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World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 13:48:54


Post by: Garrac




So, I thought it was apropiate to finally create a topic about the upcoming World Eaters codex, army and miniatures. Ill try to get this post renewed with all the official news at least

Lets remember they were oficially anounced last May during Warhammer Fest

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/04/blood-skulls-and-butchers-nails-the-world-eaters-are-getting-their-own-codex/


NEW LEAK! Angron, some zerkers and other miniatures in this edition of camera potato
Spoiler:


The (confirmed) most important leak of the new wave of miniatures
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Angron's new miniature oficially confirmed by WarCom
Spoiler:


New squad od berserkers revealed!
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Lord Invocatus revealed


Leaks of the model range
Spoiler:


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 14:56:50


Post by: ArcaneHorror


With the awesome Khorngor Blood Bowl models being released, I really hope that they are in the World Eaters codex.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 15:22:55


Post by: Garrac


 ArcaneHorror wrote:
With the awesome Khorngor Blood Bowl models being released, I really hope that they are in the World Eaters codex.


It's perfect for the "cultist dedicated", occupying the slot of poxwalkers and tzaangors (I really doubt GW releasing a whole army with just zerkers and classic cultists as Troops)

That’s not all – the codex will contain old favourites, dark legends, and some things that you’ve never seen before…


I would expect mostly:
-New zerkers (confirmed)
-Angron
-Khorne terminators
-Khornegors
-Generic zerker Lord

I suppose there are remaining new options for Fast Attack and Heavy Support to complete the codex. Don't know if their lore offers more generic characters


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 15:31:16


Post by: Togusa


Garrac wrote:
 ArcaneHorror wrote:
With the awesome Khorngor Blood Bowl models being released, I really hope that they are in the World Eaters codex.


It's perfect for the "cultist dedicated", occupying the slot of poxwalkers and tzaangors (I really doubt GW releasing a whole army with just zerkers and classic cultists as Troops)

That’s not all – the codex will contain old favourites, dark legends, and some things that you’ve never seen before…


I would expect mostly:
-New zerkers (confirmed)
-Angron
-Khorne terminators
-Khornegors
-Generic zerker Lord

I suppose there are remaining new options for Fast Attack and Heavy Support to complete the codex. Don't know if their lore offers more generic characters


World Eaters would be a good point to release generic bikers. A new Defiler model for HS would be good too.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 17:14:52


Post by: Sgt. Cortez


A plastic Blood Slaughterer would be cool, but from what we've seen in the past GW likes to make its own stuff instead of converting FW ideas. A Daemon engine is a given either way, in addition to the Maulerfiend being in that Codex probably.
Some people will hate it but Berzerkers on juggernauts would be awesome (they already look great in AoS, slap some backpack on them and you're fine ) .


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 19:22:58


Post by: Platuan4th


Sgt. Cortez wrote:
A plastic Blood Slaughterer would be cool, but from what we've seen in the past GW likes to make its own stuff instead of converting FW ideas. .


First, plastic Valkyrie says hi. Second, Blood Slaughterers have existed since Rogue Trader, they're not a "FW idea".



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 20:34:29


Post by: Garrac


Btw isn't it weird that we don't have any leaks yet? I expected at this point the return of the Camera-Potato

I guess this means the codex'll release on 2023...


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 20:54:14


Post by: Togusa


Garrac wrote:
Btw isn't it weird that we don't have any leaks yet? I expected at this point the return of the Camera-Potato

I guess this means the codex'll release on 2023...


From the musings of the net and people who've claimed to work for GW recently, apparently the internal crackdowns on leaks have been most....harsh. Sounds like they put Perturabo and Kurze in charge of handling spies.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 22:35:14


Post by: Undead_Love-Machine


 Platuan4th wrote:
Sgt. Cortez wrote:
A plastic Blood Slaughterer would be cool, but from what we've seen in the past GW likes to make its own stuff instead of converting FW ideas. .


First, plastic Valkyrie says hi. Second, Blood Slaughterers have existed since Rogue Trader, they're not a "FW idea".




...and the Tyranid Trygon, the Tau Piranha, the Spartan, the Contemptor, the Deimos Rhino...I'm sure there's more, that's just the first few to come to mind.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 22:47:07


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Here's hoping that Khorne gets some nuance back, though I don't have the expectation of such. Have there been any publications this century where Khorne hasn't been one-dimensional?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 23:41:15


Post by: warboss


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Here's hoping that Khorne gets some nuance back, though I don't have the expectation of such. Have there been any publications this century where Khorne hasn't been one-dimensional?


Rules? No idea. There was a short snippet in the early Horus Heresy books of a human empire that utilized Chaos powers during war (hinted IIRC as Khorne) where they were hesitant to talk to Horus due to his Warmaster title as they assumed he was fully in the thrall of the chaos powers. I think that was shortly before he was poisoned by the dagger.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/05 23:49:59


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Here's hoping that Khorne gets some nuance back, though I don't have the expectation of such. Have there been any publications this century where Khorne hasn't been one-dimensional?
I have a sinking feeling that World Eaters will be the Space Wolves on the Traitor Legions, forever destined to be Flanderised out the wazoor with an devolution into nothing but a even bloodier bloody blood-soaked bloodletting blood pact of blood!!!



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 01:24:38


Post by: John D Law


I know it’s never happening but I’d love the return of Khorne’s “real” champion. DOOMBREED! Ah maybe with daemons someday :(


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 01:39:17


Post by: Platuan4th


Wasn't Doombreed mentioned in one of the AoS books relatively recently?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 03:09:47


Post by: Da Butcha


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Here's hoping that Khorne gets some nuance back, though I don't have the expectation of such. Have there been any publications this century where Khorne hasn't been one-dimensional?
I have a sinking feeling that World Eaters will be the Space Wolves on the Traitor Legions, forever destined to be Flanderised out the wazoor with an devolution into nothing but a even bloodier bloody blood-soaked bloodletting blood pact of blood!!!



It's really uncanny. Kharn is probably not a fan-favorite in the Horus Heresy series, but he's interestingly written and pretty awesome even when he shows up in other books. The other World Eaters that have shown up (such as the Loyalist one that works for Malcador) are all pretty darn cool.

Yet all we get in 40K is Murder McMurderface.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 03:37:25


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Da Butcha wrote:
Yet all we get in 40K is Murder McMurderface.
I would hope so! He'd be a great counter to Murderfang.


I still can't believe that model exists.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 04:03:38


Post by: ArcaneHorror


Da Butcha wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Here's hoping that Khorne gets some nuance back, though I don't have the expectation of such. Have there been any publications this century where Khorne hasn't been one-dimensional?
I have a sinking feeling that World Eaters will be the Space Wolves on the Traitor Legions, forever destined to be Flanderised out the wazoor with an devolution into nothing but a even bloodier bloody blood-soaked bloodletting blood pact of blood!!!



It's really uncanny. Kharn is probably not a fan-favorite in the Horus Heresy series, but he's interestingly written and pretty awesome even when he shows up in other books. The other World Eaters that have shown up (such as the Loyalist one that works for Malcador) are all pretty darn cool.

Yet all we get in 40K is Murder McMurderface.


Not always. He's written quite well in Eater of Worlds and The Red Path.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 04:30:53


Post by: Sgt. Cortez


DG has had a similar fate already though. There's very little of their tragedy or agony and despair left when you read their Codex, it's much more: Praise the poo, look how my guts are hanging out, that's funny, eh?
They're gruesome monsters you don't need to hesitate to kill because they're evil and nothing more, which is sad, really. Lords of Silence luckily brought a little nuance back.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 04:47:43


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Sgt. Cortez wrote:
DG has had a similar fate already though. There's very little of their tragedy or agony and despair left when you read their Codex, it's much more: Praise the poo, look how my guts are hanging out, that's funny, eh?
They're gruesome monsters you don't need to hesitate to kill because they're evil and nothing more, which is sad, really. Lords of Silence luckily brought a little nuance back.
That is very recent; the 9th ed codex has massively slimmed down fluff sections. The 8th ed codex still covered that, and Nurgle definitely has proper nuance on the AoS side.


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 Platuan4th wrote:
Wasn't Doombreed mentioned in one of the AoS books relatively recently?
Yes, he is tied to the Stormcast character Yndrasta (angelic figure on the front of the core rulebook); in her mortal life she led and army opposing Chaos until finally defeated by Doombreed. During this defeat she was dueling Doombreed and, realizing she was going to lose, opted to call down lightning on them both. Sigmar thought that was pretty cool and took her up to be reforged instead of letting her die. This event happened centuries before the events of the AoS game but it is a reference that only cropped up as of the 3rd edition launch. If they had been planning a Doombreed model the timing would line up but it is pretty circumstantial.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Da Butcha wrote:
Yet all we get in 40K is Murder McMurderface.
I would hope so! He'd be a great counter to Murderfang.


I still can't believe that model exists.
Is that the very one found upon the planet Omnicide? Murderfang, bestowed with his special ability Murderlust, driving him to murder enemies with his weapons; the Murderclaws?

...Because one need not travel beyond the worship of Khorne to find true gems! Imagine Murderfang squaring off against a mighty Khorgorath:
Spoiler:


And for a paltry 50 AUD you could have your very own Skarr Bloodwrath!
Spoiler:


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 07:33:52


Post by: Garrac


Reading the lore from the White Dwarf: they insist a lot in a new character notseen before in any book that I know of: Berserker surgeons.8in page 81) Looks like they are techmarines and apotecaries who have specialized on the technology of the Nails, and create new zerkers, be it extracting the genetic seed or implanting the Nails on new recruits. One even appears on the tale of Kharn.

That is very interesting because it explains perfectly how the World Eaters have survived ten milenia. I suppose they would be added on the new codex on HQ or Elite slots

Seeing that there's also a strat for the Red Butchers (WE termies), I would expect them too on the new codex


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 07:40:26


Post by: blood reaper


Garrac wrote:
Reading the lore from the White Dwarf: they insist a lot in a new character notseen before in any book that I know of: Berserker surgeons.8in page 81) Looks like they are techmarines and apotecaries who have specialized on the technology of the Nails, and create new zerkers, be it extracting the genetic seed or implanting the Nails on new recruits. One even appears on the tale of Kharn.

That is very interesting because it explains perfectly how the World Eaters have survived ten milenia. I suppose they would be added on the new codex on HQ or Elite slots

Seeing that there's also a strat for the Red Butchers (WE termies), I would expect them too on the new codex


Beserker Surgeons have been mentioned in the lore since 4th edition at the latest. I would hope to see figures for them.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 07:52:51


Post by: BrianDavion


thats honestly not new, thats been around awhile.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 08:13:10


Post by: Agamemnon2


 NinthMusketeer wrote:

...Because one need not travel beyond the worship of Khorne to find true gems! Imagine Murderfang squaring off against a mighty Khorgorath:
Spoiler:


Ugh, I really hate this school of design for Chaos monsters, where entire skulls are just embedded whole in their (presumably soft and malleable) flesh, but everything is painted to be super clean and distinct. It's like the creature is afflicted with Skullpox.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 08:48:29


Post by: blood reaper


 Agamemnon2 wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:

...Because one need not travel beyond the worship of Khorne to find true gems! Imagine Murderfang squaring off against a mighty Khorgorath:
Spoiler:


Ugh, I really hate this school of design for Chaos monsters, where entire skulls are just embedded whole in their (presumably soft and malleable) flesh, but everything is painted to be super clean and distinct. It's like the creature is afflicted with Skullpox.


Skullpox HAS to be a thing in the lore.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 09:04:20


Post by: Albertorius


Skull pimples, more like.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 09:10:40


Post by: Fayric


Thread title should say: "World Eaters Whishlist and and casual speculation", because thats what it will for about 30 pages untill some snippet of actual rumor appear (and even then it will be 90% musings about some detail of lore thet might get attention).

Not that Im complaing, its always good fun as we wait.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 09:22:10


Post by: cuda1179


I'd like to see the return of Juggernauts, both as a Character mount and as a unit.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 11:23:03


Post by: Nicorex


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Here's hoping that Khorne gets some nuance back, though I don't have the expectation of such. Have there been any publications this century where Khorne hasn't been one-dimensional?
I have a sinking feeling that World Eaters will be the Space Wolves on the Traitor Legions, forever destined to be Flanderised out the wazoor with an devolution into nothing but a even bloodier bloody blood-soaked bloodletting blood pact of blood!!!


And they wont even get the decent latiny blood names, since those will all go to the Blood Angels".


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 19:18:52


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 cuda1179 wrote:
I'd like to see the return of Juggernauts, both as a Character mount and as a unit.
Skullcrushers but with CSM riders would be pretty dam badass.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 22:23:04


Post by: Strg Alt


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Da Butcha wrote:
Yet all we get in 40K is Murder McMurderface.
I would hope so! He'd be a great counter to Murderfang.


I still can't believe that model exists.


It´s ugly as sin. Great to accompany the likes of Mutilators.


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Garrac wrote:
Reading the lore from the White Dwarf: they insist a lot in a new character notseen before in any book that I know of: Berserker surgeons.8in page 81) Looks like they are techmarines and apotecaries who have specialized on the technology of the Nails, and create new zerkers, be it extracting the genetic seed or implanting the Nails on new recruits. One even appears on the tale of Kharn.

That is very interesting because it explains perfectly how the World Eaters have survived ten milenia. I suppose they would be added on the new codex on HQ or Elite slots

Seeing that there's also a strat for the Red Butchers (WE termies), I would expect them too on the new codex


How can they act as techmarines or apothecaries when they suffer from the nails themselves?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/06 22:38:14


Post by: alextroy


Because the nails want to be spread


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 01:15:50


Post by: Boosykes


In Fabius Bile books one serves him and uses a cocktail of drugs to keep it in check.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 04:44:23


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 alextroy wrote:
Because the nails want to be spread
That... would actually be pretty cool, IMO.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 06:17:06


Post by: Agamemnon2


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 cuda1179 wrote:
I'd like to see the return of Juggernauts, both as a Character mount and as a unit.
Skullcrushers but with CSM riders would be pretty dam badass.


