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GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 18:28:10


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


How do!

So GW have confirmed we’re in for a LVO preview show this Thursday/Friday, depending where you are in this big wide world.

Fairly low-key announcement so far, being tucked away at the bottom of this week’s Sunday pre-order preview article.

Wonder if we might see an attempt at a hype train in the coming days, with silhouettes and that.

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GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 18:39:01


Post by: GoatboyBeta


6am on a Friday morning? Guess I'll be checking WHC for the roundup when I get into work.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 18:41:23


Post by: Kanluwen


6am Friday morning, friggin' 1am Eastern US.

Gross!

Oh well, hopefully it'll be something cool. You got this one, Doc.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 18:42:30


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Eh, I’m still working from home, so might just get up a wee bit earlier.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 19:46:12


Post by: zamerion


Let's see if tomorrow they comment a little more about the games that we will see in the preview, how they are doing lately.

removing the chaos vs eldar box, and the eldar news, is there nothing pending to be released?


I look forward to seeing the quarterly news from blood bowl, and necromunda (ash wastes please)


I guess they'll finish showing all eldar things, and next from AoS.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 19:47:48


Post by: Kanluwen


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Eh, I’m still working from home, so might just get up a wee bit earlier.

I was more meaning that this one's all on you. I ain't staying up. These old bones need their rest.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 19:49:14


Post by: beast_gts


2020s LVO previews, for reference.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Eh, I’m still working from home, so might just get up a wee bit earlier.
I'm off work Thur/Fri so could pull an all-nighter or just get up early (and then go back to bed...)


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 19:58:32


Post by: Kanluwen


That was from 2020.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 20:03:51


Post by: bullyboy


Interesting, I was supposed to go to LVO but not now (but still taking time off from work). Last time (2020) the release was shown simultaneously as it was shown at event. Looks like there is a small delay this time.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 20:06:37


Post by: Gert


Methinks I'll be taking a look at a more reasonable time


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 20:12:52


Post by: beast_gts


 Kanluwen wrote:
That was from 2020.
Well spotted - did it even take place last year?


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 20:22:12


Post by: xttz


zamerion wrote:
Let's see if tomorrow they comment a little more about the games that we will see in the preview, how they are doing lately.

removing the chaos vs eldar box, and the eldar news, is there nothing pending to be released?
.


Normally there's an article posted on Monday with details of which game systems will be covered and when to watch in each timezone.

AFAIK the only unreleased but announced products are Eldritch Omens, remaining 40k combat patrols, and the cursed city reprint.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 20:40:47


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Reckon we might see a preview of a Cursed City expansion.

I’m also wondering given just how busy the codex releases have been this month, if this might prove a more substantial preview.

But saying that, I guess it will depend when the next preview is likely to be. Whilst there’s no word about previews there, it is Warhammer World’s 25th Anniversary early March, so maybe we’ll see some stuff held back until then, give us attendees a wee tickle beyond buying Precious Things.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 20:47:24


Post by: Eldarsif


I imagine that we might get some extensive AoS reveals and small roadmap. AoS has been relatively quiet since 3.0 got released with only 3 battletomes out.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 21:04:49


Post by: DaveC


Not sure if Cursed City falls within the preview window. The novel is getting rereleased in May so that might indicate when Cursed City is back and that's more then 3 months away.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cursed-City-Warhammer-Age-Sigmar/dp/1789999472/ref=sr_1_1?crid=F9G11E2YO9VE&keywords=cursed+city&qid=1642971719&s=books&sprefix=cursed+city%2Cstripbooks%2C139&sr=1-1

6AM to early for me.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 21:10:45


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Eldarsif wrote:
I imagine that we might get some extensive AoS reveals and small roadmap. AoS has been relatively quiet since 3.0 got released with only 3 battletomes out.


We may well see multiple roadmaps, given I think all are now up to date, or outdated depending on how you look at it.

This is of course their first not online preview in a pretty decent while, so perhaps we’ll get loads.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 21:28:26


Post by: The Phazer


 xttz wrote:
Normally there's an article posted on Monday with details of which game systems will be covered and when to watch in each timezone.

AFAIK the only unreleased but announced products are Eldritch Omens, remaining 40k combat patrols, and the cursed city reprint.


There's also the Horus Heresy map that got announced and hasn't gone up for pre-order IIRC.

I imagine that the next Kill Team box will be announced, given that was supposed to be released in January by the previous roadmap.

We're pretty out for most of the games at this point. It would be surprising if the Warcry box got no follow up, we don't have anything for Underworlds, and AOS feels like something should be happening too. And there were some kind of hints that Necromunda will have something coming. That plus the remaining Eldar, and maybe even the Horus Heresy box. I'm not sure there'll be room for much else.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 22:01:22


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Looks like 5pm in the afternoon here in Oz.

Cool.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 22:39:37


Post by: Overread


Far as I recall we are in a bit of a deadzone for previews so it could be pretty big.


As noted AoS has not much if nothing on radar so there's ample opportunity to start hyping up the next for that, esp if the Eldar release is getting closer and closer

Adepticus Titanicus could do with an update, I'd love to see a second edition of it coming out or a big expansion adding something other than Imperial titans.

AN similarly is all up to date now that the Necrons are out.

I forget where Necromunda is though they've had more of a roadmap than most games.

40K is all on Eldar and Chaos (mostly Eldar) right now so we might see another sneak peak from the release - either showing something in full (like the Avatar) or something totally new (accepting that they are already previewing something on Monday which could well just be something we've seen in sneak peaks so far like the Shining Stars)

Cursed City could also be given a mention with some dates or, as noted, a preview of the Expansion.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 22:55:07


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Overread wrote:
Far as I recall we are in a bit of a deadzone for previews so it could be pretty big.
It could also be your typical GW preview where they spend 1.5 hours taking 15 minutes for each game system and only revealing 1 mini, with 1-2 obligatory plugs for Whammy+.

Remember, GW previews are like regular previews, but in slow motion. You have to watch around 3 of them to get a 'proper' preview.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 22:56:52


Post by: Overread


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Far as I recall we are in a bit of a deadzone for previews so it could be pretty big.
It could also be your typical GW preview where they spend 1.5 hours taking 15 minutes for each game system and only revealing 1 mini, with 1-2 obligatory plugs for Whammy+.

Remember, GW previews are like regular previews, but in slow motion. You have to watch around 3 of them to get a 'proper' preview.


Honestly in a normal year I don't mind that because they'd come fairly fast one after the other. It's only the last few years where big events were last moment cancelled and GW's own operations were totally messed up that we wound up with annoying long gaps.

If there's "three big previews in a month" kind of thing I don't mind if each one is smaller.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 23:30:24


Post by: Londinium


Hoping GW might get back to the pre Covid Blood Bowl release schedule of a team every quarter. If so, this is one of the prime opportunities for an announcement.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/23 23:40:02


Post by: Chikout


There will be another preview at Adepticon in March so this will probably only cover the next couple of months.
I think we'll see more Eldar stuff including the Avatar, more Chaos Marines, the next Underworlds warband, something for one or two of the specialist games, the next books for AoS and maybe a teaser for The Horus box.

Rumours are saying that AoS isn't getting much until the summer. Spring is all 40k.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 00:21:58


Post by: Marshal Loss


Hoping to see some of the new CSM.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 00:32:28


Post by: SamusDrake


Bit of everything I'd imagine. Would be nice to see the following...

Nighthaunt Battletome.
A new Harlequin model.
Cursed City and its first expansion.
The Eldar Codex & new models.
New Underworlds warband.
A solo-coop supplement for AoS.
Soulblight warband for Warcry.
Something new and interesting for both Necromunda and Warcry.
40K Knights.

...usually I'd be optimistic for Titanicus but tired of waiting on GW to sort out its shortcomings. As with the long rumoured Horus Heresy starter set, I'd assume that any news would be announced at the Horus Heresy Weekend event if thats even happening this year?


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 01:06:56


Post by: H.B.M.C.


SamusDrake wrote:
A new Harlequin model.
What makes you think a new Harli is coming?


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 01:33:31


Post by: Carlovonsexron


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Looks like 5pm in the afternoon here in Oz.

Cool.


It'll be Friday 1pm for me. It might be the first reasonably times preview ever for me.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 02:08:16


Post by: Thargrim


I just want them to go back to doing models for the old Blood Bowl teams that never got updated. Vampires, Norse, Chorfs, Amazons and so on. I'm not interested in any more redundant greenskin teams, or anything new unless they want to do a Fimir team.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 04:08:32


Post by: tneva82


Chikout wrote:
There will be another preview at Adepticon in March so this will probably only cover the next couple of months.
I think we'll see more Eldar stuff including the Avatar, more Chaos Marines, the next Underworlds warband, something for one or two of the specialist games, the next books for AoS and maybe a teaser for The Horus box.

Rumours are saying that AoS isn't getting much until the summer. Spring is all 40k.


Fyreslayers and idoneth are pretty much quaranteed to get books soonish.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 05:47:50


Post by: ImAGeek


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
A new Harlequin model.
What makes you think a new Harli is coming?


I think it was mentioned in the Eldar advent leak thing, but I’ve lost track of how solid that rumour is at this point. I also think it said it isn’t in the codex though so I wouldn’t be expecting it yet if it is true.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 09:29:05


Post by: xttz


Chikout wrote:
There will be another preview at Adepticon in March so this will probably only cover the next couple of months.
I think we'll see more Eldar stuff including the Avatar, more Chaos Marines, the next Underworlds warband, something for one or two of the specialist games, the next books for AoS and maybe a teaser for The Horus box.

Rumours are saying that AoS isn't getting much until the summer. Spring is all 40k.
SamusDrake wrote:

...usually I'd be optimistic for Titanicus but tired of waiting on GW to sort out its shortcomings. As with the long rumoured Horus Heresy starter set, I'd assume that any news would be announced at the Horus Heresy Weekend event if thats even happening this year?


Based on current rumours the release schedule looks something like this:

  • 40k Eldar & Kill Team set in Feb/March
  • 40k Chaos Knights in March (probably alongside just a codex for IK)
  • 40k CSM in April / May. One reliable source claimed World Eaters were not in that book
  • Big Heresy reboot in early summer
  • 40k Space marines boxed set in the summer with new units, alongside updated codex and/or supplements


  • As the timeline has now reached the Siege of Terra there's a theory is that World Eaters will have a crossover with HH / 40k, with a plastic Daemon Angron being released to push both games. Doubt we'll see any confirmation on WE until Adepticon at the soonest. LVO will probably only cover releases up until Easter at best.

     ImAGeek wrote:
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    SamusDrake wrote:
    A new Harlequin model.
    What makes you think a new Harli is coming?


    I think it was mentioned in the Eldar advent leak thing, but I’ve lost track of how solid that rumour is at this point. I also think it said it isn’t in the codex though so I wouldn’t be expecting it yet if it is true.


    Yeah it came from the dude leaking the codex pics recently. Apparently Harlequins are getting a Mime unit for Kill Team but not until some time after the codex, just like that new Sisters unit. Could be late 2022 or 2023. Same guy also said there's a follow up wave of new models for Aeldari in 2023.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 10:02:56


    Post by: Geifer


     Thargrim wrote:
    I just want them to go back to doing models for the old Blood Bowl teams that never got updated. Vampires, Norse, Chorfs, Amazons and so on. I'm not interested in any more redundant greenskin teams, or anything new unless they want to do a Fimir team.


    That would be great. I want them to make a plastic Khemri team already.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 10:58:26


    Post by: JimmyWolf87


     Thargrim wrote:
    I just want them to go back to doing models for the old Blood Bowl teams that never got updated. Vampires, Norse, Chorfs, Amazons and so on. I'm not interested in any more redundant greenskin teams, or anything new unless they want to do a Fimir team.


    Could genuinely be any of those 4 teams, Tomb Kings or High Elves up next. On one hand it's weird that the latter haven't had a new version yet as they're a 'core' race but then they've also never been that popular. Chaos Dwarfs in all their stacked-hat glory would probably be a crowd pleaser if the models aren't rubbish, though Vampires are arguably the most in need of a bit of attention given their Teams of Legend version has issues.

    Personally wouldn't be surprised at any of the outstanding teams without a 2016/2020 kit getting done next but I think it's also nailed on that Slaanesh and Tzeentch will have their own rosters at some point too (I reckon we'll get Slaanesh this year).


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 12:47:00


    Post by: Clockpunk


    I really want to see anything new for Necromunda, Bloodbowl, Quest, or AoS Chorfs (which would be a full range buy for me). This preview is long overdue - hopefully it has some substance.

    But I was looking over the Teams of Legend sheet last night, and wondered if *perhaps* the Khorne team might be intended as a replacement for the Norse. Conceivably, that could also mean Amazons and High Elves might be replaced with, say, Slaanesh and Tzeentch teams respectively. Filling that play style with assets tied to current ranges.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 12:54:49


    Post by: Carlovonsexron


    ugh. I hope not. I was looking forward to the Amazons.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 12:55:01


    Post by: silverstu


     xttz wrote:


    Based on current rumours the release schedule looks something like this:

  • 40k Eldar & Kill Team set in Feb/March
  • 40k Chaos Knights in March (probably alongside just a codex for IK)
  • 40k CSM in April / May. One reliable source claimed World Eaters were not in that book
  • Big Heresy reboot in early summer
  • 40k Space marines boxed set in the summer with new units, alongside updated codex and/or supplements



  • I'm curious when the sneak peek Nid model[s] will arrive- doesn't seem to be much room in the schedule and it was one thing I was very surprised by in the New Year leak video.
    Not expecting too much beyond the Eldar to be revealed at the preview but some more Nid hints would be great.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 13:00:13


    Post by: Overread


    Lets just hope its actually a Tyranid and not "Tyranid corpse/bits on marine" type of model. I recall when GW showed off some lizard scales and all the seraphon/lizardmen players got excited only to discover that it was a bit of skin on a huge marine character.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 13:00:35


    Post by: GaroRobe


    Are we expecting more than just the Parasite for Nids? It's probably going to be a fairly big model, but Ghaz was huge and still released in a Versus box.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 13:02:50


    Post by: Wha-Mu-077


     GaroRobe wrote:
    Are we expecting more than just the Parasite for Nids? It's probably going to be a fairly big model, but Ghaz was huge and still released in a Versus box.


