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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 06:19:20
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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This is something which I have always found a little odd. There doesn't appear to be any type of Imperial Guard Regiment Originating from Terra, even though it is the capital of the Imperium. I'd like to know if anyone knows anything about this and I'd also like advice on creating a Terran regiment, such as what equipment they might use, etc.
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xXSir MontyXx wrote:bonerjamz wrote:Guardsman Gary: "Sir! The enemy is advancing for an all-out assault!"
Commander Carl: "Send in... THE KINDERGUARD!"
NO! WHO WILL DRAW THE PROPAGANDA POSTERS!?!?!?!?! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 06:25:57
Subject: Re:Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Terra has a PDF, the largest in the galaxy.
all forces recruited are put into it and not sent off world.
the massive defense force Terra has billions of Guardsmen, millions of navy ratings and Defense stations. plenty to occupy the recruitment capacity of Terra.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 06:46:16
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
British Columbia, Canada
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Is it feasable that an expeditionary force of some sort, or perhaps a small regiment, could be sent offworld?
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xXSir MontyXx wrote:bonerjamz wrote:Guardsman Gary: "Sir! The enemy is advancing for an all-out assault!"
Commander Carl: "Send in... THE KINDERGUARD!"
NO! WHO WILL DRAW THE PROPAGANDA POSTERS!?!?!?!?! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 06:59:04
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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AFAIK the Terran Imperial Guardsman are like Cadian Regiments - perhaps even better trained and supplied. They are only sent to the biggest and the most desperate battles being the elite regiments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 07:00:17
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Would they use Cadian Equipment, or is there no information on that?
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xXSir MontyXx wrote:bonerjamz wrote:Guardsman Gary: "Sir! The enemy is advancing for an all-out assault!"
Commander Carl: "Send in... THE KINDERGUARD!"
NO! WHO WILL DRAW THE PROPAGANDA POSTERS!?!?!?!?! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 08:18:43
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Stubborn Eternal Guard
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I am sure if there was a Terran Regiment they would probably field lots of Priests and Commissars, and have the finest equipment available.
Now, the only reason I could see these elite soldiers be sent away from Terra is if one of the High-Lords of Terra had a special interest on another planet and wanted to make sure it was completed. Now why said High-Lord not send another regiment in to do it, I will leave you to decide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 08:39:57
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Sneaky Kommando
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My guess is that the Terran PDF would stay mainly on world, just because the importance Terra has to the rest of the Imperium. It provides peace of mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 09:04:38
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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I recall someone on here a while ago saying something about there being terran regiments in the original Armageddon fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 09:05:02
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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I dont know where i read it but if I remember correctly the Terran regiments based off of the older civilizations.
The Mericans from the merican continent?
The Janizars from the middle east?
But considering the proximity to Mars and importance of the planet im sure they have the best equipment and training im sure they are also cycled off world to raise XP.
My Guard regiment is based off of the Mericans. They are all Vets with 3 plasma guns and missile launcher per squad.
their background is they were specially created and trained in tactics to defeat Astartes enemies. A precaution by the High lords and extra defence against another possible HH.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 09:24:44
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Dispassionate Imperial Judge
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The HH Books contain various amounts of info on the old Terran Imperial Army regiments. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Old_Hundred Some of the most notable regiments that came from Terra and fought in the Great Crusade were the Old Hundred - the regiments that already existed pre-unity and fought on the Emperor's side when he was conquering earth. These regiments were given a huge amount of respect. Some regiments mentioned as being from earth include Zanzibari Hort Geno Five Two Chiliad Byzant Janizars Lucifer Blacks There's been very little information on these formations post-heresy though. The assumption is that any of these regiments that survived the Heresy would still exist, but be confined to guarding Terra. (Given the very traditional nature of Imperial military honour, I doubt they would have all been folded into the '130th Terran PDF' or whatever) Of course, there's no reason you couldn't build an army and say that they have been sent on a tour of duty for training purposes. Also, even in the Crusade days, small units of the Old Hundred would be attached to fleets as honour guard and bodyguard. The Lucifer Blacks were so depleted by the start of the crusade that they were sent out in squad-level deployments as bodyguards for senior commanders. Maybe a particularly important Guard army in the 41st M would include a ceremonial regiment of Terran Guard as the Lord Commander's personal unit? EDIT - Though there is a continent continually referred to as Sud Merica, implying that there is a North Merica too, we're pretty unaware who, if anyone, lives there. The BOLS Macharian Crusade mentions a regiment called the Merican Fusiliers, but I think these were made up by BOLS because, you know, they want to play current-day US Military in 40k. Every army I've seen of 'Mericans' tend to portray them as super-powered Storm Trooper heavy infantry with tons of advanced tech. And built by Americans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 09:43:48
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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jonolikespie wrote:I recall someone on here a while ago saying something about there being terran regiments in the original Armageddon fluff.
That was me providing quote about ten Terran Praefects.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 13:21:56
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Because Terra is controlled by the Ecclesiarchy, not the Munitorum.
Though there are technically terran Praefects as mentioned above...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 13:41:06
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Legendary Dogfighter
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...
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ArbitorIan wrote:EDIT - Though there is a continent continually referred to as Sud Merica, implying that there is a North Merica too, we're pretty unaware who, if anyone, lives there. The BOLS Macharian Crusade mentions a regiment called the Merican Fusiliers, but I think these were made up by BOLS because, you know, they want to play current-day US Military in 40k. Every army I've seen of 'Mericans' tend to portray them as super-powered Storm Trooper heavy infantry with tons of advanced tech. And built by Americans. 
