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Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:44:33


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


How do!

Sadly being a Luddite I can’t show the vid here.

But on GW’s social media channels, we’ve been teased with a short, soundless 40K animation, promising “Something Big Is Coming….But What?”

Vid shows some kind of commas screen, reading “incoming vessel, origin unknown, docking access denied, *error* docking access granted”.

Anyone care to speculate? Or indeed share the vid because I don’t know how to from social media.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:46:02


Post by: Kinetochore


something about a ship docking - Space Hulk maybe?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:46:15


Post by: Necronmaniac05


It is April fools Day tomorrow so we should bear that in mind...


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:47:10


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Necronmaniac05 wrote:
It is April fools Day tomorrow so we should bear that in mind...


Fair point.

Also beware Kid_Kyoto’s posts on that same day. He’s a tricksy one.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:50:02


Post by: Overread


So a few things it could be having seen it earlier and thought about it

1) Could be a new Warhammer+ video series or episode. Themed around Space Hulk

2) Could be a re-release or a new release of Space Hulk. Fits with all the general themes of unknown spooky ships floating around.



Space Hulk certainly fits the whole "BIG" angle as those are vast ships floating in space. Interestingly I spoke recently about the idea of seeing the next adventure release for 40K being a theme of Space Hulk. However I wouldn't think that with Cursed City only just out (evne if it hadn't vanished for half a year) its a bit soon for GW to return to 40K. That is unless they are doing away with only running one at a time and are going to run two concurrently - one for each major game system. Which they could totally do and wouldn't be a bad idea. Blackstone Fortress clearly still sells well even whilst Cursed City is on the cards so GW could easily run two new such games at the same time.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:51:15


Post by: Chikout


Yeah. I'm voting for an April fools video.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:51:44


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


The impression I get is that it’s something forcibly docking with an Imperium ship, rather than an Imperium Ship forcibly docking with another ship, such as a Space Hulk?

Could it be a brand new Xenos, given origin is unknown?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:51:51


Post by: Kinetochore


Either that or its a Spaceship full of Squats and the "big" is a bit of a joke (i.e. in the inverse of Little John etc)



Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:53:00


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


FB link is here: https://fb.watch/c5nm89Gnqe/
Also I just want this to be Space Crusade, heh.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 12:54:28


Post by: kirotheavenger


Could also be something completely out of left field.

Could be a 'space hulk' Killteam set, similar in board to the old Rogue Trader Killteam set.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:06:29


Post by: ClockworkZion


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
How do!

Sadly being a Luddite I can’t show the vid here.

But on GW’s social media channels, we’ve been teased with a short, soundless 40K animation, promising “Something Big Is Coming….But What?”

Vid shows some kind of commas screen, reading “incoming vessel, origin unknown, docking access denied, *error* docking access granted”.

Anyone care to speculate? Or indeed share the vid because I don’t know how to from social media.

Here ya go:


Just had to rip the video from their Facebook page, convert it to GIF and then rehost to another site.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:13:35


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


All hail the ClockworkOmnizion!

Anyone able to do a frame by frame looking for tidbits?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:14:42


Post by: TwilightSparkles


Whatever it is seems weird if it’s something actually big just a week after adepticon.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:17:41


Post by: Theophony


Battlefleet Gothic


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:25:08


Post by: DreadfullyHopeful


 Theophony wrote:
Battlefleet Gothic


Who knows ? The PC games did pretty good.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:27:21


Post by: The Phazer


 Kinetochore wrote:
Either that or its a Spaceship full of Squats and the "big" is a bit of a joke (i.e. in the inverse of Little John etc)



The rumoured Squats were my first thought, on the basis they might be able to dock with Imperial vessels but haven't in so long it took a bit of time for the codes to work etc, hence the denied and then granted bit.

Probably won't be anything that exciting. Watch it be for paint dropper bottles.

In all seriousness though, I can't see it being a new Battlefleet Gothic or Space Hulk rerelease, just because it feels like GW have quite a lot of boxed games coming in the next few months as it is?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:27:27


Post by: Geifer


It's the space bus ferrying in the first new Squats. I wouldn't let those guys on board either.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:28:00


Post by: ClockworkZion


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
All hail the ClockworkOmnizion!

Anyone able to do a frame by frame looking for tidbits?

I scrubbed through the frames, and no, there is no hidden info or details. There is a slight pan and zoom towards the console along with a slight blur effect on the console when it switches from "denied" to "granted" but that's it.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:28:07


Post by: Kanluwen


 Kinetochore wrote:
Either that or its a Spaceship full of Squats and the "big" is a bit of a joke (i.e. in the inverse of Little John etc)


Y'know, you might not be far off the mark.

One of the Psychic Awakening books had a Squat vessel being ID'd by an Explorator group.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:31:30


Post by: silverstu


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Kinetochore wrote:
Either that or its a Spaceship full of Squats and the "big" is a bit of a joke (i.e. in the inverse of Little John etc)


Y'know, you might not be far off the mark.

One of the Psychic Awakening books had a Squat vessel being ID'd by an Explorator group.


Yep that's what I'm thinking, plus BoB from War of Sigmar suggested when that snippet came out a game on a squat ship might be coming.
Perfect thing to release on April fools- Squats return has always been seen as a bit of a joke..


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:32:02


Post by: ClockworkZion


 silverstu wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Kinetochore wrote:
Either that or its a Spaceship full of Squats and the "big" is a bit of a joke (i.e. in the inverse of Little John etc)


Y'know, you might not be far off the mark.

One of the Psychic Awakening books had a Squat vessel being ID'd by an Explorator group.


Yep that's what I'm thinking, plus BoB from War of Sigmar suggested when that snippet came out a game on a squat ship might be coming.
Perfect thing to release on April fools- Squats return has always been seen as a bit of a joke..

It'd be one hell of a prank to announce a legit release on April 1st.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:32:02


Post by: H.B.M.C.


IGN did just post this. Related?




Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 13:57:45


Post by: Kinetochore


Hope its Darktide coming out on PS5 - I'd be all over that like a rash


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 14:19:14


Post by: judgedoug


Looks like it is a corpse that is floating just out of frame on the left side.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 14:22:59


Post by: ClockworkZion


 judgedoug wrote:
Looks like it is a corpse that is floating just out of frame on the left side.

Yeah, there's a hand but you can't see anything to really go off of to describe anything about it.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 14:30:01


Post by: Kanluwen


 Kinetochore wrote:
Hope its Darktide coming out on PS5 - I'd be all over that like a rash

Darktide was already coming out on PS5?

It was nextgen+PC only.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 14:33:10


Post by: Chikout


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Kinetochore wrote:
Hope its Darktide coming out on PS5 - I'd be all over that like a rash

Darktide was already coming out on PS5?

It was nextgen+PC only.


No it's only pc and Xbox for now. It'll be on gamepads though, which is nice.

Edit- the big thing might be a community survey. Apparently some people have got an email.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 16:08:29


Post by: Kanluwen


I doubt it has anything to do with the community survey. Only people I've seen mention getting it are those who attended events.

I could have swore that Darktide would be on Playstation. oh well.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 16:18:55


Post by: Tannhauser42


 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Battlefleet Gothic


Who knows ? The PC games did pretty good.


I would absolutely love the return of BFG. The Siege of Terra would be an easy way to relaunch it, since they would only need to start with a small number of ship models as both sides would be using the same ships.
I still have my Imperial and Necron fleets, as well as everything I could buy during the Great Specialist Games Closeout.
Sadly, I do not expect BFG to come back soon.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 16:22:29


Post by: Theophony


 Tannhauser42 wrote:
 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Battlefleet Gothic


Who knows ? The PC games did pretty good.


I would absolutely love the return of BFG. The Siege of Terra would be an easy way to relaunch it, since they would only need to start with a small number of ship models as both sides would be using the same ships.
I still have my Imperial and Necron fleets, as well as everything I could buy during the Great Specialist Games Closeout.
Sadly, I do not expect BFG to come back soon.


Sadly it will be a new scale game like Space Hulk, only in 12mm scale so your table can be the full size of the ship. 12mm so it's Bigger than Epic/AT and can still get great detail, but small enough that your squad can fit onto a couple of bases.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 16:31:09


Post by: RazorEdge


 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
Also I just want this to be Space Crusade, heh.


Could work

recycle Black Reach Space Marines and Orcs, Snap-Fit CSM we had in the past...


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 16:44:13


Post by: Mentlegen324


I honestly think this might be Squats. With the rumours about them coming, the mention of "Something Big" (A pun if it is squats), and how a Mechanicus ship in Psychic Awakening encountered a Squat vessel (and being in complete disbelief about it), I can see them announcing Squats as an April Fools joke...and then having them turn out to be real.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 16:52:23


Post by: Togusa


Squats!!!



Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I honestly think this might be Squats. With the rumours about them coming, the mention of "Something Big", and how a Mechanicus ship in Psychic Awakening encountered a Squat vessel (and being in complete disbelief about it), I can see them announcing Squats as an April Fools joke...and then having them turn out to be real.


they would get me with that and I'd love them for it too.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 17:10:25


Post by: tneva82


Gw's april fool's doesn't seem to be connected to this


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 17:17:27


Post by: lord_blackfang


Squats'd be nice, especially with Ash Wastes coming at the same time for more land train action. But let's not work ourselves into a frenzy over a zero-information teaser.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 17:50:00


Post by: Tannhauser42


 Theophony wrote:
 Tannhauser42 wrote:
 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Battlefleet Gothic


Who knows ? The PC games did pretty good.


I would absolutely love the return of BFG. The Siege of Terra would be an easy way to relaunch it, since they would only need to start with a small number of ship models as both sides would be using the same ships.
I still have my Imperial and Necron fleets, as well as everything I could buy during the Great Specialist Games Closeout.
Sadly, I do not expect BFG to come back soon.


Sadly it will be a new scale game like Space Hulk, only in 12mm scale so your table can be the full size of the ship. 12mm so it's Bigger than Epic/AT and can still get great detail, but small enough that your squad can fit onto a couple of bases.


The nice thing about BFG was that ship scale didn't matter for gameplay. Everything was measured in regards to the bases and center of the bases due to the vastness of space. Of course, if a new version changed that fundamental aspect... :(


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:18:08


Post by: judgedoug


 ClockworkZion wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:
Looks like it is a corpse that is floating just out of frame on the left side.

Yeah, there's a hand but you can't see anything to really go off of to describe anything about it.


Since it's a lifeless floating corpse hand and the computer terminals look like they're fritzing, I'll hazard to guess it has something to do with being boarded after a void battle.

I'd LOVE a Kill Team Boarding Action campaign box with Naval Voidsmen versus some baddies. Esp since I don't think anything has yet to be announced post-Nachmund


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:25:30


Post by: CragHack


How is the hand floating? To me it looks like it's just there. I would guess it's BFG. We've seen titan being shot by a lance in Heresy trailer. So assuming titans are for A:T, lance could've mean incoming BFG as well...


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:30:10


Post by: judgedoug


 CragHack wrote:
How is the hand floating? To me it looks like it's just there. I would guess it's BFG. We've seen titan being shot by a lance in Heresy trailer. So assuming titans are for A:T, lance could've mean incoming BFG as well...


Well it's not moving and in a rictus pose, so...

I highly doubt they'd (a) rerelease BFG at all (I rate it's chances somewhere around Mordheim), and if they did, (b) not in such an underwhelming way


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:36:21


Post by: Mentlegen324


 Tannhauser42 wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
 Tannhauser42 wrote:
 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Battlefleet Gothic


Who knows ? The PC games did pretty good.


I would absolutely love the return of BFG. The Siege of Terra would be an easy way to relaunch it, since they would only need to start with a small number of ship models as both sides would be using the same ships.
I still have my Imperial and Necron fleets, as well as everything I could buy during the Great Specialist Games Closeout.
Sadly, I do not expect BFG to come back soon.