    I'm expecting whatever that thing is to also make the Red Terror as an option, from the vaguely images we've seen it seems to be a similar body shape, just with wings


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 13:05:34


    Post by: Overread


     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
     GaroRobe wrote:
    Are we expecting more than just the Parasite for Nids? It's probably going to be a fairly big model, but Ghaz was huge and still released in a Versus box.


    I'm expecting whatever that thing is to also make the Red Terror as an option, from the vaguely images we've seen it seems to be a similar body shape, just with wings


    I really don't expect a paired kit with the Red Terror at all.
    Right now I'm thinking its either a character model of the Parasite of Morteux or its the Shrikes which will give it a mostly Warrior type appearance with, likely, a more serpentine end to its body. Perhaps more like a ravener


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 13:08:26


    Post by: xttz


     silverstu wrote:
     xttz wrote:


    Based on current rumours the release schedule looks something like this:

  • 40k Eldar & Kill Team set in Feb/March
  • 40k Chaos Knights in March (probably alongside just a codex for IK)
  • 40k CSM in April / May. One reliable source claimed World Eaters were not in that book
  • Big Heresy reboot in early summer
  • 40k Space marines boxed set in the summer with new units, alongside updated codex and/or supplements



  • I'm curious when the sneak peek Nid model[s] will arrive- doesn't seem to be much room in the schedule and it was one thing I was very surprised by in the New Year leak video.
    Not expecting too much beyond the Eldar to be revealed at the preview but some more Nid hints would be great.


    I'm not expecting anything for Nids until the current season winds down. Fluffwise there are no hive fleets around Vigilus / Nachmund, and it seems this will be focused on heavily on Eldar followed by Chaos content. Most likely Nids are being held back because they get new models with future Kill Team releases, and will show up as a bad guy in the Q3/Q4 season.

    One of the Reddit guys posting details about the Tau & Eldar codexes said the nid model is Parasite of Mortrex.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 13:48:43


    Post by: JimmyWolf87


     Clockpunk wrote:
    I really want to see anything new for Necromunda, Bloodbowl, Quest, or AoS Chorfs (which would be a full range buy for me). This preview is long overdue - hopefully it has some substance.

    But I was looking over the Teams of Legend sheet last night, and wondered if *perhaps* the Khorne team might be intended as a replacement for the Norse. Conceivably, that could also mean Amazons and High Elves might be replaced with, say, Slaanesh and Tzeentch teams respectively. Filling that play style with assets tied to current ranges.


    I very much doubt that's the case (and hopefully I'm right but not ruling it out entirely that they wouldn't do something that daft). I think the Khorne team was more a replacement for... well... the Khorne team i.e. the one which wasn't an 'official' GW team but had been very much present since they appeared in the Blood Bowl 1 video game version and had long been adopted as an 'official' team by the NAF (along with Bretonnians from BB2 and Slaan).

    The Bretonnians have since been directly replaced by the GW Imperial Nobles team (with about 80% of the same roster) and the Khorne Team has retained a lot of the core ideas/rules but in lore terms had its Daemons replaced with mortal players. If the Leap meme team that is Slaan is going to get a direct GW equivalent and what form that might take (Squig Hoppers?!), who knows?

    There's not really such a thing as being 'tied to current ranges' when it comes to Blood Bowl given the setting/miniature range it is a pastiche of no longer exists (or at least it won't until The Old World is released) so I don't think that's likely to be a reasoning for replacing long standing things like High Elves. As much as the Blood Bowl devs have made some changes that don't necessarily always go down that well, they haven't dramatically altered the game and, based on previous discussion on live streams etc., are more than aware of the popularity of Norse and Chaos Dwarfs in particular so can't see those 2 getting replaced at least.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 14:00:25


    Post by: Kanluwen


    Beast won.


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    Post by: beast_gts


     Kanluwen wrote:
    Beast won.
    We're all winners


    Start times:
    Spoiler:


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    Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


    Yay! Necromunda! Yay! Horus Heresy!


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 14:07:22


    Post by: Wha-Mu-077


    Could it be? THE box for HH?


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 14:08:19


    Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


    Hopefully. There are no more non-Daemon Primarchs to come?


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 14:15:01


    Post by: Gert


    AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
    Heresy babeeeeeee


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 14:23:19


    Post by: lord_blackfang


    Most excited for Necromunda, AFAIK we have everything from the last roadmap and there's no obvious place to go next, so it should be very interesting.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 14:27:44


    Post by: The Phazer


    So, I'd imagine -

    40k

    The rest of the Eldar, including the Avatar, Shining Spears, Warlocks, Maugen Ra and some other bits. Maybe some Chaos Knights.

    Kill Team

    The Warzone: Nachmund box set

    Necromunda

    Nothing obvious. Ash wastes? Ratskins? Genestealers?

    Horus Heresy

    The big boxed game I guess

    AoS

    Maybe just another Battletome or two for a faction that's not getting much model wise. Idoneth or Nighthaunt?


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 14:31:47


    Post by: Eldarsif


     The Phazer wrote:


    Maybe just another Battletome or two for a faction that's not getting much model wise. Idoneth or Nighthaunt?


    Idoneth and Fyreslayers. They just got a dual box with one new kit each. I surmise we'll see a reveal of their books and maybe some endless spells for Idoneth.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 14:33:57


    Post by: jojo_monkey_boy


    There are still a number of unreleased units for HH, as well as the possibility for new legion praetors, given that they've been trickling those out.

    I don't think we will see the boxed game yet. It feels too early.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/24 14:47:39


    Post by: xttz


     The Phazer wrote:
    So, I'd imagine -

    40k

    The rest of the Eldar, including the Avatar, Shining Spears, Warlocks, Maugen Ra and some other bits. Maybe some Chaos Knights.

    Necromunda

    Nothing obvious. Ash wastes? Ratskins? Genestealers?


    They'll likely keep some Eldar back for a few more weeks of Monday previews, but we'll likely get official confirmation of the codex, Avatar, and maybe some other models. Chaos Knights seem likely too.

     jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
    There are still a number of unreleased units for HH, as well as the possibility for new legion praetors, given that they've been trickling those out.

    I don't think we will see the boxed game yet. It feels too early.


    We might see a teaser. They could confirm that a new edition is coming but save the full boxed set reveal for Adepticon.


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    Post by: Shadow Walker


    I am most excited to see new plastic HH, Eldar Avatar in full glory, and new kill teams. As @xttz said, I do not expect to see any nids so soon. I would like to be wrong though


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    Post by: Geifer


    Horus Heresy will of course be the announcement of the teaser for the trailer for the reveal of the boxed set. Come back in four previews, if you please.


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    Post by: JWBS


    For HH I'd put my money on FW resin preview, though ofc would not be shocked to see a tease for the HH plastics.


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    Post by: SamusDrake


     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    SamusDrake wrote:
    A new Harlequin model.
    What makes you think a new Harli is coming?


    Well, being a Harlequin player I thought "why not?" and added it to the slate anyway.



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    Post by: chaos0xomega


    SamusDrake wrote:
    Bit of everything I'd imagine. Would be nice to see the following...

    Nighthaunt Battletome.
    A new Harlequin model.
    Cursed City and its first expansion.
    The Eldar Codex & new models.
    New Underworlds warband.
    A solo-coop supplement for AoS.
    Soulblight warband for Warcry.
    Something new and interesting for both Necromunda and Warcry.
    40K Knights.

    ...usually I'd be optimistic for Titanicus but tired of waiting on GW to sort out its shortcomings. As with the long rumoured Horus Heresy starter set, I'd assume that any news would be announced at the Horus Heresy Weekend event if thats even happening this year?


    If they showed all of that, it would be the single largest and most comprehensive preview that GW has ever done, at best you're probably only going to get about half that many reveals.

    Realistically you're getting:

    -Eldar full preview
    -CSM full preview
    -Kill Team Reveal (Eldar v Imperium or Chaos, forget what the rumor was)
    -Idoneth and Fyreslayers Battletom Reveal
    -Imperial and Chaos Knights Reveal
    -Big Horus Heresy Reveal (hopefully)
    -Something for Necromunda, whatever that might be

    I would be surprised if we got much more than that.


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    Post by: Theophony


    With the Primarchs done, maybe we will see a HH Emperor figure, or the Sigilite.



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    Post by: SamusDrake


    chaos0xomega wrote:


    If they showed all of that, it would be the single largest and most comprehensive preview that GW has ever done, at best you're probably only going to get about half that many reveals.

    Realistically you're getting:

    -Eldar full preview
    -CSM full preview
    -Kill Team Reveal (Eldar v Imperium or Chaos, forget what the rumor was)
    -Idoneth and Fyreslayers Battletom Reveal
    -Imperial and Chaos Knights Reveal
    -Big Horus Heresy Reveal (hopefully)
    -Something for Necromunda, whatever that might be

    I would be surprised if we got much more than that.


    Would you know it? First time I play it sensible and keep in mind that 30K stuff is usually shown at its own event, this early in the year, we get a new friggin warhound announced today and some "mysterious" Horus Heresy announcement for Friday!


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    Post by: zamerion




    These images are usually related to what they are going to show. What could it be ?


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    Post by: Kanluwen


    790.M41... "The Vostroyan IX under Graf Toshenko are wiped out defending the factory city of Polia on the planet of Nimbosa from the Tau Commander Brightsword, inspiring the populace to resist the Tau's culture of 'the Greater Good'"



    Worth a small mention that Nimbosa's timeline is all over the place though. There was a mention of another Guard Regiment in plastic aside from the Cadians and Death Korps though?


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    Post by: Segersgia


     Kanluwen wrote:
    790.M41... "The Vostroyan IX under Graf Toshenko are wiped out defending the factory city of Polia on the planet of Nimbosa from the Tau Commander Brightsword, inspiring the populace to resist the Tau's culture of 'the Greater Good'"



    Worth a small mention that Nimbosa's timeline is all over the place though. There was a mention of another Guard Regiment in plastic aside from the Cadians and Death Korps though?


    Would agree, but that event is the only thing connected to that specific year.

    Weird that they choose something like this. It got me kind of excited.

    So, if this means Vostroyans, what we expecting? Kill Team or actual 40k?


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    Post by: chaos0xomega


    I hope its not plastic vostroyans, only because I already own over 200 metal ones and I would have a really hard time justifying to myself buying more, while at the same time having a really really hard time trying to convince myself NOT to buy more.


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    Post by: Geifer


    Hmm. Would be cool if we actually got plastic Vostroyans. Hope it's true.


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    Post by: Shakalooloo


    JimmyWolf87 wrote:


    The Bretonnians have since been directly replaced by the GW Imperial Nobles team (with about 80% of the same roster) and the Khorne Team has retained a lot of the core ideas/rules but in lore terms had its Daemons replaced with mortal players. If the Leap meme team that is Slaan is going to get a direct GW equivalent and what form that might take (Squig Hoppers?!), who knows?


    In the video games, the Slann were represented by a Kislevite Circus team that used the exact same stats. Instead of a Kroxigor they had a performing bear that whipped people with its chain to represent the prehensile tail.
    Spoiler:


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    Post by: JWBS


    There's a lizardman team in that game too.


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    Post by: soviet13


    Seems very unlikely we'd get Vostroyans when Krieg haven't been expanded into a full range yet, and Catachans still need work. How many IG regiments do we think they can reasonably support?


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    Post by: Kanluwen


    soviet13 wrote:
    Seems very unlikely we'd get Vostroyans when Krieg haven't been expanded into a full range yet, and Catachans still need work. How many IG regiments do we think they can reasonably support?

    Depends upon how the reworked army book is set up?


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    Post by: chaos0xomega


    soviet13 wrote:
    Seems very unlikely we'd get Vostroyans when Krieg haven't been expanded into a full range yet, and Catachans still need work. How many IG regiments do we think they can reasonably support?


    The at this point 100% accurate rumors that should be taken as gospel indicates that there would be updated Cadians ("veteran style" - this was before the upgrade sprue was released, so its unclear if theres more to come on that front or if that is it, although the rumor source indicated that Kasrkin would return), plus "two new regiments are also in the works", so yeah it seems very likely we're going to get Krieg (I would guess them to be one of the two regiments being worked on) plus another one (possibly Vostroyans).


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    Post by: endlesswaltz123


    Honestly, they should just fundamentally re-work the style of some of the regiments and have dual and/or upgrade kits and get out at least 4 regiments.

    I'd let catchans go to be honest, they just aren't needed. It would be a shame in some respect, but I'd take catachans going and getting Elysians, or tallarn etc.

    Catachans absolutely aren't being binned off though, considering the special models of late, but still.


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    Post by: Irbis


    soviet13 wrote:
    How many IG regiments do we think they can reasonably support?

    Well, they have 8 'troop' boxes (plus multiple elites) for their small AoS side skirmish game, plus about the same in Necromunda, sooo...


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    Post by: JWBS


    soviet13 wrote:
    Seems very unlikely we'd get Vostroyans when Krieg haven't been expanded into a full range yet, and Catachans still need work. How many IG regiments do we think they can reasonably support?

