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Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 12:12:12


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


It beggiiiiiiins! And here is a handy link to Warboss Kurgan, who rather helpfully compiles every existing Rumour Engine, solved or not.

4th January 2022



Chaos Knight, Energy Whip CCW. Confirmed.

11th January 2022



Possibly the rear of a Chaos Knight? The big class, with the double reactor. SOLVED! Honking great truck for Necromunda Ash Wastes.

18 January 2022



Wheely good. SOLVED! Honking great truck for Necromunda Ash Wastes. Beep beep!

27 January 2022



Antennae. Mecha Tyranids confirmed. Ash Wastes scenery confirmed.

8 February 2022



Necromunda luggage. Ash Wastes scenery confirmed.

15 February 2022



22 February 2022



1 March 2022



8 March 2022



15 March 2022

Rough Rider Bang Stick



22 March 2022

Kinky Boots. Solved. It’s a Kroot! Chirp chirp.





5 April 2022



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26 April 2022



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28 June 2002



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Swiss Army Squig



27 September 2022



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Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 12:25:56


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


I prefer to think of them as the twin tails of a monstrous skaven stormvermin unit (even if i'm wrong)


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 12:33:49


Post by: xttz


Page 1 reference:

https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 12:36:45


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’ll that to the OP!


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 12:37:22


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Literally just a zoomed-out version of the one from March last year.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 13:21:25


Post by: Ohman


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Literally just a zoomed-out version of the one from March last year.


I think they go together like this:

Spoiler:


Or maybe it's just the same object seen from the other side. Either way, Chaos Knight seems likely.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 13:25:46


Post by: lord_blackfang


Seems to be unanimous, Chaos Knight sized power scourge or whatever they're called now



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 13:37:42


Post by: Segersgia


I still am on the verge of believing that Chaos will also get more Daemon Engines at some point.

Solely because of that Echoes of Awakening thing from Psychic Awakening.

This rumour engine makes me believe that more now.

(unless it something related to the new Renegade Knights)


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 13:53:20


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Here’s the Epic scale original for context.



Thanks, eBay. Thabay.


[Thumb - 76B4FBD4-CF38-4CB0-8A30-D21B1611B1F3.png]


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 13:57:43


Post by: Dudeface


My only issue thought process wise, is what will a knight sized power scourge offer? Traditionally they've been a multi-attack s:user D1 power weapon so far. Unless this gives a knight 5/6 attacks per attack I'm struggling to see a niche, even then I'm not sold on the idea.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 13:58:14


Post by: Gert


New CSM Death Squid confirmed.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 14:08:19


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Dudeface wrote:
My only issue thought process wise, is what will a knight sized power scourge offer? Traditionally they've been a multi-attack s:user D1 power weapon so far. Unless this gives a knight 5/6 attacks per attack I'm struggling to see a niche, even then I'm not sold on the idea.


If I’m right and it’s specifically an Energy Whip, it’s intended to fry the crew of opposing vehicles by surging their feeds and that with energy. In Adeptus Titanicus, it easily fried MIU’s specifically, and was pretty nasty as a result.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 14:10:39


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I went through that whole Rumour Engine list. It's amazing how long some of them took to solve, some just recently (the Inquisitor and the emaciated 'Orc'). There are some on there that still haven't been solved from ages ago.

Dudeface wrote:
My only issue thought process wise, is what will a knight sized power scourge offer? Traditionally they've been a multi-attack s:user D1 power weapon so far. Unless this gives a knight 5/6 attacks per attack I'm struggling to see a niche, even then I'm not sold on the idea.
When in doubt: Mortal Wounds.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 14:15:20


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I went through that whole Rumour Engine list. It's amazing how long some of them took to solve, some just recently (the Inquisitor and the emaciated 'Orc'). There are some on there that still haven't been solved from ages ago.

Dudeface wrote:
My only issue thought process wise, is what will a knight sized power scourge offer? Traditionally they've been a multi-attack s:user D1 power weapon so far. Unless this gives a knight 5/6 attacks per attack I'm struggling to see a niche, even then I'm not sold on the idea.
When in doubt: Mortal Wounds.


The oldest one is this, from March 2020.
Like, all the possible hype one could get from said pic died down well over a year ago, come on, what's the point of teasing something that's not gonna be revealed for years.

[Thumb - 2020-03-17.jpg]


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 14:34:09


Post by: chaos0xomega


I'm still holding out hope for a Defiler resculpt. We're also still waiting for a standalone Venomcrawler kit...

And that unsolved rumor engine reminds me a lot of the Master of Possessions staff from Shadowspear, wouldn't be surprised if that was from the standalone sculpt version of the character and they just haven't got around to releasing it yet.

Ohmans composite seems to fit together nicely too.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 14:38:32


Post by: H.B.M.C.


The Master of Possessions is a standalone character. The fact that they haven't just put this into a clampack is bizarre.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 14:39:51


Post by: Arbitrator


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Master of Possessions is a standalone character. The fact that they haven't just put this into a clampack is bizarre.

To get you to by the SC if you want him.

They'll probably get a separate release when the Combat Patrol's out, assuming he's not included in it.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 15:22:34


Post by: Chuckles_616


 Arbitrator wrote:

To get you to by the SC if you want him.

Well, that strategy definitely worked on me


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 19:54:12


Post by: Marshal Loss


Hope: Defiler
Expectation: Chaos Knight


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/04 20:02:15


Post by: chaos0xomega


It is?? I thought it shared the sprue with the big Possessed guys, my bad.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 13:44:09


Post by: DaveC


Oldest unsolved is from this years WH+ AoS mini - probably a Chaos Sorcerer







Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 13:53:08


Post by: JWBS




Chaos Terminator I suppose


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 14:01:20


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


And lo, the oldest unsolved Rumour Engine turns out to be a... one-off WH+ exclusive.

How anticlimactic.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 14:48:32


Post by: DreadfullyHopeful


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
And lo, the oldest unsolved Rumour Engine turns out to be a... one-off WH+ exclusive.

How anticlimactic.


E-bay here we go I guess ...?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 15:11:04


Post by: grahamdbailey


JWBS wrote:


Chaos Terminator I suppose


Am I imagining things, or does it look like a Saturnine termie?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 15:37:23


Post by: lord_blackfang


Looks like a regular old bloated-up-for-no-good-reason CSM hero.

Tho there might be an alternate universe somehwre where life is good and this is Perturabo
Spoiler:


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 15:38:12


Post by: GaroRobe


Bloated from chaos, obviously. It’s a known side effect.


Warp dust? Not even once


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 15:43:03


Post by: JWBS



Shoulders extending way too far above his head for standard marine plate. Also, people reckon it's this guy. It fits, there's a silhouette of the chainfist in the vid.




Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 15:57:32


Post by: grahamdbailey


JWBS wrote:

Shoulders extending way too far above his head for standard marine plate. Also, people reckon it's this guy. It fits, there's a silhouette of the chainfist in the vid.




That's actually a good call, as GW DO seem to be, currently, trying to turn every pice of classic Mark Gibbons into a miniature!


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 15:59:10


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


JWBS wrote:

Shoulders extending way too far above his head for standard marine plate. Also, people reckon it's this guy. It fits, there's a silhouette of the chainfist in the vid.




Did he sacrifice his torso to the Chaos Gods?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 16:25:15


Post by: Apologist


Given the Squat Killteam rumour, is it of note that the heel of this (apparent) bionic leg matches the styling of what looks like a foot at the top of the image here?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 17:13:16


Post by: Segersgia


I think that was discussed before and seen as a possibility when that specific image came out.

I do wonder however why it is seemingly standing on floating rocks...


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 17:18:30


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Segersgia wrote:
I think that was discussed before and seen as a possibility when that specific image came out.

I do wonder however why it is seemingly standing on floating rocks...


Squat Psyker


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/05 17:26:31


Post by: Segersgia


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Segersgia wrote:
I think that was discussed before and seen as a possibility when that specific image came out.

I do wonder however why it is seemingly standing on floating rocks...


Squat Psyker


So... A living ancestor


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 12:25:32


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik




Want to say rear of a Chaos Knight? But the bottom bit doesn’t look like hips.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oooh…outside chance of an updated Defiler maybe?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 12:34:05


Post by: silverstu


Squat vehicle ?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 12:34:22


Post by: xttz


My first guess was the rumoured new IG tank, but defiler looks like it's a better fit


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 12:39:56


Post by: zamerion


top right has a letter or number written with "paint"

so I see it as something more "human"

imperial guard or even some necromunda


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 12:44:06


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


It doesn't look like the current Chaos Knight, so it's probably not that


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:00:02


Post by: DreadfullyHopeful


Yeah wouldn't bet on anything Chaosy.

Maybe another piece of this ?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:17:28


Post by: Oguhmek


On the Krieg decal sheet that comes with Kill Team Octarius, there is a vehicle "Krieg" decal that looks very much like the painted letter in that image. Can be a "K".