Sadly it will be a new scale game like Space Hulk, only in 12mm scale so your table can be the full size of the ship. 12mm so it's Bigger than Epic/AT and can still get great detail, but small enough that your squad can fit onto a couple of bases.


The nice thing about BFG was that ship scale didn't matter for gameplay. Everything was measured in regards to the bases and center of the bases due to the vastness of space. Of course, if a new version changed that fundamental aspect... :(


Wasn't this also meant to be the case with the designs of the ships themselves? I'm sure I remember reading something saying that the way weapons were depicted on the miniatures weren't how they actually were and that there were meant to be huge amounts of weapons on either side rather than the few shown. It seems that those few shown have become how they are canonically however.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:44:16


Post by: Ghaz


 judgedoug wrote:
I'd LOVE a Kill Team Boarding Action campaign box with Naval Voidsmen versus some baddies. Esp since I don't think anything has yet to be announced post-Nachmund

So an update of Kill Team: Rogue Trader?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:49:46


Post by: judgedoug


 Ghaz wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:
I'd LOVE a Kill Team Boarding Action campaign box with Naval Voidsmen versus some baddies. Esp since I don't think anything has yet to be announced post-Nachmund

So an update of Kill Team: Rogue Trader?


Perhaps, but gosh I hope not with the board game components. I doubt a re-use of those sprues otherwise the teaser would have some at least minor nurgle-y hint, which it doesn't


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:50:04


Post by: Toofast


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I honestly think this might be Squats. With the rumours about them coming, the mention of "Something Big" (A pun if it is squats), and how a Mechanicus ship in Psychic Awakening encountered a Squat vessel (and being in complete disbelief about it), I can see them announcing Squats as an April Fools joke...and then having them turn out to be real.


I would be shocked if something like that was announced without any leaks or verifiable rumors. How long have we had pics of the new HH box set that wasn't announced until Adepticon? People are getting full codexes a month before they release. No way Squats are coming back and nobody has heard anything about it.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:51:50


Post by: Kanluwen


We have heard about it.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:57:07


Post by: Mentlegen324


Toofast wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I honestly think this might be Squats. With the rumours about them coming, the mention of "Something Big" (A pun if it is squats), and how a Mechanicus ship in Psychic Awakening encountered a Squat vessel (and being in complete disbelief about it), I can see them announcing Squats as an April Fools joke...and then having them turn out to be real.


I would be shocked if something like that was announced without any leaks or verifiable rumors. How long have we had pics of the new HH box set that wasn't announced until Adepticon? People are getting full codexes a month before they release. No way Squats are coming back and nobody has heard anything about it.


We have heard about it - there have been mentions of squats coming back in a (so far) verified set of rumours.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 18:58:38


Post by: Toofast


 judgedoug wrote:
 CragHack wrote:
How is the hand floating? To me it looks like it's just there. I would guess it's BFG. We've seen titan being shot by a lance in Heresy trailer. So assuming titans are for A:T, lance could've mean incoming BFG as well...


Well it's not moving and in a rictus pose, so...

I highly doubt they'd (a) rerelease BFG at all (I rate it's chances somewhere around Mordheim), and if they did, (b) not in such an underwhelming way


They said in an interview somewhere (can't remember but it was at a con) that they looked at redoing Epic and BFG, BFG was their choice but the specialist games team was too busy with their existing games to dedicate the manpower that would be necessary to bring it back. It's still on the table for the future whenever they have the time. I would guess the slowdown in releases for the other specialist games (aside from Necromunda) could be because the specialist games team has started on BFG. That's what I'm hoping for anyway. Main point is it's about 1000x more likely than Mordheim because they haven't said anything about Mordheim but specifically said "yes we want to do BFG, we don't have time right now but it's on the table for the future"


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 19:08:45


Post by: lord_blackfang


I'm guessing if Mordheim ever happens it's after The Old World


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 19:11:13


Post by: tneva82


Toofast wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I honestly think this might be Squats. With the rumours about them coming, the mention of "Something Big" (A pun if it is squats), and how a Mechanicus ship in Psychic Awakening encountered a Squat vessel (and being in complete disbelief about it), I can see them announcing Squats as an April Fools joke...and then having them turn out to be real.


I would be shocked if something like that was announced without any leaks or verifiable rumors. How long have we had pics of the new HH box set that wasn't announced until Adepticon? People are getting full codexes a month before they release. No way Squats are coming back and nobody has heard anything about it.


What you expect? Pics of codex? Just because gw would announce squats doesn't mean it's out next month. Gw could do sisters and prehype it.

We have had rumour(from which stuff has panned out) saying squats are coming. For like over half a year.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 19:14:24


Post by: Toofast


tneva82 wrote:

We have had rumour(from which stuff has panned out) saying squats are coming. For like over half a year.


You're right, I forgot about that. In that case I would say squats are a possibility. My money is on another board game like Spacehulk rather than BFG or Squats but that's just because I like to keep my expectations low about GW rather than being constantly disappointed.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 19:18:22


Post by: Togusa


What about a new Blackstone Fortress game or expansion?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 19:39:17


Post by: SamusDrake


Space Hulk.

Damn. I'd better speak to the bank manager...


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 19:42:52


Post by: Voss


I do worry that if squats ever happen, they'll be a disappointment. That they won't match whats in my head- either be really boring or over-adorned with geegaws and do-dads.

----
SamusDrake wrote:
Space Hulk.

Damn. I'd better speak to the bank manager...


Nah, they'll just have 'found' another crate and re-issue it as 'last chance' yet another time


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 19:54:51


Post by: Togusa


SamusDrake wrote:
Space Hulk.

Damn. I'd better speak to the bank manager...


I had a chance to play space hulk a few years back. I found it to be very dull and bland. Is there really a big draw for it?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 20:03:36


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 Togusa wrote:
What about a new Blackstone Fortress game or expansion?


with cursed city back (made to order) and scheduled to be back regular release with expansions it seems unlikely as they seem to only want one of these sort of games in play at a time


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/03/31 20:43:15


Post by: SamusDrake


 Togusa wrote:

I had a chance to play space hulk a few years back. I found it to be very dull and bland. Is there really a big draw for it?


Well, I managed to get a lot out of Lost Patrol so I think that speaks volumes. Its also Termies vs Genies...and I did enjoy the old EA game from the very early 90s. Also got the Blood Angels card game too.

It would be nice to have a copy of the actual game, I guess.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 09:30:00


Post by: Theophony


SamusDrake wrote:
 Togusa wrote:

I had a chance to play space hulk a few years back. I found it to be very dull and bland. Is there really a big draw for it?


Well, I managed to get a lot out of Lost Patrol so I think that speaks volumes. Its also Termies vs Genies...and I did enjoy the old EA game from the very early 90s. Also got the Blood Angels card game too.

It would be nice to have a copy of the actual game, I guess.


If it’s Space Hulk, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s NEW,UPDATED,PRIMARISIZED with aggressors vs old style genestealers.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 09:38:30


Post by: SamusDrake


 Theophony wrote:


If it’s Space Hulk, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s NEW,UPDATED,PRIMARISIZED with aggressors vs old style genestealers.


Hmmm...

Not a bad thought to be honest. I rather like the current genies and those aggressors are very much the Old-Spice men of 40K.

No, GW would have to try harder to shake my interest in Space Hulk!


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:00:57


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


And now I do not know if this is an April Fool’s joke or not.

But top marks go to everyone who wildly speculated Squats!


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:02:11


Post by: stahly


I mean Squats popped up in the rumoured list of new releases last year that has been proven to be quite accurate so far... maybe there is some truth in this April Fool's joke?

And who would have thought we would ever have a fully realised range of Genestealer Cults 10 years ago?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:04:12


Post by: SamusDrake


Okay, that does it!

This is playing with peoples emotions and its cruel!

You have gone TOO far, Mr Workshop! TOO FAR!


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:04:42


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I mean, they don’t normally put that much effort into an April Fools.

I don’t want it to be an April Fools.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:05:13


Post by: tneva82


don’t even stop to check your calendar.

Well played gw.

Got good laugh at the end


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:05:48


Post by: NAVARRO


Freaking hilarious man!

I mean all of it and even the fact it April fools.

Damn it GW!


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:06:03


Post by: lord_blackfang


This video cost too much to make for it to be a prank. It's very clearly a new Space Hulk. The prank is to release it on April Fools, but the thing is real for sure.

Maaaybe the Squat bit at the end might be fake as it's very short and seems more lazily done, so it might not be Squat heroes, but it's Space Hulk 100% IMO.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:08:08


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I think it’s a double bluff. Put it out on April Fools, but it’s not an April Fools, play your audience like a fiddle.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:09:39


Post by: Crispy78


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I mean, they don’t normally put that much effort into an April Fools.

I don’t want it to be an April Fools.


I hope GW aren't so tone-deaf as to make this an April Fools joke. It would be too cruel.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:09:48


Post by: MarkNorfolk


That was quite a cool video. At first I thought a) Battlefleet Gothic, thenb) new Space Hulk (loved the Captain pinned to the chair with his own sword) and then c) Squats, of course.

The best option is of course is d) all of the above.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:11:18


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Squat Hulk, it makes perfect sense (and i'd buy it)


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:13:14


Post by: lord_blackfang


Wait, what the heck happened on that boat?

There's a scything talon floating around in the hallway, but the Captain ripped a Chaos Cultist pendant off his killer.


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Post by: tneva82


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I think it’s a double bluff. Put it out on April Fools, but it’s not an April Fools, play your audience like a fiddle.


Thing is they put in don't check calendar...

Generally GW is pretty honest about april's fool


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:13:43


Post by: Olthannon


I hope it is a double bluff because that would be great. If it's just an April Fool's then fairplay it's a good one.

My suspicion if it is real would be something smallscale with Squat minis and if it sells well then we get a 40k army.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:14:13


Post by: zedmeister


Cruel buggers. I so want them to return


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:17:00


Post by: His Master's Voice


I assume it's Space Hulk with Squats instead of Marines.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:18:03


Post by: lord_blackfang


That curvy power armour also looks like it could be...



Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:18:28


Post by: jaredb


That's a great April Fools joke, I think my favourite yet.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:18:57


Post by: Segersgia


Question:

What was last years April Fools prank from WC?

Also thinking on a double bluff.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:21:45


Post by: Valkyrie


April Fools or not, was a pretty cool vid.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:22:39


Post by: Billicus


Pretty mean april fool


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:23:13


Post by: JSG


Being animated (kind of) makes me think it's real. IIRC their other April fools jokes were skits performed by Peachy and co., left handed paintbrushes etc.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:25:37


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’ve added a poll because I’ve not done a poll in so long. Plus I’m interested to see the results.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:26:37


Post by: Sunny Side Up


JSG wrote:
Being animated (kind of) makes me think it's real. IIRC their other April fools jokes were skits performed by Peachy and co., left handed paintbrushes etc.


They did animation as well before





Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:32:03


Post by: miniholic


How sweet....now i have finaly a reason to paint my little ols buggers


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:33:02


Post by: ImAGeek


I hate April fools.

It’s too much effort and too cruel to actually be a joke, so I think it’s a rubbish attempt at an April Fool double bluff.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:34:10


Post by: Platuan4th


 Kanluwen wrote:
Only people I've seen mention getting it are those who attended events.


I got the survey and haven't attended an official GW event since 2009(or any event since pre-Covid).


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:36:51


Post by: Sunny Side Up


 ImAGeek wrote:
I hate April fools.

It’s too much effort and too cruel to actually be a joke, so I think it’s a rubbish attempt at an April Fool double bluff.


