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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/21 15:12:34


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Welcome this thread is for discussion, news and rumors related to Wargames Atlantic's PHYSICAL releases.

https://wargamesatlantic.com/


Automatically Appended Next Post:
To kick things off, Ooh Rah review

https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2023/01/ooh-rah-28mm-near-future-space-marines.html


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/21 19:48:36


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


and the link to the old thread in which will otherwise be hard to find
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/774878.page;jsessionid=E815A926E91CF25B6B8BD082CD19DDD1


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/25 22:50:11


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


There was interest in the gladiators in the original thread. Only Games now has them for sale as 3d prints at $10 for the eight figures. No Xenophon as of yet. Since I could not get a more specific URL, here's the product name for when the link below becomes something else. Spartacus Revolt Gladiators
https://only-games.co/products/new-product-2


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/25 23:12:33


Post by: Kalamadea


That should be in the digital thread, this thread is for the physical releases aka the HIPS plastic.

In regards to the physical plastic kits, got my Ooh Rah the other week and they're fantastic. Love that blog post, very large and very clear pictures of all the components, they're even better quality than the official ones on the WGA website

Checking the release schedule, looks like a lot of things are still scheduled for mid/late january and we're running short on time. Nothing I'm holding up projects for, but I'm looking forward to that German Sentries kit for Pulp Alley baddies, so many good options in there. I love Nazis, they're like hitmen. No matter what you do to em, you don't feel bad.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/25 23:29:06


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


 Kalamadea wrote:
That should be in the digital thread, this thread is for the physical releases aka the HIPS plastic.
I know but before the original thread was split, I said I'd post when Only-Games put the Gladiators in their store. After all, subscribers already know about it, so there' no point in posting in digital. So it won't happen again.

EDIT: Direct link for the WGA section of Only-Games. Maybe Kid Kyoto can put it in the first post for easy reference in the future?
https://only-games.co/collections/wargames-atlantic


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/26 01:18:53


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


 Kalamadea wrote:
That should be in the digital thread, this thread is for the physical releases aka the HIPS plastic.

In regards to the physical plastic kits, got my Ooh Rah the other week and they're fantastic. Love that blog post, very large and very clear pictures of all the components, they're even better quality than the official ones on the WGA website

Checking the release schedule, looks like a lot of things are still scheduled for mid/late january and we're running short on time. Nothing I'm holding up projects for, but I'm looking forward to that German Sentries kit for Pulp Alley baddies, so many good options in there. I love Nazis, they're like hitmen. No matter what you do to em, you don't feel bad.


Actually, we would prefer that the only games links get mentioned here, as they are technically a physical product.

That being said, they are physical versions of the digital releases, so it makes sense most discussion about the models themselves take place in the digital thread.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/26 21:37:50


Post by: Easy E


 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
There was interest in the gladiators in the original thread. Only Games now has them for sale as 3d prints at $10 for the eight figures. No Xenophon as of yet. Since I could not get a more specific URL, here's the product name for when the link below becomes something else. Spartacus Revolt Gladiators
https://only-games.co/products/new-product-2


Thanks for this. I will keep my eye out for Xenophon as well.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 9012/11/15 18:37:34


Post by: Shadow Walker


New SP (small request to WGA - please post those SP images in your newsletter as JPG not WEBP, thanks!)

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/28 09:27:58


Post by: Garfield666


Finally alternative non-traitor guard in HIPS?
That would be ace.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/29 08:50:56


Post by: lord_blackfang


Why is everyone in wargames so worried about their shins


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/29 08:57:24


Post by: RustyNumber


You would be too if you saw your best mates head turned into mist by an exotic alien projectile because he whacked his shin on a space-coffee-table whilst running for cover and had to start hopping.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/01/29 17:53:26


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why is everyone in wargames so worried about their shins


Have you ever dived for cover and banged your shin on a rock or tree root? Takes you right out of the fight.

Knee pads and shin guards save lives.

(Family Guy “sssss ahhhh” gif)


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/04 09:30:13


Post by: Shadow Walker


New SP

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/04 09:56:25


Post by: alphaecho




Is that the upcoming hard plastic version of The Damned?

Those pouches look like the ones on the stl previews/

Or are they Space Soviet Stalingrad/ Afghanistan survivors?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/04 20:32:35


Post by: Gallahad


I got a box of Ooh Rah a couple days ago. They look very nice and exactly what I wanted.

I hope WGA further expands the range.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 17:45:34


Post by: Smokestack


Got my ogres today. 5 boxes. They are a little smaller than I was hoping for, but still nice. Here is a pic of one I quickly put together on break... Also pictured, a Mantic ogre, A GW ogre, a GW special ogre (forgot his name) and a resin Ogre I got on Etsy.


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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 17:51:37


Post by: Garfield666


Thanks a lot!
Comparison photos of different companies are always highly welcome.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 18:24:17


Post by: Theophony


Do they come with 50mm bases? I was thinking of getting a sprue to make an ogre for my Nobility Blood Bowl team as these have the pouffy sleeves.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 18:31:50


Post by: Smokestack


 Theophony wrote:
Do they come with 50mm bases? I was thinking of getting a sprue to make an ogre for my Nobility Blood Bowl team as these have the pouffy sleeves.


No, no bases included. The one in the picture is on a 40mm round base. The mantic one is on a 50.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 18:34:36


Post by: Theophony


 Smokestack wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Do they come with 50mm bases? I was thinking of getting a sprue to make an ogre for my Nobility Blood Bowl team as these have the pouffy sleeves.


No, no bases included. The one in the picture is on a 40mm round base. The mantic one is on a 50.


Appreciate you


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 18:59:35


Post by: John D Law


Spyrers? 😳

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 19:28:23


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Who makes that ogre on the left?



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 19:35:23


Post by: Smokestack


Quick and dirty catbeast conversion to show compatibility.

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 19:54:44


Post by: KidCthulhu


Thanks for these pics, Smokestack! Next time I have some cash, I need to grab some of these ogres. The size seems perfect for my needs.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 20:07:46


Post by: Smokestack


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Who makes that ogre on the left?



Titanforge. I purchased him off of Etsy.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 20:23:43


Post by: Theophony


 Smokestack wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Who makes that ogre on the left?



Titanforge. I purchased him off of Etsy.

Knew I had the files for him somewhere. Just need to get a new computer that can slice files better and get the printer humming again.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/10 22:45:31


Post by: Osorios


The WA ogres are more petite than I expected, as I thought they were as tall as the GW ogres, but I guess they would still work together, but head swaps might not.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/11 02:08:49


Post by: Vermis


I can't get past the hands on that ogre. I didn't think fingers so flat and squared were still possible with injection moulding of the last fifteen years.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/11 08:31:21


Post by: modelhunter


Still waiting for our Ogres to arrive in Australia.

It is taking forever!

I think the Ogre's have taken over the Shipping Container and the ship for their own doings.

I just wish we could get our hands on all these fantastic new WA releases.

We have been waiting for months.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/11 09:11:10


Post by: alphaecho


modelhunter wrote:
Still waiting for our Ogres to arrive in Australia.

It is taking forever!

I think the Ogre's have taken over the Shipping Container and the ship for their own doings.

I just wish we could get our hands on all these fantastic new WA releases.

We have been waiting for months.


WGA certainly aren't being helped by the world shipping situation that is true.

I've looked through the Oct 22 Wargames Illustrated that had a WGA advert indicating a Fall release for the Ogres.

I need to see if the Ogre helmets work with left over feathers from GW Pistoliers so they can be added to my small Ventrillian force.

Now, are they going to sci-fi adapt the Treemen box? How could such a thing be represented? Throwing not-Ewoks?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/11 09:44:04


Post by: Shadow Walker


John D Law wrote:
Spyrers? 😳

Could it be part of some s-f vehicle?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/12 19:35:42


Post by: McDougall Designs




Wargames Atlantic plastic landskneckt ogres.

Greg for scale.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/13 09:42:48


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


I love that the Landskneckt giant is a thing.

Now we just need landskneckt halflings and pixies and we can have a full range of sizes.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Just saw that the Papal guards/Swiss Guards are on Facebook, follow them for IRL Landskneckt goodness!

https://www.facebook.com/GSP1506


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/15 14:35:35


Post by: Werkrobotwerk


I have a question, are the arms for the oorah keyed to specific bodies? If so, which arm numbers go to which body?

The reason I ask is I started assembling some last night and was seeing gaps where the arm meets the webbing that seem wider than on the other wargames Atlantic kits I've built. So I assume I have made a mistake.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/15 14:43:56


Post by: Midnightdeathblade


Having recently assembled some myself, there does seem to be a few different combos per torso, just gotta dry fit every arm. Certain arms that cause gaps on one weapon may not on another.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 10:37:44


Post by: Shadow Walker


Here is the review of OOh Rah by our fellow dakkanaut



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 12:26:50


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Good review, thanks for posting it.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 15:50:35


Post by: Shadow Walker


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Good review, thanks for posting it.

And here is another by him about Space Nam. IMO that kit is much better made and offers more options.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 15:59:14


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


The Space Nam figures do not do much for me, except maybe to make some 28mm Fallout style supermutants. But I can see how they might be very useful to others. I like the Ooh-rah more than I was expecting but more as Space Cops than Space Marines.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 16:24:04


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I’m looking forward to having both the Oo-Ray and the Space Nam. This is truly the Golden Age of plastic miniatures.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 16:32:40


Post by: warboss


 Smokestack wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Who makes that ogre on the left?



Titanforge. I purchased him off of Etsy.


He's a pretty awesome model and the STL is available on myminifactory as well.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 16:34:27


Post by: The_Real_Chris


 Smokestack wrote:
Got my ogres today. 5 boxes. They are a little smaller than I was hoping for, but still nice. Here is a pic of one I quickly put together on break... Also pictured, a Mantic ogre, A GW ogre, a GW special ogre (forgot his name) and a resin Ogre I got on Etsy.



Very Foundry (Warmonger) reminiscent.

https://www.warmongerminiatures.com/collections/great-orc-characters


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 16:56:20


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 17:06:30


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


I remember it well, I think the shock troops and armed civilians were the only ones to make it. Maybe the zombies too.

But let's keep this thread on topic.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 18:26:11


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


That is a different company entirely.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 18:43:23


Post by: GreenScorpion


 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


That is a different company entirely.


The comparison between the two companies is what makes it relevant here or are we unable to say that the plasma guns of the raumjagers are similar to those of GW's cadians, because GW is a different company?

--

On a different note, the Space Nam are certainly large compared to most 28mm scale human sized soldiers, but the details seem to be rather nice.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 19:32:31


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


 GreenScorpion wrote:
 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


That is a different company entirely.


The comparison between the two companies is what makes it relevant here or are we unable to say that the plasma guns of the raumjagers are similar to those of GW's cadians, because GW is a different company?

--

On a different note, the Space Nam are certainly large compared to most 28mm scale human sized soldiers, but the details seem to be rather nice.


No, you are fine. I was clarifying as we had been misidentified early on in the last thread.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 19:40:19


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
 GreenScorpion wrote:
 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


That is a different company entirely.


The comparison between the two companies is what makes it relevant here or are we unable to say that the plasma guns of the raumjagers are similar to those of GW's cadians, because GW is a different company?

--

On a different note, the Space Nam are certainly large compared to most 28mm scale human sized soldiers, but the details seem to be rather nice.


No, you are fine. I was clarifying as we had been misidentified early on in the last thread.


I was seeking to point out the similarities as well as the differences. I must admit to being a curious person.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 20:11:53


Post by: Gallahad


Anybody received any of the harvesters yet?

I'm really anxious to see some in the flesh. Really hoping Obscurities in Miniature does a review soon.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 22:01:22


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


 Gallahad wrote:
A

Really hoping Obscurities in Miniature does a review soon.


It'll happen eventually! I'm curious too!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/16 23:58:42


Post by: McDougall Designs


So, here's a scale shot of a leaping harvester , a landskneckt ogre, and a rough conversion I made with a hobby knife and a poor lizardman transplant donor.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/17 11:39:33


Post by: Cypher226


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


And Eureka did it like 20 years ago with the '100 club' etc, iirc. Taking preorders to gauge interest isn't a new idea, even in miniatures. S&S still do it as well I think.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/17 13:12:46


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


Cypher226 wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


And Eureka did it like 20 years ago with the '100 club' etc, iirc. Taking preorders to gauge interest isn't a new idea, even in miniatures. S&S still do it as well I think.



And that is news to me as well. I was unaware Eureka did it 20 years ago. However my point was not that “preorders are new or not”, I was more pointing to the specific number of 1000. Several people have speculated on what connections may exist between the now out of business Wargames Factory and Wargames Atlantic. It has been established that they are different companies with different CEOs/managers but speculation remains.

Also, some folks interpreted the original Vox Populi program to require 1000 votes before production would commence, such as it appears was the case with Wargames Factory from that wiki entry. WGA has subsequently clarified and said 1000 votes just put it to the head of the production line and all items announced as in development were scheduled to be eventually produced. At least that is how I currently understand it. If I am wrong it would be great for Wargames Atlantic to clarify.

Hence my post and why I felt it was relevant to post in this thread. The pay for votes Vox Populi has been contentious. I would like to see some of the unease about it reduced.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/17 19:39:38


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Cypher226 wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


And Eureka did it like 20 years ago with the '100 club' etc, iirc. Taking preorders to gauge interest isn't a new idea, even in miniatures. S&S still do it as well I think.



