Iran TV: US spy drone shot down over Iran

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**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

From Sky News:

Iran's military has shot down an unmanned US aircraft over the east of the country, state TV has reported.

"Iran's military has downed an intruding RQ-170 American drone in eastern Iran," Iran's Arabic-language Al Alam state television network quoted an unnamed military source as saying.

A report on English-language Press TV said the drone was "downed with minimum damage" and seized by Iranian officials.

The RQ-170 Sentinel is an unmanned stealth aircraft used for reconnaissance. It is not designed to carry weapons.

The semi-official Fars news agency, which is believed to be close to the Revolutionary Guard military force, said Iran would respond to the violation of its airspace with actions beyond its own borders.

There was no immediate comment on the claims from the US military.

The reports came amid worsening relations between the West and Iran over its nuclear programme after the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) issued a report it said showed Iran had worked on designing an atomic bomb .

Iran has insisted its nuclear ambitions are entirely peaceful, but prompted the US and European Union to agree tighter sanctions on Iranian companies and individuals.

Earlier on Sunday, Iran's foreign ministry warned that any move to extend those sanctions to block oil exports would double the price of crude.

"As soon as such an issue is raised seriously the oil price would soar to above \$250 a barrel," foreign ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast was quoted as saying.

More to follow...

Seems to be deja vu all over again when it comes to building a case for war. If America wants to attack Iran, then good luck to them. My only hope is that British soldiers don't get dragged into this, but seeing as Cameron is spineless, then it's a forlorn hope.

**mattyrm**

Why is Cameron spineless? What are you basing this on?

**Albatross**

mattyrm wrote:Why is Cameron spineless? What are you basing this on?

Yeah, that's a strange one. He's by no means a Dove. He pushed pretty hard for intervention in Libya, after all. Also, how is wanting to get involved in a war 'spineless'?

**murdog**

I'm not saying he is or isn't spineless, but wanting to get involved in a war alongside the US means that for some, once again the Brit PM will be seen as the lapdog of the President.

**LoneLictor**

Damn, hope the US doesn't get involved in another war we don't really need.

**Orlanth**

Cameron is certainly not Obama's lapdog. He has distanced himself from the tone of relationship between Blair Brown the the US presidents in office at the time.

Besides Obama is not to be trusted, not by us anyway.

**LordofHats**

If anyone is going to get dragged into a war with Iran at this point it'll be the UK. If a war starts I don't think there's a way to avoid it and it really looks like there might be a war.

Look on the bright side though, if there is, Iran started it with a suicidal foreign policy

**Orlanth**

Back to Iran shooting down the drone.

Its an incursion, by an unmanned military unit, shooting it down was within the Iranians rights. It sends a message and one they have a right to send, noone has the right to intrude upon their airspace, especially not with as military unit. Iran's borders are not contested, so there is no excuse to claim that the territory was not Iranian.

Hopefully this story will die down and not be considered a provocative act by Iran. Iran was not being provocative, whoever sent the drone was.

**LordofHats**

Orlanth wrote:Hopefully this story will die down and not be considered a provocative act by Iran. Iran was not being provocative, whoever sent the drone was.

Iran has been provocative. The drone was shot down near a nuclear site. Iran's refusal to cease its development program has sent us in this direction. Alternatively, we could ignore the very obvious weapons development in the country, but Iran isn't a county I'd trust with nukes. They supply terrorist organizations, fund insurgent operations, and destabilize the whole the region. Iran has been proxy killing US troops for nearly a decade now.

No one is to blame but Iran for this situation.

**Orlanth**

LordofHats wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Hopefully this story will die down and not be considered a provocative act by Iran. Iran was not being provocative, whoever sent the drone was.

Iran has been provocative. The drone was shot down near a nuclear site. Iran's refusal to cease its development program has sent us in this direction. Alternatively, we could ignore the very obvious weapons development in the country, but Iran isn't a county I'd trust with nukes. They supply terrorist organizations, fund insurgent operations, and destabilize the whole the region. Iran has been proxy killing US troops for nearly a decade now.

No one is to blame but Iran for this situation.

Iraq complied, we know how that turned out.
North Korea hasn't, and got away with it.
On top of that Israel completely and blatantly ignores international arms development limitations. They have also threatened to use nukes, which is something Iran has yet to say.

I can see Irans point of view. More to the point so does China and to a lesser extent Russia.

**Pyriel-**

Any proof that a drone was actually shot down? Pics or it didnt happen.
Or is it another one of those photoshopped iranian missiles deal?

**dogma**

LordofHats wrote:If anyone is going to get dragged into a war with Iran at this point it'll be the UK. If a war starts I don't think there's a way to avoid it and it really looks like there might be a war.

Look on the bright side though, if there is, Iran started it with a suicidal foreign policy

So, I should put the words "Middle" "East" and "specialist" in bold when I submit my application to State?

**purplefood**

Pyriel- wrote:Any proof that a drone was actually shot down? Pics or it didnt happen.
Or is it another one of those photoshopped iranian missiles deal?

+Any proof that it was American?

**mstersmith3**

I dont mind the nation smashing part of war its the bs nation building and COIN operations that cause casualties. Go in smash their toys pack our crap and go home. I am hoping we have learned our leason from Iraq and Afghanistan but then again they said the same about Vietnam.

**Jihadin**

"Iran's military has downed an intruding RQ-170 American drone in eastern Iran," Iran's Arabic-language Al Alam state television network quoted the unnamed source as saying.

