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Sometime in the last twohours the price increases came into effect on the GW website in the UK

They were not increased when I first looked this afternoon and now they are.

Not that many things have rised in price so not to bad but still shame on GW rising prices in this time of economical struggle.

Maelstrom are good.

Gifts for Geeks are cheaper still.

Its ridiculous, SM Battleforce has doubled in four years... my wages haven't!

commisar rhodes wrote:Not that many things have rised in price so not to bad but still shame on GW rising prices in this time of economical struggle.

yes shame on GW for doing what pretty much every company has done in the last 4 years, on a rather consistent basis (not just GW)

For our US friends who don't have to pay astronomical prices for "GAS" like we do, petrol has increased by 50% in the last four years here... even the world raping oil companies and our pirate tax government aren't as bad as GW!

As previously stated SM Battleforce doubled in 4 years!

sparkywtf wrote:

commisar rhodes wrote:Not that many things have rised in price so not to bad but still shame on GW rising prices in this time of economical struggle.

yes shame on GW for doing what pretty much every company has done in the last 4 years, on a rather consistent basis (not just GW)

Except that no other miniature company as done this... But don't let something like facts get in the way of your white knighting...

PhantomViper wrote:

sparkywtf wrote:

commisar rhodes wrote:Not that many things have rised in price so not to bad but still shame on GW rising prices in this time of economical struggle.

yes shame on GW for doing what pretty much every company has done in the last 4 years, on a rather consistent basis (not just GW)

Except that no other miniature company as done this... But don't let something like facts get in the way of your white knighting...

Yes because miniature companies are the only companies in the world. And at least I can get GW products unlike PP where I am still waiting on kits after months.

sparkywtf wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

sparkywtf wrote:

commisar rhodes wrote:Not that many things have rised in price so not to bad but still shame on GW rising prices in this time of economical struggle.

yes shame on GW for doing what pretty much every company has done in the last 4 years, on a rather consistent basis (not just GW)

Except that no other miniature company as done this... But don't let something like facts get in the way of your white knighting...

Yes because miniature companies are the only companies in the world. And at least I can get GW products unlike PP where I am still waiting on kits after months.

Face it, they're ripping us off again and there are still people happy to be duped by them... I for one will not be buyng from GW at source anymore.

I saved loads buying my Ork Bombers and Talon from GfG this weekend. Whislt I'm aware that GW still get their cut, it's not as much and it makes me feel much better not to have to deal with them face to face after this!

sparkywtf wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

sparkywtf wrote:

commisar rhodes wrote:Not that many things have rised in price so not to bad but still shame on GW rising prices in this time of economical struggle.

yes shame on GW for doing what pretty much every company has done in the last 4 years, on a rather consistent basis (not just GW)

Except that no other miniature company as done this... But don't let something like facts get in the way of your white knighting...

Yes because miniature companies are the only companies in the world. And at least I can get GW products unlike PP where I am still waiting on kits after months.

Considering that we are in a miniature gaming forum, talking about a miniature gaming company, I would think the price rises of potato plantations in Alaska wouldn't be very relevant to this discussion, apparently I'm wrong...

Also, I fail to realise what your failure to get a decent miniature supplier has anything to do with yearly, above inflation, miniature price rises... But again I bow to your superior reasoning and debate skills.

PhantomViper wrote:

sparkywtf wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

sparkywtf wrote:

commisar rhodes wrote:Not that many things have rised in price so not to bad but still shame on GW rising prices in this time of economical struggle.

yes shame on GW for doing what pretty much every company has done in the last 4 years, on a rather consistent basis (not just GW)

Except that no other miniature company as done this... But don't let something like facts get in the way of your white knighting...

Yes because miniature companies are the only companies in the world. And at least I can get GW products unlike PP where I am still waiting on kits after months.

Considering that we are in a miniature gaming forum, talking about a miniature gaming company, I would think the price rises of potato plantations in Alaska wouldn't be very relevant to this discussion, apparently I'm wrong...

Also, I fail to realise what your failure to get a decent miniature supplier has anything to do with yearly, above inflation, miniature price rises... But again I bow to your superior reasoning and debate skills.

How about the what seems like monthly increases in raw materials. Would that be relevant? Plastic and resin prices are not set in stone FOREVER. They have been increasing, and resin raw materials have taken a few bumps up in the last 6-8 months for producers, which gets passed on to consumers.

Also, I am not a complete white knight, I know GW is bending us over, I just wish they would use some lube.

PhantomViper wrote:
Also, I fail to realise what your failure to get a decent miniature supplier has anything to do with yearly, above inflation, miniature price rises... But again I bow to your superior reasoning and debate skills.

