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Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:13:36


Post by: jspyd3rx


Who's the salamander? Is that Terminator ARMOR?

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Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:15:18


Post by: Drakheart


I'm thinking this....



Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:17:00


Post by: Toofast


So they're both chaos? Easy pass for me this year, especially since the content last year was underwhelming


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:17:11


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


100% that. This years freebie is a total no-brainer for me.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:18:08


Post by: jspyd3rx


Toofast wrote:
So they're both chaos? Easy pass for me this year, especially since the content last year was underwhelming

It's a salamander in terminator armor for sure.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:18:22


Post by: Geifer


I'm glad we get to see the silhouettes again. How terrible it would be to actually show us the models.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:19:59


Post by: Toofast


 jspyd3rx wrote:
Toofast wrote:
So they're both chaos? Easy pass for me this year, especially since the content last year was underwhelming

It's a salamander in terminator armor for sure.


Well I don't play them either so still an easy pass for me...


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:20:51


Post by: zamerion


 jspyd3rx wrote:
Toofast wrote:
So they're both chaos? Easy pass for me this year, especially since the content last year was underwhelming

It's a salamander in terminator armor for sure.


the salamander shoulder pad isnt from the miniature..

The termi is from khorne.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:21:50


Post by: Mentlegen324


When I look at the Warhammer Community site this article isn't on the front page or in the "all latest news and features" section, how do people get these articles before they show there?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:22:41


Post by: zamerion


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
When I look at the Warhammer Community site this article isn't on the front page or in the "all latest news and features" section, how do people get these articles before they show there?


facebook or twitter are faster.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:27:12


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Geifer wrote:
I'm glad we get to see the silhouettes again. How terrible it would be to actually show us the models.


We’re promised a proper reveal next week


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:29:30


Post by: xttz


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
When I look at the Warhammer Community site this article isn't on the front page or in the "all latest news and features" section, how do people get these articles before they show there?


Articles go up roughly on the hour, and if you click into "All news" on Articles > News and Features it can list them before the main page updates.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:34:06


Post by: Voss


 Geifer wrote:
I'm glad we get to see the silhouettes again. How terrible it would be to actually show us the models.

Right? We know what they are- the mystery left the building long ago.

Depending on how good they are. this might actually be tempting. I aggressively don't care about apps (they're actually negative value to me, because I hate the effects app-based play has on tabletop games), but model plus voucher plus shows plus vault could be worthwhile, if the models are good. (not having to wait a year is also a positive change)




 Mentlegen324 wrote:
When I look at the Warhammer Community site this article isn't on the front page or in the "all latest news and features" section, how do people get these articles before they show there?

GW somehow makes the facebook/twitter links live before the article is up on the front page of WarCom (but is still live on the site). Its... weird. Like the WarCom article status automation is five minutes behind, and they've just never bothered to correct it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:52:01


Post by: Lobokai


anyone know when they're shipping season 1's models?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:55:09


Post by: beast_gts


 Lobukia wrote:
anyone know when they're shipping season 1's models?
They started a while back. If you've not had an email, go to the web store and see if they're showing up for you there (once you've logged in).


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:56:01


Post by: The Phazer


I was really hoping that they might say something to the effect of "we will actually spend some money fixing the apps this year" because the half finished TV video apps really felt like they were a Minimum Viable Product that needed another three months work and have had no updates since and Warhammer Vault is basically unusable.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 15:58:17


Post by: Eldarsif


 Lobukia wrote:
anyone know when they're shipping season 1's models?


A while back. Already got mine.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 16:00:39


Post by: xttz


beast_gts wrote:
 Lobukia wrote:
anyone know when they're shipping season 1's models?
They started a while back. If you've not had an email, go to the web store and see if they're showing up for you there (once you've logged in).


People who had a subscription to the app before WH+ was announced could order the models after 9 months. Everyone else has to wait 12. Mine shows as available to order from 27/8

This time around anyone who takes out an annual subscription can get the new models after the first month though.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 16:30:47


Post by: Toofast


 The Phazer wrote:
I was really hoping that they might say something to the effect of "we will actually spend some money fixing the apps this year" because the half finished TV video apps really felt like they were a Minimum Viable Product that needed another three months work and have had no updates since and Warhammer Vault is basically unusable.


They don't even have the army builder portion of the app fixed, which was mostly the reason for the app existing. Not only are GW totally incompetent with technology, they can't even seem to find a contractor that isn't to build out their apps.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 17:28:02


Post by: pgmason


 Lobukia wrote:
anyone know when they're shipping season 1's models?


Note if you're on a monthly sub you actually have to order the model on the webstore, even though its free - they don't just send it out automatically. I found this out when I logged in to my account to see if there was an estimated dispatch date. I presume it's tricky to automate on the back-end in case people stop and start their subscription or something. I don't know if its the same for annual subs.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 17:36:21


Post by: tneva82


Odds are you need to do something seeing you will get email regarding it toward end of month


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 17:47:10


Post by: BrookM


Chaos terminator does look dope, but on the fence as to renew or not, as current trickle of content has been very hit or miss for me.

Didn't they promise vouchers and more exclusive stuff before though? Or was that just more of the "spend X-amount and get a small voucher later" sort of deal again?

Also, more apps? I'd wish they'd make that stuff Chromebook compatible, then it'd be worth it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 18:00:50


Post by: tneva82


Interesting annual subbers get it after month. Nice change


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 18:05:19


Post by: The Red Hobbit


Warhammer+ Year 2? Wow has it really been a year since Warhammer+ released? Time flies..


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 21:53:16


Post by: Chikout


For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.

Here in Japan where buying the special mini separately would be more than half the price of an annual sub, it's actually a pretty good deal. I wish they'd just show the full minis. Maybe they are planning another preview show.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 22:22:48


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Oh my God, get on with it! You can't tease the same model twice and show nothing more the second time than you did the first one, several months before!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/10 22:26:30


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I'm somewhat reminded of the current situation with the various SW Disney+ shows that are filming - specifically Ahsoka and Mando Season 3.

We know these shows/models are coming. Stop pussyfooting around and just tell us who's in the cast/what these things actually are. Their existence isn't a surprise, so get on with it. It wouldn't certain save time with actors being forced to give vague answers in interviews/endless silhouette previews for things we already know about.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 05:58:02


Post by: tneva82


Chikout wrote:
For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.

Here in Japan where buying the special mini separately would be more than half the price of an annual sub, it's actually a pretty good deal. I wish they'd just show the full minis. Maybe they are planning another preview show.


The "review show" is likely just article. They said you see them next week. Okay would be nice to see sooner but week isn't that long.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 07:17:17


Post by: Geifer


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm somewhat reminded of the current situation with the various SW Disney+ shows that are filming - specifically Ahsoka and Mando Season 3.

We know these shows/models are coming. Stop pussyfooting around and just tell us who's in the cast/what these things actually are. Their existence isn't a surprise, so get on with it. It wouldn't certain save time with actors being forced to give vague answers in interviews/endless silhouette previews for things we already know about.


I don't follow Disney marketing, but if I were to apply GW's approach to it, Mando is supposed to come in February, which is still half a year away and they have Andor and Bad Batch to hype in the meantime. You could argue it's just the company not getting ahead of itself.

Meanwhile we're two weeks away from people being able to subscribe to Warhammer+ for the second year, and it will be less than that next week when GW wants to reveal the models. It's the most Kirbyesque GW has been about showing models since, well, you know. It's also a completely different approach to what they did last year when they revealed the models as perks of a subscription.

It's really kind of bogus, like Warhammer+ isn't doing well enough and the model reveal a week before year two is supposed to boost it with some impulse subscriptions.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 08:25:14


Post by: Tavis75


Where do I have to go on the GW site to order the subscriber model from last year? I assumed it would just be sent out automatically.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 08:28:21


Post by: beast_gts


Tavis75 wrote:
Where do I have to go on the GW site to order the subscriber model from last year? I assumed it would just be sent out automatically.


https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/operative-umbral-six-2022
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/orruk-warclans-bazdrogg-nekk-choppa-2022


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 08:29:10


Post by: xttz


Tavis75 wrote:
Where do I have to go on the GW site to order the subscriber model from last year? I assumed it would just be sent out automatically.




I assume they don't just ship them automatically in case people have changed address in the last 12 months.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 08:32:21


Post by: tneva82


that's actually fair reason for why they didn't automatically ship. I had been wondering as I thought they initially said they ship automatically.

Guess they could send email to please update default address some time before sending but automation has all sorts of issues. Maybe person is unavailable to respond in time for example.

I'll give benefit of doubt on that one that it's GW actually thinking about it


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 08:40:50


Post by: beast_gts


 xttz wrote:
I assume they don't just ship them automatically in case people have changed address in the last 12 months.
Or if people want to buy the other one.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 10:10:26


Post by: gianlucafiorentini123


They could really do with doing some work on the vault, in its current state it’s border line unusable, long loading times without a save your spot feature accompanied by the pages refreshing if you ever click off them.

Ideally they would have an app similar to kindle where you can download the book you are interested in, and read throw it at your leisure.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 10:14:54


Post by: Billicus


Yeah just being able to filter it by game system or universe or filter out all the old white dwarves etc would be a good start.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 11:59:06


Post by: Gimgamgoo


Chikout wrote:
For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.

We know what they'll do. The content just won't get shown, or more likely, we'll never see those White Dwarfs on W+.

I for one would love to see all the older articles I enjoyed back in the print day, eg Traveller RPG adventures, extras for other RPGs that are now well out of print, how to make terrain articles etc. WD used to be such a good magazine before it was a paid advert.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/11 12:07:32


Post by: Chikout


 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Chikout wrote:
For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.

We know what they'll do. The content just won't get shown, or more likely, we'll never see those White Dwarfs on W+.

I for one would love to see all the older articles I enjoyed back in the print day, eg Traveller RPG adventures, extras for other RPGs that are now well out of print, how to make terrain articles etc. WD used to be such a good magazine before it was a paid advert.


Have you read it recently? It's not really a paid advert any more. They don't cover the new releases at all. I think it's a pretty good magazine these days, not worth the price they charge for it now but as part of Warhammer+ it's solid.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/12 14:55:07


Post by: Danny76


 jspyd3rx wrote:
Toofast wrote:
So they're both chaos? Easy pass for me this year, especially since the content last year was underwhelming

It's a salamander in terminator armor for sure.


It’s for sure chaos.

And 99% based ok that art with the silhouette being an almost exact match.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/12 18:19:34


Post by: tneva82


 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Chikout wrote:
For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.

We know what they'll do. The content just won't get shown, or more likely, we'll never see those White Dwarfs on W+.

I for one would love to see all the older articles I enjoyed back in the print day, eg Traveller RPG adventures, extras for other RPGs that are now well out of print, how to make terrain articles etc. WD used to be such a good magazine before it was a paid advert.


Have to say gw has very curious paid advert strategy advertising long time ago releases.

Usually paid ad's are for new releases. Guess gw messed up eh?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/12 18:53:16


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Danny76 wrote:
 jspyd3rx wrote:
Toofast wrote:
So they're both chaos? Easy pass for me this year, especially since the content last year was underwhelming

It's a salamander in terminator armor for sure.


It’s for sure chaos.

And 99% based ok that art with the silhouette being an almost exact match.


I think there’s confusion here. The stack of three images do not all show the one thing.