Magmathrax deservers to be legal once again.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 08:07:32


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


Let's not start picking at threads... As long as they have cool models!


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 08:30:07


Post by: Garrac


 blood reaper wrote:


Beserker Surgeons have been mentioned in the lore since 4th edition at the latest. I would hope to see figures for them.


Oh, I didn't know that! Where were they first mentioned?

 Strg Alt wrote:

How can they act as techmarines or apothecaries when they suffer from the nails themselves?


They are but a mix of both of them, as the nails are half technology, half biology

As Betrayer stated, the nails are impossible to remove whitout damaging the host, but looks like they are relatively easy to duplicate. As it benefits Khorne and can produce more potential skulls for the skulls throne, is an acceptable tactic and I supose zerker-surgeons are allowed to retain certain inteligence (but, if you read the recent Kharn tale from the WD you'll realize GW is approaching the WE as marines that still can work, talk and plan strategies, as simple as they can be)


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 09:19:06


Post by: Dysartes


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
...Because one need not travel beyond the worship of Khorne to find true gems! Imagine Murderfang squaring off against a mighty Khorgorath:
Spoiler:

I wouldn't be against that being in the WE line-up, alongside the Slaughterbrute


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 09:58:17


Post by: Agamemnon2


That seems pretty plausible to me, GW likes having demonic models do double-duty, and these Chaos monsters could be explained as fighting beasts from the mortal combat arenas of whatever incarnadine world Berzerkers hail from.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 10:04:25


Post by: Dysartes


If nothing else, the Khorgorath looks to be the right sort of size and pose to work well as a base for a fleshier WE Hellbrute.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 10:18:58


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Only exists as part of a multi-sprue at the moment so I wouldn't have my fingers crossed.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 11:37:05


Post by: Garrac


From B&Ch



Looks like maybe we'll get the codex this year! (A very big grain of salt is required here)


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 13:00:28


Post by: Dysartes


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Only exists as part of a multi-sprue at the moment so I wouldn't have my fingers crossed.

Ah, that's a shame - wondered why he was only in a SC box atm.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 13:13:31


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Garrac wrote:
From B&Ch



Looks like maybe we'll get the codex this year! (A very big grain of salt is required here)
Hm, a mix of the very predictable and not. Unfortunately a combination that matches GW releases and false rumormongers both, though this one feels true. Can't put a finger on it though, and certainly with the world as it is plans can change either way.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 13:14:47


Post by: chaos0xomega


Garrac wrote:
As Betrayer stated, the nails are impossible to remove whitout damaging the host, but looks like they are relatively easy to duplicate. As it benefits Khorne and can produce more potential skulls for the skulls throne, is an acceptable tactic and I supose zerker-surgeons are allowed to retain certain inteligence (but, if you read the recent Kharn tale from the WD you'll realize GW is approaching the WE as marines that still can work, talk and plan strategies, as simple as they can be)


It needs to be mentioned that the nails described in Betrayer are the nails that Angron has which are Nucerian archeotech. They were *impossible* to duplicate and behave differently from the Nails that the rest of the World Eaters legion has, which are an entirely different and simpler technology that produces similar but less extreme results to the nails Angron had.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 15:03:01


Post by: Voss


Garrac wrote:
From B&Ch
..
Looks like maybe we'll get the codex this year! (A very big grain of salt is required here)


Not really. The preview show article heavily implied (to just short of stating outright) a matter of months. It was worded much the same way as the initial Votann article.
I'm actually less convinced guard is coming between the two, but sure, that might happen.


Old genestealers with an upgrade sprue as half the KT release sounds bad. Or simply disappointing.
And annoying for invalidating the codex datasheet so soon.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 15:13:37


Post by: Sasori


I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 15:17:49


Post by: Voss


 Sasori wrote:
I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.


GW struggles with what to do with some armies, and as daemons are fundamentally broken (with how they interact with detachments and army building) its no surprise that they're at the back. The leak rumors for daemons rather reinforce this idea. That's a lot of stray spaghetti stuck to the walls.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 15:34:56


Post by: Daedalus81


 Sasori wrote:
I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.


Daemons had a 47% WR this past weekend and are certainly not bottom barrel.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 15:48:05


Post by: ArcaneHorror


 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.


Daemons had a 47% WR this past weekend and are certainly not bottom barrel.


Do you know specifically which god(s) we're represented?

Something of note, due to there not being any Renegade rules in the CSM codex, some Crimson Slaughter fans are thinking of using the upcoming World Eaters codex to play their armies.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 16:52:26


Post by: tneva82


 Dysartes wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
...Because one need not travel beyond the worship of Khorne to find true gems! Imagine Murderfang squaring off against a mighty Khorgorath:
Spoiler:

I wouldn't be against that being in the WE line-up, alongside the Slaughterbrute


Just one problem. It's only available in sprue with aos khorne infantry.



Grumble grumble. Want like 8. But 8 sc is lot.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 21:17:07


Post by: Hecaton


Why do they think they need 10th edition? Just patch the morale phase and the codexes. Release another limited box that's blood angels vs. Nids if you want.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 21:29:22


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


Hecaton wrote:
Why do they think they need 10th edition? Just patch the morale phase and the codexes. Release another limited box that's blood angels vs. Nids if you want.


I'm rapidly approaching the 'screw new editions' camp. With all the dataslates and quarterly updates, they're about this close to living rulebook.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 22:17:56


Post by: Andykp


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 cuda1179 wrote:
I'd like to see the return of Juggernauts, both as a Character mount and as a unit.
Skullcrushers but with CSM riders would be pretty dam badass.


I made some a while ago. Love them.

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World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 22:22:10


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.


Daemons had a 47% WR this past weekend and are certainly not bottom barrel.
Daemons had a 47% WR [with specific army lists] this past weekend [at tournaments] and are certainly not bottom barrel [with a handful of lists, during one weekend, at tournaments which reported stats, in a manner giving immense skew towards 50%].


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 23:03:50


Post by: Boosykes


 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That seems pretty plausible to me, GW likes having demonic models do double-duty, and these Chaos monsters could be explained as fighting beasts from the mortal combat arenas of whatever incarnadine world Berzerkers hail from.

I would rather they keep the. Odels seperatfrom age of sigmar and 40k they look daft mutilith Vortex beast really has nothing to do with 40k.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/07 23:10:50


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
Daemons had a 47% WR this past weekend and are certainly not bottom barrel.
Daemons had a 47% WR [with specific army lists] this past weekend [at tournaments] and are certainly not bottom barrel [with a handful of lists, during one weekend, at tournaments which reported stats, in a manner giving immense skew towards 50%].
Nah man, it's cool. D says they're doing well at tournaments, and as that's literally the only measure we have for anything related to 40k (and certainly the only one that matters!), I guess this means Daemons are A-OK!



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 03:08:59


Post by: Darnok


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Only exists as part of a multi-sprue at the moment so I wouldn't have my fingers crossed.

It would be a great chance to change this though. Release a multipart Khorgorath and sell it to 40K and AoS players alike, win-win really.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 05:47:33


Post by: Agamemnon2


Boosykes wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That seems pretty plausible to me, GW likes having demonic models do double-duty, and these Chaos monsters could be explained as fighting beasts from the mortal combat arenas of whatever incarnadine world Berzerkers hail from.

I would rather they keep the. Odels seperatfrom age of sigmar and 40k they look daft mutilith Vortex beast really has nothing to do with 40k.

Well, that ship is already sailed, didn't they add the MVB to the Thousand Sons book a few years back?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 06:07:17


Post by: H.B.M.C.


And it'd be great to have the other half of that kit - the Slaughterbrute - as part of the WE book.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 06:36:10


Post by: Dysartes


 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Boosykes wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That seems pretty plausible to me, GW likes having demonic models do double-duty, and these Chaos monsters could be explained as fighting beasts from the mortal combat arenas of whatever incarnadine world Berzerkers hail from.

I would rather they keep the. Odels seperatfrom age of sigmar and 40k they look daft mutilith Vortex beast really has nothing to do with 40k.

Well, that ship is already sailed, didn't they add the MVB to the Thousand Sons book a few years back?

Not to mention the Tzaangors (though with an add-on sprue) as part of the same launch.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 07:19:57


Post by: tneva82


Hecaton wrote:
Why do they think they need 10th edition? Just patch the morale phase and the codexes. Release another limited box that's blood angels vs. Nids if you want.


New edition=print money button.

Do you need money? Why you think gw refuses getting as much money as they can?

2nd, 3rd, 8th. Only 40k editions that weren't just some batches in effect.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 08:56:11


Post by: jullevi


The only thing interesting about new edition is to find out what makes it the best edition ever this time.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 09:30:58


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Oh boys!




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Looks to be Angry Ron, New Bezerkers, possibly a new Cultist unit right up the back.

Also seemingly new Chadians and possibly a new IG Tank.

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World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 09:43:12


Post by: blood reaper


Looks like there's some melee cultists in the background as well.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 09:49:15


Post by: Arbitrator


So does this go to confirm the whole "we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense and the "we made Sisters because of the community poll!" was marketing tripe and a happy coincidence?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 09:49:58


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Erm…..no?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 09:50:14


Post by: blood reaper


 Arbitrator wrote:
So does this go to confirm the whole "we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense and the "we made Sisters because of the community poll!" was marketing tripe and a happy coincidence?


I mean yeah 100% these projects are done over the course of years - if this was really super early in development we'd be seeing them in three or four years time.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 09:51:15


Post by: jullevi


Angry Ron is not as cool as Ka'Bandha but at least he is plastic. Canadians look good from what I can see.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 09:51:34


Post by: techsoldaten


 Arbitrator wrote:
So does this go to confirm the whole "we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense and the "we made Sisters because of the community poll!" was marketing tripe and a happy coincidence?

Yes.

Have never known GW to talk about models / rules they have not made.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 09:58:02


Post by: BrianDavion


 Arbitrator wrote:
So does this go to confirm the whole "we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense and the "we made Sisters because of the community poll!" was marketing tripe and a happy coincidence?



where does that come from with the fact that world eaters are getting new stuff? seriously how does that tie to sisters of battle at all?




World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:02:19


Post by: Selfcontrol


Years ago (3-4 years I think), there was an interview with John Blanche on Warhammer Community. At the end of the interview, he was asked which Traitor Legion was his favourite and he said it was the World Eaters.

Then, the interviewer said "If only we had models coming for them" before looking straight at the camera with a smile.

Of course the models are ready.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:02:21


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


BrianDavion wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
So does this go to confirm the whole "we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense and the "we made Sisters because of the community poll!" was marketing tripe and a happy coincidence?



where does that come from with the fact that world eaters are getting new stuff? seriously how does that tie to sisters of battle at all?



The fact Sisters went through the exact same entire song and dance of "Uhhh guys we're totally in early work in progress" as the World Eaters?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:12:01


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Pretty sure they just said they were working on World Eaters? Hence they wouldn’t be in the main Codex.

But otherwise solid, solid Dakka. Show a pic of stuff people have been wanting for years (new Bezerkers, and Angron), and shift dem goal posts to get a quick whine in.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:13:22


Post by: Platuan4th


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pretty sure they just said they were working on World Eaters? Hence they wouldn’t be in the main Codex.

But otherwise solid, solid Dakka. Show a pic of stuff people have been wanting for years (new Bezerkers, and Angron), and shift dem goal posts to get a quick whine in.


They mentioned in the streams where they showed stuff off that the reason we were only getting concept art for chain axes and artwork was because of how early in development the army was, but go off I guess.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:14:04


Post by: Chikout


I thought it was common knowledge that almost all minis are finished 2 years before release.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:14:38


Post by: tneva82


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
So does this go to confirm the whole "we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense and the "we made Sisters because of the community poll!" was marketing tripe and a happy coincidence?



where does that come from with the fact that world eaters are getting new stuff? seriously how does that tie to sisters of battle at all?



The fact Sisters went through the exact same entire song and dance of "Uhhh guys we're totally in early work in progress" as the World Eaters?


Well sisters did take good 1.5 year from first preview to launch box(and then few months more for actual launch) so if WE follows same pattern expect them november 2023.

If they come sooner then no they aren't comparable cases at all.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:14:44


Post by: blood reaper


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


But otherwise solid, solid Dakka. Show a pic of stuff people have been wanting for years (new Bezerkers, and Angron), and shift dem goal posts to get a quick whine in.


I don't think you know what 'shifting goal posts' actually means.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:14:55


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


That’s not my recollection, but open to being wrong.

Either way? Get stuff earlier than expected.

Bitch piss and whine about it.

Profit?



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:17:29


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s not my recollection, but open to being wrong.

Either way? Get stuff earlier than expected.

Bitch piss and whine about it.

Profit?



This doesn't mean we're getting stuff earlier than expected, if it goes the same as Sister's release, this means they already have everything finished and completely ready for release, but are going to hog it for a year or so while pretending they're still totally working on it.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:17:48


Post by: Darnok


 Arbitrator wrote:
So does this go to confirm the whole "we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense and the "we made Sisters because of the community poll!" was marketing tripe and a happy coincidence?

Nobody ever said the WE were "super early in development". Sharing some renders of chainaxes can be interpreted as WIP... that does not mean it had to be done recently.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:18:49


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 blood reaper wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


But otherwise solid, solid Dakka. Show a pic of stuff people have been wanting for years (new Bezerkers, and Angron), and shift dem goal posts to get a quick whine in.