So um....

**Kanluwen**

They've claimed this before.

They've also claimed they created their own drone, and it looked like a photoshopped RQ-170 in the pressjunkets.

**LordofHats**

dogma wrote:So, I should put the words "Middle" "East" and "specialist" in bold when I submit my application to State?

It never hurts

I doubt Iran would claim to have shot down a drone if it hadn't shot one down. The US is the world's number 1 operator of drones and given the situation and location of the incident it seems very probable that a drone would have been in the area and may have been shot down. Maybe not, but it's not outside possibility.

Iraq complied, we know how that turned out.

Iraq was a different situation. They got called out for invading Kuwait for first time and we told them to cease there. If anything, the second invasion where we thought they still had WMD's should have told Iran 'we will invade you' not the opposite.

North Korea hasn't, and got away with it.

North Korea is shielded by proximity to China (and I'm sure Iran isn't so dumb as to not know that). The idea that China or Russia care about Iran's arms development is meaningless. The US could do a turn around, be for Iran with nukes, and China and Russia would decry the US as destabilizing the Middle East and proliferating WMD. I don't care what Russia or China vote for in the UNSC. They usual just vote the opposite of what the US wants for no other reason than the US wants it. It's international posturing.

**Jihadin**

Didn't germany kind of staged something similiar with Poland before they invaded?

**halonachos**

I'm sure Israel will do something well before any US or UK action takes place.I heartily believe that the munitions dept explosion earlier this year was some sort of Israeli black ops but Iran doesn't want to own up to that.

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

If Iranian TV says it was an American drone, then that's good enough for me.

@Jihadin, Yeah, the Germans did do that. They took prisoners from a concentration camp, dressed them up as German Infantry and got the SS to shoot them, and blamed it on Poland.

Any attack would be sheer lunacy - driving up oil prices at a time of recession, not to mention the innocent women and children who always seem to die at the hands of warmongers, be they British/American/Iranian whatever.

Britain has been meddling in Iranian affairs for years, it's high time we stopped.

**Jihadin**

So Iran going to invade Afghanistan to get to the us....Coalition Forces.....maybe the drone shoot down is Iran wayto draw some heat of them from UK embassy..Iran invade Afghanistan....I couldn't give Afghanistan land fast enough to them if I had a choice...

**Melissia**

Just build another one.

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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:If Iranian TV says it was an American drone, then that's good enough for me.

Trololololololol

**Pyriel-**

Any attack would be sheer lunacy - driving up oil prices at a time of recession, not to mention the innocent women and children who always seem to die at the hands of warmongers, be they British/American/Iranian whatever.

Not necessarily. It also depends on what the saudi and kuwait does, they could comply regarding to keeping oil prices low for a while.

**Jihadin**

Any attack would be sheer lunacy - driving up oil prices at a time of recession, not to mention the innocent women and children who always seem to die at the hands of warmongers, be they British/American/Iranian whatever.

US does not buy oil from Iran

**Ketara**

Orlanth wrote:On top of that Israel completely and blatantly ignores international arms development limitations. They have also threatened to use nukes, which is something Iran has yet to say.

When was that? Israel has never even officially admitted to possessing nukes, let alone threatening to use them on anyone.

**ShumaGorath**

Ketara wrote:
Orlanth wrote:On top of that Israel completely and blatantly ignores international arms development limitations. They have also threatened to use nukes, which is something Iran has yet to say.

When was that? Israel has never even officially admitted to possessing nukes, let alone threatening to use them on anyone.

Iran has also threatened to wipe israel off the face of the earth. Not with nukes as they "don't have them", but the sentiment is fairly clear.

Honestly, this sounds like a propaganda piece to me. Iran doesn't have something other then dumbfire anti air that can shoot down a modern stealth aircraft, and they'd have to see or find it first. Given the current drone track record the thing could of just fallen out of the sky on it's own accord though. Irans government is nothing if not opportunistic in it's effort to keep the populace xenophobic and anti western.

**Jihadin**

Iran has also threatened to wipe israel off the face of the earth. Not with nukes as they "don't have them", but the sentiment is fairly clear

I'm with Shumster here. Iran I'manutforpresident has stated that quite a few time. Do believe he even said it once in the UN during one of the shopping spree his group done.

Has Iran produce the drone aircraft yet? Pics? When the stealth fighter got shot down in Kosovo we were seeing the actual aircraft in like 4 hrs or something. BTW it was done by using SAM site radars and they guessed a point in air to get the aircraft.

**Melissia**

They've also threatened to bomb Turkey too.

**Jihadin**

Turkey part of NATO so and have a missil defence system in place. Do believe they brought some Patriots. He's going to hit Isreal first just to unit the Islam pop.

**AustonT**

"Iran's military has downed an intruding RQ-170 American drone in eastern Iran,"

I doubt it, for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is Iran's frequently less than reliable news reporting. This is opportunistic propaganda at it's finest. Earlier this week ISAF said they lost a UAV or more specifically

A U.S. official with knowledge of the incident said the crew operating the unmanned drone reported a loss of flight control just before the drone went down.

first of all I doubt it was an Air Force UAV, second I doubt it was a satcom UAV, third I doubt landed in Iran. I expect pictures to be released in the media of tue offending dirt dart surrounded by recovery team to surface within days. Or more like a hill side covered in grey paint chips and smashed computer bits barely recognizable as something that flies