The Salamander bit is from an upcoming animation. And it’s doesn’t relate to the next two images, which I think we’re all confident are a Chaos Terminator modelled after a piece of classic artwork.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/12 20:23:38


Post by: Toofast


Anyone who thinks that termi silhouette is Salamanders is gonna be really disappointed. I am curious about their decision for 2 chaos models this year. I've never had an interest in playing any form of chaos in AoS or 40k. I thought last year was genius to use an assassin as any imperial player can use him, so he might not just sit on a shelf for 30 years collecting dust.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/13 01:24:14


Post by: Danny76


True. But I think they are very much also about just being ‘special pieces’ more than usable.
A fantasy Orc is only usable by one lot of people anyway.
Obviously it’s great when usable too, but it’s like the Games Day models, they brought them out just with the whole fomo I guess.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/13 02:27:52


Post by: Toofast


Also I just want to scream into the void about how useless it is to put old rulebooks on the app without any of the rule content. That was ostensibly most of the point of those books, right?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/13 08:57:00


Post by: Geifer


Campaign books are about both fluff and rules. Of course the rules are no longer supported, so they get cut. Which is stupid, but what are you going to do?

It seems that GW's intent with the exclusive models is to tie them into the year of Chaos they're doing. New Chaos Marines, new Warcry, new Daemons book, new Slaves to Darkness. Would more universally usable models be better for more people? Sure. But since they have a theme for the year, it seems they want to tie in the exclusives as well.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/13 09:31:40


Post by: Chikout


Toofast wrote:
Also I just want to scream into the void about how useless it is to put old rulebooks on the app without any of the rule content. That was ostensibly most of the point of those books, right?

The vast majority of the books are campaign books which are usually 50% lore and 50% rules. Obviously they could have just put up the whole book but an expanding compilation of old gw lore is a pretty good thing to have not to mention all the great art those books included. There are rumours of a vault app which would make those things much easier to access. I've said it before but the vault is the reason I'm going to continue my subscription.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 14:52:18


Post by: Danny76


Endtimes was probably 80% lore 20% rules.
Not that that went well for us.
But very lore heavy some books are.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 15:56:49


Post by: Toofast


Anyone know the deadline to sign up if you want the assassin? Just saw his ebay price is more than the sub.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:02:43


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


And here they are.


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Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:03:54


Post by: MonkeyBallistic


It’s a tougher choice this year for me. I really like them both.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:06:18


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Yeah. Having the Familars has narrowed it considerably. But even at £26, I’m not sure I’d feel let down by paying for either of them.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:15:14


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Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:19:15


Post by: jullevi


Toofast wrote:
Anyone know the deadline to sign up if you want the assassin? Just saw his ebay price is more than the sub.


I believe it was end of July, ie. two weeks ago.

I think it's bit of duck move to send year one miniatures to new subscribers when majority of day one subscribers are still waiting for the opportunity to pick theirs.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:22:56


Post by: TalonZahn


I know I complain occasionally about crap looking minis GW makes sometimes, so...

They straight nailed that Terminator. It might be one of the All Time Best IMHO.

Sculpt, Pose, Paint.../Chef's Kiss

Sorc looks good, but it's the Familiars that sell that setup.

Nice work all around, but that Terminator....


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:27:29


Post by: Shadow Walker


I like both minis. Much better than the previous two.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:38:23


Post by: bullyboy


That terminator is literally amazing, and the paint job…..damn.
Seriously impressed.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:38:51


Post by: chaos0xomega


It's a tough choice for me. I dislike them both equally.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:52:06


Post by: Voss


Chaos sorceress looks great. Halo is a bit much, but easily detached. I like the look of someone trying for power but falling to chaos mutation.

The terminator... eh. It reminds me of the SoB character model from the artwork. Knowing they were going to do this model, I'd hope they'd avoid the pitfalls of doing a 1 to 1 art to model transition, and do some finesse updates. Alas, no.

So it just looks clunky and more than a bit silly- the gun and the fist definitely don't help- it looks like someone plucked most of the legs of the spider, rather than fingers. And the pose makes the standard terminator shoulder problem even worse. No idea what the elongated genestealer head is about.

And I get that the KT space hulk thing is coming. But this minimal basing thing for 40k models is starting to feel weird. This isn't ship debris, just a couple rocks and some gravel on barely painted plastic.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:56:05


Post by: JWBS


The SoB was much better.

/Edit - unless you mean Veridyan, in which case I agree.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 16:58:17


Post by: Gadzilla666


Aaannndd... ..coming straight outa 1996....AZRAKH THE ANNIHILATORRRRR!!!!!!

Nice! Killer model from some classic artwork. And possibly the best paintjob that the 'Eavy Metal team has done in a long time, IMHO.

Still not worth subbing to Warhammer+, though.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 17:11:24


Post by: Memnoch


Think I might end up buying the other one of year two to be honest.

Still debating doing the same with the Assassin from Year 1 as well if it might be worth something further down the line.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 17:27:38


Post by: Geifer


I like the Terminator, aside from the dreadful paintjob. Not big on the sorcerer. The familiars are the real highlight here, but I'm not sure they're enough to sway me. But I think I can stay subscribed for the Terminator.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 17:30:12


Post by: Dysartes


 Geifer wrote:
I like the Terminator, aside from the dreadful paintjob.

...what?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 17:37:08


Post by: KidCthulhu


The sorceress is okay, but those familiars are amazing! I have the original version of both the hooded scroll carrier and the little warrior (mine is named Mr. Stabby and he belongs to my repurposed Aekold Hellbrass). The fish thing and the walking cauldron are nice too.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 17:37:36


Post by: Geifer


 Dysartes wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
I like the Terminator, aside from the dreadful paintjob.

...what?


Technically proficient but done in a style I dislike immensely, and pretty overdone at that.

I know why they painted him like that. I don't like how it looks, though.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 17:46:50


Post by: Ohman


So, how do I get these? Take out a one year subscription?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 17:51:28


Post by: Daedalus81


jullevi wrote:
Toofast wrote:
Anyone know the deadline to sign up if you want the assassin? Just saw his ebay price is more than the sub.


I believe it was end of July, ie. two weeks ago.

I think it's bit of duck move to send year one miniatures to new subscribers when majority of day one subscribers are still waiting for the opportunity to pick theirs.


Huh? You just go on the website and get it. You don't wait for it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 18:01:40


Post by: MonkeyBallistic


 Daedalus81 wrote:
jullevi wrote:
Toofast wrote:
Anyone know the deadline to sign up if you want the assassin? Just saw his ebay price is more than the sub.


I believe it was end of July, ie. two weeks ago.

I think it's bit of duck move to send year one miniatures to new subscribers when majority of day one subscribers are still waiting for the opportunity to pick theirs.


Huh? You just go on the website and get it. You don't wait for it.


Yes, but some of us are still waiting for the opportunity to do that. I, for example, can’t claim mine until the 25th (despite subscribing literally from day one).


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 18:07:19


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Ohman wrote:
So, how do I get these? Take out a one year subscription?


Annual Sub to get them soon, or 12 consecutive monthly subs.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 18:13:39


Post by: Denny


That Terminator is so beautifully painted.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 18:22:58


Post by: Voss


JWBS wrote:
The SoB was much better.

/Edit - unless you mean Veridyan, in which case I agree.

Yep. Veridyan.

Art directly to model doesn't work very well. Needs a concept art and reality check phase for what works in very stylized fantasy art and what works on a 3d model.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 18:35:27


Post by: silverstu


I do like the little familiars but not a chaos fan generally so not tempted.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 18:39:05


Post by: Ohman


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Ohman wrote:
So, how do I get these? Take out a one year subscription?


Annual Sub to get them soon, or 12 consecutive monthly subs.


Sorry for asking you rather than GW but I tried and could only choose between the Assassin and the Orc Boss. I guess I just wait awhile until the new miniatures are live?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 18:42:29


Post by: xttz


 Ohman wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Ohman wrote:
So, how do I get these? Take out a one year subscription?


Annual Sub to get them soon, or 12 consecutive monthly subs.


Sorry for asking you rather than GW but I tried and could only choose between the Assassin and the Orc Boss. I guess I just wait awhile until the new miniatures are live?


If you mean the two new chaos models, those are available for subscribing in year 2 (from the end of this month)


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 18:57:10


Post by: Ohman


 xttz wrote:
 Ohman wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Ohman wrote:
So, how do I get these? Take out a one year subscription?


Annual Sub to get them soon, or 12 consecutive monthly subs.


Sorry for asking you rather than GW but I tried and could only choose between the Assassin and the Orc Boss. I guess I just wait awhile until the new miniatures are live?


If you mean the two new chaos models, those are available for subscribing in year 2 (from the end of this month)


So If I sign up in September I can get the new ones, alright then. I wonder If there is a way to get the models for both years? Or will this years models be retired when the new ones are "released".


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 19:07:38


Post by: Toofast


So if I sub by the Aug 31st, I get the assassin?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 19:09:51


Post by: Voss


From the article, the new ones seem to be the option now and the year one options have passed
And if you signed up for an annual subscription for Warhammer+ by the end of July, you can claim your exclusive Year One miniature in August. You’ll receive an email within the next week (if you haven’t already had one) to let you know that your free miniature is ready to order from the Games Workshop webstore.


And from the previous article, being subbed at the end of August (25th-31st) and sticking through september also gets you a voucher.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/10/warhammer-year-two-is-nearly-here-get-ready-for-even-more-warhammer/

It could be a little more clear and laid out plainly, but if you're going to do it, it seems like the last couple days of august are the best time.



Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 20:20:15


Post by: Gordy2000


That terminator is incredible - a beautifully faithful realisation of a classic piece of art.

That mini and the Warhammer Vault will be worth the subscription for me this year.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 20:21:44


Post by: endlesswaltz123


I'm fairly confident they outsourced the paint job, I wonder who they got to paint it?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 20:26:11


Post by: Olthannon


Those minis really make it bloody worth it for year 2. Fair play.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 20:50:17


Post by: Tallonian4th


As a non-Chaos player the models are no draw to me to re-subscribe. I do think it was a bit of an odd move to tie both models to Chaos you cut off anyone who isn't a Chaos player. I've really enjoyed year one. The video content, while slow to release, has been good particularly the Battle Reports and Painting Masterclass. Add in the models and vouchers and the sub has been worth it. The Vault is a nice addition. The 40K app however is dire and is of no value.

Now if the Vault was actually useable it would go from a nice addition to probably a majority of the value of the sub. If they bothered to get anyone to take a look at and fix the 40K app it would be worth considering as part of the subs value. In this case even not liking the models I'd likely re-sub but as it is the whole thing without the models is a nice idea not quite executed properly.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 21:11:38


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Mark Gibbons comments on this model:

MG Artworks on Facebook wrote:Painted a mere 28 years ago, I think (the previously unnamed) Azrakh the Annihilator is my most-published Games Workshop piece, but it's a painting that almost never happened.

I submitted his sketch as a freelance commission to GW and when John Blanche reviewed it he asked for a more dynamic, arms-raised, posture. In a 'deeply uncharacteristic' fit of pique, I said if I couldn't paint him the way I wanted to, then I wasn't going to paint him at all!

John, not wanting to escalate my diva moment to Beyoncé-like proportions, relented and all these years later Azrakh strides onto the tabletop, courtesy of the warp-powered sculpting & painting masters within the GW Design Studio.


It's a fantastic realisation of the artwork - the cover of my fav issue of WD of all time! - and I will find a way to obtain this...



Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 21:46:43


Post by: Shakalooloo


Tallonian4th wrote:
As a non-Chaos player the models are no draw to me to re-subscribe. I do think it was a bit of an odd move to tie both models to Chaos you cut off anyone who isn't a Chaos player. I've really enjoyed year one. The video content, while slow to release, has been good particularly the Battle Reports and Painting Masterclass. Add in the models and vouchers and the sub has been worth it. The Vault is a nice addition. The 40K app however is dire and is of no value.

Now if the Vault was actually useable it would go from a nice addition to probably a majority of the value of the sub. If they bothered to get anyone to take a look at and fix the 40K app it would be worth considering as part of the subs value. In this case even not liking the models I'd likely re-sub but as it is the whole thing without the models is a nice idea not quite executed properly.