I don't think you know what 'shifting goal posts' actually means.


Community wants updated Bezerkers. Has done for a long while.

GW makes Bezerkers.

Community - not that soon reeeeeeeeee.

The reeeeeeee is the audible sound of the goal posts being shifted, purely for the sake of something, anything to whine about.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:19:36


Post by: blood reaper


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

That’s not my recollection, but open to being wrong.

Either way? Get stuff earlier than expected.

Bitch piss and whine about it.

Profit?


It's very funny that people who complain about 'whining' so much (which was like, two comments by people saying 'I guess it's not as early as in development as GW claimed') fall into these bizarre, caustic rants. The amount of seethe on the part of some people on this site is completely unreal and totally disproportionate.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 blood reaper wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


But otherwise solid, solid Dakka. Show a pic of stuff people have been wanting for years (new Bezerkers, and Angron), and shift dem goal posts to get a quick whine in.


I don't think you know what 'shifting goal posts' actually means.


Community wants updated Bezerkers. Has done for a long while.

GW makes Bezerkers.

Community - not that soon reeeeeeeeee.

The reeeeeeee is the audible sound of the goal posts being shifted, purely for the sake of something, anything to whine about.


That's uh, NOT what people were posting.

People are not complaining it's a bad thing that they are coming out lol people are saying "I guess GW wasn't being honest or frank about development time".

Why are you people like this? The positivity cult here is insane. Any question or doubt of anything is taken as a desire to complain (incidentally, you are now fixating on 'complaining about the complainers).


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:25:32


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Well. Given we can prove anything with facts?

Warhammer Community post wrote: The new codex for the XII Legion is still a little way off – but the Warhammer Studio are hard at work in Khorne’s sweltering hell-forges, and we couldn’t be more excited. In the meantime, those of you who already have World Eaters armies can keep taking heads – we’ll soon be publishing an Index Hereticus of updated rules in White Dwarf, including datasheets for Khârn and the Berzerkers, to use with the new Codex: Chaos Space Marines.


Show me, precisely where, that is saying they’ve only just started working on them?

Not enough evidence people are talking utter, utter mince for the sake of something to whine about?

Same article wrote: Among the new models arriving with the codex are – of course – updated Khorne Berzerkers! The current miniatures have served the Lord of War for decades, claimed plenty of skulls and spilt their share of blood, and now it’s time for them to return to the Brass Citadel and put their feet up.* But what will the new miniatures look like? We managed to twist a few arms in the studio for an exclusive first look at something rather important…


Let’s carry on, shall we?

yep, same article. Funny what you can find when you bother to check and don’t just make stuff up wrote: Khorne Berzerkers can’t go anywhere without their roaring chainaxes, and they’ll be using these heinous hatchets to chop their way through everything the 41st Millennium has to offer.

That’s not all – the codex will contain old favourites, dark legends, and some things that you’ve never seen before… We’ll be bringing you more updates on Codex: World Eaters and these murderous new miniatures over the next few months on Warhammer Community – so you can follow the Eightfold Path right up to release.


Now, that article is dated 4 May 2022.

Nowhere. Literally nowhere. Does it say. In any way, shape or form World Eaters are just beginning as a project.

Nowhere does it say they’re a year or more out.

The closest thing to that, in an article now a smidge over two months old, I’ve bolded in the quote.

So please. Explain to me the basis of GW being awful liars here?

Don’t worry. I’ll wait.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:27:05


Post by: xttz


 Darnok wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
So does this go to confirm the whole "we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense and the "we made Sisters because of the community poll!" was marketing tripe and a happy coincidence?

Nobody ever said the WE were "super early in development". Sharing some renders of chainaxes can be interpreted as WIP... that does not mean it had to be done recently.


Here's the quote from the related article, all it really says is that they weren't ready to show off the new model range yet

The new codex for the XII Legion is still a little way off – but the Warhammer Studio are hard at work in Khorne’s sweltering hell-forges, and we couldn’t be more excited. In the meantime, those of you who already have World Eaters armies can keep taking heads – we’ll soon be publishing an Index Hereticus of updated rules in White Dwarf, including datasheets for Khârn and the Berzerkers, to use with the new Codex: Chaos Space Marines.

Among the new models arriving with the codex are – of course – updated Khorne Berzerkers! The current miniatures have served the Lord of War for decades, claimed plenty of skulls and spilt their share of blood, and now it’s time for them to return to the Brass Citadel and put their feet up.* But what will the new miniatures look like? We managed to twist a few arms in the studio for an exclusive first look at something rather important…


I don't recall them saying "super early in development" on the stream either.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:27:53


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


 blood reaper wrote:
People are not complaining it's a bad thing that they are coming out lol people are saying "I guess GW wasn't being honest or frank about development time".

Why are you people like this? The positivity cult here is insane. Any question or doubt of anything is taken as a desire to complain (incidentally, you are now fixating on 'complaining about the complainers).


I don't recall GW putting a timeframe out at all. It's not like they said, "Hey, guys, we decided last week to give the World Eaters their own codex. And we're finally making new Berzerkers; here's a render of the weapons the design team threw together yesterday."

They said it's coming, and here's a teaser for you.

Stuff is arriving sooner than people assumed, and then they whine about it. It's clear there's a segment of the local population that just needs to whine about something.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:29:03


Post by: Agamemnon2


That's an amazingly garbage picture. There's also a floating cursor on it (by the edge of Angron's chainaxe)., and the cursor itself looks crappy and low-res. So I'm guessing a digital image leak instead of a printed publication.

The cropping looks odd and intentional. Or is this a vertical-mode phone pic? But if so, why is the quality so abysmal? Has it been enlarged? But if so, why has it been cropped so closely when there's clearly more interesting stuff right by the edges, like the lump to the right that could be a piece of a Guard tank?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:29:05


Post by: JSG


Yes, sisters were already done, WE are already done and so are the Dawnbringer Crusades for AoS. GW isn't going to show you things in development for the simple reason that they're likely to change. Does anyone believe the sculptor didn't edit that Angron a million times before declaring it finished?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:29:23


Post by: blood reaper


I can't recall anyone calling GW 'awful evil liars' . The most negative comment (which you have extrapolated as being a polemic about GW) is...

""we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense"

Which you know, you can say is an incorrect claim, but it's not a particularly furious or angry comment (unless Arbitrator does in fact hate the fact the stuff is coming a month or two earlier than expected - but you'd have to ask him)


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:30:34


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That's an amazingly garbage picture. There's also a floating cursor on it (by the edge of Angron's chainaxe)., and the cursor itself looks crappy and low-rest. So I'm guessing a digital image leak instead of a printed publication.


I can’t reveal my source, but I don’t think they had it first hand. Can only provide what I can provide.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:31:49


Post by: blood reaper


JSG wrote:
Yes, sisters were already done, WE are already done and so are the Dawnbringer Crusades for AoS. GW isn't going to show you things in development for the simple reason that they're likely to change. Does anyone believe the sculptor didn't edit that Angron a million times before declaring it finished?


Forge World used to actually show WIP miniatures and many of them went through huge changes - for example, Kor Phaeron was previewed in White Dwarf and looked very, very different to the figure which was released.

Spoiler:



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:34:05


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 blood reaper wrote:
I can't recall anyone calling GW 'awful evil liars' . The most negative comment (which you have extrapolated as being a polemic about GW) is...

""we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense"

Which you know, you can say is an incorrect claim, but it's not a particularly furious or angry comment (unless Arbitrator does in fact hate the fact the stuff is coming a month or two earlier than expected - but you'd have to ask him)


Mate it’s an outright lie used to manufacture outrage that GW had lied about a timescale. When, as ably demonstrated, they haven’t.

Why does Arbitrator constantly feel the need to have something to whine about? IDKIDC. But I’ll keep calling out such nonsense when I see it.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:36:56


Post by: blood reaper


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 blood reaper wrote:
I can't recall anyone calling GW 'awful evil liars' . The most negative comment (which you have extrapolated as being a polemic about GW) is...

""we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense"

Which you know, you can say is an incorrect claim, but it's not a particularly furious or angry comment (unless Arbitrator does in fact hate the fact the stuff is coming a month or two earlier than expected - but you'd have to ask him)


Mate it’s an outright lie used to manufacture outrage that GW had lied about a timescale. When, as ably demonstrated, they haven’t.

Why does Arbitrator constantly feel the need to have something to whine about? IDKIDC. But I’ll keep calling out such nonsense when I see it.


I don't really think they're going to 'manufacture outrage' by asking a pretty basic question about a practice which is common in many industries. I think there is something very strange in fixating so much on 'the negativity and whining' and in turn falling into these near hysterical negative fits over it.

You could've really just quoted the original piece and pointed out that GW hadn't said it was that far off, rather than "You DASTARDLY FIENDS lying about dear GW and ALWAYS seeking to COMPLAIN!"

Ironically you have whined more about the 'whining' (which comes off as such a desperate poisoning the well phrase) than the original posters did.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:41:05


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Oh there’s plenty to complain about (CSM’s weird arse Codex. Eldar still missing Plastic Aspects to name but two).

But just making stuff up to have something, anything to whine about irks me.

And yes. I did just differentiate between a complaint (Waiter, I asked for my Steak medium rare, this is well done) and a whine (Waiter why are there an odd number of peas on my plate and why is her carrot 2mm longer than me I want to speak to the manager).

One is rooted in a factual basis. Now not all will agree on all complaint points, sure.

The other. Whining. Is desperately trying to find something to bash GW with.

Here, Arbitrator has made stuff, referring to a comment never actually made to try to bash GW.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:41:35


Post by: Kanluwen


Guys. Guys.

THE GUARDSMEN HAVE BACKPACKS! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeah!


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:44:24


Post by: xttz


 blood reaper wrote:

I don't really think they're going to 'manufacture outrage' by asking a pretty basic question about a practice which is common in many industries. I think there is something very strange in fixating so much on 'the negativity and whining' and in turn falling into these near hysterical negative fits over it.


Ah so it's actually all OK because Arbitrator is "just asking questions"? That's good to know.

Please stop calling out obvious lies in future everyone. It's fine to lie but it's bad to be too "hysterical" about it!



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:46:01


Post by: Scottywan82


I realized Angron wouldn't look like the old Epic model at all, but I am somewhat surprised how much like a Bloodthirster he looks. Just seems like a strange aesthetic choice, I guess. Super excited for these, though! Especially new human chaos troops of any stripe. Bring on the cultists!


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:46:25


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Kanluwen wrote:
Guys. Guys.

THE GUARDSMEN HAVE BACKPACKS! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeah!


One might be toting a shotgun?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:49:12


Post by: Scottywan82


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Guys. Guys.

THE GUARDSMEN HAVE BACKPACKS! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeah!


One might be toting a shotgun?


It does look like that, yeah. I wonder if this means the new Cadian sprue, like the various Kill Team kits we have seen elsewhere, will include a "veteran" loadout in addition to the standard unit.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:50:16


Post by: Mchagen


I'm kinda at the too little, too late stage for the berserkers. It's good they finally updated them though.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:52:25


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


There’s a suggestion by a poster on B&C there are Terminators in the pic.

They may be right, but I’m not sure. But I do think there’s what looks to be something shirtless and Orgyn sized, just under Angry Ron’s left wing?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:55:11


Post by: blood reaper


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There’s a suggestion by a poster on B&C there are Terminators in the pic.

They may be right, but I’m not sure. But I do think there’s what looks to be something shirtless and Orgyn sized, just under Angry Ron’s left wing?


May be a support character or something.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:56:32


Post by: xttz


Wonder if they'll officially reveal any of these now or just ignore the leak. If the rumoured schedule is true and most of this stuff is next year, then it'll probably be the same approach as the HH leaks.

With the picture being mainly focused on World Eaters this does lend weight to the new Guard models being released first, as GW are normally fairly careful about artwork like this having unreleased models.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 10:58:18


Post by: blood reaper


 xttz wrote:
Wonder if they'll officially reveal any of these now or just ignore the leak. If the rumoured schedule is true and most of this stuff is next year, then it'll probably be the same approach as the HH leaks.

With the picture being mainly focused on World Eaters this does lend weight to the new Guard models being released first, as GW are normally fairly careful about artwork like this having unreleased models.


Could be released around the same time or in close proximity? A bunch of leaks seem to have claimed they'd be released around the end of the year.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 11:02:12


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Will world eaters get a launch box style release like beast snaggas and templars, or will we maybe see a battle box with new guard in the style of the csm vs eldar one?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 11:03:40


Post by: tneva82


JSG wrote:
Yes, sisters were already done, WE are already done and so are the Dawnbringer Crusades for AoS. GW isn't going to show you things in development for the simple reason that they're likely to change. Does anyone believe the sculptor didn't edit that Angron a million times before declaring it finished?


Sisters took over 1.5 years for main release. That actually fits idea of them starting and completing with about year from release...And seeing nobody expected them to show real time they had easily year to work on it presuming work started early 2018(with couple months before first previews)

We they didn't claim it's early stage or it's far away. "little while". Not "far away".

You are sayng cats are same as dogs. Or arquing without bothering to read what gw said(i give you benefit of doubt and assume you are able to read'.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 11:09:15


Post by: Arbitrator


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 blood reaper wrote:
I can't recall anyone calling GW 'awful evil liars' . The most negative comment (which you have extrapolated as being a polemic about GW) is...

""we're super early in development, we'll be sharing you the work in progress!" was always nonsense"

Which you know, you can say is an incorrect claim, but it's not a particularly furious or angry comment (unless Arbitrator does in fact hate the fact the stuff is coming a month or two earlier than expected - but you'd have to ask him)


Mate it’s an outright lie used to manufacture outrage that GW had lied about a timescale. When, as ably demonstrated, they haven’t.

