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**Kroothawk**

Here it is:

Hi There,

In this Newsflash we are pleased to announce that the hotly anticipated update for the Death Korps of Krieg is available to download now! We also have another sneak peek of our Top Secret Space Marine Project …

Thanks,
Ead Brown

Death Korps of Krieg Update Available Now

Imperial Armour author Warwick Kinrade has recently put the finishing touches to an updated version of the Death Korps army list printed in Imperial Armour Volume 5: The Siege of Vraks Part 1 as a free download that you can find here. The document addresses many of the most common questions that we have received from gamers across the world – thanks for all your feedback!

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/k/kreig.pdf

The Death Korps rules in all three parts of the Siege of Vraks Trilogy are fully updated, and we have added several options to army list entries including the Death Rider Command Squad, allowing our show only Commissar to be used. The document also includes the Leman Russ variants available in Codex: Imperial Guard. Note that the Armoured Company list published in Imperial Armour Volume 7 is largely unaffected, but any Infantry squad entries should be replaced by those found in the update.

Remember that you can always contact the Forge World Customer Service Team for any rules queries using the telephone numbers below or by e-mailing Forgeworld@games-workshop.co.uk

Exclusive Sneak Peek

Marine Sneak PeakLast week’s MkV ‘Heresy’ pattern power armour helmet has clearly piqued many peoples’ interest. We have been inundated with e-mails and telephone calls, all seeking more details about this Top Secret project – it’s still under lock and key, but our agents have managed to obtain another exclusive work-in-progress glimpse of some of the many forthcoming Space Marine releases that our talented Studio team are working on. Many boffins died to bring us this information, but despite their sacrifice all we can say for now is that it is well and truly set in the 41st Millenium…

Funny tidbit: Even FW misspells the name in their pdf-file name

**Kirasu**

Last week’s MkV ‘Heresy’ pattern power armour helmet has clearly piqued many peoples’ interest. We have been inundated with e-mails (None of which we would ever consider responding to) and telephone calls,

Just something about forgeworld and "email" cracks me up. I suppose they never claimed to respond to any such emails.

Great stuff tho! Glad to see death korps having a purpose again

**Alpharius**

Forge World will soon be making tons and tons of money!

A MKV and now a MVIII, to go along with the already released MKIV and, admittedly not all that special MKVI?

Wow!

MKII isn't really all that interesting or too different when compared to MKIII, so we probably won't see that mark.

MKI is a bit... odd, and if this is set in the 41st Millenium (and really, we already know it is, and 'when' it is!), MKI suits are definitely NOT still 'around'...

SO...

Hopefully FW will grace us with a 'true' MKVIII and then we're all set!

That is, IF they also do 'full' kits that include the legs too.

Well, until they finally give us Pre-Heresy Terminators too!

Watch the money flow in then!

**Xanthos**

Ohh yes! I´ve been waiting for this way too long, finally my Krieg boys can get back into the fray with a proper codex!

Of course, one that lacks quite a few of the more interesting bits of IG kit, but that´s okay. After all, an army with WS4 has a lot going for it.

**Kirasu**

Well the list seems cool to me. Being able to take power fists in combined infantry squads is evil, also their heavy weapon squads are only 95 points for 3 lascannons

Being stubborn in close combat is really good also, makes it so you dont have to always combine your squads

The list answered a very serious question for me... I keep thinking to myself "When will I be able to spend 18 pts a model for a stormtrooper? 16 points is way too cheap for a 4+ save, T3 model".. Now my wish has come true!!

**Xanthos**

Yeah, major ouch there, these guys are more expensive than marines, by 3 points!!

And no special weapons at all for the Engineers, so they´re not even close on a substitute for Veterans.

Still, some very cool stuff too, Pfists in combined squads, finally a chance to use that Commissar on horse, that kind of thing.

Oh,and also: Free armylist from FW, wow!!!

**Absolutionis**

The Hades Breaching Drill basically has the Mawloc rules explained in a clear and understandable manner that doesn't bring up any rules questions. Congratulations Forge World.