Cruel? Maybe. Effort? No. Successful or not, they certainly have the animation-people on hand now they are doing it regularly on Warhammer+


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:39:40


Post by: deano2099


That's not a squat it's a new design true-scale Firstborn model.

I mean, if you genuinely believe that GW do leak the stuff on purpose themselves, then it's absolutely easy enough and smart to stick an April Fool in there.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:40:23


Post by: zedmeister


They could bait and switch - actually, we're going ahead with a new faction - the Demiurg!


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:40:40


Post by: Billicus


It's this line that confirms it's a joke for me:

"Tell us what you think you’ve just seen over on Facebook and Twitter right now, don’t even stop to check your calendar."

Double bluff seems really unlikely, I don't think it's a proven marketing strategy to announce something and strongly imply it's not real.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:42:19


Post by: Olthannon


Yeah I think the animation gives me a touch more hope.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:43:28


Post by: ImAGeek


Sunny Side Up wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
I hate April fools.

It’s too much effort and too cruel to actually be a joke, so I think it’s a rubbish attempt at an April Fool double bluff.


Cruel? Maybe. Effort? No. Successful or not, they certainly have the animation-people on hand now they are doing it regularly on Warhammer+


I mean this animation definitely would have taken some effort, whether it’s in house or not.


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Post by: tneva82


 Olthannon wrote:
Yeah I think the animation gives me a touch more hope.


Why? Gw has done animations for april fool's before


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:46:50


Post by: ImAGeek


tneva82 wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
Yeah I think the animation gives me a touch more hope.


Why? Gw has done animations for april fool's before


Not to this scale.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:46:54


Post by: tneva82


 ImAGeek wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
I hate April fools.

It’s too much effort and too cruel to actually be a joke, so I think it’s a rubbish attempt at an April Fool double bluff.


Cruel? Maybe. Effort? No. Successful or not, they certainly have the animation-people on hand now they are doing it regularly on Warhammer+


I mean this animation definitely would have taken some effort, whether it’s in house or not.


Hasn't stopped them before...


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:47:30


Post by: NAVARRO


 ImAGeek wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
I hate April fools.

It’s too much effort and too cruel to actually be a joke, so I think it’s a rubbish attempt at an April Fool double bluff.


Cruel? Maybe. Effort? No. Successful or not, they certainly have the animation-people on hand now they are doing it regularly on Warhammer+


I mean this animation definitely would have taken some effort, whether it’s in house or not.


Well until the last ending slides this could well be the trailer for a different purpose with an edited final.


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Post by: Platuan4th


 ImAGeek wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
Yeah I think the animation gives me a touch more hope.


Why? Gw has done animations for april fool's before


Not to this scale.


They haven't had a stable of animators to tap in the past like they do now.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:49:04


Post by: ImAGeek


Also, there is a pretty clear difference between ‘Primaris lieutenant the movie’ and ‘we’re bringing back the squats’ in terms of the effect of the joke. No one cares about a Primaris Lieutenant film. Lots of people want the Squats to come back.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:52:33


Post by: Olthannon


tneva82 wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
Yeah I think the animation gives me a touch more hope.


Why? Gw has done animations for april fool's before


A touch more hope doesn't mean HOLYTUTTIFRUTTIDINGDONGSITSREAL.

It means it's a bit more effort to go into for a big deal within the community. If it's just an April Fools joke then fair play, but I have a touch more hope.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:52:57


Post by: Sunny Side Up


 ImAGeek wrote:
Also, there is a pretty clear difference between ‘Primaris lieutenant the movie’ and ‘we’re bringing back the squats’ in terms of the effect of the joke. No one cares about a Primaris Lieutenant film. Lots of people want the Squats to come back.


Sure. Which is why the Primaris Lieutenant the Movie never actually fooled anyone in an April's Fool-kinda way. As far as the idea of April Fools goes, Squats fit the assignment much better


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:54:13


Post by: Segersgia


The “they’ve done jokes with animated stuff before” doesn’t necessarily work, because that Lieutenant movie joke was most definitely made using reused assets. This trailer doesn’t have that, unless most of the assets are going to be used in a future Space Hulk game.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:55:52


Post by: Platuan4th


 Segersgia wrote:
The “they’ve done jokes with animated stuff before” doesn’t necessarily work, because that Lieutenant movie joke was most definitely made using reused assets. This trailer doesn’t have that, unless most of the assets are going to be used in a future Space Hulk game.


Ok, and? They're regularly producing animated shows now, they don't need to reuse assets.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:56:01


Post by: krijthebold


I mean, considering that the community post actually says "don't stop to check your calendar"...

Yeah, I'm thinking it's an april fools joke.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:57:25


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


The thumbnail says “you won’t believe what’s coming” though.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:57:30


Post by: JSG


Squats were in the so far 100% correct leaks. Squats are coming back.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 10:58:22


Post by: The Phazer


I mean, the thing about it being an April's Fool is that we have an extremely credible leak saying that it's not.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:00:44


Post by: Segersgia


 Platuan4th wrote:
 Segersgia wrote:
The “they’ve done jokes with animated stuff before” doesn’t necessarily work, because that Lieutenant movie joke was most definitely made using reused assets. This trailer doesn’t have that, unless most of the assets are going to be used in a future Space Hulk game.


Ok, and? They're regularly producing animated shows now, they don't need to reuse assets.


That still doesn’t make the time and money spent on creating those assets worthwhile for a joke. The amount of effort needed for what was shown isn’t going to happen on a small side project meant as a marketing joke.

It still could be a joke, but I think that it is most likely then that that last shot with the Squat is a replacement of what the actual reveal could be.


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Post by: ImAGeek


Sunny Side Up wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Also, there is a pretty clear difference between ‘Primaris lieutenant the movie’ and ‘we’re bringing back the squats’ in terms of the effect of the joke. No one cares about a Primaris Lieutenant film. Lots of people want the Squats to come back.


Sure. Which is why the Primaris Lieutenant the Movie never actually fooled anyone in an April's Fool-kinda way. As far as the idea of April Fools goes, Squats fit the assignment much better


I don’t think it’s a particularly good idea for companies to actually get peoples hopes up with something they actually want for an April fools joke and then piss them off by it just being a joke, and I imagine GW know that too. They’ve always been pretty obviously jokes and things no one actually wants in the past.


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Post by: Olthannon


One other thing in the "it's real" camp is the cinematic itself. The code says access denied and then access granted.. as if something with an old code managed to get through.


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Post by: H.B.M.C.


If it's real, great. Maybe a new take on Space Hulk with a team of Squats fighting a brand new Genestealer kit.

If it's fake, that's pretty cruel.


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Post by: Commodus Leitdorf


Nothing on the internet should be trusted on April 1st.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:04:58


Post by: Fayric


This is a premium april fools gag made for paying warhammer+ customers, but someone screwed up and put up for the plebs.


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Post by: Platuan4th


 Segersgia wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Segersgia wrote:
The “they’ve done jokes with animated stuff before” doesn’t necessarily work, because that Lieutenant movie joke was most definitely made using reused assets. This trailer doesn’t have that, unless most of the assets are going to be used in a future Space Hulk game.


Ok, and? They're regularly producing animated shows now, they don't need to reuse assets.


That still doesn’t make the time and money spent on creating those assets worthwhile for a joke. The amount of effort needed for what was shown isn’t going to happen on a small side project meant as a marketing joke.


I point to companies like Hasbro funding and commissioning an entire freaking comic book as an April Fool's joke to show that companies are willing to put way more money, effort, and resources than you think into these things.


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Olthannon wrote:
One other thing in the "it's real" camp is the cinematic itself. The code says access denied and then access granted.. as if something with an old code managed to get through.


Or the know how of how to bypass.


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Post by: H.B.M.C.


The BattleTech guys always do fun April Fool's. One year they put out a fully functioning set of "Power Ups" for BattleTech, like video-game style power ups, for for BattleTech.

Another year they released a full RPG that combined BattleTech and Shadowrun, just 'cause they could.


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Post by: krijthebold


I mean, I'd be happy it for it to be real, but again, the whole phrasing of "share this! don't look at what day it is!" makes me pretty suspicious.


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Post by: tneva82


 ImAGeek wrote:
Also, there is a pretty clear difference between ‘Primaris lieutenant the movie’ and ‘we’re bringing back the squats’ in terms of the effect of the joke. No one cares about a Primaris Lieutenant film. Lots of people want the Squats to come back.


Which makes it better as a joke


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:11:30


Post by: ImAGeek


tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Also, there is a pretty clear difference between ‘Primaris lieutenant the movie’ and ‘we’re bringing back the squats’ in terms of the effect of the joke. No one cares about a Primaris Lieutenant film. Lots of people want the Squats to come back.


Which makes it better as a joke


Makes it crueler as a joke, not better.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:12:03


Post by: Sunny Side Up


Maybe they'll re-use the video up until the key change to announce the new Primaris Investigatorrators coming with the new Codex in June.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:12:13


Post by: tneva82


 The Phazer wrote:
I mean, the thing about it being an April's Fool is that we have an extremely credible leak saying that it's not.


Which could have been born from them seeing this video or part in advance and doing 1+1=3 sum...


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:12:55


Post by: ekwatts


I'd love this to be real.

I'd also love this to be a joke.

It's worthwhile either way.

Anybody getting properly upset about it being a joke (and I would love to have Squats come back, believe me) needs to get over themselves.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:13:16


Post by: tneva82


 ImAGeek wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Also, there is a pretty clear difference between ‘Primaris lieutenant the movie’ and ‘we’re bringing back the squats’ in terms of the effect of the joke. No one cares about a Primaris Lieutenant film. Lots of people want the Squats to come back.


Which makes it better as a joke


Makes it crueler as a joke, not better.


Cruel for some who can't get any jokes anyway, funny for normal people


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:13:45


Post by: ImAGeek


tneva82 wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
I mean, the thing about it being an April's Fool is that we have an extremely credible leak saying that it's not.


Which could have been born from them seeing this video or part in advance and doing 1+1=3 sum...


Yeah sure, that’s the most likely explanation.


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Post by: deano2099


 The Phazer wrote:
I mean, the thing about it being an April's Fool is that we have an extremely credible leak saying that it's not.

Depends where you think the leak came from. If the conspiracy theorists are right and GW leaks this stuff on purpose as a guerrilla marketing technique then it'd be trivial to include something in that leak as part of an April Fools gag.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:15:48


Post by: Mr_Rose


Made me LOL so objective secured AFAIC.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:17:18


Post by: insaniak


 ImAGeek wrote:

I don’t think it’s a particularly good idea for companies to actually get peoples hopes up with something they actually want for an April fools joke and then piss them off by it just being a joke, and I imagine GW know that too. They’ve always been pretty obviously jokes and things no one actually wants in the past.

I suspect that there is a fairly stark difference between interest in Squats that GW think the 40K playerbase has, and interest in Squats that the online community thinks the 40K playerbase has.


I do agree though that it is annoying and frustrating when something played as a gag is something that you actually want.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:19:06


Post by: Crispy78


tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Also, there is a pretty clear difference between ‘Primaris lieutenant the movie’ and ‘we’re bringing back the squats’ in terms of the effect of the joke. No one cares about a Primaris Lieutenant film. Lots of people want the Squats to come back.


Which makes it better as a joke


Makes it crueler as a joke, not better.


Cruel for some who can't get any jokes anyway, funny for normal people


That thing you've wanted for years, we're finally going to give it to you. Ha ha, only joking, no we're not! Screw you!

Why aren't you laughing???


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:29:31


Post by: BrotherGecko


People in here offended on behalf of that one guy who hasn't gotten over GW squatting his squats 30 years ago.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:30:07


Post by: Siegfriedfr


They really have a twisted sense of humour.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:32:04


Post by: Sunny Side Up


Lol. It's not like they haven't done Squats and Plastic Thunderhawk jokes and the likes before.


