Was just thinking of what's to come for the rest of the year and it feels like the release schedule is pretty well accounted for at this point. There are 12, maybe 13 Saturdays left before Christmas and at least ten blocks of releases to come. These were the things I could remember being announced or credibly rumored. Anything else? Feels like a lot given shipping unpredictability/potential delays and that some of these releases are likely to stretch out over a couple weeks.

+ Last Ork releases
+ Stormcast - Dominion kits + Dragons
+ Necromunda: Outcasts + Scenery + upgrade sprues per roadmap
+ Khorne Bloodbowl team
+ Black Templars Box/kits
+ Kill Team: Chalnath
+ Aeronautica Imperialis
+ Warhammer Underworlds Starter Box
+ GSC vs Custodes Box/Codices
+ AoS Chaos Battletome
+ LoTR: Fall of the Necromancer
+ Warcry: Red Harvest
+ AT: Warmaster Iconoclast
+ Battleboxes

This week is all the remaining ork releases apart from the stuff in the Combat Patrol (assuming they get released on their own), right?

There's also supposed to be an age of sigmar chaos book before the end of the year.

There is also the LoTR Fall of the Necromancer to be released

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/21/ardacon-2021-new-witch-king-huge-terrain-kits-and-the-future-of-the-war-of-the-ring/

Warcry Red Harvest may or may not scrape in this year but there might at least be a Tome of Champions 2021.

eldomtom2 wrote:
This week is all the remaining ork releases apart from the stuff in the Combat Patrol (assuming they get released on their own), right?

Yep, this is it, except for the release of the Kommando kit from the Kill Team box and the new Boys/Koptas kits at some point.

 flaherty wrote:

eldomtom2 wrote:
This week is all the remaining ork releases apart from the stuff in the Combat Patrol (assuming they get released on their own), right?

Yep, this is it, except for the release of the Kommando kit from the Kill Team box and the new Boys/Koptas kits at some point.

I wouldn't count on that, monopose kits from Start Collecting/Combat Patrol sets generally don't get relased separately. Just look at the Start Collecting; Slaves to Darkness, or Start Collecting; Chaos Space Marines.

Would it be feasible to update the title to “~12 Release Weekends Left for GW in 2021”, or in some other way indicate this is a thread only about GW releases and not about general gaming releases?

 DaveC wrote:
There is also the LoTR Fall of the Necromancer to be released

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/21/ardacon-2021-new-witch-king-huge-terrain-kits-and-the-future-of-the-war-of-the-ring/

Warcry Red Harvest may or may not scrape in this year but there might at least be a Tome of Champions 2021.

Good call, given that anything previewed tends to be out withing three months it's a likely release.

Just an astounding amount of stuff still left to come!

Potential Horus Heresy leaks that we saw a few months ago never got an official preview or anything from GW, so there's still the possibility of that.

Lots to come out, so little time. But, then it'll all be here before you know it and we'll have a whole new list of things to look forward to.

Thanks for the title change.

The AT Warmaster Iconoclast will probably be out before the end of the year as well

+ Last Ork releases
+ AoS Stormcast - Dominion kits + Dragons
+ AoS Chaos Battletome
+ Aeronautica Imperialis
+ AT: Warmaster Iconoclast - I expect this to release alongside AI in October
+ 40K Octarius book - unveiled a while ago, should be October
+ 40K Black Templars army box - Confirmed as October
+ 40K Black Templars remaining releases - Rumoured as November.
+ Necromunda: Outcasts + Scenery + upgrade sprues per roadmap- roadmap implied November
+ Warhammer Underworlds Starter Box - I expect these to release alongside Necromunda stuff above
+ Khorne Bloodbowl team - I expect these to release alongside Necromunda stuff above
+ Kill Team: Chalnath - rumoured as November. Will probably also include separate release for DKOK / Kommandos
+ GSC vs Custodes Box/Codices - Rumoured as December.
+ LoTR: Fall of the Necromancer
+ Warcry: Red Harvest
+ Battleboxes - Normally end Nov / early December


I reckon the new Heresy will be next summer's big product as we're not due another AOS or 40K edition.

I suspect the Specialist Games stuff might all be done on a single weekend together?

I mean, I won’t swear an affidavit to that like.

Yeah i was wondering about the fate of that big Horus Heresy box set we saw pics of a while back

If the GSC vs Custodes exists, it’ll be another Kill Team war zone. Given that they haven’t even given a date for Chalnath yet, I suspect it will be into the new year for that one.

 Jadenim wrote:
If the GSC vs Custodes exists, it’ll be another Kill Team war zone. Given that they haven’t even given a date for Chalnath yet, I suspect it will be into the new year for that one.

