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So uh yeah. Pull up a chair and discuss the gak that really matters. With ol' Shadowbrand.

First topic.

"How long do you think humanity will exist?"

I personally think we could wipe ourselves out in as little as another century. Call me morbid, but everything seems to be going down the fething toilet.

Now it's your turn. Disagree, agree throw in your own two cents. just discuss, and hopefully you have more to say then I do. I'll post up a new topic every fort night or so.

I feel I was alittle vague. But humanity in recent years has seen to just stop caring. I can't help but feel there is a growing apathy in society. I could see something like say, a super virus or two big figure countries. the Uk,Russia or China etc picking a fight and as the whole circus erupts with exploding monkeys and cyborg strippers with laser nipple tassles we will just sit there, glued to some electronic device, eating popcorn.

Sounds accurate enough. What you're suggesting sounds like a mixture of V for Vendetta and i, Robot.

I think we'll keep on holding on for a while, but unless something really changes, then yeah, bad stuff is going to happen, and when it does, best be underground with ye dwarves.

I'll be drunk/old or dead too much to care when it does happen.

Wait...I'm just contributing to the problem now.

I think humans will be around for quite some time.

Could happen any time now. Already started. Economic turmoil, governments going broke, guess whats next?

snurl wrote:Could happen any time now. Already started. Economic turmoil, governments going broke, guess whats next?

An ecstatic orgy of sights and sounds to tantalize the senses and invigorate the spirit that goes on for hundreds of years. Everyone knows that.

snurl wrote:Could happen any time now. Already started. Economic turmoil, governments going broke, guess whats next?

Humans don't need the government, money, etc to live they are just social constructs that we choose to abide by, you can go live off the land if you really wanted to and never be affiliated with the

government whatsoever for example.

snurl wrote:Could happen any time now. Already started. Economic turmoil, governments going broke, guess whats next?

Said the Victorians.

Said rennaissance philosophers.

Said medieval writers.

Said every peasant in the field since history began.

Not really a particularly philosophical question.

They will gradually become more in the line, I just couldn't think of a better word to use and really. It's the deepest thoughts to walk into my mind. Philosophy seemed like the best word I could use.

Shadowbrand wrote:They will gradually become more in the line, I just couldn't think of a better word to use and really. It's the deepest thoughts to walk into my mind. Philosophy seemed like the best word I could use.

How about the "Future of Humanity"?

Define 'humanity' The human race might live on as feral cannibals when humanity is long gone...

Humanity as in our existence.

to put it as fething simple as possible. "How long does our race have until we go the way of the dodo bird?"

Phototoxin wrote:Define 'humanity' The human race might live on as feral cannibals when humanity is long gone...

hu·man·i·ty

/(h)yo͞oˈmanitē/

Noun:

1.The human race; human beings collectively.
2.The fact or condition of being human; human nature.
3.Humaneness; benevolence
4.Learning or literature concerned with human culture, esp. literature, history, art, music, and philosophy

Phototoxin wrote:Define 'humanity' The human race might live on as feral cannibals when humanity is long gone...

Well, Khorne will be pleased at least.

Shadowbrand wrote:Humanity as in our existence.

to put it as fething simple as possible. "How long does our race have until we go the way of the dodo bird?"

As long as it takes teenagers to stop pretending they have insight into philosophy.

snurl wrote:Could happen any time now. Already started. Economic turmoil, governments going broke, guess whats next?

Aptly enough, Xmas.

I think overpopulation will threaten our survival at some point. Global population has spiked within the last maybe 300 years. And I mean it has really spiked. Like, majorly, massively spiked.

As long it takes for some insane scientist to discover that we all are ruled by evil hamster overlords. Then we are all fethed

Skarwael wrote:I think overpopulation will threaten our survival at some point. Global population has spiked within the last maybe 300 years. And I mean it has really spiked. Like, majorly, massively spiked.

Just passed 7 billion last month. It took 12 years to grow from 6 billion. Thats a lotta people.