I thought it was a cool April's Fools. Certainly a million % better than the Primaris Lieutenant movie


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:32:25


Post by: Lord Damocles


Ah. Remember the plastic battle sisters in the bin skit? Good times...


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:35:09


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


I mean, it's not as if there hasn't been a mention of them having survivours in the current fluff. Including new models through Necromunda.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:36:10


Post by: Malika2


That video was amazing, just really well executed!


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:38:37


Post by: Londinium


I reckon we're getting something squat related and they're just using April Fools day as cover to create even more conversation.

Squats have been rumoured through leaks prior to this and the video looks far too serious and well produced to be a prank. I'm also not really feeling Space Hulk - the guy on the chair has clearly been stabbed by something capable of holding a sword, so not Tyranids. If you're not using Genestealers than you might as well call it a new Warhammer Quest game, not Space Hulk.

On the flip side, the Squat's accent is silly and his dialogue is clearly for laughs, so it might just be a prank.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:38:52


Post by: morgaur


I think it's legit that Squats are coming back in some form. Releasing the first teaser video on april fool's day is also the best way to ensure lots of discussion on the internet, so I'd say that's an objective accomplished.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:47:46


Post by: Skinnereal


It'll be Squats Kill Team, and an entry in the up-coming IG/AM codex. As they have done for Corsairs.

I'll take 3

If not ....


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:51:53


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


I don't think there should be any discussion wheather or not this is an April Fools' joke, given it was literally posted on the first of April.


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Post by: The Black Adder


I think there's a fair few people who might want to see squats return but if this is a joke on some level then I'm not sure why anybody would actually be upset by it. Is anybody here upset or just commenting that some imaginary squat fan might be unhappy?

Skinnereal, I like the idea of a kill team. Particularly if the environment they realise them for is a corridor fighting Hulk setting.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:57:24


Post by: Chikout


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I don't think there should be any discussion wheather or not this is an April Fools' joke, given it was literally posted on the first of April.


I mean it's a April fools joke, but the joke is that it's real. We all already know squats are coming thanks to the 100% correct leak of multiple releases. The only question is whether it's just a kill team thing or something more. I think it will be Kill team for now with a full release maybe next year.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 11:58:23


Post by: Kinetochore


Do I win a prize for guessing right on pg 1?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 12:02:06


Post by: gungo


My guess squats are returning but it’s smaller like dkok killteam… an entire army line would require a much larger release and like the sisters release that is years in the making.

And I only believe it’s legit releasing because of the confirmed leaks that said squats.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 12:02:12


Post by: Crispy78


The Black Adder wrote:
I think there's a fair few people who might want to see squats return but if this is a joke on some level then I'm not sure why anybody would actually be upset by it. Is anybody here upset or just commenting that some imaginary squat fan might be unhappy?


Upset is maybe putting it too strongly, but I'd definitely be disappointed and it would make me think less of GW as a company. Trolling your customers by telling them something they want is going to happen, then snatching it away, isn't really funny to me. Just feels cruel really.

I didn't even collect Squats back in the day, but I've always liked fantasy dwarfs and would certainly be interested in their return to 40K.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 12:02:36


Post by: tneva82


Chikout wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I don't think there should be any discussion wheather or not this is an April Fools' joke, given it was literally posted on the first of April.


I mean it's a April fools joke, but the joke is that it's real. We all already know squats are coming thanks to the 100% correct leak of multiple releases. The only question is whether it's just a kill team thing or something more. I think it will be Kill team for now with a full release maybe next year.


Except even reliable rumour mongers get stuff wrong...

I mean we have had reliable rumour teller with very high rate say Angron was imminent. This when only 1 primarch had been released...

Where's that Angron?

Can you be sure that the leaker didn't see this and think it means squats are coming?


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 12:03:57


Post by: GaroRobe


 Fayric wrote:
This is a premium april fools gag made for paying warhammer+ customers, but someone screwed up and put up for the plebs.


Ah yes. They made the mistake of posting a teaser trailer yesterday, the video today, and posted it on other social media sites


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 12:04:43


Post by: Overread


Right now I'd put money on a Killteam squad. GW seem set to use it a bit like they use Underworlds and Warcry for AoS in releasing niche themed forces that are really cool concepts, but just not enough for a full blown army; but which can slot into other forces.


It even fits with going into a derelict ship and all - heck perhaps GW is going to even more Killteam into a Space Crusade system. Random races fighting over card terrain chunks which gives huge scope for loads of random xenos and niche factions fighting over wrecked hulks - not just Tyranids and Terminators


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 12:05:15


Post by: The Phazer


deano2099 wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
I mean, the thing about it being an April's Fool is that we have an extremely credible leak saying that it's not.

Depends where you think the leak came from. If the conspiracy theorists are right and GW leaks this stuff on purpose as a guerrilla marketing technique then it'd be trivial to include something in that leak as part of an April Fools gag.


I think people who routinely think that leaks are done on purpose are loons, personally.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 12:08:16


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 The Phazer wrote:
deano2099 wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
I mean, the thing about it being an April's Fool is that we have an extremely credible leak saying that it's not.

Depends where you think the leak came from. If the conspiracy theorists are right and GW leaks this stuff on purpose as a guerrilla marketing technique then it'd be trivial to include something in that leak as part of an April Fools gag.


I think people who routinely think that leaks are done on purpose are loons, personally.


Have you seen the amount of them?

GW's basically entire release scheudle for a year and then some forward has been leaked, and there's a bunch of potato cam pictures before pretty much every big reveal.

GW must be horrendously incompetent for those to NOT be on purpose.


Squats return! - Page 11 @ 2022/04/01 12:09:43


Post by: Overread


 The Phazer wrote:
deano2099 wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
I mean, the thing about it being an April's Fool is that we have an extremely credible leak saying that it's not.

Depends where you think the leak came from. If the conspiracy theorists are right and GW leaks this stuff on purpose as a guerrilla marketing technique then it'd be trivial to include something in that leak as part of an April Fools gag.


I think people who routinely think that leaks are done on purpose are loons, personally.


There are clearly a few leaks that GW does encourage/leak themselves. However they are generally very close to official releases not a long way out; and sometimes they are just to mask those leaks that really do happen as information spreads out closer to a release and stuff ends up in more hands etc... GW is certainly not leaking massive stuff deliberately, however the difference is they now either ignore them or roll with them publicly. It's not like the Kirby days where they'd send nasty letters to news and social groups spreading leaks and go on a witch hunt.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
deano2099 wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
I mean, the thing about it being an April's Fool is that we have an extremely credible leak saying that it's not.

Depends where you think the leak came from. If the conspiracy theorists are right and GW leaks this stuff on purpose as a guerrilla marketing technique then it'd be trivial to include something in that leak as part of an April Fools gag.


I think people who routinely think that leaks are done on purpose are loons, personally.


Have you seen the amount of them?

GW's basically entire release scheudle for a year and then some forward has been leaked, and there's a bunch of potato cam pictures before pretty much every big reveal.

GW must be horrendously incompetent for those to NOT be on purpose.


Not really. They are a company making toys where a predominant number of their staff are fans of the toys themselves. Furthermore with much of their production in the west (UK) it stands to reason that there's a lot of levels of staff who can leak stuff reliably. They are also WAY bigger than most other wargame firms. It's not 10 people in a room making stuff and then having production done by a factory in china where a language barrier and more means leaks are unlikely. It's 100s of people - so yeah leaks can most certainly happen at multiple levels.


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Post by: Gert


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Have you seen the amount of them?

GW's basically entire release scheudle for a year and then some forward has been leaked, and there's a bunch of potato cam pictures before pretty much every big reveal.

GW must be horrendously incompetent for those to NOT be on purpose.

Hasbro routinely has not just its entire Transformers toy lines details leaked but toys are fully shown months before they are supposed to be announced. Both the Kingdom and Legacy lines had their lineups leaked, their toys shown months early, and even the street dates have been tossed out the window since stores are getting stuff seemingly months in advance. Compared to that, GW having its 40k schedule leaked is small fries.


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Post by: Platuan4th


 Gert wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Have you seen the amount of them?

GW's basically entire release scheudle for a year and then some forward has been leaked, and there's a bunch of potato cam pictures before pretty much every big reveal.

GW must be horrendously incompetent for those to NOT be on purpose.

Hasbro routinely has not just its entire Transformers toy lines details leaked but toys are fully shown months before they are supposed to be announced. Both the Kingdom and Legacy lines had their lineups leaked, their toys shown months early, and even the street dates have been tossed out the window since stores are getting stuff seemingly months in advance. Compared to that, GW having its 40k schedule leaked is small fries.


GW also doesn't have the whole "lunchtime special" issue, either.


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Post by: PenitentJake


Yeah, a KT of Squats, if well executed could supply both basic troops and a handful of characters to be used as HQ or elite.

If there is a Wahammer Quest 40k game coming, that can introduce more models. And finally, there's Ash Wastes too, which could bring bikes and trikes.

Then the "dex" could be in a campaign book or a White Dwarf.

I wonder how long it will take for them to give us actual answers.


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Post by: KidCthulhu


I will be very disappointed if this is just a joke.

I see some people going, "What? Upset over a friend who's army got squatted 30 years ago?" Well, what if it was YOUR favorite faction that happened to and they messed with YOU?

I know if they teased Harlequins, Admech, or GSC and then said, "We're not really making those models. Just a joke, mate!" to me, I'd be less than happy.


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Post by: GaroRobe


 KidCthulhu wrote:
I will be very disappointed if this is just a joke.

I see some people going, "What? Upset over a friend who's army got squatted 30 years ago?" Well, what if it was YOUR favorite faction that happened to and they messed with YOU?

I know if they teased Harlequins, Admech, or GSC and then said, "We're not really making those models. Just a joke, mate!" to me, I'd be less than happy.


30 years is a long time to hold a grudge. You have the heart of a true squat and I salute you for it


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Post by: ImAGeek


 GaroRobe wrote:
 KidCthulhu wrote:
I will be very disappointed if this is just a joke.

I see some people going, "What? Upset over a friend who's army got squatted 30 years ago?" Well, what if it was YOUR favorite faction that happened to and they messed with YOU?

I know if they teased Harlequins, Admech, or GSC and then said, "We're not really making those models. Just a joke, mate!" to me, I'd be less than happy.


30 years is a long time to hold a grudge. You have the heart of a true squat and I salute you for it


There’s a difference between holding a grudge for 30 years, and getting over it but then the company starts making a joke out of it. Don’t have to have been annoyed for 30 years to be re-annoyed by it now. (I know you were making a squat/grudge joke but still)


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Post by: judgedoug


 judgedoug wrote:
 CragHack wrote:
How is the hand floating? To me it looks like it's just there. I would guess it's BFG. We've seen titan being shot by a lance in Heresy trailer. So assuming titans are for A:T, lance could've mean incoming BFG as well...


Well it's not moving and in a rictus pose, so...

I highly doubt they'd (a) rerelease BFG at all (I rate it's chances somewhere around Mordheim), and if they did, (b) not in such an underwhelming way


Welp at least I got the floating corpse part right


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Post by: DarkStarSabre


The greatest April Fools joke would be if this was actually a legitimate reveal.


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Post by: Mr Morden


Hopefully not an April Fool


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Post by: Platuan4th


 DarkStarSabre wrote:
The greatest April Fools joke would be if this was actually a legitimate reveal.


I honestly think it's a bit of both. We'll get Squat models/units, but they'll be like Corsairs and not an army.


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Post by: lord_blackfang


 Platuan4th wrote:
 DarkStarSabre wrote:
The greatest April Fools joke would be if this was actually a legitimate reveal.


I honestly think it's a bit of both. We'll get Squat models/units, but they'll be like Corsairs and not an army.