Custodes and GSC is probably going to be like Hexfire, with a battle box and codex plus cards for both factions. Chalnath is the next kill team box, and should be late November, early Dec If the 3 month separation roadmap is accurate. The kill team starter set and release of dkok and kommandoes will probably share a release week with some other specialist game stuff.

 Jadenim wrote:
If the GSC vs Custodes exists, it’ll be another Kill Team war zone. Given that they haven’t even given a date for Chalnath yet, I suspect it will be into the new year for that one.

There are a couple of pieces of circumstantial evidence pointing to the notion that GSC vs. Custodes will be a "Dual Box"

1. This is how the leaked rumor list has positioned it and it's been right so far.
2. GW has confirmed two new codices before the end of the year, one Imperial and one Xenos.

Given that only Astra Militarum and Custodes remain for the Imperium, and that the Guard is also rumored to have a larger wave of new model support, it seems like a reasonable guess.

We'll soon find out!

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 flaherty wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:
If the GSC vs Custodes exists, it’ll be another Kill Team war zone. Given that they haven’t even given a date for Chalnath yet, I suspect it will be into the new year for that one.

There are a couple of pieces of circumstantial evidence pointing to the notion that GSC vs. Custodes will be a "Dual Box"

1. This is how the leaked rumor list has positioned it and it's been right so far.
2. GW has confirmed two new codices before the end of the year, one Imperial and one Xenos.

Given that only Astra Militarum and Custodes remain for the Imperium, and that the Guard is also rumored to have a larger wave of new model support, it seems like a reasonable guess.

We'll soon find out!

Don't forget about Imperial Knights too, but I'm 100% on the Custodes train.

+ Last Ork releases
+ Aeronautica Imperialis (Still waiting on Thunderhawk)
+ 40K Black Templars army box
+ 40K Octarius book
+ Warhammer Underworlds Starter Box

+ AoS Stormcast - Dominion kits + Dragons
+ AoS Chaos Battletome
+ AT: Warmaster Iconoclast -
+ 40K Black Templars remaining releases - Rumoured as November.
+ Necromunda: Outcasts + Scenery + upgrade sprues per roadmap- roadmap implied November
+ Khorne Bloodbowl team - I expect these to release alongside Necromunda stuff above
+ Kill Team: Chalnath - rumoured as November. Will probably also include separate release for DKOK / Kommandos
+ GSC vs Custodes Box/Codices - Rumoured as December.
+ LoTR: Fall of the Necromancer
+ Warcry: Red Harvest
+ Battleboxes - Normally end Nov / early December

Btw aos orruks missing boltboys.

Revised this list following the weekend - aside from FW is anything missing?

+ 40K Black Templars remaining releases - November.
+ Necromunda: Outcasts + Scenery + upgrade sprues per roadmap - "Q4 2021", implied as November
+ Khorne Bloodbowl team - unconfirmed
+ Dungeonbowl - unconfirmed
+ AoS Stormcast - Dominion kits + Dragons - December
+ AoS Nurgle Battletome - December
+ 40K GSC vs Custodes Box/Codices - December
+ Battleboxes - Normally end Nov / early December
+ 40K Tau codex - "Early 2022", probably January due to leaks
+ WHU Blackpowder’s Buccaneers - Q1 2022


Edit: if we assume xmas battleforces go up for pre-order on the last weekend of November as usual, that means there are two other release slots left to announce this month. That would probably mean BT & Necromunda weeks.

Khorne Bloodbowl team is this weekend

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/10/31/sunday-preview-time-to-reap-the-red-harvest/

I've heard rumors and murmurings the Horus Heresy release has been pushed "well into next year", not sure what that means exactly but I don't think we'll see it soon.

I've also been hearing rumors from unreliable/unknown sources that holiday battleforces aren't happening this year... I didn't put any stock in it BUT over the weekend I noticed somewhere on warcom (or maybe it was the livestream) that the red gobbo was referred to as being something ot the effect of "the last holiday treat in store for us this year". I can't find the source now but I know it was through an official channel because it caused me to raise my eyebrow as depending on how you interpret that the implication is that there are no *holiday* battleforces coming.

Fair enough for no Battleforces when even basic products are struggling to get around right now.

We're also waiting for the new Kill Team starter set, with the separate Krieg and Komando boxes. They oddly didn't come out with Chalnath.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I've heard rumors and murmurings the Horus Heresy release has been pushed "well into next year", not sure what that means exactly but I don't think we'll see it soon.