You can always sell the model on if you don't like it - there's bound to be demand for a limited edition model.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 22:02:17


Post by: JWBS


I'm surprised to read that's his most published piece. Yeah it's good and also well known but I can think of many (to my mind) more iconic works by MG.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 22:03:14


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


 Geifer wrote:
I like the Terminator, aside from the dreadful paintjob. Not big on the sorcerer. The familiars are the real highlight here, but I'm not sure they're enough to sway me. But I think I can stay subscribed for the Terminator.


I think you're going to have to clarify the things that make this paint job 'dreadful' here.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 22:21:17


Post by: alphaecho


JWBS wrote:
I'm surprised to read that's his most published piece. Yeah it's good and also well known but I can think of many (to my mind) more iconic works by MG.


I think it definitely received more exposure than some of his other work

It was a WD cover plus the work was the miniatures catalogue cover.

I wouldn't say my personal Mark Gibbons drawn favourites, the Catachan Captain and a Blood Axe Kommando, are iconic but I certainly consider them to be better than that Chaos Marine.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 22:44:48


Post by: GaroRobe


So with the sorceress, I think each familiar corresponds with one of the four Chaos Gods:

* The Cauldron has a khorne icon on the handle (weird for a magic user, but ok)

* The fishman is probably Nurgle

* The hooded scribe is Tzeentchian

* And is the warrior meant for Slaanesh?

That's kind of cool. I guess the old familiar of the naked lady may have been better for slaanesh, but I can see why they didn't do that one. Plus the lil knight is awesome


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 23:08:57


Post by: insaniak


That terminator is fantastic. A wonderful rendition of the artwork, and a pretty darn spectacular paint job.




Automatically Appended Next Post:
 GaroRobe wrote:
So with the sorceress, I think each familiar corresponds with one of the four Chaos Gods:

* The Cauldron has a khorne icon on the handle (weird for a magic user, but ok)

I think that's just a skull. It has the Nurgle spot triad on the cauldron itself. Wouldn't make much sense to represent either a Khornate sorcerer, or a familiar for same.

I don't think they're intended to line up with anything specifically. The little armoured dude and the scribe at least are resculpts from the original familiar range, which had a god-specific familiar for each (that just looked like a teeny tiny Greater Daemon) and a whole bunch of generic familiars.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 23:34:20


Post by: Boosykes


Terminator looks amazing paint job is near perfect.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The toad could actually be slanesh. As he is playing music and look his bush is the bigest. Seriously look between his legs.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 23:44:18


Post by: insaniak


Yeah, if I were to line them up, it would be the cauldron for Nurgle, toad for Slaanesh, scribe for Tzeentch and the warrior for Chaos Undivided.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/14 23:49:00


Post by: GaroRobe


 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, if I were to line them up, it would be the cauldron for Nurgle, toad for Slaanesh, scribe for Tzeentch and the warrior for Chaos Undivided.


If you look closely, the ladle in the mouth of the cauldron has a khorne skull icon on it.

Its easiest to see at the 0:28 mark




It could be just some generic skull, but it looks more like his symbol imo


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 00:03:44


Post by: Voss


Its a full (though small) skull. Well, missing the top, but full other than that. Easy to mistake, given the khorne rune is in the form of a skull outline.

Though really, the cauldron familiar eating a Ladle of Khorne has some nice symbolism.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 00:29:17


Post by: H.B.M.C.


The lack of walking book familiar is disappointing.

That one was always my fav.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 01:26:45


Post by: Chikout


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The lack of walking book familiar is disappointing.

That one was always my fav.


I’m actually pretty happy they didn’t copy the silver tower ones. They are still pretty easy to get on eBay and I already the two that came with the game. Two classic familiars and two new designs is also a nice balance.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 04:39:49


Post by: ImAGeek


queen_annes_revenge wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
I like the Terminator, aside from the dreadful paintjob. Not big on the sorcerer. The familiars are the real highlight here, but I'm not sure they're enough to sway me. But I think I can stay subscribed for the Terminator.


I think you're going to have to clarify the things that make this paint job 'dreadful' here.


Geifer wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
I like the Terminator, aside from the dreadful paintjob.

...what?


Technically proficient but done in a style I dislike immensely, and pretty overdone at that.

I know why they painted him like that. I don't like how it looks, though.



Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 06:15:03


Post by: JohnnyHell


Let’s not spend the thread discussing one guy’s take on the paint scheme. All art is subjective. He’s had his attention, move on!

For me the model and the paint job could scarcely be more perfect and close to the original art. Nailing the silhouette is a bonus. Stunning miniature.

Shame they won’t be brave enough to make a unit of them, and that I’ll never get one as it’s paywalled behind their poor attempt at a subscription streaming service. The content is just so weak.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 06:52:00


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


The flute tootin’ Familiar may also have solved an outstanding Rumour Engine?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 07:19:53


Post by: DaveC


I wasn’t sure but the addition of the familiars has convinced me to roll over the sub to year 2 I was also finally able to order the year 1 Megaboss this morning


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 09:08:44


Post by: GiToRaZor


Maybe noteworthy:

I never got the email that stated that I could order my Vindicare. I just checked out of curiosity and could just order it anyway. So if you are still waiting on the mail, just login on the store page and search for the model.

Btw.: If someone want's the Orruk model, but doesn't want to sign up for Warhammer+ PM me. 34€ + shipping. I still can order it until end of the month I think.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 10:04:36


Post by: BrookM


Thanks for the heads up, was originally supposed to wait until the 25th, but just now ordered mine, with a free pin thrown in as well.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 10:59:21


Post by: ekwatts


Yep, that terminator is absolutely perfect. I love how close it is to the artwork, I still love the design of the gun and I still think the chain-fingers are dumb but still somehow great.

I do not want a WH+ subscription but I do want that figure...


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 11:20:28


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Genuine thought.

At £60 for the year, is it not worth it for folk to sign up for the year, just to never have to deal with Scalpers?

You get one model priced at £26 part and parcel, access to some Good Background albeit In A Bad Format. I mean…at least then the excess money paid for the model is getting you something?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 11:40:27


Post by: tneva82


Plus voucher, apps, videos. If you want one or both models it's not that pricey. Largely why i subbed in the first place. As orruk appealed made price of rest small


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 11:50:54


Post by: BrookM


They say vouchers, what kind of are we talking here? More of the "spend money and get a voucher for x-amount spent" again?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 12:05:01


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


I'm willing to pay the annual sub for that termie. I'll check out the other stuff too, might as well.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 12:07:08


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 BrookM wrote:
They say vouchers, what kind of are we talking here? More of the "spend money and get a voucher for x-amount spent" again?


I honestly can’t remember. I think I got two. One a straight up voucher (early bird reward perhaps?) the other spend X get Y.

Sure you can only use them at GW, but pretty sure that’s how I paid for my Delaque expansion Gangers? And with Heresy offering Direct Only weapon sprues, I dare say GW only vouchers have an appeal today they’ve not had for a while?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 12:16:12


Post by: TheGoodGerman


 ekwatts wrote:
Yep, that terminator is absolutely perfect. I love how close it is to the artwork, I still love the design of the gun and I still think the chain-fingers are dumb but still somehow great.

I do not want a WH+ subscription but I do want that figure...

Hi, I‘m contemplating to subscribe after seeing the sorceress and am not interested in the termie, so… maybe contact me in about two weeks?

Still not really decided to pull the trigger, though.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 12:17:34


Post by: chaos0xomega


IIRC its just a straight up 10-pound (IIRC 15 USD) voucher for use on their webstore (does not work with forgeworld if I recall correctly). No minimum purchase sizes or anything.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 12:33:47


Post by: Overread


I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!



On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 12:38:51


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Overread wrote:
I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!



On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.


HBMC is in the market for the Terminator. I’m sure you guys can arrange something between yourselves


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 14:19:43


Post by: Overread


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Overread wrote:
I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!



On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.


HBMC is in the market for the Terminator. I’m sure you guys can arrange something between yourselves


Not yet sure if I'll sub for the year in one go or monthly. I've enough of a backlog that I don't "need" the model right now. So it could be mine doesn't appear for a year .


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 18:23:28


Post by: Jadenim


Overread wrote:I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!



On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.


Mine was saying the same thing and then I had an e-mail this evening allowing me to order it, so you might not have to wait all that long?

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Overread wrote:
I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!



On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.


HBMC is in the market for the Terminator. I’m sure you guys can arrange something between yourselves


I’m really not bothered about either model, so I’m on the fence about re subscribing, but I’m happy to consider an “arrangement” if anyone’s interested.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 20:26:03


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


I think I'm going to do the single payment next month before all the extra costs on my bills hit. Not bothered about doing the monthly one and I want the termie. I may even see about getting the other model later on, although I am not familiar what with its seemingly based on.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 20:43:10


Post by: Shakalooloo


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The lack of walking book familiar is disappointing.

That one was always my fav.


They did one of those in Silver Tower, and if you look under the sorcerer's foot, in place of a tactical rock she has a tome with TEETH.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/15 21:07:07


Post by: insaniak


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

At £60 for the year, is it not worth it for folk to sign up for the year, just to never have to deal with Scalpers?

I mean, it's a lovely model... But no, it's not 60 quid lovely.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 04:40:22


Post by: laam999


For all the talk of when you can order the current models (assassin) I had a check, mine says 30th, that seems like cutting it awfully fine.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 05:58:41


Post by: Jadenim


 laam999 wrote:
For all the talk of when you can order the current models (assassin) I had a check, mine says 30th, that seems like cutting it awfully fine.


I think the “ordering” is not the same as subscribing to be entitled to order it (which I think is where the deadline is)?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 08:27:00


Post by: Geifer


 insaniak wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

At £60 for the year, is it not worth it for folk to sign up for the year, just to never have to deal with Scalpers?

I mean, it's a lovely model... But no, it's not 60 quid lovely.


Just for the sake of avoiding misinformation or sloppiness, Warhammer+ is definitely less than that if you subscribe for the model and do the annual one. I can't check GBP prices, but it's 55€ for a yearly subscription and 11€ more if you subscribe for twelve individual months instead. The model is priced at 34€ (although I don't know it used to be from the start or has been subjected to February's price increase). If you get the annual subscription at the end of August, you'll get a 12€ voucher. If you're in it for the model and can make use of the voucher (which isn't hard, as the free shipping threshold is low these days and you can get an above 40% discount and free shipping on a clampack character), you're looking at 9€ for a year's access to the shows, vault and stuff.

Not trying to sell you on it or anything, just trying to get the facts straight. You'll know best if it's worth it to you or not. Me, I don't think the above is a terrible deal. Which is why I subscribed last year and will do so again this year.

On topic of scalpers, I very much doubt you'll get either of the models cheaper than if you go straight through GW. Although I think as suggested further up in the thread if you can find someone reliable who only wants the model you don't want, teaming up can be the cheapest way of getting your hands on the model. Though depending on whether such an arrangement involves postage, you may end up in the same region as the subscription without the extra benefits.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 08:57:50


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


On the site it says 'premium access to events'. Does anyone know what this means?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 09:07:17


Post by: TheGoodGerman


To those who have experience with W+:
I went to the subscription site to see if I can get the end-of-August voucher and one of the year 2 models. That seems not possible because it wants me to select the model when signing up, with ork and assassin being the only options.

So I guess I will have to wait until September to subscribe if I want the sorceress, missing out on the voucher.

Any ideas? Thanks!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, never mind - they’ve updated the text in the article. You have to subscribe on or after 25 August to get a year 2 mini.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 09:15:00


Post by: Geifer


The Vindicare and Orc should get retired and replaced by the Terminator and Sorceress on the 25th (the first day of the second year and the day the voucher promotion starts, see below), thus enabling you to subscribe with the choice of new models and get the voucher.