Why does Arbitrator constantly feel the need to have something to whine about? IDKIDC. But I’ll keep calling out such nonsense when I see it.

Why do you constantly feel the need to defend a billion dollar company? If you're actually one of their social media managers I understand though.

My comment was more about them claiming Sisters were a response to polling anyway. Yeah I post a offhand negative comment but I didn't expect most of a page to be dedicated to it.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Will world eaters get a launch box style release like beast snaggas and templars, or will we maybe see a battle box with new guard in the style of the csm vs eldar one?

I think it'll be a launch box. They're usually worse value than the battle boxes since their contents are usually 100% new (except BT) and they know WE are going to sell insanely well. I bet the next battle box will be Guard vs Daemons.

 blood reaper wrote:
 xttz wrote:
Wonder if they'll officially reveal any of these now or just ignore the leak. If the rumoured schedule is true and most of this stuff is next year, then it'll probably be the same approach as the HH leaks.

With the picture being mainly focused on World Eaters this does lend weight to the new Guard models being released first, as GW are normally fairly careful about artwork like this having unreleased models.


Could be released around the same time or in close proximity? A bunch of leaks seem to have claimed they'd be released around the end of the year.

I think it'll be early or mid 2023. There's a half a year gap until 10th edition they probably won't fill with just Daemon stuff.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 11:29:09


Post by: Kanluwen


 Scottywan82 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Guys. Guys.

THE GUARDSMEN HAVE BACKPACKS! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeah!


One might be toting a shotgun?


It does look like that, yeah. I wonder if this means the new Cadian sprue, like the various Kill Team kits we have seen elsewhere, will include a "veteran" loadout in addition to the standard unit.

We've supposedly seen the Kill Team kit for them already. That weird, random, out of nowhere sprue.

The bit that looks like it "might be toting a shotgun" seems to be a redesigned grenade launcher, ala the breach-loader that the DKoK have.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 11:31:43


Post by: Sim-Life


Angron looks like a slightly fancier bloodthirster. Way to think outside the box GW.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 11:32:51


Post by: blood reaper


 Sim-Life wrote:
Angron looks like a slightly fancier bloodthirster. Way to think outside the box GW.


To be fair, this has always been DP Angron's design.




World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 11:36:06


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 blood reaper wrote:
 Sim-Life wrote:
Angron looks like a slightly fancier bloodthirster. Way to think outside the box GW.


To be fair, this has always been DP Angron's design.




It was also this:


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 11:36:45


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


It certainly matches the Heresy art. But is quite different from his original epic incarnation





For reference, Epic Bloodthirsters looked like this.





World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 11:38:05


Post by: blood reaper


I mean yeah but GW are now very particular about matching up art and mins. I don't think it should surprise anyone the Angron min and the Heresy pics are very, very close.

ALSO - some people on reddit are suggesting the models in the background are not cultists, but Khorngors?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:09:44


Post by: JSG


Kinda crazy that so far every Daemon Primarch has leaked. Wonder how we'll see Fulgrim.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:18:05


Post by: zend


JSG wrote:
Kinda crazy that so far every Daemon Primarch has leaked. Wonder how we'll see Fulgrim.


Inb4 DEA raid on a Warhammer store that turns up a bunch of cocaine, and the body cam that’s conveniently released to the public catches a glimpse of all of the new EC models.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:22:01


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 blood reaper wrote:
I mean yeah but GW are now very particular about matching up art and mins. I don't think it should surprise anyone the Angron min and the Heresy pics are very, very close.

ALSO - some people on reddit are suggesting the models in the background are not cultists, but Khorngors?


They could well be Khorngors. Dog headed, reverse jointed legs? Difficult to say of course because the pic is so….crap. But I wouldn’t rule it out.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:31:57


Post by: blood reaper


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 blood reaper wrote:
I mean yeah but GW are now very particular about matching up art and mins. I don't think it should surprise anyone the Angron min and the Heresy pics are very, very close.

ALSO - some people on reddit are suggesting the models in the background are not cultists, but Khorngors?


They could well be Khorngors. Dog headed, reverse jointed legs? Difficult to say of course because the pic is so….crap. But I wouldn’t rule it out.


Also potential duel-kit for AoS like the Tzangors. Needless to say, I would love Khorngors over Khorne Cultists.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:39:38


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


These guys look... weird. At least one has Cataphractii shoulder pads. Any theories on what they could be? I doubt it's an actual Termie unit, judging by their overall posture.

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World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:40:17


Post by: Iracundus


 blood reaper wrote:
I mean yeah but GW are now very particular about matching up art and mins. I don't think it should surprise anyone the Angron min and the Heresy pics are very, very close.

ALSO - some people on reddit are suggesting the models in the background are not cultists, but Khorngors?


As daemons, there is no guarantee they have to maintain the same form. Maybe some days Angron likes to hang loose and walk around in the nude with just a sword?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:41:59


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
These guys look... weird. At least one has Cataphractii shoulder pads. Any theories on what they could be? I doubt it's an actual Termie unit, judging by their overall posture.


I was wondering that.

The shoulder pad could just be a stylistic choice, and not reflective of Catapheactii. But….they do seem a wee bit chunkier than regular CSM?



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:43:20


Post by: blood reaper


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
These guys look... weird. At least one has Cataphractii shoulder pads. Any theories on what they could be? I doubt it's an actual Termie unit, judging by their overall posture.




While it's hard to tell, they seem to have a backpack and be carrying a Bolt Pistol (rather than combi bolter), so I'm going to suggest the soldier pad is just of an unorthodox design.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:48:01


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


One of them definitely has a sword in the same style as Angron’s. Smaller of course. But same style.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:57:37


Post by: zend


Red Butchers with hodgepodge equipment as a kit? They were in 8th edition as an upgrade to standard terminators, didn’t have any new artwork though. Cataphractii armor has to be rare as can be these days, so they scrounge whatever they can to replace armor parts?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 12:59:24


Post by: Garrac


Added the photo to the first post!


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:00:19


Post by: blood reaper


 zend wrote:
Red Butchers with hodgepodge equipment as a kit? They were in 8th edition as an upgrade to standard terminators, didn’t have any new artwork though. Cataphractii armor has to be rare as can be these days, so they scrounge whatever they can to replace armor parts?


I assume that some form of Terminator will be a kit. Like, Thousand Sons got one, Death Guard got two, so World Eaters getting Red Butchers or some kind of unique Terminator seems very likely.

My assumption is that the WE will get a lot more of a full range that Thousand Sons did - comparable to the DG. So we can assume (alongside what we already know),

>Termiators
>Support character (3 to 4)
>Chaos Lord of Khorne
>Vehicles?
>More unique infantry


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:01:41


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


I'm betting one or two (at best) Daemon engines instead of vehicles


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:02:12


Post by: blood reaper


I also assume WE will still have access to all the standard CSM vehicles and Daemon Engines which both TS and DG have.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:07:13


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 zend wrote:
Red Butchers with hodgepodge equipment as a kit? They were in 8th edition as an upgrade to standard terminators, didn’t have any new artwork though. Cataphractii armor has to be rare as can be these days, so they scrounge whatever they can to replace armor parts?


They're not nearly hunched over enough to be Terminators


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:08:49


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Possibly Blood Slaughterers in plastic?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:12:30


Post by: warboss


Garrac wrote:
Added the photo to the first post!


Thanks! (no sarcasm there) Always good to see the first post updated with the pertinent stuff when a few pages are added overnight.

As for the picture itself, I'm glad someone totally not employed by gw and under their manager's explicit orders was able to sneak out this picture and dial up to the internet with their secret AOL account to upload this "leak" to IRC.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:15:57


Post by: ArcaneHorror


 blood reaper wrote:
I mean yeah but GW are now very particular about matching up art and mins. I don't think it should surprise anyone the Angron min and the Heresy pics are very, very close.

ALSO - some people on reddit are suggesting the models in the background are not cultists, but Khorngors?


I think that they're Khorngors as well. Something about their legs and bodies look bestial. Angron mostly looks great, but something about his face just looks a little goofy, not the semi-cadaverous face we see in art. The Berzerkers are interesting, as from what I am seeing, they simply look like upscaled versions of the old models, and I was hoping for something more detailed and arcane like the Blades of Khorne minis. That being said, given how blurry this photo is, I could be wrong about everything.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:19:08


Post by: Kanluwen


The ones up top definitely look like Khornegors, while the ones on the ground look like Guardsmen.

OK_E has been commenting on this pretty actively this morning!
Look in the far background

Imagine cramming 8 bloodletters into a marine

The 8 dudesmen

The others are mortals with good boy faces


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:19:09


Post by: Scottywan82


 ArcaneHorror wrote:
 blood reaper wrote:
I mean yeah but GW are now very particular about matching up art and mins. I don't think it should surprise anyone the Angron min and the Heresy pics are very, very close.

ALSO - some people on reddit are suggesting the models in the background are not cultists, but Khorngors?


I think that they're Khorngors as well. Something about their legs and bodies look bestial. Angron mostly looks great, but something about his face just looks a little goofy, not the semi-cadaverous face we see in art. The Berzerkers are interesting, as from what I am seeing, they simply look like upscaled versions of the old models, and I was hoping for something more detailed and arcane like the Blades of Khorne minis. That being said, given how blurry this photo is, I could be wrong about everything.


I would love it if they were. I really want the Khorngors and the Pestigors to be rolled out so they are all available for Beastmen.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:21:25


Post by: blood reaper


My reasoning for them potentially being Khorngors is also the following,

>We already have melee cultists
>DG and TS don't have specialised cultists, but another chaff infantry option


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:34:27


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Grotsnik's little freakout aside, it's pretty clear that they could've shown us heaps when they teased WE to us, but chose not to, likely just because it wasn't within the X window they have for previews but the new Chaos Codex was, and they had to address the fact that WE weren't in that. Hardly a conspiracy.

I hope the things in the background are Khorngors. It'd be way more fun than Cultists: Again, and pay off the Beastmen we got in Blackstone Fortress.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:45:06


Post by: zend


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Grotsnik's little freakout aside, it's pretty clear that they could've shown us heaps when they teased WE to us, but chose not to, likely just because it wasn't within the X window they have for previews but the new Chaos Codex was, and they had to address the fact that WE weren't in that. Hardly a conspiracy.

I hope the things in the background are Khorngors. It'd be way more fun than Cultists: Again, and pay off the Beastmen we got in Blackstone Fortress.



Yeah it’s pretty obvious WE have been ready, just the release schedule is all jacked up, and since their exclusion from the codex made it obvious they’re ready to release separately they had to say “Stay tuned!”.

I really like the BSF beast men and the dual kit Tzaangors, so I’m all in for Khorngors. Wouldn’t mind a Blood Pact upgrade kit on top of it either.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:45:56


Post by: GaroRobe


 blood reaper wrote:
My reasoning for them potentially being Khorngors is also the following,

>We already have melee cultists
>DG and TS don't have specialised cultists, but another chaff infantry option


Will WE have access to those melee cultist in their own book? Plus melee cultists have guns and these may just be melee only


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:48:24


Post by: derpherp






I know right? Some people in the Warhammer community have gone well beyond what might be considered reasonable and act like GW personally slapped their mother. Obsessive levels of hatred over plastic toy soldiers.

I'm in a lot of fan communities and the Warhammer community is by far the worst for it's levels of unwarranted vitriolic hostility.

But it does seem that this loud part of the community has gone too far and I am seeing some justified backlash from the quiet part of the community.


Anyway, I wouldnt blame you for having second thoughts about sharing your leaks here next time considering the response...







World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:51:33


Post by: Voss


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Grotsnik's little freakout aside, it's pretty clear that they could've shown us heaps when they teased WE to us, but chose not to, likely just because it wasn't within the X window they have for previews but the new Chaos Codex was, and they had to address the fact that WE weren't in that. Hardly a conspiracy.

I hope the things in the background are Khorngors. It'd be way more fun than Cultists: Again, and pay off the Beastmen we got in Blackstone Fortress.


I personally would love to see Khorngors (and more beastmen in general, but.. well, what's one more missed opportunity for chaos at this point?)

But... lore-wise its trickier than it looks with the broken war bands angle of the WE. For Tzaangors its easy, the TS are on the planet of the sorcerers, in the Eye, and the non-marine population has degenerated into a stable population of beastmen. We know where they come from. Khorngors would come from...? And are picked up and accompany the mad hatter WE war bands because...?
I'd love a more complex take on Khorne and World Eaters that would allow for this, but I don't see GW doing it.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:56:35


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Well now we know: The World Eaters are so fractured as a Legion - as everyone has been telling us Chaos players for years - that they only went and got a whole book dedicated to just them.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 13:57:17


Post by: Chikout


derpherp wrote:




I know right? Some people in the Warhammer community have gone well beyond what might be considered reasonable and act like GW personally slapped their mother. Obsessive levels of hatred over plastic toy soldiers.

I'm in a lot of fan communities and the Warhammer community is by far the worst for it's levels of unwarranted vitriolic hostility.

But it does seem that this loud part of the community has gone too far and I am seeing some justified backlash from the quiet part of the community.


Anyway, I wouldnt blame you for having second thoughts about sharing your leaks here next time considering the response...







Yeah the leagues of votann thread is pretty nuts, but we're not alone. The Halo community is genuinely awful a lot of the time and God of War fans sent death threats because the Devs didn't announce the release date when a leaker said they would.

It really is amazing how much energy people put into hating things.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 14:06:14


Post by: ImAGeek


I’m looking forward to seeing how the new Beserkers will look in white and blue/red as late heresy World Eaters.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 14:10:27


Post by: Starfarer


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Grotsnik's little freakout aside


Calling out people for attributing statements to GW that they never made as a reason to complain about them, and providing them to the actual quotes that disprove their assertions is now a freakout?