I've also been hearing rumors from unreliable/unknown sources that holiday battleforces aren't happening this year... I didn't put any stock in it BUT over the weekend I noticed somewhere on warcom (or maybe it was the livestream) that the red gobbo was referred to as being something ot the effect of "the last holiday treat in store for us this year". I can't find the source now but I know it was through an official channel because it caused me to raise my eyebrow as depending on how you interpret that the implication is that there are no *holiday* battleforces coming.

I don’t believe battleforces aren’t actually happening. This is the product like edition set (Dominion or Indomitus), which always happens, so no matter the odds GW will put it into a schedule.

As for the battleforces I predict in 40k they put Dark Angels, Sororitas and some xenos, maybe orks and drukhari. In AoS it might be ossiarch, stormcast eternals, lumineth, slaanesh. What do ya think?

Battleforces would be a strange thing to axe since they're almost purely in-house product.

I noticed that Dungeonbowl is a product that will be out this year when reading the Warhammer Day overview page description of it.

“What if you took Blood Bowl and stuck it in a dungeon, complete with mysterious portals, magical treasure, and competing Colleges of Magic all battling to get out with the most loot? You get Dungeon Bowl, a triumphant return to a true Games Workshop classic, coming later this year.“

I’m guessing it will be a Black Friday release. GW seems to like to release boxed games and boxed sets on Black Friday, so that would be fitting.

OokamiEq wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I've heard rumors and murmurings the Horus Heresy release has been pushed "well into next year", not sure what that means exactly but I don't think we'll see it soon.

I've also been hearing rumors from unreliable/unknown sources that holiday battleforces aren't happening this year... I didn't put any stock in it BUT over the weekend I noticed somewhere on warcom (or maybe it was the livestream) that the red gobbo was referred to as being something ot the effect of "the last holiday treat in store for us this year". I can't find the source now but I know it was through an official channel because it caused me to raise my eyebrow as depending on how you interpret that the implication is that there are no *holiday* battleforces coming.

I don’t believe battleforces aren’t actually happening. This is the product like edition set (Dominion or Indomitus), which always happens, so no matter the odds GW will put it into a schedule.

As for the battleforces I predict in 40k they put Dark Angels, Sororitas and some xenos, maybe orks and drukhari. In AoS it might be ossiarch, stormcast eternals, lumineth, slaanesh. What do ya think?

Since orks got love this year, I bet one of the AoS ones will be some combo of Orks.

I feel like Sororitas and Lumineth are still too new? It takes about 2 years for new releases to be eligible for xmas battleforces.

 Sabotage! wrote:
I noticed that Dungeonbowl is a product that will be out this year when reading the Warhammer Day overview page description of it.

“What if you took Blood Bowl and stuck it in a dungeon, complete with mysterious portals, magical treasure, and competing Colleges of Magic all battling to get out with the most loot? You get Dungeon Bowl, a triumphant return to a true Games Workshop classic, coming later this year.“

I’m guessing it will be a Black Friday release. GW seems to like to release boxed games and boxed sets on Black Friday, so that would be fitting.

That's when Blood Bowl came out last year

The Heresy/Siege of Terra box hasn't been pushed back, it was always planned for next year.

Yeah keep in mind that the last time we had a similar leak of product photos like this, it was for Indomitus and that didn't come out until 8-9 months later. Mortation's leak was almost a full year before release.

I wonder if we really should even use the word 'leak', i mean, i think it's pretty apparent by now most of these things are leaked by GW.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I wonder if we really should even use the word 'leak', i mean, i think it's pretty apparent by now most of these things are leaked by GW.

It isn't.

I've been involved in a bunch of things that the internet was very insistent was a controlled leak at the time, and they definitely weren't and people were definitely fired over them.

Controlled leaks are very rare.

 Tastyfish wrote:
We're also waiting for the new Kill Team starter set, with the separate Krieg and Komando boxes. They oddly didn't come out with Chalnath.

Those were confirmed as coming out next year.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I wonder if we really should even use the word 'leak', i mean, i think it's pretty apparent by now most of these things are leaked by GW.

Yeah, because GW just loooves to kill sales of stuff they currently have on offer, especially really expensive FW gak (seeing plastic Mk VI look vastly better than resin range and will be far cheaper, too) for close to a year pointlessly, eh?

 The Phazer wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I wonder if we really should even use the word 'leak', i mean, i think it's pretty apparent by now most of these things are leaked by GW.

It isn't.

I've been involved in a bunch of things that the internet was very insistent was a controlled leak at the time, and they definitely weren't and people were definitely fired over them.

Controlled leaks are very rare.