GW wrote:Bag a £10 Voucher
If you’re a new or existing subscriber with an active subscription between the 25th and 31st August, and you stay subscribed throughout September, you’ll get a £10 voucher to spend on the Games Workshop webstore, just like last year!*


I guess beginning of the last week of August is not the most memorable date for the customer, but that's what GW went with.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 09:18:07


Post by: GiToRaZor


TheGoodGerman wrote:
To those who have experience with W+:
I went to the subscription site to see if I can get the end-of-August voucher and one of the year 2 models. That seems not possible because it wants me to select the model when signing up, with ork and assassin being the only options.

So I guess I will have to wait until September to subscribe if I want the sorceress, missing out on the voucher.

Any ideas? Thanks!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, never mind - they’ve updated the text in the article. You have to subscribe on or after 25 August to get a year 2 mini.


Yeah but if you sign up now, you can get the Assissin/Orruk and then you only need to prolong your subscription next year by a single month and you get the Sorceress as well. Heck you might get it anyway right in September, because there are people who signed up in July already. I would not be surprised if their system actually doesn't notice that you are not directly entitled to the other one as well.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 09:37:07


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


£10 voucher? If it’s a straight, no-minimum spend? That’s a set of shooty Leviathan arms for a piffling £6.

I’m in!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 09:48:27


Post by: Geifer


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If it’s a straight, no-minimum spend?


That's what it was last year. To add the caveat from the same article I quoted above:

GW wrote:* This will be delivered via email in October, and must be spent by the 31st of October.


That was the only limitation last year, and that article says it's going to be the same this year.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 09:58:42


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Sweet. I know there’s an element of false economy, but so far that’s £36 I’m extracting from the overall cost, and as I enjoy the digital content (though as ever they really need to put the Vault into a proper reader format) I’m not gonna feel short changed.

Other opinions are of course available, and no less valid.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/16 10:25:51


Post by: laam999


 Jadenim wrote:
 laam999 wrote:
For all the talk of when you can order the current models (assassin) I had a check, mine says 30th, that seems like cutting it awfully fine.


I think the “ordering” is not the same as subscribing to be entitled to order it (which I think is where the deadline is)?


Ok, I know I didn't sign up day 1 but if they're pulling the old one end August I was worried I may miss it. It was pretty much the only reason I subbed.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 20:25:21


Post by: DaveC


The order pages for the minis are up

available from August 28th for year 1 renewals

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/25/celebrate-the-second-year-of-warhammer-with-a-10-voucher-if-you-subscribe-in-august/

If you subscribed on launch day in Year One and choose to renew, you will get your pick of these awesome miniatures from the 28th of August.*** Otherwise you will be able to take your pick on your renewal date.


https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/world-eater-azrakh-the-annihilator-2022



https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/mibyllorr-darkfang-chaos-sorcerer-lord-2022


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 20:33:35


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Toofast wrote:
Also I just want to scream into the void about how useless it is to put old rulebooks on the app without any of the rule content. That was ostensibly most of the point of those books, right?


The 3rd/4th editions of 40k had great codices for lore. The Oldcron codex is worth reading just for the atmosphere.

Similarly, for WHFB, 5th edition followed by the very different 6th/7th codices are fun to read to see how the setting evolved.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 20:36:08


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


I like how despite being based on such ancient artwork, he still has modern Terminator, er, anatomy.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 20:36:48


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


I purchased today. Wanted that termie. I wonder if the option exists for the purchase of additional models that you chose as the 'free' one aswell as the other option. Some good conversion potential.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 20:38:41


Post by: DaveC


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I purchased today. Wanted that termie. I wonder if the option exists for the purchase of additional models that you chose as the 'free' one aswell as the other option. Some good conversion potential.


Limited to one of each (cart restricts it to 1) so you can't double up on the option you picked as the free one.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 20:39:01


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Nope. Just the one per customer if it’s the same as last year.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 20:40:33


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


Damn.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 21:06:01


Post by: Platuan4th


Hmm... Won't let me order despite having a sub. My renewal doesn't get charged until Sunday, though, so it's probably tied to that.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 21:09:20


Post by: Kanluwen


You can't order until August 28th, even if you had a year 1 account.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 21:10:45


Post by: Overread


 Platuan4th wrote:
Hmm... Won't let me order despite having a sub. My renewal doesn't get charged until Sunday, though, so it's probably tied to that.


Yep the new ones won't ping for a lot of people until the 28th.

I'm on the monthly system so that's when I can place the order and make my choice, though I won't get it until this time next year.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 21:51:17


Post by: xttz


" To claim, subscribers will need to order their miniature or miniatures of choice through the webstore, and the miniatures will then be shipped and delivered as usual. "

"Warhammer+ subscribers who have selected this product as their free miniature will be entitled to FREE standard shipping on the order that contains this miniature."

So in theory, anyone with the annual subscription who waits until October 1st to place the order in the store can apply the £10 voucher to the other model, and get both at the same time for £14 with free shipping.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 21:55:04


Post by: Shakalooloo


Wait... These miniatures are actually CHEAPER than the year one models? The price has gone DOWN?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 22:41:10


Post by: insaniak


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I like how despite being based on such ancient artwork, he still has modern Terminator, er, anatomy.

I mean, so does the artwork, so I'm not sure what the 'despite' refers to here.

He's actually not quite as badly constructed as some modern termies... Head is still way too low compared to the shoulders, but his armpits are at least below his chin.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/25 22:46:36


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 insaniak wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I like how despite being based on such ancient artwork, he still has modern Terminator, er, anatomy.

I mean, so does the artwork, so I'm not sure what the 'despite' refers to here.

He's actually not quite as badly constructed as some modern termies... Head is still way too low compared to the shoulders, but his armpits are at least below his chin.


Frankly, I really formulated that badly, I meant more like the mechanical bits - the pistons and the lot, they used to look considerably simpler and different on older minis.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 08:36:28


Post by: DaveC


Year 2 charge just went through and I can pick my free mini in MyWarhammer but the orders aren't live yet on the store. Went for the Sorcerer but I'll be buying the Terminator as well.

I might even watch some Warhammer+ at some point!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 08:40:08


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Ditto. Seems I can expect my Terminator Lord around 15 September, which is nice.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 08:42:56


Post by: Shakalooloo


 DaveC wrote:
Year 2 charge just went through and I can pick my free mini in MyWarhammer but the orders aren't live yet on the store. Went for the Sorcerer but I'll be buying the Terminator as well.

I might even watch some Warhammer+ at some point!


Ah, good to know that I'm not the only one who hasn't taken advantage of most of the subscription services! At least the TV side has the series organised, but every time I look at the vault I am staggered how there's no option to sort or order the books, and everything just sits in order of upload. A search function alone is not enough.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 08:51:07


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Also worth noting the Chaos Sorceror at least is £24, making it £2 cheaper than the Year One models.

I can’t confirm the Terminator’s Buy Price, as he’s my free one, but I’m trying to source confirmation. And there it is. £24 each.

Hmm. Should be able to apply my £10 sub voucher to the Sorceror too. Which is nice.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 11:12:50


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


Eh, I did say I wasn't going to get the Termie because of Warhammer+, but maybe it's worth getting a year subscription to check out the content and get the Termie.

What's the content like these days? Is it actually good or only stuff a rabid GW fan would like? I'm not really down for content simply because it's GW related content, but if it's actually good then it's a bit more interesting to me.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 11:24:46


Post by: Ashaar


It seems I was a fool trying to be prepared. I was on a monthly sub for year 1, saw it was due to renew today, so a couple of days ago upgraded to a yearly thinking it would bill me today - as in, add time to my existing sub. No, they've refunded me for July and I can't select my year 2 mini.
Have emailed customer support but ughhhhh GW why.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 11:27:05


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


That’s a difficult one to answer to be honest.

However, keep in mind if you annual subscribe, in U.K. prices it’s £50.00. For that I get a £24 model, a £10 voucher (which will likely be redeemed against the other Model, maybe some shooty Leviathan arms), leaving me with just £14 worth of value to extract from the subscription itself.

Now that last bit is of course incredibly subjective, but breaking down to a quid and bit each month, I don’t think I’ll be left feeling short changed.

YMMV of course. I’m only offering my thoughts, not facts.


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Ashaar wrote:
It seems I was a fool trying to be prepared. I was on a monthly sub for year 1, saw it was due to renew today, so a couple of days ago upgraded to a yearly thinking it would bill me today - as in, add time to my existing sub. No, they've refunded me for July and I can't select my year 2 mini.
Have emailed customer support but ughhhhh GW why.


Fingers crossed there’s a work around

If it helps, I paid my annual sub today and was able to make my selection. But, it’s not let me actually order it just yet.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 11:57:12


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


 Shakalooloo wrote:
 DaveC wrote:
Year 2 charge just went through and I can pick my free mini in MyWarhammer but the orders aren't live yet on the store. Went for the Sorcerer but I'll be buying the Terminator as well.

I might even watch some Warhammer+ at some point!


Ah, good to know that I'm not the only one who hasn't taken advantage of most of the subscription services! At least the TV side has the series organised, but every time I look at the vault I am staggered how there's no option to sort or order the books, and everything just sits in order of upload. A search function alone is not enough.
yes that is a bit of a pain..you'd think they might archive it a bit better. Old game rulebooks (sans all the rules), white dwarves, lore etc etc.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 12:32:59


Post by: Geifer


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Eh, I did say I wasn't going to get the Termie because of Warhammer+, but maybe it's worth getting a year subscription to check out the content and get the Termie.

What's the content like these days? Is it actually good or only stuff a rabid GW fan would like? I'm not really down for content simply because it's GW related content, but if it's actually good then it's a bit more interesting to me.


I haven't given the vault a look myself, but if you're like me and wouldn't spend money on GW's dodgy fluff endeavors at full book price, you'd be able to read a fair number of recentish campaign books for a lot less. I haven't read White Dwarf in forever, so I don't know if there's any appeal in it.

The painting tutorials I watched seemed functional. I have no use for them, and given you've been around long enough the same is probably true for you.

I've only watched the first and last lore videos, Abaddon and Squats. Largely because I prefer to read this kind of stuff rather than watch someone talk about it. They seem like comprehensive summaries based on the Abaddon one, but may not go into enough detail for your taste. The Squat one felt more substantial, but that may be because it's all new stuff from the as of yet unreleased codex with only scarce Warhammer Community articles that overlap it. May be of interest to listen to on the side or if you want an overview of something that happens to have a video.

Battle reports seemed fun enough if you're interested in the games.

I don't play, so I don't know what shape the apps are in.

I overwhelmingly found the various animations entertaining. They're hardly flawless, but it didn't feel like that ever got in the way except in the case of one Hammer and Bolter episode. As hinted at above, I'm not fond of GW's writing these days, at least what makes it into codices and campaign books, but I got a lot of fun out of the animations. So while I wouldn't spend money on those books to read modern fluff, I have no regrets about spending on Warhammer+ for, effectively, just the miniature and animations. Caveat, since that may be relevant here, but some individuals have been known to call my taste in movies trashy, so my opinion may not be of particular use to you.

What was criticized about the service a year ago is still true. A fair bit of it is stuff you can get for free elsewhere, and possibly better and/or in larger quantities. And as suspected early on, the release of new animations is slow. For myself I can say (and have, occasionally) that after the miniature and the voucher, a year of Warhammer+ is so cheap that I don't feel bad about subscribing and feel like I get my money's worth from the animations. If I wanted to subscribe for a month to binge them, I'd pay a little more than half of what remains of the yearly subscription cost. I don't think the difference is substantial enough to forego getting access around the year at my leisure.

Hope that helps, as subjective as it is.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 12:42:59


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Calling them "animations" is a bit of an exaggeration, they hardly move most of the time.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 12:56:24


Post by: RexHavoc


I didn't sub last year, as I thought the W+ stuff looked very mediocre & the models were not enough to swing it.

This year, I love the models and was almost tempted to take a year sub out. Trouble is I feel that its encouraging the mediocrity of the W+ content to continue. I know if you count the relevant cost of the models & any other vouchers/extras, W+ is next to nothing. But I still feel what they offer on there is so below the minimum standard set by every other resource online.