And that is news to me as well. I was unaware Eureka did it 20 years ago. However my point was not that “preorders are new or not”, I was more pointing to the specific number of 1000. Several people have speculated on what connections may exist between the now out of business Wargames Factory and Wargames Atlantic. It has been established that they are different companies with different CEOs/managers but speculation remains.

Also, some folks interpreted the original Vox Populi program to require 1000 votes before production would commence, such as it appears was the case with Wargames Factory from that wiki entry. WGA has subsequently clarified and said 1000 votes just put it to the head of the production line and all items announced as in development were scheduled to be eventually produced. At least that is how I currently understand it. If I am wrong it would be great for Wargames Atlantic to clarify.

Hence my post and why I felt it was relevant to post in this thread. The pay for votes Vox Populi has been contentious. I would like to see some of the unease about it reduced.



How is there speculation? Wargames Atlantic is not Wargames Factory. They are different companies, run by different people.

What speculation can I assist in clearing up.

Happy to assist,

The Wargames Atlantic Team.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/17 20:05:09


Post by: Gallahad


I think it is probably best to just ignore the hot conspiracy takes that amount to "ThEy ChOsE tHe SaMe NuMbEr Of VoTeS aS oThEr CoMpAnY!!!"

Unlike Wargames Factory, Wargames Atlantic are shipping product on the regular, pretty transparent about where sets are in production timeline, not spinning everything they do as "REVOLUTIONARY!!" and not running crowd funding campaigns.

In a short amount of time Wargames Atlantic already has an impressively deep catalogue (much larger than Wargames Factory ever was) and has knocked it out of the park on many releases. In addition there is buckets of evidence from reliable posters and business filings etc. that they are different companies.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 01:52:27


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 Gallahad wrote:
I think it is probably best to just ignore the hot conspiracy takes that amount to "ThEy ChOsE tHe SaMe NuMbEr Of VoTeS aS oThEr CoMpAnY!!!"

Unlike Wargames Factory, Wargames Atlantic are shipping product on the regular, pretty transparent about where sets are in production timeline, not spinning everything they do as "REVOLUTIONARY!!" and not running crowd funding campaigns.

In a short amount of time Wargames Atlantic already has an impressively deep catalogue (much larger than Wargames Factory ever was) and has knocked it out of the park on many releases. In addition there is buckets of evidence from reliable posters and business filings etc. that they are different companies.


Gallahad, why are you writing in that strange form of mixed capitals text? Are you trying to imply something? What exactly would that be?

Just to clarify something. Looking at the wiki, WGF had 42 sets. Mark Mondragon stated that he made 35 kits with Wargames Factory. https://www.tabletopanalytics.com/creator/mark-mondragon-6976

That seems to be as deep, if not deeper, catalog than WGA at 38 (including the bases set and the loose accessory sprue) unless I am missing something. Or are you including the STL side of things? I mention it because it was something I learned reading that wiki. I had not realized WGF had made so many kits.

I realize that evidence dug up by other people has already established WGF and WGA are different companies but when I try to promote WGA it is often brought up by people in conversation that they wonder about the similarities between the appearance of the companies and products. I seem to recall Mark Mondragon (aka Nosegoblin) said here on Dakka Dakka in the earlier WGA news and rumor thread at one point that WGA is neither WGF nor Dreamforge but merely used some of the same artists.

Yet some folks want to know more about what, if any, connections exist between WGA and both WGF and Dreamforge. Or if WGA is some sort of evolution of what was formerly WGF. Sort of like how Fallout has been made by an evolution of companies and original designers who worked for various different companies in that evolution.

Think of it as rumor control. Putting rumors to bed and dispelling concerns. I have broadly promoted WGA and been very active on their forum. I want to see WGA do well and there is plenty of evidence of that. I believe the best way to deal with rumors or concerns is to dispel them with more than just “we are different companies”, such as explaining why specific similarities exist.

For those concerned about a possible connection to Mark Mondragon, I would point out Dreamforge releasing their Grav Stug independently rather than through WGA and Only Games (MMF) as evidence of some distance between him and WGA.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 05:52:31


Post by: Gallahad


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
I think it is probably best to just ignore the hot conspiracy takes that amount to "ThEy ChOsE tHe SaMe NuMbEr Of VoTeS aS oThEr CoMpAnY!!!"

Unlike Wargames Factory, Wargames Atlantic are shipping product on the regular, pretty transparent about where sets are in production timeline, not spinning everything they do as "REVOLUTIONARY!!" and not running crowd funding campaigns.

In a short amount of time Wargames Atlantic already has an impressively deep catalogue (much larger than Wargames Factory ever was) and has knocked it out of the park on many releases. In addition there is buckets of evidence from reliable posters and business filings etc. that they are different companies.


Gallahad, why are you writing in that strange form of mixed capitals text? Are you trying to imply something? What exactly would that be?

Just to clarify something. Looking at the wiki, WGF had 42 sets. Mark Mondragon stated that he made 35 kits with Wargames Factory. https://www.tabletopanalytics.com/creator/mark-mondragon-6976

That seems to be as deep, if not deeper, catalog than WGA at 38 (including the bases set and the loose accessory sprue) unless I am missing something. Or are you including the STL side of things? I mention it because it was something I learned reading that wiki. I had not realized WGF had made so many kits.

I realize that evidence dug up by other people has already established WGF and WGA are different companies but when I try to promote WGA it is often brought up by people in conversation that they wonder about the similarities between the appearance of the companies and products. I seem to recall Mark Mondragon (aka Nosegoblin) said here on Dakka Dakka in the earlier WGA news and rumor thread at one point that WGA is neither WGF nor Dreamforge but merely used some of the same artists.

Yet some folks want to know more about what, if any, connections exist between WGA and both WGF and Dreamforge. Or if WGA is some sort of evolution of what was formerly WGF. Sort of like how Fallout has been made by an evolution of companies and original designers who worked for various different companies in that evolution.

Think of it as rumor control. Putting rumors to bed and dispelling concerns. I have broadly promoted WGA and been very active on their forum. I want to see WGA do well and there is plenty of evidence of that. I believe the best way to deal with rumors or concerns is to dispel them with more than just “we are different companies”, such as explaining why specific similarities exist.

For those concerned about a possible connection to Mark Mondragon, I would point out Dreamforge releasing their Grav Stug independently rather than through WGA and Only Games (MMF) as evidence of some distance between him and WGA.


The alternating caps was used to.imply the take was low IQ and or deranged.

You are dispelling no rumors. YOU started the rumor. You came into the thread with the wacky "Did you know they also picked the number 1000! Same as WGF! How interesting... " You started the rumor bud. And you won't stop mentioning it.

You got me on the number of kits though. I don't read the WGF wiki and was just going off memory.

Thankfully we both agree that Wargames Atlantic is great and we both hope they release many more kits.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 06:31:09


Post by: NoseGoblin


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 Gallahad wrote:
I think it is probably best to just ignore the hot conspiracy takes that amount to "ThEy ChOsE tHe SaMe NuMbEr Of VoTeS aS oThEr CoMpAnY!!!"

That seems to be as deep, if not deeper, catalog than WGA at 38 (including the bases set and the loose accessory sprue) unless I am missing something. Or are you including the STL side of things? I mention it because it was something I learned reading that wiki. I had not realized WGF had made so many kits.

I realize that evidence dug up by other people has already established WGF and WGA are different companies but when I try to promote WGA it is often brought up by people in conversation that they wonder about the similarities between the appearance of the companies and products. I seem to recall Mark Mondragon (aka Nosegoblin) said here on Dakka Dakka in the earlier WGA news and rumor thread at one point that WGA is neither WGF nor Dreamforge but merely used some of the same artists.

Yet some folks want to know more about what, if any, connections exist between WGA and both WGF and Dreamforge. Or if WGA is some sort of evolution of what was formerly WGF. Sort of like how Fallout has been made by an evolution of companies and original designers who worked for various different companies in that evolution.

Think of it as rumor control. Putting rumors to bed and dispelling concerns. I have broadly promoted WGA and been very active on their forum. I want to see WGA do well and there is plenty of evidence of that. I believe the best way to deal with rumors or concerns is to dispel them with more than just “we are different companies”, such as explaining why specific similarities exist.



WGA has nothing to do with WGF.

WGF started under another owner (union league days) who ran into some issues I will not cover here... They then were taken over by the tool maker in China, the same folks I partnered with to get the kick-starter done. WGF then later decided to get out of mini's to do more profitable ventures, sold IP and molds to another company (not WGA) and that was the end of WGF.

WGA is run by a totally unrelated person. I license my kits to WGA for production and he primarily makes his own line of kits... Given the limited time of WGA in this space, he is doing stellar work in quantity and quality.

Thats the skinny...


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 07:41:26


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


That does not seem a very gallant way of expressing your point Gallahad. To be clear, I did not start the rumors. In fact I pointed out that the two programs may appear similar on the surface but are in fact different. Unless WGA corrects me.

However are right, I am not dispelling the rumor, I am seeking for people with information who can.

Mark, thank you for shedding some light to help explain what has transpired. That hopefully does help dispel the rumor. As they say, knowing is half the battle.

I take it that other company the Chinese company sold designs to will be Warlord Games.

https://www.warlordgames.com/wargames-factory-sprues-released/

WGF made some good designs and I am glad to see the designs live on. Wargames Atlantic makes some good designs and I hope they make many more, for a very long time.

Edit: Let me also add, having clarity on who people are (and their past business projects) when making business decisions is essential to good decision making.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 07:48:35


Post by: NoseGoblin


I take it that other company the Chinese company sold designs to will be Warlord Games.

https://www.warlordgames.com/wargames-factory-sprues-released/


That is correct.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 11:35:39


Post by: Garfield666


I never got that hatred for WGF anyways. It was a good company at its time with some great product and people involved. All issues were caused by one guy, who messed everything up and, after being forced out, ripped people of with his next venture, Defiance Games.
As long as Tony isn't involved in WGA, I have no concerns and only sympathy for both company's.

Back on topic - early WW2 german PAK, eh? Will probably be nice, but I would have proffered a figures set. Such guns are not needed in huge numbers and have been available for years in different mediums by many companies. This is an item I would have rather seen as an STL, then in HIPS. Good luck with it!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 11:59:29


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


Wargames Atlantic is not Wargames factory.

There is no connection.

There may be similarities as both companies are or were miniatures manufacturers.

The companies are completely different entities, full stop.

Now, moving onwards:



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 12:52:07


Post by: Albertorius


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Speaking of reminiscent… I came across this wiki today and learned a bit of Wargames Factory history I was unaware. I noticed the 1000 preorders to put something into production “Liberty and Union League”. This seems very similar to the new 1000 votes to get a kit to the front of the production line program of WGA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory


They looks as similar between them as any other preorder of the "ransom" variety to me.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 14:43:19


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
Wargames Atlantic is not Wargames factory.

There is no connection.

There may be similarities as both companies are or were miniatures manufacturers.

The companies are completely different entities, full stop.

Now, moving onwards:



That sounds very definitive yet does not really explain similarities.

So are you saying WGA does not use any of the artists as Wargames Factory did?

That WGA did not use the same Chinese production company as Wargames Factory did before WGA moved production to the USA?

What about Defiance Games? I had forgotten about them, thank you for the reminder Garfield666.

There does appear to by stylistic similarities between WGA‘s Harvesters - Alien Bugs and Defiance‘s Alien Bugs Hudson‘s Bugs Drones. Was the same artist employed? Waś WGA merely inspired by the Defiance design? Was it merely a coincidence?

https://www.nobleknight.com/Publisher/Defiance-Games

There are also some design similarities between the WGA Ooh-rah designs and the Defiance Marines, as well as to a lesser degree the Eisenkern and Raumjaeger to Defiance Panzer Grenadiers.

https://stalker7.com/2012/05/11/defiance-games-marines/

It seems unlikely that there is zero connection and all these similarities are a mere coincidence but if that is the case I would like WGA to very clearly state that. If WGA employed the same artists (such as Tim Barry or Max Martelli) as either Defiance of Wargames Factory, that seems fine with me but others may not agree and either way I believe transparency is the best way to increase consumer confidence.

https://defiance250.rssing.com/chan-20869230/all_p1.html

Edit: I think a WGA kit with a PAK 36 scaled to match the other WGA WW2 figures as part of it could do well. Certainly as well as any of their other WW2 German kits.

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 16:07:37


Post by: Esmer


 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
Wargames Atlantic is not Wargames factory.

There is no connection.

There may be similarities as both companies are or were miniatures manufacturers.

The companies are completely different entities, full stop.

Now, moving onwards:



WW2 Soviet artillery I'd say.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 16:25:27


Post by: alphaecho




Grumpy Gnome, have you ever stopped to consider you may be overthinking matters?

Either buy Wargames Atlantic products or don't.

When it comes to 'Bugs', you may as well ask if they are linked to Games Workshop or Verhoeven's design team for Starship Troopers.

As for "but others may not agree and either way I believe transparency is the best way to increase consumer confidence."

You appear to be the first person since the Raumsjager were released to ask for 'transparency' so I'm not sure where "others may not agree" comes from.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 18:28:32


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 alphaecho wrote:


Grumpy Gnome, have you ever stopped to consider you may be overthinking matters?

Either buy Wargames Atlantic products or don't.

When it comes to 'Bugs', you may as well ask if they are linked to Games Workshop or Verhoeven's design team for Starship Troopers.

As for "but others may not agree and either way I believe transparency is the best way to increase consumer confidence."

You appear to be the first person since the Raumsjager were released to ask for 'transparency' so I'm not sure where "others may not agree" comes from.



