle wrecks of different designs would have been nice.

More quirky signs would have been nice.

Less statues.

Definitely less “human sized” statues. Customers can make those from regular minis. And yes, I know I am sort of contradicting myself on making multipurpose terrain when I say make less human sized statues that customers can instead paint as character miniatures. The issue is you marketed Rampart 3 as a terrain not miniatures KS but then added miniatures… but only a limited selection. A selection marketed as an alternative to the vertical bundle rather than in addition. I know customers can get both but the subconscious message sent by the split option pledge is “get one or the other”. More options is normally a good thing but you need to communicate that the right way otherwise it comes across as misleading or duplicitous.

I appreciate not being call Private, thanks for the promotion to Corporal. You should have just said “soldier” in your “in character” communications. I stopped being a Private over 30 years ago.

To be clear we want Archon Studio to be successful. We like a lot of Archon products but we see so much potential for more


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 03:37:10


Post by: Jack Flask


I'd agree about the scatterbrained theming of this campaign.

I appreciate that they let you choose from existing core sets but really this should have mostly revolved around the new additions to their range (the City Ruins).

I also wish that they'd just give us a "Citadel Skulls" style full sprue of just wall ornaments since most buildings are likely to have a lot of open holes unless you are magnetizing every surface. They even showed some City Ruins with breaker boxes and sulphur lamps that you can only get in the Cobalt Foundry set.

Rather than make people buy a whole core set or stretch goal pack for just a few accents, a whole kit of retinal scanners, wall reliquaries, key swipes, electrical boxes, candle dishes, ECT would go a long way.

I also wish that instead of more legally distinct "not Guardsmen" they would give us Sci-fi civilians or support roles that wouldn't typically get full wargame units. Like downed pilots...
Spoiler:


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 07:52:50


Post by: Illumini


A lot of good feedback Grumpy Gnome. Totally agree that the new design does not look like anything. It is not a bunker and not a building. The over-distressing and detailing also makes it hard to actually make bigger buildings that will not look super silly with the same holes everywhere.

Also agreed with Jack Flask, civilians would have been a lot more exciting. Semi-cheescake kriegers with massively oversized weapons does absolutely nothing for me.

Hole fillers would be nice, but a lot of their previous hole-fillers are just too big or over-designed IMO. They often jut unrealistically out from the building, and you can't really repeat them too much, or it just becomes extremely cluttered with these big jutting things that don't make sense in that many duplicates.

I would love some very minimal hole-fillers, which would also take minimal space on the sprues.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 08:43:49


Post by: lord_blackfang


My thoughts as well.

I got so swamped at work yesterday I couldn't fiddle with KS at all and got stuck with my initial 100€ pledge. Which is fine, I guess.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 09:07:18


Post by: Hanskrampf


I ended up downgrading from the default pledge to the Lite pledge but added the walker tank. Not interested in those minis and the vertical pack is fine I guess, but pretty meh nonetheless.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 15:56:44


Post by: Myrthe


I dropped to 1E to keep my foot in the door but, at this point, it'll just be a donation to the project. The huge price hike alone is a deterrent to my even getting more Cathedral sets to add to the ones I got in the previous campaign. It just doesn't sit right to pay THAT much more for something already developed and produced. I understand cost increases but not THAT much.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 16:02:41


Post by: Miguelsan


I kept my pledge as it was because I have money to spare, but if I were in a tighter spot I would have dropped to just a Kazumi lite pledge or even dropped it altogether. I've already said it several times, but this KS was all over the place instead of sticking to a theme, and maybe build on the prior ones.

I should have used a late pledge before Xmas, but I decided to take the risk, and lost. Alas.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 16:25:18


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Good point on the sci-fi civilians. Look how well Crooked Dice has done with their Colony 87 Kickstarters.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 18:17:57


Post by: Monkeysloth


I think not having civilians in this campaign was fine as it was targeted at wargamers. I think they'd do better putting those into a sci-fi/modern Dungeons & Lasers instead of in Rampart.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/26 18:22:40


Post by: lord_blackfang


A Starfinder, Stargrave & friends focused D&L would be amazing.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/27 00:15:49


Post by: ced1106


Mebbe the miniatures were originally from another sf project, like Archon's Space Crusades (sp)? IIRC, At least one mini from their D&L3 KS, the demon EB figure, was from SC or a previous project.

Unfortunately, compared to generic fantasy, sf has too many subgenres, and it looks like a "generic GW sf" line is still fragmented. Archon also seems to put out what sculpts it wants, but while this works fine with generic fantasy (a goose sitting on an axe!) I dunno about GW sf.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/01/27 11:08:29


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


good points there

The minis are all from their resin Empire of Man KS so they were already 3d sculpted, all they need to do is cut them for sprue production so a lot less work than designing something new



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/02/22 08:36:25


Post by: DaveC


Pledge manager is live invites have been emailed.