I'd much rather see W+ improve, offer subs without hiding behind 'free' miniatures and start offering content that others just cant match.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 13:01:05


Post by: Platuan4th


 Geifer wrote:
I haven't read White Dwarf in forever, so I don't know if there's any appeal in it.


There are some older White Dwarfs dating back to 2008, too, it's not just new ones.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 14:11:54


Post by: Danny76


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Calling them "animations" is a bit of an exaggeration, they hardly move most of the time.


uh huh..


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 14:26:55


Post by: SamusDrake


Did they ever get around to the show called "Broken Lance"?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 14:46:53


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Danny76 wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Calling them "animations" is a bit of an exaggeration, they hardly move most of the time.


uh huh..


https://youtu.be/tL_LXKfFvf4

Literally South Park tier. My favourite part is where you can tell they just flipped the asset for guy's head because his scar teleports to the other side of his face for a moment where he looks the other way.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 15:06:30


Post by: Toofast


It looks like someone videotaping a comic book while shaking the camera around. I just got a headache trying to watch that after 1 minute.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 15:37:58


Post by: Scottywan82


Got charged for the year and selected my mini. It says I can order now, but it won't let me on the store site. Imagine my surprise.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 16:56:23


Post by: chaos0xomega


I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 16:57:54


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


chaos0xomega wrote:
I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september


It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 16:59:26


Post by: DaveC


I was able to order both minis just after lunch, I added a box of accursed cultists as well so they won't ship until next week anyway.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 17:06:56


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Next weeks releases.



Interested in the Lore. I want to be interested in the Battle Report too, but that will depend on how much detail they give me about the Squat’s weapon stats etc, as that seems to be something largely glossed over in others, instead being “this unit shot that unit and here are some dice rolls with little context and now he lost three dudes”.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 18:03:12


Post by: chaos0xomega


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september


It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.


yeah, I was able to select my choice but not to order it, same as you. Wonder if it was an error that allowed the other guy to complete his? Either way I'll guess we'll see soon enough.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 18:05:19


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Could simply be a volume thing, and supply being done in at least two waves.

No big rush from me, and I’m hopeful the Leviathan arms will be back in stock so I get free home shipping on both.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 18:18:27


Post by: Danny76


 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Calling them "animations" is a bit of an exaggeration, they hardly move most of the time.


uh huh..


https://youtu.be/tL_LXKfFvf4

Literally South Park tier. My favourite part is where you can tell they just flipped the asset for guy's head because his scar teleports to the other side of his face for a moment where he looks the other way.


I mean it’s literally not South Park tier.
Closer to like Dragonball Z or other animes etc.
It’s an artistic style, yes a cheaper one.

And you’re proving the point with that one show. Picking one of their lesser shows. If you used one of the other three released, two are a lot higher quality so wouldn’t suit your argument. And Interrogator is noir so not comparable.

But that’s just your thing, to gak on anything you can. You do you. As It’s the internet.



Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 20:43:08


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


 RexHavoc wrote:
I didn't sub last year, as I thought the W+ stuff looked very mediocre & the models were not enough to swing it.

This year, I love the models and was almost tempted to take a year sub out. Trouble is I feel that its encouraging the mediocrity of the W+ content to continue. I know if you count the relevant cost of the models & any other vouchers/extras, W+ is next to nothing. But I still feel what they offer on there is so below the minimum standard set by every other resource online.

I'd much rather see W+ improve, offer subs without hiding behind 'free' miniatures and start offering content that others just cant match.


Frankly that's a little naive. If you want the models, sub. Take the other stuff as a bonus. Your little protest isn't going to change anything.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 21:03:58


Post by: Tonhel


Ashaar wrote:
It seems I was a fool trying to be prepared. I was on a monthly sub for year 1, saw it was due to renew today, so a couple of days ago upgraded to a yearly thinking it would bill me today - as in, add time to my existing sub. No, they've refunded me for July and I can't select my year 2 mini.
Have emailed customer support but ughhhhh GW why.


Lol, I have the same situation... monthly subscribed since august 2021. 25/08/2022 I claimed my Orruk Megaboss, and after this I upgraded to an annual subscription for the year 2 mini. What happened is that I got a refund for the month of july.. and can only select the year one mini, which I already claimed.

What a mess. I emailed them, so I hope they will fix it or atleast give me a refund, as the intend was not to pay two years on a row for the year 1 mini. ;-)


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 22:15:37


Post by: Shakalooloo


chaos0xomega wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september


It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.


yeah, I was able to select my choice but not to order it, same as you. Wonder if it was an error that allowed the other guy to complete his? Either way I'll guess we'll see soon enough.


I couldn't order mine earlier today when my sub renewed, but when I went back to the MyWarhammer page just now, a pop-up informed me that I could order my model.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 22:27:49


Post by: Scottywan82


 Shakalooloo wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september


It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.


yeah, I was able to select my choice but not to order it, same as you. Wonder if it was an error that allowed the other guy to complete his? Either way I'll guess we'll see soon enough.


I couldn't order mine earlier today when my sub renewed, but when I went back to the MyWarhammer page just now, a pop-up informed me that I could order my model.

I got the pop-up, but when I clicked on it, it still didn't work. Did yours?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 22:35:37


Post by: Shakalooloo


 Scottywan82 wrote:
 Shakalooloo wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september


It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.


yeah, I was able to select my choice but not to order it, same as you. Wonder if it was an error that allowed the other guy to complete his? Either way I'll guess we'll see soon enough.


I couldn't order mine earlier today when my sub renewed, but when I went back to the MyWarhammer page just now, a pop-up informed me that I could order my model.

I got the pop-up, but when I clicked on it, it still didn't work. Did yours?


Clicking took me to my chosen free model on the GW store, which I could add to my basket. Then I went back to my subscriptions to link through to add the other model. I checked-out and ordered both.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/28 23:14:51


Post by: Scottywan82


 Shakalooloo wrote:
Clicking took me to my chosen free model on the GW store, which I could add to my basket. Then I went back to my subscriptions to link through to add the other model. I checked-out and ordered both.

Oh, good! I clicked, and got to the listing on the site, but I still don't have the "order" option on it. I will try to be patient for now and if it still isn't working tomorrow, I'll shoot them an email.

Thanks!

EDIT: And now it let me add it to the cart. Woot!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/29 07:49:04


Post by: Azazelx


Just checked the AU prices - the £24 model translates to AU$66.

You know, instead of $41. I realise they want to bake in some currency buffer, but it's a bit ridiculous...


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/29 10:17:22


Post by: Wha-Mu-077


 Azazelx wrote:
Just checked the AU prices - the £24 model translates to AU$66.

You know, instead of $41. I realise they want to bake in some currency buffer, but it's a bit ridiculous...


That's just standard GW practice, AU prices are usually inflated by a good 50% at least compared to the actual exchange rate.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/29 10:28:49


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Got my Terminator ordered. Time to persuade my amazing painter mate to do the honours.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/30 14:20:54


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


 Geifer wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Eh, I did say I wasn't going to get the Termie because of Warhammer+, but maybe it's worth getting a year subscription to check out the content and get the Termie.

What's the content like these days? Is it actually good or only stuff a rabid GW fan would like? I'm not really down for content simply because it's GW related content, but if it's actually good then it's a bit more interesting to me.


Spoiler:
I haven't given the vault a look myself, but if you're like me and wouldn't spend money on GW's dodgy fluff endeavors at full book price, you'd be able to read a fair number of recentish campaign books for a lot less. I haven't read White Dwarf in forever, so I don't know if there's any appeal in it.

The painting tutorials I watched seemed functional. I have no use for them, and given you've been around long enough the same is probably true for you.

I've only watched the first and last lore videos, Abaddon and Squats. Largely because I prefer to read this kind of stuff rather than watch someone talk about it. They seem like comprehensive summaries based on the Abaddon one, but may not go into enough detail for your taste. The Squat one felt more substantial, but that may be because it's all new stuff from the as of yet unreleased codex with only scarce Warhammer Community articles that overlap it. May be of interest to listen to on the side or if you want an overview of something that happens to have a video.

Battle reports seemed fun enough if you're interested in the games.

I don't play, so I don't know what shape the apps are in.

I overwhelmingly found the various animations entertaining. They're hardly flawless, but it didn't feel like that ever got in the way except in the case of one Hammer and Bolter episode. As hinted at above, I'm not fond of GW's writing these days, at least what makes it into codices and campaign books, but I got a lot of fun out of the animations. So while I wouldn't spend money on those books to read modern fluff, I have no regrets about spending on Warhammer+ for, effectively, just the miniature and animations. Caveat, since that may be relevant here, but some individuals have been known to call my taste in movies trashy, so my opinion may not be of particular use to you.

What was criticized about the service a year ago is still true. A fair bit of it is stuff you can get for free elsewhere, and possibly better and/or in larger quantities. And as suspected early on, the release of new animations is slow. For myself I can say (and have, occasionally) that after the miniature and the voucher, a year of Warhammer+ is so cheap that I don't feel bad about subscribing and feel like I get my money's worth from the animations. If I wanted to subscribe for a month to binge them, I'd pay a little more than half of what remains of the yearly subscription cost. I don't think the difference is substantial enough to forego getting access around the year at my leisure.

Hope that helps, as subjective as it is.


Thanks for the rundown.

I feel like I wouldn't value battle reports, unless there's something really special about them, I rarely watch battle reps on YT (usually only if it's a game I'm unfamiliar with and trying to see if it's something I'll enjoy).

What format are vault books in? Is it something I can download and view on a different (offline) device, or only through some viewer on the website?

I'm a bit confused about the miniatures, looking at the terms on the website, if someone hasn't been subscribed in year 1, if you start an annual subscription you will be able to get the model 22 days after starting the subscription? But it sounds like people are already ordering it?


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Azazelx wrote:
Just checked the AU prices - the £24 model translates to AU$66.

You know, instead of $41. I realise they want to bake in some currency buffer, but it's a bit ridiculous...


That's just standard GW practice, AU prices are usually inflated by a good 50% at least compared to the actual exchange rate.


That's not really standard practice, standard practice is to get a number out of the random number generator and use that to determine the exchange rate.

A lot of the time GW exchange rate is not far off the real exchange rate, other times it's flying rodent gak insane.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/30 14:27:23


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Got my Terminator ordered. Time to persuade my amazing painter mate to do the honours.
Or have a change of heart and sell your very rare model to me.

Wouldn't be the first time.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/30 20:08:44


Post by: Geifer


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
What format are vault books in? Is it something I can download and view on a different (offline) device, or only through some viewer on the website?


To the best of my not very tech savvy self's knowledge you can't download any of it. Would probably not be a good subscription service if it provided the option to download stuff, I reckon.

It opens with Adobe Acrobat in my browser. Not sure if that makes it PDF or a different file format, but since you're only supposed to view it through GW's website, it's not like it makes a difference.

You can highlight and copy text to easily beat someone in an online argument, though. Like this:

The Warhammer Vault exists to preserve the rich lore and background of Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar. As such, outdated game scenarios and unit rules have been removed from this publication.


Straight from the revised edition of Codex:Armageddon. What a mission statement!

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I'm a bit confused about the miniatures, looking at the terms on the website, if someone hasn't been subscribed in year 1, if you start an annual subscription you will be able to get the model 22 days after starting the subscription? But it sounds like people are already ordering it?


I assume GW's IT people aren't much more tech savvy than me and it's some sort of glitch. My subscription renewed during the night, so I only got to check in the morning after a few hours. At the time I could click the order button to take me to the relevant online store pages, but not add the models to the basket with a note from when I'd be able to order instead. I just checked the subscription tab on my account and now the buttons that take me to the respective store pages are replaced with the text informing me that I can purchase them from September 18 onward.