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:18:49


Post by: lord_blackfang


100% not Chaos, it would have chaos stars all over those hatches


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:21:12


Post by: Not Online!!!


zamerion wrote:
top right has a letter or number written with "paint"

so I see it as something more "human"

imperial guard or even some necromunda


Maybee out there but Stalk tank?
Considering "chaos Cultists" are something that was also rumored reliably?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:22:01


Post by: vim_the_good


That is a letter 'K' stenciled on the top right of the image. This looks very human and very Imperial to me. It also looks like a vertical surface going by the rust drips.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:24:06


Post by: xttz


 vim_the_good wrote:
That is a letter 'K' stenciled on the top right of the image. This looks very human and very Imperial to me. It is also the side of something going by the rust drips.


Looking forward to the new guard regiment, Kadians


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:29:27


Post by: Kanluwen


It could be a piece of scenery...

There's decals for Minefields and Trenches on the DKoK transfer sheet.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:30:13


Post by: JSG


It's the monthly GSC release.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:30:28


Post by: Shadow Walker


Never seen before Krieg assault vehicle = IG are getting their notLand Raider.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:32:31


Post by: Kanluwen


Naaah...the rumored Guard vehicle is "between a Leman Russ and Baneblade" for size. Purportedly it's also not new to the lore.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 13:36:34


Post by: Platuan4th


 Kanluwen wrote:
Naaah...the rumored Guard vehicle is "between a Leman Russ and Baneblade" for size. Purportedly it's also not new to the lore.


I wouldn't be sad to get a plastic Macharius.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 14:03:19


Post by: Dysartes


 lord_blackfang wrote:
100% not Chaos, it would have chaos stars all over those hatches

I mean, you do have eight latches around those circular hatches which are located in the right spots for a Chaos star...


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 14:22:44


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Dysartes wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
100% not Chaos, it would have chaos stars all over those hatches

I mean, you do have eight latches around those circular hatches which are located in the right spots for a Chaos star...


That's my point, it's a perfect place to put a star, and they didn't.

Perfect enough to maybe be an intentional spot for a Chaos version later tho. We are rumoured to get traitor units this year.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 14:33:43


Post by: Tastyfish


 Platuan4th wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Naaah...the rumored Guard vehicle is "between a Leman Russ and Baneblade" for size. Purportedly it's also not new to the lore.


I wouldn't be sad to get a plastic Macharius.


I think the Gorgon is more classic Krieg, though those bits look more like bull bars than the front hatch of one of them.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 14:35:34


Post by: Kanluwen


 Tastyfish wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Naaah...the rumored Guard vehicle is "between a Leman Russ and Baneblade" for size. Purportedly it's also not new to the lore.


I wouldn't be sad to get a plastic Macharius.


I think the Gorgon is more classic Krieg, though those bits look more like bull bars than the front hatch of one of them.

The Gorgon is "more classic Krieg", but the rumored new tank kit is just called "Guard" not "Krieg".

It was mentioned in the same post as plastic Kasrkin.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 14:46:41


Post by: Platuan4th


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Tastyfish wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Naaah...the rumored Guard vehicle is "between a Leman Russ and Baneblade" for size. Purportedly it's also not new to the lore.


I wouldn't be sad to get a plastic Macharius.


I think the Gorgon is more classic Krieg, though those bits look more like bull bars than the front hatch of one of them.

The Gorgon is "more classic Krieg", but the rumored new tank kit is just called "Guard" not "Krieg".

It was mentioned in the same post as plastic Kasrkin.


I also wouldn't say the Gorgon is "between" the size of the Russ and Baneblade considering it's basically the same size as the Baneblade.



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 15:58:45


Post by: The Power Cosmic


30k Guard vehicle! It's floaty!


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 18:36:43


Post by: Jadenim


 xttz wrote:
 vim_the_good wrote:
That is a letter 'K' stenciled on the top right of the image. This looks very human and very Imperial to me. It is also the side of something going by the rust drips.


Looking forward to the new guard regiment, Kadians


I hate you…


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 22:18:04


Post by: Olthannon


 Tastyfish wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Naaah...the rumored Guard vehicle is "between a Leman Russ and Baneblade" for size. Purportedly it's also not new to the lore.


I wouldn't be sad to get a plastic Macharius.


I think the Gorgon is more classic Krieg, though those bits look more like bull bars than the front hatch of one of them.


I agree I think the bottom bit looks like bull bars to me. I feel it's unlikely to be a transport though.





Not identical of course, but the Macharius does have similar large rivets and the front bars.

If the rumour is "not new to the lore" maybe it's something based off that chassis?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 22:22:11


Post by: Mentlegen324


 Kanluwen wrote:
Naaah...the rumored Guard vehicle is "between a Leman Russ and Baneblade" for size. Purportedly it's also not new to the lore.


Where is this rumour from? I've seen this and "new cadians" repeated several times but I haven't found where it's from or what was actually said.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 22:44:07


Post by: GaroRobe


Id love new AM vehicles. Especially if they have a krieg specific body for like a gunner. Not just another Cadian. I'd settle for an upgrade sprue down the line where we can custom tanks, sentinels, etc, so that people who want krieg armies can convert easier


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/11 22:46:35


Post by: JSG


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Naaah...the rumored Guard vehicle is "between a Leman Russ and Baneblade" for size. Purportedly it's also not new to the lore.


Where is this rumour from? I've seen this and "new cadians" repeated several times but I haven't found where it's from or what was actually said.


From the rumours posted on B&C which nailed BT, Tau and Eldar. It's under "without specific date but in the pipeline" along with various IG, World Eaters and Squats.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/12 05:43:12


Post by: ImAGeek


JSG wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Naaah...the rumored Guard vehicle is "between a Leman Russ and Baneblade" for size. Purportedly it's also not new to the lore.


Where is this rumour from? I've seen this and "new cadians" repeated several times but I haven't found where it's from or what was actually said.


From the rumours posted on B&C which nailed BT, Tau and Eldar. It's under "without specific date but in the pipeline" along with various IG, World Eaters and Squats.


The full quote is ‘Astra Militarum with veteran-style Cadians. Two new regiments are also in the works. New Kasrkin and new vehicle, designed to fit between the Leman Russ and the Baneblade.’


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/12 14:31:12


Post by: Kanluwen


The new "veteran-style Cadians" were actually described a bit more in another thread by the same poster. That description ended up being a match for a piece of art in the KT Core Book pg23.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/16 19:42:30


Post by: John D Law


Was this guy previewed before?

[Thumb - 6D456F63-A221-406C-9331-49CC9D995267.jpeg]


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/16 19:44:29


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Yup. Been out, and indeed out of stock, in the U.K. for a fair while.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/16 19:57:26


Post by: lord_blackfang


Ah yes Primaris Lieutenant Shooing Off Crows, a classic


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/16 20:09:20


Post by: GaroRobe


 Kanluwen wrote:
The new "veteran-style Cadians" were actually described a bit more in another thread by the same poster. That description ended up being a match for a piece of art in the KT Core Book pg23.


Does that mean it confirms the leak or that someone saw a piece of artwork and said "this is exactly what we're getting."

Even if its the latter, GW tends to want art to match models, though they have deviated in recent years


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/16 20:39:26


Post by: Crimson


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yup. Been out, and indeed out of stock, in the U.K. for a fair while.

Yet, AFAIK, there still are no rules to legally field him.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/16 21:15:42


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Ah yes Primaris Lieutenant Shooing Off Crows, a classic


I always thought it was "Primaris Lieutenant Immensely Confused By His Own Sword"?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/16 21:35:32


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Crimson wrote:
Yet, AFAIK, there still are no rules to legally field him.
Oh yeah, you're right. This paragraph of absolute nonsense doesn't allow for Plasma Pistol/Power Sword.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/16 21:40:11


Post by: Snrub


I think I had a stroke trying to read that...


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/16 22:00:20


Post by: Flipsiders


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh yeah, you're right. This paragraph of absolute nonsense doesn't allow for Plasma Pistol/Power Sword.


"And if you're carrying a Power Fist(tm), then before you equip your Master-Crafted Bolt Rifle(tm), you must answer me my riddles three!"


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/17 01:35:26


Post by: Voss


 Flipsiders wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh yeah, you're right. This paragraph of absolute nonsense doesn't allow for Plasma Pistol/Power Sword.


"And if you're carrying a Power Fist(tm), then before you equip your Master-Crafted Bolt Rifle(tm), you must answer me my riddles three!"

And that basically writes itself:

What is your name? Roboute Guilliman
What is your favorite color? Blue
What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen Stormraven? What do you mean, a Great Crusade or 41st Millennium Stormraven?
I don't know that! Aargh!

[Later, to Calgar]: You have to know these things when you're a Primarch, you know.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/17 17:00:27


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Ah yes Primaris Lieutenant Shooing Off Crows, a classic


Captain. Obvious (ly)


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/17 20:49:40


Post by: Platuan4th


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Ah yes Primaris Lieutenant Shooing Off Crows, a classic


Captain. Obvious (ly)


Not according to his wargear choices.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/17 21:18:15


Post by: Crimson


 Platuan4th wrote:

Not according to his wargear choices.

It's not a legal gear combination for a primaris lieutenant either...


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/17 21:26:17


Post by: Platuan4th


 Crimson wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:

Not according to his wargear choices.

It's not a legal gear combination for a primaris lieutenant either...


Sure, not in BLUE, but A Primaris LT, yes.