    Depends. If they go for very distinct alternatives, then two at most. If they go for variants of a base model, maybe four or five. If they do a mix (Catchan base with Chem dog variant, Krieg base with Steel Legion variant), then probably somewhere inbetween those numbers.


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    Post by: Voss


    soviet13 wrote:
    Seems very unlikely we'd get Vostroyans when Krieg haven't been expanded into a full range yet, and Catachans still need work. How many IG regiments do we think they can reasonably support?

    Quite a few. Right now a regiment is done with command box+infantry box+heavy weapon box.
    The new Krieg squad has enough bits that a separate command box is pretty unnecessary. Just the heavy weapons team.

    Given how many roles basic infantry can fulfill (squad, command squad, special weapons squad, commander, lieutenant, etc, etc) they're pretty all purpose.
    So it really depends on how... 'generous' GW is feeling? I'm sure a bean-counter somewhere put a line under wherever their prediction for diminishing returns is, but 3-4 regiments with two boxes each doesn't seem unreasonable for a neglected faction.


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    Post by: Gert


    Cadians, Catachans, and Krieg I would say are safe bets for inclusion in the Codex. I would like to think that GW will do what it did last time and feature kitbashes alongside the inclusion of the custom Regimental traits.


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    Post by: CMLR


    SamusDrake wrote:
    Bit of everything I'd imagine. Would be nice to see the following...

    Nighthaunt Battletome.
    A new Harlequin model.
    Cursed City and its first expansion.
    The Eldar Codex & new models.
    New Underworlds warband.
    A solo-coop supplement for AoS.
    Soulblight warband for Warcry.
    Something new and interesting for both Necromunda and Warcry.
    40K Knights.

    ...usually I'd be optimistic for Titanicus but tired of waiting on GW to sort out its shortcomings. As with the long rumoured Horus Heresy starter set, I'd assume that any news would be announced at the Horus Heresy Weekend event if thats even happening this year?


    Quite high in hopium.


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    beast_gts wrote:
     Kanluwen wrote:
    Beast won.

    Start times:
    Spoiler:


    Hate how central time is always left out.


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    Post by: Segersgia


    Catachans were featured so heavily in the Psychic Awakening Echoes that them not getting something in the future would be ridiculous.


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    Post by: Ancient Otter


    It says at the end of this article, that a Kill Team expansion for Viligus is due. Considering every that every Faction is currently, it doesn't really narrow down who is the box:

    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/01/24/abaddon-goes-despoiling-but-faces-an-army-of-the-faithful-in-vigilus-alone/



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    Post by: JWBS


    Voss wrote:
    soviet13 wrote:
    Seems very unlikely we'd get Vostroyans when Krieg haven't been expanded into a full range yet, and Catachans still need work. How many IG regiments do we think they can reasonably support?

    Quite a few. Right now a regiment is done with command box+infantry box+heavy weapon box.
    The new Krieg squad has enough bits that a separate command box is pretty unnecessary. Just the heavy weapons team.

    Given how many roles basic infantry can fulfill (squad, command squad, special weapons squad, commander, lieutenant, etc, etc) they're pretty all purpose.
    So it really depends on how... 'generous' GW is feeling? I'm sure a bean-counter somewhere put a line under wherever their prediction for diminishing returns is, but 3-4 regiments with two boxes each doesn't seem unreasonable for a neglected faction.

    The problem with that (I imagine) is that the different variants would cannibalise each other, so even though there's only 4-5 skus per faction, the expenditure of designing and tooling 4-5 skus (x5 factions) would be a lot less appealing to them that 4-5 (x1 faction), given that there's only so many people interested in buying Guard of any flavour, and the buyers would just stick to the flavour they like best (a problem that space marines have never had due to their unique history of extreme popularity and the relative ease with which the core component of any flavour of marine can be flipped to any other flavour with the addition of a single accessory sprue, and often not even requiring that).


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    Post by: Dudeface


    Ancient Otter wrote:
    It says at the end of this article, that a Kill Team expansion for Viligus is due. Considering every that every Faction is currently, it doesn't really narrow down who is the box:

    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/01/24/abaddon-goes-despoiling-but-faces-an-army-of-the-faithful-in-vigilus-alone/



    It's supposed to be corsairs v possessed iirc


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    Post by: Clockpunk


    JimmyWolf87 wrote:
    If the Leap meme team that is Slaan is going to get a direct GW equivalent and what form that might take (Squig Hoppers?!), who knows?


    I have to say - that would be my crazy bonkers dream (always playing this no matter what) team, lol!

    Edit: hah, and I've just seen a Fb ad for a third party squig rider fantasy football team!


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    Post by: Sabotage!


    My guess is that when IG finally do get a new book and new models, Krieg will be the center of the codex. Cadia was destroyed in the fluff, so it would make sense that they change the poster child.

    My guess for new miniatures would be Krieg Heavy weapons team, Krieg Engineers (in plastic), and Krieg Death Rider (also in plastic). Engineers and Death Riders were really the only units from the Krieg list that made the jump to 9th edition and didn't get sent away to Legends (Death Riders also had some recent art in the new Ork Codex). The current Krieg box has bits you could use to make a command squad.

    As much as I would love to Catachans or Vostroyans getting an update too, I just don't see GW giving that much attention to IG. Almost guaranteed Cadians won't either as they got that upgrade sprue tacked on to their old kit.


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    Post by: Gert


     Sabotage! wrote:
    My guess is that when IG finally do get a new book and new models, Krieg will be the center of the codex. Cadia was destroyed in the fluff, so it would make sense that they change the poster child.

    Two things.
    1 - Good God I hope Krieg doesn't get made the poster child Guard faction. That would be horrendously stupid and do so much damage to the hobby image.
    2 - Cadia is a system, not just a planet. The Cadian Regiments were raised and garrisoned all over the Cadian Gate and sent out into the Galaxy with thousands of Regiments to spare. It was even added in the 8th Ed Codex that many worlds with settled Cadian Regiments took up arms again and raised new Cadian Regiments to get vengeance for their lost homeworld. Then there are the many other Regiments that are trained by Cadian officers, use Cadian gear and Cadian tactics like the Truscan Snowhounds or Faeburn Vanquishers. There is literally no reason for Cadians to not still be the poster faction.


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    Post by: Overread


    Krieg would be fantastic! The IG are already basically a WW1 army and the Krieg are basically a French inspired WW1 designed set of infantry.

    I still think GW should do to IG what they did to Slaves to Darkness and release a series of infantry boxed sets. Each one your basic infantry with heavy support weapons and a few optional parts (eg banner, commander etc...). Setting each one around a different famous group of infantry. They could even throw in some optional decorative parts for putting on tanks and such.

    Then they can do Cadians, Kriege, Catachan and others.


    They don't have to change anything else of the IG line, just release those warpacks for each regiment - a single plastic sprue.


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    Post by: Sabotage!


     Gert wrote:
     Sabotage! wrote:
    My guess is that when IG finally do get a new book and new models, Krieg will be the center of the codex. Cadia was destroyed in the fluff, so it would make sense that they change the poster child.

    Two things.
    1 - Good God I hope Krieg doesn't get made the poster child Guard faction. That would be horrendously stupid and do so much damage to the hobby image.
    2 - Cadia is a system, not just a planet. The Cadian Regiments were raised and garrisoned all over the Cadian Gate and sent out into the Galaxy with thousands of Regiments to spare. It was even added in the 8th Ed Codex that many worlds with settled Cadian Regiments took up arms again and raised new Cadian Regiments to get vengeance for their lost homeworld. Then there are the many other Regiments that are trained by Cadian officers, use Cadian gear and Cadian tactics like the Truscan Snowhounds or Faeburn Vanquishers. There is literally no reason for Cadians to not still be the poster faction.


    1) I'm not saying that they should, or shouldn't do it - I'm predicting that's what they will do. Why exactly would it be horrendously stupid and why would it do so much damage to the hobby image?
    2) Yes, not every Cadian regiment was destroyed. There were several Cadian regiments that survived and there have been regiments trained and outfitted by Cadians since back in 4th edition. But the primary planet (along with most of the Cadian regiments) were destroyed, and their models have not aged well (to be fair - they weren't even great back then) - it would make a lot of sense for GW to move on from them.


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    Post by: Voss


    JWBS wrote:
    Voss wrote:
    soviet13 wrote:
    Seems very unlikely we'd get Vostroyans when Krieg haven't been expanded into a full range yet, and Catachans still need work. How many IG regiments do we think they can reasonably support?

    Quite a few. Right now a regiment is done with command box+infantry box+heavy weapon box.
    The new Krieg squad has enough bits that a separate command box is pretty unnecessary. Just the heavy weapons team.

    Given how many roles basic infantry can fulfill (squad, command squad, special weapons squad, commander, lieutenant, etc, etc) they're pretty all purpose.
    So it really depends on how... 'generous' GW is feeling? I'm sure a bean-counter somewhere put a line under wherever their prediction for diminishing returns is, but 3-4 regiments with two boxes each doesn't seem unreasonable for a neglected faction.

    The problem with that (I imagine) is that the different variants would cannibalise each other, so even though there's only 4-5 skus per faction, the expenditure of designing and tooling 4-5 skus (x5 factions) would be a lot less appealing to them that 4-5 (x1 faction), given that there's only so many people interested in buying Guard of any flavour, and the buyers would just stick to the flavour they like best (a problem that space marines have never had due to their unique history of extreme popularity and the relative ease with which the core component of any flavour of marine can be flipped to any other flavour with the addition of a single accessory sprue, and often not even requiring that).

    Oh. I agree, SKU reluctance will kept guard small and neglected. I expect the current Boring Ones and Atrocities to remain as they are (Cadians and Catachans, for clarity ), Krieg to get fleshed out beyond the KT squad, and _maybe_ one more added along the same lines as Krieg. And that's it. Maybe a new tank (that uses pretty much all the rumor engine bits).

    But they could do more- that's what I meant by 'generous'


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     Sabotage! wrote:
     Gert wrote:
     Sabotage! wrote:
    My guess is that when IG finally do get a new book and new models, Krieg will be the center of the codex. Cadia was destroyed in the fluff, so it would make sense that they change the poster child.

    Two things.
    1 - Good God I hope Krieg doesn't get made the poster child Guard faction. That would be horrendously stupid and do so much damage to the hobby image.
    2 - Cadia is a system, not just a planet. The Cadian Regiments were raised and garrisoned all over the Cadian Gate and sent out into the Galaxy with thousands of Regiments to spare. It was even added in the 8th Ed Codex that many worlds with settled Cadian Regiments took up arms again and raised new Cadian Regiments to get vengeance for their lost homeworld. Then there are the many other Regiments that are trained by Cadian officers, use Cadian gear and Cadian tactics like the Truscan Snowhounds or Faeburn Vanquishers. There is literally no reason for Cadians to not still be the poster faction.


    1) I'm not saying that they should, or shouldn't do it - I'm predicting that's what they will do. Why exactly would it be horrendously stupid and why would it do so much damage to the hobby image?

    Because some people are ahistorical and randomly assume gasmask=WW2 Germans, rather than their actual derivation. Its a kneejerk reaction that doesn't have much place in reality.

    2) Yes, not every Cadian regiment was destroyed. There were several Cadian regiments that survived and there have been regiments trained and outfitted by Cadians since back in 4th edition. But the primary planet (along with most of the Cadian regiments) were destroyed, and their models have not aged well (to be fair - they weren't even great back then) - it would make a lot of sense for GW to move on from them.

    Since they just did the additional sprue, Cadians are more than likely sticking around. Though i expect less narrative focus on them.


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    Post by: Kanluwen


     Sabotage! wrote:
    My guess is that when IG finally do get a new book and new models, Krieg will be the center of the codex. Cadia was destroyed in the fluff, so it would make sense that they change the poster child.

    Ehhh...Cadia, the planet, was fractured.
    Cadia, the sector and system, is still around.

    My guess for new miniatures would be Krieg Heavy weapons team, Krieg Engineers (in plastic), and Krieg Death Rider (also in plastic). Engineers and Death Riders were really the only units from the Krieg list that made the jump to 9th edition and didn't get sent away to Legends (Death Riders also had some recent art in the new Ork Codex). The current Krieg box has bits you could use to make a command squad.

    Grenadiers, Engineers, and Death Riders are all featured in art accompanying the Ork Codex+Octarius Kill Team book.

    At this point I'm actually tentatively thinking some of the stuff I've been wishlisting for might be happening, given that the repacked Cadians and now the DKoK both do not feature a Heavy Weapons Team in them. They have multiple specials though!

    As much as I would love to Catachans or Vostroyans getting an update too, I just don't see GW giving that much attention to IG. Almost guaranteed Cadians won't either as they got that upgrade sprue tacked on to their old kit.

    The upgrade sprue, purportedly, was designed to go with a redone Cadian kit...which is something that the dude who called out DKoK v Kommandos a year out specifically noted. Cadians, Kasrkin, and a new vehicle between LR+Baneblade size.

    Plus, as someone else mentioned, two other Regiments in plastic. It doesn't say full ranges for all of them. Just some Regiments in plastic.

    So far, only the Cadians and Krieg are rumored to have multiple items tied to them--with Krieg having the most.


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    Post by: Gert


     Sabotage! wrote:
    1) I'm not saying that they should, or shouldn't do it - I'm predicting that's what they will do. Why exactly would it be horrendously stupid and why would it do so much damage to the hobby image?

    The Krieg are idolised by the fash elements within the hobby and I'm not saying that everyone that likes the DKoK are fash but the very vocal fash within the community like to use them as outlets for their fashness.