Then we have to assume leakers are either worst photographers in the history of the humankind or are deliberately doing bad photos. With even bad cameras of these days you have to screw photo pretty damn spectacularly bad(more like intentionally bad) to get as lousy photos as these leaks tend to be.

tneva82 wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I wonder if we really should even use the word 'leak', i mean, i think it's pretty apparent by now most of these things are leaked by GW.

It isn't.

I've been involved in a bunch of things that the internet was very insistent was a controlled leak at the time, and they definitely weren't and people were definitely fired over them.

Controlled leaks are very rare.

Then we have to assume leakers are either worst photographers in the history of the humankind or are deliberately doing bad photos. With even bad cameras of these days you have to screw photo pretty damn spectacularly bad(more like intentionally bad) to get as lousy photos as these leaks tend to be.

High zoom shot at something 3 desks over without trying to draw attention

Dudeface wrote:
High zoom shot at something 3 desks over without trying to draw attention

yeah, with a 3 year old <100€ phone

of course it must be the same person each time as it is unlikley that all those who are able to leak have bad cameras

 kodos wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
High zoom shot at something 3 desks over without trying to draw attention

yeah, with a 3 year old <100€ phone

of course it must be the same person each time as it is unlikley that all those who are able to leak have bad cameras

Yes, because of course every time there's a leak it's from people who could otherwise have crowded round the unreleased item in front of their managers cheering as they take professional level photos with perfect lighting and bragging about leaking it online.

New Warmaster starter set

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Battleforces would be a strange thing to axe since they're almost purely in-house product.

If they can't get the boxes from china?

they could make them direct only and white box them but that would generate a lot of bad feeling with the distributors and independant stores so i could see them just dropping them for a year especially if they're as short on product as they seem to be and dropping them frees up casting time for all the new releases in the latter half of the year

edit: i supose they could white box for distribution, but i don't recall them doing that and i'm not sure brick and mortar stores would be happy with a bunch of blank boxes taking up shelf space without saying what was inside (online would work ok though)

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I feel like Sororitas and Lumineth are still too new? It takes about 2 years for new releases to be eligible for xmas battleforces.

GW has released this class of Battleforce for the last five years, and have released a total of 26 battleforces in that period. The first two years only had four 40K SKUs before bumping up to six in 2019. Here is the breakdown:

Tau: 4
Marines: 2
Tyranids: 2
Adeptus Mechanicus: 2
Necrons: 2
Space Wolves: 2
Astra Militarum: 2
CSM: 2
Imperial Fists: 1
Craftworlds: 1
Drukhari: 1
DeathWatch: 1
GSC: 1
Orks: 1
Death Guard 1
Blood Angels1

I'd wager heavily that we'll see:

+ Primaris – Heavy Intercessors, Eradicators, Servo turret, maybe IH themed
+ Primaris – Bike/landspeeder assortment, maybe DA or WS themed

Beyond that, all of these would be relatively fresh additions.

+ Orks – SpeekFreeks, All six of the buggies
+ Genestealer Cult – bikes, dune buggies, and some heroes.
+ Eldar – wouldn't be shocked to see banshees and wraiths, or maybe a Ynarri hodgepodge
+ Adepta Sororitas – Could honestly be anything
+ Custodes – A mix of anything.

Chaos options seem like either Thousand Sons, or maybe a Chaos Demon pupu platter, though that could be one of the AoS slots.

That said, given past performance, don't be shocked to see another Tau assortment :-)

As for AoS, Lumineth and Ossiarch seem like good bets, both have broad plastic ranges and are far enough from original releases.

What do you all think?

 kodos wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
High zoom shot at something 3 desks over without trying to draw attention

yeah, with a 3 year old <100€ phone

of course it must be the same person each time as it is unlikley that all those who are able to leak have bad cameras

So you really think GW has an elaborate potato camera leak program to supplement Warhammer Community, including the Rumor Engine, and their Previews?

I'm not buying that.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I wonder if we really should even use the word 'leak', i mean, i think it's pretty apparent by now most of these things are leaked by GW.

Is easy to see when something is an intended leak or it isnt.

If GW acknowledges it in a couple days, or it was intended, or it was so close to release to not matter.

But when you have stuff like this, or mortarion, or primaris, and they go radio silent for months and months... then that was the good gak.

eldomtom2 wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
We're also waiting for the new Kill Team starter set, with the separate Krieg and Komando boxes. They oddly didn't come out with Chalnath.

Those were confirmed as coming out next year.

When? I don't think I've seen anything with even a vague date. Other than assuming it was within 3 months of GenCon.