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/17 21:29:33


Post by: Crimson


 Platuan4th wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:

Not according to his wargear choices.

It's not a legal gear combination for a primaris lieutenant either...


Sure about that?


Good point. But that's only for Dark Angels.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/17 21:32:04


Post by: Platuan4th


 Crimson wrote:
Spoiler:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:

Not according to his wargear choices.

It's not a legal gear combination for a primaris lieutenant either...


Sure about that?


Good point. But that's only for Dark Angels.


Yeah, that's why I edited my post. I forgot that they(for some reason) still have Chapter Exclusive Loadouts BS.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/17 22:17:18


Post by: endlesswaltz123


Also a legal load out for a BT Primaris Captain


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:01:41


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik




Wheel Squig.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:07:17


Post by: zedmeister


Elysian Tauros Venator!


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
Yet, AFAIK, there still are no rules to legally field him.
Oh yeah, you're right. This paragraph of absolute nonsense doesn't allow for Plasma Pistol/Power Sword.


What a joke.
Don't you miss the days of "May replace his bolter with options from the following list:

Power Weapon: ......10pts
Powerfist: ......20pts
Plasma Pistol: ......20pts"



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:13:53


Post by: Mentlegen324




Doesn't appear to match the wheel designs of any of the Genestealer Cult or Space Marine vehicles.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:15:13


Post by: Shadow Walker



Gorkamorka! IG ourtriders. Genestealers Cult or... Primaris LT on something?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:17:40


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Imperial Guard, or GSC, i think.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:19:48


Post by: Gadzilla666


Definitely looks like something Imperial Guard. Maybe some kind of new light vehicle? Or a plastic Tauros?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:22:18


Post by: Olthannon


How very interesting. Doesn't look like any wheel designs I can think of. We've already had the GSC release so it's probably nowt to do with that..

Quite a small looking wheel so it would be odd if it was anything bigger than a jeep or a bike.

Imperial Guard maybe? But hwhat?



The Venator has geet big rubbery wheels so I can't see it being that.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:24:30


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


It looks very civilian to me. I’m thinking possibly for Necromunda, if the next book takes us out to the Wastes.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:25:09


Post by: Geifer


Squats. Doesn't match Genestealers and GW went out of their way to keep plastic Guard vehicles on tracks. I doubt they'll start handing out wheeled vehicles to Guard now.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:32:20


Post by: Olthannon


It's weird it doesn't have a wheel arch, similar to the old Ork Trukks.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:32:36


Post by: zamerion


there are many images related to vehicles, right?

Maybe vehicles for necromunda?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:41:12


Post by: Kanluwen






These are the three outstanding Rumour Engines that seem to be vehicle-based. I, personally, am thinking that there is a redesign of the Sabre Weapons Platform concept coming for Imperial Guard.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:44:12


Post by: JimmyWolf87


'Munda Ash Wastes would be great; Squats would be fun. Guard/GSC; fair enough.

So.... Gorkamorka return confirmed.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 13:54:29


Post by: lord_blackfang


The two wheels are completely different huh...


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 14:05:37


Post by: Dysartes



...that's a strange Eldar Ranger.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 14:24:03


Post by: Olthannon


All of it kind of points to a weird off road jeep or ATV. That spells Squats to me.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 14:47:34


Post by: oni


Plastic AM Tauros???



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 16:07:59


Post by: The Power Cosmic


It's too still-in-one-piece to be orks, and too broad and unadorned to be IG or match the other vehicle-type pics we've got. I say terrain for the next Kill Team box. Maybe something for a mission where you have to escort a vehicle across the table.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 16:13:44


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Potentially a trike.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 16:22:09


Post by: Voss


A tire. Cool, cool.
At least it won't be another taurox monstrosity track-track vehicle.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 16:36:37


Post by: JimmyWolf87


Voss wrote:
A tire. Cool, cool.
At least it won't be another taurox monstrosity track-track vehicle.


It is a truly hideous design.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 17:46:44


Post by: soviet13


Slicing Wheels of Zandros


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 18:28:39


Post by: Fayric


Probaly a big robot warrior that can fold itself in to a seemingly ordinary catachan Jeep.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/18 19:40:30


Post by: Tastyfish


That's actually a strange looking wheel, for the inner rim to be as distorted as it is, presumably the outer edge of the tyre is a lot further out than the hub is. So we're looking down on kind of a funnel shape.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/19 10:15:11


Post by: John D Law


January 19th image.

[Thumb - 247E81EC-9579-4E26-8B48-BA631A022180.jpeg]


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/19 10:19:39


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


John D Law wrote:
January 19th image.


That's last year's January.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/19 17:28:41


Post by: KillerAngel


 Fayric wrote:
Probaly a big robot warrior that can fold itself in to a seemingly ordinary catachan Jeep.

I was getting very strong Vietnam M274 Mule vibes, so maybe you're not far off? They were used as mobile weapons platforms...
Spoiler:


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/19 20:32:56


Post by: Olthannon


KillerAngel wrote:
 Fayric wrote:
Probaly a big robot warrior that can fold itself in to a seemingly ordinary catachan Jeep.

I was getting very strong Vietnam M274 Mule vibes, so maybe you're not far off? They were used as mobile weapons platforms...
Spoiler:


if it was a rumour engine for a real life vehicle, I'd say you were spot on.

I just can't see that being in the IG line up. Unless GW are copping out and making the FW regiments the new armies. So Elysians and Death Korps are just in plastic..


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/20 13:14:08


Post by: Theophony


Squat trike


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 12:57:04


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik




Antennae Array. Possibly vehicle mounted, but wild speculation it’s scenery. Specifically ash waste settlement scenery.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 12:58:57


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


I think it's scenery, looks a bit too big to be reasonably mounted on a vehicle.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 12:59:35


Post by: silverstu


Squat antenna array...


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 13:05:03


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Quite possibly.

It doesn’t particularly resemble any 40K styling I’m familiar with at the moment (no Aquilas etc)


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 13:49:55


Post by: KillerAngel


The antennas on the right do have the rings reminiscent of the Kasrkin backpacks. So maybe Imperial / Admech? Cults trying to contact the star children?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 13:51:18


Post by: JohnnyHell


Quite a Tatooine vibe.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 14:10:32


Post by: Theophony


Slaaneshi Titan Options....or a squig...more likely a Squig....Or a Primaris Lt.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 14:20:16


Post by: Valkyrie


Could it be very zoomed in or even the wrong angle, and we're looking at some rather unusual weapon?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 14:21:28


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


If it's a weapon then it's Titan-Sized, judging by the size of details


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 15:00:22


Post by: silverstu


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Quite possibly.

It doesn’t particularly resemble any 40K styling I’m familiar with at the moment (no Aquilas etc)


Exactly - the coils look a touch steam punk and the whole thing looks very clean [hence I'm not sure on the ash wastes terrain]. Could be an array on top of a larger squat vehicle if it's not terrain.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 15:02:24


Post by: Kanluwen


It looks like there's a maker's plate on the left side.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 15:39:40


Post by: Shadow Walker


Weapon for some ''mini'' Ordinatus?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 15:41:01


Post by: Oguhmek


Astra Militarum faction terrain?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 18:38:47


Post by: Olthannon


It has a very ad mech vibe to it, which suggests terrain to me..


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 21:20:56


Post by: Tastyfish


Knight weapon, some kind of energy projector is my guess.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/25 22:41:14


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Comm array of some sort, maybe a carapace mount for the new dreadnought that swaps for that missile array from the earlier engine pic?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/28 09:48:04


Post by: GiToRaZor


I guess the guy that guessed Ash Waste gets all the Points:


IG Rumor Engines back to 0. All Vehicles are probably Necromunda up to this point.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/28 09:54:19


Post by: Shadow Walker


 GiToRaZor wrote:

IG Rumor Engines back to 0. All Vehicles are probably Necromunda up to this point.

... or just that one only


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/28 15:01:09


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 GiToRaZor wrote:
I guess the guy that guessed Ash Waste gets all the Points:


IG Rumor Engines back to 0. All Vehicles are probably Necromunda up to this point.



I suspect it is an Ash Wastes vehicle, but not the land train as there are a different number of hub bolts and gw artists copying from a model tend to get those sort of things right (so possibly a buggy etc with similar wheel set up)


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/28 15:05:35


Post by: StraightSilver


The front of the Orlock land train def looks like this rumour engine though.



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/01/28 16:01:23


Post by: Theophony


Wonder if GW would pull an item from Necromunda to work double duty in 40K. They could make an Imperial Guard buggy with battle damage extra parts to make it look more ramshackle and sell it for use in Necromunda. Then we could have a Tallarn/Elysian buggy with ganger bits sprue to replace parts/driver/gunner. Like the old Imperial and Chaos vehicle sprue. That way it could also be used for cultists with another sprue or just use the gangers as chaos imperial guard cultists.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/01 15:21:21


Post by: aracersss


No early rumor engines?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/01 17:04:08


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Never mind early. It’s late.

You there! Go find it!


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/02 05:58:59


Post by: Togusa


 Kanluwen wrote:




These are the three outstanding Rumour Engines that seem to be vehicle-based. I, personally, am thinking that there is a redesign of the Sabre Weapons Platform concept coming for Imperial Guard.