The "reveal" shows them in some type of Space Hulk dealio, so it's not even implying an army


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Post by: GaroRobe


Twitter says they’ll have triangle bases and the article says don’t check your calendar :/


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Post by: bullyboy


If a joke, cue the Will Smith meme with customers as Will and GW animators as Chris Rock.

I think it could easily be a kill team expansion. Great way to introduce them.

On the other hand, the animation may be for something else and the squat was just added as the April Fool at the end of something legit.


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Post by: scarletsquig


Got plenty of the little beardy guys from Mantic already, almost all hard plastic too:



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Post by: Kanluwen


 GaroRobe wrote:
Twitter says they’ll have triangle bases and the article says don’t check your calendar :/

That's not exactly true...
Someone On Twitter wrote:Are they going to be on hexagonal bases?

Warhammer Community wrote:Why not triangular?


Warhammer Community Article wrote:Tell us what you think you’ve just seen over on Facebook and Twitter right now, don’t even stop to check your calendar. Sign up for our newsletter too so that you can keep up with all of the Warhammer updates, no matter how big or small.


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Post by: Agamemnon2


I'm a long-term Squat fan who owns more Squats than most of you, so I don't have that much skin in this game. To me the joke, if it's just a joke, doesn't work that well since both the headline pointing out the story itself as unbelievable, and the mention of the calendar, clearly indicate that this is a joke which is kind of breaking the pretense of reality a good April fool joke is built on.

But if it is, eh, whatever. I like the design we see at the end of the video since it looks to be a fairly original looking realization of the old Squat concept that I would love to see in a non-silhouetted form.


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Post by: Tresson


 BrotherGecko wrote:
People in here offended on behalf of that one guy who hasn't gotten over GW squatting his squats 30 years ago.


Compared to the guy that is offened by the people offended on behalf of that one guy who hasn't gotten over GW squatting his squats 30 years ago.


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Post by: deano2099


If it's something new in the Warhammer Quest line (which stands to reason they'd want something new in the 40K universe as Blackstone Fortress did better than the AoS games) then a single Squat hero in that seems realistic.


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Post by: Mentlegen324


I was right about it being Squats!

The main thing that suggests this isn't just an April Fools day joke is the design of the squat himself. I can't really see them going through the effort of designing/updating their looks in a way that still stays in line with their original theming (the plasma weapon is clearly an updated design on the classic version they had for example) just for a joke. I'd have expected them to use some classic artwork or an old miniature photo or something along those lines rather than making an entirely reasonable trailer.


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Post by: Strg Alt


 Mr Morden wrote:
Hopefully not an April Fool


Somebody got high on the Hopeium.

I can´t believe that 56% got fooled by GW into thinking Squats will return.


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Post by: Dudeface


 Strg Alt wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Hopefully not an April Fool


Somebody got high on the Hopeium.

I can´t believe that 56% got fooled by GW into thinking Squats will return.


There's a 100% accurate rumour dump from august last year saying squats are coming....


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Post by: JimmyWolf87


 Strg Alt wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Hopefully not an April Fool


Somebody got high on the Hopeium.

I can´t believe that 56% got fooled by GW into thinking Squats will return.


There's more than enough reasonable doubt on both sides of that at this point. Squats have already returned in Necromunda anyway so, as limited as that format is, it's not as earth shattering a change in their status as it once might have been.


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Post by: Mentlegen324


Dudeface wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Hopefully not an April Fool


Somebody got high on the Hopeium.

I can´t believe that 56% got fooled by GW into thinking Squats will return.


There's a 100% accurate rumour dump from august last year saying squats are coming....


Then there's how squats have actually returned already. If this was a few years back and we didn't have Grendlsen and Gunnstein Miniatures, and they hadn't appeared in Psychic Awakening, then this would be a different matter and far less likely.


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Post by: Dread Master


I voted joke, but however it shakes out, that trailer is a win!


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Post by: Wha-Mu-077


You could very easily make this video into a Space Hulk trailer by removing the Squat, so i mean, i guess that's where it comes from.


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Post by: Pacific


 Strg Alt wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Hopefully not an April Fool


Somebody got high on the Hopeium.

I can´t believe that 56% got fooled by GW into thinking Squats will return.


That's my thought too... Jesus fething wept, I can't believe how many people think this is actually heralding the return of the Squats. I am genuinely amazed.

I agree that its odd that so much effort was spent on the animation, but it could easily have been an aborted project from Warhammer+ or from elsewhere, up until the final 15 seconds, and repurposed for this.



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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Guess we’ll know if the WarCom post stays up into tomorrow?


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Post by: ImAGeek


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Guess we’ll know if the WarCom post stays up into tomorrow?


I think they always stay up. I guess we’ll know when either something more comes of it, or it doesn’t.


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Post by: Overread


My gut feeling is if it was a joke GW would't have left it open ended at the end of the video. Good April jokes from companies have to have a clear "This is a joke" part to them otherwise they can backfire horribly.



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Post by: Rihgu


scarletsquig wrote:
Got plenty of the little beardy guys from Mantic already, almost all hard plastic too:

Spoiler:

Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


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Post by: His Master's Voice


 Pacific wrote:

That's my thought too... Jesus fething wept, I can't believe how many people think this is actually heralding the return of the Squats. I am genuinely amazed.


GW knows that the only thing that sells better than plastic crack is nostalgic plastic crack. Squats returning is a "when", not an "if".


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Post by: lord_blackfang


 Rihgu wrote:
Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


Maybe the real april fools are the people posting random Mantic hate for no reason


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Post by: zend


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 DarkStarSabre wrote:
The greatest April Fools joke would be if this was actually a legitimate reveal.


I honestly think it's a bit of both. We'll get Squat models/units, but they'll be like Corsairs and not an army.


The "reveal" shows them in some type of Space Hulk dealio, so it's not even implying an army


I really wish they would release a new edition of Space Hulk with non Space Marine expansions, including one that has rules to run a Squat salvage/extermination crew. They could even make the Squat kit cross compatible with Kill Team and Necro if they plan it right.




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Post by: Dudeface


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Rihgu wrote:
Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


Maybe the real april fools are the people posting random Mantic hate for no reason


Was gonna say, it's not that bad and it's certainly not "burn it if it was free" bad.


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Post by: cuda1179


Let's just assume that this is actually NOT a joke. What could we infer about Squats? Looks like they have access to some kind of power armor, they have Power Fists and plasma pistols. Looks like they are keeping with a slightly modded Imperial aesthetic.


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Post by: tauist


1st of April = April, fools!


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Post by: GaroRobe


Hard to see if the boots match the rumor engine but if so, we’ll have a floaty ancient as a potential HQ choice


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Post by: lord_blackfang


 cuda1179 wrote:
Let's just assume that this is actually NOT a joke. What could we infer about Squats? Looks like they have access to some kind of power armor, they have Power Fists and plasma pistols. Looks like they are keeping with a slightly modded Imperial aesthetic.


The little dude not being an overdesigned mess is perhaps the strongest argument for the squat teaser not being real


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Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Rihgu wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:
Got plenty of the little beardy guys from Mantic already, almost all hard plastic too:

Spoiler:

Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


Hey, lots of people bought the Repulsive- i mean, the Repulsor from Geedubs, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.

I mean, i for sure like much more than the Primaris tanks.


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Post by: Platuan4th


 Overread wrote:
My gut feeling is if it was a joke GW would't have left it open ended at the end of the video. Good April jokes from companies have to have a clear "This is a joke" part to them otherwise they can backfire horribly.



Counterpoint: A number of companies have ended up actually producing their April Fool's products because they received such a positive feedback from them.


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Post by: Warptide


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 cuda1179 wrote:
Let's just assume that this is actually NOT a joke. What could we infer about Squats? Looks like they have access to some kind of power armor, they have Power Fists and plasma pistols. Looks like they are keeping with a slightly modded Imperial aesthetic.


The little dude not being an overdesigned mess is perhaps the strongest argument for the squat teaser not being real


I think you hit the nail on the head right here.

That being said I bet some kind of squat miniature will be released at some point this year. Not necessarily a full range.


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Post by: Billicus


There's already a couple for Necromunda.


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Post by: ekwatts


Squats have never really gone away. They still existed, they just weren't an army anymore, or a force worth reckoning with.

And this doesn't give us any real clues as to what capacity they're coming "back", either. We have the Necromunda figures, so even prior to this video you've had the ability to buy a Squat pre-2022. And I suspect that, if this trailer turns out to be "real", we still aren't going to be seeing a full army, at least not yet. I would think we'll see them return either as a single character model in another WQ game and/or even a full Kill Team squad as part of an expansion focussing on hostile boarding actions.


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Post by: Rihgu


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Rihgu wrote:
Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


Maybe the real april fools are the people posting random Mantic hate for no reason


"Random" and "for no reason" are interesting words to choose to use here. Very interesting!


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Post by: Mr.Pickels


I'd love to see squats added to IG codex like the Corsairs were added to Eldar's new book, you just need 1 HQ choice and 1 unit that can be built different ways, easy to do, and IG could use more heavy infantry, Orgyns/Bullgryns for melee, Stormtroopers/Scions for deployment/ movement, and then Squats for shooting.


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Post by: stroller


April fool - a good one....


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Post by: Platuan4th


 Rihgu wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Rihgu wrote:
Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


Maybe the real april fools are the people posting random Mantic hate for no reason


"Random" and "for no reason" are interesting words to choose to use here. Very interesting!


Right? You directly responded about a thing posted in this very thread. Nothing random about it.


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Post by: kodos


scarletsquig wrote:Got plenty of the little beardy guys from Mantic already, almost all hard plastic too:
Spoiler:

I as well
even if the GW finally makes plastic Space Dwarfes, too little too late for me to get hyped
the joke was funny 4 years ago, but now it slowly gets old
Dudeface wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Rihgu wrote:
Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


Maybe the real april fools are the people posting random Mantic hate for no reason

Was gonna say, it's not that bad and it's certainly not "burn it if it was free" bad.

given that the tank can be turned into all variants (including the transport) without the need for magnets, for the same price the Rhino/Razor cost, I fail to understand why people are still give GW money for those


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Post by: Breotan


- Looks at the calendar.
- Decides to log off the internet for the day.



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Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 kodos wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:Got plenty of the little beardy guys from Mantic already, almost all hard plastic too:
Spoiler:

I as well
even if the GW finally makes plastic Space Dwarfes, too little too late for me to get hyped
the joke was funny 4 years ago, but now it slowly gets old
Dudeface wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Rihgu wrote:
Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


Maybe the real april fools are the people posting random Mantic hate for no reason

Was gonna say, it's not that bad and it's certainly not "burn it if it was free" bad.

given that the tank can be turned into all variants (including the transport) without the need for magnets, for the same price the Rhino/Razor cost, I fail to understand why people are still give GW money for those


Why do people still buy FIFA games?
There are some mysteries of lfie we might never know the answer to.


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Post by: ProfSrlojohn


You know, real or fake, i'd be interested to see how they would work them in, as a complete army anyway. Would they be under imperium? Their own faction?

Honestly, i'd think it'd be neat for them to be seperate from the imperium. The supposed hive fleet destriction was simply a cover story and the squats are fine. However, a row with the mechanicus saw them excommunicated and they're now on their own, bitter against everyone. The imperium is now on the grudge list just like the Orks and the Eldar.


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Post by: Strg Alt


JimmyWolf87 wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Hopefully not an April Fool


Somebody got high on the Hopeium.

I can´t believe that 56% got fooled by GW into thinking Squats will return.


There's more than enough reasonable doubt on both sides of that at this point. Squats have already returned in Necromunda anyway so, as limited as that format is, it's not as earth shattering a change in their status as it once might have been.