    2) Yes, not every Cadian regiment was destroyed. There were several Cadian regiments that survived and there have been regiments trained and outfitted by Cadians since back in 4th edition. But the primary planet (along with most of the Cadian regiments) were destroyed, and their models have not aged well (to be fair - they weren't even great back then) - it would make a lot of sense for GW to move on from them.

    Replace several with most in that first bit. You're just wrong with your knowledge of the Cadian Regiments.
    Also, the Cadians got a recent upgrade sprue and them not aging well is an opinion, not a fact. It would make 0 sense for GW to can them in favour of DKoK.


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    Post by: Kanluwen


    Voss wrote:

    Oh. I agree, SKU reluctance will kept guard small and neglected. I expect the current Boring Ones and Atrocities to remain as they are (Cadians and Catachans, for clarity ), Krieg to get fleshed out beyond the KT squad, and _maybe_ one more added along the same lines as Krieg. And that's it. Maybe a new tank (that uses pretty much all the rumor engine bits).

    But they could do more- that's what I meant by 'generous'

    The DKoK box is actually stupid good for what's in there. I was able to build out a Command Squad, a Company Commander, a Master of Ordnance, and 2x squads from having split three boxes with people wanting Kommandos+scenery.

    For what's coming, purportedly, for the Krieg? It's shaking out to be 3 boxes(Death Riders, Infantry Squad, Grenadiers/Engineers dual kit), and 3 blisters/small box(Death Rider Officer, Heavy Weapon Team, Commissar).

    Cadians, purportedly, are just a new Cadian box and Kasrkin box.

    2) Yes, not every Cadian regiment was destroyed. There were several Cadian regiments that survived and there have been regiments trained and outfitted by Cadians since back in 4th edition. But the primary planet (along with most of the Cadian regiments) were destroyed, and their models have not aged well (to be fair - they weren't even great back then) - it would make a lot of sense for GW to move on from them.

    Since they just did the additional sprue, Cadians are more than likely sticking around. Though i expect less narrative focus on them.

    I'm thinking if the Cadians that are out now are sticking around?
    It's for the purposes of Conscripts.


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    Post by: Sabotage!


    Voss wrote:
    JWBS wrote:
    Voss wrote:
    soviet13 wrote:
    Seems very unlikely we'd get Vostroyans when Krieg haven't been expanded into a full range yet, and Catachans still need work. How many IG regiments do we think they can reasonably support?

    Quite a few. Right now a regiment is done with command box+infantry box+heavy weapon box.
    The new Krieg squad has enough bits that a separate command box is pretty unnecessary. Just the heavy weapons team.

    Given how many roles basic infantry can fulfill (squad, command squad, special weapons squad, commander, lieutenant, etc, etc) they're pretty all purpose.
    So it really depends on how... 'generous' GW is feeling? I'm sure a bean-counter somewhere put a line under wherever their prediction for diminishing returns is, but 3-4 regiments with two boxes each doesn't seem unreasonable for a neglected faction.

    The problem with that (I imagine) is that the different variants would cannibalise each other, so even though there's only 4-5 skus per faction, the expenditure of designing and tooling 4-5 skus (x5 factions) would be a lot less appealing to them that 4-5 (x1 faction), given that there's only so many people interested in buying Guard of any flavour, and the buyers would just stick to the flavour they like best (a problem that space marines have never had due to their unique history of extreme popularity and the relative ease with which the core component of any flavour of marine can be flipped to any other flavour with the addition of a single accessory sprue, and often not even requiring that).

    Oh. I agree, SKU reluctance will kept guard small and neglected. I expect the current Boring Ones and Atrocities to remain as they are (Cadians and Catachans, for clarity ), Krieg to get fleshed out beyond the KT squad, and _maybe_ one more added along the same lines as Krieg. And that's it. Maybe a new tank (that uses pretty much all the rumor engine bits).

    But they could do more- that's what I meant by 'generous'


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
     Sabotage! wrote:
     Gert wrote:
     Sabotage! wrote:
    My guess is that when IG finally do get a new book and new models, Krieg will be the center of the codex. Cadia was destroyed in the fluff, so it would make sense that they change the poster child.

    Two things.
    1 - Good God I hope Krieg doesn't get made the poster child Guard faction. That would be horrendously stupid and do so much damage to the hobby image.
    2 - Cadia is a system, not just a planet. The Cadian Regiments were raised and garrisoned all over the Cadian Gate and sent out into the Galaxy with thousands of Regiments to spare. It was even added in the 8th Ed Codex that many worlds with settled Cadian Regiments took up arms again and raised new Cadian Regiments to get vengeance for their lost homeworld. Then there are the many other Regiments that are trained by Cadian officers, use Cadian gear and Cadian tactics like the Truscan Snowhounds or Faeburn Vanquishers. There is literally no reason for Cadians to not still be the poster faction.


    1) I'm not saying that they should, or shouldn't do it - I'm predicting that's what they will do. Why exactly would it be horrendously stupid and why would it do so much damage to the hobby image?

    Because some people are ahistorical and randomly assume gasmask=WW2 Germans, rather than their actual derivation. Its a kneejerk reaction that doesn't have much place in reality.

    2) Yes, not every Cadian regiment was destroyed. There were several Cadian regiments that survived and there have been regiments trained and outfitted by Cadians since back in 4th edition. But the primary planet (along with most of the Cadian regiments) were destroyed, and their models have not aged well (to be fair - they weren't even great back then) - it would make a lot of sense for GW to move on from them.

    Since they just did the additional sprue, Cadians are more than likely sticking around. Though i expect less narrative focus on them.


    I wouldn't see Gas masked WW1 trench soldiers (French inspired none the less) being too much an issue among the wargaming industry. I guess there is a demographic of people out there who have no knowledge of history and get all their ideas what Nazis look like from horror movies. It also is an industry where people actively play Nazi armies in historicals (which is insane to me.....but that's another topic all together).

    Oh, I think Cadians will stick around, I just don't seem them getting any more updates.


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    Post by: Voss


    Basically.

    I'll admit that my personal fondness for Krieg stems directly from my hatred of painting human faces. lips and eyes just... yeah, no.


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    Post by: Sabotage!


     Gert wrote:
     Sabotage! wrote:
    1) I'm not saying that they should, or shouldn't do it - I'm predicting that's what they will do. Why exactly would it be horrendously stupid and why would it do so much damage to the hobby image?

    The Krieg are idolised by the fash elements within the hobby and I'm not saying that everyone that likes the DKoK are fash but the very vocal fash within the community like to use them as outlets for their fashness.

    2) Yes, not every Cadian regiment was destroyed. There were several Cadian regiments that survived and there have been regiments trained and outfitted by Cadians since back in 4th edition. But the primary planet (along with most of the Cadian regiments) were destroyed, and their models have not aged well (to be fair - they weren't even great back then) - it would make a lot of sense for GW to move on from them.

    Replace several with most in that first bit. You're just wrong with your knowledge of the Cadian Regiments.
    Also, the Cadians got a recent upgrade sprue and them not aging well is an opinion, not a fact. It would make 0 sense for GW to can them in favour of DKoK.


    I mean, I don't associate with people that are fascists, so I don't know what the 40k fascists are in to (nor would I even know where to look), but there isn't really anything more fascist about the DKoK than the rest of the Imperium (which in general is mega fascist). The models themselves are inspired by Republican French Soldiers and Imperial German Soldiers from the First World War.

    I'm not a Cadian fanatic, I don't know how many Cadian regiments are out there in the 40k universe. The last 40k fluff I recall that featured Cadians had most of the Cadian regiments defending Cadia as it was pretty much the most important fortress planet in the Imperium. To be fair I don't really care enough to go and look up what percentage of Cadian regiments survived the destruction of the planet.

    I mean, you can argue that they have aged well, and maybe you like the look of miniatures that have hands as big as their torsos - but I think you wouldn't find a lot of people who would agree that a Cadian is a good looking miniature next to pretty much anything GW has put out in plastic in the last 15 years. I mean if you compare them to one of the new Krieg, or even one of the old Perry metals (from really any of the Guard lines) their proportions are terrible. Them getting an upgrade sprue pretty much guarantees they aren't getting a resculpt unfortunately. I don't think GW will ditch the model line, I just think they are no longer going to be front in center as newer and better sculpted Guard are in the market.


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    Post by: Sasori


    chaos0xomega wrote:
    SamusDrake wrote:
    Bit of everything I'd imagine. Would be nice to see the following...

    Nighthaunt Battletome.
    A new Harlequin model.
    Cursed City and its first expansion.
    The Eldar Codex & new models.
    New Underworlds warband.
    A solo-coop supplement for AoS.
    Soulblight warband for Warcry.
    Something new and interesting for both Necromunda and Warcry.
    40K Knights.

    ...usually I'd be optimistic for Titanicus but tired of waiting on GW to sort out its shortcomings. As with the long rumoured Horus Heresy starter set, I'd assume that any news would be announced at the Horus Heresy Weekend event if thats even happening this year?


    If they showed all of that, it would be the single largest and most comprehensive preview that GW has ever done, at best you're probably only going to get about half that many reveals.

    Realistically you're getting:

    -Eldar full preview
    -CSM full preview
    -Kill Team Reveal (Eldar v Imperium or Chaos, forget what the rumor was)
    -Idoneth and Fyreslayers Battletom Reveal
    -Imperial and Chaos Knights Reveal
    -Big Horus Heresy Reveal (hopefully)
    -Something for Necromunda, whatever that might be

    I would be surprised if we got much more than that.


    I'd honestly be shocked if we got that much. I'm half expecting the Chaos Knight to be the only Chaos thing and be pleasantly suprised if we get anything else.


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    Post by: SamusDrake


     CMLR wrote:


    Quite high in hopium.



    Yes, I made that post before they announced what games would be covered.

    Warcry and Warhammer Quest are no longer part of the line up whereas Horus Heresy is.


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    Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


    Seems no silhouette today, so we might conclude we’re being kept entirely in the dark until it’s show time.


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    Post by: ImAGeek


     Sasori wrote:
    chaos0xomega wrote:
    SamusDrake wrote:
    Bit of everything I'd imagine. Would be nice to see the following...

    Nighthaunt Battletome.
    A new Harlequin model.
    Cursed City and its first expansion.
    The Eldar Codex & new models.
    New Underworlds warband.
    A solo-coop supplement for AoS.
    Soulblight warband for Warcry.
    Something new and interesting for both Necromunda and Warcry.
    40K Knights.

    ...usually I'd be optimistic for Titanicus but tired of waiting on GW to sort out its shortcomings. As with the long rumoured Horus Heresy starter set, I'd assume that any news would be announced at the Horus Heresy Weekend event if thats even happening this year?


    If they showed all of that, it would be the single largest and most comprehensive preview that GW has ever done, at best you're probably only going to get about half that many reveals.

    Realistically you're getting:

    -Eldar full preview
    -CSM full preview
    -Kill Team Reveal (Eldar v Imperium or Chaos, forget what the rumor was)
    -Idoneth and Fyreslayers Battletom Reveal
    -Imperial and Chaos Knights Reveal
    -Big Horus Heresy Reveal (hopefully)
    -Something for Necromunda, whatever that might be

    I would be surprised if we got much more than that.


    I'd honestly be shocked if we got that much. I'm half expecting the Chaos Knight to be the only Chaos thing and be pleasantly suprised if we get anything else.


    Yeah. I’m definitely not expecting 2 ‘full previews’, as well as both flavours of Knight, for 40k, and I’m not even really expecting a full Eldar preview seeing as they’ve already said there’s another ‘Path of the Preview’ next Monday (although it could be into rules or just a closer look at something they show Friday). Maybe a full Eldar preview and a chaos tease, at a push.


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    Post by: endlesswaltz123


    Krieg are an interesting faction with facist undertones, but it is important to form the distinction between their doctrine/ideology and Nazi Germany (Though I get they are facist in accordance with the WWI era aspect of facism).

    Absolutely a problem if they become the poster child of AM... It's not a good look.


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    Post by: Wha-Mu-077


    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    chaos0xomega wrote:
    -Eldar full preview
    -CSM full preview
    -Kill Team Reveal (Eldar v Imperium or Chaos, forget what the rumor was)
    -Idoneth and Fyreslayers Battletom Reveal
    -Imperial and Chaos Knights Reveal
    -Big Horus Heresy Reveal (hopefully)
    -Something for Necromunda, whatever that might be


    I would be surprised if we got much more than that.
    That already seems like too much for a GW preview.

    chaos0xomega wrote:
    -Eldar full preview
    -CSM full preview
    Do you really think they'll do both?


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    Post by: endlesswaltz123


     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Nothing, I just think it's more of a problem when they not only act, but look like Fascists also...


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    Post by: Dysartes


    Just touching on the Chaos Knight/Imperial Knight books - I've heard mention of a model for the spikey side of the fence, but has there been any talk of the Imperial side getting anything this time around?

    If IK are just getting a book, then a CK/IK double-pack preview would be possible.


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    I think Chaos Knights are playing catch-up with Imperial Knights. A new IK release would maintain the gap.

     Kanluwen wrote:
    The DKoK box is actually stupid good for what's in there. I was able to build out a Command Squad, a Company Commander, a Master of Ordnance, and 2x squads from having split three boxes with people wanting Kommandos+scenery.
    But it's a "Veteran Guardsmen" box. A Kill Team branded box.

    I'd imagine that a DKoK box wouldn't include that accessory sprue, and would just be the basic guys. The main sprue already has all the special weapons.



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    Post by: Kanluwen


     Dysartes wrote:
    Just touching on the Chaos Knight/Imperial Knight books - I've heard mention of a model for the spikey side of the fence, but has there been any talk of the Imperial side getting anything this time around?

    If IK are just getting a book, then a CK/IK double-pack preview would be possible.