I like to have more information before making decisions rather than making assumptions. Hence I ask for clarity. I care enough to openly ask directly. WGA can chose to answer or not. That said, yes many times folks have told me that I care too much, think too much and wear my heart on my sleeve. That is what it is to be a Grumpy Gnome.

The WGA and Defiance Bugs are certainly more similar to each other aesthetically than the GW products or Verhoeven‘s Arachnids. In particular the head/face. There are of course some stark differences, like the number of legs. And there generic features that do appear on alien bugs from many companies such as GW… the sharply pointed ends of their limbs. But the head and face does strike a certain similarity.

The Marines share at the very least two features some folks have complained about on the Ooh-rah figures, the rolled up sleeves and the thigh straps. Personally I do not mind the thigh straps but I do wish at least some of the arms had the sleeves rolled down in the WGA kit.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 18:40:13


Post by: Mr. Burning


WGA did not ned to come in here to clarify anything.

However In this thread they have repeated that they share no association with WGF.

In a public (ish) forum.

Its on record.

It is irrelevant if artists and sculptors have worked with WGF defiance or others in the past. (WGA are probably treating these individuals and companies better anyway)

Bugs and marines are the tropiest tropes out there. If there weren't similarities they wouldn't be Bugs or Marines.




Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 18:50:42


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Haven’t they said they hired artists and sculptors who previously worked with WGF? So the similarities aren’t any more sinister than the similarities between Mantic’s Enforcers’ weapons and Sedition Wars’ weapons, resulting from Mantic hiring the same artist as McVey.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 18:57:40


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Haven’t they said they hired artists and sculptors who previously worked with WGF? So the similarities aren’t any more sinister than the similarities between Mantic’s Enforcers’ weapons and Sedition Wars’ weapons, resulting from Mantic hiring the same artist as McVey.


If so, why not give the artists some public acknowledgment?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 19:20:58


Post by: Mr. Burning


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Haven’t they said they hired artists and sculptors who previously worked with WGF? So the similarities aren’t any more sinister than the similarities between Mantic’s Enforcers’ weapons and Sedition Wars’ weapons, resulting from Mantic hiring the same artist as McVey.


If so, why not give the artists some public acknowledgment?



Its not if so. It is.



WGA seem nice, they may provide that info. But it may be commercially sensitive information.

Just remember you are not entitled to any information on artists and the products and services they provide to WGA.












Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 19:30:16


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 Mr. Burning wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Haven’t they said they hired artists and sculptors who previously worked with WGF? So the similarities aren’t any more sinister than the similarities between Mantic’s Enforcers’ weapons and Sedition Wars’ weapons, resulting from Mantic hiring the same artist as McVey.


If so, why not give the artists some public acknowledgment?



Its not if so. It is.



WGA seem nice, they may provide that info. But it may be commercially sensitive information.

Just remember you are not entitled to any information on artists and the products and services they provide to WGA.












I do not claim entitlement but I do not see the harm in asking. Hudson Adams provided some nice transparency recently in a Wargames Illustrated interview regarding the WGA STL program. I would like to see more of that kind of transparency. I have been supportive of WGA for quite some time and that is easy enough for anyone to check up on.

I do not make assumptions of malice in regards to WGA. I would hope no one would make assumptions of malice on my part for asking questions.

It is easy enough to politely clarify my questions in a friendly manner. I realize reading tone on the internet is challenging so I may be off base here but there seems a bit of hostility in some these posts from folks regarding me asking these questions.

If WGA hired artists that previously worked for Defiance or WGF or any other company and subsequently worked for WGA and updated/modified/changed/ were inspired by their previous design that would of interest for me to know. The development of the Fallout Ip fascinates me and I am curious about a potential corollary in wargame miniatures design. At the same time such information from WGA can help kill rumors that some people still wonder about.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 19:37:50


Post by: NoseGoblin


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Haven’t they said they hired artists and sculptors who previously worked with WGF? So the similarities aren’t any more sinister than the similarities between Mantic’s Enforcers’ weapons and Sedition Wars’ weapons, resulting from Mantic hiring the same artist as McVey.


If so, why not give the artists some public acknowledgment?


I'm not saying this because I know something, just an outside, uninformed observation... Even GW stopped acknowledging individual artists after the Chapterhouse lawsuit because it left open a legal argument about 'ownership' and caused a good portion of their case to get tossed.

I would suspect, its more about branding and cohesion this IS WARGAMES ATLANTIC not WGA starring .... and.... and.... and if I had independent modelers working for me, I would think long and hard about how I put that out there. There are just a ton of issues that can arise when there is no need to even go there.

The only reason I have billing is because they were existing kits, they are my IP and most people know the mini's.

.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 20:01:00


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 NoseGoblin wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Haven’t they said they hired artists and sculptors who previously worked with WGF? So the similarities aren’t any more sinister than the similarities between Mantic’s Enforcers’ weapons and Sedition Wars’ weapons, resulting from Mantic hiring the same artist as McVey.


If so, why not give the artists some public acknowledgment?


I'm not saying this because I know something, just an outside, uninformed observation... Even GW stopped acknowledging individual artists after the Chapterhouse lawsuit because it left open a legal argument about 'ownership' and caused a good portion of their case to get tossed.

I would suspect, its more about branding and cohesion this IS WARGAMES ATLANTIC not WGA starring .... and.... and.... and if I had independent modelers working for me, I would think long and hard about how I put that out there. There are just a ton of issues that can arise when there is no need to even go there.

The only reason I have billing is because they were existing kits, they are my IP and most people know the mini's.

.


A well reasoned and valid point diplomatically presented.

That said, I really enjoyed the artist design video WGA put out for their Warring States Chinese that are in development. https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-range-warring-states



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/18 23:49:51


Post by: insaniak


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:

If so, why not give the artists some public acknowledgment?


They have sculptor and artist credits on their online store for each product.

You're making a big deal out of nothing, here.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 00:55:33


Post by: Dawnbringer


As it seems the topic of discussion, the similarities in name and sprue design would originally given alot of people pause, myself included. Not because it involved the Defiance games 'character' but more likely the same Chinese factory. I've since heard they have moved production back to the west, which makes me more inclined to purchase their products, but there will need to be something that comes up as a 'need' rather than a want (which doesn't mean a new product, just perhaps a new project on my part) before I commit the time to do the proper research to ensure production is in fact made east of the Pacific.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 02:55:24


Post by: alphaecho


 NoseGoblin wrote:


I'm not saying this because I know something, just an outside, uninformed observation... Even GW stopped acknowledging individual artists after the Chapterhouse lawsuit because it left open a legal argument about 'ownership' and caused a good portion of their case to get tossed.



In the UK at least, I think that's why Lucasfilm lost the Stormtrooper armour case and why the branding "Original Stormtrooper" now exists on lots of products that will never see Star Wars on the packaging.

Anyhoo, I skipped the Ooo Ra but am eagerly awaiting the Landsknecht Ogres so I can build them up as The Vain. I think I even have some Curious Constructs pith helmet Ogre heads left over from earlier projects.

Then there are still four boxes of Bulldogs to kitbash/ convert/ mix n match with the new Cadians and hopefully a box of Harvesters on the way. In fact, what do I have to look forward to once I'm back home in May?

1. Finishing off my Last Chancers inspired Cannon Fodder conversions now that the female Fodder are at home.
2. Printed Cannon Fodder civilian parts.
3. Printed human Death Fields Security.

That list only gets bigger if The Damned come to Only-Games for printing.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 03:54:15


Post by: Dawnbringer


 alphaecho wrote:
 NoseGoblin wrote:


I'm not saying this because I know something, just an outside, uninformed observation... Even GW stopped acknowledging individual artists after the Chapterhouse lawsuit because it left open a legal argument about 'ownership' and caused a good portion of their case to get tossed.



In the UK at least, I think that's why Lucasfilm lost the Stormtrooper armour case and why the branding "Original Stormtrooper" now exists on lots of products that will never see Star Wars on the packaging.



Yet other manufacturers seem quite able to do so. Looks like if you have proper contracts in place making it clear artists are signing over their rights (and being paid appropriately to do so) it doesn't seem much of a problem.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 03:59:38


Post by: insaniak


 Dawnbringer wrote:

Yet other manufacturers seem quite able to do so. Looks like if you have proper contracts in place making it clear artists are signing over their rights (and being paid appropriately to do so) it doesn't seem much of a problem.

GW's policy of not listing artists was supposedly an online safety thing, rather than a consequence of the Chapterhouse case. And the Stormtrooper thing was a rights issue stemming from the original design commission. While there are certainly some parallels there to the issues with GW's historical handling of art rights that were brought up during that case, it's a completely separate issue to naming artists on their work.

But, again, none of that is particularly relevant here, since WGA does list their artists for each product on their webstore.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 04:55:15


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 insaniak wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:

If so, why not give the artists some public acknowledgment?


They have sculptor and artist credits on their online store for each product.

You're making a big deal out of nothing, here.



Well, it would seem I have been making something of a fool of myself in that regard. Someone could have pointed out earlier for example that WGA lists Thieu Duong as the sculptor of Ooh-rah and Harvester sets. As you are quite correct Insaniak, WGA does indeed list that. Thank you for clarifying that for me Insaniak.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 07:12:51


Post by: alphaecho


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
. Someone could have pointed out earlier for example that WGA lists Thieu Duong as the sculptor of Ooh-rah and Harvester sets.


Someone could have pointed out to you? Interesting take.

In all of your research, did you not go to the actual Wargames Atlantic website and read either the product pages or the News updates?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 07:41:08


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 alphaecho wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
. Someone could have pointed out earlier for example that WGA lists Thieu Duong as the sculptor of Ooh-rah and Harvester sets.


Someone could have pointed out to you? Interesting take.

In all of your research, did you not go to the actual Wargames Atlantic website and read either the product pages or the News updates?


I have been on the Wargmes Atlantic website, and numerous other websites, extensively. I overlooked the sculptor entry on the catalog entry of each product page. Sometimes the simplest things get overlooked by me because despite my dislike of assumptions I occasionally make them. Mea culpa.

That said I have been unable to ascertain if Thieu Duong was the artist for the Defiance Bugs and Marines for example. I suppose I will never know.

It would seem this line of inquiry has alienated me from several people on these forums however and will desist. Lesson learned.

My intent was not malicious but in hindsight not phrased diplomatically enough. Again, lesson learned.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 08:18:29


Post by: alphaecho




Not alienated. Slightly bemused.

Whatever you do, don't research links between GW, Warlord, Mantic, River Horse and many others.

You'll be there forever.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 09:07:21


Post by: insaniak


Yeah, the industry really isn't that big. You'll find the same names cropping up in all sorts of places. It's not usually a sign of anything nefarious.


So... New models, eh?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 09:37:50


Post by: alphaecho


 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, the industry really isn't that big. You'll find the same names cropping up in all sorts of places. It's not usually a sign of anything nefarious.


So... New models, eh?



The new releases page indicates the Ogres and Harvesters could be on a ship ti Blighty by first week of March.

That's enough to get me tingly.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 12:07:11


Post by: Theophony


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 alphaecho wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
. Someone could have pointed out earlier for example that WGA lists Thieu Duong as the sculptor of Ooh-rah and Harvester sets.


Someone could have pointed out to you? Interesting take.

In all of your research, did you not go to the actual Wargames Atlantic website and read either the product pages or the News updates?


I have been on the Wargmes Atlantic website, and numerous other websites, extensively. I overlooked the sculptor entry on the catalog entry of each product page. Sometimes the simplest things get overlooked by me because despite my dislike of assumptions I occasionally make them. Mea culpa.

That said I have been unable to ascertain if Thieu Duong was the artist for the Defiance Bugs and Marines for example. I suppose I will never know.

It would seem this line of inquiry has alienated me from several people on these forums however and will desist. Lesson learned.

My intent was not malicious but in hindsight not phrased diplomatically enough. Again, lesson learned.


You could see if he has a Facebook page and message him.

No need to give us the answers or updates though.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 12:34:34


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 Theophony wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 alphaecho wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
. Someone could have pointed out earlier for example that WGA lists Thieu Duong as the sculptor of Ooh-rah and Harvester sets.


Someone could have pointed out to you? Interesting take.

In all of your research, did you not go to the actual Wargames Atlantic website and read either the product pages or the News updates?


I have been on the Wargmes Atlantic website, and numerous other websites, extensively. I overlooked the sculptor entry on the catalog entry of each product page. Sometimes the simplest things get overlooked by me because despite my dislike of assumptions I occasionally make them. Mea culpa.

That said I have been unable to ascertain if Thieu Duong was the artist for the Defiance Bugs and Marines for example. I suppose I will never know.

It would seem this line of inquiry has alienated me from several people on these forums however and will desist. Lesson learned.

My intent was not malicious but in hindsight not phrased diplomatically enough. Again, lesson learned.


You could see if he has a Facebook page and message him.

No need to give us the answers or updates though.


I cancelled my Facebook account a few years ago. It is not a platform I care to support anymore despite once being a big fan of its convenience. But I do appreciate the suggestion.

As the mod Insaniak has pointed out, my query is not relevant here and will discontinue it. However I felt it only polite to reply to you Theophony as you took the time to post the suggestion.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/19 13:52:49


Post by: ProfSrlojohn


 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, the industry really isn't that big. You'll find the same names cropping up in all sorts of places. It's not usually a sign of anything nefarious.


So... New models, eh?