 Tastyfish wrote:

eldomtom2 wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
We're also waiting for the new Kill Team starter set, with the separate Krieg and Komando boxes. They oddly didn't come out with Chalnath.

Those were confirmed as coming out next year.

When? I don't think I've seen anything with even a vague date. Other than assuming it was within 3 months of GenCon.

Yeah...I haven't seen anything beyond this article which was the GenCon hype page.

Not sure when the list was last updated, but following what's been confirmed today for pre-order next week, the remaining Black Templar kits and the Blood Bowl Kroxigor can be crossed off.

Here's what it looks like. After the Templars, there are four release weekends, maximum before Christmas.

Here's what's remaining in 2021:

+ 40K Black Templars remaining releases
+ Khorne Bloodbowl team/Kroxigor
+ Necromunda: Outcasts + Scenery
+ Dungeonbowl - unconfirmed
+ AoS Stormcast - Dragons - December
+ AoS Nurgle Battletome - December
+ Shadow Throne: GSC vs Custodes Box + Codices
+ Battleboxes

It's easy to imagine some of these being doubled up and so it's plausible to see it all coming before the end of the year.

That said, it's kind of wild how many $150-200 products are being stacked up at the end of the release calendar. In the last month we've seen BT LE, KT: Chalnath, and WarCry: Into the Spiderverse. And if this list is right three of the next four weeks will be primarily driven by expensive boxes.

There's no battleforce boxes, per the holiday gift guide.

 Kanluwen wrote:
There's no battleforce boxes, per the holiday gift guide.

No Christmas Army deals??? What is this sorcery?

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
There's no battleforce boxes, per the holiday gift guide.

No Christmas Army deals??? What is this sorcery?

I imagine we should expect to see GW doing online only bundles of stuff going forwards, if they hit the sweet spot on savings they'll get the sales to clear out some stock at higher return than people soaking the christmas army boxes through 3rd parties.

That's a shame.

 Kanluwen wrote:
There's no battleforce boxes, per the holiday gift guide.

NOOOOOOOO!

Hoping that it was just a clerical oversight, but would make sense given the state of the world. That said, it looks like there might be some "web bundles" that offer a discount in the offing. E.g. this Nurgle Bundle is the daemons + mortal battleboxes with a pack of Nurglings tossed in for holiday cheer.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/servants-of-the-plague-god-2021

Retail price is £135, bundle price is £94.50, so it represents a 30% savings and a break from prior GW convention where web bundles offer no discount.

Sadly doesn't look available in the US.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
There's no battleforce boxes, per the holiday gift guide.

No Christmas Army deals??? What is this sorcery?

Supposedly(I think it was DaveC that posted it?), they'll be doing online only deals direct like they've done with these Warhammer Day things.

Best guess(this is from me) is that they weren't able to get boxes printed in time and they've had such weird stock issues anyways this year they opted to do something different.

Fingers crossed it's something like the paint deals they offer in-store, where you get to pick a bunch of colors and get some of them as part of a "buy x, get y free" promotion.

Shameful display. Webstore deals don't do jack for me as GW won't deliver duties pre-paid to me, no matter what they claim on the website.

Kind of surprised that Dungeon Bowl isn’t the Black Friday release and Black Templars are. GW seems to like to release boxed games on Black Friday.

Also Dungeon Bowl is in the Holiday gift guide at 160 USD. More than I was hoping, about what I was expecting.

 flaherty wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
There's no battleforce boxes, per the holiday gift guide.

NOOOOOOOO!

Hoping that it was just a clerical oversight, but would make sense given the state of the world. That said, it looks like there might be some "web bundles" that offer a discount in the offing. E.g. this Nurgle Bundle is the daemons + mortal battleboxes with a pack of Nurglings tossed in for holiday cheer.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/servants-of-the-plague-god-2021

Retail price is £135, bundle price is £94.50, so it represents a 30% savings and a break from prior GW convention where web bundles offer no discount.

Sadly doesn't look available in the US.

I was 100% going to pick that up until I realized there is not one for the US.

 flaherty wrote:
Here's what it looks like. After the Templars, there are four release weekends, maximum before Christmas.

Here's what's remaining in 2021:

+ 40K Black Templars remaining releases
+ Khorne Bloodbowl team/Kroxigor
+ Necromunda: Outcasts + Scenery
+ Dungeonbowl - unconfirmed
+ AoS Stormcast - Dragons - December
+ AoS Nurgle Battletome - December
+ Shadow Throne: GSC vs Custodes Box + Codices
+ Battleboxes

It's easy to imagine some of these being doubled up and so it's plausible to see it all coming before the end of the year.