I think we've reached peak gaslighting from the "must bash GW at all costs" crew.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 14:11:05


Post by: warboss


 ImAGeek wrote:
I’m looking forward to seeing how the new Beserkers will look in white and blue/red as late heresy World Eaters.


Same here. I really liked the WE colors when I first saw them in the Visions of the HH art book.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 15:19:00


Post by: Shadow Walker


 warboss wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
I’m looking forward to seeing how the new Beserkers will look in white and blue/red as late heresy World Eaters.


Same here. I really liked the WE colors when I first saw them in the Visions of the HH art book.

I am with you guys. White and blue WE look so cool.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 15:42:16


Post by: Dysartes


Chikout wrote:
Yeah the leagues of votann thread is pretty nuts, but we're not alone. The Halo community is genuinely awful a lot of the time and God of earsfans sent death threats because the Devs didn't announce the release date when a leaker said they would.

God of Ears is definitely a franchise worth... listening to...


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:33:59


Post by: Chikout


 Dysartes wrote:
Chikout wrote:
Yeah the leagues of votann thread is pretty nuts, but we're not alone. The Halo community is genuinely awful a lot of the time and God of earsfans sent death threats because the Devs didn't announce the release date when a leaker said they would.

God of Ears is definitely a franchise worth... listening to...

It's extremely annoying that you can't edit a quote.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:34:40


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


BLARGH!

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World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:36:08


Post by: caladancid


So much hand wringing about people on the internet saying mean things.

Stop apologizing for GW’s truly astonishing level of controlling behavior re schedules and new stuff, which leads to people harboring grudges. GW isn’t your friend, makes bad decisions all on its own, and most importantly doesn’t care about your help.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:36:51


Post by: TalonZahn


I can't stop looking at his bicep wing arm....

Overall, I think it looks pretty good, but that bicep wing arm....

Can't. Stop. Looking.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:39:28


Post by: Shadow Walker


 TalonZahn wrote:
I can't stop looking at his bicep wing arm....

Overall, I think it looks pretty good, but that bicep wing arm....

Can't. Stop. Looking.

Yeah, this


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:40:05


Post by: Voss


Nice little zinger at the end

We’ll have more to come from Angron and his World Eaters over the coming months, so stay tuned to Warhammer-Community.com if you prefer your previews at a respectable resolution…


Still... hrm. Distaste for special characters aside, hate the tail (too carnifex) and the swollen muscles on the wing-limbs, and undecided about all the bling. Its right on the edge of 'too much,' but they did a good job painting it (I love the corroded WE icon on the shoulder).

Wish they had put this much care into bloodthirster model (and not made it tap-dancing)


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:47:55


Post by: The Power Cosmic


I saw the new warcom article first and thought, hmm, there must have been a leak. Then I come to dakka and yep, leak!

He's neat, but I like the idea of new berzerkers and cadians more. And whoever the other guys are.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:48:18


Post by: Bob Lorgar


Why do the wings have to be pointed upwards? Not a good look.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:49:25


Post by: EviscerationPlague


It's definitely a model that I think we need to see in person.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:49:53


Post by: MajorWesJanson


I really want to build this model. Not own it or paint it, just build it.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:49:53


Post by: Marius Xerxes




Last sentence in the article is pretty funny imo

"We’ll have more to come from Angron and his World Eaters over the coming months, so stay tuned to Warhammer-Community.com if you prefer your previews at a respectable resolution…"



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:49:57


Post by: vim_the_good


I love the model and am looking forward to painting him. I don't get why there is a power armour port on the wing arm though. Would they not have developed during the ascent to deamonhood?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:50:28


Post by: Dysartes


Bob Lorgar wrote:
Why do the wings have to be pointed upwards? Not a good look.

To interfere with positioning around other models as little as possible?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:51:50


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 vim_the_good wrote:
I love the model and am looking forward to painting him. I don't get why there is a power armour port on the wing arm though. Would they not have developed during the ascent to deamonhood?


Melding of flesh and armour.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:57:11


Post by: lord_blackfang


Good article

But yeah that swole wing arm

Every square mm of Angron is covered in detail but he still ends up being just another boring rage demon imho.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 16:58:31


Post by: Laughing Man


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Good article

But yeah that swole wing arm

How else do you get that much muscle and armor off the ground?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:00:07


Post by: Sabotage!


I like the Angron quite a bit, but can we talk about the really awesome news? New Berserkers and New Cadians, two of the oldest kits in the 40k range! Pretty amazing. Both kits really needed it.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:00:56


Post by: gorgon


EviscerationPlague wrote:
It's definitely a model that I think we need to see in person.


Agree 100%. This is one that will look different in three dimensions. I'm not getting my head around it well in these 2-d pics.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:01:12


Post by: Dysartes


 Laughing Man wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Good article

But yeah that swole wing arm

How else do you get that much muscle and armor off the ground?

...larger wings?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:04:47


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I like Angron. About what I would've expected.

Sad thing is, it really reminds me of Creature Caster's King of Rage, which came out a few years ago and sad to say, may end up being a cheaper alternative!



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:06:11


Post by: Starfarer


caladancid wrote:
So much hand wringing about people on the internet saying mean things.

Stop apologizing for GW’s truly astonishing level of controlling behavior re schedules and new stuff, which leads to people harboring grudges. GW isn’t your friend, makes bad decisions all on its own, and most importantly doesn’t care about your help.


What's truly astonishing is people who have no concept of marketing schedules, product release plans that are all completely normal in many large businesses and attribute it as some sort of anomaly to GW.

Very few companies broadcast their future products far in advance. No clothing company is showcasing a Winter collection in Summer. Car companies aren't showing new product releases until they are in full production and ready to be reviewed by industry journalists to drive up hype.

There are literally entire industries built around marketing new products and exactly how those are rolled out and communicated. I've seen these first hand for very large companies, and all of them have strict NDAs and confidentiality clauses. And this is just for basic consumer goods, nothing exactly proprietary.

GW saying a new range will be shown "in the coming months" and then doing exactly that is neither unusual or controlling. It's normal business practice.

The fact that people would hold grudges over it says a lot more about them and their level of maturity than it does about GW as a business.

No one here is trying to "help" GW. Mostly people seem to be pushing back on demonstrably false assertions made by people looking for a reason to be upset. Calling that out is less a defense of GW and more just a reality check to some folks that seem to be way too heavily invested in a hobby of toy soldiers.

On topic:

Angron looks suitably Angrony.

Looking forward to seeing the rest of the range. Hopefully we get some sort of Kill Team option with the Berserkers and cultist dudes.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:06:41


Post by: Scottywan82


 Laughing Man wrote:
How else do you get that much muscle and armor off the ground?

Not with that attitude, certainly.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:08:36


Post by: vim_the_good


Are the 8 figures at the very back of the leaked image, beast men?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:10:13


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 vim_the_good wrote:
Are the 8 figures at the very back of the leaked image, beast men?


Nobody is quite sure due to crap image quality. But it is a possibility. Possibly dog headed.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:10:46


Post by: Sasori


Love the model, I am very excited for the army.

Every Daemon Primarch model has leaked early at this point. I remember the video they put when Magnus leaked, and they were diving in trashcans to pull out sprues. Was pretty hilarious.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:13:07


Post by: ImAGeek


I think he’s pretty good. The face looks better from the side than the front, and I’m not 100% on the structure of the wings (the thumb/hand part), but other than that I like.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:13:42


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Looking at the video, they’ve actually done a pretty good job (arguably better than Cyclops and Fartarse) in tying it to the Heresy model for Angry Ron. You can see how the armour and stuff warped and shifted to a better degree.

You will need to watch the video as it’s not as apparent in the stills.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:15:56


Post by: Voss


 Sasori wrote:
Love the model, I am very excited for the army.

Every Daemon Primarch model has leaked early at this point. I remember the video they put when Magnus leaked, and they were diving in trashcans to pull out sprues. Was pretty hilarious.
... of course?

They're icons of the setting that have been around for over two decades. So yeah, people are going to leak them.

Johnny (or Jenny) Made-up-for-this-Book just don't have the same pull. Some have been out for years now, and I still don't remember the names of the IF, IH and DA primaris Named Characters. For some of the loyalist supplements, I don't remember if they even got one.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:21:12


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Anyone care to speculate on rules? Or suggest rules you feel Angron is worthy of?

I’d like to see him able to properly slaughter infantry, preventing anyone bogging him down with chaffe. Perhaps some kind of Special Rule where he gets AoS damage distribution - so if I hit a unit of W1 models, with 6 Damage 3 hits, the total 18 wounds are distributed amongst the whole unit? Proper murderous sweeping strikes. Mass decapitations.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:27:03


Post by: Azreal13


Any word on how many points of articulation he has?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:28:22


Post by: Valkyrie


Two weapons, one will probably be "one-shot a tank" while the other will be "roll 3 hits for every attack", 4++ Invuln, attacks go up as he loses wounds, standard auras to World Eater units. I love the model but I'm wondering how they'll make him stand out from a regular Bloodthirster/Knight Gallant rules-wise.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:32:45


Post by: TalonZahn


The arm thing driving me nuts is probably just an angle issue with the photo.

GW wants their "Golden Angle" in the photo of his face, doesn't realize that bicep is catching ALL the light...

Need some different viewpoints.

I'd turn the model about 30 degrees left or light more from the right.

BICEP!



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:34:11


Post by: skeleton


Seeing some old art, the model is spot on.
But if i look on to it, i woundt know it was Angron.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:40:40


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


Mmmm, it's okay. I don't love it, there's too much going on such that no one part of the model draws the eye, it's just a mess of random detail.

Maybe in person or with a different paint job I'll start to like it more, dunno.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:46:44


Post by: NinthMusketeer


For my part I'm perfectly happy GW doesn't show us models as soon as their design is done because they are still going to be so far from actual release. Sure a formal announcement of release dates more than two weeks ahead of time would be great, but overall I don't have problems with how GW in this aspect.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:49:51


Post by: ZergSmasher


I like the model, just as much as I liked the plastic Bloodthirster when it came out so many moons ago (possibly the only single model that ever made me decide to start an army, that being Khorne Daemonkin). I don't play Chaos anymore (no, smartass, Dark Angels don't count, the jokes are getting old), so I won't be picking up Mr. Angry Ron myself, but I do actually like the model. Here's hoping he actually has good enough rules that players will actually take him in tournaments (unlike Morty and Magnus who see relatively little competitive play).


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:52:57


Post by: ArcaneHorror


I take back what I said about Angron's face. He looks awesome. And you should never skip wing day.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 17:57:37


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’m psyched to see what painters of outrageous skill do with him.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 18:12:05


Post by: Dread Master


Them some dead Cadians in that pic.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 18:26:02


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


A thought occurs for when Fulgrim gets his turn…just how visually distinctive will he be from Morathi?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 18:29:03


Post by: ScarletRose


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
A thought occurs for when Fulgrim gets his turn…just how visually distinctive will he be from Morathi?


Tempted to make a joke about distinguishing by number of breasts the model has, but I'm not sure how that would land.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 18:48:48


Post by: Memnoch


I like how his head is pretty much exactly the same as one of the early illustrations of him.




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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
A thought occurs for when Fulgrim gets his turn…just how visually distinctive will he be from Morathi?


I reckon he will be similar in pose to the original HH image which would be unusually static for such a centerpiece model.

Otherwise he will be way too similar to to Morathi unless hes doing something stupid like flying or coiled around a Titan leg or something.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 19:20:56


Post by: Geifer


 TalonZahn wrote:
The arm thing driving me nuts is probably just an angle issue with the photo.

GW wants their "Golden Angle" in the photo of his face, doesn't realize that bicep is catching ALL the light...

Need some different viewpoints.

I'd turn the model about 30 degrees left or light more from the right.

BICEP!



Yeah, that's definitely a thing. GW's photographers are pretty good at picking dodgy angles and manage time and again to make good sculpts look worse. It's the number one reason why I'm reluctant to form anything resembling a final opinion on many GW models until I see the 360° view on the store page.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
A thought occurs for when Fulgrim gets his turn…just how visually distinctive will he be from Morathi?


The question I have is, would it matter if they were similar? Fulgrim isn't a crossover model like a Greater Daemon, nor is Morathi. They're not going to get in each other's way.

I imagine that Fulgrim will have bulkier armor, his upper body will have a greater presence and with four arms he's not going to have a pose similar to Morathi pointing her (pointy) stick.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 19:33:42


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Well….possibly? I’ve not objection to similarities, but as the last Daemon Primarch out the gate, if it’s just a reskinning of Morthi’s STL(?) file, I think folk would be entirely justified in mass disappointment.

Yes that is tempered with the knowledge that snake bodied models have somewhat more limited poses than those with like, legs and stuff. Due to physics and wanting it to be standing up and nicely balanced.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 19:36:52


Post by: Tastyfish


Almost looks like some of those cultists in the back could be the Age of Sigmar Khorne mortals.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:06:57


Post by: MinscS2


Magnus does not look like a Lord of Change.

Mortarion does not look like a Great Unclean One.

Why does Angron have to look like a blinged-up Bloodthirster?

If GW had announced this as a new Special Character BT, no one would've batted an eye.

I really want to like it - because it's freaking Angron! But I can't...


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:09:56


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Because Khorne is unimaginative. And, I’m pretty sure Angron was the first to transition?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:13:38


Post by: blood reaper


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Because Khorne is unimaginative. And, I’m pretty sure Angron was the first to transition?


Angron is the second Daemon Primarch - and not even that late into the Heresy either. IIRC, Fulgrim ascended before him.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:24:30


Post by: drbored


GW's gotta be seething about this one.