Looking forward to the field guns. Having a cheap source of artillery platforms for things from 40k Rapier Batteries to Guard Autocannons to actual WW2 models will be fantastic.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/20 23:34:35


Post by: privateer4hire


So back to Quar, I'm guessing they will not be a Q1 release . Really looking forward to them, though.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/26 16:53:56


Post by: Sabotage!


Got to say I love the Ooh-Rah and Harvester Bugs......they hit just the right marine/bug aesthetic to me. I've been really looking to cut down my number of projects though, as I don't have time for nearly all of them, but I may just offload a different one to get the gears turning on some bug hunting action.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/27 00:31:21


Post by: Gallahad


 Sabotage! wrote:
Got to say I love the Ooh-Rah and Harvester Bugs......they hit just the right marine/bug aesthetic to me. I've been really looking to cut down my number of projects though, as I don't have time for nearly all of them, but I may just offload a different one to get the gears turning on some bug hunting action.


I'd love to see any photos you have of the bugs...I haven't quite gone over the edge for them, but I think I could be convinced.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/27 04:40:55


Post by: Eilif


 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 Theophony wrote:


You could see if he has a Facebook page and message him.

No need to give us the answers or updates though.


I cancelled my Facebook account a few years ago. It is not a platform I care to support anymore despite once being a big fan of its convenience. But I do appreciate the suggestion.

As the mod Insaniak has pointed out, my query is not relevant here and will discontinue it. However I felt it only polite to reply to you Theophony as you took the time to post the suggestion.


I don't think it's a good or bad thing, but count me as one interested party who would appreciate you posting to here any info about the past work of any WGA sculptor. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who is interested in seeing the past work and artistic progression of sculptors/designers whose output I like.

Feel free to share whatever you find.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/27 06:52:58


Post by: Grumpy Gnome


 Eilif wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
 Theophony wrote:


You could see if he has a Facebook page and message him.

No need to give us the answers or updates though.


I cancelled my Facebook account a few years ago. It is not a platform I care to support anymore despite once being a big fan of its convenience. But I do appreciate the suggestion.

As the mod Insaniak has pointed out, my query is not relevant here and will discontinue it. However I felt it only polite to reply to you Theophony as you took the time to post the suggestion.


I don't think it's a good or bad thing, but count me as one interested party who would appreciate you posting to here any info about the past work of any WGA sculptor. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who is interested in seeing the past work and artistic progression of sculptors/designers whose output I like.

Feel free to share whatever you find.


I have decided to generally withdraw from online discussion. Hence I have deleted a number of threads and posts on this and other forums as well as heavily trimmed my blog. However, as you have referenced me directly Eilif I decided it would be impolite to not reply and inform you that I am not be in a position to share information any more.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/27 15:02:34


Post by: Sabotage!


 Gallahad wrote:
 Sabotage! wrote:
Got to say I love the Ooh-Rah and Harvester Bugs......they hit just the right marine/bug aesthetic to me. I've been really looking to cut down my number of projects though, as I don't have time for nearly all of them, but I may just offload a different one to get the gears turning on some bug hunting action.


I'd love to see any photos you have of the bugs...I haven't quite gone over the edge for them, but I think I could be convinced.


If I do end up picking some up I will definitely post some pics. I’ve seen quite a few pics and even a video of the Ooh Rah, but unfortunately nothing on the bugs yet.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/27 19:13:44


Post by: privateer4hire


I ordered a single set of ogre sprues from spruedude since I only wanted one or two.

Really nice figures with a good amount of detail and options for sci-fi and fantasy.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/27 22:11:43


Post by: Sabotage!


Those look great! I haven't personally picked up any WGA stuff yet, but every time I see an in person picture I'm really shocked at how sharp the detail is. Really nice looking Ogres there.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/27 22:35:54


Post by: McDougall Designs


 Sabotage! wrote:
Those look great! I haven't personally picked up any WGA stuff yet, but every time I see an in person picture I'm really shocked at how sharp the detail is. Really nice looking Ogres there.


You can check my profile for my painting blog, the guild myrmidian. Several photos of painted ogres in there, if you want to see other head options, etc in detail.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/02/27 22:54:00


Post by: privateer4hire


 Sabotage! wrote:
Those look great! I haven't personally picked up any WGA stuff yet, but every time I see an in person picture I'm really shocked at how sharp the detail is. Really nice looking Ogres there.


Thanks. Every wga sprue I have picked up has been great. I also have spiders, lizardmen, space dwarves and an unbuilt couple of space nam still NOS.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/02 16:21:44


Post by: legionaires


Has there been any indication that WGA will put the "kits in progress" spreadsheet back up? The Vox Populi was cool but it feels like it's spread too thin to make a huge change in direction. I was intending to throw money at the Afghan Cavalry but it feels like it would be a waste right now as I don't need any else at the moment besides the Afghan and maybe Conquistador Cavalry.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/02 17:14:48


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


I think all the announced kits are now shown on the vox populi pages (42 entries by my count)

although having a link to them under the release list would be good as some folk aren't going to realise where they've gone


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/02 17:31:34


Post by: legionaires


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I think all the announced kits are now shown on the vox populi pages (42 entries by my count)

although having a link to them under the release list would be good as some folk aren't going to realise where they've gone

I'm referring to the old "in progress" list to see if something was still being sculpted, layout, re-designed, etc. I'm just curious how many more years we are going to be waiting for some kits. The Afghan Cavalry was announced at previewed in September 2020.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/02 17:41:11


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


ah, got you,

yes it would be good to have that info whether they give back the old list or just give a 'current status' on the vox populi page for each entry


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/02 21:29:44


Post by: privateer4hire


Some wga space Nam and a sci-fi ogre for skirmish gaming.
Helmets for humans are from Bolt Action US Airborne



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/03 13:50:27


Post by: alphaecho




Heads up to UK gamers who may have advance ordered the Ogres.

I've just been emailed that my order is on the way.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/03 17:40:09


Post by: KidCthulhu


I'm a real big fan of the WGA plastics:





As soon as I get some spare cash, I'm getting me some of the Ogre Landsknechts


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/03 19:07:24


Post by: privateer4hire


Those are really nice, KC.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/06 01:56:51


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The Space Nam conversions with the space ogre…brilliant.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/06 03:12:00


Post by: privateer4hire


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The Space Nam conversions with the space ogre…brilliant.

Thank you.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/07 23:08:27


Post by: legionaires


Are the Ogres the only physical release for the next few months? It seems they are all I see online is Ogre mania.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/08 01:58:55


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


 legionaires wrote:
Are the Ogres the only physical release for the next few months? It seems they are all I see online is Ogre mania.


As far as I am aware, HQ is waiting until current releases are in all 3 warehouses before launching the next wave of preorders


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/08 21:12:08


Post by: privateer4hire


So looks like german sentries and SAS commandos are the next sets


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 05:01:13


Post by: John D Law


Post Apoc troopers? Renegades maybe?

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 05:52:42


Post by: privateer4hire


Looks like ogres


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 06:05:54


Post by: alphaecho


 privateer4hire wrote:
Looks like ogres


But more Chaosy?

When they first showed a close up of the pouch, I was leaning towards a Death Fields Russian themed kit but that weapon looks like the version on The Vain.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 06:29:37


Post by: privateer4hire


Agreed. Plus no filing down the foofee pants if you want sci-fi ogres


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 06:49:25


Post by: alphaecho


 privateer4hire wrote:
Agreed. Plus no filing down the foofee pants if you want sci-fi ogres


The foofee pants aren't a bother as mine are going to be aligned with my Ventrillian Nobles.A bit of frill aligns with the Helmet feather on the troops.

If (still an if) there is a pure Sci fi Ogre set on the horizon, I'm glad I only went for one box of the Landsknecht Ogres.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 07:41:43


Post by: privateer4hire


I’m just hoping they will be boxed physical plastics instead of stl

3D printing is great but I won’t be getting them if they’re just files or prints. I actually enjoyed building my sprue set of fantasy ogres and I normally hate building and painting


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 07:46:58


Post by: alphaecho




Up until now the Friday Email has focused on the actual, plastic side rather than the digital releases hasn't it?

Like you, I'm more for plastic but I do have some printed releases waiting at home for me from Only Games.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 08:38:58


Post by: privateer4hire


You are right. I didn’t realize that it was from the Friday email since my email spam boxed it for the first time. Weird.

The email says “ Another new hard plastic set in the works! ” right under the photo so very hopeful.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 08:43:00


Post by: Gallahad


I'm going to guess WW1 British style halflings...




Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 12:02:15


Post by: lord_blackfang


Gear looks like not-Renegade Guard, proportions look a lot like Landsknech Ogres. Weird.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 12:05:46


Post by: Ian Sturrock


Could be another space dwarf set too, of course, looking at the proportions.

Chaos Einherjar?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 14:43:51


Post by: Smokestack


Definitely looks like ogres. I got 5 boxes of the Landsknecht ogres. Would get a box of this. I can use the 1 billion spare landsknecht parts on these...

I wonder why another box of ogres so soon though. Guess that means Ogre box 1 was successful. But if these are being announced does this mean its being added to the Vox Populi thing or outside of it. Though I doubt it really matters as we are 3 months in and the highest ranking set has 104 votes...

I do hope for some female ogre torsos and heads in this months digital release though. I have a box of Ogres saved just in case.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 14:44:40


Post by: KidCthulhu


The proportions and the ripper gun screams Ogre to me. The weapon looks like the teased Troll renders. So I'm cautiously optimistic for armored Chaos Trolls.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/10 15:16:10


Post by: Arbitrator


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Gear looks like not-Renegade Guard, proportions look a lot like Landsknech Ogres. Weird.

Not-Ogryns then?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 00:31:23


Post by: privateer4hire


Notgryns? Nogryns?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 00:37:48


Post by: lasgunpacker


The sword struck me as being like an orc, specifically the LotR movie Uruk hai.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 01:00:38


Post by: Adeptekon


Wow they've got everything I need. Plus Lizardmen with flint locks, a Halfling militia, and Aztecs.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 02:05:06


Post by: Gallahad


It is crazy that the Ogre's sprue only has two medieval combat weapons but 3! sci Fi guns. Very disappointing and whacky choice. They did the same thing with the Lizardmen.

Stopped me from buying both.


EDIT: THE ABOVE IS TOTALLY WRONG! THERE IS A WHOLE SPRUE I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT. KIT MAKES SENSE!

Egg on my face etc!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 03:10:15


Post by: Eilif


 Gallahad wrote:
It is crazy that the Ogre's sprue only has two medieval combat weapons but 3! sci Fi guns. Very disappointing and whacky choice. They did the same thing with the Lizardmen.

Stopped me from buying both.


The ogre set has two different sprues and far more than 2 medieval weapons.
https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/landsknecht-ogres
What I don't know is how many of the accessory sprues come in the box. Anyone care to share that info?







Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 03:15:49


Post by: privateer4hire


Ogres come on two sprue per 3 figures. Several archaic weapon options spread across both sprues including great sword, pole arms, dagger/short sword, black powder pistols and two handed guns.

Ninja’d


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 03:57:19


Post by: Gallahad


Oh wow, that is good to know. I only saw the sprue with the bodies. That is looking like a much more attractive set.

Will edit my comment above.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 05:15:59


Post by: McDougall Designs


 Gallahad wrote:
Oh wow, that is good to know. I only saw the sprue with the bodies. That is looking like a much more attractive set.

Will edit my comment above.


Its a great set. Easily divisible for unit projects into groups of 3.

Also a hot seller in both forms, despite what people have been saying about the landskneckt look.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 05:58:59


Post by: alphaecho




I wasn't aware of that second sprue.

I was focused on the not-ripper guns as mine will be sci-fi builds. There's a shotgun as well! The extra variety will be nice.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 08:34:43


Post by: privateer4hire


Yessir! And a skabillion heads. So many of those.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 09:17:18


Post by: lord_blackfang


Prophecy tells those ogres (december 2022 release) might even reach the EU someday.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 10:18:46


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 privateer4hire wrote:
Looks like ogres


Maybe non-Landsknecht sci fi ogres?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/11 10:54:27


Post by: alphaecho


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Prophecy tells those ogres (december 2022 release) might even reach the EU someday.


Sarissa has sent them out to the UK. I believe mine have arrived (say believed as a Sarissa labelled box has arrived at home while I'm in the Far East fir the next two months).

They cover the EU distribution for Wargames Atlantic don't they? If so, my fingers are crossed for you. Not in a sarcastic fashion either.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/13 07:21:39


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


https://wargamesatlantic.com/community/xenforum/topic/85784/wargames-atlantic-presents-spring-painting-contest-2023

We happily announce the Wargames Atlantic Spring Painting Competition 2023. This is open to projects using any of our figures, including digital and plastics.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 06:44:36


Post by: John D Law


So they weren’t ogres /vain after all. Had my doubts on that anyway. Seemed more human now we know they are 👍. Space renegades/traitor guard!

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 07:07:51


Post by: Not Online!!!


Wait, are we getting plastic traitor guard or are we stuck with digital there?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 07:19:43


Post by: Albertorius


Not Online!!! wrote:
Wait, are we getting plastic traitor guard or are we stuck with digital there?


This is the PHYSICAL releases thread, right? And the image was posted on their newsletter, not on MMF.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 07:29:49


Post by: Not Online!!!


 Albertorius wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Wait, are we getting plastic traitor guard or are we stuck with digital there?


This is the PHYSICAL releases thread, right? And the image was posted on their newsletter, not on MMF.


Well .. i am a very happy camper then!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 09:23:00


Post by: Shadow Walker


Not Online!!! wrote:
Wait, are we getting plastic traitor guard or are we stuck with digital there?