Correct! One measly model is honestly enough so that GW don´t need to bother releasing a WHOLE model range for 40K.


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Post by: JSG


In the time I'd need to spend creating copes for Mantic's awful looking models I could earn the money needed for a GW army.


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Post by: Daedalus81


 The Phazer wrote:
I mean, the thing about it being an April's Fool is that we have an extremely credible leak saying that it's not.


It's the GW long con. They themselves are the leakers and they planted that rumor to make the April Fools more believable!


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Post by: Pacific


I know not all of Mantic's stuff is top tier, but do you really think they look awful?
I think they look great. Probably actually pretty close to the kind of thing that GW would be doing if they were still a thing.







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Post by: tneva82


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I was right about it being Squats!

The main thing that suggests this isn't just an April Fools day joke is the design of the squat himself. I can't really see them going through the effort of designing/updating their looks in a way that still stays in line with their original theming (the plasma weapon is clearly an updated design on the classic version they had for example) just for a joke. I'd have expected them to use some classic artwork or an old miniature photo or something along those lines rather than making an entirely reasonable trailer.


You ignore there's modern squat model out. They have updated art.


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Post by: NAVARRO


 Strg Alt wrote:
JimmyWolf87 wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Hopefully not an April Fool


Somebody got high on the Hopeium.

I can´t believe that 56% got fooled by GW into thinking Squats will return.


There's more than enough reasonable doubt on both sides of that at this point. Squats have already returned in Necromunda anyway so, as limited as that format is, it's not as earth shattering a change in their status as it once might have been.


Correct! One measly model is honestly enough so that GW don´t need to bother releasing a WHOLE model range for 40K.


I would rather have a box of 10 for Necromunda then weapons options sprue and then maybe a box with 3 suits again all for Necromunda... Now that would be much better than the overpriced gak you get on 40k.


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Post by: tneva82


 Overread wrote:
My gut feeling is if it was a joke GW would't have left it open ended at the end of the video. Good April jokes from companies have to have a clear "This is a joke" part to them otherwise they can backfire horribly.



They pointed out to calendar in article.

Primaris lt the movie video made no mention it being joke either. Date is the hint gw uses for it


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Post by: Mentlegen324


tneva82 wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I was right about it being Squats!

The main thing that suggests this isn't just an April Fools day joke is the design of the squat himself. I can't really see them going through the effort of designing/updating their looks in a way that still stays in line with their original theming (the plasma weapon is clearly an updated design on the classic version they had for example) just for a joke. I'd have expected them to use some classic artwork or an old miniature photo or something along those lines rather than making an entirely reasonable trailer.


You ignore there's modern squat model out. They have updated art.


What I said still applies - the set of equipment seen here is clearly not the same as the miniatures released. They still updated another design for this. They didn't use a classic squat miniature photo, some of the retro art, or even the art for Grendlsen, all something that would have clearly shown it was a joke....instead they went out of their way to unneccesarily re-design something and give it a suitable updated look.


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Post by: Rihgu


 Pacific wrote:
I know not all of Mantic's stuff is top tier, but do you really think they look awful?
I think they look great. Probably actually pretty close to the kind of thing that GW would be doing if they were still a thing.

Well, it certainly helps that you didn't post the singular absolutely awful looking model I was referring to. Those are all... fine. The hammers' heads look about as bad as the tank but everything else is serviceable.

Just please, nobody post that tank again. I've got breakfast I'm trying to hold in.


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Post by: GaroRobe


tneva82 wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I was right about it being Squats!

The main thing that suggests this isn't just an April Fools day joke is the design of the squat himself. I can't really see them going through the effort of designing/updating their looks in a way that still stays in line with their original theming (the plasma weapon is clearly an updated design on the classic version they had for example) just for a joke. I'd have expected them to use some classic artwork or an old miniature photo or something along those lines rather than making an entirely reasonable trailer.


You ignore there's modern squat model out. They have updated art.


And neither FW model really matches the silhouette. Yes, a necromunda squat has a Mohawk, but neither have that gun or power fist or even armor


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Post by: 2x210


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Rihgu wrote:
Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


Maybe the real april fools are the people posting random Mantic hate for no reason


Mantic dares to offer an alternate to the Games Workshop Imperium and that will not be tolerated by the Fanboyium Legois


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Post by: Dudeface


 Rihgu wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
I know not all of Mantic's stuff is top tier, but do you really think they look awful?
I think they look great. Probably actually pretty close to the kind of thing that GW would be doing if they were still a thing.

Well, it certainly helps that you didn't post the singular absolutely awful looking model I was referring to. Those are all... fine. The hammers' heads look about as bad as the tank but everything else is serviceable.

Just please, nobody post that tank again. I've got breakfast I'm trying to hold in.


What about this one?



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Post by: Rihgu


2x210 wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Rihgu wrote:
Ha, you got me. For a second I thought somebody actually paid money for that tank in the middle, but luckily I saw the calendar


Maybe the real april fools are the people posting random Mantic hate for no reason


Mantic dares to offer an alternate to the Games Workshop Imperium and that will not be tolerated by the Fanboyium Legois

Honestly very excited if this turns out to not be an April Fool joke so that I can go into Mantic Threads and post GW's alternate options. I'm sure that will be tolerated by the Fanboyium Corps or whatever.

What about this one?

Well, now you've gone and done it you absolute cretin!


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Gents if you could just PM each other pics of you’re gentleman’s unmentionables, and stop clogging up my thread with pointless bickering.


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Post by: Rihgu


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Gents if you could just PM each other pics of you’re gentleman’s unmentionables, and stop clogging up my thread with pointless bickering.


I'll slide out of this thread but before I go I do feel the need to say that I do NOT consent to Unsolicited Dwarf Pics.


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Post by: kodos


 Rihgu wrote:
Honestly very excited if this turns out to not be an April Fool joke so that I can go into Mantic Threads and post GW's alternate options. I'm sure that will be tolerated by the Fanboyium Corps or whatever.

simply depends on how they look and the price
not like a lot of people already using GW models for Mantic games and people are ok with it because "use whatever model you like"

but it is not like in the past for April Fools people posted Mantic models with GW logos and you got some into how awesome those new factions look because "made by GW"

PS: for those who think such animation is too much afford and too well made to be an Aprils Fools joke:




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Post by: Tannhauser42


I think it's just that some of us remember all the years of GW cutting every cost and pinching every penny to prop up their profits that makes it hard to believe they would spend more than few dollars on an April Fool's joke.


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Post by: Dudeface


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Gents if you could just PM each other pics of you’re gentleman’s unmentionables, and stop clogging up my thread with pointless bickering.


Jeez for an Aprils fools joke thread there's not much tolerance for some friendly banter.


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Post by: silverstu


Nah, I think its real- a double bluff to get folks talking and using April fools as a way to announce the Squats return. Guessing a new Killteam set in a ship like Space Hulk [or maybe a one off game like space hulk].
Some guy on FB has mentioned the title "Votunn" but I'm not sure if he has heard this or its a guess..
Loved the video [which has more likes, comments and retweets on twitter than the pinned Heresy Video].


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Post by: lord_blackfang


Man I hope it's not Kill Team Rogue Nexus Catacombs 2 with just a board and imaginary walls again. Plastic room tiles please!


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Post by: Crispy78


Dudeface wrote:

What about this one?


It's a... trank!?


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Post by: Pacific


 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I think it's just that some of us remember all the years of GW cutting every cost and pinching every penny to prop up their profits that makes it hard to believe they would spend more than few dollars on an April Fool's joke.


You are right.. but this is countered against Squats being.. well, squatted upon, for practically the past 30 years.

I had heard that the senior design person within GW that absolutely hated the concept of Squats has left (I can't remember his name unfortunately), which at least allowed the Necromunda miniature to be released, but that came out alongside a Beastman too and there is no indication that either one would lead to a fully fledged force.


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Post by: deleted20220509


I have come to the conclusion that this is not a joke, in that this is a tease and take away.

This is definitely a joke that is based purely on the premise that one should be wary on a day like today.

And really, what better day to reintroduce the squats? its perfect i say, and even though i dont play 40k, i say bring em so my inner 17 year old rogue trader era self can revel in them again. i will buy them if they come.

we got plastic genestealer cults... and plastic sisters of battle. clearly anything is possible now.


.


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Post by: Danny76


Well that middle picture of Mantic FF looks really cool. With the servo harness type thing. That looks really detailed.

The tank makes a good Plague Burst Crawler if you spin it round, it has the right profile. Just with a little conversion. I’m working on doing that now.


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Post by: alphaecho



For some, Squats never went away. They just...converted.



Not the best image but I never imagined around the mid 90s that the Squat arms in my bits box would get an airing.

Aha, found an older wip photo.





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Post by: Theophony


Well I guess they could repurpose the KO from AOS for some of the models. I didn't like their look in fantasy, but it might work in 40K....if they got rid of the balloons.


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Post by: Togusa


Squats! YES!

Oh how long I've been waiting!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 tauist wrote:
1st of April = April, fools!


If this is a joke on their part, GW just lost a big customer in myself. Not funny, not appreciated.

Fortunately, I do not believe it's a joke.


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Post by: ccs


Until the day I can pre-order 40k squats I'll just assume this is an April Fools joke.


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Post by: frankelee


Making an April Fools' Day joke turn out to actually be real would be a great prank, but after looking at this thread it's clear the confusion of just understanding how April Fools' Day jokes work means it's probably a bad idea to try it.


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Post by: silverstu


Votann is text in the link to the video- Killteam Votann then in shipboard action? I think some of the details from the video might feature as scenery like the bulkhead doors and maybe even the dead ships captian in his chair.


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Post by: Dysartes


tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Makes it crueler as a joke, not better.


Cruel for some who can't get any jokes anyway, funny for normal people

Kind of worrying that this poster believes cruel humour is "normal" - while I lean towards this probably being an April Fool, I do agree with those who think it was done in poor taste, or is a sign of poor judgement on GW's part.


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Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Some Mantic models might be quite dodgy, but their Forge Fathers line is consistently very good.


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Post by: Pacific


Yes I agree.

Although what can be said for sure - this is generating a massive amount of coverage on social media and is going a lot for advertising/marketing (I suppose if you believe there is no such thing as bad publicity).


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Post by: Shadow Walker


I bet it is both true and false. True, because there will be Squats but false, because there will be no wh40k army of them. Probably some boardgame or Kill-team at best.


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Post by: zedmeister


Hoping we get a gang of them in Necromunda Ash Wastes, complete with bikes and trikes!


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Post by: Platuan4th


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Some Mantic models might be quite dodgy, but their Forge Fathers line is consistently very good.


They're mediocre at best, and they're basically the best looking Mantic line.


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Post by: Wha-Mu-077


...on the other hand, doesn't the guy in the video kind of look like this type of boot would fit him?

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[Thumb - leg.PNG]


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Post by: Shadow Walker


 zedmeister wrote:
Hoping we get a gang of them in Necromunda Ash Wastes, complete with bikes and trikes!

There is a Squat bounty hunter in game or am I mistaken? Anyway, that gang would be a very cool addition.


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Post by: Mentlegen324


 Dysartes wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Makes it crueler as a joke, not better.


Cruel for some who can't get any jokes anyway, funny for normal people

Kind of worrying that this poster believes cruel humour is "normal" - while I lean towards this probably being an April Fool, I do agree with those who think it was done in poor taste, or is a sign of poor judgement on GW's part.


I really don't get that sort of April Fools day joke of just a "Here's something you actually want presented in a totally reasonable way, too bad you aren't getting it because look at the date!" where it isn't funny in itself or something so absurd that it's showing someone to be gullible/a fool. The joke shouldn't just be down to what the date is.


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Post by: zedmeister


 Shadow Walker wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:
Hoping we get a gang of them in Necromunda Ash Wastes, complete with bikes and trikes!

