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At Showcase Comics, the top finishers were:

1) Daemons (Kairos, 2 units of flesh hounds (or war hounds?), 2 units of horrors, flamers, a large unit of bloodletters?)
2) Orcs & Goblins (2 big units of squigs, a big unit of black orcs, 4 units of wolf riders, lots of artillery)
3) Vampire Counts (2 big units of ghouls, lots of combat vampires)
4) WoC (large chosen block, warriors, throgg with trolls, another unit of trolls, warshrine)
5) Skaven (long block pushing screaming bell, 3 abominations, slaves)
6) WoC (large chosen block, 4 warshrines, warriors, marauders)

The Daemons were run by scooter, and he got 2 massacres and a draw and won by a landslide. The only game I saw most of was the first, where he had several close calls where Kairos almost got charged by Tomb Kings chariots, but ended up killing basically all the TK before taking out the last banner for their breakpoint (a smart move!).

The O&G used the vanguard move and WAAAGH! to get first turn charges against a dwarf gunline in the first round. I played against the same dwarf army in the last round and got a basically even draw, but the O&G had an easy time in this game! I'm not sure who he played in the second round but I believe he massacred, and in the third he went against skaven and got I believe a minor victory.

The VC also faced a dwarf gunline first round, and massacred in that game and in the second. I believe he faced the daemons of scooter in the final round (where scoot massacred) but had enough points from the previous two to still pull out third.

Both of the WoC were probably unlucky not to do better. The one who got 4th had a major victory in round one against a Kairos list (similar to the one that got 1st place) but would've had a massacre if he'd done combats in a different order and been able to kill Kairos before breaking the other army by killing a banner. The one who got 6th had a minor loss round 1 by a very smart play on the skaven player's part (who placed 5th), who was able to kill his BSB and a banner in a maruader unit to break him. I played against this WoC army in the second round and got massacred- there were no points to be had, and although I got a combo charge of 12 treekin and 2 treemen (one being my ancient) into his chosen, I lost combat slightly on the charge (although I held with everything) and got pasted in the next round of combat.

So I was impressed by the armies that placed at the top- it was definitely a close thing for the daemons in round 1, where another similar army took a major loss. The O&G and VC players were the only ones at the tourney with their respective armies. The skaven and WoC players came close, but weren't able to overcome the strength of the VC player's early massacres.

There were only 13 of us there! In the Virginia location, we heard there were 22 people. I'd love to hear how it went at other locations, too

1 Lizardmen
2 Skaven
3 Nurgle Demons

We only had 8 people. The 1st place army list was written by the guy running/ judging who honestly had no concept of 8th ed rules. The first scenario he changed so you ran 6 turns. Whoever won the break point thing first got 500 vp so we had 4 massacres in the first game. I wont post the location because i dont want to put people off from playing there. It was purely the guy running it that made it a bad experience. I had fun meeting people and seeing the armies though.

We had 2 skaven , dwarf, WoC, and 1 lizard and demon

shattersword wrote:1 Lizardmen
2 Skaven
3 Nurgle Demons

We only had 8 people. The 1st place army list was written by the guy running/ judging who honestly had no concept of 8th ed rules. The first scenario he changed so you ran 6 turns. Whoever won the break point thing first got 500 vp so we had 4 massacres in the first game. I wont post the location because i dont want to put people off from playing there. It was purely the guy running it that made it a bad experience. I had fun meeting people and seeing the armies though.

We had 2 skaven , dwarf, WoC, and 1 lizard and demon

First off if you're gonna attack someone, man up and say who you are. Nice to see you have 1 post on the forum. The judge in question was myself and i didnt *write* the winning list, i helped a friend make his list better. When you only have 8 people and 3 are from your store you're going to have a lot of people who know each other especially since the other store winners that came were regulars there too

i'm not sure who you are, but i have an idea since everyone else had a decent time

Lets go down your list
- Yes I modified the first mission and no one objected. All players agreed that it was more FUN to play a full game, if you didnt like it speak up.. auto-losses are stupid esp when GW posts a mission 1 day in advance.
- not knowing the rules? if you're who I think you are then Im sorry but I dont agree you can cast cracks call into combat.. Its a spell and doesnt say you can, nor is it a magical vortex. Virtually everyone playing was getting rules wrong, and I prompty looked them up and checked. Here is what I got wrong, ill man up and admit it
- i said you got reforms after you caught an enemy in close combat, I looked it up and i was wrong since its only when you pursue into a fleeing enemy. So i didnt allow the reform, easy
- i thought that fleeing units did give up Vps at end of game. apparently that was changed as they have to be OFF the board. I looked it up and the unit rallied anyway
Thats the only rules I remember that i got wrong and it was only wrong until i looked it up and admitted it