The reveal of a new primarch is a BIG deal, one that I'm sure they had planned for weeks of teasers, a big reveal event at a tournament or other convention, lots of Khorne-themed advertisements ready for Twitter and Instagram and Facebook.

But then woops, somebody snaps a pic from their 2002 flip phone and uploads it to the internet, bye-bye hype train.

Honestly a bit relieved. The hype train for something like Angron would have been a long slog of "we know he's coming so just reveal him already", so I definitely prefer this. Pull the rug out from under GW and just get us the models already. They can make a big deal out of reveals when they get the game back to a state worth playing.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:31:04


Post by: Dimrill


drbored wrote:
GW's gotta be seething about this one.

The reveal of a new primarch is a BIG deal, one that I'm sure they had planned for weeks of teasers, a big reveal event at a tournament or other convention, lots of Khorne-themed advertisements ready for Twitter and Instagram and Facebook.

But then woops, somebody snaps a pic from their 2002 flip phone and uploads it to the internet, bye-bye hype train.


But that's exactly what happened with Magnus, too.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:38:48


Post by: Garrac


More updates to the first post!

Let's hope that the rules get leaked in the rest of this summer. And maybe a decent reveal of the zerkers?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:39:53


Post by: Togusa


drbored wrote:
GW's gotta be seething about this one.

The reveal of a new primarch is a BIG deal, one that I'm sure they had planned for weeks of teasers, a big reveal event at a tournament or other convention, lots of Khorne-themed advertisements ready for Twitter and Instagram and Facebook.

But then woops, somebody snaps a pic from their 2002 flip phone and uploads it to the internet, bye-bye hype train.

Honestly a bit relieved. The hype train for something like Angron would have been a long slog of "we know he's coming so just reveal him already", so I definitely prefer this. Pull the rug out from under GW and just get us the models already. They can make a big deal out of reveals when they get the game back to a state worth playing.


Which is insane.

I hate modern marketing bs. Just make a quality product, release quality product, profit. It's really that simple.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:46:46


Post by: Voss


drbored wrote:
GW's gotta be seething about this one.

The reveal of a new primarch is a BIG deal, one that I'm sure they had planned for weeks of teasers, a big reveal event at a tournament or other convention, lots of Khorne-themed advertisements ready for Twitter and Instagram and Facebook.

But then woops, somebody snaps a pic from their 2002 flip phone and uploads it to the internet, bye-bye hype train.


Good thing they had not just an article, but a trailer complete with music and rotating pans ready to go the next day, huh?

Not saying this is intentional leak, but I don't think this a seeth-worthy disruption to GW's 'hype train.' They don't generally spend weeks on a single model (no matter how important), and at this point a leak (or 'leak') should be expected.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:47:37


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


Of course it's planned. Nothing isn't planned these days.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 20:52:38


Post by: zend


 MinscS2 wrote:
Magnus does not look like a Lord of Change.

Mortarion does not look like a Great Unclean One.

Why does Angron have to look like a blinged-up Bloodthirster?

If GW had announced this as a new Special Character BT, no one would've batted an eye.

I really want to like it - because it's freaking Angron! But I can't...


Mortarion looks like a big, Daemonic version of himself.

Magnus looks like a big, Daemonic version of himself.

Angron was already big and angry, now he looks like a bigger angrier Daemonic version of himself.

Seems pretty simple, no? Fulgrim is the only Daemon Primarch that’s an outlier, everyone else is just a Chaosified version of how they already were.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 21:03:01


Post by: drbored


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Of course it's planned. Nothing isn't planned these days.


lmao, this is one of those conspiracy theories that just doesn't hold water.

It's not that the leak was planned, it's more that GW has to be prepared in case of leaks. To that end, they make these videos well ahead of time, so that despite how schedules and releases change, or if leaks happen, they have these articles and trailers ready to go when they're needed.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 21:07:37


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


drbored wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Of course it's planned. Nothing isn't planned these days.


lmao, this is one of those conspiracy theories that just doesn't hold water.

It's not that the leak was planned, it's more that GW has to be prepared in case of leaks. To that end, they make these videos well ahead of time, so that despite how schedules and releases change, or if leaks happen, they have these articles and trailers ready to go when they're needed.


That, and the piccie I shared came from somewhere. No I don’t know the original source. But look at it. It’s a Post Production Photo. Photoshopped. Centred. Possibly one of a few dozen and pick the best.

It’s not somehow, miraculously, a sneaky peaky from the sculptor’s desk. At all. This is something clearly going to, or already, In Print, just not revealed to us mere plebs. Sure, it might be grabbed from a file sent over email to the printer. But it’s still post-production. A low res image of stuff long ready and only now, because lead times are a thing, going to press.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 21:08:18


Post by: Binabik15


 skeleton wrote:
Seeing some old art, the model is spot on.
But if i look on to it, i woundt know it was Angron.



Is it? No snark intended. When I think demon Angron I think of the Epic model and that one artwork where he has a chest that's like 3 meters of bronze armour, but I have never really looked into demon Angron that much. Raving Primarch Angron interests me more.

I like the model, but don't have to have it. Gorefather and the World Eaters logo are thr best pieces, maybe lame should have put more armour on him. Dog-headed beastmen or beastmen in general,however would be ace. Already have a Khorne Minotaur with a boarding shield and a huge chainaxe that needs rules - or gets demoted to spawn or maybe Greater Possessed.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 21:36:34


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


drbored wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Of course it's planned. Nothing isn't planned these days.


lmao, this is one of those conspiracy theories that just doesn't hold water.

It's not that the leak was planned, it's more that GW has to be prepared in case of leaks. To that end, they make these videos well ahead of time, so that despite how schedules and releases change, or if leaks happen, they have these articles and trailers ready to go when they're needed.


And labelling everything 'a conspiracy theory' is the new hip way of hand waving away arguments without having to put in any effort. Without any additional evidence both claims are equally valid.

'oops, another thing that everyone knew was coming got leaked guys, oh no! best make an article.' At this point it's happening about once a month, and it seems to be a solid part of their marketing strategy. Theres no way a huge company like gw doesn't have the means to shore up it's media and ensure these leaks don't happen.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 21:40:52


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


Gonna have to agree on relation to mortal form. Magnus and Mortarion are both easily recognizable compared to their mortal selves.

Angron just looks like yet another Bloodthirster, and I feel like there's already too many of those.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 21:44:51


Post by: Kanluwen


OK_E is commenting that there's one more thing we have yet to see/know about, and that it "runs through walls and is red"...


On an unrelated note:
Lord Discordants that worship Khorne, can ride upon three-headed Juggernauts known as Juggernaut Helstalkers.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 21:46:28


Post by: techsoldaten


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
drbored wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Of course it's planned. Nothing isn't planned these days.


lmao, this is one of those conspiracy theories that just doesn't hold water.

It's not that the leak was planned, it's more that GW has to be prepared in case of leaks. To that end, they make these videos well ahead of time, so that despite how schedules and releases change, or if leaks happen, they have these articles and trailers ready to go when they're needed.


And labelling everything 'a conspiracy theory' is the new hip way of hand waving away arguments without having to put in any effort. Without any additional evidence both claims are equally valid.

A poster on another site claimed to be receiving leaks of a recent Codex from a playtester. He also claimed multiple times to be waiting for a date to release the details, which came out gradually. Most of the details proved to be correct.

In PR and media, this practice is called an embargo. It's a controlled release of information to achieve a strategic communication goal. In this case, hype. The gradual release of details is called a drip campaign.

Not sure why a genuine leaker would do an embargoed drip campaign instead of just leaking everything at once. Like every other leaker does. Unless that person's a paid marketing professional working on a hype campaign.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 21:57:06


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Because it brings them attention? Over a sustained period?

Now I am not saying that is the case, heaven forefend.

But is a possibility you seem not to have considered.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 22:09:03


Post by: techsoldaten


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Because it brings them attention? Over a sustained period?

Now I am not saying that is the case, heaven forefend.

But is a possibility you seem not to have considered.

Considered it. Attention is a potent drug.

But sustained effort is not in the nature of leakers. They tend to want to blurt out all their wonderful facts at once.

Also, why would he wait for someone else to tell him when he's allowed to release certain details? That's not leaking.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 22:14:55


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


What evidence is there this is being done to a specific schedule, I counter?

Whilst, as ever, I can’t say what I do? Dragging it out, for the sake of sustained attention is absolutely a solid part of human psychology.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 22:27:14


Post by: Bob Lorgar


 Kanluwen wrote:
OK_E is commenting that there's one more thing we have yet to see/know about, and that it "runs through walls and is red"...


Oh No!
Oh No!
Oh No!
Oh Yeah!

Kool-Aid Man is a World Eater? Who knew?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 22:41:35


Post by: crumby_cataphract


The only things I can think of are juggernauts. Didn't they just recently get a plastic kit?

Maybe it's a new type of dreadnought?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 22:50:03


Post by: Lord Blackscale


As soon as I saw the leaked image it brought to mind a excerpt from a Darth Vader comic.

Rebels: You are surrounded!
Vader: All I am surrounded by is fear, and dead men.

Works better if you read the Vader part in the proper James Earl Jones voice and cadence.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/08 22:56:09


Post by: Shakalooloo


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
A thought occurs for when Fulgrim gets his turn…just how visually distinctive will he be from Morathi?


He does have an extra pair of arms over her, so has double the number of pointing options he can display.


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 vim_the_good wrote:
I love the model and am looking forward to painting him. I don't get why there is a power armour port on the wing arm though. Would they not have developed during the ascent to deamonhood?


The wings are his real, original arms, and the handy things gripping his weapons grew as part of his daemonic mutation / ascension!


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 00:11:53


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Ok, proper pictures. Love 'im! He's great.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 00:16:31


Post by: Twilight Pathways


 crumby_cataphract wrote:
The only things I can think of are juggernauts. Didn't they just recently get a plastic kit?

Maybe it's a new type of dreadnought?


It's a juggernaut. Someone on Reddit responded to Ok_E "Picturing Vinnie Jones saying "Don't you know who I am?"" (a reference to his stint as Juggernaut in X-Men) and Ok_E responded in the affirmative.

Whether it's a single disco lord juggernaut that someone mentioned earlier in the thread, or a new multi-model unit, remains to be seen.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 00:26:58


Post by: ZergSmasher


 Shakalooloo wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
A thought occurs for when Fulgrim gets his turn…just how visually distinctive will he be from Morathi?


He does have an extra pair of arms over her, so has double the number of pointing options he can display.

I'm mainly wondering how, if Fulgrim now has a snaky body, he's going to put one foot on his Games Workshop-issue tactical rock and be a proper Warhammer (TM) model. He doesn't even have feet! Maybe that's why EC are stuck just being special snowflakes in the CSM book; they've got to figure out how to put their Primarch on a tactical rock!


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 00:29:37


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Is there any fluff behind the big sword Angron has now?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 01:09:22


Post by: Garukadon


Nothing’s changed with the player base here I see. Always something to be unhappy about.

Angron looks too much like a bloodthirster? So what? -the model looks awesome!

Angron with a bunch of bloodthirsters on the table would look like an AoS army, which I think would look great.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 02:38:50


Post by: Starfarer


The fact that Miniac got kicked out of the Horus Heresy event for showing a heavy weapons add on for a kit that was already fully showcased, just 2 days before the official release indicates that GW does not have an internal leak strategy. They wouldn't be so reactive to minor influencer leaks if that were the case.

They've also apparently cancelled external play testing over the continued leaks. This would indicate the leaks are genuine and GW simply has a mitigation plan in place for such leaks by having reveal videos prepped ahead of time. Not surprising based on the consistency of leaks


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 03:18:32


Post by: chaos0xomega


I don't love Angrons head, the big goofy square jawline doesn't look right with how angular and pointy everything else is.

 Kanluwen wrote:
OK_E is commenting that there's one more thing we have yet to see/know about, and that it "runs through walls and is red"...


The Kool Aid man?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is there any fluff behind the big sword Angron has now?


Yes, its mentioned in a couple of the HH novels. IIRC he gets it when he becomes a daemon prince and dumps Gorechild for it. Forget its name.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 03:48:04


Post by: ArcaneHorror


I somehow doubt the Lord Discordant rule, as that's basically describing a cool conversion shown in the White Dwarf article. I am wondering though, what kind of unique Chaos Lord we'll get, like how the Death Guard got the Lord of Contagion in the beginning.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 04:43:09


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


 ArcaneHorror wrote:
I somehow doubt the Lord Discordant rule, as that's basically describing a cool conversion shown in the White Dwarf article. I am wondering though, what kind of unique Chaos Lord we'll get, like how the Death Guard got the Lord of Contagion in the beginning.


Who says you will? The Thousand Sons just got different flavors of Sorcerers.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 04:44:56


Post by: ArcaneHorror


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
 ArcaneHorror wrote:
I somehow doubt the Lord Discordant rule, as that's basically describing a cool conversion shown in the White Dwarf article. I am wondering though, what kind of unique Chaos Lord we'll get, like how the Death Guard got the Lord of Contagion in the beginning.


Who says you will? The Thousand Sons just got different flavors of Sorcerers.


The Thousand Sons don't have Chaos Lords at all the in the traditional sense. Their sorcerers are their lords.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 05:00:49


Post by: Daedalus81


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Gonna have to agree on relation to mortal form. Magnus and Mortarion are both easily recognizable compared to their mortal selves.

Angron just looks like yet another Bloodthirster, and I feel like there's already too many of those.


Thing is...he's a Bloodthirster in a WE army. I would agree if he was getting slotted in with Daemons, but as his own distinct presence in that army he does well.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 05:14:51


Post by: tneva82


 MinscS2 wrote:
Magnus does not look like a Lord of Change.

Mortarion does not look like a Great Unclean One.

Why does Angron have to look like a blinged-up Bloodthirster?