I'm not sure how you can fail to realize the fact that Privateer Press cannot maintain a steady level of supply is an issue.
For the past few years, right around the time GW raises prices Privateer Press has a "Summer Sale" of introductory sets.
For the past few years, that then proceeds to wreak havoc on an already overstretched supply chain.

When shops have to go through 2+ suppliers in addition to the company itself to maintain a basic level of stock, there's an issue.

Kanluwen wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:
Also, I fail to realise what your failure to get a decent miniature supplier has anything to do with yearly, above inflation, miniature price rises... But again I bow to your superior reasoning and debate skills.

I'm not sure how you can fail to realize the fact that Privateer Press cannot maintain a steady level of supply is an issue.
For the past few years, right around the time GW raises prices Privateer Press has a "Summer Sale" of introductory sets.
For the past few years, that then proceeds to wreak havoc on an already overstretched supply chain.

When shops have to go through 2+ suppliers in addition to the company itself to maintain a basic level of stock, there's an issue.

This is a GW Price rise thread, not a "how bad are Privateer Press" thread!

Kanluwen wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:
Also, I fail to realise what your failure to get a decent miniature supplier has anything to do with yearly, above inflation, miniature price rises... But again I bow to your superior reasoning and debate skills.

I'm not sure how you can fail to realize the fact that Privateer Press cannot maintain a steady level of supply is an issue.
For the past few years, right around the time GW raises prices Privateer Press has a "Summer Sale" of introductory sets.
For the past few years, that then proceeds to wreak havoc on an already overstretched supply chain.

When shops have to go through 2+ suppliers in addition to the company itself to maintain a basic level of stock, there's an issue.

I'm not saying its not an issue, I'm saying that it has absolutely no relevance to a thread discussing GW's yearly, above inflation price rises.

Saying: "yeah, GW increases prices every year above the actual value of inflation, but its OK because I'm having difficulty getting my hands in Warmahordes minis", its a strange way to debate something...

sparkywtf wrote:
How about the what seems like monthly increases in raw materials. Would that be relevant? Plastic and resin prices are not set in stone FOREVER. They have been increasing, and resin raw materials have taken a few bumps up in the last 6-8 months for producers, which gets passed on to consumers.

GW are hardly the only miniature company to use plastic and resin, yet they seem to be the only with annual above inflation (usually well above) price rises. Aside from that the actual raw materials are only a small fraction of a typical model's production cost. The reason why GW have increased their prices, again, is because they think that they can get away with it.

sparkywtf wrote:
How about the what seems like monthly increases in raw materials. Would that be relevant? Plastic and resin prices are not set in stone FOREVER. They have been increasing, and resin raw materials have taken a few bumps up in the last 6-8 months for producers, which gets passed on to consumers.

That would be relevant if other miniature companies actually passed those costs to consumers...

Since other miniature companies don't do this, I don't see why GW has to raise their prices (ABOVE the actual costs of those raw materials), to the consumers (while at the same time switching production to a cheaper material no less), but keep it up, I'm sure you'll find a plausible reason for these price increases other than just pure greed eventually.

PhantomViper wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:
Also, I fail to realise what your failure to get a decent miniature supplier has anything to do with yearly, above inflation, miniature price rises... But again I bow to your superior reasoning and debate skills.

I'm not sure how you can fail to realize the fact that Privateer Press cannot maintain a steady level of supply is an issue.
For the past few years, right around the time GW raises prices Privateer Press has a "Summer Sale" of introductory sets.
For the past few years, that then proceeds to wreak havoc on an already overstretched supply chain.

When shops have to go through 2+ suppliers in addition to the company itself to maintain a basic level of stock, there's an issue.

I'm not saying its not an issue, I'm saying that it has absolutely no relevance to a thread discussing GW's yearly, above inflation price rises.

Saying: "yeah, GW increases prices every year above the actual value of inflation, but its OK because I'm having difficulty getting my hands in Warmahordes minis", its a strange way to debate something...

It's really not though when you actually take a moment to think about it, Phantom.

You're a smart guy. You and I might not see eye to eye on things, but we can at least recognize that the idea that the consistent availability and stock management might factor into the price issue.

GW manages to keep not only their own stores stocked, but independent shops and distributors stocked as well.
We don't have people saying "I'm having a hard time finding Tau Fire Warriors" or "Can't find Guardsmen squads, who has them in stock?".

Finecast is another matter entirely, which I'll gladly admit should not be a case of "I keep finding crap casts, when will I get a good one!".

Yay, we needed a Sixth thread on the price increases in this sub-forum alone.

pretre wrote:Yay, we needed a Sixth thread on the price increases in this sub-forum alone.

Reet, first of its a NEWS thread informing people that the raise has occured, which hasn't been addressed in the other threads, therefore its news.

Second, can everybody just take a breath...

geordie09 wrote:

pretre wrote:Yay, we needed a Sixth thread on the price increases in this sub-forum alone.