Yeah, BoLS' Macharian crusade portrayed two Terran regiments. The Merican Fusiliers and the Byzant Janizars. This is not canon however. It was not published by GW but by an association of gamers in the states. But they did a great job nevertheless. Here's the link: http://www.box.net/shared/2kdtqthn8a
These two regiments are not the only ones they created for the campaign, so you could get some inspiration from this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 14:30:29
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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Yes, Terran Guard regiments have been sent offworld, such as in the case of Armagaeddon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 14:38:07
Subject: Re:Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Legendary Dogfighter
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...
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Which terran regiments were sent to Armageddon? Because I can't find any info on these in the codex on Epic Armageddon.
In the list of the IG regiments that took part in the campaign, there are a few names I don't know, but none of them seem to come from Terra itself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 14:40:52
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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ArbitorIan wrote:The BOLS Macharian Crusade mentions a regiment called the Merican Fusiliers, but I think these were made up by BOLS because, you know, they want to play current-day US Military in 40k. Every army I've seen of 'Mericans' tend to portray them as super-powered Storm Trooper heavy infantry with tons of advanced tech. And built by Americans. 
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 16:12:01
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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however the byzant janissary are on the site of lexicanum, as part of the old hundred. There is nothing there about mericans though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 16:29:34
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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I swear I read somewhere about some enemy (chaos warlord?) fighting a terran tank regiment, and being openly contemptous of "scribes and clerks" being sent to fight him.
It was a minor fluff piece used to fill up space, but I'm pretty sure it mentioned Terra.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 17:05:20
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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There is some fluff in Armageddon about Terran Prefects regiments, but as was said most of the military population of Terra is probably dedicated to manning the defenses on Terra, Luna and the other fortresses throughout the Sol System.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 20:05:12
Subject: Re:Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Wraith
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I am almost positive that one of Dan Abnett's novels mentioned the Merican Fusiliers well before BoLS did their thing.
I would like to say it was a namedrop in the Eisenhorn trilogy, possibly the home regiment of an Inquisitor's Bodyguards?
BoLS were the ones who put the Star and Olive Drab on Stormtroopers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 20:10:59
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Polonius wrote:I swear I read somewhere about some enemy (chaos warlord?) fighting a terran tank regiment, and being openly contemptous of "scribes and clerks" being sent to fight him.
It was a minor fluff piece used to fill up space, but I'm pretty sure it mentioned Terra.
I believe this was in the previous Chaos codex, it was a bit charting the rise of a daemon prince, and they'd sent an Adeptus Terra militia armour unit to attack his army.
Knowing things like that is why I can't learn a second langauage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 20:20:19
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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AlexTheTitan wrote:Would they use Cadian Equipment, or is there no information on that?
They would most likely use equipment made on Mars, seeing as its next door
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 20:37:06
Subject: Re:Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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I guess because Terra is so important it's all PDF. There's a lot of problems on Earth that need military action so they could be quite experienced but ya, they must be a massive organization. I never thought about it, but it must be bigger than some sector IG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 03:45:29
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Not to be somewhat a troll, but I thought the entire IG was the PDF of Terra.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 04:48:39
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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Eh, not really. The IG exists to fight in the Emperor's Name, while the PDFs role is to defend their home planet. So, the IG does the Emperor's will (which can include defending Terra), but tthe Terran PDF will do nothing but defend Terra.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 04:57:39
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Calculating Commissar
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I thought that the Terran Regiment was actually kinda small, only about a billion men and a thousnad tanks, as well as two titan battle group things.
But really, the Terran PDF will only need to hold of an invasion until THE REST OF THE IMPERIUM ALL SHOW UP AT THE SAME TIME!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 05:13:21
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Happygrunt wrote:I thought that the Terran Regiment was actually kinda small, only about a billion men and a thousnad tanks, as well as two titan battle group things.
nah, thats just the garrison of the Imperial Palace
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 05:17:33
Subject: Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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And let's not forget the 10,000 Custodes!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 10:32:49
Subject: Re:Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Legendary Dogfighter
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Well, IMHO, terra's garrison only houses a minority of field troops. Most of it must consist of forces specialized in counter-insurgency and peace-keeping operations instead of classic warfare. The only role the Terran PDF has to fill in is to watch over Terra. Hence, I guess these troops are more akin to Arbites than regular IG soldiers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 11:13:42
Subject: Re:Why is there no Terran Imperial Guard?
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Laodamia wrote:Well, IMHO, terra's garrison only houses a minority of field troops. Most of it must consist of forces specialized in counter-insurgency and peace-keeping operations instead of classic warfare. The only role the Terran PDF has to fill in is to watch over Terra. Hence, I guess these troops are more akin to Arbites than regular IG soldiers.
Even as you say they are akin to Arbites, i am sure that Terran IG units (could be PDF) are more well equiped and better trained than Arbites. Seeing as they are protecting Holy Terra, the homeworld of humans and the largest and oldest shrine world in the Imperium. It is also where the Emperor rests. Due to the importance of thier role, I wouldnt be surprised if Mars supplied thier weapons and the soldiers undergo training that would make them an elite solid fighting force.
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