    There has not been any mention of a new model for the Imperial side of things. I'm guessing they're trying to add a bit of parity to the CK/IK side of things by possibly adding a "character" Chaos Knight.

    They're both currently tied outside of Canis Rex being a thing.


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    Post by: MajorWesJanson


    For hours heresy, maybe the dire wolf titan in 28mm scale?


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    Post by: Thargrim


     endlesswaltz123 wrote:
     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Nothing, I just think it's more of a problem when they not only act, but look like Fascists also...


    Yeah, well it's a good thing this is a piece of fiction and not reality, right? If people cannot discern real problems from a work of fiction that's on them.


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


     Thargrim wrote:
    Yeah, well it's a good thing this is a piece of fiction and not reality, right? If people cannot discern real problems from a work of fiction that's on them.
    There's a whole sub-reddit for 40k fans who can't separate fiction from reality. I won't say its name here...




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    Post by: SamusDrake


     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Being just peckish, I'd have to go with Tyranids.


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    Post by: Wha-Mu-077


    SamusDrake wrote:
     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Being just peckish, I'd have to go with Tyranids.


    Endless expansion to subjugate and eliminate other races? Sounds fascist to me.


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    Can we not?


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    Post by: SamusDrake


     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:


    Endless expansion to subjugate and eliminate other races? Sounds fascist to me.


    I'll take your word for it.

    What are you looking forward to most on Friday?


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    Post by: Overread


     H.B.M.C. wrote:
     Thargrim wrote:
    Yeah, well it's a good thing this is a piece of fiction and not reality, right? If people cannot discern real problems from a work of fiction that's on them.
    There's a whole sub-reddit for 40k fans who can't separate fiction from reality. I won't say it's name here...



    There's a whole sub-reddit for almost ANYTHING.
    Heck I suspect there's a whole sub-reddit dedicated to Mr Boopers

    It's like saying there's a whole twitter account or Facebook page - they are so easy to setup and so easy to join (which is why they are big social media blocks) that any interest group can set one up. Even if you've only a handful of people who can just chatter away for hours you can get one going.






    In happier news for the LVO - I wonder if the first CC expansion we see will involve the character that already got released or if we'll see some brand new models that are totally new.


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    Post by: Sabotage!


     Overread wrote:



    In happier news for the LVO - I wonder if the first CC expansion we see will involve the character that already got released or if we'll see some brand new models that are totally new.


    That's a great question - I'm not sure on the characters, but I think the enemies will be based on that map they had on the website. For example there was an area that sound like it was full of Nighthaunt and what not.

    Makes me wonder if I will pick up CC. It's appealing, but it's another one of those "one and done" printings I might pass because I'm going to have lots of Eldar to buy for 40k, and I want a few more tanks for my Guard.


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    Post by: JWBS


     Overread wrote:


    There's a whole sub-reddit for almost ANYTHING.

    Yeah that's true. Quite weak and obscure arguments against DkoK imo, reminiscent of the Satanic Panic and made all the more bizarre given they're coming from people who've more likely than not enjoyed the lore and aesthetic themselves at some time, to some extent. Like, Hey guys, this is too dangerous. In current year it's not okay. I know what it is, and you know what it is, and we know what it's not, but the implications for what it could mean to anyone that's in the know (as are you and I), who don't know what it is, who might be confused, or want it to mean something that it doesn't, well that just doesn't bare thinking about really.


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    Post by: CMLR


    Wouldn't it be crazy to reveals a new DP based on the TWWH3 with the same metric ton of choices?

    Only 888.88! Quids!


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    Post by: Overread


    Demon Prince is one of the weaker Chaos sculpts, esp now that they've really gone to town with the greater demons. I'd love to have a revised demon prince or even four of them (one per god) to really give them a more varied set of appearances.

    Heck I already picked up an older metal Slaanesh Greater Demon model just to use a demon prince proxy because it looks (in my view) way better and its of the right size.


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    On the other hand, one of the stipulations made by GW to CA about their build-a-prince Daemon Prince is that his initial model match the one they sell.



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    Post by: jaredb


    Really excited to see what is coming next for underworlds!


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


     jaredb wrote:
    Really excited to see what is coming next for underworlds!
    They're not previewing Underworlds:



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    Post by: chaos0xomega


    Do you really think they'll do both?


    No reason not to? We already know Chaos and Eldar are coming next, we've already seen previews of 2 new kits for Chaos plus whatever theyve shown for Aeldari. Makes sense that they would use this opportunity to expand on that more than it does that they would show us something entirely new and unannounced.

    We're also due for the KT reveal for this quarter, so this is as good a time as any and it matches with how the previous 2 were revealed (online preview things for both).

    Idoneth amd Fyreslayers battletome reveal is low effort, we know theyre getting new books because fury of the deep. The reveal will be like the grey knights/thousand sons/black templars reveal, they'll show us the cover art , maybe even as part of a battletome roadmap type thing where they teade the next battletome after with an abstract image of a pirate that the community will spend a month debating about whether its teasing vampirates or ogor pirates or skaven pirates or grot sky pirates, etc before they finally reveal it to be cities of sigmar.

    Imperial/Chaos Knights reveal will be the same, theyll almost definitely show us cover art for eldar and csm books, the question is whether theyll show usart for knights or just a black box woth the faction symbols.

    Really I think only Necromunda and HH have any potential of being something substantial.


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    I think we'll get whatever Eldar haven't been shown yet, plus Chaos Knights and maybe a teaser for Guard or something like that (like one of those animated ones that show nothing off). If we see a Chaos Codex/Chaos line, I'll be amazed.

    After all, some rumours state that the Chosen in the upcoming box are still W1, meaning our 'Dex is a long way off.



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    Post by: endlesswaltz123


     Thargrim wrote:
     endlesswaltz123 wrote:
     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Nothing, I just think it's more of a problem when they not only act, but look like Fascists also...


    Yeah, well it's a good thing this is a piece of fiction and not reality, right? If people cannot discern real problems from a work of fiction that's on them.


    I'm building a DKOK force so I'm not against them at all. I do want them to be partially under the radar though. Whilst I appreciate that people get the wrong end of the stick, if enough people get the wrong end of the stick it can be quite damaging, for the faction and for those who have the forces.

    It would probably blow over quite quick so it's a moot point really, but yeah. I think it would be wise to protect DKOK in some respect by not making them the poster child of the guard.


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    Post by: Thargrim


     endlesswaltz123 wrote:
     Thargrim wrote:
     endlesswaltz123 wrote:
     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Nothing, I just think it's more of a problem when they not only act, but look like Fascists also...


    Yeah, well it's a good thing this is a piece of fiction and not reality, right? If people cannot discern real problems from a work of fiction that's on them.


    I'm building a DKOK force so I'm not against them at all. I do want them to be partially under the radar though. Whilst I appreciate that people get the wrong end of the stick, if enough people get the wrong end of the stick it can be quite damaging, for the faction and for those who have the forces.

    It would probably blow over quite quick so it's a moot point really, but yeah. I think it would be wise to protect DKOK in some respect by not making them the poster child of the guard.


    I don't think they should be the poster child either. I think Cadians fit the bill well enough. I don't actually mind the current cadian minis that much, they are old but the actual art design of them is great, gives off vibes from starship troopeers, aliens and so on. I also wouldn't mind seeing plastic vostroyans, and other guard regiments as well.


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    Post by: ImAGeek


     Overread wrote:


    In happier news for the LVO - I wonder if the first CC expansion we see will involve the character that already got released or if we'll see some brand new models that are totally new.


    I’m pretty sure Warhammer Quest had its own banner in the past when it was being previewed, so I don’t think we’ll see anything.


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    Post by: Sabotage!


     Thargrim wrote:
     endlesswaltz123 wrote:
     Thargrim wrote:
     endlesswaltz123 wrote:
     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Nothing, I just think it's more of a problem when they not only act, but look like Fascists also...


    Yeah, well it's a good thing this is a piece of fiction and not reality, right? If people cannot discern real problems from a work of fiction that's on them.


    I'm building a DKOK force so I'm not against them at all. I do want them to be partially under the radar though. Whilst I appreciate that people get the wrong end of the stick, if enough people get the wrong end of the stick it can be quite damaging, for the faction and for those who have the forces.

    It would probably blow over quite quick so it's a moot point really, but yeah. I think it would be wise to protect DKOK in some respect by not making them the poster child of the guard.


    I don't think they should be the poster child either. I think Cadians fit the bill well enough. I don't actually mind the current cadian minis that much, they are old but the actual art design of them is great, gives off vibes from starship troopeers, aliens and so on. I also wouldn't mind seeing plastic vostroyans, and other guard regiments as well.


    Cadians are an excellent poster child for the Guard from a design perspective...in the art they look great. Heck even the Plastic Command Squad minis are nice. I just don't see GW keeping them as such with how old the plastic infantry box is, and considering we got an upgrade sprue, the chances of the Infantry box getting a resculpt any time soon seem about nil. I just suspect we are going to get DKoK as the poster child because they have a (rather excellent) new plastic kit, and I just can't see GW showing off those (rather bad) Cadian sculpts compared to a new well-proportioned Guard kit. If GW decided to support more Guard regiments in plastic I could easily see the other new regiment being front and center, but I think Cadians are at the bottom of the list because they are the regiment least likely to get a new core infantry kit.


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    Post by: drbored


     Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
    How do!

    So GW have confirmed we’re in for a LVO preview show this Thursday/Friday, depending where you are in this big wide world.

    Fairly low-key announcement so far, being tucked away at the bottom of this week’s Sunday pre-order preview article.

    Wonder if we might see an attempt at a hype train in the coming days, with silhouettes and that.


    Considering the last couple of 'reveals' were pretty light, maybe this is them trying to tone down the hype before things get out of hand.


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    Post by: Geifer


     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    I think we'll get whatever Eldar haven't been shown yet, plus Chaos Knights and maybe a teaser for Guard or something like that (like one of those animated ones that show nothing off). If we see a Chaos Codex/Chaos line, I'll be amazed.

    After all, some rumours state that the Chosen in the upcoming box are still W1, meaning our 'Dex is a long way off.



    I wonder if the Path of the Preview will actually prevent a major Eldar reveal. Just a token big one like the Avatar so Eldar players don't feel left out, but overall a focus on the other known faction that doesn't get its weekly previews and therefore uses the event avenue instead. So I think there may actually be a greater likelihood of a more substantial Chaos than Eldar preview. If, of course, GW is inclined to do "substantial". Can't be sure of that these days.


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    There's only one more Monday this month, so maybe they'll show the Codex/Ra/Shining Spears at the preview, leaving the Avatar for the final Monday reveal.


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    Post by: Geifer


    Oh, was the Eldar preview series supposed to be restricted to January? I didn't know that.


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    Post by: MajorWesJanson


    They could show off the codex cover and avatar, leaving the other units for previews


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    Post by: xttz


     Geifer wrote:
    Oh, was the Eldar preview series supposed to be restricted to January? I didn't know that.


    There wasn't any definite end date on it, WarCom described them as a "weekly series of articles".

    I assume at least the Avatar & Corsair Kill Team will be shown off at LVO, which leaves us with Maugan Ra & Shining Spears for Jan 31st / Feb 7th. That would neatly take us through to the supposed codex release date in mid-late Feb.

    After claiming that there are no other new models to show, the Discord leaker also specifically stated "I'm not giving too much informations to avoid troubles. Might also be giving some false informations ", so it's possible there are more new models we haven't yet seen. Interestingly he refused to show the Warp Spiders datasheet and said he could only post a partial image of the Wave Serpent one, in the same way as for Corsairs. Read into that what you will...


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    Post by: Kanluwen



    And here's today's teaser image.

    So yesterday was 40k. Today's Newcromunda.


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    Post by: RedRowan


    Thinking the green text could be 'The Ash Wastes'?

    Steve


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    Post by: Mentlegen324


     endlesswaltz123 wrote:
     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Nothing, I just think it's more of a problem when they not only act, but look like Fascists also...


    Krieg's look isn't based off any 1 particular thing, they're an amalgamation of various WW1 elements.


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    Post by: Platuan4th


     RedRowan wrote:
    Thinking the green text could be 'The Ash Wastes'?

    Steve


    Only if "Ash" is suddenly spelled "Ache" in universe.


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    Post by: RedRowan


     Platuan4th wrote:
    Only if "Ash" is suddenly spelled "Ache" in universe.


    I thought the top word may actually be 'the'.

    Steve


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    Post by: Platuan4th


    That would be a hell of a tail on that t.


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    Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


    Acheron Hive?



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    Post by: Kanluwen


     Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
    Acheron Hive?


    Is there an Acheron Hive on Necromunda?
    I know there's one on Armageddon, but I don't remember one for Necromunda.

    I'd think that "Escher" would be a better fit for the top word.


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    Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


    I was thinking of Armageddon! Silly me.


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
    Probably just reads “Escher Rules!”


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    Post by: NAVARRO


     Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
    Acheron Hive?



    I read Under hive


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    Post by: Kanluwen


    "Underhive" is down at the bottom.

    "che"
    "es" is on the top, in a neon green.

    Then there's, in black, a Helmawr icon I guess?


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    Post by: Gert


    The icon on the right is just the Necromunda symbol.


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    Post by: Dr. Mills


    Hoping they give out some info on Renegade Knights, in when the codex will drop, but also any new models to go with it!

    My top three hopes:
    1. Specific Renegade War Dogs Box with options for both weapon sets in it

    2. Stand alone weapon sprue for current Renegade Knights to model all weapon options on the new chassis

    3. A proper renegade Knight Castellan, with reverse knees to match the aesthetic of the smaller knights


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
    Hoping they give out some info on Renegade Knights, in when the codex will drop, but also any new models to go with it!