I'm starting to think this is for the Ash Wastes Necromunda stuff.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/02 06:26:21


Post by: Jack Flask


 Togusa wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:




These are the three outstanding Rumour Engines that seem to be vehicle-based. I, personally, am thinking that there is a redesign of the Sabre Weapons Platform concept coming for Imperial Guard.


I'm starting to think this is for the Ash Wastes Necromunda stuff.


I'd agree for the first two, the bag and bedrolls seems very caravan-y the second one looks like a buggy suspension with a tire hub identical to the Ash Waste trailer's land train.

The third one looks very Space Marine like though. The revolver cylinder style rotary launcher has only been used on the Storm Speeder Thunderstrike to my knowledge. And the (what looks to me like an) optic on the right has the same rectangular blocks mainly seen on Primaris scopes.

I know it'll sound silly given the apparent size but I wonder if the missile array is the weapon for the rumored Primaris missile squad. It'd certainly explain the offset optic.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/02 07:06:36


Post by: Guardling


That third image has hazard stripes, so gotta be Necromunda (or Iron Warriors, but no CSM vibe).
A single dark colour suggests orlocks or palatines...


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/02 10:26:58


Post by: ImAGeek


 Jack Flask wrote:
Spoiler:
 Togusa wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:




These are the three outstanding Rumour Engines that seem to be vehicle-based. I, personally, am thinking that there is a redesign of the Sabre Weapons Platform concept coming for Imperial Guard.


I'm starting to think this is for the Ash Wastes Necromunda stuff.


I'd agree for the first two, the bag and bedrolls seems very caravan-y the second one looks like a buggy suspension with a tire hub identical to the Ash Waste trailer's land train.

The third one looks very Space Marine like though. The revolver cylinder style rotary launcher has only been used on the Storm Speeder Thunderstrike to my knowledge. And the (what looks to me like an) optic on the right has the same rectangular blocks mainly seen on Primaris scopes.

I know it'll sound silly given the apparent size but I wonder if the missile array is the weapon for the rumored Primaris missile squad. It'd certainly explain the offset optic.


The cylindrical missile thing is also on the Mechanicus Onager.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/02 23:30:58


Post by: Togusa


 Jack Flask wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:




These are the three outstanding Rumour Engines that seem to be vehicle-based. I, personally, am thinking that there is a redesign of the Sabre Weapons Platform concept coming for Imperial Guard.


I'm starting to think this is for the Ash Wastes Necromunda stuff.


I'd agree for the first two, the bag and bedrolls seems very caravan-y the second one looks like a buggy suspension with a tire hub identical to the Ash Waste trailer's land train.

The third one looks very Space Marine like though. The revolver cylinder style rotary launcher has only been used on the Storm Speeder Thunderstrike to my knowledge. And the (what looks to me like an) optic on the right has the same rectangular blocks mainly seen on Primaris scopes.

I know it'll sound silly given the apparent size but I wonder if the missile array is the weapon for the rumored Primaris missile squad. It'd certainly explain the offset optic.


I mean bolters are space marine weapons, but plenty of chodes in Necromunda can have them. I really think this is some kind of missile launcher on a mad max car. A lot of the new primairs aesthetic has been very cylindical, so I'd imagine any missile systems they're going to get will not be cubic, but much more like a tube.

Also, no image this week? That's a first.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/03 03:56:56


Post by: MajorWesJanson


The cover on that missile box has the same broken x pattern that all the frag grenade boxes and the hunter slayer missile on repulsors and gladiators do.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/03 12:57:12


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


No rumour engine this week.

Which means the rumour doesn’t exist.

You know what else doesn’t exist?

Fishmen.

Fishmen are this week’s rumour engine.



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/03 13:18:26


Post by: xttz


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
The cover on that missile box has the same broken x pattern that all the frag grenade boxes and the hunter slayer missile on repulsors and gladiators do.


Same as the Dunecrawler's missile option too


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/03 13:25:59


Post by: Oguhmek


That new Sector Fronteris landing pad also has hazard stripes. Maybe this is an AA emplacement that goes together with that big dish that they also previewed.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/03 15:45:39


Post by: Carlovonsexron


I wonder if the rumor engine post was supposed to be the BB Yeti.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 13:02:00


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik




Necromunda Luggage.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 13:04:31


Post by: The Phazer


Yeah, that's got to be a carriage for the land train.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 13:07:11


Post by: Crimson


Damn, those shallow details look terrible. Must be terrain.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 13:09:18


Post by: zedmeister


Ash Waste terrain!


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 13:19:01


Post by: Theophony


Ash Waste objective markers.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 13:19:04


Post by: Olthannon


Yeah got to be terrain, probably linked to the other vehicle ash wastes stuff.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 13:33:11


Post by: Oguhmek


Looks like the ork scrap piles, but for humans.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 13:40:07


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Oguhmek wrote:
Looks like the ork scrap piles, but for humans.


Yea this, a bad, one-piece, no undercuts relief of bits.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 14:16:27


Post by: Geifer


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Oguhmek wrote:
Looks like the ork scrap piles, but for humans.


Yea this, a bad, one-piece, no undercuts relief of bits.


Yeah, it's got to be terrain. Look at those belts.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/08 14:19:41


Post by: Shadow Walker


 Oguhmek wrote:
Looks like the ork scrap piles, but for humans.

Made by da 'uman grotz - da emploeez.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:11:22


Post by: zamerion




Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:13:23


Post by: Dudeface




Looks organic yet I don't think it's the owners head? Something possessed/daemon/slaves to darkness?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:13:41


Post by: lord_blackfang


The, uh, obvously an... yea one of those, you know the thing.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:13:44


Post by: silverstu


That'll be the demons from the big rumour list then...or daemon engine/chaos titan limb?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:16:16


Post by: lord_blackfang


Endless spell?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:17:20


Post by: Dudeface


 silverstu wrote:
That'll be the demons from the big rumour list then...or daemon engine/chaos titan limb?


There were daemons on the big rumour list?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:18:39


Post by: lord_blackfang


Wait I got it, Adeptus Titanicus


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:38:25


Post by: JSG


Angron's tail.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:43:13


Post by: chaos0xomega


Yeah I don't remember Daemons having any pertinent rumors.

It seems obvious that its chaos related in some capacity though, the question is which chaos faction for which game.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:44:27


Post by: Geifer


 lord_blackfang wrote:
The, uh, obvously an... yea one of those, you know the thing.


Daemon golf club, right? You meant to say daemon golf club. And I think you're right!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
chaos0xomega wrote:
Yeah I don't remember Daemons having any pertinent rumors.


We have rumors for possessed humans for Chaos Space Marines, so half-daemons if you will. Might be from those.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:49:24


Post by: a_typical_hero


Got the vibe that this is the end of a music instrument of sorts.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 12:49:57


Post by: lord_blackfang


Pose is really awkward tho.

Could be an instrument, but looks painted as alive, not a piece of brass.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Daemon Primarch backpack vents? Although again, the white teeth make it look alive, not an item.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:02:28


Post by: chaos0xomega


I mean, if I was a daemon I would play a living instrument that screamed as I blew into the reed. Doesn't have to be brass.

It does look somewhat Khornate to me, usually Khorne stuff has spikey horns and such on it, the face looks kinda bloodthirster-ish. Does Daemon Primarch Angron wield an axe? It looks like it could be the end of an axe haft.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:06:48


Post by: silverstu


Dudeface wrote:
 silverstu wrote:
That'll be the demons from the big rumour list then...or daemon engine/chaos titan limb?


There were daemons on the big rumour list?


yeah I think they were mentioned in the "in the pipeline" part along with Squats, World Eaters and Guard.

Could have a living musical instrument vibe..


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:08:10


Post by: DreadfullyHopeful


JSG wrote:
Angron's tail.


I'd go for Angron's axe handle !


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:10:29


Post by: Geifer


chaos0xomega wrote:
I mean, if I was a daemon I would play a living instrument that screamed as I blew into the reed. Doesn't have to be brass.

It does look somewhat Khornate to me, usually Khorne stuff has spikey horns and such on it, the face looks kinda bloodthirster-ish. Does Daemon Primarch Angron wield an axe? It looks like it could be the end of an axe haft.


Isn't the Khornate look kind of the problem? I hear Khorne becomes quite irate at the suggestion "doesn't have to be brass, I prefer to blow fleshy pipes".


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:18:39


Post by: chaos0xomega


lol fair, doesn't mean it can't be an axe haft though.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:20:53


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


It reminds me of the Great Unclean One's tongue head.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:34:30


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’m thinking Jabberslythe for AoS?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:41:48


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m thinking Jabberslythe for AoS?


First thing I checked was Jabberslythe pics. Has a claw on the end of its prehensile tongue, not another face.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:52:52


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m thinking Jabberslythe for AoS?


First thing I checked was Jabberslythe pics. Has a claw on the end of its prehensile tongue, not another face.


Perhaps an alternative option for that?