It's best to assume that the middle of September date that was advertised is what GW actually had in mind and anything else is just technical issues that may or may not get fixed in due time.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/30 20:36:38


Post by: axotl


Damn yeah I had both the year 2 items in my cart but must have forgot to checkout - they are both now no longer available to me until "9/18". Which sucks.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 11:25:37


Post by: The Phazer


AllSeeingSkink wrote:

What format are vault books in? Is it something I can download and view on a different (offline) device, or only through some viewer on the website?


Weirdly there is significantly better DRM on the vault books than there are on the animations (which don't really have any protection at all other than obfuscating the URL of the file on the CDN a bit).

They use Adobe Document Reader. They don't work offline and the client is miserable to read on to be honest. It's not even skinned, it looks like a corporate PDF reader. It's really, really the weakest part of the service despite the content selection being decent.

(The DRM is still not very good, but you would actually have to write some code to get around it unlike the videos.)


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 11:51:33


Post by: The_Real_Chris


Hmm, last day to decide whether or not I really want the terminator and voucher for is it 50? quid. That would make it the most expensive tiny model I have ever bought. But I would love it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 11:59:25


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Or just wait for Grotsnik to decide to sell it to me.

 The Phazer wrote:
They use Adobe Document Reader. They don't work offline and the client is miserable to read on to be honest. It's not even skinned, it looks like a corporate PDF reader. It's really, really the weakest part of the service despite the content selection being decent.
*laughs from the deck of his brig*

Air on the high seas is good for the lungs, and I've never seen a shipment from this so called "Vault" that didn't arrive on time.



Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 12:01:47


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Not gonna happen


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 12:14:03


Post by: Overread


The_Real_Chris wrote:
Hmm, last day to decide whether or not I really want the terminator and voucher for is it 50? quid. That would make it the most expensive tiny model I have ever bought. But I would love it.


Don't forget you can also just sub monthly and let it tick over. Granted the costs aren't going to be less and you have to wait till next year to get the model, but it might mean the difference between a lump sum cost now and spreading it out. I know my plans for getting early were scuppered because FW is putting some Eldar models out of production so I caved and got one of each


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 14:02:19


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


Ah well, I signed up. GW won me over with a model of a 25 year old white dwarf cover for an army I don't even collect, lol, how easily bought I was.

Dunno if I'll bother buying the Chaos Sorceress lady, maybe, probably not.

It did give me a slight worry when I logged in and said I couldn't order the model until August 2023! But after a few minutes the page refreshed and now says I can order it 21/09/2022.




Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 14:19:49


Post by: xttz


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Ah well, I signed up. GW won me over with a model of a 25 year old white dwarf cover for an army I don't even collect, lol, how easily bought I was.

Dunno if I'll bother buying the Chaos Sorceress lady, maybe, probably not.


Yeah that won me over too. That terminator was the cover of the very first WD issue I bought. Damn you nostalgia.

Between the renewal discount and spending the voucher on paint with free shipping it works out at a little over £1/month for the digital stuff.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 14:25:47


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


 Overread wrote:
The_Real_Chris wrote:
Hmm, last day to decide whether or not I really want the terminator and voucher for is it 50? quid. That would make it the most expensive tiny model I have ever bought. But I would love it.


Don't forget you can also just sub monthly and let it tick over. Granted the costs aren't going to be less and you have to wait till next year to get the model, but it might mean the difference between a lump sum cost now and spreading it out. I know my plans for getting early were scuppered because FW is putting some Eldar models out of production so I caved and got one of each


I didn't check other locations, but here in Oz it's 20% cheaper to go for the annual subscription.

But I didn't think it mattered when you started the subscription, as long as it was in the first year you'd get access to the model? Or am I misunderstanding how this all works? I thought if you subbed before the 25/08/2022 you'd get access to the year 1 models, but you'd have to be subscribed for a year before you could get access to the year 2 models or something like that.

Maybe I'm wrong, I found the terms and conditions quite confusing.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 15:31:44


Post by: deano2099


Quick PSA: don't order your Year 2 model now unless you absolutely need it right away. We also get a £10 voucher to spend in October and if you use it on something less than £30 you can use the free model to also get yourself free shipping despite the order being under twenty quid.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 16:48:45


Post by: Geifer


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Dunno if I'll bother buying the Chaos Sorceress lady, maybe, probably not.


Nobody buys the Sorceress. She's a freebie that comes with the Familiars you actually want to buy.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/08/31 20:42:24


Post by: BrookM


Bit out of the loop, I thought they weren't sent out until later in September, but just got word that my Terminator is on its way to me, yay!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/01 00:58:18


Post by: Platuan4th


 BrookM wrote:
Bit out of the loop, I thought they weren't sent out until later in September, but just got word that my Terminator is on its way to me, yay!


Yeah, got a shipping notification last night and UPS says it'll be here tomorrow.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/01 01:22:47


Post by: Voss


 Geifer wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Dunno if I'll bother buying the Chaos Sorceress lady, maybe, probably not.


Nobody buys the Sorceress. She's a freebie that comes with the Familiars you actually want to buy.


I do. She's the only thing I want out of the whole mass of Warhammer+ models.
She's dripping with character and gave me a fair few ideas for RPG characters.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/02 19:05:49


Post by: chaos0xomega


I just received my sorceress mini in the mail, didn't think theyd send it until later this month


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/03 07:31:21


Post by: JohnnyHell


 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I'm fairly confident they outsourced the paint job, I wonder who they got to paint it?


You’d be 100% wrong. Aidan Daly in the Eavy Metal team painted it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/03 10:31:06


Post by: Moopy


If they had a HH app that was free to use with a subscription then I'd consider it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/03 11:16:20


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


 JohnnyHell wrote:
 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I'm fairly confident they outsourced the paint job, I wonder who they got to paint it?


You’d be 100% wrong. Aidan Daly in the Eavy Metal team painted it.


Yup. Feels like he's been given more freedom to make the paint job look awesome though.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/04 08:05:45


Post by: Shakalooloo


The Chaos Sorcerer has copyright 2020 on her box, and 2019 on her sprue! I wonder if she was intended to be released earlier for some other promotion?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/04 08:31:15


Post by: xttz


 Shakalooloo wrote:
The Chaos Sorcerer has copyright 2020 on her box, and 2019 on her sprue! I wonder if she was intended to be released earlier for some other promotion?


There's a very old rumour engine pic for this model from around early 2020, so yeah it has definitely been around for a while.

I wonder if it was originally designed as a store anniversary / event model and then covid disrupted that by closing everywhere.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/04 08:50:45


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 xttz wrote:
 Shakalooloo wrote:
The Chaos Sorcerer has copyright 2020 on her box, and 2019 on her sprue! I wonder if she was intended to be released earlier for some other promotion?


There's a very old rumour engine pic for this model from around early 2020, so yeah it has definitely been around for a while.

I wonder if it was originally designed as a store anniversary / event model and then covid disrupted that by closing everywhere.


Like as the AoS partner to the Carl Weather Catachan, going on the dates.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/04 11:21:06


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Like as the AoS partner to the Carl Weather Catachan, going on the dates.
You sold me that Catachan. How long before you sell me this Terminator?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/04 12:18:03


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


I assume you can only get 1 Terminator with a subscription, no option to buy a 2nd?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/04 14:16:31


Post by: xttz


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I assume you can only get 1 Terminator with a subscription, no option to buy a 2nd?


Yeah that's right they're limited to 1. Now that I've claimed one the website won't let me order another assassin, but I can still buy the AOS Ork guy.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 08:38:16


Post by: Drakheart




Mine arrived on saturday, managed to print a suitable base to keep the feel of the artwork.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 09:25:42


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Like as the AoS partner to the Carl Weather Catachan, going on the dates.
You sold me that Catachan. How long before you sell me this Terminator?


You mean this Terminator?

This Terminator right here?

On the fifth of NEVER!

[Thumb - 2F6707C4-8FEE-4D5C-A5C8-C8162B1B20F0.jpeg]


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 09:29:15


Post by: xttz


 Drakheart wrote:


Mine arrived on saturday, managed to print a suitable base to keep the feel of the artwork.


Finally a great looking tactical rock!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 11:09:39


Post by: Apple fox


People getting there’s already and mine says cannot order :0
Very annoying.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 11:15:56


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


Yeah some people can't order until the middle of the month, I'm the same. Typical gw and their dog turd business model. I'm not desperate for the model, I have plenty to paint at the moment, it's just the inconsistency.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Drakheart wrote:


Mine arrived on saturday, managed to print a suitable base to keep the feel of the artwork.


Any scale shots for comparison? He looks chongus.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 12:16:35


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


So the Khorne symbol on his head isn't sculpted on?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 12:36:08


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


Good spot! Must have to paint it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 17:05:14


Post by: Shakalooloo


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
So the Khorne symbol on his head isn't sculpted on?


No, it is not. Daunting, to say the least.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 21:10:15


Post by: Shakalooloo


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

Any scale shots for comparison? He looks chongus.

He's The Size That Terminators Should Be:
Spoiler:


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/05 21:40:07


Post by: chaos0xomega


wow, thats pretty big. Almost pushes him into unusable territory in game given size vs equivalents. Not that you *can't* use him, just that the scale disparity will look off if you care about that sort of thing.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/06 09:16:34


Post by: alphaecho


chaos0xomega wrote:
wow, thats pretty big. Almost pushes him into unusable territory in game given size vs equivalents. Not that you *can't* use him, just that the scale disparity will look off if you care about that sort of thing.


He's Chaos. He's a Champion.

Maybe his 'gifts' are changing him beyond his more common Terminstor brothers?

It would be more off putting if he was Imperial.



Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/06 09:20:13


Post by: xttz


 Shakalooloo wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

Any scale shots for comparison? He looks chongus.

He's The Size That Terminators Should Be:


Does anyone know how he compares to the newer (2019?) chaos terminators? I assume it's closer.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/06 18:16:50


Post by: GiToRaZor


 xttz wrote:
 Shakalooloo wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

Any scale shots for comparison? He looks chongus.

He's The Size That Terminators Should Be:


Does anyone know how he compares to the newer (2019?) chaos terminators? I assume it's closer.


He should be a bit taller than them, here's a video and the model is the same height as gravis primaries (very end of the video)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4CB_cb2Iq78


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/06 18:24:12


Post by: GaroRobe


chaos0xomega wrote:
wow, thats pretty big. Almost pushes him into unusable territory in game given size vs equivalents. Not that you *can't* use him, just that the scale disparity will look off if you care about that sort of thing.


Sort of the issue I've run into with my Abaddon conversion. He's a chaos sorcerer, but he's just so huge. If you trim his loincloth down slightly, Abby can fit on a normal terminator base, but it's still such a noticeable difference its awkward


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/09/06 18:37:23


Post by: tneva82


 GiToRaZor wrote:
 xttz wrote:
 Shakalooloo wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

Any scale shots for comparison? He looks chongus.

He's The Size That Terminators Should Be:


Does anyone know how he compares to the newer (2019?) chaos terminators? I assume it's closer.


He should be a bit taller than them, here's a video and the model is the same height as gravis primaries (very end of the video)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4CB_cb2Iq78


Not good then. Terminators should be about 8 feet so reqular primaris sized. Gravis adds up to height so those should be taller.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/02 18:16:05


Post by: Gimgamgoo


Has anyone had there code yet for the £10 voucher? Isn't it supposed to be spent before the end of October?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/02 18:21:35


Post by: Eldarain


Not yet. They said first week.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/02 20:44:14


Post by: gianlucafiorentini123


When do the exclusive models become available to order? Been in since day 1 and still can’t get this years models.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/02 21:08:31


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


When did you resub? And did you do yearly or monthly?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/02 21:14:36


Post by: Overread


If you sub monthly you have to wait until the last month of the 12 month period to get your model. If you sub annually you should be able to make your choice and buy the other model.

