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So, its been a couple of weeks now since the solids hit the air conditioning and the nerdrage seems to have cooled from volcano-level boil to a mere furious simmer, so I thought I'd do a quick poll.

For those who have been living under a rock and don't know why I'm asking this question, GW has in the last 2 weeks:
1. Changed to a cheaper casting material yet increased prices up to 30%
2. Embargoed independant retailers from selling outside of Europe to force people in the rest of the world to pay much higher prices locally
3. **Disclaimer, rumour only** GW want to force independant retailers to only sell at RRP and not offer discounts
4. Issued a C&D to a company for making a model whose head is apparently too similar to the head of a model GW haven't made for 15 years (a minor point in the grand scheme of things, but still...)
5. Enforced total secrecy on all new releases, no more than 1 weeks warning of new product, WD subscribers to not get the magazine until after it is on sale in shops

For myself, this 2 week gakstorm has finally driven me away from GW after 23 years of loyal (if increasingly frustrated) custom - I feel genuinely gutted but you have to draw a line somewhere. Following a chat with the other guys I play with regularly, we're all going to start something new (not decided what yet - Warmahordes is current favourite) so thats at least 4 customers lost.

We all know that only losing customers will force GW to change, but how many of you will actually give up?

I went OMG WILL NEVAR BUY FROM GW EVAAAAAAAAAAR AGAIN when I first heard the news, but I probably will...

I've got so much stuff to paint that it'll last me for the next 15 years or so. I haven't bought anything GW related since I ordered something from Maelstrom, storm, whatever, last June. Now that GW has decided to stop the cheap route to buy their stuff, I'll blow my cash on something else. Where I am now a 1/35 RC Tiger Tank is LESS than a 16 man regiment box for WFB. I'll still paint the GW stuff I have and show it off, but I don't see myself buying anymore of their stuff.

I have two independent characters to get for my 1500pt BA army, then...

I'm done.

However, I'm quietly confident that this embargo won't last long, as someone, somewhere will get around it. At which point if i have finished all my painting projects i'll get some more.

*goes back underground...

While the concious decision to stop buying GW stuff (for now) came from the recent string of news my last purchase from GW was 7 or 8 months ago anyway (colors not counted).

So, yeah. I´ll concentrate my hobby budget on Warmachine for now. Maybe I´ll buy something from GW again once I finished my other GW stuff. That´s in the more or less far future, though.

I'm not so much 'quitting' GW, just moving to other areas (more deserving of my disposable income) until GW get their act together.

I mean, I love the GW 'hobby' what I don't like is the business decisions the company is currently making. I have enough hobby projects on the go at the moment to keep me going for a while (1500pts of Orks, 1000pts Skaven, Mordheim Zombie Pirates, Dystopian Wars EotBS) so there will be very little spending on models in the near future anyway.

I will still buy my paints from GW, simply because I like their colours and the quality is pretty good in my opinion, and the brushes are quite a good quality for the price (YES I can get much better brushes, NO I am not a decent enough/dedicated enough painter to warrant dropping a load of money on a Windsor&Newton). But no actual models until they get themselves sorted.

I'd pretty much stopped before this point having not bought anything "new" for quite some time but the latest price rise along with everything else has pretty much put the last nail in the coffin for me.

I may buy the odd thing from them in the future, but I'm going to move more into other figure ranges and display models.

I'm no longer purchasing GW products anymore because of these recent fiascos - instead I'm getting into Warmachine, so they'll be getting the money that would have instead gone towards a new Dark Eldar army. I'll not stop playing the game, since I've got around 2000 points of built Orks (with a Stompa and a Kustom Battle Fortress on the docket) so I've got plenty to keep me occupied in the meanwhile, as well as 500 points of built and painted Lizardmen for Fantasy. So unless GW makes some drastic changes, I think I'm done with them. It'll take something really fantastic to try and bring me back from this mess.

I'll spend the same money. That will obviously mean I get less for my money, hey that's life. 40K is just a part of my gaming hobby along with Board Games and Role-Playing Games.