EDIT: On further reading, the Cyclops rules don't seem to make any sense with using the flamer template centered on the vehicle.

**Sarge**

May have to give this a try. I wish they had kept the mobile artillery pieces in the codex.

**Xanthos**

@Absolutionitis: Where did you see the flamer template mentioned? I may be skipping something, but as far as I can tell, it´s the template for the demo charge that is used, but with no halving of strength...

OT: I also really like the new SM armor variants they´re bringing us, can´t wait to see more!

**Alpharius**

Xanthos wrote:Ohh yes! I´ve been waiting for this way too long, finally my Krieg boys can get back into the fray with a proper codex!

Of course, one that lacks quite a few of the more interesting bits of IG kit, but that´s okay. After all, an army with WS4 has a lot going for it.

Not as much as one with 2 wounds though!

**Xanthos**

And there it is!

**tallshortguy**

Damn you FW, those MKV helmets are going to be a must buy.

**Alpharius**

What about these here MKIII ones?

Even more of a must buy!

**Malika2**

And there goes Maxmini and Chapterhouse's helmet market...

**BrookM**

If it's just heads, count me out. But if they plan on releasing armour kits with complete suits count me in.

**Alpharius**

Oh, I don't know about that!

These will, obviously, NOT be anything resembling 'cheap', and the aforementioned companies allow you to buy only the helmets...

They'll take a bit of a hit, but I think they'll still do a brisk business in the helmet market!

**Lord_Astaroth**

Hmm. I must admit I was extremely excited to check out this list, but I am a bit dissapointed. I never played Kreig, but I was hoping on using this list for my current Guard. So what I've noticed was no Stormtroopers, no Valkyries/Vendettas, no Chimeras, no Veteran squads. I'm not sure if they had that before or not, but I know I won't be using them. I think the army looks great though!

**Chapterhouse**

Malika2 wrote:And there goes Maxmini and Chapterhouse's helmet market...

*is that sarcasm?*

Yeah, because, you know, we all like to spend $2.00 on a resin head, wait 6 weeks for it (as opposed to 2-3 weeks I have to deal with at the moment) just because it is Forge World.

But they are Forge World, so they are worth it, right?

Oh, we arent sitting on our thumbs waiting for FW to release their over priced heresy armors, they will have competition around the same time period as well.

Now if they were coming out with some other things, I might be worried.

**Little lord Fauntleroy**

From the looks of things, the men of Krieg are back. And they are not in a good mood.

Will...not...buy...more ...Forgeworld. Will...resist...

**Kanluwen**

You mean like the apparent entire armor kit that the pictures seem to imply, given that the chestplate is also resin?

Or the apparent intention to sell them as conversion kits of 10 Mk. IV/III/Vs, with the same Storm Bolters as the Raven Guard Sternguard kits for 15 GBP?

Yeah. Obviously you've got nothing to worry about...

**Malika2**

Chapterhouse wrote:
Malika2 wrote:And there goes Maxmini and Chapterhouse's helmet market...

*is that sarcasm?*

Yeah, because, you know, we all like to spend $2.00 on a resin head, wait 6 weeks for it (as opposed to 2-3 weeks I have to deal with at the moment) just because it is Forge World.

But they are Forge World, so they are worth it, right?

Oh, we arent sitting on our thumbs waiting for FW to release their over priced heresy armors, they will have competition around the same time period as well.

Now if they were coming out with some other things, I might be worried.

Many fans went to outside companies such as yourselves to get the bits, but now FW are slowly taking over the stuff the outsiders are producing. Yes you guys will be able to be cheaper, but FW does offer a product which looks superior and it's official. I guess that is what people will be paying for.

Sorry if I came across as a bit of a douchebag, didn't mean to do that, my bad :(

**Orinoco**

Malika2 wrote:And there goes Maxmini and Chapterhouse's helmet market...

and we all know how questionable FW casting can be sometimes.

**Alpharius**

Kanluwen wrote:You mean like the apparent entire armor kit that the pictures seem to imply, given that the chestplate is also resin?