Reet, first of its a NEWS thread informing people that the raise has occured, which hasn't been addressed in the other threads, therefore its news.

Second, can everybody just take a breath...

It is in dakka discussions, which I think is because it got moved here. And it isn't really news as the increase was confirmed a week ago.

Now back to senseless bickering! (I really don't like the price increases I promise)

Aye, but since it was supposed to happen on Saturday the 2nd and has now occured half way through bank holiday monday its pretty relevant to the thread that is informing people that its happened that its happened...

I give up, I've got a night shift to go to

sparkywtf wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

sparkywtf wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

sparkywtf wrote:

commisar rhodes wrote:Not that many things have rised in price so not to bad but still shame on GW rising prices in this time of economical struggle.

yes shame on GW for doing what pretty much every company has done in the last 4 years, on a rather consistent basis (not just GW)

Except that no other miniature company as done this... But don't let something like facts get in the way of your white knighting...

Yes because miniature companies are the only companies in the world. And at least I can get GW products unlike PP where I am still waiting on kits after months.

Considering that we are in a miniature gaming forum, talking about a miniature gaming company, I would think the price rises of potato plantations in Alaska wouldn't be very relevant to this discussion, apparently I'm wrong...

Also, I fail to realise what your failure to get a decent miniature supplier has anything to do with yearly, above inflation, miniature price rises... But again I bow to your superior reasoning and debate skills.

How about the what seems like monthly increases in raw materials. Would that be relevant? Plastic and resin prices are not set in stone FOREVER. They have been increasing, and resin raw materials have taken a few bumps up in the last 6-8 months for producers, which gets passed on to consumers.

Also, I am not a complete white knight, I know GW is bending us over, I just wish they would use some lube.

Please that is ridicules the cost of plastic is trivial in comparison to the price of a GW kit. GW is gouging customers at their prices...... and I like their miniatures!

geordie09 wrote:

pretre wrote:Yay, we needed a Sixth thread on the price increases in this sub-forum alone.

Reet, first of its a NEWS thread informing people that the raise has occured, which hasn't been addressed in the other threads, therefore its news.

Second, can everybody just take a breath...

It isn't news because everyone knew that it was coming and it was already confirmed multiple times, in multiple threads.

Should I open a thread for each individual country that the price increase also occured in?

Did you ever consider the fact that the webteam does not work on the weekend?

Kanluwen wrote:Did you ever consider the fact that the webteam does not work on the weekend?

That would assume GW cares about their employees!

Kanluwen wrote:Did you ever consider the fact that the webteam does not work on the weekend?

Aye, Its also a double bank holiday for us due to the Queens jubilee, no way GW is paying double time for the web team.

They'll be beack on Wens.

Increase just before the Queen's Diamond Jubilee?!?!?! Is nothing sacred!!! !!!! !!!!

I was in my local GW picking up some paint and saw all the new prices.... one of the guys who worked there told me the reason they have put up the prices is that "The price of Plastic has gone up alot and thats why were are having to raise prices like this". When I mentioned that I'd been in other model shops looking at the PLASTIC WW2 tank kits etc and they haven't changed the prices in years and most contain alot more plastic components in the kits that the GW ones he seemed to get a little tongue-tie and rushed off to "help" a mother and her two young boys...

I mean come on... if thats the "Official" reason for the price increase then I think I will melt all my stuff down into blocks and store them away as in a few years (at GW rate) they'll be worth a fortune and I will be able to retire happy.

Pacific wrote:Increase just before the Queen's Diamond Jubilee?!?!?! Is nothing sacred!!! !!!! !!!!

Hopefully Her Majesty will still be able to afford the three Storm Talons for her Ultramarine Aircav

Kanluwen wrote:
It's really not though when you actually take a moment to think about it, Phantom.

You're a smart guy. You and I might not see eye to eye on things, but we can at least recognize that the idea that the consistent availability and stock management might factor into the price issue.

GW manages to keep not only their own stores stocked, but independent shops and distributors stocked as well.
We don't have people saying "I'm having a hard time finding Tau Fire Warriors" or "Can't find Guardsmen squads, who has them in stock?".

Finecast is another matter entirely, which I'll gladly admit should not be a case of "I keep finding crap casts, when will I get a good one!".

But the two are not related. It isn't PP's lack of price hikes that is causing these logistical issues (but GW's price hikes really should be impacting the search for PP products so maybe they are related that way)...

Trust me, I spent 4 months waiting for eEiryss last year, put up a thread about PP's problems with stock and I will post in there berating them like everyone else, because the official reason for them is getting a bit ridiculous!

£50 for a Stormraven literaly had me choking on my tea. Thank god I've gotten into buying from third-party stores such as Wayland, at least until GW bans them for somehow being harmful to the hobby.