Just going to make a few more purchases to flesh out my IG more, but thats about it. I will keep playing for a long while yet, no reason to get rid of my army after taking just over a year to build it, but my spending will definitly tail off. Anyhow, this is just giving me an excuse to get back into PnP RPG's again since I've more free money for books since i'm not spending it on mini's or paint.

Done my last order. GW can get fethed.

Well to be honest I had already stopped buying from them for several months last year...I didn't start up again until the Dark Eldar release, in which case I not only started buying but I was buying gak at full retail from my "local" store. Not only because I wanted to support the Dark Eldar release since it had been over a decade since the last one, but because the prices actually seemed somewhat reasonable for the most part. I can pay $25 for 10 warriors/wyches and $33 for a raider isn't too bad (although I'm still kind of annoyed that a ravager costs $50..for one extra sprue). Single models are still insane, but $15 for an archon was much better than $20+ for some characters. What I really liked was the $30 incubi, those are some pretty nice looking models and the price was almost too good to be true. It still would have cost well over $100 to get two units of them, but for GW that's on the cheaper side...

But seriously, all the crap that's happened just this past week is almost too much to take in at once. Not just the price increases (seriously, this has to stop eventually, it's getting harder and harder to justify spending money on this bs...oh yeah, and those reasonably-priced DE models, not so much anymore. I knew that wouldn't fething last), but this stupid embargo thing too, and then there's the blatant LIES with Citadel "Finecast" where they think if they keep telling us they're more detailed over and over then eventually we'll believe it (since I'm not blind yet I don't, and won't), when it's obviously nothing but a blatant cost-cutting measure and they're reaching pretty far into the barrel for excuses to justify the increased cost.

And I think what really tops it all off is this "no news until a week before" nonsense. GW's "advertising" was already a god damn joke, and just when you think they can't get any worse, they do it. It seriously feels like they were browsing Dakka for a few months, reading all of our complaints, and then said "Oh, you don't like the Incoming! e-mails huh? Fine then, we won't say ANYTHING until the week before then! Take that you fething douchebags!" That's what this is, GW is trolling us.

So now I have to ask myself if it's worth feeding the troll. I'm going to try and finish my Dark Eldar army and then I'm calling it quits. At least until they can pull their head out of their ass and come back down to earth for a bit. I have plenty of other hobbies I can spend money on, so if GW doesn't want it there are plenty of others who do.

No, i'm not even gonna pretend i want to.

No. Just cutting down a lot though.

I'll mainly just be mixing it up. I'm only recently back to the game and would like to finish just the one army but my days from buying from store are limited i think, will be using wayland as i'm fortunate enough to live in the UK.

It has encouraged myself and a couple of diehard GW friends of old to buy some Warmachine/hordes and dust off the D&D 3.5 stuff though as a side line so it seems to have been good for the tabletop diversity i guess ^^

Short answer:
Yes

Long answer:
You can find me between Pig Iron Productions and Infinity: the Game

Due to the current GW business practice's im dropping them like a hot potato. Recently took delivery of 30 Mantic Elves, so that is where my disposable income is going now.

Unless GW sort themselves out quickly, they will never have my money again.

Leigen_Zero wrote:I'm not so much 'quitting' GW, just moving to other areas (more deserving of my disposable income) until GW get their act together.

I mean, I love the GW 'hobby' what I don't like is the business decisions the company is currently making. I have enough hobby projects on the go at the moment to keep me going for a while (1500pts of Orks, 1000pts Skaven, Mordheim Zombie Pirates, Dystopian Wars EotBS) so there will be very little spending on models in the near future anyway.

I will still buy my paints from GW, simply because I like their colours and the quality is pretty good in my opinion, and the brushes are quite a good quality for the price (YES I can get much better brushes, NO I am not a decent enough/dedicated enough painter to warrant dropping a load of money on a Windsor&Newton). But no actual models until they get themselves sorted.

+1


Also OP you forgot the WD F&*k around

It's possible to stop buying GW products without leaving the game. My IG army is 80% non-GW.

My last purchase was last month. After buying their stuff for the last 24 years, I have an adequate supply of them (and four armies in excess of 4500pts (two are actually in excess of 12,000pts).

I can happily play with them without adding any more to them at least until the next rules edition.

