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**Scottywan82**

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1430057&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k

EDIT: Some Spearhead rules info brought to our attention on page 7 of this thread by Redemption:

Redemption wrote:A quick preview of the rules, by Bramgaunt:

BramGaunt wrote:Spearhead, and how you play it!

Basically at least, I'm not giving any detail (because I can't, I was just given a short overview)

1st: Pick your Army.

You all know the basic FoC? Can draw it while sleeping? Good. Spearhead uses the same FoC - with two major changes. The first: No minimums. You don't have to field a HQ. You don't need Core Units. The Second: There are apocalypse-datasheet-like Units. You may field as many of those as you want, though you may not duplicate any of them.
So, your army will consist of: 0 - 2 HQ, 0 - 3 Elites, 0-6 Core, 0-3 Fast attack, 0-3 Heavy support, and 0+ "Big Spearhead Units". Appearantly, if you are having a 2000 points battle, you would have to field something. Just pick your choice.

So: You don't need to field anything with a AV at all. It's just that anything with a AV will get some huge boosts.

2nd: Deployment.

Both armys are deployed at the narrow board edges. Ah, Meltaguns for infantry only work like, 12 inches? To bad. It's your fault showing up with infantry for a tank battle. Forward, for the emperor, CHARGE!! (Though, not to far forward, remember, they got meltaguns...)

3rd: Scoring units: In addition to core units, any vehicle or walker and all Spearhead-battlehosts score. Even if immobilized, stunned or shaken and/or stripped of all weapons.

And that's it. Enjoy =)

So, you don't need to have huge units of tanks (or any tanks at all for that matter), but they do get bonusses.

Edit: Some more from Frgt/10:

Frgt/10 wrote:in addition to this;
- spearhead units are either groups of 3 tanks (no more no less) OR groups of 1 superheavy
- the spearhead formations gain different USRs depending on their role; ie: tankhunters for pred annihilators, scout for some fast vehicles, etc
- works similar to apoc formations, with a small points cost for the spearhead formation
- pretty sure superheavies don't get USRs

**Sgt Deadmeat**

I love the Manticore but Pask is awful. Might stick to a plastic stand in

**notprop**

I am a little underwhelmed by the Manticore design, preferring the FW design as I do. I quite like the hull design, provides a few conversion possibilities.

The squadron command sprue looks to be a waste of plastic for imperial armies [more voxes!?!], is it even new?

Pask seems to have been given a Chelsea Smile.

**Scottywan82**

notprop wrote:I am a little underwhelmed by the Manticore design, preferring the FW design as I do. I quite like the hull design, provides a few conversion possibilities.

The squadron command sprue looks to be a waste of plastic for imperial armies [more voxes!?!], is it even new?

No, it's a rerelease from Apoc.

**aka_mythos**

Sigh... Pask? Really? I'll just keep using some of my old metal tank drivers as Pask.

**yakface**

I LOVE the Manticore...

Can't say I'm a big fan of the Eldar Support Weapon crew 'riding' the weapon though. It certainly does help to differentiate them from the standard Eldar Heavy Weapon platforms, which I guess is good.

**JOHIRA**

Fire Prism looks much better than I expected, the support weapon looks terribly uninspired. It really looks to me like no effort was made on it at all. Almost no one ever bought those things anyway, so why bother to redo them unless you're going to make the models (or the rules) awesome?

Lemme guess, in 5th edition Wraithlords will get the option of taking a support weapon but the model kit won't be changed, so you'll have to buy the support weapon kit to make the conversion.

**Scottywan82**

yakface wrote:
I LOVE the Manticore...

Can't say I'm a big fan of the Eldar Support Weapon crew 'riding' the weapon though. It certainly does help to differentiate them from the standard Eldar Heavy Weapon platforms, which I guess is good.

I concur with all of this. I'm definitely buying a manticore, just to build. Maybe two even. The deathstrike is unique looking. More likely I'll just get a battery of Manticores.

The support weapons are a disappointing choice to make plastic, but more plastic is a good thing, so... it's neutral I guess? Wish they'd done wraithguard in plastic. I'd be building an Iyanden army instead of painting a single squad. I may pick up a Fire Prism though and shorten the barrel.

**Ixquic**

Welp gonna need three of those deathstrikes.

**Osbad**

That new Fire Prism is utter kack!! Holy moley! The one interesting and unique Eldar tank and they turn it into a glorified street lamp!

Colour me unimpressed.

And IG tanks are still naff.

Nope. Not for me!

**yakface**

Man, go to the GW page and look at the Fire Prism kit. Check out the old frames for the Falcon body and compare them to the new one that has the Fire Prism and Deathspinner turrets.

GW has gotten waaaay better in all these years at cramming junk onto their frames. Those old Falcon frames just look eerily barren now in comparison.

**LunaHound**

Not impressed of LRBT , the turret looks cheap and toy like.
I lol when i saw the Eldar Support Platform , well i guess its ok since i kept my metal one .

But... I love the Manticore / Death Strike. This will certainly persuade people to buy atleast 3 for their IG army.

**Hellfury**

I cant wait to not buy any of this.