The Avatar of Khaine didn't use to have a bare head or an axe either.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 13:59:01


Post by: GaroRobe


Reminds me of the great unclean one tongue. Maybe it’s a noodle arm for a possessed model


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 14:03:49


Post by: skrulnik


Scyla Anfingrimm in plastic?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 14:06:50


Post by: Shadow Walker


Demon crew for Underworlds/Blood Bowl?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 17:17:17


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


it reminded me of the wormy base decoration/nurgling things one one of the space marine heroes series 3 plague marines

not identical though


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 17:26:53


Post by: Nightlord1987


Wasn't there an old Daemon prince or Dragon or something with a similar mouth tail type thingie?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 17:27:15


Post by: MajorWesJanson


I'd go with a scorpion tail thing for new posessed


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 18:19:36


Post by: DO IT TO IT


I feel like that could be the handle of Angron's axe or sword.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/15 22:05:28


Post by: Togusa


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Pose is really awkward tho.

Could be an instrument, but looks painted as alive, not a piece of brass.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Daemon Primarch backpack vents? Although again, the white teeth make it look alive, not an item.


*Blow deeply into the living Flute*


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 13:04:08


Post by: Kanluwen



And here's today's Rumor Engine, looking fairly Shrike-y.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 13:07:48


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


It looks more Jabberslythe than Tyranid to me, tbh. Tyranid wings are much smoother, without the stretch marks going all the way to the middle. The joints look somewhat diffrent, and the colours don't seem to be the default 'Nid colour scheme

[Thumb - Slythe.PNG]
[Thumb - Nid.PNG]


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 13:07:59


Post by: The Phazer


I'd go with the Parasite but yeah, Tyranid.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 13:43:25


Post by: Dysartes


I'd definitely go with "Winged Tyranid", but I'll leave it at that for now.

Shrike or Parasite seems to be the safe pair of bets. Could the Parasite just be an alt-build in a set of three Shrikes, like Nork Deddog in the Ogryn box? Or is it too distinctive/big for that?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 13:46:34


Post by: Kanluwen


No idea! Only specific we have is one of the more reliable rumorfolks now who said there's a Parasite of Mortex kit coming.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 13:49:16


Post by: Nevelon


I agree that while it could be a new/redone tyranid wing, it does break from the established aesthetics.

Could be a undead/chaos winged beastie.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 13:57:42


Post by: Chikout


This is the Tyranid from the preview video. It's pretty different.

[Thumb - Screenshot_20220222-225616.png]


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 14:03:52


Post by: Kitane


Shrike/Parasite wings were my immediate reaction.

The orientation of the fingers, the style of holes, the tips, and there's also the extra fake finger coming from the elbow like on the Tyrant. That's a trait only on larger winged plastic Tyranids so far, but it was also present on the old FW Shrike wings.

If anything, the unusal number of holes point more in the direction of the Parasite - as an independen character it could have more detail and more weathered looks.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 14:29:21


Post by: Scottywan82


 Kanluwen wrote:
Spoiler:

And here's today's Rumor Engine, looking fairly Shrike-y.


My first thought was Tyranid, but the more I look at it, the more I get AoS Death or Chaos vibes.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 15:08:04


Post by: Oguhmek


Yea, it has more of an undead vibe to me.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 15:25:22


Post by: chaos0xomega


It appears to be skeletal or exo-skeletal judging by the way its shaped and painted, so its most likely either AoS Death or Tyranid in nature. I'm leaning towards Death as the amount of holes and raggedness of the wing edge of the flap has more in common with fell-bats and terrorgheists than it does anything in the Tyranids model range.

Based on the scaling of the holes/raggedyness its also too small to be anything much larger than a gargoyle in size, so unless they're giving us a resculpt of those (the current kit isn't that old, so unlikely) it wouldn't fit as the rumored parasite/shrike kit, especially not when compared to the preview snippet from the teaser video that Chikout shared....

So its almost certainly an AoS Death mini.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 15:26:34


Post by: Shadow Walker


New Tyranid Gargoyles! But seriously, new gargoyles for Soulblight or some other AoS faction/boardgame?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 16:11:34


Post by: Olthannon


I think probably not Tyranids but maybe something chaotic.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 16:28:53


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Angron


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 16:29:27


Post by: TheGoodGerman


That might be the first Cursed City expansion, to spice up the announcement of CC's re-release.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 16:32:12


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik




Doesn’t seem large enough to me.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/22 22:10:47


Post by: Fayric


Looks alot like the wings of Valkia the Bloody, exept they are more ragged.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/23 00:54:56


Post by: Theophony


New possessed wings for Chaos Space Marines.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/23 12:58:35


Post by: krijthebold


It's a butterfly! A chaos butterfly!

Wait, why doesn't that exist yet?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/23 13:05:09


Post by: Mr_Rose


 krijthebold wrote:
It's a butterfly! A chaos butterfly!

Wait, why doesn't that exist yet?

Pretty sure they did once, or there was an entry that could just as well be an enormous mutant butterfly as anything else. But they leaned harder into chaos just having weird gribblies rather than corrupted normal animals (possibly because they’re more trademarkable).


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/23 13:38:55


Post by: krijthebold


 Mr_Rose wrote:
 krijthebold wrote:
It's a butterfly! A chaos butterfly!

Wait, why doesn't that exist yet?

Pretty sure they did once, or there was an entry that could just as well be an enormous mutant butterfly as anything else. But they leaned harder into chaos just having weird gribblies rather than corrupted normal animals (possibly because they’re more trademarkable).


Bring it back! A giant mandlebrot winged chaos butterfly would be far stranger than the things that they call strange right now.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/23 13:39:34


Post by: Theophony


 krijthebold wrote:
It's a butterfly! A chaos butterfly!

Wait, why doesn't that exist yet?

It's called Mortarion


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/23 13:42:57


Post by: GaroRobe


 Theophony wrote:
 krijthebold wrote:
It's a butterfly! A chaos butterfly!

Wait, why doesn't that exist yet?

It's called Mortarion


Mortarion is a moth. Why else does he carry a gun called "Lantern?" He may as well call it lamp.

Poor, sad Mothtarion.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/02/23 13:51:32


Post by: krijthebold


Mothtarion!

I hope someone out there has done some art of Mothtarion fluttering against a lightbulb while a space marine is just standing there confused.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 12:57:01


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik




Wrist armour is curiously angular.

Necromunda?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:05:40


Post by: Kanluwen


Might be the Kasrkin we have from the leak list.

Could also finally be the Technoarchaeologist release for the AdMech, given that Daedalosius has been OOP with Combat Arena/BSF: Escalation.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:07:07


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


It kind of reminds me of the Scions, but the underside of their gloves looks very different


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:09:55


Post by: lord_blackfang


Something something Kill Team


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:11:10


Post by: Kanluwen


Saw someone on B&C mention that the weirdness might be relating to the camo pattern for Kasrkin:

Spoiler:


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:11:30


Post by: Tim the Biovore


It's very little to go on, but it does look like the Kasrkin camo pattern on the wrist

EDIT: Ninja'd before the rollover


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:19:11


Post by: GaroRobe


My biggest fear is that GW will just make karskins an upgrade sprue for the current cadian kit.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:19:58


Post by: zedmeister


Or they could be planning to do plastic Elysians? Kill Team seems to be doing a lot of Forgeworld stuff


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:21:24


Post by: Kanluwen


 zedmeister wrote:
Or they could be planning to do plastic Elysians? Kill Team seems to be doing a lot of Forgeworld stuff

Spoiler:


I now wonder if the announcement of a new Combat Patrol next week is Cadians. There's supposed to be a new box of them(NOT THE REPACKED BOX!. The repacked box was announced before this rumor list was made) in addition to the Kasrkin.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:31:25


Post by: Olthannon


That is 100% kasrkin.

The only Imperial Guard model I can remember that had an auspex was the stormtrooper sarge with a plasma pistol.

The older storm trooper models also had more squared off bracers.



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:32:47


Post by: Dudeface


 Kanluwen wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:
Or they could be planning to do plastic Elysians? Kill Team seems to be doing a lot of Forgeworld stuff

Spoiler:


I now wonder if the announcement of a new Combat Patrol next week is Cadians. There's supposed to be a new box of them(NOT THE REPACKED BOX!. The repacked box was announced before this rumor list was made) in addition to the Kasrkin.


Given they release with/after a codex and there's nothing to indicate guard getting a book, this is a stretch.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:38:46


Post by: Kanluwen


Dudeface wrote:

Given they release with/after a codex and there's nothing to indicate guard getting a book, this is a stretch.

And given that they don't seem to have issues releasing units outside of a codex again, it's not as big of a stretch as you might think.

The SC: Guard box has been kind of an issue for awhile now.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:40:59


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


 Olthannon wrote:
That is 100% kasrkin.

The only Imperial Guard model I can remember that had an auspex was the stormtrooper sarge with a plasma pistol.

The older storm trooper models also had more squared off bracers.



Yeah this is very much the angular 'outlined' camo scheme as on the old minis and the illustration Kan posted on the last page, here's the metal kit:
http://www.solegends.com/citcat2004us/c2004usp0163-00.htm


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:46:08


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’m still thinking it might be Van Saar. Something for Ash Wastes.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:47:09


Post by: GaroRobe


So would the combat patrol be full of new but monobuild models? Like the slaves to darkness Start Collecting and how they originally released the new ork boyz? Not gonna lie, if that's what it takes for us to get updated cadians, I'll take it


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:52:29


Post by: Irbis


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m still thinking it might be Van Saar. Something for Ash Wastes.

