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I'm not sure whether to equip my Lord with a Warscythe and Gaze of Flame or just a Staff of Light and a Lightning Field.

I'm struggling to understand whether the strengh 3 attacks are initiated by all wounds (eg those that I save with a 3+) or only those which I fail my armour saves on. Any input?

Cheers in advance, Gary

Since the rule doesn't say anything like "unsaved wounds," it simply refers to all wounds inflicted, counted up before making/failing any saves.

Good luck!

aha! ;p hmm, seems worth it actually. My force is a more defensive one (1500pts, Lord, 3 times 10 warriors, 5 Flayed ones and 3 liths) so the warscythe isn't really needed

It's only UNsaved wounds as per the FAQ on the GW Website.

Aduro wrote:It's only UNsaved wounds as per the FAQ on the GW Website.

Oops! That is correct.

thats not a justified 25pts.. lol, gaze of flame and warscythe it is

Don't forget the res orb!

yeh always take the Res orb, with not too many Necrons in the force you'll need it to keep you alive.

As for the 'only unsaved wounds' rule, thats BS! It isn't worth it if thats the case, it should be for every wound, saved or not, or effectivly you want to get your lord injured, which isn't a wise idea in case it fails we'll be back

yeah, adjusted to:
1 Lord (Rovod)
11 Warriors
11 Warriors
11 Warriors
3 Monoliths

which comes to 1499 does GW know how nerfed Lightning Field is?

They possibly do yes, and hopefully it should be sorted out when the new codex comes out at some point in the near future (hopefully)

Chances are back in the day, second or third ed, it worked well, but as time went on it just didn't do so well

yeah, fingers crossed on the new codex

reckon there'd be any new units in it?

If we're lucky, but I struggle to think what they'd be, bar another C'tan maybe, instead it'll probably cleaning up existing units, ie Pariahs and no doubt weakening the Monolith, if the 5th ed damage chart is anything to go by.

Also if I remember some fluff I read somewhere there is such a thing as Gauss grenades... heres to hoping!

they can't nerf the monolith im dependent on them! lol

gauss grenades sound fun (imagines flayed ones struggling to pull the pin with their claws)

Give a Lord a Lightning Field and have him join a unit of Scarabs.

A Lightening Field seems like it would work wonders with either a unit of Pariahs to stiffen them up vs hordes, while working even better with Necrons in range of a Resurrection Orb or Tomb Spyder.

It can work wonders, but personally I find it to work better with a unit of Flayed ones, seeing as they can 'we'll be back' and save themselves after the inflicted wound, whereas Pariahs can't.

As for attaching a lord to a unit of Scarabs, I assume he'd have a destroyer body, so they could keep moving quickly, not just 6 inches a turn? Otherwise it seems a waste.

I had a match against a mate's orks two hours ago

Absolutley pwned him, despite forgetting to use my VoD to take the enemy table quator held only by a unit of gretchin..... *sigh* wasted 60 points that match lol

I've never had much patience with VoD myself, it is often forgoten way to much, so never bother taking it, except in Apocalypse, where my 'gaming group' just let me give the Lord all the equiptment in the codex!

Did the ork player have much anti tank? If not I bet he hated the Monoliths, actually even if he did he still must of hated them

he focused on one all game with a battery of 3 big cannons.. nothing

he chased the same monolith (the one i deepstriked) with a warboss and nobs equiped with with powerclaws all game... gaining 1 weapon destroyed result..

It was hilarious! he held 1 quator and killed two warriors

he he! Got to love monoliths. In one game of Apocalypse once my Monoliths (2 of them) survived 58 anti tank thigns before dying, I can find the list if you want to know what they were.

he really should have concentrated on Phase out, not Monoliths, after all you have a low Phase out thresh hold of 26, shouldn't be to hard to cause it...

yeah, his army is quite a fast one

but i was lucky on the turn i deep striked my monolith, as i destroyed a wartrukk and a buggy with gauss flux arc ^,^

Don't always rely on the Flux arc though, iv'e had it when I've only ever rolled ones for the number of shoys fired...

So do you only deep strike one Monolith then, if so do the other two screen your army? Albeit as skimmers screen

yeah, two guard the phalanx whilst the third wrecks havoc.

often i prefer using non-ordance weapons, too many times have my Leman Russes Imobilised/Weapon Destroyed themselves.. ;p

yeh, smae problem with Particle whip, doesn't half make opponent laugh though...

i've even had a lemon russ blow itself up, explode and kill my already wounded senior officer.. its embarresing and ironic at the same time lol

Typical Imperial tech!

i love the new rule for ork wartrucks where if penetrated they can go riding off in a random direction

i'm still waiting for a truck to plough into an ork mob before exploding

I wouldn't use a Lightning Field with Pariahs, as there just won't be enough of em to make it worthwhile. Lightning Field is all about attrition, make em pay in blood to kill your guys, so you'll want something fairly numerous that can kick out alot of shocks as they go down.

Oh, and as far as killing a monolith. Would you believe Necron Warriors are rather effective at taking one down? Stupid Changeling....

Well, they are currently, but when 5th ed comes in glancings won't be able to destroy vehicles, so gauss will actually be a bit nerfed in my opinion

Storm Lord ,
There actually used to be guass grenades back when Necrons used to be a Chapter Approved list. However when they got their codex this changed to disruption fields. They are exactly the same, except disruption fields still allow you to gain a charge bonus, so you get twice the killing power.