That said, it's kind of wild how many $150-200 products are being stacked up at the end of the release calendar. In the last month we've seen BT LE, KT: Chalnath, and WarCry: Into the Spiderverse. And if this list is right three of the next four weeks will be primarily driven by expensive boxes.

Chapter Approved should be showing up too, I think.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Chapter Approved should be showing up too, I think.

Hopefully as a free digital document again that actually changes something. Other than fixing the SHAD, the last one was pretty pointless.

Edit: Honestly, I think we need another Big FAQ more than another Chapter Approved at this point. Lots of stuff needs the kind of fixing that gw seems to prefer doing in FAQs nowadays instead of CA.

Last CA was 5 months ago. We are hardly going to see another one so soon.

 flaherty wrote:
Here's what it looks like. After the Templars, there are four release weekends, maximum before Christmas.

Here's what's remaining in 2021:

+ 40K Black Templars remaining releases
+ Khorne Bloodbowl team/Kroxigor
+ Necromunda: Outcasts + Scenery
+ Dungeonbowl - unconfirmed
+ AoS Stormcast - Dragons - December
+ AoS Nurgle Battletome - December
+ Shadow Throne: GSC vs Custodes Box + Codices
+ Battleboxes

It's easy to imagine some of these being doubled up and so it's plausible to see it all coming before the end of the year.

That said, it's kind of wild how many $150-200 products are being stacked up at the end of the release calendar. In the last month we've seen BT LE, KT: Chalnath, and WarCry: Into the Spiderverse. And if this list is right three of the next four weeks will be primarily driven by expensive boxes.

Aren’t we also waiting on Krieg vets and Ork Kommandos?

those were already said to be 2022

 Sabotage! wrote:


Also Dungeon Bowl is in the Holiday gift guide at 160 USD. More than I was hoping, about what I was expecting.

So either £95 or £100, is a pity they can't keep it at a lower price, especially as its got way less models than the £85 blood bowl - the two big guys, two star players and the refs is £70 worth of stuff bought separately. i get the boards will cost more to make, but still seems silly the price is higher.

 Shooter wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:


Also Dungeon Bowl is in the Holiday gift guide at 160 USD. More than I was hoping, about what I was expecting.

So either £95 or £100, is a pity they can't keep it at a lower price, especially as its got way less models than the £85 blood bowl - the two big guys, two star players and the refs is £70 worth of stuff bought separately. i get the boards will cost more to make, but still seems silly the price is higher.

The price will be higher on everything, just look at Underworlds.

Still hoping we get Book of the Outcast and that market place kit for Necromunda. That’d be nice.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still hoping we get Book of the Outcast and that market place kit for Necromunda. That’d be nice.

Yeah I've been ordering Zone Mortalis stuff but I won't start building until I have the Market.

 kodos wrote:
those were already said to be 2022

Once again:
Where?

It's worth mentioning that almost all of our recent releases are ticking the GenCon reveal checklist.

We have the KT starters and individual DKoK and Kommandos and the Necromunda Outcasts and Market left from that event to see release.

Spoletta wrote:
Last CA was 5 months ago. We are hardly going to see another one so soon.

It's been talked about on the competitive streams. No one has directly come out and said it, but it has been implied. They missed the Big FAQ deadline so they need to be doing something. Waiting until June would be a disaster.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Spoletta wrote:
Last CA was 5 months ago. We are hardly going to see another one so soon.

It's been talked about on the competitive streams. No one has directly come out and said it, but it has been implied. They missed the Big FAQ deadline so they need to be doing something. Waiting until June would be a disaster.

They did? When was the deadline for Big FAQ?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Chapter Approved should be showing up too, I think.

Hopefully as a free digital document again that actually changes something. Other than fixing the SHAD, the last one was pretty pointless.

Edit: Honestly, I think we need another Big FAQ more than another Chapter Approved at this point. Lots of stuff needs the kind of fixing that gw seems to prefer doing in FAQs nowadays instead of CA.

They didn't have a ton to fix back then. Now with certain flyers and artillery out of control they have a bigger mess to sort. Most of what needs fixing is points ( ignoring core system wishlisting that probably won't happen until 10th ).




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 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Spoletta wrote:
Last CA was 5 months ago. We are hardly going to see another one so soon.

It's been talked about on the competitive streams. No one has directly come out and said it, but it has been implied. They missed the Big FAQ deadline so they need to be doing something. Waiting until June would be a disaster.

They did? When was the deadline for Big FAQ?

It was "Fall", which I guess technically we're still in that period.

Well got myself to the GW store and got the festive gift guide.

