Wargames Factory Greatcoat Sci-Fi infantry update January 6, 2010

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**Brother SRM**

From Wargames Factory:

Now that we're past all the holidays and starting off 2010 - we thought it high time to show some of the progress that's been made on the Greatcoats.

We've gone back and forth on the main weapon design - but should be wrapping that up soon and we'll show you what we've come up with.

Here are two renders of some part configurations that show off the flexibility of the sprue .

The basic sprue will have 3 body types - standing and two advancing. These will be accompanied by a LOAD of arm and head options. We wanted to provide enough parts that you can take several of these sprues and create not only a primary force but their opposition as well.

Because of this, we're going to have a lot of head choices so that you can either outfit the sprue as 3 of the same helmeted figure type - or go crazy with some other "interesting" options.

You can get a taste of this with the below:

I'd say these are starting to shape up quite a bit. They're not gorgeous, but they're cheap and plastic.

**Da Boss**

As long as the original helmetted heads are still in there, I'm happy. Looking nice.

**BrookM**

The torso looks good, the second model looks okay, the heads blow though.

**MeanGreenStompa**

The heads aren't so important, the bodies are.

West wind and Pig Iron will provide the heads if needed.

**Malika2**

The bearded head and that giant cannon look good, not so sure about the bodies though...

**Da Boss**

Really? I'm not a fan of either.

**chaos0xomega**

The detail on the bearded head is is great... its too bad its out of scale with the body, and everything else looks horrid.

Actually, the torsos/bodies arent that bad, its just the heads, weapons, arms, and shoulders which need to go, so I guess I could kitbash them into someting good, but for it to be worth it, these need to cost the same as their praetorians... err... I mean colonial british.

**Agamemnon2**

I like the leader figure, hate the integral bases which will cause issues with trying to base them on gaming-style bases and make it almost impossible to use them for dioramas and the like.

If they're cheap enough, I could theoretically buy a few.

**lord_blackfang**

The bodies look decent, but they'll probably need Cadian arms and Pig Iron heads.

Also, time for interested parties to go to WF forums and suggest a separate base.

**Agamemnon2**

lord_blackfang wrote:The bodies look decent, but they'll probably need Cadian arms and Pig Iron heads.

Those would only work if the scaling is exactly right, which I find unlikely, given WGF's previous adherence to actual 28mm scale.

**Brother SRM**

Agamemnon2 wrote:I like the leader figure, hate the integral bases which will cause issues with trying to base them on gaming-style bases and make it almost impossible to use them for dioramas and the like.

If they're cheap enough, I could theoretically buy a few.

If you're doing any sort of basing work on the actual base, you can usually cover up the integral base without much effort. That's my experience anyway.

**chaos0xomega**

Well, looking at the hands feet and head, they are larger in proportion to the body than any REAL human, so they might very well be heroic 28mm...

But looking at the leader figure more... what were they thinking? He looks like the bastard child of darth vader and bozo the clown, the grills on the mask make it look like a big clown mouth, and it even looks like he has a clown nose.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Scale's come up before they noted these would be 10% bigger than true 28s.

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Link to their thread

http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2010/01/06/greatcoat-updates/

**whitedragon**

Wow....we waited all this time....for....that?

The masses sure spoke all right. This is why some things should not be done via committee.

**niceguyteddy**

Am I the only one who thinks the shoulder pads ruin the model? I had high hopes of using these for my SL vets. Oh well.

**Le Grognard**

Ugh. I know the 'greatcoat and gas mask' crowd are all moist over this pending release, but not looking so great in the rendering phase.

**ph34r**

Le Grognard wrote:Ugh. I know the 'greatcoat and gas mask' crowd are all moist over this pending release, but not looking so great in the rendering phase.

As one of the 'greatcoat and gas mask' crowd, I am not happy with the renders. None of my ideas got taken seriously in the initial stages and we end up with silly pointy double shoulderpads, soft looking breast plates, and overall not an effect that I am a fan of.

**chaos0xomega**

Yeah, shoulderpads kill it for me too (see my previous post).

Really, looking at it... it looks like the artist took the arms from another model and stuck it on there. Aesthetically, it doesnt match the rest of the miniature at all. Looks way to much like a SM shoulder really.

Ah well, I wasn't really expecting too much, as the initial renders looked like crap too, at least the revised renders look better...

...I just hope the standard weapon isn't some FG-42 derivative, that was MY idea for my own great-coat guard line that I planned on doing, and they stole it

I do like how most of the people on the WF forums or whatever seem to love it though, it seems they are so enamored with seeing their own ideas used they can't see the overall suck of the design.

**Steelmage99**

Im kinda out of the loop here.
Which head(s) did they decide to go with?

Also second the "soft armour" statement. Should have been more standard "sounds-like-Padian-armour" with straight lines, or no armor at all (just greatcoat).

**Agamemnon2**

whitedragon wrote:Wow....we waited all this time....for....that?

The masses sure spoke all right. This is why some things should not be done via committee.

It wasn't a committee. It was a handful of meddlers screaming so loud nobody else could get a word in edgewise.

Also, I'm not sure if it was "the people's" fault for messing these up. Surely some blame should go to the inept sculptors at WGF?

**Waaagh_Gonads**

1: If you want greatcoat use Krieg as the basis... they used french WW1 with breastplates and they look excellent.
2: Get rid of the giant pirate gloves on the first model. Look ridiculous.
3: Shoulder pads look ridiculous. Again, check out the krieg models, they have them, but are appropriate for the type of trooper.

I think you would be better served sculpting decent minotaur models after seeing the lame GW ones.

**kendoka**

I actually think the renders have become much better than the initial concepts. Not that bad.

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Anybody noticed the funny way the strap is attached to the Gatling?
When the barrels starts to revolve the strap will probably strangle the gunner

**H.B.M.C.**

The heads are awful, and the second one isn't even in scale with the model. The shoulder pads on the top one are also very bad, and look tacked on.

The torsos themselves are decent.

**NAVARRO**

kendoka wrote:
Anybody noticed the funny way the strap is attached to the Gatling?
When the barrels starts to revolve the strap will probably strangle the gunner

strangling gatling

The eyes look mutant freaky... No nothing for me here.

**Bodichi**

I need to see sprue pics but I am still very interested. The legs and body (which is what I most wanted) look good enough.

**His Master's Voice**

Come one, if you really want stuff like that just buy this

http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/tg2420-1.html

The trenchers actually look half decent even today, unlike this bunch of creeps.

**Bodichi**

@ Prince August Warzone Minatures

There does not appear to be prices or a way to purchase these figures. Also are they multi part or single?

**His Master's Voice**

Sorry.

Go here

http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/index_warzone.html

scroll to "WARZONE - Mutant Chronicles - battle board Games" section and look for "Warzone 80 plastic battle soldiers in bag". 20 Euro.

Models have separate arms. I don't remember if heads are separate too, but I guess they are.

**Kingsley**

Looking good, though I hope the helmeted heads are a little smaller than those ones.

**BrookM**

Interesting, pity they don't have more painted samples up.