The other players had a good time. There are always people who cant enjoy an event for whatever reason. Im not going to post what the players got blatantly wrong that I only heard about a turn later, since Im not gonna bash random people

Sometimes people dont know 100% of every rule in the book since it came out in july. i checked, admitted the mistake and no harm was done.

oh and I also helped the demon and dwarf players with their lists the day before. What a scandal.

the lizard player got 1st last year too and 7th in the finals. Dont assume he didnt earn it or can play well (even tho salamanders are OPd)

I don't know what the results for Metagames in Springfield, MO are. I had the bye last round so I skiddalded a bit early. As for myself it was an ok experience. First game was against a great guy from Oklahoma (Matt I think) who had Slaanesh Daemons (Minor Loss for me). Second game was against a TFG who played Archaon WoC (Draw). Third round was a bye.

Scenario 1 killed me. I cast 5 spells and Miscast on every single attempt. Even with the Infernal Puppet I wiped out 80% of my own block of Warriors. Turn 2 I got charged by a Keeper of Secrets and just kept getting whittled down. I reached my Breaking point on Turn 3, but squeeked through with a Minor Loss.

Game 2 was just irritating. The guy I played wanted to argue nearly every rule (mainly how MR works and magic items). He even questioned me on whether or not a BSB could carry magic items (not magic items and a magic standard, but if a BSB could even carry any magic items). He also had a Bluetooth headset and was talking during our game. I couldn't tell half tghe time if he was talking to me or the person on his headset. Regarding the Scenario We both forgot the trinkets thing so it didn't matter. Ended up with a Draw because I couldn't kill Archaon, the rest of his knights, and the one warrior that was left out of a block of 20. I think there was a 200pt difference.

Slow playing was very evident in the second round (2 players from the same store). One player was able to get in his 4 turns, but his opponent only got 3 in. The other guy and his opponent were only able to get in 2 turns. I'm pretty sure that the store these guys came from had only started playing 8th Ed like a month ago.

Overall the play of 3 players ruined the fun for the rest of the players (not new).

20 people in Florida, and not one problem or argument.

1- demons - no magic
2- orcs- large troll unit
3- warriors of chaos with a hell cannon.

Nice to see O&G pulling out a second place at another location, too . Daemons with no magic?? I'd like to see what that build was!

TN

1. Empire (warmachines, lots of infantry, no stanks)
2. HE (Nasty nasty Teclis)
3. Lizard (Dual Slann madness!)


No problems. Great fun.

shattersword wrote: The first scenario he changed so you ran 6 turns. Whoever won the break point thing first got 500 vp so we had 4 massacres in the first game.

Welcome to Dakka. Maybe next post won't be a brave example of attacking someone from the anonomity of the internet

As to the change made in Scenario 1:

I talked to GW about the mission, and I suggested that very exact change to the mission. They chose to change it a different way. I went with the change they sugested, and all players at our location thought it was a very dumb way to do it. I should have had the balls to just change it as Mr. Kirasu did. I am happy that great minds think alike.)

We had one game that resulted in automatic loss at the start of turn 1. I was aware it was going to happen, and had that player paired up against the ringer, so it didn't affect any other players. Auto losses/wins are not something that should be in a tournament.

Myself and the two other qualifiers from my FLGS drove over to Petshop Comics in Louisville KY. We all had a great time and a shout out to the folks over there they ran a good, clean tournament.

1. WOC (Me)
2. Lizards
3. WOC

We had 12 competitors and my 3 games were against great opponents with no problems.

So, North Carolina had 11 players show up. First year hosting it at our local shop, but the owner did a great job and the manager did his best with rules queries. Overall, great time.

1) Daemons of Chaos
2) Ogre Kingdoms
3) Can't recall, but I think Daemons

I came in 5th, shy of 3rd by only 4pts! Of course, Semi-Finals made up my 5th, 6th, and 7th games ever played, too!

Not too for shabby for your second half of games.

As an aside, whats with the low turn out around the country? Seems the average was a dozen players if that, and to be honest there was not a lot of stores to choose from for how many stores had the prelims. Too much travel time?

Any dwarf armies make it through?

DevianID wrote:As an aside, whats with the low turn out around the country? Seems the average was a dozen players if that, and to be honest there was not a lot of stores to choose from for how many stores had the prelims. Too much travel time?

Probably had something to do with people having to drive half a day to get to the thing. I live in a metropolitan area, and the closest to me was 2 hours away.