If GW had announced this as a new Special Character BT, no one would've batted an eye.

I really want to like it - because it's freaking Angron! But I can't...




Blame the artist who drew angron like decade+ ago.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 05:31:06


Post by: Carlovonsexron


Garukadon wrote:
Nothing’s changed with the player base here I see. Always something to be unhappy about.

Angron looks too much like a bloodthirster? So what? -the model looks awesome!

Angron with a bunch of bloodthirsters on the table would look like an AoS army, which I think would look great.


By complaining about the complainers, you're feeding into the cycle!

Just let other people dislike it as much as you do like it- it doesn't really matter either way.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 05:39:46


Post by: Dudeface


 Starfarer wrote:
The fact that Miniac got kicked out of the Horus Heresy event for showing a heavy weapons add on for a kit that was already fully showcased, just 2 days before the official release indicates that GW does not have an internal leak strategy. They wouldn't be so reactive to minor influencer leaks if that were the case.

They've also apparently cancelled external play testing over the continued leaks. This would indicate the leaks are genuine and GW simply has a mitigation plan in place for such leaks by having reveal videos prepped ahead of time. Not surprising based on the consistency of leaks


Mike Brandt replied to the reddit thread on the playtesters to confirm that there are still external playtesting groups and that some testers had been rotated in/out for various reasons.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 06:23:11


Post by: gigasnail


Looking spicy.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 06:31:40


Post by: Albertorius


He looks OK. Like a Bloodthirster. Which he is, so...

Eh.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 06:48:41


Post by: Bosskelot


 Starfarer wrote:
The fact that Miniac got kicked out of the Horus Heresy event for showing a heavy weapons add on for a kit that was already fully showcased, just 2 days before the official release indicates that GW does not have an internal leak strategy. They wouldn't be so reactive to minor influencer leaks if that were the case.


Well, no, it was also the fact he paid someone else to paint the models he was meant to be painting for the event.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 07:15:51


Post by: Carlovonsexron


Would anyone have known that at the time before he got kicked out?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 07:43:30


Post by: Dudeface


Carlovonsexron wrote:
Would anyone have known that at the time before he got kicked out?


Nah, it was definitely for leaking the reveal early imo.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 08:10:25


Post by: Dr. Mills


My first ever proper 40k army was a Khorne Berzerker force, used to love shoving a land raider up the middle and dumping a squad of the crazy bastards into the heart of an army, fun times...

To relive those heady days of 1998 again would be fantastic!


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 08:17:46


Post by: a_typical_hero


Angron looks too much like a generic Bloodthirster or Demon Prince to me and not enough like a Primarch.

Mortarion and Magnus have more personality in their models.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 08:29:04


Post by: SicSemperTyrannis


Definitely going to get him. Really love the model. I think he is so beefy he will stand out even in a group of Bloodthirsters.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 09:09:59


Post by: Dr. Mills


a_typical_hero wrote:
Angron looks too much like a generic Bloodthirster or Demon Prince to me and not enough like a Primarch.

Mortarion and Magnus have more personality in their models.


To touch on this, I think it was a good design decision to make him resemble a generic bloodthirster. Isn't the bloodthirster the ultimate avatar of Khorne (unless the lore I'm thinking of isn't correct/me forgetting) so essentially a mortal, albeit a genetically enhanced demi human becoming one is the ultimate end goal of a Khorne desciple?

Also, the lack of personality might be a sly nod to Angron himself. Because let's face it - after his unwanted rescue by big Emps, all he did was Get angry, sulk, kill things, get angry, kill his own troops, get angry go on genocidal rampage to make worlds compliant, get angry and force his troops to get butchers nails too.

Oh, and get earth shatteringly ass blastingly super duper cray cray ANGY.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 09:22:54


Post by: Garrac


A thing to note here: the Bloodthirster touch was allways Angron's design.

Is it weird they didn't decide to retcon it? Maybe, but it's his classic design.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 09:34:38


Post by: Geifer


I wouldn't even say that Angron looks like a generic Bloodthirster. Bloodthirsters have a particular style of armor that combines with a largely bare body. Angron has visible legion and Marine styling to his armor, seems to have leg armor, that piece on his back, and tubes and wires. I'd call him reasonably distinct from Bloodthirsters, to be honest.

Any similarity is just down to Khorne's preferred look being generic rage demon, which both of them sport. Bulging muscles, red skin, ugly mugs, that sort of thing.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 09:38:53


Post by: blood reaper


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is there any fluff behind the big sword Angron has now?


It was commissioned for him by Lorgar shortly after he ascended.

I'm not really sure what people expected with Angron. The model is like, a spot on recreation of Angron art from the various books and such.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 09:55:39


Post by: Dudeface


 blood reaper wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is there any fluff behind the big sword Angron has now?


It was commissioned for him by Lorgar shortly after he ascended.

I'm not really sure what people expected with Angron. The model is like, a spot on recreation of Angron art from the various books and such.


That's the black blade that was broken on armageddon though isn't it?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 10:10:23


Post by: xttz


 Geifer wrote:
I wouldn't even say that Angron looks like a generic Bloodthirster. Bloodthirsters have a particular style of armor that combines with a largely bare body. Angron has visible legion and Marine styling to his armor, seems to have leg armor, that piece on his back, and tubes and wires. I'd call him reasonably distinct from Bloodthirsters, to be honest.

Any similarity is just down to Khorne's preferred look being generic rage demon, which both of them sport. Bulging muscles, red skin, ugly mugs, that sort of thing.


Yeah agreed. The details are there if you look closely enough. It would be cool if the model gets the Avatar treatment, and has some alternative cosmetic options like different heads to pick from.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 10:16:44


Post by: KirvesUK


Sorry to derail the Angron discussion for a minute, and yes I'll be getting him if he's Mortarion power or above, but do my World Eaters actually benefit from the Crispy Wanton phases as per the new Codex? I suddenly thought, if we're not in it, how do we benefit?

If we do benefit from exploding 6s, does that mean my DG and Thousand Sons army also now benefit from the phases?
Thanks all


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 10:23:32


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


KirvesUK wrote:
Sorry to derail the Angron discussion for a minute, and yes I'll be getting him if he's Mortarion power or above, but do my World Eaters actually benefit from the Crispy Wanton phases as per the new Codex? I suddenly thought, if we're not in it, how do we benefit?

If we do benefit from exploding 6s, does that mean my DG and Thousand Sons army also now benefit from the phases?
Thanks all


For now, yes, World Eaters get Let the Galaxy Burn. Death Guard and Thousand Sons do not. It's a metaphysical certitude that World Eaters will lose it when their codex comes out.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 10:30:24


Post by: techsoldaten


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
KirvesUK wrote:
Sorry to derail the Angron discussion for a minute, and yes I'll be getting him if he's Mortarion power or above, but do my World Eaters actually benefit from the Crispy Wanton phases as per the new Codex? I suddenly thought, if we're not in it, how do we benefit?

If we do benefit from exploding 6s, does that mean my DG and Thousand Sons army also now benefit from the phases?
Thanks all


For now, yes, World Eaters get Let the Galaxy Burn. Death Guard and Thousand Sons do not. It's a metaphysical certitude that World Eaters will lose it when their codex comes out.

... and that it will be replaced with their own set of doctrines / special rules, specific to the Legion.

Who knows if it will be useful. This is World Eaters, the army eternally searching for mobility so half their troops don't die before getting into cc.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 10:35:33


Post by: KirvesUK


Thanks for the clarification, and yes, my last battle was a loss because I simply didn't have enough surviving troops for effective combat. I'm hoping to be able to turn off overwatch like a nasty space elf in the future.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 10:35:49


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Frankly my literally only complaint about Angron is that his face isn't quite the skull-face from the art
But hey, Magnus and Mortarion both had actual options, and so did the Void Dragon and Abaddon. So I'm hoping it still can be included

[Thumb - Daemon_Prince_Angron_by_Alex_Boyd.jpg]


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 10:55:26


Post by: Scottywan82


 xttz wrote:
Yeah agreed. The details are there if you look closely enough. It would be cool if the model gets the Avatar treatment, and has some alternative cosmetic options like different heads to pick from.


Magnus did, do hopefully Angron will too.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 12:29:17


Post by: GaroRobe


Even Mortarion had two heads included in the set (although they are pretty much identical, unlike Magnus.)

I don't mind his current head, but the more skull-ish one would be amazing. I wish they had gone more extreme with the Butcher's Nails as well. Either something in line with the artwork above, or like Dorghar's Khornate head.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 13:31:10


Post by: Garrac


Btw I totally love the style of the new swords. Maybe I'll use one for my regular BL marines to act as a demonic blade


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 13:33:32


Post by: a_typical_hero


A different head might do it. Found this here on Dakka's gallery:



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 14:07:29


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


How else would they have modelled him? Everyone is honking about how he looks like a bloodthirster, how else would they distinguish him? Magnus and mortarion are much easier to distinguish because they can be made large humans with additions. Angron wouldn't look right as just a big angry khorne berserker.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 14:44:51


Post by: JSG


That's what he is though. He's still wearing his old armour but you can't see it because of the pose. The halo-like trophy rack is also wasted with this pose. Should of had him more upright.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 15:36:00


Post by: EviscerationPlague


Wait, Mortarion had two heads in the kit?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 16:00:59


Post by: JSG


EviscerationPlague wrote:
Wait, Mortarion had two heads in the kit?


It's the same head just looking the other way or maybe straight on.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 16:15:43


Post by: Jidmah


EviscerationPlague wrote:
Wait, Mortarion had two heads in the kit?


It's the same head though, just looking in a different direction. There are two ways to build the model, one with Lantern raised in his right hand in which case Mortarion is looking over it as if aiming. The other way has Silence in the right hand and Lantern pointing down in his left, Mortarion looks slightly ahead and down in that case - most likely having the eyes fixed on something about to get the scythe.

Hilariously, you could build Mortarion with two pistols and no scythe if you really wanted.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 16:49:52


Post by: NAVARRO


Thats an immense centrepiece packed with details and features.
I cannot even imagine the price they are going to ask for it.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 16:50:02


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Yup. They’re very different poses to the current ones, and GW have explicitly told us new Berzerkers are on the way.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 18:42:00


Post by: Brian888


Personally I think it makes perfect sense that he looks a lot like a Bloodthirster. For one, it's how he's always looked in the art. For another, Khorne has always seemed to be the god least interested in variety for its own sake among his daemons. If the basic Bloodthirster body shape gets the job done, it's fine to Khorne.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 19:12:19


Post by: Esmer


I like him. He seems more compactly designed than Magnus or Mortarion. The Ankylosaurus like tail is a nice touch.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 19:47:18


Post by: ArcaneHorror


It seems like one of the Berzerkers is armed with a bolter. I wonder if we'll have a situation like with Plague Marines where they can take both a bolter and a melee weapon. Also, I'm kind of disappointed that the helmets are flat in their design. I was hoping for helmets akin to the more elaborate ones worn by Blood Warriors and Skull Crushers.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 21:36:17


Post by: Semper


I could never sculpt anything remotely as good as that Angron myself, so hats off to the person/people who did... that being said it's the first primarch model in 40k and HH that I think has missed the mark to such a degree for me personally. I think the wings are overly muscular and limbed/spiked to the point of almost absurdity relative to a game filled with it and the face is just a little too... cartoonish? Wing arms needed a little less muscle and the face needed a hint of Be'lakor or Magnus in it rather than a carboard box. I can kind of understand the choices made as the aesthetics align closely to the plastic bloodthirster model which is cool it's invoked that sense.

I saw someone on Instagram say it needed more Primarch and less daemon and I agree with that sentiment. Also, sometimes less is more and that philosophy was needed here in my opinion. Interesting considering the tone and quality of so many of the recent chaos sculpts.

All that aside, really happy he actually has a model coming and that WE are getting love. I like the looks of the new berserkers in the BG and can't wait to see Angron's new rules! I'm betting that black blade is going to be close to a rail gun in sword form.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 22:48:16


Post by: Twilight Pathways


The more I look at Angron the more I like him. I would much prefer if he didn't canonically look like a bloodthirster variant, but unfortunately he does, so there it is. Could/should they have retconned his design into something more singular? I reckon so - it's not like there's absolutely tons of artwork or novel appearances by him. He's a lot more bulky and heavily armoured than a bloodthirster, though, and overall I still think he looks great.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 22:49:48


Post by: Daedalus81


 Geifer wrote:
I wouldn't even say that Angron looks like a generic Bloodthirster. Bloodthirsters have a particular style of armor that combines with a largely bare body. Angron has visible legion and Marine styling to his armor, seems to have leg armor, that piece on his back, and tubes and wires. I'd call him reasonably distinct from Bloodthirsters, to be honest.

Any similarity is just down to Khorne's preferred look being generic rage demon, which both of them sport. Bulging muscles, red skin, ugly mugs, that sort of thing.


The huge WE shoulder pad is my favorite part.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/09 23:41:14


Post by: Dread Master


Angron is dope. Can’t wait to get a clear view of the new Berserkers.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/10 00:15:54


Post by: Gitkikka


Ron looks great. He'd be more distinctive from Bloodthirsters if GW hadn't moved away from the "canine" faces that 'thirsters originally had.

I'm not mad about that change, by the way (totally mad).


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/10 00:22:51


Post by: GaroRobe


 Gitkikka wrote:
Ron looks great. He'd be more distinctive from Bloodthirsters if GW hadn't moved away from the "canine" faces that 'thirsters originally had.

I'm not mad about that change, by the way (totally mad).