Like said nothing new there as far as I can see apart from the price of the Big dragon set at £95 and Dungeon Bowl at £95 too.
Theres like a weird activity thing with games on this 36 page gift guide about the Red gobbo that if you complete gets you a free Bauble...XD

I hope theres more than just this catalogue for Christmas though.

I think, unfortunately, that this will be a year without the Battleforce sets.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Spoletta wrote:
Last CA was 5 months ago. We are hardly going to see another one so soon.

It's been talked about on the competitive streams. No one has directly come out and said it, but it has been implied. They missed the Big FAQ deadline so they need to be doing something. Waiting until June would be a disaster.

CA wouldn't fix much. It isn't reactive enough.

I sincerely hope in the FAQ.

 Daedalus81 wrote:


It was "Fall", which I guess technically we're still in that period.

Where did they say that?

We had big FAQ updates for 9th in Jan & June this year. I wasn't expecting another until Jan 2022.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I think, unfortunately, that this will be a year without the Battleforce sets.

I think you are right.
Personally for me one of the highlights of the season was checking the battleforces content and comparing them etc. Most of the times great value for your money and would get me exited into either completing my armies or starting new ones.
A shame to see it go and a Christmas without them is a bit lacking.
With that said frees £100 from my shopping list.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 kodos wrote:
those were already said to be 2022

Once again:
Where?

It's worth mentioning that almost all of our recent releases are ticking the GenCon reveal checklist.

We have the KT starters and individual DKoK and Kommandos and the Necromunda Outcasts and Market left from that event to see release.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/10/30/special-warhammer-day-prices-exclusive-miniatures-and-a-bumper-week-for-pre-orders/

You may remember that we announced a starter set for Kill Team during our GenCon reveals. This will be joining the Kill Team range in early 2022, alongside standalone boxes of Ork Kommandos and Veteran Guardsmen.

 xttz wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:


It was "Fall", which I guess technically we're still in that period.

Where did they say that?

We had big FAQ updates for 9th in Jan & June this year. I wasn't expecting another until Jan 2022.

Take this with the usually grain of salt, but there has been a lot of rumblings in the community that we are expecting at minimum an emergency FAQ to deal with flyer issues soon, and that the points changes are expected to drop this year instead of January due to how bad things are right now.

Spoletta wrote:

CA wouldn't fix much. It isn't reactive enough.

I sincerely hope in the FAQ.

Right. Who knows what fresh hell could be visited upon us, but since the problem is mostly contained to artillery and flyers of specific armies it could at least settle things down a bit until more permanent fixes can be applied.

I could see the bi-annual FAQ updates being released in early June and early December. The timing for the January 2021 update may have just been a one-off because they wanted a bit more time to gather info following the launch of 9th. An update six months after Chapter Approved makes sense, just haven't seen anything official about it yet.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I think, unfortunately, that this will be a year without the Battleforce sets.

I think you are right.
Personally for me one of the highlights of the season was checking the battleforces content and comparing them etc. Most of the times great value for your money and would get me exited into either completing my armies or starting new ones.
A shame to see it go and a Christmas without them is a bit lacking.
With that said frees £100 from my shopping list.

Honestly I'm grateful if it doesn't happen. Don't have the budget for it this year, and frankly probably don't need any more stuff until I can thin out my backlog.

Yes, I know I *can* just stop buying them every year, but I won't.

Disappointed if there are not megaforces this year. I guess it’s going to be a good one to chip away at the pile of shame. And for the hobby budget. They always encouraged me to spend more than I would just buying boxes a la carte.

 Shooter wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:


Also Dungeon Bowl is in the Holiday gift guide at 160 USD. More than I was hoping, about what I was expecting.

So either £95 or £100, is a pity they can't keep it at a lower price, especially as its got way less models than the £85 blood bowl - the two big guys, two star players and the refs is £70 worth of stuff bought separately. i get the boards will cost more to make, but still seems silly the price is higher.

Agreed, even if the cardboard costs more, it can’t cost THAT much more (even if it had quadrupled in cost, the previous costs of printing cardboard components were very low), and considering how well GW is doing you think they could absorb the cost. That or just make the tiles in plastic in house or something so they don’t have to worry about printing/shipping/etc.

I will still pick up Dungeon Bowl because I am really looking forward to it, but I quit playing Underworlds over their last price hike to that line up. It’s not that I can’t afford it, I just don’t see the value for that price. They already got me to stop with 40k and Warcry over the last few years. Only GW game I buy now is Blood Bowl. I imagine if they continue to raise prices they will see more and more people leaving their side of the hobby, especially as indie games/smaller studio games are becoming more widely known and are often better value.