To quote the newsletter "Another (yes, another) new hard plastic set in the works!'' yep, HIPS it is!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 09:33:01


Post by: lord_blackfang


Fantastic, that's the kind of set that makes people start whole new armies.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 12:11:23


Post by: Goose LeChance


Huh? Were the previous images stretched or something, they looked like ogres before?

Need to see the full pictures


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 15:07:48


Post by: Gadzilla666


John D Law wrote:
So they weren’t ogres /vain after all. Had my doubts on that anyway. Seemed more human now we know they are 👍. Space renegades/traitor guard!

Oooooo......need em now. Now. NOW!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 16:05:43


Post by: alphaecho


Goose LeChance wrote:
Huh? Were the previous images stretched or something, they looked like ogres before?

Need to see the full pictures


Maybe it's a Death Fields range not at all intended as a not-Vraks Renegade army including infantry, command/ heavy options and Notgryns?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 16:07:04


Post by: Not Online!!!


afaik if they are death fields, then i finally have some mates for my old FW renegade command and MG's


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 16:38:32


Post by: Goose LeChance


 alphaecho wrote:
Goose LeChance wrote:
Huh? Were the previous images stretched or something, they looked like ogres before?

Need to see the full pictures


Maybe it's a Death Fields range not at all intended as a not-Vraks Renegade army including infantry, command/ heavy options and Notgryns?


The human infantry or weapon teams, whatever they are, look good, I like the heads a lot. Could be the start of several things for me.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/17 23:02:17


Post by: McDougall Designs


Y'all, there have been 4 teasers images of 3 separate kits over the last few weekly newsletter.

2 looked like infantry

1 looked like ogres

This newest one looks like heavy weapons and gives us a look at heads.

We are seeing multiple kits.

Also

As a way to show how physicals can interact perfectly with the digital side:



Master of the house of Darts. Mainly the Wargames Atlantic plastic Aztecs with a printed head from the digital sacrifice diorama and a back banner from the digital back banner kit.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/20 02:11:25


Post by: legionaires


 McDougall Designs wrote:
Y'all, there have been 4 teasers images of 3 separate kits over the last few weekly newsletter.

2 looked like infantry

1 looked like ogres

This newest one looks like heavy weapons and gives us a look at heads.

We are seeing multiple kits.


Awesome to see this, I know there are folks on FB who kept demanding full ranges, so I think this should help chill that demand.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/20 10:04:19


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


i doubt it sadly as most 40K lists (and thats clearly where they're coming from) need vehicles too even if they don't need any more specialist units


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/20 17:52:01


Post by: Easy E


I am all in on this one!



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/20 18:03:27


Post by: Eilif


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
i doubt it sadly as most 40K lists (and thats clearly where they're coming from) need vehicles too even if they don't need any more specialist units

That's true, but relatively low-distribution proxy vehicles are not really ideal project for plastic injection molding these days.
If (and it's a big if) WGA gets into vehicles it will almost assuredly be via 3d printing.

It's not even a big need these days as the 3d printing world is awash in very nice, affordable 40k proxy vehicles. Lots of great options already available for any of the Death Fields factions.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/20 21:19:19


Post by: Easy E


Plus, building Renegade vehicles is half the fun!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/21 15:57:23


Post by: alphaecho


 Easy E wrote:
Plus, building Renegade vehicles is half the fun!


I have two of the Wolverines from Archon in Blood Pact colours.

Watcorp did a Kickstarter for stalk tank stls.

There is so much fun out there for Renegades.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/23 13:50:53


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured




Posted on facebook, first look at the plastic 'mob' WGA are hopefully going to be producing for Gangs of Rome (and which will then be available as a WGA box)


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/23 14:07:04


Post by: lord_blackfang


I hope it funds, but I have no reason to back Gangs of Rome myself.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/23 15:21:04


Post by: Shadow Walker


Those roman gangsters could be useful for some generic bandits/cultists.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/23 15:25:17


Post by: KidCthulhu


I'm with you, Shadow Walker. I could definitely find uses for those excellent models!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/23 15:37:52


Post by: Easy E


I am interested in any Ancient models they put out.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 04:33:37


Post by: Carlovonsexron


 Shadow Walker wrote:
Those roman gangsters could be useful for some generic bandits/cultists.


I've funded the project to get my hands on these and some of the metal models. They are perfect for low level player characters/mooks in any kind of ancient or conanesq ancient fantasy setting.

I just wish they would make enough to consider doing a female kit as well. (I don't know that they have a plan for this, but a man can dream lol)


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 11:04:17


Post by: Ian Sturrock


Give a few of them pistols and rifles, and they'd make for a pretty decent 30K or Unification Wars militia, too, given the classical allusions of the Imperial Army forces of that era,


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 14:22:49


Post by: Shadow Walker


New SP

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 15:45:05


Post by: RedRowan


They look like Border reivers to me which would be very cool.

Steve


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 15:46:52


Post by: Shadow Walker


 RedRowan wrote:
They look like Border reivers to me which would be very cool.

Steve

I think they are Coquistadors cavalry?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 16:09:23


Post by: Smokestack


Yeah, This is the original pic they showed for the conquistador cavalry a year ago. I hope the doggo made it in to the final layout.


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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 16:11:16


Post by: Shadow Walker


 Smokestack wrote:
I hope the doggo made it in to the final layout.


More plastic dogs the better!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 16:26:33


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Carlovonsexron wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
Those roman gangsters could be useful for some generic bandits/cultists.


I've funded the project to get my hands on these and some of the metal models. They are perfect for low level player characters/mooks in any kind of ancient or conanesq ancient fantasy setting.

I just wish they would make enough to consider doing a female kit as well. (I don't know that they have a plan for this, but a man can dream lol)

There's a few metal female models from the original line already. However, if it's a PYO plastic female kit you want, I agree.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 16:26:56


Post by: Smokestack


 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Smokestack wrote:
I hope the doggo made it in to the final layout.


More plastic dogs the better!


Agreed. Here is a blown up pic of the doggo, and another old pic of the conquistador cavalry they showed a year back.

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/24 16:37:06


Post by: Shadow Walker


They really look good running next to each other.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/25 04:36:09


Post by: RedRowan


 Shadow Walker wrote:
I think they are Coquistadors cavalry?


The sculpts looked different to me. Maybe they have reworked them.

Steve


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/25 13:21:12


Post by: Carlovonsexron


So If anyone is interested in the new romans, but hasnt pledged for the gangs of rome kickstater, you may want to- at £75,000 they plan on making a female kit. And good Gods, plastic women are hard to come by.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/25 13:48:23


Post by: Dawnbringer


Carlovonsexron wrote:
And good Gods, plastic women are hard to come by.


You just aren't checking the right bits of the Internet...


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/03/25 14:12:16


Post by: Carlovonsexron


 Dawnbringer wrote:
Carlovonsexron wrote:
And good Gods, plastic women are hard to come by.


You just aren't checking the right bits of the Internet...


have an exalt!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/03 15:43:31


Post by: KidCthulhu


I can't say enough good things about the Ogre boxed set...



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/03 21:34:06


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


Greetings Tribes Legion,
We have recieved a number of awesome entries to our spring painting competition. It is great to see you printing, painting, and enjoying our digitial kits. Also those working on plastics projects using our products!
Please take a moment and check out the main rules thread to see the categories available. We encourage ALL who want to paint to enter, even if you don't paint to the highest standard.
If you enjoy painting, use the contest as motivation to try a new technique or method. Remember: Its not a pile of shame, its a pile of opportunity.
Submissions are due by 4/15/23, so if you are interested in entering the painting competition, you only have a few weeks left to submit your photos.
There are single model and group categories.
https://wargamesatlantic.com/community/xenforum/topic/85784/wargames-atlantic-presents-spring-painting-contest-2023
See the link above for more information.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/06 18:02:38


Post by: legionaires


John D Law wrote:
So they weren’t ogres /vain after all. Had my doubts on that anyway. Seemed more human now we know they are 👍. Space renegades/traitor guard!

Someone on FB though that these were Reptilian Overlords sculpting and WGA was making them into plastic. They don't look quite the same but I think the RO bits would mix in really nicely.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 03:12:20


Post by: Eilif


 KidCthulhu wrote:
I can't say enough good things about the Ogre boxed set...



I like that quite a bit. Definitely a change from the sort of combinations one expects from a kit like this


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 03:36:02


Post by: alphaecho




New physical releases on Only Games.

Rusiian women's Battalion of Death!

https://only-games.co/products/russian-womens-battalion-of-death



Female Death Fields Rebel Yell.

More future infantry options.

https://only-games.co/products/rebel-yell-2-females


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 04:22:52


Post by: Carlovonsexron


I don't think those count as physical releases


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 06:17:35


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


Carlovonsexron wrote:
I don't think those count as physical releases


Technically they would, as they are a physical option for a digital release item.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 06:30:22


Post by: alphaecho


Carlovonsexron wrote:
I don't think those count as physical releases


They are a physical release because if you click to buy, Only Games send you figures rather than a computer file.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 13:43:15


Post by: Carlovonsexron


I'm not particularly impressed by pawning off 3d prints in lieu of actual multi-part plastic kits.

Like, I wish the best for your company, and in general I'm a fan - but I'm not very interested in 3D prints, and I'd much prefer to just be alerted when an actual new plastic kit shows up.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 13:49:00


Post by: Shadow Walker


Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'm not particularly impressed by pawning off 3d prints in lieu of actual multi-part plastic kits.

Like, I wish the best for your company, and in general I'm a fan - but I'm not very interested in 3D prints, and I'd much prefer to just be alerted when an actual new plastic kit shows up.

I agree with all above.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 13:49:59


Post by: lord_blackfang


OK so let's have three threads for WGA?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 14:02:00


Post by: Shadow Walker


 lord_blackfang wrote:
OK so let's have three threads for WGA?

A good idea But seriously, digital and 3D should be in the same thread. Here we should have only HIPS.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 17:07:35


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'm not particularly impressed by pawning off 3d prints in lieu of actual multi-part plastic kits.

Like, I wish the best for your company, and in general I'm a fan - but I'm not very interested in 3D prints, and I'd much prefer to just be alerted when an actual new plastic kit shows up.


Its not pawning off.

Plastics are a physical product. Physical prints sold of our digital designs sold by Only-Games are a physical product.

They are two separate categories based on material, but they are both physical products.

If this is the physical release thread, releases available in physical form (regardless of category) will be posted here. If @Kid_Kyoto or the mod team says otherwise, the official Wargames Atlantic account will adjust where posts are made based on the mod teams decision.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 19:01:52


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Shadow Walker wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
OK so let's have three threads for WGA?

A good idea But seriously, digital and 3D should be in the same thread. Here we should have only HIPS.


This makes no sense. Digital was moved away because people without printers didn't want discussion domonated by items they had no access to, but this limitation does not apply to prints on demand. Who, then, should prints on demand be marketed to, if not the people who don't have printers and so follow only the physical thread?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 19:58:40


Post by: Garfield666


I honestly get both points.
But would you consider MP3 downloads physical media because you can burn them on a CD?

So, what's new on the HIPS front? I am looking forward to many sets that were sculpted years ago and have been put on the back burner it seems... bring us some news please


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 20:14:14


Post by: alphaecho


 Garfield666 wrote:
I honestly get both points.
But would you consider MP3 downloads physical media because you can burn them on a CD?

So, what's new on the HIPS front? I am looking forward to many sets that were sculpted years ago and have been put on the back burner it seems... bring us some news please


Not the same thing.

Only Games sells the customer a physical product not the stl files to print out yourself or go to a third party printing service.

As for HIPS products, I believe WA were going to announce the next preorder once the current gang of plastic products were in the shops.

Hopefully that might be in May as it looks like the SAS and German sentries are estimated to be out by the end of April.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/07 20:49:52


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Garfield666 wrote:
I honestly get both points.
But would you consider MP3 downloads physical media because you can burn them on a CD?


The correct analogy would be exactly opposite: is a CD not a physical item because the music was recorded digitally?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/08 04:16:10


Post by: insaniak


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Garfield666 wrote:
I honestly get both points.
But would you consider MP3 downloads physical media because you can burn them on a CD?


The correct analogy would be exactly opposite: is a CD not a physical item because the music was recorded digitally?

An even closer analogy would involve a company that was burning cds as they are ordered rather than having them mass produced. What you get is still a physical CD.

'Physical product' doesn't just mean 'plastic'... metal and resin models are also physical products, and 3d printing is ultimately just resin produced by a newer process. Print-on-demand is increasingly going to replace traditional resin and metal production.

We don't separate any other manufacturer into separate threads for each different material they use, so I don't see any reason to do so here.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/08 07:03:57


Post by: Albertorius


 Garfield666 wrote:
I honestly get both points.
But would you consider MP3 downloads physical media because you can burn them on a CD?

So, what's new on the HIPS front? I am looking forward to many sets that were sculpted years ago and have been put on the back burner it seems... bring us some news please


If someone else, licensed by the record firm, is doing the burning... yes. It's what you usually call "buying a CD".

Print on Demand is as much a way to do business as producing everything from a single location.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/08 14:58:53


Post by: Carlovonsexron


 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'm not particularly impressed by pawning off 3d prints in lieu of actual multi-part plastic kits.

Like, I wish the best for your company, and in general I'm a fan - but I'm not very interested in 3D prints, and I'd much prefer to just be alerted when an actual new plastic kit shows up.


Its not pawning off.