There is a Squat bounty hunter in game or am I mistaken? Anyway, that gang would be a very cool addition.


There's two of them so far - ammo jack and the hired gun. Squat Biker Gang in the wastes please!


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Post by: Shadow Walker


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
...on the other hand, doesn't the guy in the video kind of look like this type of boot would fit him?
I think that leg looks more robotic than Squat but I can be wrong.


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Post by: ekwatts


How is this "cruel"? Nobody is losing anything. Oh, yes, I also lost my precious Squats back in the 90s too, but I've lived a fair bit of life since then, so the wound isn't exactly what you might call... "fresh".

Judging from some of the responses to this video I'm half expecting to read a headline sometime next week about a murderous rampage that was carried out by somebody who had reacted poorly to an animated video about a science fiction dwarf that didn't exist.


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Post by: oni


I think we're being trolled.

At best this is nothing more than a Blackstone Fortress expansion with one squat character.


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Post by: deleted20220509


Hey Ekwatts.

I have a free brand new still sealed copy of Shadow of Ruin battle box set I am going to give away, and I agree with what you said people needing to put on their big daddy pants because a joke is never cruel, so Im just gonna give it to you.

Just be sure to PM me an address where you'd like this big box of stuff sent to.

Oh wait... psych. Jay kay.


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Post by: yukishiro1


I don't think it's "cruel," but it is in questionable taste for a company that's done such a good job of wrecking its primary game over the last year. It feels like the sort of humor that works when everyone likes you, but that falls flat when you're in the doghouse.

The real ballsy end to the animation would be having a Harlequin Voidweaver pop up at the end and vaporize the whole space hulk, Squats and all, in one shot.


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Post by: ProtoClone


So, if this is a prank then it's two years in the making. From Psychic Awakening, Pariah. 2020.
https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/40k-pariah-squat-2020.jpg


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Post by: The Red Hobbit


 oni wrote:
I think we're being trolled.

At best this is nothing more than a Blackstone Fortress expansion with one squat character.


I would love another BSF expansion, Squats would go nicely with the ratlings. I would also love a reprint of Escalation.


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’m going potty trying to settle on whether or not this is a wind up.

Why it may be genuine
1. They teased the video yesterday
2. The rumours mentioned Squats and that source hasn’t been wrong yet
3. It does seem to match rumour engines
4. The wording of the article doesn’t strike me as nudge nudge wink wink
5. An animated trailer seems a lot of effort for a prank
6. What a way to get eyes on and people hype.

Why it may be an April Fools
1. It’s April Fools Day
2. They’ve made light of the Squat Clock in the past.
3. The animated trailer could be for another project, with just the last frames being added in for laffs
4. The post went up at an odd time, even allowing for the U.K.’s clocks changing last weekend. It went up at 11am, but we normally get the day’s first post at 12pm. Also, traditionally April Fools ends at 12pm.

Gah. Hopefully we get a 6pm “only kidding” or a further tease, like even a single honest to goodness model.


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Post by: Racerguy180


 ProtoClone wrote:
So, if this is a prank then it's two years in the making. From Psychic Awakening, Pariah. 2020.
https://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/40k-pariah-squat-2020.jpg

Squats were specifically mentioned on the last page of the 8th ed core rulebook.

I'm calling bs until I can order a mini from GW.


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Post by: Shakalooloo


The faction icon at the very end leads me to belive it's real. For a joke, I imagine it would just end just after the text.


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Post by: deleted20220509


#7: There is no better day to announce the return of the sqauts than april fools, since their entire status is now a verb for being disowned and forgotten ("squatted"), so it makes more sense to announce on this day than it would any other.


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


If it is real, I for one can’t wait to read their new background.

They really didn’t get a lot of love in Rogue Trader and Epic (but what was there was solid), so new stuff is going to be welcome, especially as it will need to explain where they’ve been.


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Post by: Theophony


If they are not the April Fool's Joke, Then where is GW's yearly April Fool's prank?


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Post by: deleted20220509


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If it is real, I for one can’t wait to read their new background.

They really didn’t get a lot of love in Rogue Trader and Epic (but what was there was solid), so new stuff is going to be welcome, especially as it will need to explain where they’ve been.


Im sure the background authors will write all of that off with hackneyed "we were here the entire time, you just had to look down longshanks!!" types of approach. You know, as they did in the video.

[edit] Though I do agree that I am actually more excited about how they are going to handle it, than if they are going to handle it. Squats are coming. Now its just time to break out the popcorn and judge the background authors as is our god given right as know it alls on the internet.


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Post by: silverstu


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If it is real, I for one can’t wait to read their new background.

They really didn’t get a lot of love in Rogue Trader and Epic (but what was there was solid), so new stuff is going to be welcome, especially as it will need to explain where they’ve been.


Me too! There was so little written about them around Rogue trader, where they've been and how/why they returned are very interesting.


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Post by: lord_blackfang


 Theophony wrote:
If they are not the April Fool's Joke, Then where is GW's yearly April Fool's prank?


It's still a prank to make an announcement on April Fools if the announcement is genuine if everyone thinks it's fake.


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Post by: Jadenim


 Theophony wrote:
If they are not the April Fool's Joke, Then where is GW's yearly April Fool's prank?


Have you seen the prices recently?


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Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m going potty trying to settle on whether or not this is a wind up.

4. The wording of the article doesn’t strike me as nudge nudge wink wink


But the article says "Tell us what you think you’ve just seen over on Facebook and Twitter right now, don’t even stop to check your calendar."


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


It also says “momentous tidings from the warp” . The video on YouTube’s thumbnail says “life signs detected”, which isn’t otherwise referenced in the video.

Warhammer 40,000 Will Never Be The Same Again.

The “don’t check your calendar” could be read either way.


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Post by: BrianDavion


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

2. They’ve made light of the Squat Clock in the past.
.


you mean the clock with plastic sisters (have) and a plastic thunderhawk (Have.. for IA)?


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Post by: Danny76


 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
...on the other hand, doesn't the guy in the video kind of look like this type of boot would fit him?
I think that leg looks more robotic than Squat but I can be wrong.


Definitely.
The ankle is like a ball attachment.
Though squat with a robot leg is possible. And the perfect leg to use for a Rumour Engine. As it’s hard to say what it is.


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Could be a leg from new Exo Armour.


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Post by: KillerAngel


 silverstu wrote:
Votann is text in the link to the video- Killteam Votann then in shipboard action? I think some of the details from the video might feature as scenery like the bulkhead doors and maybe even the dead ships captian in his chair.

Just out of curiosity, where did you see that? I don't see any link text that says Votann.

Quick search online and found an obscure reference (in a saga about the Orkneys) to it being a form of the Old Norse word vátr (adj. wet). I could definitely see it being a GW-ification (ie a made up name) reminiscent of Wotan -> Woden -> Odin.




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Post by: Racerguy180


Theophony wrote:If they are not the April Fool's Joke, Then where is GW's yearly April Fool's prank?


Danny76 wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
...on the other hand, doesn't the guy in the video kind of look like this type of boot would fit him?
I think that leg looks more robotic than Squat but I can be wrong.


Definitely.
The ankle is like a ball attachment.
Though squat with a robot leg is possible. And the perfect leg to use for a Rumour Engine. As it’s hard to say what it is.

I'm looking at the thunderer with the mechanical leg and could see a similarity in design(albeit less geared).
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Could be a leg from new Exo Armour.

That would be dope.


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Post by: Theophony


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m going potty trying to settle on whether or not this is a wind up.

4. The wording of the article doesn’t strike me as nudge nudge wink wink


But the article says "Tell us what you think you’ve just seen over on Facebook and Twitter right now, don’t even stop to check your calendar."


Thinking about it, I believe the don't check your calendar is in reference to the line "After a short absence". Meaning they don't want you to remember the last 30 years of them being relegated to the warp.

Perhaps Chaos breaking free from the eye of Terror and the storm that has rent the galaxy in half opened up a way for the Squats to get out again. Between the way time stands still in the warp an how long a Squat lives (Guessing as long as a dwarf), would the Squats really notice that anything has changed in the galaxy? Big marines have gotten bigger, Chaos still angsty, Eldar still a dying race, Orks still like to fight and the nuns still smell the same from their height .


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Post by: Daedalus81


A Kill Team would seem appropriate. A full army is probably too much to ask for.


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Post by: Mentlegen324


If this was just a joke, why would they have teased it the day before?


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Post by: Daedalus81


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
If this was just a joke, why would they have teased it the day before?


To make people question it. It's a multi-layered april fools - the best kind!


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Post by: Voss


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
If this was just a joke, why would they have teased it the day before?


Like most 'traditional' April Fools 'jokes' now, you've got to build up the flat out lies so they're more convincing.


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Post by: Mentlegen324


 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
If this was just a joke, why would they have teased it the day before?


To make people question it. It's a multi-layered april fools - the best kind!


So their April Fools joke...was to post the Joke before April fools Day?


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Post by: jullevi


This is pretty clever April Fools because regardless of the outcome it will have us fooled in one way or other. If Squats are indeed coming then April 1st would be the perfect time to announce them because we would assume that it's fake and thus be fooled.


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Post by: Racerguy180


Theophony wrote:
Spoiler:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m going potty trying to settle on whether or not this is a wind up.

4. The wording of the article doesn’t strike me as nudge nudge wink wink


But the article says "Tell us what you think you’ve just seen over on Facebook and Twitter right now, don’t even stop to check your calendar."


Thinking about it, I believe the don't check your calendar is in reference to the line "After a short absence". Meaning they don't want you to remember the last 30 years of them being relegated to the warp.

Perhaps Chaos breaking free from the eye of Terror and the storm that has rent the galaxy in half opened up a way for the Squats to get out again. Between the way time stands still in the warp an how long a Squat lives (Guessing as long as a dwarf), would the Squats really notice that anything has changed in the galaxy? Big marines have gotten bigger, Chaos still angsty, Eldar still a dying race, Orks still like to fight and the nuns still smell the same from their height .
I spit out my water when I read that. Exalt


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Post by: deleted20220509


jullevi wrote:
This is pretty clever April Fools because regardless of the outcome it will have us fooled in one way or other. If Squats are indeed coming then April 1st would be the perfect time to announce them because we would assume that it's fake and thus be fooled.


This guy gets it.


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Post by: N3p3nth3


This is like a cg trailer as long or longer than the new HH got. Faction logo. This would be an elaborate faction announcement, it would be insane as ”just a joke”.

So probably just a joke.


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Post by: Togusa


 ekwatts wrote:
How is this "cruel"? Nobody is losing anything. Oh, yes, I also lost my precious Squats back in the 90s too, but I've lived a fair bit of life since then, so the wound isn't exactly what you might call... "fresh".

Judging from some of the responses to this video I'm half expecting to read a headline sometime next week about a murderous rampage that was carried out by somebody who had reacted poorly to an animated video about a science fiction dwarf that didn't exist.


Some of us care about stuff like this. How would SoB players have reacted to this? How would Bretonnian Players react to something like this? Things mean things to some people, and no one gets to be the judge on what matters to another human being. It is cruel to torment people with promises of things they really want, regardless of plastic dwarven figures for a game, or a cure for a rare type of cancer.


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 Daedalus81 wrote:
A Kill Team would seem appropriate. A full army is probably too much to ask for.


I'll bite.

Why is a full codex of Squats too much to ask for?

Was Genestealer Cult too much to ask for? How about Sisters of Battle? Inquisition? Exodite Eldar?

All but one of those have been full armies people could play in the past. (I'm not experienced enough to know if Exodites were a thing outside text, someone can enlighten me on that if they wish.) Is it so silly to see that they can be again, especially when two of those are now fully flushed out in the game with loads of models and rules?