If that was VS, it would look way more advanced. They use ovals, not squares as primary primitive shape. Not to mention no camouflage.



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:57:37


Post by: Geifer


 GaroRobe wrote:
My biggest fear is that GW will just make karskins an upgrade sprue for the current cadian kit.


I'd be more worried to get shiny, new Kasrkin only to be stuck with the core of the army still being the ugly, old Cadians. Because then you definitely want to do something with the shiny, new Kasrkin but are stuck with the ugly, old Cadians to make up the core of your army. And that sucks.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m still thinking it might be Van Saar. Something for Ash Wastes.


Don't be silly. That auspex doesn't look like it belongs in Infinity.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 13:58:35


Post by: Dudeface


 Kanluwen wrote:
Dudeface wrote:

Given they release with/after a codex and there's nothing to indicate guard getting a book, this is a stretch.

And given that they don't seem to have issues releasing units outside of a codex again, it's not as big of a stretch as you might think.

The SC: Guard box has been kind of an issue for awhile now.


I don't think referencing 40k rules for a KT unit is a good basis for that assumption, if you're postulating a guard kill team you're probably nearer the money would be my guess.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 14:00:16


Post by: Valkyrie


Come on, please be plastic Kasrkin.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 14:11:09


Post by: Kanluwen


Dudeface wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Dudeface wrote:

Given they release with/after a codex and there's nothing to indicate guard getting a book, this is a stretch.

And given that they don't seem to have issues releasing units outside of a codex again, it's not as big of a stretch as you might think.

The SC: Guard box has been kind of an issue for awhile now.


I don't think referencing 40k rules for a KT unit is a good basis for that assumption, if you're postulating a guard kill team you're probably nearer the money would be my guess.

There's also the Gravis Captain and Primaris Ancient who received free rules, in advance of their codex release.

Simply put, the SC: Guard box has been a dumpsterfire since day one. Given that they've now been pushing HWT-less Infantry Squads(Brood Brothers box is the only one featuring a HWT) as releases? Introducing the updated Cadians that were rumored to be coming(Marshal Loss might have the screencaps of the description? It matched up to KT's Core Book p23) as a Combat Patrol, alongside of Kasrkin ala the Slaves to Darkness set or Shadowspear or Sisters with updated datasheets online would not be as far-fetched as you lot seem to think.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 14:15:23


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Irbis wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m still thinking it might be Van Saar. Something for Ash Wastes.

If that was VS, it would look way more advanced. They use ovals, not squares as primary primitive shape. Not to mention no camouflage.



Sealed environment suit, chunky and robust auspex. I still think it could be Van Saar, or at least something Ash Wastes related (such as the new gangs we’re heard mentioned).


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 14:30:21


Post by: Dread Master


First glimpse of new Kasrkin per the rumors. NICE! Part of a Killteam, so I wonder how far out?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 14:33:55


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Looking at the camo, I do agree it’s camo. Originally saw it as a bit of shallow detailing.

Probably Karskin


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 14:55:28


Post by: TalonZahn


Definitely Kasrkin.

Same camo pattern since the dawn of time


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 15:06:16


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Yeah, this is probably Karskins


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 15:33:44


Post by: Bobthehero




I do want to believe that it's Kasrkins, with that camo pattern. But, isn't it a bit too obvious?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 15:37:25


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Bobthehero wrote:


I do want to believe that it's Kasrkins, with that camo pattern. But, isn't it a bit too obvious?


There were some rather obvious rumour engines in the past, so.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 15:41:26


Post by: GiToRaZor


If it really is a Kasrkin (or at least a Stormtrooper), I am wondering where that put's the Scions in the future. The build for 40K has so far been, that you stick the odd units in a seperate detachment, to keep their unique abilities or have them in your army's main detachment sans unique rules. Kasrkin and Stormtroopers are sort of competing and if the IG dex needs one thing it's trimming down of the 4+ elite small units, not getting more of them.

But who am I kidding, if this is true, I can finally field my Grenadiers again under regimental rules.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 16:27:21


Post by: Bobthehero


The idea was to perhaps allow regular IG armies to have their 4+ units intergrated in their Regiment, with Scions being their own thing, with the possibility of keeping Deep-Strike and maybe the hotshot Volleygun?



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 16:58:03


Post by: chaos0xomega


I believe its Kasrkin


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 17:03:48


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 GiToRaZor wrote:
If it really is a Kasrkin (or at least a Stormtrooper), I am wondering where that put's the Scions in the future. The build for 40K has so far been, that you stick the odd units in a seperate detachment, to keep their unique abilities or have them in your army's main detachment sans unique rules. Kasrkin and Stormtroopers are sort of competing and if the IG dex needs one thing it's trimming down of the 4+ elite small units, not getting more of them.

But who am I kidding, if this is true, I can finally field my Grenadiers again under regimental rules.


40k also isn't a stranger to subfactions having a significant amount of bloat by the virtue of units unique to them that aren't really all that different from the units in their parent faction.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 17:13:36


Post by: chaos0xomega


Imperial Guard are the logical next faction to receive Codex Supplements IMO. Seems weird that thus far they have been basically limited to Space Marines.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 17:51:57


Post by: Kanluwen


chaos0xomega wrote:
Imperial Guard are the logical next faction to receive Codex Supplements IMO. Seems weird that thus far they have been basically limited to Space Marines.

CSM, SM, and Guard are basically the "Big Ones" for it--with Aeldari and Drukhari being the next ones.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Bobthehero wrote:
The idea was to perhaps allow regular IG armies to have their 4+ units intergrated in their Regiment, with Scions being their own thing, with the possibility of keeping Deep-Strike and maybe the hotshot Volleygun?


Scions as an auxiliary unit with deep-strike, volleyguns as options vs Grenadiers/Kasrkin as DKoK/Cadian specific 4+'s with standard specials and a signature special to boot.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 17:58:49


Post by: Voss


Elfs being shoved together into Craftworlds (and Ynnari being reduced to a 'craftworld' with weird build rules) suggests to me that its paradigm shift time, and the idea of supplements is being scrapped.
And Chaos Marines are doggedly (but slowly) sticking to god-specific legions are the only true variations and get their own book, no supplements allowed.


We'll see how Marine Codex 9.5 or 10.0 handles it, but it looks like an 8th edition concept trial that had no legs, rather than something they're going to expand to other factions.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 18:07:55


Post by: Bobthehero


 Kanluwen wrote:

Scions as an auxiliary unit with deep-strike, volleyguns as options vs Grenadiers/Kasrkin as DKoK/Cadian specific 4+'s with standard specials and a signature special to boot.


Yup. Krieg Grenadiers already had their signature bit where they have access to some heavy weapons, but they weren't super hot, tbh.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 19:33:15


Post by: Andykp


Maybe these will be another killteam faction with codex rules more akin to grenadiers than stormtroopers. Less drop troop/special forces, more heavy infantry/hold the line types. It’s definitely kasrkin.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 22:16:11


Post by: Kanluwen


I don't usually pay attention to Valrak, cause clickbait, but here's a posting from today:
Lots of New stuff for the Imperial Guard:



New Tank (Apparently named Rogal Dorn Battle Tank)
New Kasrkin Kit
New Sentinel Kit
New Veteran Cadians/Command Squad
New HQs

The tank, Kasrkin, veteran Cadians, and HQs were things we "knew".

The Sentinel is the Big Surprise. Assumption is that it's adding a new sprue with some additional crew bits and weapon options.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 23:10:49


Post by: Shakalooloo


Rogal Dorn seems like a much more suitable Primarch to name a tank after than Russ!

Guess it opens the door up to future variants named after each of them. Maybe a Sanguinius-class aircraft?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/01 23:33:28


Post by: JSG


 Shakalooloo wrote:
Rogal Dorn seems like a much more suitable Primarch to name a tank after than Russ!

Guess it opens the door up to future variants named after each of them. Maybe a Sanguinius-class aircraft?


It's called the Russ because the SW found the STC for it.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 00:10:14


Post by: Dysartes


See also: Land Raider, Land Speeder...


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 00:25:23


Post by: Theophony


A Dorn tank sounds like a wall with wheels.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 00:56:27


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Rogal Down Mobile Fortress

I'd be down for that.

Don't know why we need a new Sentinel though. What's wrong with the current one? It took all four varieties of Sentinel (vanilla, Catachan, Armoured/Cadian, Enclosed/Steel Legion) and combined them into a single kit and added Plasma Cannons and Missile Launchers as options.



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 01:01:05


Post by: Sabotage!


 GaroRobe wrote:
So would the combat patrol be full of new but monobuild models? Like the slaves to darkness Start Collecting and how they originally released the new ork boyz? Not gonna lie, if that's what it takes for us to get updated cadians, I'll take it


This would be fantastic! I have a strong feeling it will be Ynnari or another Marine Box….mostly likely Marines…because they really don’t have enough. Another chance is that it’s the Nids box getting announced ahead of the book that is coming soon.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 01:37:28


Post by: Snrub


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Don't know why we need a new Sentinel though. What's wrong with the current one?
Yeah, of all the Guard kits, the Sentinal is one of the few that really doesn't need an update.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 01:47:20


Post by: Skywave


Just like the Leman Russ, I hope the Dorn tank have no visual link to the Imperial Fist.