Or the apparent intention to sell them as conversion kits of 10 Mk. IV/III/Vs, with the same Storm Bolters as the Raven Guard Sternguard kits for 15 GBP?

Yeah. Obviously you've got nothing to worry about...

I hope they will be releasing FULL kits, and NOT 'just' chest, helmet, backpacks and shoulder pads.

I want legs, arms and weapons too!

Do you know something we don't?

Or, more likely, have I missed something?

**Chapterhouse**

Kanluwen wrote:You mean like the apparent entire armor kit that the pictures seem to imply, given that the chestplate is also resin?

Or the apparent intention to sell them as conversion kits of 10 Mk. IV/III/Vs, with the same Storm Bolters as the Raven Guard Sternguard kits for 15 GBP?

Yeah. Obviously you've got nothing to worry about...

Kanluwen,

I know you like GW that much (and it seems filling their wallets), but $16 for 5 not 10 marines worth does not lend well to your thoughts that they will sell 10 kits for a measly 15 GBP (living in fantasy world?!).

so thats $24 US for 5 marines worth, not 10.

Malika2 wrote:
Chapterhouse wrote:
Malika2 wrote:And there goes Maxmini and Chapterhouse's helmet market...

*is that sarcasm?*

Yeah, because, you know, we all like to spend $2.00 on a resin head, wait 6 weeks for it (as opposed to 2-3 weeks I have to deal with at the moment) just because it is Forge World.

But they are Forge World, so they are worth it, right?

Oh, we arent sitting on our thumbs waiting for FW to release their over priced heresy armors, they will have competition around the same time period as well.

Now if they were coming out with some other things, I might be worried.

Many fans went to outside companies such as yourselves to get the bits, but now FW are slowly taking over the stuff the outsiders are producing. Yes you guys will be able to be cheaper, but FW does offer a product which looks superior and it's official. I guess that is what people will be paying for.

Sorry if I came across as a bit of a douchebag, didn't mean to do that, my bad :(

Yeah you did, but I had a feeling you just typed it out badly. I gave you an out with the *is that sarcasm* remark

Nick
Chapterhousestudios.com

**ph34r**

Chapterhouse wrote:Kanluwen,

I know you like GW that much (and it seems filling their wallets), but $16 for 5 not 10 marines worth does not lend well to your thoughts that they will sell 10 kits for a measly 15 GBP (living in fantasy world?!).

so thats $24 US for 5 marines worth, not 10.

$24 seems too much to pay for generic armor like Mk6 with boltguns or whatever.
But Mk8?
People will pay $24 for 5 resin/plastic grey knight style models. And as much as I am sure you are proud of your sculptors, they are still very much so outclassed by forgeworld.

Alpharius wrote:I hope they will be releasing FULL kits, and NOT 'just' chest, helmet, backpacks and shoulder pads.

I want legs, arms and weapons too!

Do you know something we don't?

Or, more likely, have I missed something?

Arms, weapons, and legs would probably double the price. I'd rather just keep the plastic bits so that I can get more of the important bits.

**Gamble**

Helmets and torsoes are visible in the pics so they'll very likely be in. At the moment, anything else is wishlisting, unless ofcourse, you hear it from a red shirt

.

Hopefully they'll include matching legs with the above components, but then we're looking at a different price point from their other conversion kits. I'll be happy as long as I can get kits with my choice of armor as opposed to 1 kit with 1 or 2 of each mark.

**Kanluwen**

Chapterhouse wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:You mean like the apparent entire armor kit that the pictures seem to imply, given that the chestplate is also resin?

Or the apparent intention to sell them as conversion kits of 10 Mk. IV/III/Vs, with the same Storm Bolters as the Raven Guard Sternguard kits for 15 GBP?

Yeah. Obviously you've got nothing to worry about...