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Post by: deleted20220509


A kill team would make an excellent beginning though. Help gauge interest and do some engineering practice on modelling squat aesthetics on a sprue.

I feel thats what the SOB plastics were before their individual releases. Lots of stuff thrown together on singular sprues bu not quite legal for most things (but that SOB kit was actually pretty good for KT 18 teams, for the most part)


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Post by: Dysartes


Exodites had a unit option and maybe a character back in 2nd edition, but they were definitely limited.


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Post by: KidCthulhu


 Togusa wrote:
I'll bite.

Why is a full codex of Squats too much to ask for?

Was Genestealer Cult too much to ask for? How about Sisters of Battle? Inquisition? Exodite Eldar?

All but one of those have been full armies people could play in the past. (I'm not experienced enough to know if Exodites were a thing outside text, someone can enlighten me on that if they wish.) Is it so silly to see that they can be again, especially when two of those are now fully flushed out in the game with loads of models and rules?

I think a Codex at this point in time is too much to ask for. They usually will test the waters for non-Imperial armies with one unit first. Like how Harlequins were an Eldar unit when they got new metal models. Then they made the plastics, saw the demand, and then semi-fleshed out the line for a Codex.

Also, weren't the plastic GSC hybrids just in that Deathwatch game before getting an actual Codex? Or was that roughly the same time? I remember getting the Deathwatch guys before getting the Acolyte & Neophyte boxes. But since I was fleshing out my years-old GSC counts-as IG army at the time, I didn't get the Codex.

This is just my theory. I think if they go a KT or similae route and see a demand, a Codex will come.


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Post by: Mr Morden


Well if its a bad joke - someone will have to go on stage and slap the feth out of them.

I look forward to seeing what they do - they have brought back Squats for Necromunda and this seems a obvious continuation of this.

To be honest I would rather new (or revived races and factions) than crowbaring in new units to them - looking at rubbish like the Centurions, Dreadknights, Sisters Paragons, Tau Stormsurge are just not....good (IMO)



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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Dysartes wrote:
Exodites had a unit option and maybe a character back in 2nd edition, but they were definitely limited.


Bit of both. Exodite squads came from your Troops, but the squad leader came from Characters. And you couldn’t take the Character without the squad.


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Post by: Togusa


 KidCthulhu wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
I'll bite.

Why is a full codex of Squats too much to ask for?

Was Genestealer Cult too much to ask for? How about Sisters of Battle? Inquisition? Exodite Eldar?

All but one of those have been full armies people could play in the past. (I'm not experienced enough to know if Exodites were a thing outside text, someone can enlighten me on that if they wish.) Is it so silly to see that they can be again, especially when two of those are now fully flushed out in the game with loads of models and rules?

I think a Codex at this point in time is too much to ask for. They usually will test the waters for non-Imperial armies with one unit first. Like how Harlequins were an Eldar unit when they got new metal models. Then they made the plastics, saw the demand, and then semi-fleshed out the line for a Codex.

Also, weren't the plastic GSC hybrids just in that Deathwatch game before getting an actual Codex? Or was that roughly the same time? I remember getting the Deathwatch guys before getting the Acolyte & Neophyte boxes. But since I was fleshing out my years-old GSC counts-as IG army at the time, I didn't get the Codex.

This is just my theory. I think if they go a KT or similae route and see a demand, a Codex will come.


Hey I get that, it makes a lot of sense. I just feel like I've seen a lot of folks dismissing Squats because they feel they're too silly or some other such nonsense, when we're talking about a fiction universe with space orks, space elves and 10 foot tall human warriors.


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 Dysartes wrote:
Exodites had a unit option and maybe a character back in 2nd edition, but they were definitely limited.


yeah I wasn't sure about that one, I'm guessing that was a 90s thing? I'd not ever heard of Exodites until like 2020. I was really confused about the new animation called the Exodite too, was expecting Eldar, got Tau.


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Post by: No One Important


 Togusa wrote:
How would Bretonnian Players react to something like this?

Chivalrously, I would hope.


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Post by: Voss


 Togusa wrote:

Hey I get that, it makes a lot of sense. I just feel like I've seen a lot of folks dismissing Squats because they feel they're too silly or some other such nonsense, when we're talking about a fiction universe with space orks, space elves and 10 foot tall human warriors.


Unfortunately, Jervis and company did Squats a bad turn when they squatted them. They gave an official reason why: they thought the lore was dumb, and couldn't think of anything more interesting at the time. So they discontinued them. It wasn't sales, just a lack of ideas internally. And, over time, that lack of inspiration has translated into the idea that GW was justified in getting rid of them and shouldn't ever bring them back. And instead should do <insert random idea here>.


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Post by: lord_blackfang


Voss wrote:
Unfortunately, Jervis and company did Squats a bad turn when they squatted them. They gave an official reason why: they thought the lore was dumb, and couldn't think of anything more interesting at the time. So they discontinued them. It wasn't sales, just a lack of ideas internally.


I mean, feeling like you can't make a product good is a much better reason to discontinue it than most...


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Post by: Eumerin


 Togusa wrote:


yeah I wasn't sure about that one, I'm guessing that was a 90s thing? I'd not ever heard of Exodites until like 2020. I was really confused about the new animation called the Exodite too, was expecting Eldar, got Tau.


Exodites were the original lore reason for knights in Epic. The Eldar knights were Exodite war machines based on the machines they used to herd their dinosaurs, and fight off invaders. Human colonists ended up settling nearby, and copied the basic idea. AFAIK, the knights were the only Exodites to appear in Epic.


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Post by: Iracundus


There were completed Epic Eldar Exodites riding dinosaurs ready for release but they were never released. You can still search and find pre-release pictures of them.


So anyway...I see the Squat trailer. Is GW not going to do any April Fools release then?


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Post by: Tastyfish


I think it's real, but there will be no mention anywhere of Squats. This might be the Crew of the Mjolner, and they may be Dwardin of the Core Leagues, but Squats? Maybe a derogatory terms in the small fluff bit in the IG book.


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Post by: Iracundus


 Tastyfish wrote:
I think it's real, but there will be no mention anywhere of Squats. This might be the Crew of the Mjolner, and they may be Dwardin of the Core Leagues, but Squats? Maybe a derogatory terms in the small fluff bit in the IG book.


I would not object to a rebranding in name. AOS Kharadron Overlords already shows how the old Dwarf/Squat aesthetic might be done.


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Post by: Tastyfish


I'm all in for Mjolner's Shipbreakers, with a bunch of retcons that more or less sticks to the basics we know (including the fight against Tyranids) and has the survivors of the leagues now nomadic spacers rather than underground miners. Aliens powerlifters meets Alien Resurrections oddball crew for the Kill Team. Living ancestor in his old exoarmour perhaps.

Just as long as we still get the Demiurg for T'au...


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Post by: Sacredroach


The only thing keeping me thinking this is definitely an April Fool's Joke is the reference to "don't even check your calendar." Other than that, a rather expensive looking April Fools Joke.

And I can totally see them come back in a Kill Team format...at least for GW to judge interest.


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Post by: Iracundus


 Tastyfish wrote:
I'm all in for Mjolner's Shipbreakers, with a bunch of retcons that more or less sticks to the basics we know (including the fight against Tyranids) and has the survivors of the leagues now nomadic spacers rather than underground miners. Aliens powerlifters meets Alien Resurrections oddball crew for the Kill Team. Living ancestor in his old exoarmour perhaps.

Just as long as we still get the Demiurg for T'au...


I wouldn't mind if they were even rebranded as Demiurg. They were only mercenaries with the Tau, so they could still be their own independent faction if expanded.
There was a hint in one of the recent supplements about their return despite supposedly thought extinct.

I could see the following working to spread them round the galaxy in order to have battles:
Nomadic mercenary survivors living off their stronghold spaceships bearing a grudge against the Imperium for abandoning them in their hour of need when their homeworlds were attacked by the Tyranids. A few mining enclaves mostly on newly settled hidden inhospitable worlds. The mercenaries fighting other races to get resources directly or as mercenary payment to funnel back to their worlds, which are turned into fortresses.


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Post by: Gimgamgoo


I'm thinking it's meant to be a joke.

BUT, I can see GW following the hype and excitement it creates to see the popularity of squats, and using them as a starter force for 10th edition.


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Post by: Da Butcha


 zedmeister wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:
Hoping we get a gang of them in Necromunda Ash Wastes, complete with bikes and trikes!

There is a Squat bounty hunter in game or am I mistaken? Anyway, that gang would be a very cool addition.


There's two of them so far - ammo jack and the hired gun. Squat Biker Gang in the wastes please!


Two models, and the Venator (Bounty Hunter) list just happens to let you take an entire crew of people who just happen to have Move 3, Strength 3, Toughness 4, lower initiative, and good Intelligence rolls.

Then you hop over to Hardcore Minis and buy all the incredibly cool Space Dwarf models you want!

I've already ran a Necromunda Squat Brotherhood as Venators, and despite my pokey movement, a gang with bolters on the basic gangers can be nasty.


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Post by: Olthannon


Even if it is total bollocks, it got a lot of people talking and more importantly the animation is rad as hell. I love the look of the captain impaled on his sword and the lighting. Extremely cool.

You know someone further up the thread said maybe the squat bit was just tacked onto some other animation. And it sort of did look a bit like that. Hopefully the first bit of animation is for something cool.

I guess we have to wait until later today to find out if it was real..


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


It’s still the Big Article on WarCom’s front page…


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Post by: Blastum


Does the bearded logo at the end tip us off to anything?


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Post by: N3p3nth3


I mean, April fools’ wise it does look like it’s teasing Space Hulk or Battlefleet Gothic and then plot twists into Squats…


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Post by: silverstu


 Blastum wrote:
Does the bearded logo at the end tip us off to anything?


Looks like a faction icon like the other 40k factions have. If it was a joke there would have been more of a nod and wink with the artwork- they would have used old designs. New squat design and a modern faction icon to sit with the rest of the 40k range, backed up by their mention in the 100% rumour list from last year. They are coming, probably as a killteam first.
I reckon we will see more next week.


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Post by: Strg Alt


 Blastum wrote:
Does the bearded logo at the end tip us off to anything?


Yes, the realization how to pull off a good prank. Without the logo it would have looked like half-assed work.


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Post by: kodos


 Blastum wrote:
Does the bearded logo at the end tip us off to anything?
yeah, a Transformer crossover coming


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Post by: silverstu


 Strg Alt wrote:
 Blastum wrote:
Does the bearded logo at the end tip us off to anything?


Yes, the realization how to pull off a good prank. Without the logo it would have looked like half-assed work.


Possibly - but the etiquette around April fool "pranks" is you fess up - which they haven't yet.


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Post by: pogey


 Tastyfish wrote:
I'm all in for Mjolner's Shipbreakers, with a bunch of retcons that more or less sticks to the basics we know (including the fight against Tyranids) and has the survivors of the leagues now nomadic spacers rather than underground miners. Aliens powerlifters meets Alien Resurrections oddball crew for the Kill Team. Living ancestor in his old exoarmour perhaps.

Just as long as we still get the Demiurg for T'au...


the tyranids eating them was just an offhand comment, this is the quote:
"Would you believe they were all eaten by the Tyranid invasion? Or, due to the Squats biker life style, everyone of them was arrested for disturbing the peace and sacrificed to the Emperor. Where do you think they get all of those souls anyway? All kidding aside, it doesn't seem likely the Squats will ever again see the light of day. When they were out they never seemed very popular, showed up at our stores, or tournaments, and didn't sell on top of all that. Their look was really outdated compared to the hundreds of other great Warhammer 40,000 models. Don't send us hate mail, it's just the cold hard facts of the 41st Millennium."
- unnamed GW employee

Unless it has been written into the canon further?