My SM army which has weathered changes since RT, will survive mostly unscathed. There'll be some new units that I don't need to get (I don't play 40k tourneys so the 'meta' game is irrelevant), but until they change things so that a tac marine no longer has a bolt gun as a basic weapon, they'll *ahem* soldier on.
My Eldar have likewise weathered changes from Rt until now. The aspects are more or less as they were from 1990 (points and some gear changes, but essentially, the basic aspect warrior is unchanged in terms of equipment).

I gotta admit, I love GW models and the 40K game. There's no other table top game like it that I play or enjoy. But the marketing strategy is an insult to its customers and the ever increasing prices are worse than petrol in the UK!!!

I buy nothing from the stores and very very little from their website (just the direct only stuff) and increasingly I just buy it on ebay (they can't stop me doing that!) rather than the discounted retailers.

Its just not practical. And as much as this new matieral is meant to be better - I don't like it. And I'm not paying more for it. If its not up to scrutiny or sampling before its big release then they're probably hoping that people won't notice that they're paying more money for a cheaper model thats more fragile.

Rant over - GW you've been great but until you reduce your prices (if such a thing is ever possible) you're not worth it anymore....

Stopped buying GW models last year, when the last price rise cam into effect. I have bought one or two terrain pieces and some army books since but that's been the sum of it.

I will continue to play Fantasy (using Mantic miniatures) and 40K using my existing armies but as of now, I am no longer purchasing anything from GW in any shape or form.

Also, I am starting up Warmachine as an alternative.

We get thread after thread every year with people saying they are quitting and boycotting GW etc, but this time round I think a critical mass has been reached. Just take the Facebook responses and comments left - I have not hitherto seen such amounts of ire directed at GW and in such volume. There have always been dissenting voices but rarely have they spoken with a unified voice. This time round, I think GW have pushed too far and I think the next few financial reports will make for interesting reading.

I was going to get a new Army, but I think I'm going to hold off for now. This is really a huge put off. I'll have to see how the Necron Release goes, since that's one of my armies, but I doubt I'll be picking up the 4th army I was planning anytime soon.

So, in short, Depending on how the Necron Release goes, I suspect I'll be spending a lot on that, but other than that and the odd model or so, I probably won't be picking up much more.

I also have noticed that filbert... every year we have prices adjustments and some people do reach a breaking point but this year I have never seen nothing quite like this. Never seen so many and so much complaints in all the years I have been around... and neither I remember a ceo responding online to the complaints.

I've just seen the prices on GW's Finecast for Tomb Kings:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=16700037a
£22.50 for an army book and £70 for a plastic battalion!
That's not anything to do with Finecast, either.

I'll still be buying GW, but not from GW. And, when the prices go up, not as much.

Paints, bases, books etc only - rest will be from ebay!

Well, if I were GW, looking at this thread and the poll, I'd say they will be doing fine in the future. Add to the general "break even" between those who say they're leaving against those who will continue, the fresh new customers they always seem to bring in, and GW may just have done it again.

While I appreciate that not everyone on Dakka has taken part in this poll, however given all the ranting that has been indulged in during the last few weeks, I'm mildly surprised by the results.

I was going to start a Bad Moonz/Evil Sunz ork waaagh but not now...

In the last twelve months, GW has sold me two brushes and three pots of paint.
And the paint was only because, I want them all the same colour.
Everything else was S/H off ebay, from people who where giving up the hobby.
Even my glue was from an independent shop.

I have for the last 8 months only being buy a few things from them. Mostly paint and Black Library books with the occasional box of Minis.

But even then the last thing I purchased direct from GW was the Grey Knights Codex back in April.

I may still get the odd mini from them (there is some BFG stuff I want) but for now, unless I can get a job with £14k a year I will look into other companies and try something new.

Already cut back severly a few months ago.
Stopped completely now. I'm currently tidying up my work room and relieving it of any GW stuff. Funny how much (unopened) stuff gathers in the room of a converter over the years. Oh well, I'll store it somewhere, maybe sell it, maybe pick it up once the IP got eaten by some bigger fish. Currently, I get sick when I look at it. Oh well, new dawn, space for new projects!