 Nevelon wrote:
Disappointed if there are not megaforces this year. I guess it’s going to be a good one to chip away at the pile of shame. And for the hobby budget. They always encouraged me to spend more than I would just buying boxes a la carte.

If you're anything like me, there's always last years to crack open and actually get to work on!

(gak, it's gonna be a weird Christmas!)

 Scrub wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Disappointed if there are not megaforces this year. I guess it’s going to be a good one to chip away at the pile of shame. And for the hobby budget. They always encouraged me to spend more than I would just buying boxes a la carte.

If you're anything like me, there's always last years to crack open and actually get to work on!

(gak, it's gonna be a weird Christmas!)

Last year I picked up the tyranid one. Built and painted 3 units out of it, one primed and ready, and the genestealers are on the “eventually” pile.

Was looking forward to a marine one as I still need a chunk of bodies to fill out my primaris battle company. But I have enough battle-brothers primed to keep me painting in 2022, so hopefully next year will see a useful box for me. No rush.

 Nevelon wrote:
Disappointed if there are not megaforces this year. I guess it’s going to be a good one to chip away at the pile of shame. And for the hobby budget. They always encouraged me to spend more than I would just buying boxes a la carte.

Ironically this is the first year in a long time that I was looking for one. My older armies are well established so I've never really been tempted to buy £100+ of stuff in one go for them, but this summer I started with Orks and deliberately stopped buying at <1500pts in case an xmas box was released. Might also have been tempted for a GSC box with the codex out almost at the same time.

Hoping for a Adeptus Titanicus Knightforce bundle for christmas. That at least would be something after a year of mostly disappointing releases.

 xttz wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Disappointed if there are not megaforces this year. I guess it’s going to be a good one to chip away at the pile of shame. And for the hobby budget. They always encouraged me to spend more than I would just buying boxes a la carte.

Ironically this is the first year in a long time that I was looking for one. My older armies are well established so I've never really been tempted to buy £100+ of stuff in one go for them, but this summer I started with Orks and deliberately stopped buying at <1500pts in case an xmas box was released. Might also have been tempted for a GSC box with the codex out almost at the same time.

When building up my nids, I made sure not to buy anything I wouldn’t want duplicates of, just in case it showed up in the big box. It’s more of a casual/fun project, so I don’t want to get too spammy. The double-dose of stealers in last year’s box was a bit more than I wanted, but they are basically free in there, so whatever.

Similar to why I’m not picking up a box or two of basic Intercessors for my company. At some point, they are going to be in a bundle. I was just hopeing it could be this year’s.

I had a completely baseless hope for a terrain battleforce.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I had a completely baseless hope for a terrain battleforce.

That would be useful for the dude that brought nothing but Fortifications and Assassins to a tournament.

This year's Princept maniple was the best deal they've ever done imo. I bought a couple and still regret not buying three (kinda stupid since I have enough of everything in the Princept box, but I would have still done it anyway had it not been released alongside the Warmaster, it was just such a great deal).

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I had a completely baseless hope for a terrain battleforce.

I think, deep down, we all hope for terrain battleforces.

Spoletta wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Spoletta wrote:
Last CA was 5 months ago. We are hardly going to see another one so soon.

It's been talked about on the competitive streams. No one has directly come out and said it, but it has been implied. They missed the Big FAQ deadline so they need to be doing something. Waiting until June would be a disaster.

CA wouldn't fix much. It isn't reactive enough.

I sincerely hope in the FAQ.

Agreed. The most we'll get out of CA is points changes and adjustments to secondaries, and there's more that needs fixing than that. We need a FAQ.

Daedalus81 wrote:

Spoletta wrote:

CA wouldn't fix much. It isn't reactive enough.

I sincerely hope in the FAQ.

Right. Who knows what fresh hell could be visited upon us, but since the problem is mostly contained to artillery and flyers of specific armies it could at least settle things down a bit until more permanent fixes can be applied.

There's more that needs fixing than some artillery and flyers. For one, they need to make terrain that isn't OBSCURING actually useful. Right now it isn't, and gw knows that, because their own tournament tables just spam OBSCURING everywhere. And there's still some basic unit rules and faction specific stuff that needs fixing, and all of that requires a FAQ, not a CA.

Here's what's remaining in 2021. The 11th and 18th are the final release Saturdays of the year:

+ Necromunda: Outcasts + Scenery
+ Dungeonbowl
+ AoS Stormcast - Dragons
+ Necromunda: Outcasts + Scenery
+ AoS Nurgle Battletome
+ Shadow Throne: GSC vs Custodes Box
+ Battleboxes

Thanks for doing this!