    My top three hopes:
    1. Specific Renegade War Dogs Box with options for both weapon sets in it

    2. Stand alone weapon sprue for current Renegade Knights to model all weapon options on the new chassis

    3. A proper renegade Knight Castellan, with reverse knees to match the aesthetic of the smaller knights


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    Post by: chaos0xomega


     Mentlegen324 wrote:
     endlesswaltz123 wrote:
     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Nothing, I just think it's more of a problem when they not only act, but look like Fascists also...


    Krieg's look isn't based off any 1 particular thing, they're an amalgamation of various WW1 elements.


    Thats being generous (or something), from the neck down they are almost entirely (and I only say almost because I'm sure someone will find *something* that isn't quite right) french in design, just with an aquila thrown on there and a laser gun instead of the trusty Lebel 1886.


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    Post by: Theophony


     Kanluwen wrote:
     Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
    Acheron Hive?


    Is there an Acheron Hive on Necromunda?
    I know there's one on Armageddon, but I don't remember one for Necromunda.

    I'd think that "Escher" would be a better fit for the top word.


    NEW
    ESCHER
    RULES
    5.0 CONFIRMED


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    Post by: chaos0xomega


    I think it either says "Escher Rules" or "Escher Lives"


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    Post by: xttz


     Theophony wrote:
     Kanluwen wrote:
     Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
    Acheron Hive?


    Is there an Acheron Hive on Necromunda?
    I know there's one on Armageddon, but I don't remember one for Necromunda.

    I'd think that "Escher" would be a better fit for the top word.


    NEW
    ESCHER
    RULES
    5.0 CONFIRMED


    New Necromunda terrain confirmed

    Spoiler:


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    Post by: JWBS


    chaos0xomega wrote:
     Mentlegen324 wrote:
     endlesswaltz123 wrote:
     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    What in 40k doesn't have fascist undertones?


    Nothing, I just think it's more of a problem when they not only act, but look like Fascists also...


    Krieg's look isn't based off any 1 particular thing, they're an amalgamation of various WW1 elements.


    Thats being generous (or something), from the neck down they are almost entirely (and I only say almost because I'm sure someone will find *something* that isn't quite right) french in design, just with an aquila thrown on there and a laser gun instead of the trusty Lebel 1886.

    I've thought about it a little and I think it's 100% to do with the fact that an actual Nazi played them one time, and that story got picked up, and some people chose to hyperfocus on that singular event, and now that's the paradigm (for a small element in the wider community at least). It's a narrative that some people want to maintain, and that's all.

    It's not the masks, there's loads of gasmask troops, there's even masked troops with a Germanic name (the Dream Forge ones, I forget what they're called), but nobody ever proxied Dream Forge as Nazis, so there's no narrative to push. It's not the trench coats, again, there's loads of great coat troops around, and since there's never been a trench coat nazi proxy 'event' to gain traction here there is no narrative to push. It's entirely down to the fact that it happened once with Krieg, and so now that is what some people want Krieg to be.

    I remember the same thing in Old Dakka when a guy did it with Jin Roh brigade models, and people got real upset with Jin Roh because of that one event, and for a while anyone with Jin Roh elements in their models were then somehow suspect. I reckon the only reason that's been forgotten is because Jin Roh isn't a thing anymore, but Krieg is, so Krieg gets the label now.


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    Post by: Wha-Mu-077


    If GW really cared about outrage and political undertones of their armies they wouldn't simultenously update Black Templars, Kriegers and Orks.


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    Post by: Gert


    JWBS wrote:

    I've thought about it a little and I think it's 100% to do with the fact that an actual Nazi played them one time, and that story got picked up, and some people chose to hyperfocus on that singular event, and now that's the paradigm (for a small element in the wider community at least). It's a narrative that some people want to maintain, and that's all.

    It's not the masks, there's loads of gasmask troops, there's even masked troops with a Germanic name (the Dream Forge ones, I forget what they're called), but nobody ever proxied Dream Forge as Nazis, so there's no narrative to push. It's not the trench coats, again, there's loads of great coat troops around, and since there's never been a trench coat nazi proxy 'event' to gain traction here there is no narrative to push. It's entirely down to the fact that it happened once with Krieg, and so now that is what some people want Krieg to be.

    I remember the same thing in Old Dakka when a guy did it with Jin Roh brigade models, and people got real upset with Jin Roh because of that one event, and for a while anyone with Jin Roh elements in their models were then somehow suspect. I reckon the only reason that's been forgotten is because Jin Roh isn't a thing anymore, but Krieg is, so Krieg gets the label now.

    I mean it's also because they're frequently used as idols by the fash in this hobby just like the Black Templars are. It's to do with the sacrifice thing the Krieg have and the fash turn it into part of their fetish. They take blind extreme fanatic loyalty to a horrific regime as something to aspire to and as part of their spiel about being oppressed they all want to die in service of the defence of their homeland.
    Does it make sense? No but they're the fash, they're idiots.


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    Post by: JWBS


    I've never seen this done with BT. I've seen it mentioned (here), but I've never seen this sentiment anywhere else. I'd be interested to see it though, if you have a link to some BT controversy.


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    Post by: Gert


    JWBS wrote:
    I've never seen this done with BT. I've seen it mentioned (here), but I've never seen this sentiment anywhere else. I'd be interested to see it though, if you have a link to some BT controversy.

    Honestly, I'd rather not and I genuinely envy that you've never witnessed it. I'm not trying to hide anything I just don't want to:
    A - Look for it because *vomit*
    B - I don't it's entirely appropriate to link fash memes to this site


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    Post by: clodax66


    everybody don't forget we also have adepticon in two months. They always have a big preview at adepticon. I believe everything they will show at LVO is things that are coming out in the next 2-3 months. Everything leading up to summer will be show at adepticon. At least that is my guess from experience


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    Post by: Tastyfish


    "Summer" in this time of Corona and the Shipping Crisis being anything from June 2020 to Winter 2023


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    Post by: CMLR


     jaredb wrote:
    Really excited to see what is coming next for underworlds!


    See you in AdeptiCon... unless they don't show nothing there either...


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    Post by: Voss


     clodax66 wrote:
    everybody don't forget we also have adepticon in two months. They always have a big preview at adepticon. I believe everything they will show at LVO is things that are coming out in the next 2-3 months. Everything leading up to summer will be show at adepticon. At least that is my guess from experience


    Eh. If the last two years are any kind of precedent, the 'big previews' will actually be lots of teeny-tiny ones that satisfy nobody.


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    Which is why I keep saying: A GW preview is a regular preview in slow motion.

    The preview tomorrow will spend a lot of time showing very little. So will the Adepticon one.

    But together, combined, they're a full massive preview!


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    Post by: zamerion




    All dwarves in he same book?


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    Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


    Checked the silhouette and it’s the existing Arkanaut Ironclad.

    Man they’re playing this one close to their chest!


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    Post by: Wha-Mu-077


    I guess that means DLC Rules for the Kharadron?


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    Post by: NAVARRO


    Squats!


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    Post by: chaos0xomega


    IIRC I think there were solid rumors a bit back that Kharadron and Fyreslayers would be getting merged into a Duardin Battletome so not surprising given the presumption that Fury in the Deep indicates Kharadron and Idoneth are the next two books.


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    Post by: Theophony


    Khardons are the Squats in 40K, same models, new 40K rules. They escaped being devoured by the Tyranids by escaping into a bubbleverse, now they have returned to reclaim their ancestral homes...and mine Urgold and Essence of the warp.

    Maybe we will get lucky and some rats on their ships escape and start their own Skaven Empire in 40K.


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    Post by: Arbitrator


    chaos0xomega wrote:
    IIRC I think there were solid rumors a bit back that Kharadron and Fyreslayers would be getting merged into a Duardin Battletome so not surprising given the presumption that Fury in the Deep indicates Kharadron and Idoneth are the next two books.

    It's been floating around for a while ever since Grungni set out to reunite them. I wouldn't trust the rumours as reliable beyond people making correct guesses since they've been wearing this plot thread on their sleeves for a while now and since FS are such an unpopular army the assumption would be getting merged like ogres and orcs.


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    Post by: Eldarsif


     Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
    Checked the silhouette and it’s the existing Arkanaut Ironclad.

    Man they’re playing this one close to their chest!


    There was one AoS rumor that all the Duardin factions would be combined into a single book like the Orruk one. Could very well be that they'll reveal that the Fyreslayer tome is actually "Forces of Duardin" or something and has Fyreslayers, Kharadron, and maybe, just maybe, the dispossessed.

    edit: Bleh I am just reiterating what others have said. My apologies.


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    Post by: GaroRobe


    The WarCom team confirmed the Avatar of Khaine will debut at the LVO.

    "It’s high time, however, for the old Avatar to hang up his lustrous topknot, and settle into the retirement segment of the infinity circuit. Who will take up his molten mantle and step into his fiery shoes? You’ll have to join the Warhammer Preview Online at the Las Vegas Open to find out..."


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    Post by: Dudeface


     GaroRobe wrote:
    The WarCom team confirmed the Avatar of Khaine will debut at the LVO.

    "It’s high time, however, for the old Avatar to hang up his lustrous topknot, and settle into the retirement segment of the infinity circuit. Who will take up his molten mantle and step into his fiery shoes? You’ll have to join the Warhammer Preview Online at the Las Vegas Open to find out..."


    I get eldar are well overdue a release and have a big release wave, but if every preview between now and the new book is just more eldar, it'll be a bit dull. Hoping they'll show off more of that chaos knight maybe.


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    Post by: GaroRobe


    My big fear is that they'll do a "one model per category" like in the past.

    Which would be a shame, since 1) we know an avatar is coming, 2) we've had a leaked image, and 3) they pretty much showed off what it will look like in the video today.


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    Post by: tauist


    Nazi undertones or not, I'm painting my DKoK in Finnish WW2 infantry colours (drab grey uniforms with dark wehrmacht helmets). You cannot stop me, and I'm not ever going to be playing with them in anything other than private games, so I dont really care if I cannot enter tourneys just because people don't know my country's military history.

    About this friday... is it time for BEAKIES!!??!1111



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    Post by: zamerion




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    Post by: Wha-Mu-077


    That's a bloody Nightgaunt if you ask me


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    Post by: lord_blackfang


     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    That's a bloody Nightgaunt if you ask me


    From the new years' teaser video.


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    Post by: Nevelon


    Avatar on one side, what about they guy with the hunting bird thing?


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    Post by: Kanluwen


    Elf of some kind from the looks of it?

    Might be Kurnothi, finally...


    Okay, strike what I said about the Kurnothi...that isn't the Avatar of Khaine on the right hand side of the teaser image!
    I have no idea what anything is outside of the Nighthaunt in the center. We did see a tease of a new Daughters of Khaine model in the New Year teaser video. Maybe we're going to see some kind of shakeup in the Cities of Sigmar again?


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    Post by: ImAGeek


    It definitely is the Avatar on the right…


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    Post by: GaroRobe


    New Nighthaunt in the middle. Same as the one from the new year teaser. The guy reading a book.

    On the left could be a stormcast. The new underworld team had a lightning card, so it could be for that.


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    Post by: silverstu


    Corsair for KT ? Nighthaunt -Avatar [with variant head!].

    The one on the left could be sylvaneth/kurnothi but they generally do 3 different systems so I'm guessing KT corsair.


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    Post by: GaroRobe


    Honestly, I'm starting to think it will only be a one model per gamesystem reveal. This is the second time they teased the Avatar for Eldar.

    Hopefully they'll do more than just show off one model from the kill team though. I can't imagine they'd hold it off since the release is supposed to be next month, though GW is known for dragging out a reveal


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    Post by: Kanluwen


     ImAGeek wrote:
    It definitely is the Avatar on the right…

    I thought so too initially, but I don't see any sign of the headfins? Note also that the 'crest' is closer to the head of whatever it is.


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
     silverstu wrote:
    Corsair for KT ? Nighthaunt -Avatar [with variant head!].

    The one on the left could be sylvaneth/kurnothi but they generally do 3 different systems so I'm guessing KT corsair.

    No mention of the Corsairs have had hawks involved. Nor does their wargear mentions.

    These little "teaser shots" that they do are not consistent with what is or isn't teased.


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    Post by: Scottywan82


     Kanluwen wrote:
     ImAGeek wrote:
    It definitely is the Avatar on the right…

    I thought so too initially, but I don't see any sign of the headfins? Note also that the 'crest' is closer to the head of whatever it is.


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
     silverstu wrote:
    Corsair for KT ? Nighthaunt -Avatar [with variant head!].

    The one on the left could be sylvaneth/kurnothi but they generally do 3 different systems so I'm guessing KT corsair.

    No mention of the Corsairs have had hawks involved. Nor does their wargear mentions.

    These little "teaser shots" that they do are not consistent with what is or isn't teased.


    It's the maskless head where he's holding the axe.


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    Yeah that's the Avatar on the right. The hand the same hand.

     GaroRobe wrote:
    My big fear is that they'll do a "one model per category" like in the past.
    The only consistent thing about GW is their inconsistency, so we are just as likely to receive a big preview for an entire faction (ala Bla) as we are a single model.

    Given that they've just stated we're getting an Avatar preview, I tend to agree with your fears: This will be a 15 minute for 1 mini for each system affair.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 10:39:29


    Post by: Dudeface


    Well now the Avatar reveal has been spoiled, reckon that is it for 40k?


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 10:44:39


    Post by: JWBS


     tauist wrote:


    About this friday... is it time for BEAKIES!!??!1111


    Consensus is probably not.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 12:12:02


    Post by: DreadfullyHopeful


    Dudeface wrote:
    Well now the Avatar reveal has been spoiled, reckon that is it for 40k?