Plastics are a physical product. Physical prints sold of our digital designs sold by Only-Games are a physical product.

They are two separate categories based on material, but they are both physical products.

If this is the physical release thread, releases available in physical form (regardless of category) will be posted here. If @Kid_Kyoto or the mod team says otherwise, the official Wargames Atlantic account will adjust where posts are made based on the mod teams decision.


Well, I think i did come in too harsh initially, and I am sorry about that.

That said, I'm still not really keen on seeing these two things (resin prints and hard plastic kits) as equivocal. Sure, you can get the resin prints as a physical product, but it's not a far different comparison to Games Workshop plastic kits vs resin/fine cast. Sure they are both types of physical models, but the one that gets people excited is the hard plastic kit - and for good reason, they are so much easier to work with for conversions, stronger/more durable bonds between individual pieces using plastic, typically plastic being the stronger material is something falls of the table, etc.

When I think of WGA, I still think of the company I initially got very enamored with, a new and exciting plastic kit company doing things nobody else was. I'm happy for any successes you guy have with you 3d printed arm of things, but I'm not sure that posting links to places you can get those designs printed out from are really any different from the regular old digital links...

considering the link provided is just the arm of my minifactory that provides physical 3D prints.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/08 15:52:21


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


Carlovonsexron wrote:
 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'm not particularly impressed by pawning off 3d prints in lieu of actual multi-part plastic kits.

Like, I wish the best for your company, and in general I'm a fan - but I'm not very interested in 3D prints, and I'd much prefer to just be alerted when an actual new plastic kit shows up.


Its not pawning off.

Plastics are a physical product. Physical prints sold of our digital designs sold by Only-Games are a physical product.

They are two separate categories based on material, but they are both physical products.

If this is the physical release thread, releases available in physical form (regardless of category) will be posted here. If @Kid_Kyoto or the mod team says otherwise, the official Wargames Atlantic account will adjust where posts are made based on the mod teams decision.


Well, I think i did come in too harsh initially, and I am sorry about that.

That said, I'm still not really keen on seeing these two things (resin prints and hard plastic kits) as equivocal. Sure, you can get the resin prints as a physical product, but it's not a far different comparison to Games Workshop plastic kits vs resin/fine cast. Sure they are both types of physical models, but the one that gets people excited is the hard plastic kit - and for good reason, they are so much easier to work with for conversions, stronger/more durable bonds between individual pieces using plastic, typically plastic being the stronger material is something falls of the table, etc.

When I think of WGA, I still think of the company I initially got very enamored with, a new and exciting plastic kit company doing things nobody else was. I'm happy for any successes you guy have with you 3d printed arm of things, but I'm not sure that posting links to places you can get those designs printed out from are really any different from the regular old digital links...

considering the link provided is just the arm of my minifactory that provides physical 3D prints.



Hi there. No apologies necessary. I just wanted to address your concern.

1. No one said plastic and resin miniatures are equivocal. They are two separate types of physical Miniatures.

2. My mini factory's only-games is our licensed/partnered dealer of physical models from our Atlantic digital line. I don't understand what point your last paragraph is trying to make. Could you please clarify?

3.


When I think of WGA, I still think of the company I initially got very enamored with, a new and exciting plastic kit company doing things nobody else was


Emphasis via bolding my own. Wargames Atlantic is a miniatures company. Wargames Atlantic has not stated that it is a plastics exclusive miniatures company the company expanded to make use of a popular alternative production method, 3D printing.

For those without printers, Wargames Atlantic offer physical prints through a licensed vendor. This is prevalent across the industry, however Wargames Atlantic has initially chosen only-games as a single provider of physical models.

This is in contrast to an option more prevalent in the 3D printing world: that of a merchant license available to multiple merchants, with limited potential input on quality of finished product sold to end users.

but the one that gets people excited is the hard plastic kit


If this were true, resin would not be a viable material for miniatures in terms of marketability.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/08 16:43:21


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Wow, I already have a headache.

I tend to agree, if a company is selling physical prints then it should go here, it's not plastic sprues but it is a physical product anyone can order and get.

When Mantic or Northstar do resin add on packs do we need a different thread?

I dunno, any real dissent?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/08 17:41:36


Post by: Garfield666


Whew, alot of mental gymnastics and sneed here...
In the end I don't care. I like WA and have most of their kits. I am looking forward to their future HIPS stuff, but I have zero interest in this thread anymore, that has mostly STL stuff or advertisement for a company that does overpriced printouts for brits.

This thread offers nothing the Friday email by WA doesn't offer earlier.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/08 23:38:53


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


 Garfield666 wrote:
Whew, alot of mental gymnastics and sneed here...
In the end I don't care. I like WA and have most of their kits. I am looking forward to their future HIPS stuff, but I have zero interest in this thread anymore, that has mostly STL stuff or advertisement for a company that does overpriced printouts for brits.

This thread offers nothing the Friday email by WA doesn't offer earlier.


This thread is a discussion thread for news related to Wargames Atlantic physical products.

The Friday newsletter is one of the ways HQ releases news/news-related info like teaser images.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/09 03:22:36


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Is every digital offering going to be offered as a 3D print? If so, why did you even separate the threads if you’re just going to double post everything here?

I thought the whole point of separating the threads was to avoid killing interest in Wargames Atlantic’s primary product, the plastics. By filling the thread with noise, you destroy its purpose.

Why not simply add a reminder in the it of the digital thread that they can be printed via Only Games? A single sentence appended to every new promo image could serve notice that they will also be available as a 3D print. Or you can change this thread to Wargames Atlantics HIPS Releases. Something to retain customer interest.

By reposting all of the digital files (printed now!) here, aren’t you negating any benefit to making a separate thread for Digital news and rumors?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/09 07:33:36


Post by: alphaecho




Wargames Atlantic didn't post anything here.

I added an update about two new printed products from Only Games and the Internet has been the Internet.

I have no interest is collecting lots of digital files that I then have to find someone to print for me.

Therefore, I keep an eye on Only Games to see if anything new comes out that I want and I shared the news of a new physical product.

In answer to your question, Only Games offer 35 printed products. The actual number of digital files available far outstrips that total.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/09 08:00:06


Post by: Albertorius


Carlovonsexron wrote:

That said, I'm still not really keen on seeing these two things (resin prints and hard plastic kits) as equivocal. Sure, you can get the resin prints as a physical product, but it's not a far different comparison to Games Workshop plastic kits vs resin/fine cast. Sure they are both types of physical models, but the one that gets people excited is the hard plastic kit - and for good reason, they are so much easier to work with for conversions, stronger/more durable bonds between individual pieces using plastic, typically plastic being the stronger material is something falls of the table, etc.

So it actually is exactly like GW, then, as all the HH, Necromunda and AT threads show: what gets people excited is the plastic kits, and disappointment sets in when they are told that a release is in resin.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/10 16:02:40


Post by: Ragsta



Why is everyone screaming I came here for renegade Guard


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/21 18:10:42


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 03:55:45


Post by: legionaires


[Edit] sorry had an image from the new Friday newsletter but I can't reduce the file size on my phone and the link is 10 lines of garbage.

Corrupted/Renegade Guard Cavalry in the Friday newsletter.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 04:45:03


Post by: lord_blackfang




So that's 3 kits spoiled so far for this faction, looks like WGA is going all in on renegade guard. And just when the HH army list for it came out


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 06:59:54


Post by: Not Online!!!


Happy Camper i am, so HWT, Infantry and cavalry.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 08:15:32


Post by: Shadow Walker


Renegades look to be a very popular buy from WGA once they are released.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 08:34:38


Post by: GreenScorpion


 lord_blackfang wrote:


So that's 3 kits spoiled so far for this faction, looks like WGA is going all in on renegade guard. And just when the HH army list for it came out


While the things they have shown seem nice, I do wonder when any of this will actually appear in the wild.
To be honest it seems like they have lots of logistical issues even with their digital releases so we will likely see a GW traitor guard codex/supplement before these renegades reach plastic.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 12:49:12


Post by: legionaires


 GreenScorpion wrote:


While the things they have shown seem nice, I do wonder when any of this will actually appear in the wild.
To be honest it seems like they have lots of logistical issues even with their digital releases so we will likely see a GW traitor guard codex/supplement before these renegades reach plastic.

Yeah, I'm in that same boat. I've been waiting on their Afghan Cavalry for over a year myself. It was digitally previewed in September 2020 with a sprue shown in 2021 but since then, crickets. I love their stuff but I wish they would bring back the production timeline for upcoming products.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 14:46:46


Post by: McDougall Designs


 legionaires wrote:
 GreenScorpion wrote:


While the things they have shown seem nice, I do wonder when any of this will actually appear in the wild.
To be honest it seems like they have lots of logistical issues even with their digital releases so we will likely see a GW traitor guard codex/supplement before these renegades reach plastic.

Yeah, I'm in that same boat. I've been waiting on their Afghan Cavalry for over a year myself. It was digitally previewed in September 2020 with a sprue shown in 2021 but since then, crickets. I love their stuff but I wish they would bring back the production timeline for upcoming products.


Just to note: Wargames atlantic is currently moving to a different production schedule. They are ramping up to one box release per month, according to Hudson on facebook.

The wait on plastics seems to be mixed between that and your standard delays of revisions, engineering, and freight shipment of various things.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 14:57:01


Post by: Dawnbringer


 McDougall Designs wrote:


Just to note: Wargames atlantic is currently moving to a different production schedule. They are ramping up to one box release per month, according to Hudson on facebook.

The wait on plastics seems to be mixed between that and your standard delays of revisions, engineering, and freight shipment of various things.


Didn't they also move to a production supplier east of the Pacific? I seem to recall that being a thing but could be mistaken. If so I can see there being a delay to new sets actually being produced as the new supper gets up to speed.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 15:21:48


Post by: GreenScorpion


 McDougall Designs wrote:

Just to note: Wargames atlantic is currently moving to a different production schedule. They are ramping up to one box release per month, according to Hudson on facebook.

The wait on plastics seems to be mixed between that and your standard delays of revisions, engineering, and freight shipment of various things.


There have always been delays from the start due to how they handled their pre-order system.
Hudson has mentioned that they would change to a roughly same time pre-order system where stock is allocated and distributed before the ordering starts in order to reduce the amount of times people in certain regions take 4, 5 or 6 months to get their pre-orders or their orders with stuff that went out of stock (waiting periods based on complaints from users of the Wargames Atlantic forum).
The issue seems to be that despite owning the production now on the US, they still have no real logistics planning in place to prevent things from going out of stock for a quarter of the year and that has affected the new releases more than the natural time that needs to be spent on the several stages before something is released.

The main issue with the company seems to be that they try to do a lot of stuff at the same time, but they are not experienced or capable enough to handle everything.
Hopefully this situation will improve but for now not even the digital deliveries can be expected to be on time, so even the logistics of digital files need to be improved.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 15:27:31


Post by: legionaires


 McDougall Designs wrote:
 legionaires wrote:
 GreenScorpion wrote:


While the things they have shown seem nice, I do wonder when any of this will actually appear in the wild.
To be honest it seems like they have lots of logistical issues even with their digital releases so we will likely see a GW traitor guard codex/supplement before these renegades reach plastic.

Yeah, I'm in that same boat. I've been waiting on their Afghan Cavalry for over a year myself. It was digitally previewed in September 2020 with a sprue shown in 2021 but since then, crickets. I love their stuff but I wish they would bring back the production timeline for upcoming products.


Just to note: Wargames atlantic is currently moving to a different production schedule. They are ramping up to one box release per month, according to Hudson on facebook.

The wait on plastics seems to be mixed between that and your standard delays of revisions, engineering, and freight shipment of various things.

I missed that post, but at this point I have given up on this kit ever coming out. Between other kits that were shown at the same time already coming out (but based on the old schedulethis kit stayed in sculpting hell), the left field kits like the new Brits that were teased, and the complete lack of out interest from the Vox Populi, I don't see why WGA would waste time coming back to this kit now even though there was a physical sprue shown.

And just to add tone to my post, I'm not mad. I'm aware that businesses have to make hard decisions. I'm just let down is all as there is a lack of good non-armored cavalry that fit perfectly for what Im looking for. But I am also aware I'm just a single customer and based on the Vox Populi, noone else is interested in this kit. I would be excited about the new Rebel line that is being teased but again, we have no clue how long we will have to wait till a release.

Thanks for responding though.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 15:59:24


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


From Facebook, some teasers for upcoming plastics.

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 16:44:16


Post by: Talking Banana


I know these not-Traitor guys are meant to be regimental troopers wearing the same uniform, but given their ragged n' ratty look, I'm wondering how well they will scale and kitbash with the Broken from Maelstrom's Edge.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/28 21:50:11


Post by: Ragsta


Cool idea from Talking Banana there actually.

Quite honestly all the sneak peaks for these renegade types looks appealing… I may finally invest


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/29 07:40:32


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
From Facebook, some teasers for upcoming plastics.


I really hope when these come out they do in close succession so folks can actually plan armes with full knowledge of which units are gonna be covered

(versus the infantry kit releasing now and heavy weapons maybe next year if the first one sells well)


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/29 07:49:06


Post by: Shadow Walker


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
From Facebook, some teasers for upcoming plastics.