But I want to see a conversion of a giant, metallic/mechanized, tank-sized handlebar mustache on it though


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 03:32:17


Post by: GiToRaZor


 Shakalooloo wrote:
Rogal Dorn seems like a much more suitable Primarch to name a tank after than Russ!

Guess it opens the door up to future variants named after each of them. Maybe a Sanguinius-class aircraft?


I think I just threw up a little. Also, considering GWs latest Tank designs, it dreads me to think how that tank will look like.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 04:16:02


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 Snrub wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Don't know why we need a new Sentinel though. What's wrong with the current one?
Yeah, of all the Guard kits, the Sentinal is one of the few that really doesn't need an update.


Maybe a drop sentinel with the heavy bolter and multi melta options? Preferably with an elysian crew, but more likely they could do a standard and tempestus decor parts.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 09:06:00


Post by: lord_blackfang


You know it's not going to technically be an update, right, just an overlapping new unit that makes the old one obsolete. See Mek Gunz vs Big Gunz.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 09:17:02


Post by: Danny76


TheGoodGerman wrote:
That might be the first Cursed City expansion, to spice up the announcement of CC's re-release.


Yeah I came to say this.

The tyranid Parasite thing is in the next 3 months, this could be 8 months away etc..


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 09:52:33


Post by: Not Online!!!


 lord_blackfang wrote:
You know it's not going to technically be an update, right, just an overlapping new unit that makes the old one obsolete. See Mek Gunz vs Big Gunz.

It could also be a fact that the Sentinel is too cheap and GW wants to avoid just pricehiking it so they throw in an additional sprue for some cents and hike the price that way and sell it as new and improved tm.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 13:40:08


Post by: Olthannon


It's possible the new Sentinel kit is linked to the "2 new regiments thing" that's been mentioned. It is odd that it needs redoing, maybe they're just updating it because it's an older kit?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 13:55:36


Post by: MarkNorfolk


 Dysartes wrote:
See also: Land Raider, Land Speeder...


The worst, lamest, most cringe-worthy retconning in the 40k lore.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 14:21:34


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


MarkNorfolk wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
See also: Land Raider, Land Speeder...


The worst, lamest, most cringe-worthy retconning in the 40k lore.


To be fair.
It's also not exactly unrealistic.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 14:34:41


Post by: Mr_Rose


And here I would have said it was “Cawl always existed, was best buds with Gulliman, and has been secretly testing and deploying Primaris marines for ten thousand years and no-one noticed.”


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 14:50:20


Post by: Jack Flask


 Olthannon wrote:
It's possible the new Sentinel kit is linked to the "2 new regiments thing" that's been mentioned. It is odd that it needs redoing, maybe they're just updating it because it's an older kit?


This is not a rumor, just me musing, but I wonder what's the likelihood that one of the elite regiments is Elysians and the redone Sentinel has the Drop Sentinel upgrades in it


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 20:22:51


Post by: Shakalooloo


MarkNorfolk wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
See also: Land Raider, Land Speeder...


The worst, lamest, most cringe-worthy retconning in the 40k lore.


Add 'needless' to that list and it's perfect. It's not like anyone was asking the question "Why is it called a Land Speeder?"


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 21:01:11


Post by: Kanluwen


 Jack Flask wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
It's possible the new Sentinel kit is linked to the "2 new regiments thing" that's been mentioned. It is odd that it needs redoing, maybe they're just updating it because it's an older kit?


This is not a rumor, just me musing, but I wonder what's the likelihood that one of the elite regiments is Elysians and the redone Sentinel has the Drop Sentinel upgrades in it

Extremely small as there has been no mention of Elysians...but there is a chance that it's adding another sprue's worth of equipment and pilot bits to the kit. Someone else mentioned the Sentinel Powerlifter--and that might not be a bad shout, opening up the kit for use in the upcoming Ash Wastes stuff for Necromunda.

If I had to make a bet? I would say it's to add the Jump Sentinel in--something out of the old Visions of Heresy books that the Imperial Army had. Standard Sentinels but with limited jump capacity.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/02 22:16:21


Post by: DarkStarSabre


 Mr_Rose wrote:
And here I would have said it was “Cawl always existed, was best buds with Gulliman, and has been secretly testing and deploying Primaris marines for ten thousand years and no-one noticed.”




Let's not forget 'And was given free reign to play with the Geneseed and master it, which you know, Primarchs couldn't do, Fabius Bile couldn't do....and hell, the Emperor himself couldn't do but Cawl got it just right!'



Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/03 00:52:00


Post by: Flipsiders


 Shakalooloo wrote:
MarkNorfolk wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
See also: Land Raider, Land Speeder...


The worst, lamest, most cringe-worthy retconning in the 40k lore.


Add 'needless' to that list and it's perfect. It's not like anyone was asking the question "Why is it called a Land Speeder?"


You all realize it was a joke, right? The punchline is that Arkhan Land was extremely proud of his work, and consequently became super whiney when everyone assumed that the vehicles he named after himself were instead called that for, you know, the obvious reason. There's even an IA book which mentions him writing a huge manifesto about it.

I know it's in vogue to make fun of the "Land Raider" stuff right now and pretend it's just the designers adding lore where there didn't need to be any, but the Land situation is absurd because it was written to be a joke at the Imperium's expense. Y'all think you're laughing at the GW writers, but in reality, you're laughing with them without realizing, which, arguably, makes you the butt of the joke.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/03 03:07:06


Post by: Irbis


 Mr_Rose wrote:
And here I would have said it was “Cawl always existed, was best buds with Gulliman, and has been secretly testing and deploying Primaris marines for ten thousand years and no-one noticed.”

There had been dozens of stories about secret tests of SM upgrades (like the Homo Sapiens Novus story, or all Cursed Founding lore, or hints about chapters having abnormal primaris-like traits, like Sons of Antaeus, or old stuff like Raven Guard Raptors, or [insert 50 more examples]), but yeah, sure, it's a ""retcon"" and ""no one"" noticed

It's funny, but somehow every single post whining about primaris lore shows complete ignorance of both actual primaris lore, and of 40k lore before it, and can be summed as "GW doesn't adhere to my fanfiction"...

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Let's not forget 'And was given free reign to play with the Geneseed and master it, which you know, Primarchs couldn't do, Fabius Bile couldn't do....and hell, the Emperor himself couldn't do but Cawl got it just right!'

Yeah, Corax doesn't exist, Bile's New Men or upgraded CSM from actual tabletop rules don't either, Mechanicus sure as hell never did Cursed Founding or sponsored Homo Sapiens Novus tests, or [insert 50 more examples].

You guys ever tried, like, reading any actual 40k lore? No, 4chan trash memes don't count, unless you want to look like 40k equivalent of flat earther or covid denier


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/03 04:34:59


Post by: Jarms48


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Wrist armour is curiously angular.

Necromunda?


That's a Kasrkin, my man.





Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/03 09:30:26


Post by: MarkNorfolk


 Flipsiders wrote:
 Shakalooloo wrote:
MarkNorfolk wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
See also: Land Raider, Land Speeder...


The worst, lamest, most cringe-worthy retconning in the 40k lore.


Add 'needless' to that list and it's perfect. It's not like anyone was asking the question "Why is it called a Land Speeder?"


You all realize it was a joke, right? The punchline is that Arkhan Land was extremely proud of his work, and consequently became super whiney when everyone assumed that the vehicles he named after himself were instead called that for, you know, the obvious reason. There's even an IA book which mentions him writing a huge manifesto about it.

I know it's in vogue to make fun of the "Land Raider" stuff right now and pretend it's just the designers adding lore where there didn't need to be any, but the Land situation is absurd because it was written to be a joke at the Imperium's expense. Y'all think you're laughing at the GW writers, but in reality, you're laughing with them without realizing, which, arguably, makes you the butt of the joke.


If you have to explain the joke, it's not much of a joke. Besides, I'm not laughing at the writers, I'm disappointed.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/03 19:10:04


Post by: chaos0xomega


 Kanluwen wrote:
I don't usually pay attention to Valrak, cause clickbait, but here's a posting from today:
Lots of New stuff for the Imperial Guard:



New Tank (Apparently named Rogal Dorn Battle Tank)
New Kasrkin Kit
New Sentinel Kit
New Veteran Cadians/Command Squad
New HQs

The tank, Kasrkin, veteran Cadians, and HQs were things we "knew".

The Sentinel is the Big Surprise. Assumption is that it's adding a new sprue with some additional crew bits and weapon options.


I dont buy that the tank is named the Rogal Dorn, mainly because its Valrak and it sounds way too convenient for that to be true coming from him.k is n


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/03 19:18:44


Post by: Kanluwen


I'm in agreement that the name feels way too convenient, but we do know there's a tank from that big leaked list--same with the Cadian Veterans and Kasrkin.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/03 19:28:22


Post by: Lord Damocles


 Flipsiders wrote:
 Shakalooloo wrote:
MarkNorfolk wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
See also: Land Raider, Land Speeder...


