mikhaila wrote:November of what year?

Wolf wrote:I'd love to see some new releases that aren't space marines.

Yakface wrote:The actual stats are as follows:

All poisons are 4+
Splinter Rifle 24" SX, AP5, Rapid Fire, Poisoned.
Splinter Carbine 18" SX, AP5, Assault 3, Poisoned.
Splinter Cannon 36" SX, AP5, Assault 4, or Heavy 6 Poisoned.

reds8n wrote:I did hear something odd t'other week about them having "special" poisoned weapons -- at least fluff wise -- which had a normal S score but then got a reroll to wound. Poisoned lite I guess ? *shrugs* Not terribly convinced by that, not least as Mr. Kelly -- bless him -- tends to stick more to existing USRs and the like.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:After seeing (some) of the warriors that were assembled from the new DE warrior sprue (I did not see the bits on the sprue) last weekend and having been given the all clear to talk about them by my source:

Best start point is to use this pic as a reference.



The warriors are not striding forward and hunched over like they are about to tip over- legs are laid out in a wide stance and the models are much, much better proportioned than the old ones, so no more legs that go all the way up and tiny torsos.
Helmets and non helmeted heads included.
Non helmeted head has a high ponytail.
Ribs/shards of bone poke through loincloths and the ponytail.
The helmets are pretty much identical to the above pic, but with lumps/gems over the ears/temples.
From behind the helmets look exactly like eldar guardian ones.
There is a gem/soulstone on the left chest armour- not the shoulder armour piece as per the above pic.
This is where you have to use your imagination as the pic doesn't show it: On the back there is a backpack that looks like it started as an eldar backpack but does not stick out as far, has vestigal 'vanes' compared to the eldar one (so doesn't stick up above the shoulder) and most excellently down the centre of the backpack, it is recessed with scaled armour over the spine (triangular scales with points downwards)
A high collar that flanges out
Rifle is almost exactly the same as the pic for the base model, even down to the jagged bit that pokes up in front of the warriors abdomen in the pic. There is a variant with what looks to be crossbow arms sticking out laterally (ends up looking like a mini anchor)
Attachable Loincloths (variable designs) One has a skull, one a hook on them.
As per the pic, greaves over the lower legs, then knee pads and scales over the upper legs, with points upwards.
Knife scabbard, 2 'rods' and 2 small sachels on the 'utility belt' posteriorly
Blades of differing lengths and size on various armour parts, primarily lower legs and shoulder pads.
Curved knife HW available.
Attachable blades for the end of splinter rifle.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:That's a shame, fans resoundingly rejected the DE years ago, I would hope GW would know better than to throw good money after bad.

Kirasu wrote:To be fair to kyoto.. the codex was a total mess and waste of space as well.. It speaks volumes that they had to release a SECOND edition of the book that "added" in options instead of the whole book being basically barren and devoid of ideas

Even when it was released the updated codex had very few useful units and the army was already pigeon holed to raider spam

Bad models + no creativity + poor codex = DOA (not to mention total lack of fluff for a new army as well)

I hope GW atleast puts more effort into the next DE book as I put into my narrative apoc games

Archonate wrote:I used to get so excited about every tiny hint about DE. I would hungrily scour the internet and enthusiastically read about and contribute ideas about how DE might be changed or improved.

After so many years of legitimate pleas bouncing off GW's unimaginative, SM-encrusted minds, now when I hear DE news, I can't help but heave a deep sigh of apathy. It's not that I don't believe these rumors. I'm sure we'll see DE before the year is out and they'll be amazing. But the enthusiasm is gone. As a formality, I'll probably buy the codex out of curiosity. If GW is lucky, the new codex will inspire me to purchase their inevitably over-priced product.

One more thing to add, now that I've had a chance to comb through all the specialty item codes... one of them has a Dark Eldar prefix.

Specialty items are wide and varied and range from things like limited edition dice sets, basing kits, resin markers, templates and things like the L.O.S Marker Light, but they all carry non-army-specific prefixes. The only army-specific specialty item product code that springs to mind in recent memory (though I'm sure there's been others) is the resin Ork Barricades set.

Alpharius wrote:You might be disappointed there, BoN.

Still, GW is rather schizophrenic when it comes to the 'naughty models', so I suppose there's... hope?