I think one century is jumping the gun a bit, maybe two, although I don't think we will ever be truly wiped out so much as reduced to a shadow of our former glory(if you want to call it that).

snurl wrote:

Skarwael wrote:I think overpopulation will threaten our survival at some point. Global population has spiked within the last maybe 300 years. And I mean it has really spiked. Like, majorly, massively spiked.

Just passed 7 billion last month. It took 12 years to grow from 6 billion. Thats a lotta people.

Yes, but it has been predicted that world population will stagnate around 2100 due to the LEDCs (less economically developed countries) beginning to adapt a style more similar to MEDCs (more " ").

As such they will have less children and world population will stagnate, especially because population in Europe will start to go down so much due to low birth rates. If you think there are a lot of Indian and Chinese people on the planet right now, just wait unitl 2100!

I just don't think we are supposed to live an interact so closely together.

Our base instincts and traits may get swamped by current social mores and ethics that we create ourselves. That is our downfall in a way.

Shadowbrand wrote:So uh yeah. Pull up a chair and discuss the gak that really matters. With ol' Shadowbrand.

First topic.

"How long do you think humanity will exist?"

I personally think we could wipe ourselves out in as little as another century. Call me morbid, but everything seems to be going down the fething toilet.

Now it's your turn. Disagree, agree throw in your own two cents. just discuss, and hopefully you have more to say then I do. I'll post up a new topic every fort night or so.

I feel I was alittle vague. But humanity in recent years has seen to just stop caring. I can't help but feel there is a growing apathy in society. I could see something like say, a super virus or two big figure countries. the Uk,Russia or China etc picking a fight and as the whole circus erupts with exploding monkeys and cyborg strippers with laser nipple tassles we will just sit there, glued to some electronic device, eating popcorn.

This isn't really philosophy though is it?!

I mean, it cant be. I have no interest at all in talking philosophy, but this subject intrigues me.

About 7 years ago I was in Afghanistan and my Dad sent me a pack of stuff to read. I had a quick look on google and had no luck, but basically one issue of New Scientist had a special about the 8 possible different directions of human evolution in the future. There was android hybrid human, gene-spliced mutant human, and most interestingly there was post apocalypse human, where the Scientists talked about how they would see us changing if in the future an apocalyptic event strikes the earth.

It made good reading, but basically they believed that even if 99.99% of the population was killed, we still have such vast numbers that a large amount of people would survive. And that the ones that survived would inside a few generations be the smartest and strongest humans having survived in such conditions.

Personally, that sounds cool to me.

I am a very strong misanthropist and have a deep rooted loathing for my own species. Its why I am always arguing with liberal hippy types, because I feel that their short sighted outlook of the world basically feths my life up. The "moral" high ground that they enjoy only exists because of our relative plenty. Put them on an island with only enough food to support one family, and I have no doubt at all that the majority of them would happily eat my kids. But that's a whole new thread anyway...

Yeah, Darwin must be spinning in his grave when our most educated and healthy stock breed so slowly, but toothless obese simpletons breed like rats. Have you seen the state of the UK? If you are educated to degree level you average 1.8 kids or something. If your an illiterate chav halfwit with diabetes, a club foot and a chemical addiction to nicotine you will have 16 kids. They will go next door and feth the 16 kids that the other couple who have been on the dole for 15 years, you know.. the one's with the whooping cough and the cleft pallet and voila! Inside two generations you have (16x16) 256 mutants. Ready to burgle/gang rape the 1.8 pleasant well meaning citizens that the doctor and the lawyer had!

In a nutshell, sure the worlds fethed up, but I disagree with your premise that we will wipe ourselves out. Even after a nuclear war plenty will live, and the strong will eat the weak. Like it should be!

Other than that, if were lucky enough to avoid any large scale wars, Its more likely that we will reach a tipping point, and do the smart thing that we should have done ages ago.

Stop fething so much.

There will be a major armed conflict this century, of that much I am certain. It will NOT involve nuclear exchange.

mattyrm wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:So uh yeah. Pull up a chair and discuss the gak that really matters. With ol' Shadowbrand.