Kanluwen,

I know you like GW that much (and it seems filling their wallets), but $16 for 5 not 10 marines worth does not lend well to your thoughts that they will sell 10 kits for a measly 15 GBP (living in fantasy world?!).

so thats $24 US for 5 marines worth, not 10.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Red_Scorpions/RED-SCORPIONS-VETERANS-WITH-VETERAN-SERGEANT-HAAS-UPGRADE-PACK.html

You were saying?

**brettz123**

Alpharius wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:You mean like the apparent entire armor kit that the pictures seem to imply, given that the chestplate is also resin?

Or the apparent intention to sell them as conversion kits of 10 Mk. IV/III/Vs, with the same Storm Bolters as the Raven Guard Sternguard kits for 15 GBP?

Yeah. Obviously you've got nothing to worry about...

I hope they will be releasing FULL kits, and NOT 'just' chest, helmet, backpacks and shoulder pads.

I want legs, arms and weapons too!

Do you know something we don't?

Or, more likely, have I missed something?

Well we don't know that they will be FULL kits but from the pics so far you can tell they are more than just heads. The first pick had an old mark of back pack as well as chest and this pick also has an old mark chest so it will be more than just helmets. Full kit would be nice though.

And actually it is a lot cheaper than $2.00 a head considering in the Red Scorpion kit you get 11 heads, 12 shoulder pads, 11 chest plates (all mk IV), and a power sword for 16 pounds I believe at current conversions rates that is $24.00 for 35 pieces which makes it about what .69 american cents a piece..... which is actually cheaper than you can get stuff other places. Now granted I always order enough stuff to get free shipping but there you have it.

Still a niche for Chapterhouse and maxmini but a good chunk of that is gone now. This stuff looks a lot better than any of the stuff either one of them makes currently and is reasonably priced (they way I buy it and use it makes it cheaper).

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Chapterhouse wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:You mean like the apparent entire armor kit that the pictures seem to imply, given that the chestplate is also resin?

Or the apparent intention to sell them as conversion kits of 10 Mk. IV/III/Vs, with the same Storm Bolters as the Raven Guard Sternguard kits for 15 GBP?

Yeah. Obviously you've got nothing to worry about...

Kanluwen,

I know you like GW that much (and it seems filling their wallets), but $16 for 5 not 10 marines worth does not lend well to your thoughts that they will sell 10 kits for a measly 15 GBP (living in fantasy world?!).

so thats $24 US for 5 marines worth, not 10.

Your wrong it is 11 marines for $24.00 not 5. In the red scorpion set you get enough bits to convert 11 marines.

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Gamble wrote:Helmets and torsoes are visible in the pics so they'll very likely be in. At the moment, anything else is wishlisting, unless ofcourse, you hear it from a red shirt .

Hopefully they'll include matching legs with the above components, but then we're looking at a different price point from their other conversion kits. I'll be happy as long as I can get kits with my choice of armor as opposed to 1 kit with 1 or 2 of each mark.

I have to agree here it will be disappointing if you can not choose full kits with the same types of armor. I tend to think you will get legs just because it really would be odd not too considering how different the leg styles are on the earlier marks of armor as compared to what is available in the plastic marine set. But if we do get legs the price point will certainly be significantly higher.

**poipo32**

I was hoping they would update the Renegades and Heretics army list too...

**TyraelVladinhurst**

Kanluwen wrote:
Chapterhouse wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:You mean like the apparent entire armor kit that the pictures seem to imply, given that the chestplate is also resin?

Or the apparent intention to sell them as conversion kits of 10 Mk. IV/III/Vs, with the same Storm Bolters as the Raven Guard Sternguard kits for 15 GBP?

Yeah. Obviously you've got nothing to worry about...

Kanluwen,

I know you like GW that much (and it seems filling their wallets), but $16 for 5 not 10 marines worth does not lend well to your thoughts that they will sell 10 kits for a measly 15 GBP (living in fantasy world?!).

so thats $24 US for 5 marines worth, not 10.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Red_Scorpions/RED-SCORPIONS-VETERANS-WITH-VETERAN-SERGEANT-HAAS-UPGRADE-PACK.html

You were saying?

$26 + $35 to get them to work unless you know a bits site