The worst, lamest, most cringe-worthy retconning in the 40k lore.


Add 'needless' to that list and it's perfect. It's not like anyone was asking the question "Why is it called a Land Speeder?"


You all realize it was a joke, right?

It's also over twenty years old background at this point.

Even I might give up complaining about a 'retcon' after that amount of time!


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/03 20:07:07


Post by: Voss


Jarms48 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Wrist armour is curiously angular.

Necromunda?


That's a Kasrkin, my man.





Amusingly, its based on the hand scanner carried by one of the metal pre-Karskin stormtroopers (which got ported over to Inquisition storm troopers).
You can see it in the right hand of the sergeant with plasma pistol (and bolter across the chest):
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images3/1/0313/24/warhammer-40k-ig-inquistion_1_db54c120ad0e4714aa0a9ef95c395b7f.jpg
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BV8AAOSwH6hdYBIi/s-l1600.jpg


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/04 08:59:00


Post by: Dysartes


The less-useful sergeant model, with the boltgun I don't think you can give him?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/04 10:33:10


Post by: Oguhmek


The Land Raider was "inspired" by a Judge Dredd comic (plus WW1 tanks), where it was named thus because it was... uh a raider that they drove over land between MC1 and MC2.



I guess that the Arkhan Land thing was invented later to distance it from the Judge Dredd one, I have no problems with that, especially it's a nice touch that Land himself was annoyed that people didn't understand it was named after him. A little piece of meta humor.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/04 10:41:24


Post by: WAAAGH


Is there only his head in the armor?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/04 11:47:32


Post by: ekwatts


I really don't get all the whining about Primaris.

They exist for one main reason: Existing space marines were too small. Added to that, a soft-reboot of the range would allow both a subtle aesthetic redesign that can take full advantage of modern design techniques, and an opportunity to do something slightly different with squad setups, etc.

The fluff exists in order to justify original models and the newer models existing together. That's it. It could have been better written, no doubt, but GW bodged a way for oldmarines players to still use their armies, and even add to them.

That's it.

As for all the Cawl stuff, I don't care how inconsistent with your own headcanon it is. He's a good character that writers can have some fun with.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 12:55:24


Post by: DaveC




Cursed City expansion? Maybe?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 12:58:58


Post by: lord_blackfang


Release me from this dandruffy prison!


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 13:01:23


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


It's certainly something big


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 13:04:32


Post by: Nevelon


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Release me from this dandruffy prison!


My first thought was hair, but when I tried to think what kind of mini would have a goblin thing trapped in a hair-cell, came up completely blank. Spider web? Fire? Smoke? Magic? Nothing else seems to fit.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 13:14:12


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Trapped in a Beard.

Wonder if this ties in to the unsolved one from ages back?



Seems to have a tentacle type appendage as well?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 13:15:29


Post by: JWBS


 Nevelon wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Release me from this dandruffy prison!


what kind of mini would have a goblin thing trapped in a hair-cell

A Shaggoth.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 13:26:01


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 GiToRaZor wrote:
If it really is a Kasrkin (or at least a Stormtrooper), I am wondering where that put's the Scions in the future. The build for 40K has so far been, that you stick the odd units in a seperate detachment, to keep their unique abilities or have them in your army's main detachment sans unique rules. Kasrkin and Stormtroopers are sort of competing and if the IG dex needs one thing it's trimming down of the 4+ elite small units, not getting more of them.

But who am I kidding, if this is true, I can finally field my Grenadiers again under regimental rules.


I wonder the same thing, especially since I'm sitting on a shelf or two of Arbites in need of a rules home.

Maybe... Scions move to elite, Kasrkin as troops with infiltrate (an old Strom Trooper ability) but not deep strike?

Or maybe it's just a sneaky way to improve the Scion box? They're not bad models but just a terrible value for the money.

Kasrkin with 10 to a box and multiple special weapons (and shotguns? shotguns please?) would far outsell the 5 man Scion box.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 13:33:27


Post by: Tim the Biovore


 DaveC wrote:


Cursed City expansion? Maybe?


I don't think I've been this stumped by the Rumour Engine before


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 13:34:33


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Rogal Down Mobile Fortress

I'd be down for that.

Don't know why we need a new Sentinel though. What's wrong with the current one? It took all four varieties of Sentinel (vanilla, Catachan, Armoured/Cadian, Enclosed/Steel Legion) and combined them into a single kit and added Plasma Cannons and Missile Launchers as options.



Like the Valkyrie and Chimera 2 it's just a really great kit flexible with all the options, and good for scratch building. I hope they're not making it obsolete. The only issue I have is the current price.

A bigger meaner tanky sentinel (the Sentry?) would be cool, maybe a 4 legged one?

My guess would be a drop sentinel for the Kasrkin, but that's just a guess.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 13:36:44


Post by: Voss


 Tim the Biovore wrote:
 DaveC wrote:


Cursed City expansion? Maybe?


I don't think I've been this stumped by the Rumour Engine before


Its a baby vampire in the curtains of a window or a door (you can see the arch along the side). What's to be stumped by?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 13:38:53


Post by: Theophony


Voss wrote:
 Tim the Biovore wrote:
 DaveC wrote:


Cursed City expansion? Maybe?


I don't think I've been this stumped by the Rumour Engine before


Its a baby vampire in the curtains of a window or a door (you can see the arch along the side). What's to be stumped by?


Would a baby vampire be a Vampire Brat?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 14:05:03


Post by: Kanluwen


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

I wonder the same thing, especially since I'm sitting on a shelf or two of Arbites in need of a rules home.

Maybe... Scions move to elite, Kasrkin as troops with infiltrate (an old Strom Trooper ability) but not deep strike?

Or maybe it's just a sneaky way to improve the Scion box? They're not bad models but just a terrible value for the money.

Kasrkin with 10 to a box and multiple special weapons (and shotguns? shotguns please?) would far outsell the 5 man Scion box.

Or it means nothing except to give the Cadians a "signature unit".


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 14:13:08


Post by: Geifer


Voss wrote:
 Tim the Biovore wrote:
 DaveC wrote:


Cursed City expansion? Maybe?


I don't think I've been this stumped by the Rumour Engine before


Its a baby vampire in the curtains of a window or a door (you can see the arch along the side). What's to be stumped by?


Baby vampire, sure. But where you see curtains others see a beard. What you call an arch may just as easily be part of the phantom giant of the opera's mask.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 14:24:11


Post by: GaroRobe


Am I the only person who thinks shaggoth? The old model is hairy and has little imps in his hair


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 14:25:28


Post by: Platuan4th


 GaroRobe wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks shaggoth? The old model is hairy and has little imps in his hair


Those aren't supposed to be imps, they're supposed to be full sized Beastmen because Shaggoths are meant to be enormous(like the size of mountains).


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 14:42:44


Post by: Voss


 Geifer wrote:
Voss wrote:
 Tim the Biovore wrote:
 DaveC wrote:


Cursed City expansion? Maybe?


I don't think I've been this stumped by the Rumour Engine before


Its a baby vampire in the curtains of a window or a door (you can see the arch along the side). What's to be stumped by?


Baby vampire, sure. But where you see curtains others see a beard. What you call an arch may just as easily be part of the phantom giant of the opera's mask.

... what?
how does the phantom of the opera come into anything?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 14:50:13


Post by: Segersgia


Vampire Offspring? Like in the Van Helsing Film? Could be a cool concept if that is what it is.

EDIT: It does indeed resemble the Flute Rumour image:


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 15:10:39


Post by: GaroRobe


I think it looks more beardy than curtainy.

I’m guessing Radukar is actually Dadukar. Though his baby would probably be more Wolfy


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 15:10:59


Post by: Shadow Walker


Baby gargoyle?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 15:27:47


Post by: GrosseSax


 GaroRobe wrote:
I think it looks more beardy than curtainy.

I’m guessing Radukar is actually Dadukar. Though his baby would probably be more Wolfy


Like an ogre beard.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 15:36:05


Post by: Geifer


Voss wrote:
Spoiler:
 Geifer wrote:
Voss wrote:
 Tim the Biovore wrote:
 DaveC wrote:


Cursed City expansion? Maybe?


I don't think I've been this stumped by the Rumour Engine before


Its a baby vampire in the curtains of a window or a door (you can see the arch along the side). What's to be stumped by?


Baby vampire, sure. But where you see curtains others see a beard. What you call an arch may just as easily be part of the phantom giant of the opera's mask.

... what?
how does the phantom of the opera come into anything?


Because the phantom's mask only covers one side of his face and the thingy in the picture is also only on one side?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 17:34:11


Post by: aracersss


Two nid related rumor engines & and one parasite



... maybe hope for dual kit or red terror later on?


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 17:39:45


Post by: beast_gts


Sighted – A Terrifying New Tyranid Organism - WarCom

Confirmed to be the Parasite of Mortrex.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 17:51:12


Post by: Geifer


It's kind of cute.

And you could probably stick a Ripper in its mouth to Alienify it, too.


Rumour Engine 2022 @ 2022/03/08 18:48:47


Post by: Platuan4th


 aracersss wrote:
Two nid related rumor engines & and one parasite



... maybe hope for dual kit or red terror later on?


Pincer tail is not from the Parasite.