Late backer link - only use this if you did not pledge on KS
https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/rampart-third-edition

Update due later today

EDIT Rapid delivery closes 8th March
PM open until 1st September.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/02/22 10:19:26


Post by: Miguelsan


Finally! Time for some creative maths.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/02/22 10:48:22


Post by: lord_blackfang


No rush, I'm not getting anything with Rapid Delivery


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/02/22 12:23:31


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


well thats me done.

at least for now


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Last call for late pledges on Wolfenstein as delivery is just starting, 7 days to get an order in

https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/wolfenstein

you can also get just the (hard plastic) minis without the game (if only i likes the designs slightly more)



Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/05/09 13:08:06


Post by: DaveC


New Update

Looks like tooling is almost done and shipping could be very early

Sorry for the potatoe cam the update is in the video which I’ve screen capped. Tools are done but the image layout shows them better. The car and cannon are a decent size.


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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/05/09 13:25:54


Post by: Miguelsan


Today I was wondering about the rapid delivery. I ordered a Kasumi temple along the new stuff, and after 2 months of silence I was growing concerned. Glad to know things are moving behind the scenes.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/06/03 13:54:03


Post by: DaveC


From todays AMA

- 3 tools left
- space left on sprues so that all minis get custom bases.
- production in July
- shipping starts end of July


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/06/03 17:16:18


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Have they sent out the pledge manager for he a test Rampart KS?


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/06/03 17:17:58


Post by: DaveC


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Have they sent out the pledge manager for he a test Rampart KS?


Yes back in February
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/archonstudio/rampart/posts/3414345


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/06/07 16:53:02


Post by: Miguelsan


Incredible, Rampart is going to ship the new stuff like 6 months earlier than planned. I guess this time Archon went with a longer delay than really needed in case things happened.

M.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/06/07 17:42:30


Post by: lord_blackfang


Yikes, I just closed my pledge.

A modest 2x Lite Pledge with City ruins and 2 Mammoth walkers. The floors and the chibi Krieg babes don't seem worth it.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/06/07 19:20:46


Post by: Bossk_Hogg


 Miguelsan wrote:
Incredible, Rampart is going to ship the new stuff like 6 months earlier than planned. I guess this time Archon went with a longer delay than really needed in case things happened.

M.


I think part of it is that the campaign did poorly, so not many stretch goals ended up being added. The tooling on the floors/walls were already done.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/07/22 14:04:28


Post by: DaveC


AMA 22nd July update

- Rampart shipping starts next week (D&L UK shipping delayed shipping by 1 week)
- Sci-Fi game got sidelined as mini tooling wasn't ready - focused on terrain first. Miniature tech is now where they want it.
- 4 Factions planned - Vampires (Undead inc Zombies), Humans (Renegades), Alien race (didn't catch the name), The Lizard type race has been redesigned.
- Planned to be 32mm scale (CMON scale mentioned)
- Space combat game also in the works
- New Sci-Fi terrain - pros and cons of making it compatible with D&L may be a new system? Jarek feels D&L was better laid out and designed than Rampart but they hadn't planned D&L when they did the first Rampart stuff.

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Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/07/22 14:18:38


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Mammoth walker is going to be able to be built as a 2 or 4 legged version





Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/07/22 14:33:48


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Good idea on the walkers being 2 or 4 legged.

It would be nice if Archon could find a way to reconcile Rampart with D&L. Surely there must be an artistic/engineering solution.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/07/22 15:09:30


Post by: lord_blackfang


Those models have a chance to be moderately successful, I imagine. Remind me of AT-43 a bit.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/07/22 17:18:29


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


If I recall correctly the original resin walkers had the option for the amount of legs as well.

Been a while though.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/07/22 21:00:30


Post by: Sacredroach


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Those models have a chance to be moderately successful, I imagine. Remind me of AT-43 a bit.


Yes, definitely catching a Therian vibe from those dark aliens.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/08/19 14:11:53


Post by: DaveC


AMA 17th August

- Rampart 3 shipping has started
- Pledge Manager to reopen next week (Wednesday or Thursday) for late pledges or uncompleted pledges.
- Expect the plastic minis in the Sci-Fi game (see above) to be larger than the previous versions they released in resin they need to be upscaled for plastic tooling.


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/08/19 19:52:37


Post by: lord_blackfang


Got shipping notice


Archon/Prodos: Rampart Third Edition  @ 2022/08/25 12:45:44


Post by: DaveC


Pledge manager has reopened until 3rd October

https://gamefound.com/projects/archon-studio/rampart-third-edition