I really hope when these come out they do in close succession so folks can actually plan armes with full knowledge of which units are gonna be covered

(versus the infantry kit releasing now and heavy weapons maybe next year if the first one sells well)

Yeah, this!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/29 17:11:43


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/a-fireside-chat

Hudson has turned on the radio and broadcast a fireside chat.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/29 21:12:43


Post by: lord_blackfang


People should read the whole thing but this is the big news probably regarding the renegade guard of which we've seen at least 3 kits teased in Friday newsletters

Secret Project

We’ve been hard at work on a secret project in partnership with a well-known tabletop gaming content brand. The goal of the project is to do something we’ve never done before and bring out an entire Death Fields army in one shot through a crowdfunding campaign. And by army we mean 6+ hard plastic sets in one shot! We’ll be making an announcement about this soon but we’re within a few weeks of launch so you’ll be hearing a LOT about it.


Get yer wallets ready!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/30 03:58:23


Post by: Gallahad


Woah, that sounds pretty exciting!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/04/30 07:25:40


Post by: alphaecho


 lord_blackfang wrote:
People should read the whole thing but this is the big news probably regarding the renegade guard of which we've seen at least 3 kits teased in Friday newsletters

Secret Project

We’ve been hard at work on a secret project in partnership with a well-known tabletop gaming content brand. The goal of the project is to do something we’ve never done before and bring out an entire Death Fields army in one shot through a crowdfunding campaign. And by army we mean 6+ hard plastic sets in one shot! We’ll be making an announcement about this soon but we’re within a few weeks of launch so you’ll be hearing a LOT about it.


Get yer wallets ready!


Infantry.
Command/ Heavy weapons.
Ogres.
Cavalry.

Split Command & Heavy into two sets rather than follow the Les Grognards example gives five kits.

Different types of Infantry for example a standard set of traitors plus a more 'elite' unit? Think Blood Pact as Tempestus equivalent vs standard Renegades.

Renegade Halfling Snipers?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/01 03:07:45


Post by: Eilif


Wow. That is exciting news.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/01 08:38:03


Post by: lord_blackfang


Yea so I've been disparaging the whales who are gonna buy 50 boxes of GW chaff to build Horus Heresy Militia (and probably not even unwrap 49 of them) but here I am, ready to buy the whole range if Atlantic is doing a Kickstarter.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/01 09:32:35


Post by: alphaecho




If a gamer is after a large sci-human army, a 24 - 30 model box for around £25 is a no-brainer especially if said gamer is not reliant on a GW store for gaming and isn't interested in tournaments.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/01 09:56:05


Post by: lord_blackfang


Especially if they're doing a whole range at once with weapon teams, command, cavalry, ogryn, etc!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/03 22:39:17


Post by: McDougall Designs




New information from Hudson.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 12:25:57


Post by: lord_blackfang


8 seems like a lot for one project. I'd say either it includes tanks or there's two opposing factions.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 12:29:47


Post by: Not Online!!!


Well.
infantry, cavalry and HWT are 3.
Assuming separate command instead of grognard we would be at 4 kits?ogres`5

To be a fully fledged army, it would then require a transportation vehicle. 6. A mbt 7. A reconnaisance vehicle/ and or artillery 8.


Also i think those drummag shotguns are ogre equivalents due to the detail being not present on the leg armor on the infantry and cavalry (talking about the small screw dots)

Assuming of course they follow the rough outlines of modern combined arms and army forces.
Alternativly we could see an elite infantry kit instead of reconnaisance?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 13:00:25


Post by: alphaecho


Not Online!!! wrote:
Well.
infantry, cavalry and HWT are 3.
Assuming separate command instead of grognard we would be at 4 kits?ogres`5

To be a fully fledged army, it would then require a transportation vehicle. 6. A mbt 7. A reconnaisance vehicle/ and or artillery 8.


Also i think those drummag shotguns are ogre equivalents due to the detail being not present on the leg armor on the infantry and cavalry (talking about the small screw dots)

Assuming of course they follow the rough outlines of modern combined arms and army forces.
Alternativly we could see an elite infantry kit instead of reconnaisance?


As I mentioned earlier, I was thinking along the lines of a Blood Pact type or a Renegade Tempestus equivalent.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 13:03:55


Post by: lord_blackfang


I'm going to say 2 factions each with Infantry, Cavalry, Heavy Weapons and Ogres. Feel free to make fun of me later.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 13:13:50


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


8...

Assuming the prior ' no tanks' policy holds how about:

Slaves/cannon fodder
Infantry
Heavy/elite infantry
heavy weapons
Cavalry
Ogres
Command

And still got one more slot... Ratmen commandos?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 13:24:26


Post by: Not Online!!!


WGA has a no tank policy?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 14:26:58


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Was it explicitly stated that this secret project was going to be scifi?

I don't remember reading that, but I don't recall anything being said what sort of trappings this project would fall under.

I'll admit, my first thought was more historical kits with terrain or something, a "battle in a box" type deal.

This is what happens when you skim things in a hurry though, so feel free to chastise me for being completely in the wrong.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 14:58:29


Post by: Easy E


I want these..... I want these real, real bad..... and I don't even play 40K anymore.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 16:14:48


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


Since they have sculpted an Italian Carro Veloce 33 tankette (if only for digital release), there's a chance of a light scout vehicle like a dune buggy or trike. That assumes this is a sci-fi release. If fantasy or pre-gunpowder era historical, I could see this as:

I. Heavy line Infantry {Roman legionaries, Macedonian Phalangites, Chinese Warring States Infantry with polearms, or similar units who would have been the backbone of a force}.
II. Missile troops.
III. Command with bodyguard unit. {Anglo-Saxon King with Huscarls, Sengoku era daimyo with yojimbos and similar}
IV. Cavalry.

Like lord_blackfang, I think this might be a two sides of the same period/war release, so then the above would be mirrored.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 18:13:21


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I doubt it will fit historical modes of combat. Looks like you’ll get chaotic/post-apoc troops, HW/command, ogryns and cavalry from the images released so far. Speculation on the other four items seems to fit the “whole army in one campaign” mold rather than the “two forces starter box” mold, but who knows?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 19:11:59


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I doubt it will fit historical modes of combat. Looks like you’ll get chaotic/post-apoc troops, HW/command, ogryns and cavalry from the images released so far. Speculation on the other four items seems to fit the “whole army in one campaign” mold rather than the “two forces starter box” mold, but who knows?
Actually, I agree on the sci-fi aspect based on the previews. However, since there is no confirmation on the genre, I was speculating on other possibilities.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 20:01:53


Post by: privateer4hire


While this is all interesting, the real question is: “When are the Quar going to be available?”


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 20:21:44


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


 privateer4hire wrote:
While this is all interesting, the real question is: “When are the Quar going to be available?”


No release date information, however HQ says they are still in progress.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 21:01:00


Post by: privateer4hire


Awesome to hear. I was half joking but I appreciate the response


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/04 22:47:49


Post by: alphaecho


 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm going to say 2 factions each with Infantry, Cavalry, Heavy Weapons and Ogres. Feel free to make fun of me later.


A Death Fields starter box type thing?

Guess we find out on Monday.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/05 06:07:29


Post by: John D Law


You forgot the rest 👍

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/05 06:16:22


Post by: Not Online!!!


That... Looks promising!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/05 15:08:28


Post by: kestral


I would buy plastic Quar!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/05 21:01:12


Post by: Garrac


Games Workshop: Nah, we're not going to release a Renegades&Heretics army

Wargames Atlantic:


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/05 21:30:42


Post by: Eilif


 privateer4hire wrote:
While this is all interesting, the real question is: “When are the Quar going to be available?”


That was my question too but then I stumbled into a whine bunch of metal Quar for a good price. Might not even use them all -and I'll probably spring for a few plastic- but my Quar needs have been well seen to.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/05 21:39:03


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I hope they tell us when the Quar are two weeks away so we can make all the puns.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/05 22:21:03


Post by: Kid_Kyoto




Looking closely at the silhouette and based on some of the visual cues I think it is vaguely possible we're looking at some sort of spiky evil human army.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/05 22:39:35


Post by: ScarletRose


I'm really excited for this, my Iron Warriors could use some chaff to storm the walls.

WA already gives good value for the money so I'm hoping this crowdfunding will be a nice way to pick up an entire army.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/06 05:03:50


Post by: Garrac


Well, this is... interesting

Spoiler:



Ok, Im gonna fall. Female infantry and command squad are the correct guesses, and the other 2 remaining kits are a Men Chaos Rabble and female Chaos Rabble


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/06 05:57:09


Post by: alphaecho


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:


Looking closely at the silhouette and based on some of the visual cues I think it is vaguely possible we're looking at some sort of spiky evil human army.


I'd go for "not-Vraks so much cheaper than the now OOP Forgeworld version coming at the right time for the Heresy Militia list " army.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 09:53:37


Post by: Perfect Organism


Garrac wrote:
Well, this is... interesting

Spoiler:



Ok, Im gonna fall. Female infantry and command squad are the correct guesses, and the other 2 remaining kits are a Men Chaos Rabble and female Chaos Rabble


Female versions of those guys seem rather unnecessary, given that their costume is bulky and ill-fitting enough to hide body shape and their faces aren't visible. It's possible there will be some more scantily-clad 'rabble' which come in male and female varieties, but the basic infantry don't look like they need different models for different genders.

I suspect that the correct guesses were command (seems like a sure thing) and a vehicle (a bigger leap, but it's a very broad category, including small stuff like buggies, scout walkers, etc.)

One of the sneak peaks (upper right next to the cavalry) has a shell which seems too big for a standard mortar. Possibly some kind of larger artillery piece? Could either be a carriage-mounted weapon or a vehicle.

Other possibilities: midget scout-snipers, mutants (possibly bestial mutants), animals (probably dogs), special characters (like psis or assassins), or more vehicles.

My guesses (something of a wish-list, really) are going to be command squad (possibly including options for medics, enforcers, and psis), a large multi-purpose vehicle kit (which can build an APC, light tank, or SPG), midget snipers, and mutant attack dogs (which will be the one they didn't expect to be guessed).

Regardless, I'm almost certainly going to back this and try to get at least one of every kit. The previews look absolutely fantastic.

Is anyone else curious about which company they are partnered with for this? Style-wise, looks like it could be Anvil Industry.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 11:38:39


Post by: Not Online!!!


my question is not which company, so long it is not an outright scumba company, my question is, when can i shovel money in low ammounts (considering average WGA pricing) down their throat and get my unskilled mittens on the pieces of plastic.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 12:53:14


Post by: Eilif


I'm mildly curious to see how partnering with another company will affect the price per standard human figure. It's not at all unaffordable, but they hit $2 each with Space Nam.

I assume the partner's desire for figure options (affecting how many will fit in a box), profit sharing and desire not to completely undercut the price of their existing lines could all figure into it.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 14:38:31


Post by: Garrac




I mean, it doesnt have to be all full vraks heads, i bet therell also be enough unmasked heads for a full unit, with mutations and the such.

I thought about vehicles too, with a transport around there, but WA doesnt seem very interested on releasing vehicles, am i right?

Alltho, i coincide about dogs and chaos rabble options where they could put a feminine variant, one of those two might actually be on the final project.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 16:50:49


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


vehicles (decent ones anyway) will need a lot more sprues/sprue space than troops so would need to be sold for a higher price,

and may well be less popular than troops in terms of how many boxes you'll sell to each buyer, also meaning a higher price

and based on what Hudson has said were the challenges in getting the US casting folk up to speed and able to match what the previous Chinese casters were able to do, giving them something where the sprues and plastic flow will be significantly different from what they can now do probably means a lot more time getting that aspect of things right too

so i think it's not so much a lack of interest more a sensible business move for now (but if the KS does well that might give them the leeway to bypass these issues, if not immediately but maybe on a subsequent one to add vehicles to a 'complete' line of troops)


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 17:50:48


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


With the Russian Technolog line now basically out of reach for most of us there is a niche for a cheap vehicle line.

A mini APC or tank can be done on one sprue, if the Russians could do it so can WGA.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 18:15:30


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Oh 'allo

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=934885731242448&set=a.369710717759955

Cult of Paint - Sneak peak of a fantastic new project we're working on for Wargames Atlantic and @miniwargaming. Lots more to follow! #TheDammed #cultist #wargaming #postapocalypse #scifi #miniaturepaintning

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Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 18:35:43


Post by: Shadow Walker


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Oh 'allo

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=934885731242448&set=a.369710717759955

Cult of Paint - Sneak peak of a fantastic new project we're working on for Wargames Atlantic and @miniwargaming. Lots more to follow! #TheDammed #cultist #wargaming #postapocalypse #scifi #miniaturepaintning

Sweet! I can see many not Blood Pact armies in the future.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 21:34:39


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


 Eilif wrote:
I'm mildly curious to see how partnering with another company will affect the price per standard human figure. It's not at all unaffordable, but they hit $2 each with Space Nam.

I assume the partner's desire for figure options (affecting how many will fit in a box), profit sharing and desire not to completely undercut the price of their existing lines could all figure into it.



The space nam price was not up to Wargames Atlantic. That was a reptilian overlords decision, as it is their kit. Wargames Atlantic manufacturers it.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Garrac wrote:


I mean, it doesnt have to be all full vraks heads, i bet therell also be enough unmasked heads for a full unit, with mutations and the such.

I thought about vehicles too, with a transport around there, but WA doesnt seem very interested on releasing vehicles, am i right?

Alltho, i coincide about dogs and chaos rabble options where they could put a feminine variant, one of those two might actually be on the final project.


Never say never!


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/07 22:48:39


Post by: legionaires


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Oh 'allo

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=934885731242448&set=a.369710717759955

Cult of Paint - Sneak peak of a fantastic new project we're working on for Wargames Atlantic and @miniwargaming. Lots more to follow! #TheDammed #cultist #wargaming #postapocalypse #scifi #miniaturepaintning

I hope this isn't a limited run because as soon as I financial recover from this month's bills, I want that.