You have to make sure you're signed into your Warhammer Account for it to check your status


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/02 21:14:56


Post by: gianlucafiorentini123


28th August and for the yearly subscription


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/02 21:24:51


Post by: Overread


Try logging into your Warhammer account again. Sometimes it shows you logged in when the system doesn't kind of think you are


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/03 06:46:33


Post by: Jadenim


I just checked over the weekend and the voucher Ts&Cs says it will be delivered by e-mail “on or before Friday 7th October”, so they should be arriving in your inbox sometime this week.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Overread wrote:
Try logging into your Warhammer account again. Sometimes it shows you logged in when the system doesn't kind of think you are


Yes, it should appear on your My Warhammer account.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/03 15:51:43


Post by: Doohicky


Picked up my year 2 model (Terminator) the other week and the store guy was saying that the early ordering was actually a feth up by GW.
Wasn't meant to be orderable, but the stores were told to honor any that had been done, like mine.
They were well jealous as none of them had got an order in.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/03 17:10:41


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


That much was obvious really, how some people could order at the start of sept and others ha d to wait until the 19th


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/06 09:14:07


Post by: GiToRaZor


So, did any of you get the voucher code yet? My inbox only received the regular marketing stuff


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/06 09:21:36


Post by: Apple fox


 GiToRaZor wrote:
So, did any of you get the voucher code yet? My inbox only received the regular marketing stuff


I haven’t got my code, but I still cannot order the mini ether so I still think they having issues.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/06 10:12:40


Post by: DaveC


T&Cs say voucher will issue by the 7th so they still have until tomorrow.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/06 11:03:31


Post by: xttz


I checked and last year the voucher was emailed out at around midday (UK) on the Friday. So probably 24 hours to go.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 13:47:18


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Just got my voucher through.

Payday, I order Dakka Arms for my Leviathan .


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 13:49:32


Post by: xttz


Ditto, the voucher showed on my account before I redeemed the code. Gonna wait and see what tomorrow's preview has in store in case there's anything cool available before the end of the month.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 14:43:12


Post by: tneva82


Got it and spent rightaway to get herald of khorne in charriot. Vouchers for mail order item is my motto as those aren't normally discountable


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 14:49:05


Post by: Boosykes


tneva82 wrote:
 GiToRaZor wrote:
 xttz wrote:
 Shakalooloo wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

Any scale shots for comparison? He looks chongus.

He's The Size That Terminators Should Be:
the whole primaris thing needs to go away marines shouldn't be seven feet terminators 8 Gravis shouldn't just get bulkier with termy helm and be called terminators. The whole primaris thing is dumb if marines can upgrade then they are all primaris now and are thus just marines done.

Does anyone know how he compares to the newer (2019?) chaos terminators? I assume it's closer.


He should be a bit taller than them, here's a video and the model is the same height as gravis primaries (very end of the video)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4CB_cb2Iq78


Not good then. Terminators should be about 8 feet so reqular primaris sized. Gravis adds up to height so those should be taller.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 15:03:54


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


Apple fox wrote:
 GiToRaZor wrote:
So, did any of you get the voucher code yet? My inbox only received the regular marketing stuff


I haven’t got my code, but I still cannot order the mini ether so I still think they having issues.
What day did you sign up? The model becomes available around 20 days after signing up.

I haven't got my code, but I signed up on what I believe was the last day and close to the end of the day, so maybe I missed out if there was something to do with different time zones. EDIT: Wait, no, I do have my code, received it about an hour ago, it just didn't go to my main inbox.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 15:17:17


Post by: alphaecho




Voucher code received today and, as of Wednesday 5 October I was free to order both the Terminator and the Sorcerer.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 15:54:56


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


 alphaecho wrote:


Voucher code received today and, as of Wednesday 5 October I was free to order both the Terminator and the Sorcerer.


Is there a time limit for ordering the Terminator and Sorcerer? Mine's available now, but I was going to order it alongside some stuff that's not in stock.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 16:03:00


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


One per subscriber for each.

Which is a point. I need to be ordering my Sorceror, and if I’ve not left it to late Boss Orc thing. Both grant free shipping and all, so definitely adding the Levi Dakka to that order.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 17:07:38


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


Can you use it on forge world?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 17:14:58


Post by: Apple fox


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Apple fox wrote:
 GiToRaZor wrote:
So, did any of you get the voucher code yet? My inbox only received the regular marketing stuff


I haven’t got my code, but I still cannot order the mini ether so I still think they having issues.
What day did you sign up? The model becomes available around 20 days after signing up.

I haven't got my code, but I signed up on what I believe was the last day and close to the end of the day, so maybe I missed out if there was something to do with different time zones. EDIT: Wait, no, I do have my code, received it about an hour ago, it just didn't go to my main inbox.


I sign up about a week after it started ;( maybe I got my code now !
But yea, still no second mini even on yearly sub. They said to wait. But it’s a bit annoying.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 17:24:14


Post by: Nevelon


When I first went to the webstore, it didn’t offer the mini. Logging into the W+ site, selecting the one I wanted there, and logging in/out of the webstore let me add it for free into my cart.

Voucher cashed in, and the special terminator guy and some 30k plastic heavy weapons are on the way.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 18:01:41


Post by: alphaecho


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 alphaecho wrote:


Voucher code received today and, as of Wednesday 5 October I was free to order both the Terminator and the Sorcerer.


Is there a time limit for ordering the Terminator and Sorcerer? Mine's available now, but I was going to order it alongside some stuff that's not in stock.


I assume you have 12 months to order it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/07 20:50:44


Post by: xttz


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 alphaecho wrote:


Voucher code received today and, as of Wednesday 5 October I was free to order both the Terminator and the Sorcerer.


Is there a time limit for ordering the Terminator and Sorcerer? Mine's available now, but I was going to order it alongside some stuff that's not in stock.

FWIW I still have the option to buy the other year 1 model (I already have the free one), so I assume availability is just based on remaining stock. They'll probably keep that topped up at least until the start of year 3.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Can you use it on forge world?

Nope it won't let me


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/19 14:23:12


Post by: GiToRaZor


I just watched the first episode of the new season of AoD and have to admit. They really improved on the critique from the first season. The episode is longer and actually has a story arc feel to it, the sound effects are a lot better and no longer come across hollow. The music is good.

Facial animation can still be improved and the general animation is still a bit wonky, static and drawn out. Some of the dialogue especially the one on the gun deck that is exploding, while everyone seems to have 5pm tea time...lets just say they could learn a bit from drama school there. But overall, they are getting somewhere finally. I'd say 6/10. Not perfect, but not attrociously bad as the last season either.

Let's hope it doesn't take them another 2 months until the next episode.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/19 14:53:14


Post by: BrookM


I still want my Imperial Knight show damn it


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/19 20:50:50


Post by: Overread


I really liked this weeks new video! Captured the dark gritty feel and the longer full story experience I think worked great for telling a whole story not part of one. It felt really on-point and improved - sound, music, animation, voice sync - all improved over the first season.

A solid quality production.

I also love how the lore works well in these, seeing the gunnery crew pulling the munitions into the bays by rope not by machine; seeing the grim resolve of characters etc.. It all just feels wonderfully on point for the setting and lore.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/19 21:17:18


Post by: Mr Morden


I enjoyed that alot - there is def some good vids


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/19 21:41:55


Post by: shadowsfm


sad that it took so long for a new episode to air after year two started 3 weeks ago. this episode was fantastic. it felt like 3 or 4 episodes, compared to last year's lengths. i'd give this a solid 10/10 on the youtube fan film scale


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/20 12:26:50


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 BrookM wrote:
I still want my Imperial Knight show damn it


Something like Pacific Rim with Knights and a Titan or two vs Tyranids!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/10/20 12:57:46


Post by: Overread


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
I still want my Imperial Knight show damn it


Something like Pacific Rim with Knights and a Titan or two vs Tyranids!


I'm only agreeing with that if the Tyranids can win!

Darn it stop beating up poor innocent Tyranids just to look big and powerful!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/11/16 14:45:08


Post by: shadowsfm


a tyranid episode is now available. enjoy!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/11/16 21:00:26


Post by: Overread


It's FREAKING AMAZING!

Animation quality is way on the up, more frames!! The colour choices for the Tyranids were awesome!

There is only one bad part
Spoiler:


I was so ready for a Lictor leaping in to "save the day" against the commissar and then an epic lictor VS Commissar battle!



Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/11/16 21:50:36


Post by: shadowsfm


I see an amazing ork Christmas carol on YouTube that they should definitely add to the hammer and bolter series




Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/11/17 10:23:52


Post by: Danny76


 Overread wrote:
It's FREAKING AMAZING!

Animation quality is way on the up, more frames!! The colour choices for the Tyranids were awesome!

There is only one bad part
Spoiler:


I was so ready for a Lictor leaping in to "save the day" against the commissar and then an epic lictor VS Commissar battle!



Really enjoyable episode.
Spoiler:
I don’t think how they dealt with the commissar in the end was bad when you realise what’s actually going on. It makes a lot more sense.
I actually watched it again just now, and everything from the very beginning is very ominous knowing the truth


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/11/21 18:51:26


Post by: Gert


Is it bad that I guessed the "twist" for the episode as soon as I saw the WarCom teaser?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/11/21 19:45:44


Post by: Overread


Naw, I'm pretty sure most fans would have caught on fairly fast that something was amiss and the potential nature of that at various points. For an existing fan, familiar with the material its more about setting it happen and also finding out how it unfolds (eg who knew, who didn't know etc....).


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/28 17:38:40


Post by: shadowsfm


There is a teaser that shows what to expect in 2023. I wonder what ever happened to the night lord episode of hammer and bolter


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/28 17:40:15


Post by: Overread


It might have been moved or delayed; but the teaser really is a teaser and shows very little so it could still be in there and just not being shown.
All in all I'm excited and hopeful that we get a lot more AoS stuff appearing


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 16:44:48


Post by: Danny76


Pariah Nexus trailer/teaser.

We discuss now?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 16:49:02


Post by: MonkeyBallistic





This looks legitimately amazing. It’s just a real shame it’s not going to be seen on a bigger platform.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 16:52:57


Post by: Gert


Looks interesting. The 9th Ed trailer but longer.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 16:57:32


Post by: Geifer


Looks pretty.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 17:12:19


Post by: Irbis


Salamanders and Ultramarines in one battle (sigh). I hate that the OG nine seem to be only chapters in existence in all stories in the setting, and it's even worse in M42 because whole point of Ultima Founding was to add a big number of new, fresh chapters to the story. Why not Krakens or Black Vipers if you really need Salamander-ish chapter? Not only both are more interesting, but a big opportunity to flesh them out was wasted

Also not a fan of comical brick weapons from tabletop. They resized them for the Sister, why not SM too? They really should be half the size they are in this animation going by canon dimensions...


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 17:30:59


Post by: MonkeyBallistic


 Irbis wrote:
Salamanders and Ultramarines in one battle (sigh). I hate that the OG nine seem to be only chapters in existence in all stories in the setting, and it's even worse in M42 because whole point of Ultima Founding was to add a big number of new, fresh chapters to the story. Why not Krakens or Black Vipers if you really need Salamander-ish chapter? Not only both are more interesting, but a big opportunity to flesh them out was wasted

Also not a fan of comical brick weapons from tabletop. They resized them for the Sister, why not SM too? They really should be half the size they are in this animation going by canon dimensions...


… aaaaand here comes Irbis to suck all the joy out of the room.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 17:37:30


Post by: Overread


NO! Only joy at seeing Xenos and Imperials and Marines facing off against each other in glorious digital animation!!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 18:34:47


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


That Guardswoman is spouting some serious Heresy to that Sister. If she wants, I've got a spot for her in my CSM army.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 18:36:33


Post by: Mr Morden


 Gert wrote:
Looks interesting. The 9th Ed trailer but longer.