    Well GW just formalized the Avatar reveal. I guess that means that they have a couple other things in the back for 40k


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 12:13:32


    Post by: beast_gts


     DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
    Dudeface wrote:
    Well now the Avatar reveal has been spoiled, reckon that is it for 40k?


    Well GW just formalized the Avatar reveal. I guess that means that they have a couple other things in the back for 40k



    BREAKING – Avatar of Khaine Rouses Earlier Than Expected, Causes a Scene- WarCom

    There are plenty of other Aeldari secrets still to reveal – not to mention a gargantuan slate of other announcements.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 12:44:01


    Post by: The Phazer


    I'm quite surprised they bothered responding to the leak given he was getting revealed in twenty four hours anyway, and there was an (admittedly very potato cam) image of him knocking around a week ago.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 12:48:48


    Post by: JimmyWolf87


     The Phazer wrote:
    I'm quite surprised they bothered responding to the leak given he was getting revealed in twenty four hours anyway, and there was an (admittedly very potato cam) image of him knocking around a week ago.


    I mean, you'll also get the inevitable idea that floated around that they leaked it themselves for some reason.

    It is actually a lovely model; one of the best attempts they've had at updating a classic concept without feeling the need to change things just coz.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 12:48:51


    Post by: Kanluwen


     The Phazer wrote:
    I'm quite surprised they bothered responding to the leak given he was getting revealed in twenty four hours anyway, and there was an (admittedly very potato cam) image of him knocking around a week ago.

    It was likely more to do with putting out the "other Aeldari secrets to reveal" part.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 13:19:43


    Post by: zedmeister


    A nice tease



    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 13:20:37


    Post by: lord_blackfang


    But we can't have an Epic preview at LVO, there wasn't an Epic game logo on the announcement


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 13:21:43


    Post by: zedmeister


     lord_blackfang wrote:
    But we can't have an Epic preview at LVO, there wasn't an Epic game logo on the announcement


    They'd hardly show the logo (if there is one). Besides, there's Horus Heresy which is a likely candidate


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 13:25:01


    Post by: GaroRobe


     Kanluwen wrote:
     The Phazer wrote:
    I'm quite surprised they bothered responding to the leak given he was getting revealed in twenty four hours anyway, and there was an (admittedly very potato cam) image of him knocking around a week ago.

    It was likely more to do with putting out the "other Aeldari secrets to reveal" part.


    I was excited when I read that too. But it could just as easily be a "Kill-team" reveal for corsairs. That would fit the aeldari secrets to reveal, while also not revealing anything besides the avatar for the 40k section.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 13:25:03


    Post by: jojo_monkey_boy


     zedmeister wrote:


    They'd hardly show the logo (if there is one). Besides, there's Horus Heresy which is a likely candidate


    Ahaha, I will laugh so much if the Horus Heresy logo amounts to them announcing epic content for the era and nothing about the actual 28mm game. The salt would be overflowing.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 13:26:52


    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    You heard it here first: Adeptus Titanicus Epic expansion!!! Confirmed by GW. Take that one to the bank!




    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 13:54:32


    Post by: tauist


    Man, if they indeed are bringing Epic back, that'd be the end of 28mm 40K for me! Always preferred skirmish and 6mm scales over the quasi-platoon feel of 40K. I would be totally content with only playing KT21 and Epic..

    But I can't honestly see Epic making a comeback..




    Automatically Appended Next Post:
    Hmm.. about this "epic" thing. I found this video: (Skip to 04:50)




    Thoughts?



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    Post by: ImAGeek


     zedmeister wrote:
     lord_blackfang wrote:
    But we can't have an Epic preview at LVO, there wasn't an Epic game logo on the announcement


    They'd hardly show the logo (if there is one). Besides, there's Horus Heresy which is a likely candidate


    They’d probably have done a ‘mystery reveal’ thing like they’ve done before if Epic is coming tomorrow.


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    Post by: Theophony


    They also mentioned Gargantuan in one of their statements. So maybe Adeptus Titanicus: Ork Gargants are coming


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 16:14:38


    Post by: tauist


     ImAGeek wrote:
     zedmeister wrote:
     lord_blackfang wrote:
    But we can't have an Epic preview at LVO, there wasn't an Epic game logo on the announcement


    They'd hardly show the logo (if there is one). Besides, there's Horus Heresy which is a likely candidate


    They’d probably have done a ‘mystery reveal’ thing like they’ve done before if Epic is coming tomorrow.


    If I'd take this youtuber's rumour seriously. and GW has been playtesting Epic on December 2021, then we would be getting a "One more thing.." type of teaser at the most. There'd be no way the game is finished yet. But I admit wishlisting here...



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    Post by: Dysartes


     Theophony wrote:
    They also mentioned Gargantuan in one of their statements. So maybe Adeptus Titanicus: Ork Gargants are coming

    Or Gargantuan Squiggoths...


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 17:13:46


    Post by: Wha-Mu-077


     Dysartes wrote:
     Theophony wrote:
    They also mentioned Gargantuan in one of their statements. So maybe Adeptus Titanicus: Ork Gargants are coming

    Or Gargantuan Squiggoths...


    Isn't Titanicus taking place in the Horus Heresy.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 17:16:52


    Post by: beast_gts


     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
     Dysartes wrote:
     Theophony wrote:
    They also mentioned Gargantuan in one of their statements. So maybe Adeptus Titanicus: Ork Gargants are coming

    Or Gargantuan Squiggoths...


    Isn't Titanicus taking place in the Horus Heresy.


    Currently it is, but they said they'd do something like a War of the Beast expansion to introduce Orks.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 17:18:40


    Post by: ImAGeek


    I don’t think Orks are coming for AT (there’s no Titanicus logo for a start) but Orks were also around in the Great Crusade so including them wouldn’t even really be out of the setting.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 17:24:16


    Post by: tneva82


     tauist wrote:
     ImAGeek wrote:
     zedmeister wrote:
     lord_blackfang wrote:
    But we can't have an Epic preview at LVO, there wasn't an Epic game logo on the announcement


    They'd hardly show the logo (if there is one). Besides, there's Horus Heresy which is a likely candidate


    They’d probably have done a ‘mystery reveal’ thing like they’ve done before if Epic is coming tomorrow.


    If I'd take this youtuber's rumour seriously. and GW has been playtesting Epic on December 2021, then we would be getting a "One more thing.." type of teaser at the most. There'd be no way the game is finished yet. But I admit wishlisting here...



    If they were playtesting december it would be dubious would it come in 2022.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 17:48:53


    Post by: tauist


    tneva82 wrote:
     tauist wrote:
     ImAGeek wrote:
     zedmeister wrote:
     lord_blackfang wrote:
    But we can't have an Epic preview at LVO, there wasn't an Epic game logo on the announcement


    They'd hardly show the logo (if there is one). Besides, there's Horus Heresy which is a likely candidate


    They’d probably have done a ‘mystery reveal’ thing like they’ve done before if Epic is coming tomorrow.


    If I'd take this youtuber's rumour seriously. and GW has been playtesting Epic on December 2021, then we would be getting a "One more thing.." type of teaser at the most. There'd be no way the game is finished yet. But I admit wishlisting here...



    If they were playtesting december it would be dubious would it come in 2022.


    Well if nothing else, this reinvigorated my interest in tomorrow's reveals! I know I will see at least the new KT box... but theres at least some hope for a real surprise.



    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 17:48:53


    Post by: Necronmaniac05


    I can live in hope that they will announce they made a terrible, terrible mistake and the Necron codexes that went to retail were actually not the final version and they are going to release a new version with completely revamped weapon profiles...


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 18:17:23


    Post by: Voss


    Necronmaniac05 wrote:
    I can live in hope that they will announce they made a terrible, terrible mistake and the Necron codexes that went to retail were actually not the final version and they are going to release a new version with completely revamped weapon profiles...


    Given the core changes, the point changes and so on, I think that's a dead hope. They fixed it!


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/27 18:56:18


    Post by: chaos0xomega


     zedmeister wrote:
     lord_blackfang wrote:
    But we can't have an Epic preview at LVO, there wasn't an Epic game logo on the announcement


    They'd hardly show the logo (if there is one). Besides, there's Horus Heresy which is a likely candidate


    In the past if they were previewing an unannounced game or product line, they would put a blank logo placeholder, usually with ">>>" or "Censored" or "Redacted" etc. over it.

    You will also note that "Warhammer 40,000" and "Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team" and "Necromunda" are all separate items on the preview listing, despite all of them otherwise falling under "Warhammer 40,000" (well, Necromunda is arguable, but Kill Team is not). Because "Age of Sigmar" is the only fantasy tag on there, we will not be getting anything to do with Warhammer Quest/Cursed City, nor Warcry, nor Warhammer Underworlds. If Epic is being previewed, its not under "The Horus Heresy", it would be previewed under its own product tag.

    This doesn't necessarily preclude the "one last thing" 15 second video clip at the end of the show that says "SOMETHING EPIC IS COMING" or whatever, but if they are doing that they probably aren't actually going to tell us the games full name, nor will they show us minis, only tease us with the potential existence of the product, which will spark furious debates on dakka as to whether or not they are teasing the return of Epic or not, and whether or not its set in 40k or 30k, and whether its 6mm or 8mm or 10mm or actually really a 2nd edition of Apocalypse but named "Epic" instead and using 28mm minis, or if its actually teasing some really random obscure character whos nickname in one Black Library novel published 18 years ago was said to be "The Epic Scrotum-muncher" or something.

    And if the rumor is that Epic started playtesting in December 2021, the game isn't being released this year. If anything, with the knowledge that theres a 28mm Horus Heresy reboot supposed to be happening Soon (TM) for which product has been completed and apparently sitting in warehouses, its likely that that is the next major specialist game coming out the gate and the only one which is being released this year - GW is *NOT* going to drop two new specialist games in the same year.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 01:57:38


    Post by: drbored


    Yeah, they usually tell you what games to expect. Probably to keep people from being like

    "No Blood Bowl?" or "No Titanicus?" or "No (insert your fave game here)" sort of un-hype.

    That said, there's nothing to say they wouldn't put in a teaser at the very end of the reveals that hints at a teaser for another reveal that might then tease a bit more about something else.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 02:10:36


    Post by: Arbitrator


    People have been coming up with rumours about Epic since Titanicus was announced, a lot of claims about how "it and AImperialis are totally test beds before progressing into a full Epic system." If you repeat something enough it gets a life of it's own.



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    Post by: drbored


     Arbitrator wrote:
    People have been coming up with rumours about Epic since Titanicus was announced, a lot of claims about how "it and AImperialis are totally test beds before progressing into a full Epic system." If you repeat something enough it gets a life of it's own.



    I get it. I mean, GW releases models that are in the correct scale for an Epic game and fans start injecting Hopeium right into their veins.

    From what I understand, Epic is something that cannibalizes from regular 40k. Yeah they're different systems and scales and such, but why sell two wargames where the only visual difference is the size? Customers get confused.

    On top of that, a challenge that GW would have is competing with 3d printers that have already given Epic a new life and new detail. At such a tiny size, 3d printing ends up being a whole heck of a lot more viable for a lot more people. Why start producing a new game when half of your new product line would be so easily replicated?

    It just doesn't make sense. Aeronautica was a bid at trying to catch the people falling off from X-Wing 2nd edition and Titanicus is a game geared more towards fans that are bored of Battletech. That's really all there is to it.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 03:10:01


    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    Has anyone mentioned LVO exclusive minis yet?

    I just saw a pic on the loot group for a Mugruk Da Watcher, a Kruelboyz mini.

    I'm on my phone so can't repost it yet, but I can't remember seeing him before?


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 03:22:08


    Post by: Tim the Biovore


     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    Has anyone mentioned LVO exclusive minis yet?

    I just saw a pic on the loot group for a Mugruk Da Watcher, a Kruelboyz mini.

    I'm on my phone so can't repost it yet, but I can't remember seeing him before?




    Definitely not seen him before


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 03:44:53


    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    Can you imagine if that was one of the 'big reveals' today?


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    Post by: Voss


     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    Can you imagine if that was one of the 'big reveals' today?

    Easily. So, so easily.


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    Post by: Kanluwen


     Tim the Biovore wrote:



    Definitely not seen him before

    He was, from what was said, made available to people at the GW stand. The person who posted that photo was told that today was the first event it would be on sale.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 04:06:38


    Post by: Chikout


    They also said the 40k one would be available tomorrow.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 04:59:50


    Post by: drbored


    Aw yeah, who's ready for another space marine primaris lt.?


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    Post by: tauist


    Watching the stream. Wade Pryce is so much better host than Adam Troke. It's astonishing actually. I find this stream much more palatable than usual


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 06:18:41


    Post by: Togusa


    God that Avatar is a thing of beauty. I wonder how easy it will be to magnetize the heads?

    Maugan Ra is amazing, I love that shuriken cannon. Just amazing.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 06:19:06


    Post by: streetsamurai


    the shining spears are putrid. The eldar release turned out to be such a dissapointment


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 06:21:27


    Post by: JWBS


    I don't like that Maugan Ra hood one bit. Spears look alright to me.


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    Post by: bullyboy


    nah, the spears issue is the paint job, just far too much white!


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    Post by: Racerguy180


    Wrong colour background


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    Post by: JWBS


    Maugan Ra used to look so damn heavy. New version looks like some sort of Harlequin or something out of a Manga. : (


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 06:29:12


    Post by: tauist


    Maugan Ra is like the epitome of tryhard GrimDerp. Its lookin as edgy as a Hanna Barbera version of Batman.


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    Post by: streetsamurai


    these new ghosts are pretty cool


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    Post by: Togusa


    Ohhh! Cool AoS stuff. I don't play either army, but cool!