These are still multi part kits, correct?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 00:51:40


Post by: Smokestack


Crap. I went big on Zombicide and was saving for the next Assassin's creed kickstarter, but I will likely spend my Assassins creed money on the WA kickstarter. Oh, well...


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 02:11:23


Post by: privateer4hire


 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Oh 'allo

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=934885731242448&set=a.369710717759955

Cult of Paint - Sneak peak of a fantastic new project we're working on for Wargames Atlantic and @miniwargaming. Lots more to follow! #TheDammed #cultist #wargaming #postapocalypse #scifi #miniaturepaintning

Sweet! I can see many not Blood Pact armies in the future.


Get me the codex department please:
Hey, Joe. It’s Pete. Looks like a US company is going to make some very affordable chaos humans in plastic in the next few months or maybe a year.

Yeah. I know. It could really mess up our FOMO strategy.
People buying from anywhere else but us is a nonstarter.

What do we do?
Why we nerf bat the hell out of any army that could use them and make more marines.

Okay. Oh, while I have you on the phone, what does the AI think about our idea to make editions only valid for two years…


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 02:56:37


Post by: Eilif


 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
 Eilif wrote:
I'm mildly curious to see how partnering with another company will affect the price per standard human figure. It's not at all unaffordable, but they hit $2 each with Space Nam.

I assume the partner's desire for figure options (affecting how many will fit in a box), profit sharing and desire not to completely undercut the price of their existing lines could all figure into it.



The space nam price was not up to Wargames Atlantic. That was a reptilian overlords decision, as it is their kit. Wargames Atlantic manufacturers it.


Interesting, in light of...
a secret project in partnership with a well-known tabletop gaming content brand.


... Are we to assume the kit design, contents and price are primarily in WGA hands?





That looks fantastic. I don't have use for another IG Army, but I should at minimum be in for a set of rough riders, something my gas masked IG Army is sorely lacking.

Very excited.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 03:32:35


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


They said they were in partnership with miniwargaming. What do they do?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 03:40:34


Post by: privateer4hire


Play and call it work?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 03:51:25


Post by: Ancestral Hamster


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
They said they were in partnership with miniwargaming. What do they do?

I don't know if this is the correct MiniWarGaming, but they have on Gamefound this project, Ravaged Star: Armies of the Veil-Touched. They also do Youtube videos, and I found a completed Indiegogo campaign that upgraded their studio and equipment.

Since the Veil-touched are reminiscent of Chaos Marines with some demon retainers, I suppose MiniWarGaming could partner with WGA to make Veil-tainted human troopers. MWG doing the design, and WGA producing the final product.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 05:14:53


Post by: privateer4hire


If WGA also makes their not chaos marines in plastic at some point, that would be really.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 05:18:27


Post by: Sgt. Cortez


 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
They said they were in partnership with miniwargaming. What do they do?

I don't know if this is the correct MiniWarGaming, but they have on Gamefound this project, Ravaged Star: Armies of the Veil-Touched. They also do Youtube videos, and I found a completed Indiegogo campaign that upgraded their studio and equipment.

Since the Veil-touched are reminiscent of Chaos Marines with some demon retainers, I suppose MiniWarGaming could partner with WGA to make Veil-tainted human troopers. MWG doing the design, and WGA producing the final product.


MWG doesn't have designers, though. For the Veil touched they partnered with a designer, basically they did the commercials for the designer.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 08:01:03


Post by: Wargames Atlantic


legionaires wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Oh 'allo

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=934885731242448&set=a.369710717759955

Cult of Paint - Sneak peak of a fantastic new project we're working on for Wargames Atlantic and @miniwargaming. Lots more to follow! #TheDammed #cultist #wargaming #postapocalypse #scifi #miniaturepaintning

I hope this isn't a limited run because as soon as I financial recover from this month's bills, I want that.

These are still multi part kits, correct?


Correct.

Eilif wrote:
 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
 Eilif wrote:
I'm mildly curious to see how partnering with another company will affect the price per standard human figure. It's not at all unaffordable, but they hit $2 each with Space Nam.

I assume the partner's desire for figure options (affecting how many will fit in a box), profit sharing and desire not to completely undercut the price of their existing lines could all figure into it.



The space nam price was not up to Wargames Atlantic. That was a reptilian overlords decision, as it is their kit. Wargames Atlantic manufacturers it.


Interesting, in light of...
a secret project in partnership with a well-known tabletop gaming content brand.


... Are we to assume the kit design, contents and price are primarily in WGA hands?

As far as the team member responding to this message is aware, the new kits are 100% Wargames Atlantic.



That looks fantastic. I don't have use for another IG Army, but I should at minimum be in for a set of rough riders, something my gas masked IG Army is sorely lacking.

Very excited.



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 08:11:07


Post by: Garrac


Not gonna lie, i have a window open, and im constantly refreshing. Looking forward

Spoiler:
(also, btw, i love companies that stop for a minute to put women models on their lines! I really wanna have an all equal Chaos army with the three genders: men, women, and ¿¿¿¿¿?????)


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 11:54:42


Post by: KipCujo


Models are looking great! I think its underrated that the "ragged" details are just plentiful enough to look ragtag, but sparse enough to not be a nightmare to fill with putty to maybe go for a more regimented look too.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 13:01:13


Post by: legionaires


Do we have a time frame for the announcement?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 16:41:44


Post by: Garrac


Well, seems like the crowdfunding may be released on USA horary, so it's highly possible it comes late on the night for us europeans, so we'll wake up with the news.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 21:04:23


Post by: beast_gts


Wargames Atlantic wrote:Game Found campaign coming in hot at the end of May!


MiniWarGaming wrote:The Damned… are coming!

When I saw this I knew my involvement was bound to manifest.

Whether it was with @wargamesatlantic proper or not the universe would materialize one way or another lol.

It happens to be made by them. In either case I’d be curious to have it painted by @cultofpaint. I enjoy their grimdark styles.
This is bc my buddy Gaz told me they were being painted by them. And he literally just “don’t blame me for this!”
This is where I replied “just try and control the CHAOS!!!!!” To which he said “🙄” and then came the instant rush of warm fuzzies + dopamine.
My daily mission objectives were achieved: find a new way to generate that delicious life energy.

We @miniwargaming are teaming up with @wargamesatlantic on a project that’s near and dear to my chaotic heart! Lol.

Dudes take a look at these minis!? Spill your thoughts. Do you want to see more?

#miniatures #thedamned #minis #cultists #chaoscultists #miniwargaming #wargamesatlantic #cultofpaint


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 21:16:23


Post by: lord_blackfang


Personally I would have gone for something more coherent for the initial announcement, but that's just me.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 21:19:52


Post by: beast_gts


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Personally I would have gone for something more coherent for the initial announcement, but that's just me.
Yeah - and I would have included a link to the Game Found page, even if it's not active yet.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 21:25:52


Post by: privateer4hire


That’s the announcement? Or just a lead in to one with more info later today?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 21:30:01


Post by: ScarletRose


Yeah, I was hoping for a little more than "we're announcing that we're going to announce that we'll have an announcement".

Like there's enthusiasm for the product just let us know when the crowdfunding will actually be.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 21:30:53


Post by: beast_gts


 privateer4hire wrote:
That’s the announcement? Or just a lead in to one with more info later today?
That's all there is so far:

Spoiler:


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 21:34:11


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Personally I would have gone for something more coherent for the initial announcement, but that's just me.


I thought that was a “reaction video” transcript or something.

Also, delicious life energy? I’m just pledging money, dude.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 21:41:27


Post by: Not Online!!!


 ScarletRose wrote:
Yeah, I was hoping for a little more than "we're announcing that we're going to announce that we'll have an announcement".

Like there's enthusiasm for the product just let us know when the crowdfunding will actually be.


This.

Please don't gw hype machine, you have not the inertia for that to work.

Show us what we get/maybee get if funded or don't show anything.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 21:55:06


Post by: Gallahad


Hype train just derailed. Zoning back out.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 22:03:46


Post by: Psychopomp


Good grief. Don't go to the trouble of making an announcement date graphic if it's not even going to warrant a news entry on your homepage.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 22:07:46


Post by: Tsagualsa


Not Online!!! wrote:
 ScarletRose wrote:
Yeah, I was hoping for a little more than "we're announcing that we're going to announce that we'll have an announcement".

Like there's enthusiasm for the product just let us know when the crowdfunding will actually be.


This.

Please don't gw hype machine, you have not the inertia for that to work.

Show us what we get/maybee get if funded or don't show anything.


The last thing any kickstarter or other funding campaign needs is 'in-character' incoherent ramblings - there's a time and place for that, and a public-facing posting where you want to convey as much information as possible in as unambiguous a way you can manage is neither. It looks unprofessional right out the door, and makes many people's eyes glaze over and lose all interest immediately. Just... don't. You can do such stuff at your leisure later on, on your website but in your forum, but your prime contact surface with an interested public should be held to higher standards. It's grating when large companies or established authors do it, and can outright kill small enterprises. Getting mumbo-jumbo and gibbering instead of straight info is a huge turn-off.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 22:26:45


Post by: privateer4hire


Meanwhile at their HQ someone is doubtless about to release a concise, meat and potatoes statement:

Who’s involved and their roles (mwg and wga)
When the thing is kicking off exactly, date/time
Where the site link is for the Game Found campaign and a rough idea where the product can be shipped
What products are being produced (even saying cavalry, hq, ogres, etc) gives us an idea

Basic stuff

Then be ready to answer why not KS
Post photos even if it’s renders
Rough timelines for product to release
What bonus rewards might be achieved
And so on


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 23:02:47


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Aww disappointed

trailers for trailers suck


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/08 23:22:41


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


They’re giving us an extra pay period’s notice, though. So there’s that.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/09 00:24:30


Post by: beast_gts


Army of The Damned

Coming to Game Found May 26th we are excited to announce our first crowdfunding campaign in partnership with the fine folks at MiniWargaming!

This campaign will be focused on releasing 8 full hard plastic sets for the newest Death Fields' faction: The Damned! (their backstory can be found at the bottom of the page).

These 8 sets will let you build a full army of The Damned and includes plastic sets for:

Infantry
Command
Brutes
Outriders
Heavy Support Teams
Hounds
Artillery
Tank (yes our first hard plastic vehicle!)

MiniWargaming will be previewing all the sets and setting the stage over the next few weeks as we prepare to launch. We'll have more painted models, videos, and lots to see and talk about as the campaign progresses!

If successful, this campaign will allow us to do something we've never done before: release an entire ARMY in one shot! And once we've fulfilled all the backer pledges all 8 sets will be available as part of our regular catalog and at retailers worldwide.

Retailers: we will have full retail level pledges in the campaign as well.


Spoiler:





Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/09 01:02:23


Post by: ScarletRose


Now that's what we want to hear!

Tanks will be interesting, I'm wondering if this will be more of a light scout tank or a mainline battle tank?

And I'm very curious about hounds -are they a literal dog and handler unit or is this some name for scouts or light infantry?


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/09 02:06:41


Post by: privateer4hire


beast_gts wrote:
Army of The Damned

Coming to Game Found May 26th we are excited to announce our first crowdfunding campaign in partnership with the fine folks at MiniWargaming!

This campaign will be focused on releasing 8 full hard plastic sets for the newest Death Fields' faction: The Damned! (their backstory can be found at the bottom of the page).

These 8 sets will let you build a full army of The Damned and includes plastic sets for:

Infantry
Command
Brutes
Outriders
Heavy Support Teams
Hounds
Artillery
Tank (yes our first hard plastic vehicle!)

MiniWargaming will be previewing all the sets and setting the stage over the next few weeks as we prepare to launch. We'll have more painted models, videos, and lots to see and talk about as the campaign progresses!

If successful, this campaign will allow us to do something we've never done before: release an entire ARMY in one shot! And once we've fulfilled all the backer pledges all 8 sets will be available as part of our regular catalog and at retailers worldwide.

Retailers: we will have full retail level pledges in the campaign as well.


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Outstanding! Excellent announcement with lots of information. Really looking forward to getting models from these kits.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/09 02:08:43


Post by: mithril2098


i would guess a lighter tank to be honest. while they've experimented with multi-sprue layouts before (cannon fodder I for example), they tend to stick to "one sprue builts complete figures"

so i'd guess a small tank or tankette, something that can be fit one to a sprue. but i'd guess that it'll have some weapons options (basically weapon barrel options, possibly some add-on bits.)

one of the more popular suggestions by fans on their forums is something in the vein of the Renault FT-17/M1917/Fiat 3000/T-18.. a small two man tankette with a turret, basically. which would fit the WW1ish theme of the wider army so i'd be surprised if they pick something else.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/09 02:13:01


Post by: Racerguy180


Rapier analog???


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/09 04:27:30


Post by: mithril2098


Racerguy180 wrote:
Rapier analog???

probably more like a Sentinel alternative or maybe a Salamander Scout vehicle alternative, if it is big enough.


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/09 05:03:39


Post by: Racerguy180


A 40k ferret would be kinda cool


Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/09 06:07:12


Post by: lord_blackfang


I expect this to be a big hit in the HH crowd, I just hope the crowd is big enough

Not super fussed about the tank since Archon already makes a fine HIPS not-Chimera/Russ



Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023 @ 2023/05/09 06:54:43


Post by: Ragsta


The images look very promising. Spikes easily scraped off if necessary I still can’t work out what their partner actually does.