Doesn't the bloodthirster kit have an option for a dog face? Maybe its a bit more bull-ish, but it still looks like a homage to the older model



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/10 02:24:56


Post by: Chikout


I'm not the biggest Khorne fan but I think this is my favourite of the three primarchs. What is surprising is how poor the "golden angle" photo is. I understand that they want him looking at the camera but you really can't make out the pose especially with his big axe in the way. This angle from the video is much better. It makes the model look much more aggressive and shows off the impressive depth the model has. I really like a model that embraces it's 3d nature, rather than the old metal models that disappeared if you turned them sideways.

[Thumb - Screenshot_20220710-111202.png]


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/10 04:20:43


Post by: Gitkikka


 GaroRobe wrote:
 Gitkikka wrote:
Ron looks great. He'd be more distinctive from Bloodthirsters if GW hadn't moved away from the "canine" faces that 'thirsters originally had.

I'm not mad about that change, by the way (totally mad).


Doesn't the bloodthirster kit have an option for a dog face? Maybe its a bit more bull-ish, but it still looks like a homage to the older model



Eh, not so much - looks too bovine to me. I want them to look like the guy in profile in the upper left picture...



...granted, even the metals at the time didn't look like that. I can see that the one you posted could be an homage.

Ok, that new pic of Angron has insured that I'll get him, expensive bastard that I'm sure he'll be


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/10 04:35:53


Post by: Voss


...granted, even the metals at the time didn't look like that. I can see that the one you posted could be an homage.


There were actually 3 different heads for the metals (well, the RoC-era metal models, that are what's now daemon prince sized)

There was a dog faced one with a picklehaube helmet (like in the picture, but without the side horns), but the dog's jaws were closed and it wasn't a particularly good sculpt. The other helmeted head was worse- really the only good head was the skull. They're in the color photos in StD (same book as the page you posted), the dog head is featured in a battle between world eaters and ultramarines (page 165, but its un-numbered)


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/10 05:44:51


Post by: Gitkikka


Voss wrote:
...granted, even the metals at the time didn't look like that. I can see that the one you posted could be an homage.


There were actually 3 different heads for the metals (well, the RoC-era metal models, that are what's now daemon prince sized)

There was a dog faced one with a picklehaube helmet (like in the picture, but without the side horns), but the dog's jaws were closed and it wasn't a particularly good sculpt. The other helmeted head was worse- really the only good head was the skull. They're in the color photos in StD (same book as the page you posted), the dog head is featured in a battle between world eaters and ultramarines (page 165, but its un-numbered)


Would you believe six different heads (I have all but the one with the bat winged helmet - I might have a hoarding problem)?


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/10 20:48:46


Post by: Garukadon


Carlovonsexron wrote:
Garukadon wrote:
Nothing’s changed with the player base here I see. Always something to be unhappy about.

Angron looks too much like a bloodthirster? So what? -the model looks awesome!

Angron with a bunch of bloodthirsters on the table would look like an AoS army, which I think would look great.


By complaining about the complainers, you're feeding into the cycle!

Just let other people dislike it as much as you do like it- it doesn't really matter either way.


I’m complaining? Or telling people what to do and not to do? Look at you bossing me around telling me what I should do! I don’t need your permission, son, or approval.

Haha anyways... Looking forward to seeing the updated WE Zerkers. Add a Lord of Skulls to the mix. The thematic look of this army will look striking. Double neato points if the new dex will include the usage of Bloodthirsters.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 09:42:53


Post by: charles_the_dead_lizzard


The only thing that bugs me about Angron is simply that the face deviates too much from the Art and HH Model. The chin looks too wide and remembers more of Thanos rather than of Angron. Despite this, it is an awesome Model I look forward to see on the table.

I am also really Curious what units we will see in the Rooster for WE. The Leak also shows the Wing of a Blood Thirster in the background. This could make WE the first God-Allegiant-Legion to use Deamons.

It is a tough spot to build a World Eater army right now. Not knowing what units can be reused from CSM is really an unpleasant thing. While I am confident that we will see Rhinos, Land Raiders and Mauler Fiends, I assume that Terminators get dropped for a new faction specific counterpart. What about Hellturkeys? Tearing down planes in Meele from the Skies is 100% Khorne, meanwhile I wouldn’t say that I am certain to see them survive the transition. I hate this state :/


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 12:17:01


Post by: Dysartes


Garukadon wrote:Haha anyways... Looking forward to seeing the updated WE Zerkers. Add a Lord of Skulls to the mix. The thematic look of this army will look striking. Double neato points if the new dex will include the usage of Bloodthirsters.

Given how the DG book is structured, I wouldn't bet on any in-Codex Daemons aside from the Daemon Prince.

charles_the_dead_lizzard wrote:The only thing that bugs me about Angron is simply that the face deviates too much from the Art and HH Model. The chin looks too wide and remembers more of Thanos rather than of Angron. Despite this, it is an awesome Model I look forward to see on the table.

I am also really Curious what units we will see in the Rooster for WE. The Leak also shows the Wing of a Blood Thirster in the background. This could make WE the first God-Allegiant-Legion to use Deamons.

It is a tough spot to build a World Eater army right now. Not knowing what units can be reused from CSM is really an unpleasant thing. While I am confident that we will see Rhinos, Land Raiders and Mauler Fiends, I assume that Terminators get dropped for a new faction specific counterpart. What about Hellturkeys? Tearing down planes in Meele from the Skies is 100% Khorne, meanwhile I wouldn’t say that I am certain to see them survive the transition. I hate this state :/


Using the Death Guard book as a template, I'd be reasonably confident on seeing the following, and less confident on others - I'm not going to rule anything out 100%, though, aside from the other Cult units:
- World Eaters Daemon Prince
- Kharn
- World Eaters Chaos Lord
- World Eaters Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour
- Khorne Berserkers
- Helbrute (or World Eaters Helbrute)
- World Eaters Possessed
- Chaos Spawn
- Chaos Land Raider
- Chaos Rhino
- Chaos Predator (both variants)
- Defiler
- Angron

I'd also throw in "World Eaters Terrain Piece" and some form of "World Eaters Cultists", too. Probably the Master of Executions too, thinking about it.

After that, I think we're outside of "inherited unit territory" and into "new World Eaters units" space.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 12:20:45


Post by: Gir Spirit Bane


I bet we'll see 40k Khorne Juggernaut unit and Khornigors


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 12:22:04


Post by: Platuan4th


 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
I bet we'll see 40k Khorne Juggernaut unit and Khornigors


Khorngors, no i.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 12:22:45


Post by: Dysartes


 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
I bet we'll see 40k Khorne Juggernaut unit and Khornigors

No, not ruling them out at all - I was just thinking about what units might make the jump from the current CSM book into the forthcoming World Eaters book.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 12:31:40


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Please no Khorngors, I bet you. That would mean every single boxed kit with World Eaters would be 5-6 Marines and 20-30 Khorngors, from now until the end of time.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 12:37:52


Post by: Cypher226


Looking at the leaked image it looks like there's some kind of unit with two-handed weapons in the background.

Following the DG template, there may be a whole raft of new characters. The Red Butchers seem to have fast become an iconic heresy unit so wouldn't be surprised to see a truly corrupted 41st Millennium version.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 12:42:53


Post by: Malika2


I know it won’t happen, but I’d still love to see close combat Defilers ridden into combat by Khorne Berzerkers


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 13:15:37


Post by: blood reaper


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Please no Khorngors, I bet you. That would mean every single boxed kit with World Eaters would be 5-6 Marines and 20-30 Khorngors, from now until the end of time.


Tbf I blame this on the fact the Thousand Sons lack a large range of figures to actually put in those boxes.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 13:33:09


Post by: GaroRobe


There is a khorne terminator lord coming with the new Warhammer + Subscription, and since the previous models have all been real units, its not out of the realm of possibilities there will be a stand alone kit.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 13:59:24


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 blood reaper wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Please no Khorngors, I bet you. That would mean every single boxed kit with World Eaters would be 5-6 Marines and 20-30 Khorngors, from now until the end of time.


Tbf I blame this on the fact the Thousand Sons lack a large range of figures to actually put in those boxes.


And personally I doubt that World Eaters are going to get much more, tbh.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 14:15:07


Post by: gorgon


charles_the_dead_lizzard wrote:
The only thing that bugs me about Angron is simply that the face deviates too much from the Art and HH Model. The chin looks too wide and remembers more of Thanos rather than of Angron. Despite this, it is an awesome Model I look forward to see on the table.


I dunno. The novels talk about Angron's fanged maw --undoubtedly a nod to the WE symbol also -- and IIRC he actually *eats* enemy combatants on at least one occasion. So I get the thinking regarding giving him a large mouth and therefore jaw to go with it. Alt heads are definitely possible too.



World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 14:19:29


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I just want the Slaughterbrute to be part of the 'Dex.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 14:23:43


Post by: blood reaper


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 blood reaper wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Please no Khorngors, I bet you. That would mean every single boxed kit with World Eaters would be 5-6 Marines and 20-30 Khorngors, from now until the end of time.


Tbf I blame this on the fact the Thousand Sons lack a large range of figures to actually put in those boxes.


And personally I doubt that World Eaters are going to get much more, tbh.


Well, the Death Guard did, which is why I am semi-confident in the potential for the WB to get more stuff.

IMO the TS design manifesto really did not seem to take into account the approach of 8th (i.e., that all the legions would be broken off into their own books with their own unique figures), because when all their models were released the TS were part of the CSM army.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 14:27:23


Post by: ImAGeek


I think DG did because they were the bad guy faction in the starter for the edition. Necrons got a lot too. I’d hope WE get more than TS, but I think they’ll be closer to them than the Death Guard.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 15:00:33


Post by: Garrac


Yall are just suposing khorngors would be useless on the new codex. Don't forget GW's rule of "newest model gets best rules"


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 15:01:24


Post by: ImAGeek


Which is one of those ‘rules’ with as many exceptions as examples following it.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 15:04:47


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Garrac wrote:
Yall are just suposing khorngors would be useless on the new codex. Don't forget GW's rule of "newest model gets best rules"


We're supposing people who want to run a WE army will want to run an army composed of World Eaters, instead of armies in the style of classic TSons boxed set of "Five Marines and thirty goats".


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/11 15:21:43


Post by: Geifer


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Garrac wrote:
Yall are just suposing khorngors would be useless on the new codex. Don't forget GW's rule of "newest model gets best rules"


We're supposing people who want to run a WE army will want to run an army composed of World Eaters, instead of armies in the style of classic TSons boxed set of "Five Marines and thirty goats".


Birds. But I bet Emperor's Children would love to have six goats for each Marine.

Rules roulette and future army boxes aside, I'd be more worried that Khorne's dog soldiers will get the classic Plague Marine treatment with a box of eight for the price of ten. That initial leaked picture is not a good sign.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/29 08:54:16


Post by: Garrac


Seeing the lack of more leaks, I would say WE won't come until later this year- or the next


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/29 09:42:19


Post by: The Red Hobbit


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Please no Khorngors, I bet you. That would mean every single boxed kit with World Eaters would be 5-6 Marines and 20-30 Khorngors, from now until the end of time.


Yeah I'd prefer just boxes of Marines myself. Although I wouldn't be surprised if they take the chaos beastmen from BSF and throw them in WE.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/29 10:43:11


Post by: ImAGeek


 The Red Hobbit wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Please no Khorngors, I bet you. That would mean every single boxed kit with World Eaters would be 5-6 Marines and 20-30 Khorngors, from now until the end of time.


Yeah I'd prefer just boxes of Marines myself. Although I wouldn't be surprised if they take the chaos beastmen from BSF and throw them in WE.


I would be, there’s a whole 2 models and they aren’t even available anymore.

Edit: BSF is actually still around, turns out, but I’d still be very surprised unless we got a separate box as said below. Even then, they aren’t specifically Khorne, they’d likely just be chaos in general.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/29 10:46:10


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 ImAGeek wrote:
 The Red Hobbit wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Please no Khorngors, I bet you. That would mean every single boxed kit with World Eaters would be 5-6 Marines and 20-30 Khorngors, from now until the end of time.


Yeah I'd prefer just boxes of Marines myself. Although I wouldn't be surprised if they take the chaos beastmen from BSF and throw them in WE.


I would be, there’s a whole 2 models and they aren’t even available anymore.


I'd like to see a box of 10 of those. Could be used for both world eaters chaff troops and chaos guard melee troops.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/29 10:56:59


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 The Red Hobbit wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Please no Khorngors, I bet you. That would mean every single boxed kit with World Eaters would be 5-6 Marines and 20-30 Khorngors, from now until the end of time.


Yeah I'd prefer just boxes of Marines myself. Although I wouldn't be surprised if they take the chaos beastmen from BSF and throw them in WE.


I would be, there’s a whole 2 models and they aren’t even available anymore.


I'd like to see a box of 10 of those. Could be used for both world eaters chaff troops and chaos guard melee troops.


I don't see why they would go for it, realistically, given we already have Chaos Cultists with an identical loadout.


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/29 11:26:51


Post by: tneva82


same goes for poxwalkers and tzaangors


World Eaters news and rumours. Skulls for the Skull Throne! @ 2022/07/29 21:00:59


Post by: DreadfullyHopeful


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 The Red Hobbit wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Please no Khorngors, I bet you. That would mean every single boxed kit with World Eaters would be 5-6 Marines and 20-30 Khorngors, from now until the end of time.


Yeah I'd prefer just boxes of Marines myself. Although I wouldn't be surprised if they take the chaos beastmen from BSF and throw them in WE.


I would be, there’s a whole 2 models and they aren’t even available anymore.


I'd like to see a box of 10 of those. Could be used for both world eaters chaff troops and chaos guard melee troops.


I don't see why they would go for it, realistically, given we already have Chaos Cultists with an identical loadout.


I'm hopping khorngors will have some funky melee weapons options. And that they'll be playable in AOS's beast of chaos in a reverse Tzaangor fashion.