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    Post by: JWBS


    AoS Nightgaunt vs DoK looks very weak. Meh.


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    Post by: MajorWesJanson


    ia that 2 boxes in a row for daughters of khaine?


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    Post by: cuda1179


    Did they hint that the Avatar would have different statlines line a Bloodthirster?


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    Post by: Flipsiders


    Wow. Maugan Ra looks... Different.

    The spears are pretty awesome though, even if the paintjob could use some work.


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
    Appending images since no one else has yet:

    Spoiler:


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    Post by: tneva82


    Nighthaunt vs DOK box was unexpected. Nighthaunt model was expected but with DOK? Wonder if these books are next. Would mean previous rumour list was wrong. Hopefully it means books coming faster than rumour said


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
     cuda1179 wrote:
    Did they hint that the Avatar would have different statlines line a Bloodthirster?


    We have seen the datasheet for avatar so not much they have to hint.


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    Post by: Togusa


    tneva82 wrote:
    Nighthaunt vs DOK box was unexpected. Nighthaunt model was expected but with DOK? Wonder if these books are next. Would mean previous rumour list was wrong. Hopefully it means books coming faster than rumour said


    the end of the video said this was up for preorder now. So I imagine this is coming fast. Very surprised.


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    Post by: tauist


    Craventhorne Guard would make for awesome Blanchitsu conversions

    High Gladiatrix would make an awesome Drukhari, especially with the helmet <3



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    Post by: tneva82


     Togusa wrote:
    tneva82 wrote:
    Nighthaunt vs DOK box was unexpected. Nighthaunt model was expected but with DOK? Wonder if these books are next. Would mean previous rumour list was wrong. Hopefully it means books coming faster than rumour said


    the end of the video said this was up for preorder now. So I imagine this is coming fast. Very surprised.


    Yeah.

    Of course no word on battletomes so there's no quarantee those comes fast. But hopefully those are following soon as well. DOK would be odd one to get new book so soon but GW works in GW's way and maybe they could do with bit of toning down(and morathi could do with rethinking to be less annoying to deal with)


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    Post by: MajorWesJanson


    That gladiatrix is 90% of the way to being a DE succubus. May grab one to do that when it comes out as a single.


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    Post by: Togusa


    tneva82 wrote:
     Togusa wrote:
    tneva82 wrote:
    Nighthaunt vs DOK box was unexpected. Nighthaunt model was expected but with DOK? Wonder if these books are next. Would mean previous rumour list was wrong. Hopefully it means books coming faster than rumour said


    the end of the video said this was up for preorder now. So I imagine this is coming fast. Very surprised.


    Yeah.

    Of course no word on battletomes so there's no quarantee those comes fast. But hopefully those are following soon as well. DOK would be odd one to get new book so soon but GW works in GW's way and maybe they could do with bit of toning down(and morathi could do with rethinking to be less annoying to deal with)


    I'm just surprised. Like if that's going up for preorder now, or this weekend it's way out of the blue and left field for me.


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
    Ka'Bandha WOAH!


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    Post by: JWBS


    Wow, Thirster looks nice.


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    Post by: tauist


    That HH demon tho!


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    Post by: MajorWesJanson


    Ka'Bandha? Not Angron? Didnt expect that for Horus Heresy...

    Ah, resin it seems. Kinda competing with the FW greater Bloodthirster model a bit though in size and probably price.


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    Post by: JWBS


    That's massive. Look at the size of that corpse underfoot.


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    Post by: streetsamurai


    that show is very intriguing. Might have to subscribte to wh+ after all


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    Post by: tauist


    There's even a dread corpse on the base..

    And I like the look of this Interrogator. Finally something that doesn't look childish


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    Post by: cuda1179


     tauist wrote:
    There's even a dread corpse on the base..

    And I like the look of this Interrogator. Finally something that doesn't look childish


    When I saw that animation the first thing I thought was " Take on me, Take me on".


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    Post by: Togusa


    I'll be damn, Corsairs. I am legitimately surprised, but just one model?


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    Post by: EviscerationPlague


    I can understand not liking the new Maugen since he looks more....slim than before. However I like him a lot.


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    Post by: streetsamurai


    corsair is very cool, but the bird would have gained a lot if it was more alien looking. Kudos for the video, it was a great one


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    Post by: tauist


    Yesss!

    This KT box will be mine


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    Post by: ImAGeek


    He’s sick, but looks like they’re just showing the one.


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    Post by: CMLR


    WHAT?!?!?!?!

    EXODITES NEXT!!!!


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    Post by: JWBS


    I find the Corsair uninspiring tbh.


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    Post by: Togusa


    Corsair faction confirmed in 40K.


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    Post by: MajorWesJanson


    If I can run Corsairs alongside Dark Eldar, I'm sold. Hope the other gang is good, and curious about the terrain.


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    Post by: Togusa


    EviscerationPlague wrote:
    I can understand not liking the new Maugen since he looks more....slim than before. However I like him a lot.


    I like him a lot, but then again I adored the new Dark Reapers and a lot of people don't seem to like them much.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 07:01:25


    Post by: Thargrim


    This hour long preview was awful, only showed one corsair and no actual necromunda models shown. Felt like bait watching this crap all the way through. And the eldar stuff we already kinda saw and knew what was coming, it's not like they tried to hide maugan ra so no suprise there.

    Every time I watch one of these I say never again, and I somehow get suckered back into it every year. Well this time might be it.


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    Post by: ImAGeek


    Ffs, one Corsair and no Ash Wastes models?


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    Post by: tauist


    The new Ash Wastes expansion sounds very Max Mad'y


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    Post by: beast_gts


     tauist wrote:
    The new Ash Wastes expansion sounds very Max Mad'y
    Or Borderlands


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    Post by: streetsamurai


    it's unfortunate, but these preview shows are almost always dissapointing. Could have at least showed us a model or two for the ash waste expansion


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    Post by: Marshal Loss


    Comically weak preview even by their standards


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    Post by: ImAGeek


    I’m usually fine with their previews but this was really disappointing.


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    Post by: Togusa


    Aeldari and AoS stole the show for me! Very cool stuff. I was hoping to see something for AT, but I can wait for the next. *Imperator please*


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    Post by: JWBS


    Bad preview, not shocked.


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    Post by: Malika2


    So erm...where are all the pics? I would have thought someone was taking screenshots or something!


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    Post by: dream archipelago


    Some nice Mad Max vibes from the Necromunda not-so-much-a-reveal thing.


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    Post by: MajorWesJanson


    dream archipelago wrote:
    Some nice Mad Max vibes from the Necromunda not-so-much-a-reveal thing.


    I liked the trucks built out of munitorum crates.


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    Post by: tneva82


    Aaand it began. Absolutely the BEST part of previews. The post-preview whining. Keep it up guys! You are hilarious Best comedy in the world.


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    Post by: CMLR


    The new DoK leader with mask and glaive looks really cool, as well as her body proportions, but that whip is just going to snap when I look at it.


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    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    In. Slow. Motion.



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    Post by: ImAGeek


     Togusa wrote:
    Corsair faction confirmed in 40K.


    I wasn’t paying the best attention but did they actually say Corsair faction? I just heard playable only 40k, and we know they’re in the Eldar codex.


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    Post by: tauist


    This preview matched my expectations in hindsight. Which kida blows since I would like the HH box to release ASAP.. But noes. Drip feed as always

    At least the corsairs in the new KT box will give me some Rogue Trader Eldar Pirate fix. I intend to paint them in one of the classic colour schemes with those triangley patterns.





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    Post by: Togusa


     ImAGeek wrote:
     Togusa wrote:
    Corsair faction confirmed in 40K.


    I wasn’t paying the best attention but did they actually say Corsair faction? I just heard playable only 40k, and we know they’re in the Eldar codex.


    They said they'll be fully playable in 40K. I am extrapolating.


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    Post by: MajorWesJanson


     ImAGeek wrote:
     Togusa wrote:
    Corsair faction confirmed in 40K.


    I wasn’t paying the best attention but did they actually say Corsair faction? I just heard playable only 40k, and we know they’re in the Eldar codex.


    Playable with Eldar and Dark Eldar. I guess like the old Harlequin rules before they expanded.


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    Post by: CMLR


     Togusa wrote:
     ImAGeek wrote:
     Togusa wrote:
    Corsair faction confirmed in 40K.


    I wasn’t paying the best attention but did they actually say Corsair faction? I just heard playable only 40k, and we know they’re in the Eldar codex.


    They said they'll be fully playable in 40K. I am extrapolating.


    They were already playable a pair of editions ago, no reason for them to not be now.


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    Post by: Malika2


    Taken from B&C:


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    Post by: tneva82


     tauist wrote:
    This preview matched my expectations in hindsight. Which kida blows since I would like the HH box to release ASAP.. But noes. Drip feed as always

    At least the corsairs in the new KT box will give me some Rogue Trader Eldar Pirate fix. I intend to paint them in one of the classic colour schemes with those triangley patterns.





    Has there ever been new edition launched february-april? As that's the timeline previews now would be released to stores(barring unexpected delays).

    They absolutely would NOT show anything released in summer today. Those you can expect to see april-may.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 07:16:17


    Post by: Togusa


     CMLR wrote:
     Togusa wrote:
     ImAGeek wrote:
     Togusa wrote:
    Corsair faction confirmed in 40K.


    I wasn’t paying the best attention but did they actually say Corsair faction? I just heard playable only 40k, and we know they’re in the Eldar codex.


    They said they'll be fully playable in 40K. I am extrapolating.


    They were already playable a pair of editions ago, no reason for them to not be now.


    Have they ever had models before? Like the Exodites, I've heard of them but I never saw anyone play them.


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    Post by: Malika2


    Taken from B&C again:




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    Post by: ImAGeek


     Togusa wrote:
     CMLR wrote:
     Togusa wrote:
     ImAGeek wrote:
     Togusa wrote:
    Corsair faction confirmed in 40K.


    I wasn’t paying the best attention but did they actually say Corsair faction? I just heard playable only 40k, and we know they’re in the Eldar codex.


    They said they'll be fully playable in 40K. I am extrapolating.


    They were already playable a pair of editions ago, no reason for them to not be now.


    Have they ever had models before? Like the Exodites, I've heard of them but I never saw anyone play them.


    They had some Forge World models, and their army list was in an Imperial Armour book.


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    Post by: CMLR


     Malika2 wrote:
    Taken from B&C again:




    I'd really like to use him as a generic Thirster. Hope his base is workable.


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    Post by: BrookM


    Right so what other faction is boxed with the Corsairs in the new KT box? WarCom still hasn't updated the site with all the unveils and the rerun hasn't started yet either.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 07:25:23


    Post by: Togusa


     BrookM wrote:
    Right so what other faction is boxed with the Corsairs in the new KT box? WarCom still hasn't updated the site with all the unveils and the rerun hasn't started yet either.


    They only showed one, the other is still a mystery.


    GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 07:26:12


    Post by: Wha-Mu-077


    Genuinely suprised this doesn't seem to be a part of the new Nightgaunt reveals, perhaps there's more down the line for them?

    [Thumb - 2021-10-12.jpg]


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    Post by: tneva82


    Well "mystery". Seeing one part of the rumour panned out not much reason to doubt the second part.


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    Post by: Togusa


    tneva82 wrote:
    Well "mystery". Seeing one part of the rumour panned out not much reason to doubt the second part.


    What was the second?


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    Post by: streetsamurai


    chaos iirc


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    Post by: Dudeface


    So 90 minutes for 3 eldar units we knew were coming and seen either wholly or in part before, a sigmar battle box and a blood thirster nobody sane can afford.

    They somehow keep moving that bar lower and lower.

    Oh and a single corsair model, because heaven forbid they show the unit or box contents.


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    Post by: ImAGeek


     Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
    Genuinely suprised this doesn't seem to be a part of the new Nightgaunt reveals, perhaps there's more down the line for them?


    Good spot, there’s also the boat/ship prow looking one that fits the Nighthaunt design. I could see them getting a ghost ship or something.


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    Post by: Ferrum_Sanguinis


    So will this new Ka'banha model replace the old FW/An'ggrath model?


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    Post by: bobbybottle


    Super excited


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    Post by: Shadow Walker


     Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
    So will this new Ka'banha model replace the old FW/An'ggrath model?

    They are 2 different named Greater Demons.


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    Post by: lord_blackfang


    So the grand total of reveals we for real haven't seen before:

    Shining Spears
    Nighthaunt Crossbowmen
    One Eldar Pirate
    Resin Bloodthirster
    Necromunda expansion logo


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    Post by: Shadow Walker


     lord_blackfang wrote:
    So the grand total of reveals we for real haven't seen before:

    Shining Spears
    Wych hero
    Nighthaunt Crossbowmen
    One Eldar Pirate
    Resin Bloodthirster
    Necromunda expansion logo

    Add Nighthaunt hero


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    Post by: RazorEdge


    Seems like those previews get worst and worst...

    What makes the preview bad; they showed the best part first.


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    Post by: stahly


    Did nobody post the Aeldari Corsair here yet?





    What a quantum leap compared to the Forge World models! Totally unique aesthetics! Critters! Mohawks! Even has a few visual nods to the Visarch.

    Exciting.


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    Post by: Knight


    The wych and nighthaunt hero were in the new year's teaser.


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    Post by: John D Law


    Ahhh I long for the days of Doombreed! Now that would be a Greater daemon


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    Post by: Shadow Walker


     Knight wrote:
    The wych and nighthaunt hero were in the new year's teaser.
    Yeah, you are correct, now I remember that whip etc. were there.


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    Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


    Glad I didn’t get up early.

    Happy with what we’ve been shown, but would’ve preferred to see Actual Models for Necromunda Ash Wastes.