**Scottywan82**

yakface wrote:
Man, go to the GW page and look at the Fire Prism kit. Check out the old frames for the Falcon body and compare them to the new one that has the Fire Prism and Deathspinner turrets.

GW has gotten waaaay better in all these years at cramming junk onto their frames. Those old Falcon frames just look eerily barren now in comparison.

But they still can't fit every option in an entry on the sprue. There's always something missing so you have to buy another box.

Come on GW, can we just get the last four IG tanks now? Please? Hydra, Colossus, Medusa, and Griffin?

Hell, I'll settle for the Colossus and the Griffin.

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Hellfury wrote:I cant wait to not buy any of this.

Oh my word, let me die of shock.

**Therion**

The Fire Prism looks incredibly good in the official pictures. I love it. The rest of the stuff I find lacking in a variety of ways.

Come on GW, can we just get the last four IG tanks now? Please? Hydra, Colossus, Medusa, and Griffin?

To me the Hydra would be the most important one, since I would need 6 or even 9 of them and I'm not happy about ordering that many resin kits from Forgeworld.

**Scottywan82**

Therion wrote:The Fire Prism looks incredibly good in the official pictures. I love it. The rest of the stuff I find lacking in a variety of ways.

Come on GW, can we just get the last four IG tanks now? Please? Hydra, Colossus, Medusa, and Griffin?

To me the Hydra would be the most important one, since I would need 6 or even 9 of them and I'm not happy about ordering that many resin kits from Forgeworld.

Yeah, lol, I have the same motivation for the Colossus and the Griffin. I want 2 or 3 batteries of 2 Colossus and 1 Griffin each.

**Hellfury**

Scottywan82 wrote:
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Hellfury wrote:I cant wait to not buy any of this.

Oh my word, let me die of shock.

Unwarranted snarkiness? From Scottywan? Even more shocking!

**Necros**

The tank commander in that first pic looks like a midget.

I don't mind pask but I wouldn't pay $9.90 for a torso. I'll keep doing what I do where any guy sticking out of a hatch can count as pask.

Really loving the manticore and deathstrike. Gonna have to see if they can be magnetized, but I'm guessing no because they want you to buy extra tanks you don't need.

**generalgrog**

I get red x's here, can someone post the pics on dakka, so us firewall challenged folks can see the pretty pictures?

GG

**Gargskull**

Ah, so that's how they did it. You need the manticore's rockets to build the deathstrike.

Very cool looking but less useful as a scratch building parts kit since you get either 4 manticore rockets or 1 deathstrike and not both.

I'll probably still get one though.

**Scottywan82**

Hellfury wrote:
Scottywan82 wrote:
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Hellfury wrote:I cant wait to not buy any of this.

Oh my word, let me die of shock.

Unwarranted snarkiness? From Scottywan? Even more shocking!

Unwarranted? Is it really?

**Miguelsan**

Don´t like the new LRBT.
DO like the Manticore/Deathstrike.
Meh on the Support Plataform.

That´s all folks? I was waiting a little bit of stuff for the other races.

M.

**warpcrafter**

I will probably buy one of the rocket tanks just so that I can use the rockets to give some of my Deffkoptas bigbomms. I know they'll probably look comically over-sized, but what the hell.

**Maxstreel**

Finally a tank turret that looks good. The manticore looks great but the deathstrike... meh...

Looks like I'm going to have to save up for some of these.

**alarmingrick**

Love the Exterminator and the Manticore!
glad i only scratch built the 1 Manticore.

**squilverine**

I'm not terribly impressed with any of these, although it is good to see GW plugging holes in their ranges.

Whilst there is nothing overwhelming about the re-cut russ, I can't say there was much wrong with the origional so adding the different weapon load outs to the "new" kit is a bonus.

Pask looks awful, but this may be the dodgy paintjob, for me the highlighting is a bit overdone.

Something just isn't selling the Manticore/Deathstrike to me, I'm not sure if the Deathstrike missile is big enough and the smaller rockets/fuel tanks on the sides just look like they were added on as an after thought. I also prefer the FW Manticore, but the new one may grow on me.

The Eldar stuff is ok, it is certainly good to see the filthy pointy eared xeno's get some loving

but when are the orks going to get updated Wartraks, buggies and Skorchas? When are CSM going to get a plastic dreadnought, and surely the IG need updated rough riders! These are all desperately needed, not yet another flavour of Leman Russ with a slightly different shaped barrel.

**Lorek**

Forget the Manticore (which is totally sweet, really), I love the Deathstrike! Even that "Sup dawg" guy would love it, what with the rocket having rockets and all that.

**MeanGreenStompa**

I really like the manticore.

I prefer the old aesthetic of the previous fireprism.

**Corey85**

If I had 50 bucks just lying around I would pick up that Manticore just for the terrain building options. All those rockets would great on top of a tower, and a blown up tank always look sweet on the board.

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I would also like to add that the fire prism looks very frail and deadly, just an eldar vehicle should.

**reds8n**

generalgrog wrote:I get red x's here, can someone post the pics on dakka, so us firewall challenged folks can see the pretty pictures?

GG

et voila for the work blocked !