First topic.

"How long do you think humanity will exist?"

I personally think we could wipe ourselves out in as little as another century. Call me morbid, but everything seems to be going down the fething toilet.

Now it's your turn. Disagree, agree throw in your own two cents. just discuss, and hopefully you have more to say then I do. I'll post up a new topic every fort night or so.

I feel I was alittle vague. But humanity in recent years has seen to just stop caring. I can't help but feel there is a growing apathy in society. I could see something like say, a super virus or two big figure countries. the Uk,Russia or China etc picking a fight and as the whole circus erupts with exploding monkeys and cyborg strippers with laser nipple tassles we will just sit there, glued to some electronic device, eating popcorn.

This isn't really philosophy though is it?!

I mean, it cant be. I have no interest at all in talking philosophy, but this subject intrigues me.

About 7 years ago I was in Afghanistan and my Dad sent me a pack of stuff to read. I had a quick look on google and had no luck, but basically one issue of New Scientist had a special about the 8 possible different directions of human evolution in the future. There was android hybrid human, gene-spliced mutant human, and most interestingly there was post apocalypse human, where the Scientists talked about how they would see us changing if in the future an apocalyptic event strikes the earth.

It made good reading, but basically they believed that even if 99.99% of the population was killed, we still have such vast numbers that a large amount of people would survive. And that the ones that survived would inside a few generations be the smartest and strongest humans having survived in such conditions.

Personally, that sounds cool to me.

I am a very strong misanthropist and have a deep rooted loathing for my own species. Its why I am always arguing with liberal hippy types, because I feel that their short sighted outlook of the world basically feths my life up. The "moral" high ground that they enjoy only exists because of our relative plenty. Put them on an island with only enough food to support one family, and I have no doubt at all that the majority of them would happily eat my kids. But that's a whole new thread anyway...

Yeah, Darwin must be spinning in his grave when our most educated and healthy stock breed so slowly, but toothless obese simpletons breed like rats. Have you seen the state of the UK? If you are educated to degree level you average 1.8 kids or something. If your an illiterate chav halfwit with diabetes, a club foot and a chemical addiction to nicotine you will have 16 kids. They will go next door and feth the 16 kids that the other couple who have been on the dole for 15 years, you know.. the one's with the whooping cough and the cleft pallet and voila! Inside two generations you have (16x16) 256 mutants. Ready to burgle/gang rape the 1.8 pleasant well meaning citizens that the doctor and the lawyer had!

In a nutshell, sure the worlds fethed up, but I disagree with your premise that we will wipe ourselves out. Even after a nuclear war plenty will live, and the strong will eat the weak. Like it should be!

Other than that, if were lucky enough to avoid any large scale wars, Its more likely that we will reach a tipping point, and do the smart thing that we should have done ages ago.

Stop fething so much.

Actually people are getting smarter.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18983_5-complaints-about-modern-life-that-are-statistically-b.s..html

Philosophy is for people too stupid for science.
Sorry, but it's true. Want answers to things? Look in a textbook.

Joey wrote:Philosophy is for people too stupid for science.
Sorry, but it's true. Want answers to things? Look in a textbook.

Oh god, please don't let this turn into a hard science vs. soft science debate.

Nerivant wrote:

Joey wrote:Philosophy is for people too stupid for science.
Sorry, but it's true. Want answers to things? Look in a textbook.

Oh god, please don't let this turn into a hard science vs. soft science debate.

There are only two questions:
Is it supported by evidence?
How conclusive is the evidence?
Everything else is fluff.

Joey wrote:

Nerivant wrote:

Joey wrote:Philosophy is for people too stupid for science.
Sorry, but it's true. Want answers to things? Look in a textbook.

Oh god, please don't let this turn into a hard science vs. soft science debate.

There are only two questions:
Is it supported by evidence?
How conclusive is the evidence?
Everything else is fluff.

What is evidence?