I think the trailer is part of the same story - which is also cool.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 18:40:58


Post by: Dread Master


The trailer was probably a cut from the completed animation.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 18:50:25


Post by: stonehorse


I saw the title, and thought Necrons were getting Pariahs back for a minute there.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 18:57:34


Post by: Geifer


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
That Guardswoman is spouting some serious Heresy to that Sister. If she wants, I've got a spot for her in my CSM army.


The Sister isn't terribly bothered by it. Maybe you need two spots.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 18:58:06


Post by: KidCthulhu


That's a cool trailer, but I preferred when Necrons were inscrutable. Maybe if they didn't speak English/Gothic, they'd seem scarier?

That's a mostly minor nitpick I guess. The art is beautiful.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 19:00:39


Post by: Gert


Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 19:00:54


Post by: Shakalooloo


It's clearly about the Sororitas and her guard chum, and yet the WHC site still has blurb on the frontpage describing it as "Space Marines clash with Necrons"!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 19:09:12


Post by: KidCthulhu


 Gert wrote:
Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.


I think that's just it; I liked them better when they didn't have a POV.
Probably because I'm nostalgic for their 2nd Edition incarnation.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 19:12:47


Post by: Geifer


 KidCthulhu wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.


I think that's just it; I liked them better when they didn't have a POV.
Probably because I'm nostalgic for their 2nd Edition incarnation.


You're not alone in that. I'm all for getting more Sisters action, but I'm not sure I'm actually looking forward to this animation because of the Tomb Kings in space. It'll just be more Saturday morning cartoon villainy like anything Necron from the past fifteen years, and that just isn't for me.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 20:35:32


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


 KidCthulhu wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.


I think that's just it; I liked them better when they didn't have a POV.
Probably because I'm nostalgic for their 2nd Edition incarnation.


When their entire concept boiled down to, "The Terminator, but with less personality"?

I'm also not a huge fan of them just being Tomb Kings in Space (TM), but we really don't need more than one army without a personality (the other being Tyranids).


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 20:41:24


Post by: Platuan4th


The Infinite and The Divine(Aka Trazyn and Orikan's Excellent Adventure) sold me on Necrons with personality


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 20:44:05


Post by: Gert


One of the best novels I've ever read.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 21:02:33


Post by: Tsagualsa


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
 KidCthulhu wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.


I think that's just it; I liked them better when they didn't have a POV.
Probably because I'm nostalgic for their 2nd Edition incarnation.


When their entire concept boiled down to, "The Terminator, but with less personality"?

I'm also not a huge fan of them just being Tomb Kings in Space (TM), but we really don't need more than one army without a personality (the other being Tyranids).


Just like the Terminator, the OG Necrons had absolutely no personality, but a really strong presence nonetheless. That being said, even if that presence was strong, it pretty obviously is a one-trick pony, and grew old very fast in the same vein as the Terminator franchise. There's only a handfull of stories you can tell with that concept, and they've been told. Necrons with personality are more suited for a wider range of narratives, and you can have the old Killbots as subfaction or corrupted dinasty anyway if you want to.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 21:29:27


Post by: His Master's Voice


If Old-Crons were a one trick pony, what is there to say about Nids, or Dark Eldar?

I always thought the cosmic horror of the C'tan was more interesting from a setting perspective that funny robot Trazyn. Chaos and Nids are familiar in their terror, the C'tan were alien in a very Lovecraftian, uncaring way.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 21:37:56


Post by: tneva82


 Geifer wrote:
 KidCthulhu wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.


I think that's just it; I liked them better when they didn't have a POV.
Probably because I'm nostalgic for their 2nd Edition incarnation.


You're not alone in that. I'm all for getting more Sisters action, but I'm not sure I'm actually looking forward to this animation because of the Tomb Kings in space. It'll just be more Saturday morning cartoon villainy like anything Necron from the past fifteen years, and that just isn't for me.



Players wanted 40k be saturday cartoon, they got it


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 21:48:03


Post by: Tsagualsa


 His Master's Voice wrote:
If Old-Crons were a one trick pony, what is there to say about Nids, or Dark Eldar?

I always thought the cosmic horror of the C'tan was more interesting from a setting perspective that funny robot Trazyn. Chaos and Nids are familiar in their terror, the C'tan were alien in a very Lovecraftian, uncaring way.


Oh, i personally liked the lovecraftian murderbots, but GW clearly wasn't, and wasn't smart enough to write them anyhow.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 21:56:30


Post by: Overread


Also Tyranids kinda had that whole Mysterious thing we can't understand bit going on and Necrons were getting in on their turf!

Personally I don't see Necron lore so much as changing as evolving for the most part. I know their relationship with the C'Tan changed in the lore, but otherwise its almost like a natural evolution of their status. Starting off with a few tombs awakening and almost running on auto-pilot. Killing and destroying and awakening others, but even the lords were mostly just Terminators in all but name.

Then we steadily saw them awakening properly; greater lords and Tombs that were less damaged awakening; resulting in Necrons who had a shred of personality.
They are 100% still murderous killing machines who are half insane. They still hold dinner parties for their foes when their foes have no concept of what is going on and when the necrons don't even eat at the dinner party!

If anything it adds layers to the sinister nature of them because you can sort of just understand them, and yet not because they are partly deluded; or if they aren't they are driven mad by their condition.

It also allows them to have stories about them. Something that Tyranids don't really have and its a huge shame they don't; but without a "voice" of their own you need a really talented author to write stories about Tyranids that don't just feel like a battle summary.

Now don't get me wrong I love Tyranids and I don't want them to change, but their position story wise is a bit weak in that whilst they have huge victories and have done some massive things; they don't really have heroes or characters or character or agents or elements for people to latch onto. Even the Swarm Lord is kind of a "ok so everyone big and powerful goes to fight him one on one and most of them manage to kill him which - doesn't change Tyranid lore one bit and shows how super hard those characters are.

Necrons get to have characters; they get to have stories that are more than just "Murder bot murder". They have intelligent command of vast technologies and powers beyond the other races; they have a vision that extends beyond the other races; they have desires or at least the vestiges of desires.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 22:10:52


Post by: Mr Morden


 Platuan4th wrote:
The Infinite and The Divine(Aka Trazyn and Orikan's Excellent Adventure) sold me on Necrons with personality


It was good fun


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/30 23:59:12


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Cool trailer.

But can you imagine how much cooler it would have been if they'd had this ready when the Pariah Nexus stuff was still a thing in regular 40k, rather than a year and a half after the fact?


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 00:13:14


Post by: drbored


I dig it.
One of my first reactions was 'how is that sister not shooting the guardsman for heresy?' but I remembered a few things.

Summary executions are the job of commissars and higher ranking officers, Inquisitors and others that carry the weight of judge, jury, and executioner, and a regular sister wouldn't necessarily have that authority in a larger multi-force war. It'd be her job to -report- it, definitely.

She likely needs all the help she can get to get through whatever struggle they're facing and survive.

She possibly sees (and it makes narrative sense) for the guardsman to be a trial of faith, the devil on the sororitas' shoulder.

The Guardswoman also helps answer a lot of a potentially new audience's questions: where are the lines between faith, duty, and preservation of life? It shows a few great things, like the Imperium not being so monolithic, that guardsmen aren't hyper-indoctrinated like Sisters or Marines are and have much more human opinions and emotions.

They put some serious effort into this, and while hobbyists are looking forward to Arks of Omen, I think the timing of this is fine. Should the Harry Potter movies come out at the same time as the books? It's pretty common everywhere else that source material gets adapted to animation and film well after that source is written.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 00:40:27


Post by: Overread


It's also important to note that the Sisters and Marines know about Chaos. Imperial Guardsmen might have very little to no understanding about Chaos or Xenos until they end up in combat situations and even then there's a vast difference between "Chaos Cultists like to kill people and worship demons" to actually seeing demons or psy powers and such.

A guardsman having a crisis of faith and having to work through it is very lore appropriate.




And yep just because you can execute almost anyone lower ranking for heresy, doesn't mean you should every time. Indeed sometimes commissars who too free with executions can end up rather dead when their troops, maybe don't kill them, but certainly doing fight their best to protect them. The key with a grim dark setting is to realise that the dark bits CAN happen and DO happen, but that they do not happen every single time without fail and perfectly. Otherwise it stops being a grim setting and becomes more of a weekend cartoon with over-the-top elements.



Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 00:44:06


Post by: Shakalooloo


 Overread wrote:
And yep just because you can execute almost anyone lower ranking for heresy, doesn't mean you should every time. Indeed sometimes commissars who too free with executions can end up rather dead when their troops, maybe don't kill them, but certainly doing fight their best to protect them.


A single guard speaking heresy has no threat of spreading it to others, so let them fight alongside you to kill the enemy, then shoot them in the face morally correct them once the physical danger is over.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 00:59:17


Post by: Overread


Plus lets not forget some Sisters fall - heck even Marines can fall!

Maybe these are the whispers that leads her down a path of potential corruption and her fall. Or she'll recover and restore her faith. Maybe she'll restore the guardsman's faith too.




Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 03:48:54


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


Anyone else wondering if Guilliman might actually try to get rid of the whole 'faith' thing? After all, the Emperor never wanted to be worshipped as a god, and Guilliman would know that.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 04:14:29


Post by: Dread Master


Except “faith” is an actual “thing” in the setting that works and has power. Not sure how he would even begin to get rid of it.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 05:22:18


Post by: Cataphract


To be fair for the Third Edition times, there are the “Severed” Tomb Worlds where the inhabitants have become mindless robot zombies controlled by the world’s computer or C’tan and it freaks out even the Necrons with with personalities.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 05:52:52


Post by: Danny76


He’s also said in the lore that basically it is what it is.
A necessary part of he Imperium now.
He stopped short of saying he believes it’s all true. But he did speak to the Emperor after all. So he knows..


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 09:05:03


Post by: Shakalooloo


 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Anyone else wondering if Guilliman might actually try to get rid of the whole 'faith' thing? After all, the Emperor never wanted to be worshipped as a god, and Guilliman would know that.


When faith conveniently turned out to be the only thing able to counter the effect of the Pariah Nexus, Guilliman probably took the pragmatic approach. Sure was lucky for the Ecclsiarchy that the Necrons chose that moment to unleash a weapon that required their particular expertise!

The space pope is in league with killer robots!


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 11:49:01


Post by: Overread


You can't just stop Imperial Faith. In some ways its the only thing holding the Imperium together as a single operating functional body of humanity.

Meanwhile at the top end there is a LOT of power behind that faith. You can't just sweep it under the carpet in one go. Remember in this setting the Faith is very tightly bound to the military on many levels even to having their own women at arms (Sisters of Battle).
If you declared the faith in the Emperor null and void you're trying to go against 10 Thousand years of training and indoctrination, power bodies and more.


He might be almost second to the Emperor in theory, but don't forget his brothers fell to darkness and him denying the divinity of the Emperor would be just the kind of thing a fallen one would say.

He has to play within the politics of the age he is in now. To do otherwise would run the risk of causing the Imperium to suffer a second civil war


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 15:04:16


Post by: Gert


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Cool trailer.

But can you imagine how much cooler it would have been if they'd had this ready when the Pariah Nexus stuff was still a thing in regular 40k, rather than a year and a half after the fact?

A lot of the stuff with WH+ was down to Covid it seems. The project overall was underestimated in its workload and then when office work became unviable it threw more problems on top.


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 15:08:03


Post by: H.B.M.C.


It's more commentary on GW is exceptionally good at striking whilst the iron is frozen...


Warhammer+ year 2 @ 2022/12/31 15:10:49


Post by: Gert


Just classic mismanagement of a project TBH. Obviously, Covid isn't something the company could plan for in a serious way but apparently shows like BatRep especially were just "How hard can it be?" and then it turned out that it was in fact, not simple.