The dwarves at our event were some of the lower finishers. I'm not sure about elsewhere, since it looks like an
Empire gunline took 1st at one above, but with the armies represented at ours I just don't think a pure (or mostly pure) gunline would have be viable.

The orc army certainly had lots of artillery, but it had lots of scary blocks, too!

Yeah our dwarf players were very low finishers too.. The problem is, gunlines dont kill everything and dorfs are too expensive to have huge blocks and they dont kill enough to win combat

Richmond, Va

We had 22 people playing.

1st High Elves
2nd Chaos Dwarfs
3rd Deamons

Were the chaos dwarves using regular dwarf rules? If so, I might have to take back what I just said about them!

perrin23860 wrote:Richmond, Va

We had 22 people playing.

1st High Elves
2nd Chaos Dwarfs
3rd Deamons

High Elves was Teclis in the folding tower. Pheonix guard and some spears IIRC. Rediculous, by the time you wipe out his troops, you had been trying to kill buffed troops while eating purple suns. Teclis and the tower is like 500pts of unkillable vps. Add Teclis to the pheonix guard in the tower for added ward saves. Was just sick.

Chaos Dwarfs was running ravening hordes! Plus common magic items. Didnt watch too many games.

Deamons was also Kiaros IIRC.

The "spoiler" or odd man was Dark Elves who the odd man out had to play to get battle points, auto massacre play game for modifyers, was 1500 pts over 1st place.

Stupidest part of the tournament was player getting upset the terrain didnt look exactly like the read ahead scenarios. I mean come on. If a 4x6 tiny building ruins you army how did you even get to hardboys. Just a bunch of complainers me thinks...Oh and the complainers didint place.

DevianID wrote:As an aside, whats with the low turn out around the country? Seems the average was a dozen players if that, and to be honest there was not a lot of stores to choose from for how many stores had the prelims. Too much travel time?

As I noted previously, I would have had to drive from San Jose to Reno, over the mountains, to get to my closest location. Wasn't going to happen.

Bad placement of semifinal locations on GW's part.

Ogres placed! Yay!

I wonder why the placement was so weird though. I've heard a lot of complaints about that. I wouldn't drive more than 2 hours to go to a tournament under any circumstances.

RiTides wrote: Daemons with no magic?? I'd like to see what that build was!

Thirster
2x 40 bloodletters w/herald
1x40 demonettes w/herald
1x20 plaguebearers w/herald.

I Played against orcs and Goblins, A teclis led high elf, and ANOTHER teclis led high elf for the win.

Anglacon wrote:

RiTides wrote: Daemons with no magic?? I'd like to see what that build was!

Thirster
2x 40 bloodletters w/herald
1x40 demonettes w/herald
1x20 plaguebearers w/herald.

I Played against orcs and Goblins, A teclis led high elf, and ANOTHER teclis led high elf for the win.

Great to see you crushing them cheezy Teclis builds!!!

So you were the one running the no-magic daemons? (Or was "for the win" just a "ftw" )

That was a smart move since the first scenario toned down magic (although it looks like you faced Teclis twice in the later missions?) although everyone with access to Life magic cast Throne of Vines (ignore miscasts on a 2+, I think?) and then went from there. Especially good for Kairos, since he had access to other lores afterwards, too.

Other people were blowing themselves up with magic in the first mission quite a bit!

I was rolling 2 and 3 dice on spells and rolling double 3s and 4s. Sigh...

We had 9 people show up.

1st - Warriors of Chaos (4 groups of rainbow warriors, 2 warshrines, 2 casters (one tzeetch, one nurgle?))
2nd - Warriors of Chaos
3ed - Lizardmen (slan w/ temple guard, 2 mounted vets., saurs blocks, 12 cavalry)
4th - Daemons
5th - Orcs & Gobos
6th - Dwarves

We had 14 people show up. I think I landed somewhere between 3ed-5th place... I may find out tomorrow when the store opens again, hopefully I don't have to drive all the way back their for a golden ticket. That would be annoying.

By Golden Ticket, are you meaning 'certificate that gets me into the final round'?

Generally, what people have been calling a Golden Ticket are the tickets/invites to the Throne of Skulls tournament in Las Vegas next year. The top 3 people at the East Coast, West Coast, and Chicago Final rounds will be given those. No Golden Tickets handed out for the Semi final rounds. (But better prizes.)

Yes, I mean the cirtificates for chicago. None were presented, nor do we know exactly who gets them. Do they trickle down if someone can't attend? Or was that just for quarter finals/last years 'Ard Boyz?

No certificates were given to TO's to give out. In theory, it trickles down to the next person, if one of the top 3 can't make it.

They used to give out certificates but I can only assume those fall into the "cost cutting" column now